I think that Radio Liberty is running out of fake news to broadcast about the brave Ukrainian forces defending freedom.

Posted by: Chicago Bob | Sep 30 2024 9:48 utc | 1

> Is that a warning to not go overboard with such fake victory announcements?

Perhaps the real story is that Russia has loaded Iranian TELs ready to go?

Posted by: too scents | Sep 30 2024 9:57 utc | 2

Russia against Ukraine would have been one in 3 months.
Russia against a combined West will be one in about 3 years.

That is the difference and that is the reason.

Russia will prevail.
Thank god.!

Posted by: g wiltek | Sep 30 2024 9:57 utc | 3

"one" should have been "won", pardon me.

Posted by: g wiltek | Sep 30 2024 9:58 utc | 4

The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are , basically, the 21st century iteration of Baghdad Bob.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 30 2024 10:11 utc | 5

I reckon it is the pentagon ( who have considerable input) leaning on Radio Liberty cos they're still concerned that the Russian Federation could use this claim (not that they would in fact) as a reason to organise strikes against all the amerikan troops stationed where they have no right to be.

IMO the STAVKA has been even firmer in their promises to the amerikan military about not sticking its syphilitic nose where it just doesn't belong. The corporate media has been told not to play up the circs surrounding the amerikan backdown ten days ago which is why amerikan backtracking seems so desperate.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 30 2024 10:13 utc | 6

Someone has surely gone off script here. Shouldn't the Ukies have checked the date on their copy of the script and seen the date was sometime in October?

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 30 2024 10:15 utc | 7

It signals the abandonment of Ukraine. Fast forward to 2025 when Nobel peace prizes are awarded to some shill in Secretary of State position for a peace accord that throws Ukraine under yet another bus.

Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 30 2024 10:17 utc | 8

Budanov is the jack of jokes (some deadly, some just sad, and probably the main mi6 liaison now that Zaluzhnyi is gone)

We have been discussing lately that maybe the us and airfield one are starting to diverge on what to do with ukraine.

Could this confirm it? Maybe...

I'll add something I had answered on another subject in the last thread as I didn't see this one opening.

The analysis is for kursk, but globally, in the current steady state, AFU will need 5 battalions worth everyday just to cover losses on the global SMO theater. They might be recruiting that per week, so losing 3 or 4 net a week, luckily for them the front line should be shortened soon.

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Posted by: Newbie | Sep 29 2024 20:04 utc | 106

The Kursk adventure! I had prophesied that it would last a month, before moving on to the disintegration of the operation and starting the "great escape". Calculating the combat autonomy of 36 hours per battalion employed, I was not wrong about the resistance time per battalion but about the number of battalions employed by Kiev. It seems that the brigades are 17 plus an indefinite number of battalions collected here and there for which we are still within the expected terms.

automatic translation

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Sep 30 2024 0:27 utc | 148

Ok, let's talk 1.000 men battalion.

Given the size of the front, and assuming a battalion that loses a third of it's force is unable to do more than dig in, I would say that you're being optimistic.

WIth 350 kia per day, one battalion is out of combat, with another 350 permanently injured then another battalion is out of combat, daily, and add to that that during the first weeks (maybe two?) you're also absorbing 700 temporarily out of combat, another two battalions.

SO you'd be talking about degrading 60 battalions in the first 2 weeks and then 15 every forthnight.

Remember you mentioned 17 brigades (almost 70 battalions) and if things haven't changed half as much in sub-brigade units.

Feel free to discuss or correct.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 10:18 utc | 9

"Radio Liberty has released satellite images...."

You mean the CIA spy satellites have shared their images.
Just like their AWAC planes just happen to be in the area whenever Crimea is bombed and civilians targeted.

So why isn't Russia doing something about these satellites?
Is there another Istanbul V2 type betrayal on the cards (see the latest John Helmer article)?

I remember being on these boards during the start of COVID and the amount of group-think at the time was shocking as those who even dared question what they could see with their eyes were threatened for asking questions lol

Shrug.

I can't believe I find myself more and more looking for insights from Medvedv of all people on how to deal with these people who, after they are done with Russia, are coming for everyone else.

Fascinating times

Posted by: Skeletor | Sep 30 2024 10:27 utc | 10

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 10:18 utc | 9

The latest report says AFU has inserted 30 units of brigade and battalion size to Sumy-Kursk since August 5th.

Lets say a brigade is 3-4000 (say 3000 men, or lets call an AFU brigade 2500), and battalion is 400 (lets say AFU battalion 250).

If you give a mix of 25% brigades / 75 % battalions, you will get 18750 people from brigades and 5625 people from the battalions. So you could have a total of 24375 troops invading Sumy-Kursk.

RUAF reports around 14k casualties, so that would leave 10k there. 10k is still enough to more-or-less defend the perimeter, but I think their attacks are over, excluding whatever is ongoing in Glushkovo region. RUAF seems to be poking from SE of Sudzha, and NE of Sudzha, they can just shift the offensive where the AFU ain't, according to where AFU internally reinforces their bridgehead.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 30 2024 10:30 utc | 11

Backwards World. Russia took out an entire Ukr train filled with weaponry.

https://x.com/squatsons/status/1840675773314662555

Posted by: Mary | Sep 30 2024 10:45 utc | 12

Posted by: Skeletor | Sep 30 2024 10:27 utc | 10

Can't say I don't empathize. Maybe Russia could find an excuse to 'accidentally' take out a whole illegal occupation base in Syria or Africa far from any "Article 5" bullshit constraint scenarios. One wonders why they haven't already. Kind of gives credenza to joint Khazarian mafia control of both sides.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 30 2024 11:02 utc | 13

*credence

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 30 2024 11:03 utc | 14

I think this is due to the election. The two candidates are on opposing sides about actions about Ukraine.

If the state-driven internal propaganda continues, then it supports one of the candidates directly and that is a problem.

Posted by: alek_a | Sep 30 2024 11:12 utc | 15

It says above that the train was struck while unloading.
That appears to be totally at odds with what you can see.
For me it looks like infrared capture of a moving train. All the hot areas show up like black.
With a bit of luck, the rails might be damaged for a long section as well.

Posted by: g wiltek | Sep 30 2024 11:19 utc | 16

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 30 2024 11:02 utc | 13

Will never happen.
Same reason as Syria S300 (or S200) never down a zionist entity plane, despite their range covering most of Palestine. All the while being bombed by Zio most everyday and taking military and civilian casualties ...
Zio planes seem to be AD immune.
Same reason why Russia didnt shoot down any zio plane even when they ambushed a russian air transport carrying dozen of their militay ...

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Sep 30 2024 11:28 utc | 17

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 10:18 utc | 9

The latest report says AFU has inserted 30 units of brigade and battalion size to Sumy-Kursk since August 5th.

Lets say a brigade is 3-4000 (say 3000 men, or lets call an AFU brigade 2500), and battalion is 400 (lets say AFU battalion 250).

If you give a mix of 25% brigades / 75 % battalions, you will get 18750 people from brigades and 5625 people from the battalions. So you could have a total of 24375 troops invading Sumy-Kursk.

RUAF reports around 14k casualties, so that would leave 10k there. 10k is still enough to more-or-less defend the perimeter, but I think their attacks are over, excluding whatever is ongoing in Glushkovo region. RUAF seems to be poking from SE of Sudzha, and NE of Sudzha, they can just shift the offensive where the AFU ain't, according to where AFU internally reinforces their bridgehead.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 30 2024 10:30 utc | 11

Sorry, but "since fighting began in the Kursk Region, the enemy has lost over 18,560 servicemen"

18.500 "destroyed", I have a coherent model for "destroyed" being KIA in the all SMO.

For each KIA you get another permanently WIA, so another 18.500 out of combat for good. So 37.000 down. (already 50% above your inserted)

And for each gravely wounded you get 4 lightly wounded, 74.000, but let's assume only one in 4 still mending, another 18.500. We're at 55.000 out of combat.

Now remember that above 30% casualties a unit is highly degraded so ...

What I'm saying is kursk is by now almost a full SMO in size, and as RF at the end of two month's barely holding until Putin called the partial mobilization to hold what was possible.

BTW, as last year Putin just called the 130.000 conscripts for the fall levée, not for the SMO per se, but building up a confirmed and first level trained future pool for any mobilization needs. He's been doing 150k+130k per year, 280.000. And almost as many in contract (though there is an overlap between previous conscripts and new volunteers). While the us get what? 55.000 army, 35.000 navy, 30.000 airforce? 120.000, certainly less than half of RF?

And don't count on europe to make up for the difference.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 11:28 utc | 18

thanks b..

there is good propaganda and bad propaganda, lol.. this is bad propaganda.. don’t expect reuters, ap and etc etc to make a story out of it!

Posted by: james | Sep 30 2024 11:41 utc | 19

BTW, as last year Putin just called the 130.000 conscripts for the fall levée, not for the SMO per se

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 11:28 utc | 18

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I'm not following your numbers

Sept 16 (Reuters) -

President Vladimir Putin on Monday ordered the regular size of the Russian army to be increased by 180,000 troops to 1.5 million active servicemen in a move that would make it the second largest in the world after China's.

In a decree published on the Kremlin's website, Putin ordered the overall size of the armed forces to be increased to 2.38 million people, of which he said 1.5 million should be active servicemen.

ref ==> https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-orders-russian-army-grow-by-180000-soldiers-become-15-million-strong-2024-09-16/

I'm sure you understand better than I do, but my reading is that Russia has increased its deployment by approximately Ukraine's total size.

Or otherwise said, Russia is increasing their force by more than the 130k callup you mention.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 30 2024 11:51 utc | 20

g wiltek @16

Indeed, the train is moving.

So:

1. The Iskander hit the train while it was en route.
2. The train engineer had the engine idling while it was being unloaded and put the coals to it after the strike to get away from all the crazy secondary blasts. The portion of the consist that remained attached to the engine followed along, exploding all the way, while the rest of the consist had been detached by the Iskander.

At least the detonations on the moving part of the train were smaller, so maybe the engineer survived.

It's a kick-ass amazing ballistic missile that can hit a moving train though.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 30 2024 11:58 utc | 21

Stepan Bandera was on Radio Liberty payroll.
Russians are forced to take down the ammo trains cause the Banderist have nothing to put in ammo dumps. Russians ones seems to be overflowing a bit : not enough targets for those ammo anymore. I wonder where could it be put on good use ? Afrin pocket maybe ?

Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 30 2024 12:03 utc | 22

I'm sure you understand better than I do, but my reading is that Russia has increased its deployment by approximately Ukraine's total size.

Or otherwise said, Russia is increasing their force by more than the 130k callup you mention.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 30 2024 11:51 utc | 20

RF is increasing its CONTRACT ARMY, recruiting almos 30.000 per month, netting increases above 200.000 per year (as you mentioned)

Besides, there is the twice a year levée of conscripts, they don't fight the SMO but get basic training and some later volunteer or become a reserve for later mobilizations. That's the kids doing mandatory military service, 133.000 in the fall (same as last year), 150.000 in the spring.

That's the basis that in a decade of that might allow the RF to call more than 2 million young men who already had their basic drill and a modicum of military experience. That above and beyond the contract professional army.

Clear now?

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 12:09 utc | 23

Posted by: too scents | Sep 30 2024 11:51 utc | 20

The increase of army size has little to do with Ukraine and it has very little correlation with replacing losses. If it were about replacing losses, total size wouldn't be raised.

However it has indirectly to do with Ukraine, since a proportion of the army is in Ukraine, they increase total size of armed forces IN CASE Nato fringe states decide to commit suicide, like their leaders have so far implied they are planning to do. The increased size will complement new mil districts, like the Leningrad one.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 30 2024 12:12 utc | 24

Debsisdead @6: "...the pentagon ( who have considerable input) leaning on Radio Liberty...

Radio Liberty is CIA/State Department. The military does not have very much leverage over them. The leverage works the other way `round, in fact.

1. The US military = Peter AU1's "realist" faction in the US state.
2. CIA/State Dept = Deeply delusional and bat-shit insane. Believe their own disinfo/eat their own shit.

Which leaves us the question of why the CIA psychos would be kneecapping Ukroid propaganda. Is the "realist" faction, after a solid decade of monumental fuck-ups by the "delusionalist" faction (that's the one that has continuously been in power despite the Trump win in 2016) starting to rally enough non-brain-fucked people in the Establishment to start putting the kibosh on the lunacy? A desperate effort to save what remains of the Empire while something salvageable is still left?

Probably not. There are simply not that many intelligent and non-delusional people left in the imperial Establishment. Perhaps the crazies think they can wind the war down before the elections? They are delusional, after all.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 30 2024 12:28 utc | 25

William Gruff.
It is not too hard to hit a moving train.
The train is maybe 2km long. The track is fixed and the train must stay on it.
A fully loaded train takes minutes to come to a stop or to speed up.
Once leaving a station, there is little reason to change speed until slowing down to the next station, which could be over an hour away.
Simple algebra to target a point on the track and meet the train when it gets there.
A train with even 50 percent explosives makes any 1 car a good hit, give the explosive radius of the missile.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Sep 30 2024 12:31 utc | 26

However it has indirectly to do with Ukraine, since a proportion of the army is in Ukraine, they increase total size of armed forces IN CASE Nato fringe states decide to commit suicide, like their leaders have so far implied they are planning to do. The increased size will complement new mil districts, like the Leningrad one.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 30 2024 12:12 utc | 24

Exactly, the main point was to reach parity an build reserves (increase of contract army) in case of nato going full retard.

Also same issue for the conscripts, adding 280.000 a year , of trained conscripts to a pool that can be mobilized and used right away the full retard is even fuller. Making a serviceable soldier can take 6 months to a year, reactivating an ex conscript is trivial and having a million or two at hand makes RF impervious to any standing army.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 12:36 utc | 27

Fake victory announcements or not, is there any doubt that these long range strike missions into Russia would not be possible without America’s multi billion dollar C4-ISR targeting systems? Then, there are also American made weapons and American supplied advisor/technicians to add into the mix.

Bottom line: Killing Russians on Russian soil, regardless of whether by proxy or directly, never seemed like an especially bright American foreign policy endeavor. In fact, it seems downright dangerous to those of us who living in the US.

What are Washington’s neocons and globalists thinking right now? Do they really think killing a Russian citizen living deep inside Russia is the same as scratching some no name Afghani goat herder or a random part time Somali pirate? D*MN!

Posted by: Packard | Sep 30 2024 12:40 utc | 28

"the Banderist have nothing to put in ammo dumps. Russians ones seems to be overflowing a bit : not enough targets for those ammo anymore. I wonder where could it be put on good use ? Afrin pocket maybe ?
Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 30 2024 12:03 utc | 22"

I saw on twitter a few days ago that a Russian ship full of weaponry was spotted in a port. Iirc Iran, but definitely ME.

Posted by: Mary | Sep 30 2024 12:42 utc | 29

Probably not. There are simply not that many intelligent and non-delusional people left in the imperial Establishment. Perhaps the crazies think they can wind the war down before the elections? They are delusional, after all.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 30 2024 12:28 utc | 25

I think that (recent recruitment errors aside) CIA (and their little old mother mi6) do abuse from time to time on schrooms , but state (and uk politicians) live on a constant diet of shrooms, the turds they grow on, a copious amount of Cristal or don perignon to throw it down the hatch and an insane amount of Colombia’s finest (and I don’t mean coffee ) to keep going on a daily basis.

But that has gone for too long and everybody’s getting a mason family vibe.

Even the regular dope-heads are probably getting scared of the insanity level and probably asked the squares to make an intervention .

One can hope the grownups win…

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 12:47 utc | 30

https://t.me/ramzayiegokomanda/17661

Forwarded from ZIMOVSKY (Alex Zimovsky)

About Kursk.

The eighth week of the Kursk operation is ending.

The progress of squeezing out is moderate for us.

For Ukraine, the status quo remains at approximately 85% of the maximum advancement achieved in the first stage of the operation.

However, this required a significant overextension of forces from the Ukrainian Armed Forces. To date, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have committed more than thirty infantry , tank, artillery, sapper, UAV, and rear/engineering/logistics units to the Kursk operation.

Accordingly, the logistical load has increased. Today, 11 entry points into the Kursk operation zone have been opened to replenish the Ukrainian Siversk group . Six of them are located on those sections of the Russian-Ukrainian border that are fully controlled by the khokhols* ( Wolfino - Politodelsky and Zhuravka - Mogritsa ). Five entry points on the section of the state border between Politodelsky and Zhuravka are in a no-man's land, where the opponents do not have a stable presence. These points (11) provide all possible land options for organizing the supply/evacuation of the forces of the Siversk group: - transportation of heavy equipment by lowboys and on their own; - movement of armored fighting vehicles and medium-tonnage vehicles on paved and dirt highways; - movement of light trucks/semi-trucks/horse-drawn vehicles on field, forest, and country roads; - movement of foot reinforcements and delivery of cargo "on the back" on field, forest, and country roads.

In such conditions, the organization of our full-fledged cauldron cannot yet be realized, and our troops have not been given a task of this kind.

Instead of chasing the foot caravans and separate motorized supply vehicles of the khokhols, the Russian command made the best decision for today - to hit the reserves and reinforcements of the Chubatants at the moment of their clustering in the places of organization and assembly of the khokhols' mobile logistic groups.

Such tactics justify themselves. And if the squeezing out drags on until winter, the khokhols will also experience severe difficulties with camouflage in the conditions of exposed foliage and heavy black earth autumn slush. When only roads with hard surfaces will remain open for movement.

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Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 30 2024 12:53 utc | 31

How long before the Russians attacked (install atrocity of your choice) before the US elections?
Something nasty is on the way!

Posted by: jpc | Sep 30 2024 12:53 utc | 32

*credence

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 30 2024 11:03 utc | 14

>>>>

*Creedence :D

Posted by: John S | Sep 30 2024 12:59 utc | 33

@anon2020 31

Thanks, good information to help understand what's going on.

So it sounds like Russia's strategy is to wait for General Winter to finish off the Kursk misadventure. I can't argue with that, I guess. It's a typical risk-averse move that minimizes casualties on the RF side. And once the leaves are off the trees, as they will be soon, picking off stragglers trying to re-supply on foot will be easier.

Still, I can't help but wonder why a more aggressive tactic isn't taken. 11 supply lines isn't that many - surely enough troops are available to be air-dropped in and blend in the forest while the foliage is still up. Then do guerilla-style hits on any UAF forces trying to enter Kursk. Obviously it would be higher risk but also higher reward.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 30 2024 13:00 utc | 34

I just learned Kris Kristofferson died yesterday. Pour one out for a troubadour and a great man

Posted by: Scottindallas | Sep 30 2024 13:01 utc | 35

A real "tell" for the US starting to back away from project Ukraine would be if fake news outlets like Forbes, Business Insider, and Newsweek stop appearing in news feeds with articles simply regurgitating Ukrainian Pravda, and suddenly start reporting on small-cap stocks, the Fed's interest rate policy, and the latest statistics on GDP growth.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 30 2024 13:06 utc | 36

"I just learned Kris Kristofferson died yesterday"

Good fucking riddance to a despicable pos. He took part in that gawdawful movie in which, for the viewers "entertainment," explosives were strapped to horses' bellies & they were blown up. For your entertainment. 🤮🤮🤮

The only good thing was that one of the stunt murderers was blown up with his poor, trusting horse.

Posted by: Mary | Sep 30 2024 13:10 utc | 37

Posted by: John S | Sep 30 2024 12:59 utc | 33
Creedence :D

Clearwater Revival?

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 30 2024 13:23 utc | 38

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 30 2024 13:00 utc | 34
"Still, I can't help but wonder why a more aggressive tactic isn't taken."

I'd guess that Russia wants to keep the Ukrainian supply lines feeding into Kursk so the RAF can make decent gains in Donbass before winter sets in. Ukraine has limited supply, and keeping it flowing into Kursk seems like a safer bet than allowing reinforcements to shore up the defense lines in Donbass.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 30 2024 13:32 utc | 39

Israel is whooping azz and USA is ready to jump in if iran gets froggy!

The Allies are committed to each other and ready for whatever—and their haters can’t stand it!

Keep crying, MOAners!

Posted by: UiSrAel | Sep 30 2024 13:58 utc | 40

#раскладка The President's office leaked yesterday that they had gotten into warehouses near Volgograd. As we knew, the sowing was massive. Everyone was sent and even paid for posting the material. Even the head of the center for combating disinformation, the funniest thing is, he himself threw in disinformation/disinformation.

According to our data, such activity is connected with the fact that there is almost a cauldron in Ugledar and it was necessary to shift the information focus.
There is also a purge of officers who started to rebel. The 72nd was fired for this very reason . Although he didn't say it directly, everyone understood.

https://t.me/legitimniy/18780

This canard apparently is a PR diversion targeting a local audience.

Posted by: Richard L | Sep 30 2024 14:16 utc | 41

Lets say a brigade is 3-4000 (say 3000 men, or lets call an AFU brigade 2500), and battalion is 400 (lets say AFU battalion 250).
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Where do you get these numbers from?

Ukrainian troops and troop strengths are based on the Russian model!

Ergo,

A battalion combat group has a target strength of 700-800 soldiers and officers, but can be reinforced to up to 900 men. In the classic sense, it corresponds to a reinforced battalion.

A Russian brigade consists of UP TO 3 BTGs, i.e. up to around 2500 men.

Each company has an armored personnel carrier and tanks, as well as engineer units + supplies and company staff. Each BTG therefore has 3 companies of 3 tanks, 3 armored personnel carriers, 3 engineers, etc. In wartime and assuming there is enough personnel, a company can be up to 160 men strong... during maneuvers in Hungary in 1983, my company had a total of 156 men.

Always assuming Ukrainian troops are STILL positioned like this, BUT given the losses they probably don't have 50% of their personnel strength..MAXIMUM
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Posted by: ossi | Sep 30 2024 14:25 utc | 42

A strange one indeed.

I'm very surprised that the CIA linked Radio Liberty debunked the strike - many citizens of Western nations would've believed it, to have been a successful strike - so why shoot down your own propaganda? Afterall, Zelensky needs all the positive propaganda he can get.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 30 2024 14:27 utc | 43

Addendum on personnel strength:
In times of war, the personnel strength of the Russian troops is increased by up to 25%.
A battalion can then consist of up to 1,400 men with up to 90 tanks. At least that is what we were taught in 1978 at the officers' school in Moscow as guest students of the NVA.

Posted by: ossi | Sep 30 2024 14:32 utc | 44

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 30 2024 14:09 utc | 41

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Whining, jargon-ridden and repetitive. A typical sofa-strategos or psyop. We've been hearing this shit for two years.

I was particularly amused by the bit about the "front collapsing". Considering current events.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 30 2024 14:38 utc | 45

Seems like someone has been roped in and took a beating.

The General Staff of Ukraine is, well, just that, the General Staff of a collective personality disorder.

Radio Liberty is, well, CIA, or so conventional wisdom has it.

Seems like the Pentagon aren't the only ones hindering the Ukraine project from acts deemed just too aggressive.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Sep 30 2024 14:53 utc | 46

The people who thought the Ukraine Fake War was a good idea (Vicki Nuland et al) are shooting themselves in both feet with the apallingly biased and dishonest coverage in the (((Western Media))).

There are plenty of videos with Zero geographical context which could have been filmed anywhere on the planet. And Zelenski's Crisis Actor pals whining and bullshitting about Russia war crimes.

But the factor that kills the narrative for me is the complete absence of a Russian point of view on any and all accusations. Imo the people who organised this SNAFU always intended that Ukraine would lose, and lose badly.

The only explanation I can think of is that Vicki and her pals found all of the sane Ukrainians and paid them $5 Billion to buzz off.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 30 2024 15:07 utc | 47

anon2020@1409

Many of us simply cannot waste the time in wading through such a word-salad. When posting here, the wiser option would be to consolidate the message into a few not too large paragraphs. Only graduate students working for their PHD's have the inclination to maneuver through such a morass.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 30 2024 15:07 utc | 48

Russia continues to roll westward after surrounding Ugledar as the poor sots who defended it don't have the means to stop the advance. And as well, there are many more gains along the front. Once defensive lines get broken in this manner and begin reeling backwards, it gets much harder to stop the retreat, build a new defensive line and hold it, which is what we're seeing. I still expect action to begin anew on the southern portion of the front. And then there's news that the FABs will have their range extended to 100km from the current 40.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 30 2024 15:11 utc | 49

I was particularly amused by the bit about the "front collapsing". Considering current events.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 30 2024 14:38 utc | 46

Someone should tell the responsible persons who authored that screed that the first rule of propaganda is it has to sound plausible. Collapsing Russian front is just absolutely laugh out loud territory. Meanwhile, in Kursk, a greatly reduced force mostly cowers and sometimes gets mass murdered while they anxiously watch the leaves turn.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 30 2024 15:15 utc | 50

Newbie@1747

Discerning individuals are cautious and sparing in their use of psychedelic elements. As the Di$trict of Corruption wallows in a scene of cultural insanity; people who dwell daily in such a morass do all they can to cope with the madness. The white powder is not psychedelic. People who regularly imbibe feel needful for a boost and seek to party-on. That can devolve into insanity on steroids.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 30 2024 15:17 utc | 51

karlof!@1511

The AFU are down to their last remaining redoubts. The collapse of one or more of those vectors will open the front, veering from readily defendable built-up agglomerations in the hilly and wooded portions of the Donbass region.

Beyond those tottering bastions loom open steppe lands, which are intensely vulnerable to rapid large-arrow attacks against tattered remnants of a defeated army which has lost all capability to establish defense in depth.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 30 2024 15:23 utc | 52

So of what were those videos of massive explosions?

Posted by: horseguards | Sep 30 2024 15:24 utc | 53

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 30 2024 14:38 utc | 46

There’s no merit in taking an uncritical set against that stuff, nor against that particular author, reality won’t back you up.

Insight into serious problems is found in increasingly extravagant sign-on and injury payments for contact soldiers, the fact of the widespread transfer of specialist troops, from seemingly all branches of the Russian military, even UAV / drone specialists, to perish in frontline infantry units, and a telling reticence in senior command to address the growing typicality of these detrimental factors.

These are realities now, as was the Kharkiv / Izyum collapse at the time, the Kursk breakthrough was itself a minor collapse. Time will tell if @philologist_zov has overstated the scale of the problems and risks, the type of corrective actions taken and observed battlefield outcomes will make it clear.

He is almost certainly correct that the general situation with the level and quality of military personnel is far more perilous than the sofa-strategos or psyop view regularly expressed here and elsewhere.

Most here don’t have any excuse for not learning from previous upsets and setbacks that would have been predictable if a little more scepticism had been practiced on their part.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 30 2024 15:26 utc | 54

Ossi....appreciate you adding real information and experience to the blog .

Posted by: Jo | Sep 30 2024 15:28 utc | 55

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 30 2024 15:07 utc | 49

I hardly ever make comparably large post but the links formed a whole piece and balance what was otherwise becoming a quite inane account of the situation with RF military personnel.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 30 2024 15:37 utc | 56

He is almost certainly correct that the general situation with the level and quality of military personnel is far more perilous

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 30 2024 15:26 utc | 55

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The whole screed seems nothing more than focusing on the worst performing tail of a statistical distribution.

The SMO is a huge sample set. A fair analysis would determine the mean and median expectations and not showcase the tails.

Unlikely events will occur given a big enough sample size. Harping on them is propaganda.

Also, there will always be 50% that under performs. That is where the easiest improvements are.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 30 2024 15:44 utc | 57

I'm very surprised that the CIA linked Radio Liberty debunked the strike - many citizens of Western nations would've believed it, to have been a successful strike - so why shoot down your own propaganda? ***

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 30 2024 14:27 utc | 44

There are always competing factions within an organization of beaurocracy. I have proposed that a DOD faction that realistically perceives the otg situation and is more committed to realpolitic has come into the ascendancy. The signal came on September 3 when Victoria Nuland, and inner circle member of the War Vampire coven, publicly admitted that the Dept of State played a central role in the rejection of the Istanbul accords.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 30 2024 15:52 utc | 58

Because Iran isn't helping hezbollah there's no need to tie Iranian missles to Russia. It may be that ukraine though the US was helping to strike those missles or whatever was in the arsenal but at the last minute changed its policy confusing the Ukrainians.

Big changes are afoot before the US elections. A Trump victory means the US plan for world domination will be put on hold, and probably Trump will win, depending on election integrity.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Sep 30 2024 15:57 utc | 59

One can hope the grownups win…

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 12:47 utc | 30

It seems to me that in times of crisis- and the US is undoubtedly in crisis- it's never the 'grown ups' that win.

Posted by: Honzo | Sep 30 2024 15:57 utc | 60

@horseguards #54

There was a strike on an ammo depot NW of Moscow that Russian media reported on. The disputed event is SE of Moscow.

Posted by: ockham | Sep 30 2024 16:00 utc | 61

aristodemos | Sep 30 2024 15:23 utc | 53--

Yes, the line of small mining towns and somewhat larger regional centers are quickly being taken and beyond them lie mostly open country, although a few large urban centers do remain. With Ukie AD mostly defeated, Russia's version of the Reaper drone is now being used very effectively. NATO keeps feeding the Kursk grinder, while the Ukie political structure eats itself. And the Austrian elections have brought another Pro-peace/Anti-Ukraine support party to the fore. Regardless the spin, it appears a majority of Europeans no longer support the NATO/Outlaw US Empire Ukraine gambit.

And one other note. In his latest video on Sunday, Martyanov correctly called Russia's revamping of its nuclear doctrine the removal of the proxy aspect of the conflict--NATO can no longer hide behind Ukrainian skirts as any NATO assisted attack will be deemed a joint attack on Russia which allows Russia the right to retaliate against NATO. The change awaits formal approval by Russia's legislature, which will likely occur this week. Once done, Russian retaliation from its legal POV will be okay. Where that will lead is unknown, but the Aegis Ashore complexes in Poland and Yugoslavia would be primary retaliation targets.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 30 2024 16:02 utc | 62

Newbie@1747

Discerning individuals are cautious and sparing in their use of psychedelic elements. As the Di$trict of Corruption wallows in a scene of cultural insanity; people who dwell daily in such a morass do all they can to cope with the madness. The white powder is not psychedelic. People who regularly imbibe feel needful for a boost and seek to party-on. That can devolve into insanity on steroids.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 30 2024 15:17 utc | 52

My point exactly, state/government has gone the way of any crazy homicide/suicide junky cult.

Assuming/hoping intelligence still has some (and expect military who has to fight the wars others dream
up must retain some)...

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 16:25 utc | 63

Thank you b.
Perfectly apt.

Given how regularly Russia treats Ukraine with a bloody nose, even though the USA learns slowly, it is certain that it will not allow Ukraine to brag too much.
Next in line-up is NATO, but how painful will that be for them?

I lack the intellectual energy now to go deeply, but I think that only if Iran, Russia, and China act kinetically in sync and at the same time will they be able to effectively kick the Judeo-West in the teeth. I think that Iran received a nuclear weapon from Russia, sufficient to scare away Israel and a few measly US bases and a marine junk floating about.

One more calculation gone awry: Putin was correct all along—nothing has started yet.

China has promised to defend Iran with its nuclear shield. The USA is aware of this because of China's guarantee to the Iranians is written in stone. Because China needs a good ally for the Indian issue. As for Israelis - they are gone forever.
If not physically, certainly in hearts and minds, and for a very long time. I am not sure if the previous thought needs "if", but they might still get away from it for a short period of time.
Nobody can predict what happens next and how it ends.So many universes.

eof

Posted by: whirlX | Sep 30 2024 16:51 utc | 64

Newbie

“The analysis is for kursk, but globally, in the current steady state, AFU will need 5 battalions worth everyday just to cover losses on the global SMO theater. They might be recruiting that per week, so losing 3 or 4 net a week, luckily for them the front line should be shortened soon.”

Ukrainians are fighting effectively in a couple of places, making a new mini Kursk incursion just west of the main one. Also repelling a big Russian attack towards the Oskol just south of Kupyansk.

My guess is that the elite forces they have been keeping in reserve are now being committed since they have no alternative. The cannon fodder has mostly been eaten already. The 72nd of course is doing a Mariupol in Vugledar.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Sep 30 2024 16:52 utc | 65

Posted by: ockham | Sep 30 2024 16:00 utc | 62

Thanks for the clarification.

Posted by: horseguards | Sep 30 2024 17:09 utc | 66

The planned change in Russian nuclear doctrine was a smash hit, the USA now obviously wants to stay out of the way and has seemingly shifted into reverse gear.

Posted by: xblob | Sep 30 2024 17:09 utc | 67

Doctor Eleven | Sep 30 2024 15:15 utc | 51

"Meanwhile, in Kursk, a greatly reduced force mostly cowers and sometimes gets mass murdered while they anxiously watch the leaves turn."

And yet they're still there, two months after y'all said so smugly they'd be obliterated in two days.

Much like the two days in Kharkov are now more than two years.

Minsk III comin' up! Before the election!

Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 30 2024 17:19 utc | 68

DS Map intel dropped at ~1600 CET today. Seems strange the timing lately. Used to always be ~midnight CET. But after a 36 hour shift (i.e. sort of missing one day), they are doing ~1700 drops now.

In general, there is little shift of the lines during the night. So, I always assumed DS were consolidating a day of info and doing the drops at midnight CET, so just a few hours later. Yes, issues at times with certain areas of cope and the gray zone and all that. But still, fairly responsive time cycle, only a few hours old. But now, it's almost a day out of date.

Also worked out well, in terms of the timing of the 1300 CET Willy video analysis (of competing maps, but highly reliant on DS as the base). Giving him time to parse the info and compare versus Suriyak, Noel, etc. or even individual geolocations. But now, a Willy video is looking at info that is a day and a half old.

I'm not sure what the reason is for the change. I suspect it has to do with giving the government censors more time and or control on the map changes. But of course, not only is this the thumb on the scale, it's a later thumb!

Oh well. Still very well done product, at least technically. And still what everyone else refers to. Even the pro RFA side. (Which can have some crazy exaggerations/guesses, just look at "first, first" BROSINT Ayden/Kali.)

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 30 2024 17:28 utc | 69

g wiltek | Sep 30 2024 11:19 utc | 16

Looks to be stationary when first hit. It must have pulled out from the station after being struck. Looks like once it started moving, the fire may have spread to the wagons behind. In any case, after a bit, a lot of wagons behind the one struck derailed after some time then some began exploding.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 30 2024 17:28 utc | 70

DS update:

https://deepstatemap.live/en#12/48.0465295/37.4383163

Several small changes, all to RFA benefit. Nothing huge in terms of strategy or area, but still better than last couple days. Call it a "medium" day.

In order S to N:

1. Vuhledar: small (but difficult and deliberate, probably) further move into SE of city. the finger of gray inside the town changed to red. And gray moved as well.

2. SW of Vodiane: Several fields as well as another (NW of main) slag heap of a mine to NE of Vuhle. Doesn't "close the ring" as "first, first" Ayden ambitiously drew. But certainly increases the depth of the pocket, by bending in the flank to the NE of Vuhle.

3. E of Marynivka: Small increase of fields to E of Marynivka. Not surrounding Selydove from the N, yet, but starting to bend in towards that, at least.

4. E of Novohro: (linked to change (3)). Small, but long increase in fields to the E of Novohro. Does not immediately connect to any strategic implication (to N, E, or S).

5. Toretsk: Very small change of gray to red in the central salient penetrating the town. Pretty small, but at least progress, in a difficult area.

(Note, DS still does not show the extent of progress in NY/Neli/Leonidvka which other mappers show. Feels a little like he is holding back on that...to not even show gray.)

6. Nevske: Very small increase in the salient. Widens flank to the SE, making it slightly safer. Starts another, doglegged, branching salient towards the N, starting to try to close the MAkiivka salient.

7. Pischane: Very small braching salient off the main salient, heading down a treeline to the S.

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 30 2024 17:45 utc | 71

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/77900

Ours broke through from the west to Vuhledar, knocked the Armed Forces of Ukraine out of high-rise buildings and hoisted the flag of Russia!

▪️While all the attention of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was focused on our attacks in the eastern part of Vuhledar, the soldiers of the 5th Guards Tank Regiment and the 430th Motorized Rifle Regiment, with the support of other units of the Vostok group, occupied the western outskirts of Vuhledar with a rapid breakthrough.

▪️The enemy could not oppose this maneuver and our fighters broke into high-rise buildings in the western part of the city.

▪️The improvement of positions in the eastern part of Vuhledar also continues. The city has not yet been liberated, but its fate is unequivocally predetermined.

Posted by: guest | Sep 30 2024 17:46 utc | 72

This canard apparently is a PR diversion targeting a local audience.

Posted by: Richard L | Sep 30 2024 14:16 utc | 42

###########

As well as the resident Doomers and trolls (can anyone tell them apart at this point?) on MoA.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 30 2024 17:56 utc | 73

but its fate is unequivocally predetermined.

Posted by: guest | Sep 30 2024 17:46 utc | 77

#########

That can be said about all of Ukraine (and soon, Israel).

but its fate is unequivocally predetermined.

but its fate is unequivocally predetermined.

but its fate is unequivocally predetermined.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 30 2024 17:58 utc | 74

I summoned Orwell from the grave and he doesn't see any problem with any of this.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 30 2024 18:38 utc | 75

"but its fate is unequivocally predetermined."

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 30 2024 17:58 utc | 74

You can equally make the argument that fate is just another one of those things that is too complex to calculate.

In this context numbers that are infinite are described as nearly being too big to count.

So it implies that determinism exists but being animals we operate by perceiving emergent properties. This applies to physics as well.

Model that! I say.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 30 2024 18:43 utc | 76

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 30 2024 17:28 utc | 69
Thanks for the info and analysis.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 30 2024 18:50 utc | 77

"And the Austrian elections have brought another Pro-peace/Anti-Ukraine support party to the fore. Regardless the spin, it appears a majority of Europeans no longer support the NATO/Outlaw US Empire Ukraine gambit."

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 30 2024 16:02 utc | 62

It's interesting eh. People like the Duran have been predicting this from the beginning of the war. They are still able to make coalitions to keep the peace factions out of power but the tide is turning. As the European economies go into recession this will increase.

My concern is that this implies we will still have these extremists warmongering in the Ukraine for two more years at least.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 30 2024 18:56 utc | 78

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 30 2024 15:26 utc | 54

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I'll discount it in its totality, thank you very much. Because technical specialists aren't being used as line infantry. "Meat-wave" style that's Ukr/NATO propaganda.

Extravagant payments is also a meme, at this point. It's funny that a Russia which is so screwed & callous with its miserable subjects can be so generous in its payoffs for service. The contradictions, of human nature eh.

More seriously. The AFU doesn't throw away specialists like that very often. Unless the unit in question is already screwed and their overall manpower situation is objectively far more dire. Irreversibly so.

The Kharkov issue was due to a small initial RF intervention/peace time force & overreliance on Donbass militas, two years ago mind you.

Kursk was a raid against a thinly held border region, which bogged down into an AFU bloodbath, which even thier patrons think was a stupid idea.

So calling it collapse is clearly in bad faith.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 30 2024 18:58 utc | 79

Posted by: Mary | Sep 30 2024 13:10 utc | 37

"They’re killing babies in the name of Freedom
We’ve been down that sorry road before
They let us hang around a little longer than they should have
And it’s too late to fool us anymore

We’ve seen the ones who killed the ones with vision
Cold-blooded murder right before your eyes
Today they hold the power and the money and the guns
It’s getting hard to listen to their lies

And I’ve just got to wonder what my Daddy would’ve done
If he’d seen the way they turned his dream around
I’ve got to go by what he told me, try to tell the truth
And stand your ground
Don’t Let the Bastards Get You Down

Mining roads
Killing farmers
Burning down schools full of children
Fighting communism"

And Kris was the leading actor in the greatest US movie of the greatest American epoch of filmmaking (the 1970s), the truly marxist HEAVENS GATE.

Posted by: Ulf Persson | Sep 30 2024 19:15 utc | 80

O/T.

Nato’s Lord Haw Haw – Jens Stoltenberg, stands down today as its propaganda mouthpiece – he will be replaced tomorrow with ex- Dutch PM Mark Rutte – its a like for like replacement.

Stoltenberg – a former Norwegian PM – became the warmongering clubs (Nato) mouthpiece (Secretary General) in 2014, replacing the Dane – Anders Fogh Rasmussen – who is now (unsurprisingly) a lobbyist for Ukraine.

People like Stoltenberg, Rassmussen and Rutte – never leave the establishment – they just get moved to other gatekeeping positions – within the corrupt system.

A wee bit more on the man - if you can stomach it - he's a Geert Wilders protege.

https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Mark_Rutte

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 30 2024 19:20 utc | 81

Kursk:

During the day, the losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to more than 350 military personnel, eight armored vehicles, including an infantry fighting vehicle, an armored personnel carrier and six armored combat vehicles, as well as four artillery pieces, the Tunguska anti-aircraft cannon and missile defense system, the Israeli Rada air defense radar station, the M-88 armored repair and evacuation vehicle and 12 cars.

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk direction, the enemy lost more than 18,900 troops, 133 tanks, 65 infantry fighting vehicles, 98 armored personnel carriers, 856 armored combat vehicles, 562 vehicles, 150 artillery pieces, 33 multiple rocket launchers, including eight HIMARS and six MLRS manufactured by the United States, nine anti-aircraft launchers missile systems, five transport-loading vehicles, 38 electronic warfare stations, nine counter-battery radars, three air defense radars, 19 units of engineering and other equipment, of which 11 engineering barrier vehicles, one UR-77 mine clearance unit, as well as two armored recovery vehicles.

Posted by: guest | Sep 30 2024 19:41 utc | 82

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 30 2024 15:17 utc | 51

Agreed. Had they bin zoomin there's a good chance none of this happens.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 30 2024 19:42 utc | 83

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 30 2024 12:28 utc | 25

It seems that there is no genuine "realist" faction per se in the ruling circles of the Anglo-American empire, one that might be responsible for the exposure of the crettinous propaganda antics of the Maidanist regime. It is just that there is an accute comprehension of the importance of appearances. After the early propaganda tricks were exposed to the detriment of the imperialist narrative, they are more careful to create elaborate and believable scenarios or "realities" as Karl Rove put it.

This was alomst certainly the cause for the dismissal of Denisova by the Verkhovna Rada, as her relentless promotion of utterly outlandish stories of Russian rapes were eventually harmful to the messaging of the Ukro-fascist regime.

It should be noted that realism was also part of Obama's approach. It was very revealing when, in the interview with the neocon supremacist propagandist Jeffrey Goldberg (of IDF tortures infamy), the now editor of The Atlantic (primary mouthpiece of imperialism and wokism as well), Obama resiseted the pressure on why he did not approve of massive escalation in Ukraine, because he believed that Russia had escalatory dominance.

As it is, both presidents of potential change - Barry and Donny, that is - were co-opted by the regime through indirect and direct pressure as none of them was a genuine fighter willing to confront the establishment. However, Trump was deemed iredeemable due to his crash rhetoric that ruined the integrity of the narrative that involved superior, altruistic morals on the part of the west. Hence the final decision to remove him from power: he undermined the narrative by revealing (however indvertedly) the true face of Anglo-American imperialism.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 30 2024 19:57 utc | 84

And Israeli forces have entered Lebanon.

Posted by: Mary | Sep 30 2024 19:58 utc | 85

Posted by: Richard L | Sep 30 2024 14:16 utc | 41

That was a good find. A reasonable explanation. Plus, the west doesn't want misinfo that implies approval for missile attacks deep in Russia. Not yet at least.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 30 2024 20:02 utc | 86

EU industry continues to suffer:

The owner of Vauxhall, Fiat and Peugeot has issued a profit warning, blaming a hit to sales from a deterioration in the global automotive market and increased competition from Chinese rivals. Stellantis shares plunged by 14% on Monday after it said it expected profit margins to be between 5.5% and 7% for the year, down from the previous forecast of double-digit growth. The British luxury car manufacturer Aston Martin also issued a profit warning on Monday, blaming the softening Chinese market as well as widespread supply chain issues for the drop. Almost $10bn (£7.5bn) was wiped off European auto stocks on Monday after the two profit warnings and one from Volkswagen on Friday, amid growing fears over weakening car sales. The Stoxx Auto and Parts index, which analyses the share prices of Europe’s largest car and parts manufacturers, recorded a 4% drop on Monday. The rival carmakers BMW and Mercedes have also said in the past month that they would face lower profits this year, citing weaker demand.

And today the UK closed its last coal-fired power station, and the last blast furnace in Wales.

I don't think people have to worry about a Royal Navy flotilla occupying Sebastapol, to put it mildly.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Sep 30 2024 20:03 utc | 87

"a company can be up to 160 men strong... during maneuvers in Hungary in 1983, my company had a total of 156 men."

Posted by: ossi | Sep 30 2024 14:25 utc | 42

In a company are those sets of three tanks and carriers representing platoons?

I'm confused because it seems like you would need more troop carriers.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 30 2024 20:06 utc | 88

Aegis Ashore complexes in Poland and Yugoslavia would be primary retaliation targets. Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 30 2024 16:02 utc | 62

They are in Poland and Romania and I agree that they are among the highest rated targets, probably at the top of the list. Yugoslavia is now only on old maps having been fragmented by NATO.

Posted by: JohninMK | Sep 30 2024 20:07 utc | 89

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/77900

Ours broke through from the west to Vuhledar, knocked the Armed Forces of Ukraine out of high-rise buildings and hoisted the flag of Russia!

▪️While all the attention of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was focused on our attacks in the eastern part of Vuhledar, the soldiers of the 5th Guards Tank Regiment and the 430th Motorized Rifle Regiment, with the support of other units of the Vostok group, occupied the western outskirts of Vuhledar with a rapid breakthrough.

▪️The enemy could not oppose this maneuver and our fighters broke into high-rise buildings in the western part of the city.

▪️The improvement of positions in the eastern part of Vuhledar also continues. The city has not yet been liberated, but its fate is unequivocally predetermined.

Posted by: guest | Sep 30 2024 17:46 utc | 72

Usually the map I use is late, but it confirms 1/3 of the western part taken

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1xPxgT8LtUjuspSOGHJc2VzA5O5jWMTE&ll=47.799500979506455%2C37.25808554542958&z=13

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 20:10 utc | 90

Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 30 2024 17:19 utc | 68

‘after y'all said so smugly they'd be obliterated in two days’.

Receipts please, I think I said two weeks to a month, but that was based on the Ukrainians being sensible, and not re-purposing a failed raid into a full-scale incursion.

What’s with the ‘y’all’? Are you following the annoying Harris technique of adopting a new accent for reasons of authenticity? In the same vein of being a pseudo-good ol’ boy, ‘bless your heart’.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 30 2024 20:15 utc | 91

JohninMK | Sep 30 2024 20:07 utc | 89--

Yes, Romania of course. Thanks for the correction. Mind definitely elsewhere.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 30 2024 20:25 utc | 92

Receipts please, I think I said two weeks to a month, but that was based on the Ukrainians being sensible, and not re-purposing a failed raid into a full-scale incursion.

What’s with the ‘y’all’? Are you following the annoying Harris technique of adopting a new accent for reasons of authenticity? In the same vein of being a pseudo-good ol’ boy, ‘bless your heart’.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 30 2024 20:15 utc | 91

Strange that he is bothering you, I explained earlier that in a couple of weeks AFU had committed 80.000+ and had to reinforce with 20.000 and later every month with 20.000 to sustain any hope of movement.

As you mentioned often, 30% losses is a good threshold for keeping operationality.

It was a 80k operation, with a monthly cost of 20.000 ... If they keep paying they keep playing (what do we have right now? 70 units between the two sides playing?)

For all the coked up cheerleaders of z, adding a +15% casualties to a bad situation is not brilliant.

Wasting whatever tanks and armored vehicles and AD for an operation that no longer (from day 2 or 3) has no attainable operational objectives... full retard.

Only "rational" objective I can see is quicken the fall for BEFORE US elections, to force the us to engage nato forces to hold the line.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 30 2024 20:28 utc | 93

Time for RF to up the ante in the game of guts.......issue a clear channel warning to NATO...

- Any RC135 R's or EW3's or Global Hawks observed anywhere near the Black Sea coast of Crimea will be escorted by force to the nearest RF air base, or destroyed, take your pick....

- Any attack with Storm Shadows or Neptunes or ATACM's on any RF target inside Russia will lead to the attack on and destruction of the UK base on Cyprus...no exceptions..

- Any UAF F16 flying a combat mission out of or refueling or arming or rearming in a NATO base in Romania or Poland will justify a Kinzal missile strike on those bases.......

- Stop the NATO BS on behalf of the corrupt fascist dictatorship in Kieve...........we are not a disarmed and outgunned Serbia, we will strike you and strike back hard, the days of NATO destroying the slavic Serbian Republic of Krajina, attacking the Serbian Republic of Bosnia, bombing civilian targets in Belgrade and Nis, and hammering the Serb Province of Kosovo on behalf of jihadii radicals is over........go ahead, make my day.....do you feel lucky punk?

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 30 2024 20:31 utc | 94

Honzo @ Sep 30 2024 15:57 utc | 60

You can Was count on the Americans to Do the right Thing after all the other options have been exhausted

Posted by: SOS | Sep 30 2024 20:33 utc | 95

I stated many weeks ago that the full front disintegration of the southern front would begin around Octavian 1st, and sure as shootin' we are seeing exactly that......a full front max pressure on the Ukronazi army with sections under full and uncontrolled mell pell retreat........

Let the games begin, now how soon until Volo and Budanov and company are either capped or depart via Romania for their villas in either Haifa, Miami Beach or Geneva....??

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 30 2024 20:40 utc | 96

"Ossi....appreciate you adding real information and experience to the blog ."

Posted by: Jo | Sep 30 2024 15:28 utc | 55
Definitely. Ossi rocks.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 30 2024 20:48 utc | 97

'Nato’s Lord Haw Haw – Jens Stoltenberg, stands down today as its propaganda mouthpiece – he will be replaced tomorrow with ex- Dutch PM Mark Rutte – its a like for like replacement.' -- Republicofscotland

One would think America could recruit more capable europuppets.

But one would be wrong.

Posted by: Jim H | Sep 30 2024 20:50 utc | 98

Jim H @ 98

One would think America could recruit more capable europuppets. But one would be wrong.

That's the last thing they wan't. You'd think the USA would recruit more capable puppets back home too, but that's also the last thing the overlords want. Shows how scared and cowardly the controllers actually are, they want front people of such weak character that there is minus zero chance of them going rogue, rising to the occasion, actually using the power of their office. So, low IQ, bumblers, spivs and abject fools is all we'll ever see, and sadly until after the ugly consequences of WW3 clears them out.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 30 2024 21:07 utc | 99

Here is some Priceless dark humor if you need a little comic relief. I won't spoil the joke with a quote.

https://youtube.com/shorts/JZEUGg8X2K4?si=38s_VpSTegrbgo8F

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 30 2024 21:12 utc | 100