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September 3, 2024
Ukraine – Russian Missile Strike Hits Swedish Instructors

A Russian missile strike on the Ukrainian Military Institute of Communications in Poltava has at least killed 41 and wounded two hundreds. Other sources claim higher numbers.

Poltava is about 120 kilometer from the Russian border. The warning times after the missile launch was allegedly too short for everyone to reach the bunkers.

The Institute of Communications is training radio and radar operators. Its main multi-story building has been completely destroyed.

Britta Ellwanger, a (former?) Swedish volunteer with the Ukrainian army wrote that Swedish friends of hers, also volunteering with the Ukrainian army, were among those who died in the strike.


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Sweden had promised to gift two Swedish AWACS planes to Ukraine:

Sweden has announced sending its Saab 340B AEW&C (Airborne Early Warning and Control) aircraft to Kyiv, as per an announcement made by its defense ministry on May 29, 2024.

Given the nature of the Institute of Communications in Poltava it is likely that the Swedes were training Ukrainian operators for those.

One wonders why the training was not held elsewhere.

The Swedes should have remembered the history of that city:

The Battle of Poltava[e] (8 July 1709) was the decisive and largest battle of the Great Northern War. The Russian army under the command of Tsar Peter I defeated the Swedish army under the command of Carl Gustaf Rehnskiöld. The battle put an end to the status of the Swedish Empire as a European great power, as well as its eastbound expansion, and marked the beginning of Russian supremacy in eastern Europe.

Swedish and NATO attempts to change that status of Russia in eastern Europe more than 300 years after it had been achieved has ended in failure.

Comments

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:20 utc | 94
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Harris won the elections already.

Posted by: AI | Sep 3 2024 17:35 utc | 101

All UKR and RU TG and social media channels are moderated by their governments, they all signed agreements to such moderation, so I’m suspicious of critiques, RU controls seem to be more lenient…
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 17:09 utc | 89

I call bullshit to that.
If your readership is over 10 000 you have to register your real-life details like real name and address, as a mass-medium, but no one checks what you write nor moderates.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Sep 3 2024 17:36 utc | 102

Posted by: Poslan1 | Sep 3 2024 17:36 utc | 102
In Russia, I mean

Posted by: Poslan1 | Sep 3 2024 17:37 utc | 103

We expect the SBU counterintelligence to quickly detain both the enemy missile gunners and our military commanders who are guilty of the tragedy!”
Ukrainian Post
https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/13168
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 17:09 utc | 89
Yeah, that would be fun to watch.
I agree that the post is absurd disinfo to cover the real security failures- or, just perhaps, to cover a deliberate US ‘security failure,’ in aid of shutting down the Eurohawks. There is no intersection of reality with US interests that benefits from widening the circle of combatants at this time. Everything the US desires that is within the remotest realm of possibility requires either bailing out of Ukraine or continuing a slow bleed. Ramping up achieves no ‘positive’ goals, but threatens the entire foundation of Bankers’ power. Treasuries and derivatives aren’t worth much when your markets and manufacturing capacity have been obliterated.

Posted by: Honzo | Sep 3 2024 17:42 utc | 104

Jams O’Donnell @ 99

Saab should have stuck to making cars.

If they had there’d be no planes or cars. A non-vassal, non compromised Sweden should have contracted out the planes to cheaper better China or Russia and sold Saab to some Chinese e-car company before they totally destroyed the brand’s value. That’s why they jumped into NATO, dreams of carving up the Russian carcass and delegated vassalage over a part of the arctic is the only thing they have left.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 17:42 utc | 105

Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:20 utc | 94
“How really dumb is it operate a training school packed full and students and NATO mercenaries only 120klicks from the Russian border? And then openly parade the troops daily in front of the chow hall!”
It seems like Kiev deliberately offers up these targets as bait, in the hope that one of these days a NATO country will go off half-cocked and launch a direct attack on Russia in “retaliation” for its personnel being destroyed.

Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 3 2024 17:42 utc | 106

AI | Sep 3 2024 17:35 utc | 101
“Harris won the elections already.”
We don’t know yet which blow-up doll the Zionists will decide to install. Both are falling over themselves to be head genocide cheerleader.

Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 3 2024 17:45 utc | 107

It is rather symbolic that Swedes died in Poltava considering Charles XII of Sweden lost a major battle in Poltava in 1709 to the forces of Peter the Great. (1)
1. In my opinion Charles XII might have prevailed in that strange battle-he was perhaps the best of all the military captains of that period-but he was wounded in the foot the day before the battle and was not commanding at Poltava..

Posted by: canuck | Sep 3 2024 17:45 utc | 108

A Neo-Nazi commander – in the Ukrainian forces admits that they f&cked-up – by having so many targets in the one place.
“Igor Mosiychuk, a former MP and deputy commander of the notorious neo-Nazi Azov regiment, claimed that the attack may have resulted in up to 600 casualties. While blaming Russia for the strike, he also said the military command bears some responsibility for allowing so many high-value soldiers to be in one place without shelter.”
On Poltava.
“Poltava is the site of the 1709 battle in which the Russian Army under Peter the Great decisively defeated Swedish invaders under King Charles XII. The Swedes were aided by Cossacks of Ivan Mazepa, who is revered as a hero in modern Ukraine but has long been considered a traitor in Russia.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2024 17:50 utc | 109

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 3 2024 16:23 utc | 56
Thanks for your explanation.

Posted by: vargas | Sep 3 2024 17:52 utc | 110

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:20 utc | 94
Do you really think that if that ‘school’ was at 500kms RF could not hit it? 🤔

Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 17:57 utc | 111

@ vargas | Sep 3 2024 15:22 utc | 15
Yes, it has seemed to me too that the US is trying to provoke Russia to use nukes. They push for that on the theory that whoever is the first to use nukes will be hated by the world, and their further ulterior motive is to legitimate their use for the US, which could then say by way of excuse that the Russians did it first. Although some persons in touch with some of the US leadership strongly deny that the US wants Russia to use nukes, what else are we to conclude when the neocons seem continually plotting and making the Ukrainians carry out increasing attacks inside Russia?
For the time being, it looks like Russia is handling such aggressions well and has not felt any immediate existential threat that would call for nuclear weapons to be used.
But the danger of nuclear war is not far off, and the consequences of any use of nuclear weapons are not possible to calculate, as the unexpected would happen in such a situation. Absit omen.

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 3 2024 17:59 utc | 112

Like much of Europe, Sweden has also come under the sway of ethnic nationalist supremacy. Learning the deaths of two Swedish fascists occurred in Poltava is heartening for opponents of their ideology and Sweden’s joining NATO. Swedes are going to regret repudiating neutrality.

Posted by: Keme | Sep 3 2024 18:00 utc | 113

49 – Covering up NATO casualties is the order of the day. Maybe in five, ten or twenty years they will say how many were killed. Or perhaps never.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 3 2024 18:01 utc | 114

I agree that the media is fogging the numbers as the following Reuters sub heading shows
At least 50 people were killed and 271 wounded when Russia hit a military institute in Ukraine’s central town of Poltava with two ballistic missiles on Tuesday, the war’s deadliest single attack this year.
At least 50 but 271 wounded sounds exact, eh?
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and I am sticking with my belief that Ukraine and Occupied Palestine “stop” before November US (s)election.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2024 18:07 utc | 115

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 3 2024 17:59 utc | 112
… whoever is the first to use nukes will be hated by the world
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I think the US of A holds the first place and the japs know that.

Posted by: AI | Sep 3 2024 18:13 utc | 116

It’s fairly clear the west have now given up of winning on the battlefield of Ukraine. Rather, they have themselves ‘gone nuclear’ by sanctioning direct attacks deep inside Russia in order to hopefully force a result in their favour.
The ultimate consequences however may be far worse for them than their intended preferred outcome of Russian withdrawal or regime change.
The lowering of the nuclear threshold currently being implemented by Russia may at first glance appear performative, but coupled with the wests increasing disinterest in the war ‘in’ Ukraine, and increasing focus on hitting Russia directly, has already pushed us to DEFCON 3, if not 2.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 3 2024 18:15 utc | 117

GW@75……it was Radar and Comms training centre, it must have been under a bridge if Russia just found it now….tis a SlogMow kinda thing. Russia finds all these neat Ukie military centres like the one in Odessa 3 mths ago….did you say something about Russian Intelligence…..it’s lacking.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 3 2024 18:19 utc | 118

The strike on the Paradise Hotel in Zaporozhye was supposedly mostly USA techs or soldiers, supposedly a fair lot. Maybe it’ll make the Pentagon step back and re-think, maybe it’ll make it step forward and seek retribution. Russians should batten down the hatches.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 18:21 utc | 119

One of the take aways from this strike should be that Russia does not need to use nukes of any sort to successfully execute their SMO.
And so far they have kept the barbaric empire from nuking us all in a fit of pique from the thousands of cuts.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2024 18:22 utc | 120

sean the leprechaun @ 118
You have a simple understanding of intelligence. The allies had Enigma yet they allowed a number of their own ships to get sunk.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 18:24 utc | 121

In 2016, after Trump won the election, Obama spent the next two months ramping up aggression against Russia, including kicking out embassy staff and stealing their property in late December, and sending more US troops to some Baltic poodle in January.
Russia refused to take the bait. Putin responded to the expelling of the diplomats at Christmas by inviting American diplomats in Moscow to a Christmas party. But that was then, and this is now.
Expect major escalations after Nov. 5th, if Trump wins again. The same neocons are in charge now, in the Biden White House, and they are even more deranged, if that is possible.
This is a very dangerous time for the world.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Sep 3 2024 18:25 utc | 122

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2024 18:07 utc | 115
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I don’t believe that either can stop like one can throw a light switch.
Men are deployed, bombers are fuelled up on the tarmacs, and the domestic fanatics are frothing at the mouth.
I hope that Israel keeps going. At this point, the only desirable solution is the total collapse of the Zionist state. Anything less, even a much reduced in scope Israel, will not be worth all of those lives lost.
Likewise, I do not think Putin is going to stop until he has achieved (to his mind) 100% of his objectives. Laymen may argue about what demilitarization and de-Nazification look like, but the Russians will not stop until they have achieved the high end of their objectives. Too many Russians have died to liberate the Donbass from the Nazis.
It is unlikely that the Arabs (a civilization that once was famous for its blood feuds) and the Slavs (a group defined by their tragic national experiences) are likely to “let things go” regardless of the treasure or apologies being offered.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2024 18:29 utc | 123

Hei Norwegian
Hytte på Hvaler- kaffe en dag

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 3 2024 18:30 utc | 124

Posted by: Cabe | Sep 3 2024 17:59 utc | 112
I think that US would like to make it easier for Izrael to attack Iran bu nuc. weapons.

Posted by: vargas | Sep 3 2024 18:31 utc | 125

Posted by: wagelaborer | Sep 3 2024 18:25 utc | 122
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Friend, it is a very Yankee-centric view to think that what America does or does not is more important than what Russia or Iran does.
Yes, America can tinker on the margins but as we’ve seen in Afghanistan, America’s best tactic is to retreat and then memory-hole the failure quickly.
What happens in America is funny and tragic but it increasingly doesn’t matter as countries have rapidly backed away from the Western system of influence, materially, spiritually, and psychologically.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2024 18:33 utc | 126

Keme | Sep 3 2024 18:00 utc | 113
“Like much of Europe, Sweden has also come under the sway of ethnic nationalist supremacy.”
Is that why, like much of Europe, they’ve thrown open their borders to an ethnically alien invasion?

Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 3 2024 18:34 utc | 127

Russia does not need to use nukes of any sort to successfully execute their SMO.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2024 18:22 utc | 120
As ‘yet’ they don’t need to resort to nuclear responses. However, the wests game plan now is out in the open. It is to take the gloves off and attack Russia and it’s military assets directly on Russian soil, using Storm Shadows to potentially obliterate airfields and possibly even military barracks near Moscow. That is the demand that the Coke-head has made and we know what he wants he usually gets in the end, and he is even more likely to succeed if he complains that Donbas is about to fall. Indeed the hawks in the pentagon I’ll be rubbing their hands at glee at the thought of strikes in Russia in the coming weeks.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 3 2024 18:35 utc | 128

Britta is more innocent than we think- but she is the same kin as Zelinsky
https://forpeace.us/who-we-are

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 3 2024 18:38 utc | 129

@Paul from Norway | Sep 3 2024 18:30 utc | 124
Hei og takk! Men jeg bor ikke i Halden lengre 🙂

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 18:42 utc | 130

Waldorf @ 114

Covering up NATO casualties is the order of the day. Maybe in five, ten or twenty years they will say how many were killed. Or perhaps never.

Nicolai Lilin Italian-Russian journalist who has access to Russian msm and private by invite only TG military channels, and friends in the RuAF, he fought in Chechnya, on his YT just did a rundown of the precision strikes against NATO groupings in UKR over the last two weeks: Kiev, Kharkov, Sumy, Zaporozhye, Poltava and comes up with 1080 killed. He calls it industrial scale elimination of western techs and mercenaries.
It’s likely there were several hundred Americans in that, hopefully it’ll cause a re-think on the part of the USA… maybe not. If ClownWorld thought things through it wouldn’t be ClownWorld.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 18:46 utc | 131

@Paul from Norway | Sep 3 2024 18:38 utc | 129
She sounds a bit too innocent and naive
https://forpeace.us/bios/britta-ellwanger
Until February 24, 2022, Britta was a graduate student at the National University of Kyiv Mohyla Academy in their flagship Anticorruption Studies program.
Sure, “Anticorruption Studies” in Maidan Ukraine…

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 18:50 utc | 132

@Vargas – I probably ought to add that just because the threat is probably empty does not mean that Russia shouldn’t take it deadly seriously. If Trump wins, I can easily see the Biden admin handing over those JSAMS just to start WWIII and hand Trump a huge shitshow he can’t just end or negotiate his way out of.
I think this threat needs a response. This is essentially NATO threatening WWIII. Russia has to have a response that includes turning bases in Romainia, Germany, and Poland into smouldering holes in the ground.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 3 2024 18:52 utc | 133

The family that financed the Swedish Empire:
This banking family replaced the Medici family who influenced all of Europe during the Renaissance. The Fuggers took over many of the Medicis’ assets and their political power and influence. They were closely affiliated with the House of Habsburg whose rise to world power they financed.
Jakob Fugger “the Rich” was elevated to the nobility of the Holy Roman Empire in May 1511 and assumed the title Imperial Count of Kirchberg and Weissenhorn in 1514. Today, he is considered to be one of the wealthiest people ever to have lived, with a GDP-adjusted net worth of over $400 billion, and approximately 2% of the entire GDP of Europe at the time.
He was elevated to the nobility of the Holy Roman Empire in May 1511, made Imperial Count in 1514, and in 1519, led a consortium of German and Italian businessmen that loaned Charles V 850,000 florins (about 95,625 oz(t) or 2974 kg of gold) to procure his election as Holy Roman Emperor over Francis I of France.[8] The Fuggers’ contribution was 543,000 florins.
In 1525, the Fuggers were granted the revenues from the Spanish orders of knighthood together with the profits from mercury and silver mines.[13] The formerly rich yield of the Tirolean and Hungarian mines decreased, but Anton established new trade ties with Peru and Chile and started mining ventures in Sweden and Norway. He was involved in the slave trade from Africa to America, but was more successful in the spice trade and the importation of Hungarian cattle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugger_family
When Sweden won they took over the Swedish kingdom
They were replaced by the Rothchilds and have financed all wars/evil since- from Napoleon-ww1-ww2-slavery-vietnam-afganistan- too this one
See also the: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassoon_family

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 3 2024 19:01 utc | 134

Ghost of Zanon @ 133
No need to entangle Trump. The Pentagon outright ignored, ie disobeyed, Trump’s directive to pull out of Syria. This time Trump is a lame duck – the operative word there isn’t duck.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 19:03 utc | 135

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 3 2024 18:52 utc | 133
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You left Bulgaria out. However, Russia won’t do that unless she’s left without a reasonable choice. I believe the US of A will be a first target to be hit long before the eu.

Posted by: AI | Sep 3 2024 19:04 utc | 136

Any teenage video gamer would know that 200+ soldiers and their retinue locating in a high rise near the front line would be noticed and targeted. Especially in a majority Russian speaking city. Whoever planned this has less savvy than the average video gamer.

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Sep 3 2024 19:05 utc | 137

Cabe 112 Yes, it has seemed to me too that the US is trying to provoke Russia to use nukes
They are, because after first use, the cabal believes the zionist state will then be able to use them with impunity across iranian and lebanon mountains. Russia knows this. Russia would launch and successfully destroy important sites in eu & us with conventional weapons then wait, despite the bluster.

Posted by: NJH | Sep 3 2024 19:05 utc | 138

“Like much of Europe, Sweden has also come under the sway of ethnic nationalist supremacy.”

I don’t know what distant planet you come from, but i’ll bring you up to date.
Our masters inherited (1967-) the Club of Heirs of the British Empire (USA, Canada, UK, EU, Aus, NZ)
They have at their service the most colossal military empire that the face of the earth has ever seen.
– Chaos and Terror must be unleashed in Iraq, they said.
And there the American pawns went to kill and die and send 1 million Iraqis to hell.
And in their private hunting ground …
(“our colonial project” (Vladimir Jabotinsky) founded by the British Empire 1917- and a group of violent and fanatic people from Ukraine, Lithuania, Poland and Belarus, from a medieval ethnic group forged from what in the past had been a religion formed by people from “all the nations of (the Persian, Greek and Roman) world”)
… they have been massacring civilians for almost 90 years.
And they are invited to the Eurovision gay party and the Olympics.
The Swedes, like the rest of the vassals of this colossal empire, can be fascists as long as their fascism is kosher, and of course they cannot be patriots even in homeopathic quantities. And the same goes for the Americans, who have neither their own country nor their own parlament.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 3 2024 19:05 utc | 139

Fake. Britta Ellwanger denies posting that. Russian disinformation hijacking someone’s name, who woulda thunked, and Moony peddling the lie, who could possibly have predicted that!

Posted by: Mo | Sep 3 2024 19:07 utc | 140

This Hal Turner post has a photo which allegedly is of this same now-deceased training class. (Of course with Turner it’s hard to tell how authentic it is.)
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/news-selections/world-news/russian-missile-hits-in-poltava-wipe-out-700-troops-mercs-nato-advisors

Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 3 2024 19:07 utc | 141

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 3 2024 15:59 utc | 44
“Swedes are considered even here in my northern Minnesota county, one with quite the Scandihoovian blend of original settlers; that Swedes have a reputation of being stubbornly stoopid.”
What county? I’m near Duluth and we do hear “dumb Swede” mentioned occasionally.

Posted by: Paranaense | Sep 3 2024 19:07 utc | 142

Norway @ 134
Meet The Fuggers
New to me, very interesting. Whodda thunk you could acquire college credits hanging out at a bar!

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 19:12 utc | 143

Fucking Britta Ellwanker, explain to satan in hell what you were doing helping to set up child farms, organ farms, bioweapon labs, genocide and planet-encompassing BlackRock agro-chemical wasteland in Ukraine and mewling and hooting about “helping families”. And then burn. Fucking burn for eternity in the fire lake.
Fan va roligt.

Posted by: Michael A | Sep 3 2024 19:12 utc | 144

This incident may illustrate why I say a single phone call might end this war, at the right moment. I do notice a number of British M6 bullsh*t You Tube videos about how wonderful Kursk is. By Saturday night, 10,000 of Ukraines best soldiers will be dead. Together with the astonishing loss of armour, that’s quite a disaster.

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 3 2024 19:17 utc | 145

Posted by: Night Tripper | Sep 3 2024 18:35 utc | 128
Those who, in a few months, will be using showers and dishwashers chips will be the west.
I’m not even confident that they could repourpose dishwashers chips, by the way.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 19:18 utc | 146

The competition is therefore very close
We do not know if in the future, after this terrible tragedy of the Ukrainian gambit (1997-, 2008-) …
the expression “you are more stupid than a Ukrainian” will triumph, or if among the common people they will say “you are more stupid than a Swede”

Posted by: Simon | Sep 3 2024 19:19 utc | 147

There are different speculations why Putin rushed to Mongolia, but from historic perspective…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarlig – A jarlig, [1][2][3] also written yarlyk, is an edict, permission, license, or written commandant of Mongol and Chinggisid rulers’ “formal diplomas.” From the mid-13th to mid-15th centuries, all princes of Northeastern Rus received jarliq authorizing their rule. The issuing of jarlyk on governing of Rus finalized the establishment of the title of Grand Duke of Vladimir (…of Kiev).

Posted by: Arioch | Sep 3 2024 19:20 utc | 148

I’m with John Perkins (Confessions of an Economic Hit Man) on this, women are on earth to act as a counterbalance to men, an opposing logic, and opposing force, an opposing nature, to fill out the debate not to jump on the same side of the scale as the men, especially since men tend to rush wantonly into disaster after disaster.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 17:33 utc | 100
Absolutely. They’re just so fragile. You can beat up, enslave and humiliate a man, and if he survives and gets over it, he will be no less of a man, rather an even stronger one. Whereas a woman spoiled (by feminism, childhood abuse, sex with slimy little gangstas, drugs, cruelty, vulgarity, witnessing violence even just in media, or too much power) is broken forever and is unfixable. Sure, she can become healed, or powerful, or wise, or kind, or useful to society, but she’s not a woman any longer in the realms of sex, love, romance, motherhood, or the connection between woman and man.
A man’s value is in what he can do. A woman’s value is in what she hasn’t done.

Posted by: Michael A | Sep 3 2024 19:22 utc | 149

“Russian interference” they said…
Ukrainian anthem found in US voter database code. A review of the software responsible for compiling voter lists in New Hampshire reportedly revealed that it was connected to servers outside the US https://www.rt.com/news/603406-ukrainian-anthem-us-voter-database/

Posted by: Arioch | Sep 3 2024 19:24 utc | 150

Sorry- not won but lost in Poltava
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Poltava
In the 1930s, the Swedish Nazis held celebrations on the date of Charles XII’s death, and shortly before the outbreak of World War II, Adolf Hitler received from Sweden a sculpture of the king at his birthday.[59] In the late 20th century, Swedish nationalists and neo-Nazis had again used 30 November as a date for their ceremonies, however these were regularly interrupted by larger counter-demonstrations and were abandoned.[60]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_XII_of_Sweden
In Swedish
https://web.archive.org/web/20230326031025/https://slakthistoria.se/livet-forr/vad-hande-med-karl-xii-s-kreditorer

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 3 2024 19:27 utc | 151

Eighthman @ 145

10,000 of Ukraines best soldiers will be dead. Together with the astonishing loss of armour, that’s quite a disaster.

Casualties, not dead, I doubt Kursk would still be active if it was 10,000 dead.
flying dutchman @ 141

Of course with Turner it’s hard to tell how authentic it is.

Even at it’s most self-absorbed and empty-headed I doubt that after the Yavoriv military base strike in 2022, ClownWorld would concentrate 700 USA specialists in one spot anywhere in Ukraine, much less close to the front. Closer to the front, less warning time to duck and cover, the more spread out you’d want to be. Poltova is probably a minute for an Iskander. Turner sure has clickbait gusto, kind of nasty too, these people have families.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 19:34 utc | 152

Let us remember that turning Ukraine into a province under German power is a project from before 1914
there is a total continuity, based on classism between the Kaiser Wilhem II and the current puppets of Berlin through Adolf
It is classism that makes them identify with Judaism, which is deeply classist. So deeply classist that in 66-70 there was a civil war between the Jewish population and the self-proclaimed Jewish people.
Let us not forget that “our colonial project” was driven by the horror and fear of London Jews that London would be filled with Jews from Ukraine and Belarus
and it is also classism that is the source of the blindness of the Russian ruling class

Posted by: Simon | Sep 3 2024 19:35 utc | 153

james @ 3
Sweden is governed by Wallenberg family. Period. They show a democratic face when it is opportune to do so.

Posted by: oldhippie | Sep 3 2024 19:37 utc | 154

This Britta Ellwanger is really hopping between the kindest of countries.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/britta-ellwanger-37469b204/details/experience/

Posted by: ? | Sep 3 2024 19:39 utc | 155

Afaik it is the first time that the deaths of nato soldiers are acknowledged. Or am I wront?
Will they receive national funerals?

Posted by: Naive | Sep 3 2024 19:41 utc | 156

Posted by: Naive | Sep 3 2024 19:41 utc | 156
they just joined the clique – they have to take some for the team 😉

Posted by: Macpott | Sep 3 2024 19:42 utc | 157

The Swedish news about the attack does not mention any Swedes, but then again, I don’t see any reason why it would. The information is based on Ukrainian sources, and if they told Swedes are dying in the war, some people in Sweden might start questioning the whole involvement.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/utrikes/ukraina-over-40-doda-efter-attack-mot-poltava
What bothers me more is the number of casualties reported. According to it, the 51 killed is one of the highest casualty strikes so far (they mention another in July when 42 were killed). But according to MoA, the number of people killed daily in the war is in the triple digits. If the casualties reported in the mainstream are so low, no wonder nobody takes the war seriously enough and western leaders aren’t held accountable. It just looks like a picknick with the occasional mishap.

Posted by: Format | Sep 3 2024 19:44 utc | 158

First of all, I rejoice in the shameful deaths of those of my compatriots who have chosen to serve the United States under the Nazi banner. This should go without saying. Second, the childish and opportunistic mocking of Charles XII that Bernhard and his pseudo-socialist (or other) suck-ups indulge in is good for nothing. Not sure what to say, it’s rather embarrassing.
Sweden was the not-so-surprising victim of a conspiracy between Great Britain and Russia in the 19th Century. “Real history will show that the Khans of the Golden Horde were no more instrumental in realising the plans of Ivan III. and his predecessors than the rulers of England were in realising the plans of Peter I and his successors.” – Karl Marx, Revelations of the Diplomatic History of the 18th Century, Ch.5
Are Peter’s victories your victories? Are the English victories your victories? Have a read.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 3 2024 19:51 utc | 159

Britta Ellwanger: she is member of a ring of fascists claiming that the operation to free Donbass (they say “invasion”) was unprovoked and that there is no nazi in Ukraine.
Just wow!

Posted by: Naive | Sep 3 2024 19:52 utc | 160

Britta Ellwanger: she is member of a ring of fascists claiming that the operation to free Donbass (they say “invasion”) was unprovoked and that there is no nazi in Ukraine.
Just wow!
Posted by: Naive | Sep 3 2024 19:52 utc | 160
Yes, it’s rather incredible. There are two wings of Nazis in Sweden. One supports the Ukraine and the other supports Russia.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 3 2024 19:56 utc | 161

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 19:03 utc | 135
Didn’t Trump brag about staying in Syria and that we’re only there to be taking their oil?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2024 19:58 utc | 162

LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 19:34 utc | 152
“Even at it’s most self-absorbed and empty-headed I doubt that after the Yavoriv military base strike in 2022, ClownWorld would concentrate 700 USA specialists in one spot anywhere in Ukraine, much less close to the front.”
Well, however many hohol trainees there were, like I said above I suspect that by now Bankova may be deliberately trying to get NATO cadres killed.

Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 3 2024 19:58 utc | 163

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 3 2024 19:51 utc | 159 etc.
Does this mean we can finally stop hearing from the concern trolls/sockmuppets claiming you were banned?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2024 19:59 utc | 164

This incident may illustrate why I say a single phone call might end this war, at the right moment. I do notice a number of British M6 bullsh*t You Tube videos about how wonderful Kursk is. By Saturday night, 10,000 of Ukraines best soldiers will be dead. Together with the astonishing loss of armour, that’s quite a disaster.
Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 3 2024 19:17 utc | 145

First we were told Ukraine’s best troops were captured in Mariupol.
Then that they had burned in the Severodonetsk and Lisichansk cauldron.
Then that they got consumed in Bakhmut battle.
And then that they were wasted in Klescheevka.
Now the latest story is that they are committing collective suicide in Kursk. Sure, whatever floats your boat man. People like you have, with remarkable regularity, predicted Ukraine’s collapse, and with same astonishing regularity have ended with eggs on their face.
So, whatever, continue hallucinating about thousands of casualties per day and believing the Russian MoD fairytales. If at least you had the humility to self-reflect and look back over the hundreds of failed overoptimistic predictions for two years and a half, we could have a meaningful conversation. Instead you will probably dream up another 5D judo chess game fantasy where the Russians have actually lured Ukraine into Russia proper to better beat them up. Yeah right, also actually in 1945 the Wehrmacht didn’t retreat, they lured the US and the USSR into Germany proper because it was more comfortable to fight them there. If you studiously put away any evidence and hard facts, you may believe any scenario.

Posted by: Micron | Sep 3 2024 20:00 utc | 165

This Swedish nafo Lady i. m. o. *had* to write/say her account had been hacked because some Swedish/nato security guys told her to do: They simply can´t let this disastrous story getting known by a broader public.

Posted by: Blue Angel | Sep 3 2024 20:06 utc | 166

You could look at NATO as a kind of insurance company. A country pays a fee to the US, and in return the US provides a security guarantee.
Now consider the eastward expansion of NATO, and make a quick cost/benefit analysis.
Various countries would be very expensive to defend, while the benefit they provide the US is small. The risk and cost of adding these countries to NATO is unjustifiable.
Unless your long term goal is overthrowing the Russian state, looting Russia, and have Russian oil and gas pay the cost of an occupying army. Then those bases in Eastern Europe make sense.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 3 2024 20:07 utc | 167

Does this mean we can finally stop hearing from the concern trolls/sockmuppets claiming you were banned?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 3 2024 19:59 utc | 164
Haven’t heard anyone whining about it. Am I really that popular? Way to avoid the point.
The bottom line, however, is I’m nothing but happy about some Nazi Swedes getting torched in the-country-formerly-known-as-the-Ukraine. I just think that the constant snickering about Poltava is pretty silly. In essence, Sweden occupied something close to the “second power” role that Russia occupies today… but weaker. The “Empire” was a shoddy construct.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 3 2024 20:09 utc | 168

Let us remember that when the director of the bloody Biblical Theme Park went to Moscow to renew the permit for the regular bombings in Syria… he was received with all cordiality by Vladimir
Of course, the usual thing, being classified as ‘untermenshen’ is something that happens to others
That a dominant people, a “HerrenVolk” we would say in German, carry out massacres to make clear who is the Dominant and who is the subjugated population …
is what is expressly desired by the Great Rag Doll in hands of Aramaic ventriloquists
it is the correct order of creation in the Roman-Biblical mental world in its various editions from the first fusion (ca. 500/600) to the most recent one (1967-)
The Russians are incapable of accepting and swallowing the truth: in The West Empire or Biblical-Roman Empire … they are seen as ‘untermenshen’ as if they were Palestinians or, without going any further, as if they were Slavs in 1943
(and the Ukrainians are of course expendable pawns)

Posted by: Simon | Sep 3 2024 20:10 utc | 169

Hum… anything to do with BRICS? Curious curiouser it gets…West feeling heat?
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/imf-to-send-first-mission-to-russia-since-ukraine-invasion
“IMF to send first mission to Russia since Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine”
Mr Mozhin said the International Monetary Fund mission would start via an online format on Sept 16, and will continue with an IMF delegation visit to Moscow for meetings with Russian officials until Oct 1.
The IMF’s last annual mission visited Russia in November 2019, before the start of the Covid-19 pandemic. There have been no IMF missions to Russia since the start of Russia’s war in Ukraine.“
From what I recall, Putin inherited over a 100 billion dollar debt tag thanks to Yelstin.
Putin paid off by 2005.
Quite a feat.
Abstract
“On January 31, Russia ceased being one of the IMF’s five largest debtor countries when it repaid its remaining $3.33 billion debt. “Russia’s ability to repay the IMF ahead of schedule reflects its strong fiscal and balance of payments position against a background of high oil prices,” said IMF Managing Director Rodrigo de Rato. The loans had been contracted under a 1996 Extended Arrangement totaling about $20.1 billion, of which Russia had drawn about $8.8 billion. Under the original repayment schedule, final payment would have been due in 2008.
On January 31, Russia ceased being one of the IMF’s five largest debtor countries when it repaid its remaining $3.33 billion debt. “Russia’s ability to repay the IMF ahead of schedule reflects its strong fiscal and balance of payments position against a background of high oil prices,” said IMF Managing Director Rodrigo de Rato. The loans had been contracted under a 1996 Extended Arrangement totaling about $20.1 billion, of which Russia had drawn about $8.8 billion. Under the original repayment schedule, final payment would have been due in 2008.
On the same day it paid off the debt, Russia became a subscriber to the IMF’s Special Data Dissemination Standard (SDDS). Created in 1996 by the IMF, the SDDS helps guide countries that have, or might seek, access to international capital markets in providing timely and comprehensive economic and financial data to the public.”
Then West tried to kick Russia out from it SDRs and steal interest earned there.
https://www.elibrary.imf.org/view/journals/023/0034/002/article-A004-en.xml
The only “freedom” is zero debt. The Russian people have a lot to be grateful for with Putin at helm, and other very savy people that were able to do their jobs that they specialize in without “liberal values” and “right think” infecting every financial decision. At least “limiting” corruption helps too.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 3 2024 20:12 utc | 170

Also: “Until February 24, 2022, Britta was a graduate student at the National University of Kyiv Mohyla Academy in their flagship Anticorruption Studies program.”
Wow, just wow.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 3 2024 20:13 utc | 171

BLOCKQUOTE>Posted by: Micron | Sep 3 2024 20:00 utc | 165< Why so much butt-hurt? If you are so sure things are bad for Russia – relax and be happy. Why it ever bothers you what MoA thinks?

Posted by: Poslan1 | Sep 3 2024 20:18 utc | 172

*GW@75……it was Radar and Comms training centre, it must have been under a bridge if Russia just found it now….tis a SlogMow kinda thing. Russia finds all these neat Ukie military centres like the one in Odessa 3 mths ago….did you say something about Russian Intelligence…..it’s lacking.
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 3 2024 18:19 utc | 118″
1. Maybe the training centers get moved around. Just because radar/comms training was in Poltova yesterday doesn’t mean that’s where it was 6 months ago.
2. Priorities: 1st address the threat right in FRONT of you; then the ones en route (eg train stations like they were hitting for the last 2 years; only after those 2 are eliminated do you focus on the ones in training.
At least, that’s the order I’d take it in. Ymmv …

Posted by: Mary | Sep 3 2024 20:18 utc | 173

@Blue Angel | Sep 3 2024 20:06 utc | 166

This Swedish nafo Lady i. m. o. *had* to write/say her account had been hacked because some Swedish/nato security guys told her to do: They simply can´t let this disastrous story getting known by a broader public.

She may be Swedish, but the “forPEACE” [front?] organization is based in
13899 Redberry Fox Cove
Bluffdale, Utah 84065
USA
https://forpeace.us/
Other than that I agree they are trying to erase their tracks.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 20:19 utc | 174

Didn’t Trump brag about staying in Syria and that we’re only there to be taking their oil?
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins @ 162
Yeh, that’s the trouble with Trump, what doesn’t he brag about, and why I would never vote for him, not that I’d vote for anyone, except maybe George Carlin but he’s too cool to run, and dead. Who wants a president that’s impossible to get a read on, that’s a part of Trump’s schtick too, he does it on purpose, learned it early on, so everyone he meets goes away happy having heard what they wanted. A mark of a con man.
I do remember he talked strongly about getting out of Syria, and wasn’t it during his admin when the CIA proxies wound up in a serious battle with the Pentagon proxies? I think the CIA bombed the Pentagon. I saw it as a neocon vs Pentagon internecine battle, “should I stay or should I go” in the words of The Clash. Stay won.
I clearly remember insider talk form someone like Macgregor or Wilkerson saying Trump had given the order to get out in short order, bug out in a few months, but yeh, at the same time he was saying isn’t it terrific that we are taking their oil. MAGA YAGA GAGA.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 20:20 utc | 175

“You could look at NATO as a kind of insurance company. A country pays a fee to the US, and in return the US provides a security guarantee.”

well, sort of, but it’s not exactly like that
More precise
Washington burns houses at night, and sells insurance during the day

Posted by: Simon | Sep 3 2024 20:22 utc | 176

@ Paul from Norway | Sep 3 2024 18:38 utc | 129
Yes, THAT kind of “peace”
https://forpeace.us/ukraine-relief-project-blog/2023/8/8/a-portrait-of-a-starlink-delivery
Delivering starlink terminals to the Ukrainian army …

Posted by: DS | Sep 3 2024 20:24 utc | 177

Posted by: Mo | Sep 3 2024 19:07 utc | 140
##############
I can’t tell if you’re a child or if you’re trying to troll the bar.
Propaganda is par for the course during war. Everyone engages in it.
Britta seems like a real piece of work, regardless of what posts were made in her name.
What is more important is the number of ambulances that were rushed to the hotel location after impact, whether they were Swedes or transgender American “beauty” queens. Russia can and will reach out and touch its enemies anywhere inside of Ukraine.
Want to live? Stay in your home country.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2024 20:27 utc | 178

RE: “There are different speculations why Putin **rushed to Mongolia, but from historic perspective…
Posted by: Arioch | Sep 3 2024 19:20 utc | 148
Not sure why there are “speculations” of a “rushed” Mongolian visit. Obviously coordinated and planned awhile back. IMF nonsense to handle.
Putin isn’t “rushing” anywhere. He’s the President of BRICS and there is a lot to tie up and coordinate b4 October meeting.
The medieval history is just that. History. The BRI, SCO, BRICS is the focus, the future. All was probably planned in 2023 before he assumed office of BRICS.
Some leaders actually think a whole week before necessary to coordinate & sign documents, unlike the West that can’t plan anything but the destruction or color revolution against some nation somewhere, see’s other Nations movements and contracts as “out of the blue”.
Anyways, IMO, Putin isn’t “rushing” around. It’s just business.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 3 2024 20:28 utc | 179

Other than that I agree they are trying to erase their tracks.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 20:19 utc | 174
Ska vi se om nyheten hittar en plats i Aftonhoran imorgon?
This is a classic case of Swedish-style virtue signaling (sorry, I leaked the Nazi) gone wrong in the eyes of the overlords. Sweden loves to hate Russians. At the same time we’re terrified of fighting them. The situation in the Seventies was more or less the reverse. (Though, to be honest, Swedes have always bordered on a pathological hate for Russians. I’m shamed to say it but I won’t lie.)

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 3 2024 20:29 utc | 180

Posted by: Micron | Sep 3 2024 20:00 utc | 165
##########
Pedantic arguments won’t do anything about the statements of frontline Nazi troops in the Donbass or MPs in the Ukrainian Rada crying about the loss of territory.
That the Russian MOD reports estimating losses (aka battle damage assessments) can be discounted but the massive losses of territory by the Nazi “defenders” is not up for dispute.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 3 2024 20:30 utc | 181

Posted by: Arioch | Sep 3 2024 19:20 utc | 148
Meant “ICC”… not “IMF”, I’m certain Mongolia was very assertive in checking all the legalities & crossing their T’s about it all. That takes time and planning as well. Just don’t see a “rush” or reason for rush.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 3 2024 20:32 utc | 182

Also, the top banner image at https://forpeace.us/ shows a Ukrainian flag but also people holding up signs written in Hebrew?
Yeah..

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 20:34 utc | 183

Tichy | Sep 3 2024 19:56 utc | 161

Yes, it’s rather incredible. There are two wings of Nazis in Sweden. One supports the Ukraine and the other supports Russia.

Fitta !

Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 3 2024 20:35 utc | 184

Ask Olof Palme. Oh, wait…
At that time, I was living in Paris and frequently travelling to Stockholm. My Swedish friends were throwing lots of parties.
The papers put out a photo of the alleged “suspect”. My younger brother in the UK was convinced that I shot Palme. I was not in Sweden at the time. I gave up trying to convince him.
It was obviously a Mossad job as Sweden changed its foreign policy completely after that event. Palme was a champion of Palestine.

Posted by: Alfred (Hurghada) | Sep 3 2024 20:36 utc | 185

@ Mo | Sep 3 2024 19:07 utc | 140
Yes, it seems it’s a fake, as I have already posted here.
However, it is true that she and here friends have/had an active role in the war, by providing and transporting to the front starlink terminals and EW equipment.
Check her twitter posts and https://forpeace.us/bios/britta-ellwanger
Not innocent

Posted by: DS | Sep 3 2024 20:38 utc | 186

@Tichy | Sep 3 2024 20:29 utc | 180

Ska vi se om nyheten hittar en plats i Aftonhoran imorgon?

If so, up to you to report then, I don’t read Swedish MSM (hardly Norwegian MSM either). If there were Swedish casualties it may not be so easy to hide.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 20:41 utc | 187

Fitta !
Posted by: Sarlat La Canède | Sep 3 2024 20:35 utc | 184
The eloquence. How can I even dare to reply.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 3 2024 20:42 utc | 188

If so, up to you to report then, I don’t read Swedish MSM (hardly Norwegian MSM either). If there were Swedish casualties it may not be so easy to hide.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 20:41 utc | 187
I get so pissed off I haven’t owned a television for over twenty years, I only take pictures of the posters for kicks now and then. Hard to hide? We’ve entered a new era. What I meant by “virtue signal gone wrong” is that this girl seemingly didn’t even take the time to check with her bosses what can be conveyed or not. Only her feelings mattered. Actually her sorrow over his death and what she could milk out of it was more important than his death itself. I don’t expect the other professionals involved to be quite that idiotic.
(I’ll obviously tell if it’s reported in case I’m allowed to post, but if that happens I think you’ll all know.)

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 3 2024 20:52 utc | 189

If Dima is correct, and although he often hypes “important developments” that often seem less so, I think he usually reflects Russian setbacks honestly, in addition to the devastating strike on Poltava, Russian forces are rolling up territory at a much faster pace in southern Donetsk oblast with a lot of cauldrons percolating. A large pocket is closing between roughly Selydove in the north to Kurakhove in the south that should squeeze out the Ukrainian strongholds in the fields and villages to the east through a town called Hirnyk. There are many other places along the line of contact taking a massive pounding from missile attacks, awaiting ground clearance. It does feel like something has changed with today’s events. I guess we’ll see in a week or so if this marks a collapse. I’m guessing the Ukies will make a big last stand in Pokrovsk.

Posted by: KMRIA | Sep 3 2024 20:56 utc | 190

Trubind1 @ 170

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/imf-to-send-first-mission-to-russia-since-ukraine-invasion

Wow, what a intriguing crazy find. That’s why I hang here.
It’ll take a while to parse that, reinforces Honzo @ 104. Implies WW3 isn’t around the corner, which is good, right?

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 20:57 utc | 191

Ukrainska Pravda, citing sources in Zelensky’s office, reports that Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba will be dismissed and likely replaced by First Deputy Foreign Minister Andrii Sybiha.
Earlier today, Davyd Arakhamia, head of the “Servant of the People” faction in the Verkhovna Rada, stated that more than half of the Cabinet is expected to be replaced.
DDGeopolitics

Posted by: Apollyon | Sep 3 2024 20:59 utc | 192

There are reports that a lot of key ministers of Zelensky’s cabinet have submitter their resignations.
If this is true, then it most likely means the FUKUS is pulling the rug under Zelensky and planning to replace him with another placeholder, maybe that Avakov guy or whoever was the ex-interior minister they planned to use.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 20:59 utc | 193

The Mental Software of Our Masters
It is irelevant whether it is installed on Swedish, British or Turkish-Persian-Italian Hardware
The fusion of the Old Testament and the Roman imperial ideology is simply perfect because let us not forget that the Romans thought that they were the chosen ones by the gods to dominate the world, and they were fond of making great massacres, so when they read the Book of Joshua and the Book of Deuteronomy, they said:
-OMFG, this is indeed the true religion

Posted by: Simon | Sep 3 2024 21:00 utc | 194

“More precise
Washington burns houses at night, and sells insurance during the day
Posted by: Simon | Sep 3 2024 20:22 utc | 176”
It’s a protection racket. Mafia & gangs work that way.

Posted by: Mary | Sep 3 2024 21:00 utc | 195

Hei Norwegian
Hytte på Hvaler- kaffe en dag
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 3 2024 18:30 utc | 124
Jag har varit i Hvaler en gång med ett par franska vänner. Vackert land !

Posted by: Franslannen | Sep 3 2024 21:01 utc | 196

Hum… rough day for Ukraine, guessing training center hit made lots of folks afraid:
Posts(for a laugh) today:
Ukraine arms chief, ***two ministers resign in government shake-up
***Three Ukrainian ministers and State Property Fund head submit resignations
Ukraine arms chief, ***four ministers resign in government shake-up
Wonder what final tally will be by the morning? Maybe LOTR “Fly, you fools”…beginning to make sense.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 3 2024 21:01 utc | 197

@159
“Sweden was the not-so-surprising victim of a conspiracy between Great Britain and Russia in the 19th Century.”
Are you referring to the Russo-Swedish War of 1808-09, through which Russia annexed Finland? If so, the conspiracy involved France and Russia, not Great Britain.
Napoleon and Tsar Alexander made a deal in 1807, in which France would allow Russia to conquer Finland in return for a consideration of some sort. I don’t remember the specifics of this pact, but it was definitely intended to undermine England’s influence in world affairs.
The 1809 war was Sweden’s last. As for the Franco-Russian rapprochement, it fell apart by 1810, followed by Napoleon’s invasion of Russia in 1812.
Interestingly, during the Crimea War of 1853-56, Great Britain tried to persuade Sweden to enter the war against Russia. The British even promised Sweden the return of Finland, but the Swedes weren’t impressed and remained neutral.

Posted by: GW | Sep 3 2024 21:07 utc | 198

Roger 51
”Russian drones seem to be able to operate with little EW interference”.
Russian starts using fiber-optic drones with a range up to 5km (See Forbes, Simplicius), some says up to 10km.
So no EW interference, clear vision till the target.

Posted by: FromFrance | Sep 3 2024 21:11 utc | 199

Interesting…??? Good read…
On the other hand, could all be US/West garbage nonsense.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/09/03/russia-nuclear-cruise-missile-burevestnik-skyfall/
“On Monday, Reuters reported my discovery that Russia is building what appears to be the first deployment site for its experimental nuclear-powered cruise missile, the Burevestnik—which the United States calls the SSC-X-9 Skyfall. *****The facility is almost complete, suggesting that the new missile may enter service with the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces soon.
The site is located at a nuclear warhead storage facility, reportedly called Vologda-20,***** roughly 400 miles from Russia’s borders with Finland and Estonia, ***and contains nine fixed launch positions supported by missile-handling facilities and nuclear warhead storage bunkers. With the launch positions, missiles, and warheads all present at the same site, it’s likely that the Burevestnik will be an on-alert missile ready to launch at a moment’s notice.
There is significant hype surrounding the Burevestnik: U.S. officials have decried Russia’s development of “radiation-spewing, nuclear-powered cruise missiles” and called the system a “flying Chernobyl.” Unlike standard cruise missiles, which are powered by jet engines, the Burevestnik uses an unshielded nuclear reactor for propulsion. This gives it the ability to fly almost unlimited distances, at least in theory.”
?. ..Well, Sweden should consider its weapons donations a bit more carefully.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 3 2024 21:11 utc | 200