Ukraine - Russian Missile Strike Hits Swedish Instructors
A Russian missile strike on the Ukrainian Military Institute of Communications in Poltava has at least killed 41 and wounded two hundreds. Other sources claim higher numbers.
Poltava is about 120 kilometer from the Russian border. The warning times after the missile launch was allegedly too short for everyone to reach the bunkers.
The Institute of Communications is training radio and radar operators. Its main multi-story building has been completely destroyed.
Britta Ellwanger, a (former?) Swedish volunteer with the Ukrainian army wrote that Swedish friends of hers, also volunteering with the Ukrainian army, were among those who died in the strike.
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Sweden had promised to gift two Swedish AWACS planes to Ukraine:
Sweden has announced sending its Saab 340B AEW&C (Airborne Early Warning and Control) aircraft to Kyiv, as per an announcement made by its defense ministry on May 29, 2024.
Given the nature of the Institute of Communications in Poltava it is likely that the Swedes were training Ukrainian operators for those.
One wonders why the training was not held elsewhere.
The Swedes should have remembered the history of that city:
The Battle of Poltava[e] (8 July 1709) was the decisive and largest battle of the Great Northern War. The Russian army under the command of Tsar Peter I defeated the Swedish army under the command of Carl Gustaf Rehnskiöld. The battle put an end to the status of the Swedish Empire as a European great power, as well as its eastbound expansion, and marked the beginning of Russian supremacy in eastern Europe.
Swedish and NATO attempts to change that status of Russia in eastern Europe more than 300 years after it had been achieved has ended in failure.
Posted by b on September 3, 2024 at 14:51 UTC | Permalink
next page »> Poltava is about 120 kilometer from the Russian border.
According to the results released by the Russian Central Election Commission through its sections in the DPR and the LPR, 99.23% (2,116,800 voters) supported the annexation in Donetsk and 98.42% (1,636,302 voters) in Luhansk. The turnouts were 97.51% (2,131,207 voters) and 94.15% (1,662,607 voters), respectively.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_annexation_referendums_in_Russian-occupied_Ukraine#Results
Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 15:01 utc | 2
thanks b....
i don't understand why sweden decided after all these years to join nato... what convinced them of the stupidity in that??
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:04 utc | 3
I guess the Russians are off the list of their Nobel Peace Prize. How ironic!!
Posted by: Wolvoka | Sep 3 2024 15:06 utc | 4
Last time the swedes tried to screw with Russia they lost a royal house, and a third of their lands.
They should be more careful.
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 3 2024 15:11 utc | 5
James - There’s money in them there Nato hills and Swede and Finn corporations and MICIMATT were tired of missing out on their “fair share” … and the public were naturally easy to stampede along.
Posted by: Caliman | Sep 3 2024 15:13 utc | 6
i don't understand why sweden decided after all these years to join nato... what convinced them of the stupidity in that??
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:04 utc | 3
Co-opted politicians, that's how you make serious changes without asking the population.
In normal times no country would enter nato without a serious discussion, now it is presented as a fait accompli .
Same goes for wars , etc.
Change the government until you get the one who'll do your bidding and then lock in a situation hard to reverse.
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 3 2024 15:15 utc | 7
What a cunt this Britta is...
Kom får ni titta....
Brittas Fitta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLTI2JFwZjw
Posted by: Trond | Sep 3 2024 15:15 utc | 8
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:04 utc | 3
Being a dirty minded guy I think they were promised to have a say on the destiny of the 'defeated' Russia.
Jumping on the winner chariot give advantages.
They possibly jumped too early. 😉
Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 15:15 utc | 9
About time!!
Make any missile hit the collaborators.
It is high time Russia starts killing NATO forces.
Posted by: g wiltek | Sep 3 2024 15:18 utc | 10
Why Sweden joined NATO? Sufficient to say that the (((Bonnier))) family chose to do so to support the (((neocons)))
Posted by: Simpleton | Sep 3 2024 15:21 utc | 13
Posted by: g wiltek | Sep 3 2024 15:18 utc | 10
It appears that in the last two weeks RF targeted quite a handful of foreign accumulation sites. 😉
Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 15:21 utc | 14
The west is determined to win the war. Or they want to force Russia to use the nuclear weapons.
WASHINGTON, Sept 3 (Reuters) - The U.S. is close to an agreement to give Ukraine long-range cruise missiles that could reach deep into Russia, but Kyiv would need to wait several months as the U.S. works through technical issues ahead of any shipment, U.S. officials said.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 3 2024 15:22 utc | 15
A year ago I guesstimated ~50,000 sheep dipped NATO were fighting in the Ukrainian Civil War. (Thanks Ed4 for reminding me)
Suspect it’s now at least 100,000 sheep dipped NATO .
Posted by: Exile | Sep 3 2024 15:26 utc | 16
Was it the swedes or the danish that had swasticas painted on their planes back in the day?
Doesnt matter, its clear what the ideology of eu and their partners is.
Germany not opposed in principle on attacks on russia.
Once a nazi, always a nazi.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 3 2024 15:27 utc | 17
Posted by: vargas | Sep 3 2024 15:22 utc | 15
Ask yourself if you can win a war postponing critical decision for several month.
The window of opportunity, if it ever existed, for the west to win the war was before the 2023 Ukraine counteroffensive with afu at their maximum strength manpower+weapons.
They didn't or couldn't act on the opportunity and now they are in a worst position.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 15:29 utc | 18
"[W]hy the training was not held elsewhere?"
That's a very sensible question since so many training centers become targets thanks to intel developed by Russians. Show up at a hotel for a meeting and before the meeting ends the hotel gets flattened. I'll bet humint provided the details for this specific strike. And with Iskander production increased, they are being used almost daily; the direct hits on solitary Himars are impressive.
This event is yet further evidence that Russia is at war with NATO. Supposedly, the reason given for US refusal of permission for Ukraine to launch deeper strikes into Russia is that Russia in turn will target Ukraine's deep rear which is located in other nations--Poland and Romania most specifically--and thus enlarge the war which NATO can't win. And we should be clear about the status of NATO troops within Ukraine--they're NATO troops, not mercs, and Russia's keen to eliminate them.
@ caliman, newbie and mario on my question...
thanks! all of your responses make sense!! trying to make sense of nonsense is tricky, and maybe impossible... human nature is one contradictory mess!
it seems really apparent to me that nato caused this war in ukraine/russia and nato is going to have to come to terms with it too..
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:32 utc | 20
Swedish and NATO attempts to change that status of Russia in eastern Europe more than 300 years after it had been achieved has ended in failure.Sweden is a brother nation, but this kind of evil stupidity is inexcusable. If you mess around like this, do not expect sympathy when you get hit.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 15:33 utc | 21
@Wolvoka | Sep 3 2024 15:06 utc | 4
I guess the Russians are off the list of their Nobel Peace Prize. How ironic!!The Nobel Peace Price is issued in Norway, but yes.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 15:35 utc | 22
Sweden used to provide sanctuary for Americans unwilling to fight in Vietnam.
Now they are paid and bought by the US.
They deserve to be shot!
Posted by: g wiltek | Sep 3 2024 15:39 utc | 23
Ukrainian sources report 200 'military students' dead in Poltava, which could imply several hundred more wounded. That is a jackpot for RUAF, which could also be sufficient to put a dent on future plans, whether it is continuation of the Kursk offensive, defending Pokrovsk, a new attack from Orekhov or something else.
Several other targets were hit last night as well, including the Grand Palace hotel in Zaporozhye and something in Dnipro, no doubt housing more foreign mercs.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 15:40 utc | 24
Justpassinby@17
It was the Finns that used the Swastika on their planes...
Posted by: Simpleton | Sep 3 2024 15:40 utc | 25
By the way, Britta Ellwanger stated on twitter that the post was faked
https://x.com/diddabee/status/1830987810322702640?s=61
It is possible that Ellwanger, on second thought, decided to erase the post and now claims that someone faked it, but I think it is fair if B at least acknowledges this fact
Posted by: DS | Sep 3 2024 15:41 utc | 26
i don't understand why sweden decided after all these years to join nato... what convinced them of the stupidity in that??
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:04 utc | 3
______
Ask Olof Palme. Oh, wait…
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 3 2024 15:43 utc | 27
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 15:33 utc | 21
Being someone's brother usually implies sharing the same genes and inherited traits, like stupidity, for example.
Just keep t.f. calm and wait for your turn, OK?
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Sep 3 2024 15:45 utc | 28
@ DS | Sep 3 2024 15:41 utc | 26
thanks for sharing that bit of info.. so has it been ascertained that swedish members did indeed die in all this?? if so, then the source becomes less important..
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:46 utc | 29
@ malenkov | Sep 3 2024 15:43 utc | 27
a lot of folks don't know anything about olof palme, but yes - i do and that is a very good reminder of the longer history here.. thanks.
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:46 utc | 30
Like all the Baltic States but in particular the nazi Finnish land, the Swedish will go under the rabbit hole, like rats; eat the US of A infamous venom red pill and die. No one told them to become part of NATO.
b, casualties are higher. But let's wait for the enemy mass media such as the CNN and BBC in the collective waste to do its dirty job of revealing or rather hidding the colossal damage caused by the unshakable Russian missile.
Kursk death count now exceeds 9,600 KIA.
Posted by: AI | Sep 3 2024 15:48 utc | 31
i don't understand why sweden decided after all these years to join nato... what convinced them of the stupidity in that??
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:04 utc | 3
Easy.
Look for membership in the "Young Global Leaders" Club.
They are all rabidly TRANSATLANTIC and NATO.
political "cold turkey" will show in the coming years.
Posted by: MAKK | Sep 3 2024 15:48 utc | 32
Posted by: AI | Sep 3 2024 15:48 utc | 31
Was watching local medias who usually are very eager to repeat every grain of BS from the Kiev regime. Complete silence regarding Ukraine now.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 15:50 utc | 33
@ MAKK | Sep 3 2024 15:48 utc | 32
yeah, we suffer from that wef stupidity here in canada too with our leaders coming out of that same 'groupthink' ideology..
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:51 utc | 34
Europeans as a whole.
Need to think carefully about the politicians that they have elected or as people here say been presented with.
Another point that the appointment of women into the political system.
Things haven't changed for the better.
Wasn't that the idea take the testosterone out of the bodypolitik.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 3 2024 15:51 utc | 35
@ unimperator | Sep 3 2024 15:50 utc | 33
here is how the bbc are reporting it so far..
Number killed rises to 50, regional head says
published at 16:38 British Summer Time
16:38 BST
Breaking
The Poltova regional head Philip Pronin, speaking on Ukrainian TV, says 50 people have been killed in the attack, and more than 235 have been injured.
He says another 15 people are believed to be still trapped under the rubble.
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:53 utc | 37
@ james | Sep 3 2024 15:46 utc | 29
Checking on her twitter profile - I don’t have Facebook - it seems that yes there Swedes among the killed.
It seems true that she cooperated in some form to the Ukrainian war effort. She cites friends that delivered things to the military, among which EW equipment.
But I wouldn’t know much more about it, though.
Cheers
Posted by: DS | Sep 3 2024 15:55 utc | 38
The latest estimates on the Pokrovsk attack put the losses at 600 - reported by a Ukrainian Rada deputy so probably still an underestimate. Some possibilities that there were specialist Swedish instructors there for the Swedish AWACS that are planned to be supplied to Ukraine.
Dima noted that the Russian production of Iskander has ramped up and allowed them to be deployed to lower echelon levels, at the artillery brigade level with launch approval made at the tactical level. This reduces the time between a target identified and an Iskander launched, and increases the possible number of targets. The Ukrainian rear areas near the front now become much more vulnerable to such strikes, making it harder for the Ukrainians to concentrate forces.
At 8.55 on the military summary video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Qw0N4Wmug
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 3 2024 15:31 utc | 19
According to Dima, Russia has increased production of Iskander so much each batallion will have its own Iskander unit.
Posted by: horseguards | Sep 3 2024 15:56 utc | 40
@ DS | Sep 3 2024 15:55 utc | 38
thanks! i am sorry to hear of the dead and wish this madness that nato is responsible for ends sooner then later...
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 15:57 utc | 41
Posted by: jpc | Sep 3 2024 15:51 utc | 35
Often women are more belligerants than men.
Women in power positions, in corporates, are often hatred both from men and women but more by the women.
It's not about men or women, is about the right person for the job be a man or a woman make no difference.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 15:58 utc | 42
Posted by: Roger | Sep 3 2024 15:56 utc | 39
600 is significant. It means a few hundred '200' and several hundred '300' designations.
This will put a significant dent in any future plans with domestic AFU meat shield supply drying up.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 15:59 utc | 43
Sweet irony post the Swedes getting their asses whopped by Peter the Great, features the defeated Svensker King Karl den Tolvte (Charles the Twelfth) some few years after he managed with part of his staff to escape the debacle into fairly nearby Turkish territory in their then portion of what is now called Ukraine.
From his stay in Istanbul, the Swedish king made it back to Stockholm. He refused to halt his imperialist/colonialist land-grabbing ambitions and assaulted Norway in an attack on their Danish developed fortress town of Fredericksburg. Leading from the front, as was his wont, Konung Karl XII met his Waterloo, almost exactly a hundred from the more famous one in 1815...at the hands of a Norwegian sniper.
Upon Karl's demise, it was not improbable that the Swedish forces breathed a sigh of relief and retreated back to their own lands. Thus, the final curtain-call for Sweden as a European great power. In general, Swedes are not so stubborn as to get their heads knocked more than twice in order to come to their senses. However, currently being ruled by their long corrupted "Nobility" and a handful of hyper-wealthy industrialist clans...the Svenskers gave up their storied neutrality and jumped into the maelstrom of NATO insanity...along with the usually more sensible Finns.
Never did I realize that the Swedish educational system is nearly as corrupted as the one here in the $tates. Apparently their history curriculum is such that they do not perceive the lessons of their own national history...oh well, it has been over 300 years and Swedes are considered even here in my northern Minnesota county, one with quite the Scandihoovian blend of original settlers; that Swedes have a reputation of being stubbornly stoopid.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 3 2024 15:59 utc | 44
Now that I have included the Kursk front in the Ukrainian loss numbers it becomes obvious where all the tanks, IFV, APC, light armoured vehicles, MLRS etc. went. Now even the Kursk front is short of such things. Zelensky seems desperate to keep the incursion going for propaganda reasons (400 more Ukrainian casualties there in the latest report), and also on the hope that some Western nation will allow him to strike deep into Russia (a massive red line that could then lead to strikes on Poland, Romania etc.). The neocons seem to be slowly moving the dial on this one in the US, more and more desperate to escalate as Ukraine gives way.
Life's a bitch when you decide to join, very late in the day, an alliance engaged in a proxy war with your neighbor.
Poltava, can the irony for the Swedes be any thicker...?
Posted by: Dakota Rog | Sep 3 2024 16:02 utc | 46
Is it not curious how the Swedes want to make war on Russia but are complete pussies when it comes to their own country and culture being overun and destroyed because their US-zionist masters say it must be so?
Posted by: Áobh Ó'Sheachnasaigh | Sep 3 2024 16:04 utc | 47
@g wiltek | Sep 3 2024 15:39 utc | 23
Sweden used to provide sanctuary for Americans unwilling to fight in Vietnam.That was the times of Tage Erlander and Olof Palme. Guess who got shot: Olof Palme
Now they are paid and bought by the US.
They deserve to be shot!
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 16:04 utc | 48
In the Aftonbladet there is no mention of dead Swedes in Poltava, only usual propagand on the “barbaric Russian terrorist attack”.
Not that much more should be expected.
Posted by: DS | Sep 3 2024 16:05 utc | 49
@ThirdWorldDude | Sep 3 2024 15:45 utc | 28
Just keep t.f. calm and wait for your turn, OK?Do not attack others, OK?
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 16:07 utc | 50
Now including Kursk front losses, Ukrainian losses for September 3rd, as reported by the Russian defence ministry. This does not include losses away from the front line, for example the hit on the Pokrovsk concentration of forces:
- Russia Kursk front: 400 troops, 12 LAV/HMV, 12 motor vehicles, 3 artillery pieces, 1 MLRS, 1 EW system
- Sever Group (Kharkov): 150 troops, 1 tank, 1 LAV/HMV, 3 motor vehicles, 1 MLRS.
- Zapad Group (Luhansk area): 450 troops, 2 motor vehicles, 4 artillery pieces.
- Yug Group (Donetsk north): 710 troops, 6 motor vehicles, 4 artillery pieces, 1 EW system.
- Tsetr Group (Donetsk south): 490 troops, 4 LAV/ HMV, 3 motor vehicles, 2 artillery pieces.
- Vostok Group (southern front): 150 troops, 3 motor vehicles, 2 artillery piece.
- Dnepr Group: 60 troops, 2 motor vehicles, 1 artillery piece.
In total: 2,410 troops (about 2,500 to 3,000 with undercounting: 75,000 to 90,000 a month). Above average.
1 tank, 17 HMV/Light Armoured Vehicle (12 in Kursk), 31 motor vehicles (12 in Kursk). Further evidence of the transformation of the Ukrainians to an infantry using HMV/light armoured vehicles, “technicals” (pickup trucks with mounted weapons), and civilian vehicles for mobility. Even becoming true in the Kursk front, the Ukrainian reserves of armoured vehicles now seem to be very significantly spent.
2 MLRS (1 in Kursk), 16 artillery pieces (3 in Kursk), below average, at a rate of about 500 a month. 2 EW systems (1 in Kursk). These are still catastrophic daily loss levels of such valuable systems, but also point to a depletion of Ukrainian artillery and specialist systems.
Total losses so far for the Ukrainians in the Kursk front have been 9,300 troops, 80 tanks, 38 IFV, 70 APC, 561 LAV/HMV, 273 motor vehicles, 68 artillery pieces, 20 MLRS, 17 EW systems, 7 counter-battery systems
In addition, the Russians have become adept at shooting down and jamming Ukrainian (i.e. Western manufactured) guided bombs, missiles, rockets and the mostly locally-made drones. It has been noted in the Pokrovsk area that Russian drones seem to be able to operate with little EW interference. The rate at which the Russians are destroying the Ukrainians EW systems is extremely high.
horseguards | Sep 3 2024 15:56 utc | 40--
Thanks for your reply. Yes, the increasing numbers of himars being hit is a result of that improvement. Many months ago, I opined Russia needed to increase and deepen its drone surveillance with them tied to specific artillery/rocket units so once a target was discovered it could be attacked very swiftly. That sort of improvement has clearly occurred. However, IMO given the intel, the Poltava hit was done using two missiles fired by a unit at a higher command level. Of course, that doesn't matter to those on the receiving end. I thought the message was made clear last year that no place in Ukraine is safe enough to gather large concentrations of people in the rear; they are far too easy to spot and target.
@aristodemos | Sep 3 2024 15:59 utc | 44
Leading from the front, as was his wont, Konung Karl XII met his Waterloo, almost exactly a hundred from the more famous one in 1815...at the hands of a Norwegian sniper.Yes, in the town of my birth, Halden
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 16:14 utc | 53
Posted by: DS | Sep 3 2024 16:05 utc | 49
Same with every other major Swedish news outlet - SVT, Expressen, DN.
Though, as usual, obituaries don't lie.
Let's wait for a few days and see what the following Kübler-Ross stages have to offer...
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Sep 3 2024 16:15 utc | 54
So a building in 404, comms training centre no less, close to Russia's border and Russia strikes it now, wtf, okay, guys, yeah, I know, the Russians knew the Swedes would be there in 2 1/2 years, like a cat in the night, they waited.
No wonder the fucking thing, death machine that it is, just slogs along.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 3 2024 16:19 utc | 55
Posted by: vargas | Sep 3 2024 15:22 utc | 15
I don't claim to understand Russia very well, but I understand US politics. This is a DC "can kick" move meant to keep Ukrainian morale up, and an illusory promise.
A few months => after the US election, when a new administration will need to make any final decisions on important matters. So this effectively is a non-decision, a punt that will be handled by either the Harris or Trump team.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 3 2024 16:23 utc | 56
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 3 2024 16:19 utc | 55
C'mon that's just cheap. They get a lot of up-to-date information and HUMINT recon from the ground (within). They strike buildings as they are discovered to be utilized by Nato/AFU. You would probably prefer to strike unutilized/empty buildings?
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 16:23 utc | 57
The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine received resignation statements from:- the head of the Ministry of Strategic Industry Kamyshin
- the head of the Ministry of Justice Maliuska
- the head of the Ministry of Ecology Strelets
- the head of the State Property Fund KovalAccording to the speaker of the Verkhovna Rada Stefanchuk, the applications will be considered at one of the next plenary sessions.
no link
Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 16:24 utc | 58
"Denmark may anticipate a revival of its centuries-old ammo making tradition no sooner than 2027."
That's OK, then.
Posted by: horseguards | Sep 3 2024 16:24 utc | 59
🇷🇺🇺🇦 Strike at the communications training center in Poltavahttps://t.me/Slavyangrad/107857Today September 3, 2024 at about 9:10 am two loud explosions sounded in Poltava. According to local residents' reports, there was heavy smoke at the site. Also recorded active movement of ambulances and firefighters in the direction of Zinkovskaya street.
🔻 At the moment it is established that the Russian troops struck ballistic missiles on the territory of the 179 training center of the communication troops (in / h / A3990) in Poltava on Zinkovskaya Street, 44.
Coordinates: 49.6139970232641, 34.53098387305029
As a result of a direct hit on the six-story training and administrative building more than 30 personnel were killed, about 60 more were wounded of varying degrees of severity. At the moment, rescue operations are underway.
📌 At the moment, information about urgent blood donation in Poltava is spreading in the network.
In continuation of the results of the strike on the 179th training center of the communications troops (military unit A3990) in Poltava, at the moment the numbers of destroyed personnel continue to grow (33 - 200; 89 - 300).https://t.me/Slavyangrad/107869📌 The video confirms previously received information: one of the missiles hit the building of the educational and administrative building directly. Another one destroyed the canteen building on the territory of the facility.
“Big trouble”, “more than a hundred corpses”: attack on Ukrainian Armed Forces formation, many deadhttps://t.me/Slavyangrad/107871▪️"In Poltava, I believe, there are more than a hundred corpses. Arrivals both in formation and in the canteen. There is just a mess there.
▪️179th training center of the communications troops (military unit A3990) in Poltava, 44 Zinkivska Street.
▪️How soldiers are deliberately set up, and this despite the fact that there are no people at the front,” wrote Ukrainian journalist A. Shariy.
▪️"A big problem," commented military communications specialist of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Sergei Flesh.
In addition to a large number of Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen, several foreign instructors from Sweden were killed during the missile strike on the communications training center in Poltava.https://t.me/Slavyangrad/107899This was stated by Britta Ellwanger, a foreign volunteer working in the interests of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and studying with the deceased instructor at one of the Swedish universities.
Let us recall that it was Sweden that planned to supply two ASC 890 AWACS aircraft, the training of whose onboard personnel corresponds to the profile of the training center.
The missile strike in Poltava took on new colours.
⚡️🇺🇦💥POLTAVA HOSPITALS JAM-PACKED WITH SOLDIERS AFTER RUSSIAN STRIKE: Poltava City Council Chief Kaplin admits chaos reigns in Central Ukrainian region (vid above), with overcrowded hospitals filled with wounded troops after pinpoint Russian strike blasts army infrastructure in city (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/41112).https://t.me/Slavyangrad/107907#Kiev officials claim 49 troops killed and 219 wounded, but Ukrainian sources on the ground insist death toll as high as 190 even as Mad Vlad #Zelensky tries to clamp down on concrete info regarding HUGE army loss.
🇸🇪Reports that Swedish "instructors" among soldiers killed in Russian strike, allegedly working to train Kiev cannon fodder pilots on Swedish-supplied AWACS aircraft (https://t.me/IntelRepublic/37882).
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 16:25 utc | 60
It's not about men or women, is about the right person for the job be a man or a woman make no difference.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 15:58 utc | 42
Completely true, and the issue is that lack of "the right person for the job"
Throughout Europe bar a few notable exceptions.
Posted by: jpc | Sep 3 2024 16:25 utc | 61
Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 3 2024 10:06 utc | 220
Good post. Some interesting articles. I've referenced one above.
Posted by: horseguards | Sep 3 2024 16:26 utc | 62
Sorry Mr. Merc.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Are Swedes greeted by 70 meatballs in Heaven?
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 3 2024 16:26 utc | 63
Sorry, but it's fake:
Britta Ellwanger
·
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Posted by: Kaj Jakobsson | Sep 3 2024 16:27 utc | 64
Sorry, but it's fake:
Britta Ellwanger
·
Hello all,
1) unfortunately the bots have found me and I’m experiencing a wave of nasty comments and figuring out what to do about it. Recommendations for what to do are welcome.
2) an account has informed me that this post (shown in attached picture) is floating around.
If you see it, please ❗️ report it❗️
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Posted by: Kaj Jakobsson | Sep 3 2024 16:27 utc | 65
german nazi-outlet welt.de:
According to Russian military bloggers, the attack targeted the city's military training center. According to Selenskyj, “an educational institution and a neighboring hospital” in Poltava were hit by two missiles. “A building of the Institute of Communications was partially destroyed,” Selenskyj explained on Telegram. Several people were buried.
look, another hospital! just how many does ukraine have?
axel springer just cant help themself.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 3 2024 16:30 utc | 66
What did they think would happen - they created a juicy target for the RF, and the RF, struck at the heart of it - the Neo-Nazi regime running Ukraine - would've done the exact same thing, if the shoe had been on the other foot - as they saying goes.
Media reports in UK - claiming hundreds died in the strike - maybe, for once - they are telling the truth.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 3 2024 16:30 utc | 67
Adding -- Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 16:24 utc | 58
Link to resignation letter ==> https://t.me/myLordBebo/43069
Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 16:32 utc | 68
Kaj Jakobsson | Sep 3 2024 16:27 utc | 65
"Sorry, but it's fake"
Sorry, but she's lying.
Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 3 2024 16:36 utc | 69
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 3 2024 16:30 utc | 66
'The last hospital in Aleppo' times 50.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 16:39 utc | 70
🇷🇺💥🇺🇦🏴☠️ Photos of the consequences of the 🚀missile strike in Poltavahttps://t.me/ZandVchannel/126072
❗️🇷🇺💥🇺🇦🏴☠️ It is reported that 112 people were killed.https://t.me/ZandVchannel/126076
500+ injured.
‼️🇷🇺💥🇸🇪🏴☠️🇺🇦 There is information that among the destroyed Ukrainian military there are several Swedish instructors. They presumably arrived to train Ukrainian military personnel to operate the ASC 890 AWACS aircraft, which Sweden planned to transfer to Ukraine. Aircraft of this type are a simplified analogue of the Russian A-50 and American AWACS, with their help long-range target designation and reconnaissance are carried out.https://t.me/ZandVchannel/126081‼️🇷🇺💥🇸🇪🏴☠️ This information has not yet been confirmed, but if the Swedes really did get hit near Poltava, then the symbolism of the blow is simply amazing 😁
___________________________________________🗓 On July 8, 1709, the Russian army under the command of Peter-I defeated the Swedish army of Charles XII. The Battle of Poltava led to a turning point in the Northern War in favor of Russia.
On July 8, 1709, the Russian army under the command of Peter I defeated the Swedish army of Charles XII. The Battle of Poltava led to a turning point in the Northern War in favor of Russia.
⁉️It is unclear why the Russian city of Poltava is part of Ukraine. We will fix it.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 16:41 utc | 71
All this talk of Olaf Palme reminded me of an excellent documentary movie about his assassination.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8581872/#
The Man Who Played with Fire
I highly recommend.
As for the strike in Poltava, the old saying “fuck around and find out “ comes to mind. As in, you want to play at war, being a big hero, fuck around and find out.
This is OT but it popped into my head so I’ll mention it. For anyone who’s never seen Come and See, Klimov’s absolute masterpiece, go watch it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091251/
Posted by: KMRIA | Sep 3 2024 16:41 utc | 72
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 3 2024 16:19 utc | 55
RF has probably insider information. Do you think, like Vargas, that Ukrainians are all pro war, pro Z? If so you are really wrong.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 16:43 utc | 73
@ ThirdWorldDude | Sep 3 2024 16:15 utc | 54
My Swedish is too close to zero to analyse newspaper content, but obituaries rarely lie.
Let’s see if some goodwilled Swede cn keep us posted ;)
Cheers
Posted by: DS | Sep 3 2024 16:44 utc | 74
@55
"...wtf, okay, guys, yeah, I know, the Russians knew the Swedes would be there in 2 1/2 years, like a cat in the night, they waited."
You don't think Russian intelligence tracks the movement of mercenaries and foreign military instructors on UKR territory? I don't find it implausible that Swedish military men were on premises.
It also makes sense that Russia would take the occasion to send a message to Stockholm, given that US/NATO is about to clear Kiev to use long-range missiles against Russia.
Posted by: GW | Sep 3 2024 16:46 utc | 75
They strike buildings as they are discovered to be utilized by Nato/AFU.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 16:23 utc | 57
Swedish instructors were trainind Ukie radar specialists to operate the pledged by Sweden AWACS planes' radars for the F-16 planes.
When they were just teaching military specialists there - Rusia was letting it pass.
When they started training operators fo F-16, for Russia it was a bit too much to bear.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Sep 3 2024 16:46 utc | 76
@Poslan1 | Sep 3 2024 16:46 utc | 76
Sweden does not have F-16. The AWACS planes are ASC 890 AWACS.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 16:49 utc | 77
Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 3 2024 16:30 utc | 66
The Last Hospital in Aleppo™
Posted by: Abe | Sep 3 2024 16:50 utc | 78
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 16:25 utc | 60
Another one destroyed the canteen building on the territory of the facility.
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Some were having Filmjölk (Swedish Yogurt) for breakfast before the impact.
Posted by: AI | Sep 3 2024 16:53 utc | 79
Ukrainian sources report 200 'military students' dead in Poltava, which could imply several hundred more wounded. That is a jackpot for RUAF, which could also be sufficient to put a dent on future plans, whether it is continuation of the Kursk offensive, defending Pokrovsk, a new attack from Orekhov or something else.
Several other targets were hit last night as well, including the Grand Palace hotel in Zaporozhye and something in Dnipro, no doubt housing more foreign mercs.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 15:40 utc | 24
A year ago I guesstimated ~50,000 sheep dipped NATO were fighting in the Ukrainian Civil War. (Thanks Ed4 for reminding me)
Suspect it’s now at least 100,000 sheep dipped NATO .
Posted by: Exile | Sep 3 2024 15:26 utc | 16
I'm choosing to comment both at the same time because each "student" down means an aditional high end nato soldier sheep dipped and sent to what is now a meat grinder on turbo (each month is worth 6 months in the first year).
Add the losses on EW and artillery and the risk for those specialists is magnitude(s?) greater than in 2022. At least one magnitude just because of added destruction, probably a second because of having to replace whatever AFU resources are no longer significant, and perhaps even a third for Putin's willingnes to hunt them down hard now.
What could be covered up when talking about one here, another there, evey so often, becomes a different game when it's in the hundreds or thousands. How long before it becomes a problem in the west is one of the big questions for the next months.
Let's take the radar school, if there were low hundreds 200s and high hundreds 300s, then let us settle for a round 1.000 seriously hit. If it was neither a crowded nor a small class, let's say that for every 20 one was a teacher, let us also assume that they were all nato teachers as possible AFU teachers are few and badly needed maning their equipments.
So out of those 1.000, at least 50 were nato, 10 were KIA, no fewer than 10 will be horribly maimed (even a bigger problem when they get home), and 30 will eventually be repaired but will be in western hospitals for a while.
Now for the problem, the local 950... assuming that there was at least a 50%+ approval ratio (and I fear you'd have to be really bad for them to flunk you) means 500 nato (10x as many who were hit as teachers) will have to go man the systems closer to the front line.
So next time it's 500 being hit at the front... along the new 50 in the new school
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 3 2024 17:01 utc | 80
79 - The last Swedish meatball, the last smorgasbord, then oblivion...
Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 3 2024 17:04 utc | 81
The Sweeds in Poltava and the nazis in Kursk, some things never change, some idiots never learn.
Posted by: Paco | Sep 3 2024 17:04 utc | 82
You have got to be rather naive to believe a military target like the place in Poltava would not be hit. So not only are these people evil, but they are also stupid.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 17:05 utc | 83
There are a large number of US Airmen from WW II buried in Sweden. When their aircraft got damaged many made for Sweden where they landed and were incarcerated for the duration. The dead were buried. Allied brass thought it was some airmens way to get out of the war. It was suspected that some aircrews abandoned their mission and made for Sweden.
I think most crews made for Sweden based on battle damage. There is an excellent audio of Hitler complaining to the Swedish PM about Kursk. He was complaining about the endless supply of T-34's. I cannot find it now but its out there somewhere.
With all that being said. You would think these idiots would be tired of their endless war.
Posted by: circumspect | Sep 3 2024 17:05 utc | 84
Sweden does not have F-16. The AWACS planes are ASC 890 AWACS.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 3 2024 16:49 utc | 77
F-16 were supplied by Danes. Swedes were training Ukies to guide Dane-supplied F-16 by the Sweden-supplied ASC 890. And Russian-supplied Iskanders tolled for end of the class.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Sep 3 2024 17:05 utc | 85
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 15:50 utc | 33
++++++++++++++++++++++++
According to Nick from the BBC reporting on the ground near the obliterated building [and cantine] they can not get closer to the site due its sensitivity. You can see the game they are playing at it, of pure shock and horror to discover the huge numbers of killed.
Posted by: AI | Sep 3 2024 17:05 utc | 86
AI | Sep 3 2024 16:53 utc | 79
"Some were having Filmjölk (Swedish Yogurt) for breakfast before the impact."
And now the bacteria are eating them.
Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 3 2024 17:07 utc | 87
circumspect | Sep 3 2024 17:05 utc | 84
"There is an excellent audio of Hitler complaining to the Swedish PM about Kursk. He was complaining about the endless supply of T-34's. I cannot find it now but its out there somewhere."
Hitler was talking with the Finnish leader Mannerheim. It's still around on Youtube.
Posted by: flying dutchman | Sep 3 2024 17:09 utc | 88
All UKR and RU TG and social media channels are moderated by their governments, they all signed agreements to such moderation, so I'm suspicious of critiques, RU controls seem to be more lenient, I doubt the UKR ones are.
It looks like enemy missiles were stupidly launched because the coordinates of the military units were stupidly posted in Russian public pages.
Blame some anonymous tech, my suspicion is that the above crap is generated by the Kiev govt. to distract from the obvious, of collapsing internal security in the AFU, sane people in the AFU, and probably NATO and European militaries, are more and more helping the Russians to quickly end the neocon madness. It's not just spiraling downward ever faster on the battlefield but on the home front and behind the scenes of power.
The command is to blame! - up to 600 wounded and killed from the attack on the Ukrainian Armed Forces formation in Poltava, - former Rada deputy Mosiychuk"There are a lot of victims, up to 600, and dozens of dead.
The city's hospitals are overcrowded.It looks like enemy missiles were stupidly launched because the coordinates of the military units were stupidly posted in Russian public pages.
At the same time, this does not at all relieve the military leadership from responsibility for allowing such a significant accumulation of personnel!
We expect the SBU counterintelligence to quickly detain both the enemy missile gunners and our military commanders who are guilty of the tragedy!"
Ukrainian Post
https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/13168
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 17:09 utc | 89
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 15:50 utc | 33
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According to Nick from the BBC reporting on the ground near the obliterated building [and cantine] they can not get closer to the site due its sensitivity. You can see the game they are playing at it, of pure shock and horror to discover the huge numbers of killed.
Posted by: AI | Sep 3 2024 17:05 utc | 86
Or maybe they're too scared of a double tap...
Wouldn't be the first, wouldn't be the last (but lately RF hasn't practiced it as much)
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 3 2024 17:10 utc | 90
One characteristic of the aftermath of previous strikes on accumulations of NATO ‘advisors’ and ‘trainers’ has been an increase of flights to and from Poland that have been thought to be medical evacuation flights.
Are we seeing anything reported about this yet?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 3 2024 17:16 utc | 91
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 3 2024 17:10 utc | 90
A double tap is more in the book of ukraine/Nato.
When you hit with an iskander there is no reason to double tap to hit some firemens/volunteers, unless you are on a terrorist path.
Posted by: Mario | Sep 3 2024 17:19 utc | 92
At a briefing on September 3, the official representative of the Ministry of Defense Igor Konashenkov reported on new successes of the Russian army in the zone of the special military operation (SMO).
According to operational data, over the past 24 hours, units of the "South" group have defeated formations of the 24th, 32nd, 100th, 117th mechanized, 46th airmobile, 10th assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 116th territorial defense brigade. Up to 710 militants, 6 vehicles, a self-propelled howitzer "Paladin", a howitzer, a self-propelled howitzer "Akatsiya", a D-30 howitzer, 5 field ammunition depots and an electronic warfare station "Anklav-N" have been destroyed.
Units of the Sever group in the Volchansk, Bryansk and Liptsov directions defeated the formations of the 36th Marine Brigade, the 103rd and 114th territorial defense brigades. More than 150 militants, a tank, an armored combat vehicle, 3 cars and a Grad MLRS combat vehicle were destroyed.
Units of the "West" group inflicted losses on the manpower and equipment of the 14th, 44th, 116th mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 117th territorial defense brigade, and repelled a counterattack by the assault group of the 30th mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Up to 450 militants, 2 vehicles, a Krab self-propelled howitzer, an FH-70 howitzer, 2 D-20 howitzers and 9 field ammunition depots were destroyed.
Units of the "Vostok" group defeated the formations of the 31st, 72nd mechanized brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 129th territorial defense brigade, and repelled 3 counterattacks of assault groups of the 72nd mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Up to 150 militants, 3 vehicles and 2 self-propelled howitzers "Krab" were destroyed.
Units of the "Center" group defeated the formations of the 31st, 53rd mechanized, 142nd infantry, 95th airborne assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the 109th territorial defense brigade, and repelled 7 counterattacks of assault groups of the 59th motorized infantry, 144th infantry, 25th airborne brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the 12th and 14th brigades of the National Guard. Up to 490 militants, 3 pickups, 4 combat armored vehicles, a "Paladin" self-propelled gun and a D-30 howitzer were destroyed.
Units of the Dnepr group defeated concentrations of manpower and equipment of the 128th Mountain Assault Brigade, 141st Infantry Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, 37th Marine Brigade and 39th Coastal Defense Brigade. Up to 60 militants, 2 vehicles and an Msta-B howitzer were destroyed.
Operational-tactical aviation, UAVs, missile forces and artillery of the Russian Armed Forces destroyed a depot of aviation weapons, and carried out strikes on concentrations of Ukrainian Armed Forces manpower and military equipment in 149 districts.
Russian air defense systems shot down a MiG-29 aircraft of the Ukrainian Air Force, three HIMARS missiles and 37 UAVs.
In total, since the beginning of the military operations, the Russian Armed Forces have destroyed 642 aircraft, 283 helicopters, 30,987 UAVs, 575 air defense systems, 17,811 tanks and other armored combat vehicles, 1,435 MLRS combat vehicles, 13,985 field artillery pieces and mortars, as well as 25,539 units of special military vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Posted by: Siberianrhod | Sep 3 2024 17:19 utc | 93
Its really amazing how arrogant NATO is in Ukraine-Russian War......they act with stupidity and with impunity too.
How really dumb is it operate a training school packed full and students and NATO mercenaries only 120klicks from the Russian border? And then openly parade the troops daily in front of the chow hall!
The NATO funded, directed and operated last ditch attack on Mother Russia has really lifted any and all self imposed RF constraints......anything anywhere in the Ukraine of military or infrastructure value is now fair game.......especially since NATO has now sent the mercs into Russia itself. Next up, the Port of Odessa reduced to rubble and the RN mercs with it.
Any US transfer of long range missiles to the Ukronazi forces will also mean that the Polish and Romania bases and supply depots will also be fair game.....this strike today is fair warning......(anyway the US transfer is not likely with the upcoming election for POTUS, unless the Biden/Harris/Obama/Soros regime in DC wants to box Trump in, in anticipation of his election. Trump is not in favor of any escalation on behalf of Volo that is for sure, especially after Volo and the Vindman twins attempted to get him impeached. Trump detests Volo. Trump's election means the end of the US welfare payments to the Ukronazis).
By the way those 890 Swedist AWACS would have a life span of about the same length as the F-16's, roughly ten minutes in the air before RF AA eliminates them. More NATO junk for the scrap dealers.
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:20 utc | 94
How come the Swedes have not sent some of their surplus Grippens to the UAF?
Inquiring minds would like to know!
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:23 utc | 95
only 120klicks from the Russian border?
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:20 utc | 94
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Reiterating my post #2 above, the Russian boarder moved West after their Duma accepted the results of the Sept '22 referendums.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 17:29 utc | 96
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:23 utc | 95
It is useful to remember that Swedes or any EUroNATO state for that matter decides nothing regarding Ukraine for themselves. The only reason they haven't sent Grippens is because Jake Sullivan or Biden's handlers didn't tell them to do so.
A practical matter sending Grippen fighters may also be that Nato has been unable to create a permanent base capable of arming missiles in Ukraine. So there just isn't any place to base them.
This is also why we have no evidence of usage of F-16 in combat duty, despite Zelensky's claim.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 3 2024 17:29 utc | 97
The Swedes made lots of money off WWII, they had a booming export market of iron ore and bauxite, and Bofor AAD equipment to the Nazi forces.
So here we are 80 years later with the Swedes giving equipment and ammo to the Nazis again, this time in the Ukraine........
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:30 utc | 98
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 3 2024 17:23 utc | 95
Grippens are among the lightest, lowest-performance and least combat-worthy fighter planes going. Of course the Swedes hype them as being super-duper effective even so, but that's mostly just bluster. Saab should have stuck to making cars.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Sep 3 2024 17:32 utc | 99
Mario @ 42
Often women are more belligerants than men. Women in power positions, in corporates, are often hatred both from men and women but more by the women.
Remember that sexual rolls are defined by economic structure, historical materialism and such, the roll of men and women in our society has be crafted by over three centuries of capitalism and now unhinged neoliberal capitalism.
Women in power sometimes engender hatred because it's not innate but the opposite, it goes against their better nature and yes women have one. Women have been moving into these male defined jobs for only half a century and they are still mostly male and male defined, women still feel they must prove themselves in a male environment and act manly or worse over act. It's why at an airport, boarder crossing, confronting cops, etc I learned to always head for the man over the women, always.
I'm with John Perkins (Confessions of an Economic Hit Man) on this, women are on earth to act as a counterbalance to men, an opposing logic, and opposing force, an opposing nature, to fill out the debate not to jump on the same side of the scale as the men, especially since men tend to rush wantonly into disaster after disaster. Perkins became acutely aware IIRC living with Peruvian tribes or something similar, that when the males got some seriously dangerous idiocy into their heads, like a quick and easy attack on a neighboring tribe, the women organized a sex boycott which quickly brought them to their senses. Reminds me of bonobos 🙃
Maybe sexist on my part, but men and women should have exactly equal rights and opportunities but not exactly equal rolls or functions in society. It'll take much time to work itself out where the best of both genders is expressed and rewarded, but the woke way we are going it'll take forever if we don't go extinct first.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 3 2024 17:33 utc | 100
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It’s good that those “Peace-Loving” Swedes have been reminded NOT TO FUCK WITH RUSSIA
LOL, benefits of NATO membership
Slavsja, Slavsja nas Russkij Tsar
Posted by: OldFart | Sep 3 2024 15:00 utc | 1