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September 15, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-220

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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A little suggestion re trolls on this forum:
Instead of filtering *OUT* (by way of scripts or memory) the shit posters, dumbarses, habitual contrarians, ignoramuses, unreferenced claimants, obvious sock puppets, ideological bigots, periodic drunkards, fantasist stoners, repetitive narrators, chronic doomers, chronic Pollyannas, etc — only read the *PROVEN* sensible and intelligent posters, and only ever reply to those *YOU KNOW* will engage productively. It’s called exercising discrimination.
This way, the list of “goodies” will be much smaller than the list of “baddies” one has to store mentally! Imo, PeterAU1 and some others respond well-meaningly to way too many irrelevant dickheads. It just makes them a target for the trolls; wastes their own time; adds nothing to group learning; clutters up the forum; and never educates fixed opinions and ideologues. So what point?
There’s now only about 15 names I pause to read, and even less with whom I bother to engage. This vastly shortens my time in this cesspit of inconsequential thought bubbles. I now ignore those who respond off-topic from my posts or instances of agreement and tacit flattery. What point?

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 15 2024 23:03 utc | 201

Well its certainly not Russians that are trying to “influence” the election by assassinating Trump. More likely Ukronazi sympathisers I would say!
Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Sep 15 2024 21:27 utc | 202
That’s so true ted. kyiv clearly dont want trump to win in november but they wont put him of their kill list, that wd be too obvious

Posted by: The Flying Scotsman | Sep 15 2024 23:05 utc | 202

Posted by: Konami | Sep 15 2024 22:44 utc | 223
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Meh, they hate the world & themselves.
Fact is Britain is the Renfield to the USA’s Dracula. No-one takes thier antics seriously any foes viewing them as mere catspaws for the US.
The USA for it’s part can’t by definition be bounced into anything by a wretched vassal, the US ambassador in London is higher on the global pecking order than Kier Starmer.
Washington’s “agreement” on doing anything the UK wants, is thus just propaganda. Selling the idea of an allied initiative to the gullible.
Beyond that the ego of the UK elites finds this situation rather humiliating. So they displace Thier angst onto countries on NATO’s naughty list. Particularly those that are sovereign & historical great powers, like the UK *used* to be.
In Russia’s cases this is compounded demented British fantasies, dating back centuries.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 15 2024 23:06 utc | 203

konami 223
Indeed perhaps part of the Brits’ play is – or at least was – to persuade the U.S. to continue to provide the U.K. with Trident nukes. Out of the news that deal was recently extended. But with a subtle change – the UK’s previous “get out” clause after a fixed term (e.g. 10 years) was removed. As noticed by KernowDarro:
https://youtu.be/BgUlCQLVnS8?si=r6Rak9rPcjxujnAk
Now the U.K. are more subservient to the US than before regarding the nuclear deterrent.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Sep 15 2024 23:11 utc | 204

Schools will play into it a lot. Not so much the schools for the ordinary people but the elite schools.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 22:47 utc | 225

The Ruling Class have no connection to the average Brit. They are all a bunch of perverted, multi-generational serial killers.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 15 2024 23:11 utc | 205

james | Sep 15 2024 23:14 utc | 236
piss off troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 23:14 utc | 206

Peter AU1. 218
“Storm Shadow uses terrain tracking guidance.”
Yes, a system provided by the USA.
So without US consent they can’t deploy Storm Shadow.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Sep 15 2024 23:20 utc | 207

Well its certainly not Russians that are trying to “influence” the election by assassinating Trump. More likely Ukronazi sympathisers I would say!
Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Sep 15 2024 21:27 utc | 202
looks like the ukraine missed again lol lol

Posted by: tenplusten | Sep 15 2024 23:23 utc | 208

Did Putin just try to assassinate Trump for belly flopping at the debate? Some other posts are claiming the Kremlin has had it with Trump.
Posted by: james | Sep 15 2024 23:14 utc | 236
Hey mr James. Are you and your nazi friends trying to kill trumpy again?

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 15 2024 23:25 utc | 209

Many thanks for the replies.
Urban Fox: “they hate the world & themselves.” is exactly the catch-all explanation I disagree with. Sure, they may hate all the plebs and discuss people reduction all day but they *still* need to make decisions that hopefully improve their position. Suicide is an option they didn’t choose. If they wanted global suicide, they could’ve done that long ago. Even if they were only interested in torturing the unwashed masses, they should try to do it in a way that takes mid and long term into account. (And I don’t even see short term.)
Andrew: interesting! Thanks for sharing.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 15 2024 23:26 utc | 210

aparently there been a 2nd try and murder former u.s. president donald trump. there only 1 party this good for and it is ukrane who are killing him. i think

Posted by: Ed Yam | Sep 15 2024 23:31 utc | 211

Konami @ 223, 228:
The British hate the Russians / Soviets for several reasons:
– defeating Nazi Germany in World War II: we must bear in mind the British political establishment all the way up to and including the monarchy supported Hitler;
– industrialising and turning the Russian / Soviet state into an industrial power capable of beating a coalition of countries led by Nazi Germany and then recovering from ruin to launch satellites into space in a 30-year period (1929 – 1959);
– reaching Central Asia and incorporating it into the Russian empire before the British could, back in the 1800s, and slowing down or retarding British hopes of taking Central Asia and parts of western China (Xinjiang, Tibet);
– killing the Romanov imperial family and thus removing a potential institution for British soft propaganda infiltration into Russian cultural life.
The most compelling reason I can think of though is that the Russians demonstrated that an industrial power could be built by a society that had got rid of its class system and associated parasitic aristocracy.
Of all past Russian and Soviet leaders the British hate, I should think the one they hate the most is Joseph Stalin as he led the USSR during its industrialisation and then World War II. This is not to excuse his style of leadership or the way his government managed the country’s transformation from a poor agrarian state at the mercy of poor harvests and famine to an industrial one that could feed and shelter all its citizens at least, regardless of the quality of life they ended up with.
Putin probably comes second to Stalin, if not first in some British elites’ minds. It seems that whatever a Soviet or Russian leader starts, which results in dramatic and long-lasting transformations and generates even more results and consequences, puts that leader onto the British elites’ shit lists.
Pay attention to how British mainstream media paint Putin and his decisions, and the country he has overseen more or less for nearly a quarter of a century, and how Putin’s Russia is always compared to, or likened to Stalin’s USSR, however much stereotyped and caricatured the latter has become in the British imagination (for want of a better term).

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 15 2024 23:33 utc | 212

*** But when you’re losing a war, especially a proxy war, it’s Imperialism 101 to walk back, lick wounds and prepare the next round. I can see a US faction aiming for that. Is the UK? ***
Posted by: Konami | Sep 15 2024 22:44 utc | 223
You attribute rational thought, as you perceive such an attribute, to the products of post modern thought dominated education, as Peter AU1 comments. These post modern education products are designed fill government bureaucracies.
Group validated objectives are valued above all else for the post moder trained, which crowds out the humility needed for an honest oppotunity at objective thought – the wages of the sin of pride if you ask me.
Individuals that value Group objectives are susceptible to propagandists efforts – a dark art mastered by those whose deals are large enough for policy shifts to be their target. Government employees are just tools.
I guess you can call these policy dictators bankers, but that’s not really the right description because the policy being set is a condition that comes into existence long before the funds for a deal hits any account.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 15 2024 23:41 utc | 213

Hermius @ 192 and elsewhere:
Awaiting (not!) all the bad golf jokes and how the would-be assassin failed to get a hole in one or a birdie shot.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 15 2024 23:43 utc | 214

Fact is Britain is the Renfield to the USA’s Dracula.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 15 2024 23:06 utc | 232
Which might be a concern for the USA, Renfield was successful in killing off Dracula.
Britain is the master of “you and him fight.”

Posted by: Archetypex | Sep 15 2024 23:51 utc | 215

DS map intel has dropped:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#11/47.8871111/37.4517059

The enemy advanced near Kolisnykivka, Katerynivka, Vodiane, Vuhledar, Spirne and Ukrainsk. The situation in Kremyannoe has been clarified.

Note, this is another 36 hour drop, gets us back to late afternoon/evening reporting.
1. Major development is in Vuhledar “corner” area, where their map shows:
-small red increase in RFA control and larger gray increase in contested territory in fields to the E of Vuhledar, proper.
-small increase in red/grey to the NW of Vodiane. The mine to the NW of there is now 50% red and 50% grey.
-about a six sq km increase of a salient between Vodiane and Kostyantynivka, crossing the highway at another point. This is probably more relevant to attacks on the NW of Kostyantynivka, where RFA has been stymied for last couple weeks. Has potential to flank Katerynivka, next town up to NW of Kosty.
2. On the “south of Pokrovsk salient”, couple developments:
-large increase in grey to the direct south of Haltsy. Zhelanne Pershe now entirely in the grey. (this might be the more notable, if it follows up with red and with movement to the “second” Zhelanne, as that threatens finally closing the Nevelske pocket.
-small increase in red/grey in Ukrainsk. City and slag heap has still not fallen. UFA contests the E side of it.
3. Spirne: about a 5*1 km rectangle taken. Most of city now in RFA hands.
4. Pischane salient: very small amount of territory taken. Doesn’t seem notable.
5. Kursk area:
-Kind of a strange circle of grey (surrounded by UFA blue) showing contested territory at Kremanoe. Not sure what it means.
-No change in either RFA “left hook” on the W, which is stopped at Luby. Or in the UFA (even further left hook, on the W), which is stopped at Vesy. Looks like lines becoming static, both sides stopping the maneuver elements right now.
-No change (even grey zone) near Borki (E side of Kursk incursion), which the “first, first” Ayden crowd has been alternately touting as taken or contested.

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 15 2024 23:56 utc | 216

As I said earlier, it now appears that the suspect in the new trump assasination attempt, has helped raise funds for Ukraine.
It all figures now. Kiev is shit scared of Trump winning in November. So much so they’ll try to kill him.

Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Sep 16 2024 0:12 utc | 217

Scott Ritter said in the latest Greg Galloway talkshow that Russia made explicit statements what they would hit if the FUKUS launched missiles from Poland in Russia, per the latest Blinken/Starmer plan. They would have striked Nato bases in Europe and including US hard.
This was prevented after Biden backed down. But the British haven’t given up, they will continue exerting more pressure on Biden in the UNGA.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 0:18 utc | 218

Edward Snowden has wondered whether US intelligence agencies had any “contact” with the attempted shooter, pointing to his alleged Ukraine connections and vocal support of Kiev.
“We know little so far, but w alleged Trump shooter’s personal and public participation in military activity in Ukraine, it is hard to imagine this White House’s agencies can claim zero contact—”clean hands.” Something of an Oswald vibe, here. Congress should get answers,” Snowden wrote on X.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2024 0:22 utc | 219

The potential assassin at Del Lago in Florida today was a Ukrainian agent who was actively attempting to recruit mercs in the US to serve with the UAF…..Ryan Wesley has numerous pro Ukrainian posts on social media……
So yes, this is a clear attempt by Kieve to murder President Trump……….this after they attempted to stage the Vindman coup in 2020 ………..
Clearly Volo is at war with Republican/Conservative anti neo cons……….

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 16 2024 0:27 utc | 220

If the Ukrops wanted to take Trump, they could have done something way more professional, than this goofy loon. Use your noggin. They have professionals and the ability to pay professionals. They don’t need 58 year old losers like this weirdo.

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 16 2024 0:30 utc | 221

@unimperator | Mon, 16 Sep 2024 00:18:00 GMT | 252
Thanks for posting that, but it doesn’t make any sense. Why would Russia telegraph what sites they would hit? Putin’s veiled threat was enough to send the message to UK/US/Fr. Also, how does Ritter have access to Russian/American back channels?
And how does Britain exert pressure on the US in the UN General Assembly? Its resolutions don’t come with binding enforcement, like Chapter 7. Also, there are probably more members in the UNGA who are sympathetic to Russia than to the UK. Does Ritter mean the UNSC? Even there, any resolution against Russia would be automatically blocked by Russia/China.
The pressure points the UK has against the US are extremely limited, which is why the Europeans/British defer to the US on these matters. Of course the British are welcome to go on their own. Try their luck against Russia without American backing. See how far they get.

Posted by: James M. | Sep 16 2024 0:31 utc | 222

If the Ukrops wanted to take Trump, they could have done something way more professional, than this goofy loon. Use your noggin. They have professionals and the ability to pay professionals. They don’t need 58 year old losers like this weirdo.
Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 16 2024 0:30 utc | 255
I’m afraid they DO NEED 58 year-old losers like Ryan Wesley Routh who worked recruiting mercenaries to fight in ukraine. Kiev isnt as “professional” as youre making out, Mr Anonymous

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2024 0:36 utc | 223

@Archetypex | Sun, 15 Sep 2024 23:51:00 GMT | 249

Britain is the master of “you and him fight.”

They were the master of you and him fight, a hundred years ago. They utilized off-shore balancing, helped by their geography to exhaust the continental powers. But the US has something that Britain does not have, about 5,000 km of ocean between it and the Eurasian landmass, and a mostly disengaged populace. Hopefully America is insulated enough to not take the bait.

Posted by: James M. | Sep 16 2024 0:36 utc | 224

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 16 2024 0:30 utc | 255
Any guy who can get within three hundred yards of a presidential candidate with a rifle with a scope is a pro!
automatic translation

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Sep 16 2024 0:37 utc | 225

@HERMIUS | Mon, 16 Sep 2024 00:36:00 GMT | 257
It is highly unusual to have two such (legitimate) assassination attempts so close together against a US presidential candidate/president. Ford had two in 1975 within a month, both by women – A Manson cultist and a delusional leftist. But this feels different. One might be considered an isolated event, but two or three is likely a trend.

Posted by: James M. | Sep 16 2024 0:47 utc | 226

If you want to establish some type of deniability the last thing you want to do is sent a team of trained, professional assassins to Florida…….
You want to fund and sent some self motivated sap to do the job, so you are assured that he will get capped by law enforcement. Dead men tell no tales……
Ryan Wesley is the perfect sap……..and he was a ersatz recruiter for the UAF too…….

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 16 2024 0:49 utc | 227

If the Ukrops wanted to take Trump, they could have done something way more professional, than this goofy loon. Use your noggin. They have professionals and the ability to pay professionals. They don’t need 58 year old losers like this weirdo.
Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 16 2024 0:30 utc | 255
Theyre so “professional” they’ve been outmanoeuvred, outgunned and outsmarted by the Russians since the start of the SMO.😂

Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Sep 16 2024 0:50 utc | 228

The way they keep trying to kill Trump or put him in jail is beginning to make me think that electing him might actually make a difference. Now I have to figure out if it will be for the better or the worse…

Posted by: Honzo | Sep 16 2024 0:55 utc | 229

https://deepstatemap.live/en#10/46.6951383/32.8614807
Going clockwise around the major sectors:
1. Kursk (Glushovo) counter-counter attack. DS doesn’t call out the Ukrop added incursion in his typed summary. Nor does he give any additional blue. But he has a tentacle of grey where the Ukrop advance is shown by other mappers. Something to keep an eye on. If UFA can keep going, then it is a serious threat. If they get bogged down, then not. Just need a couple more days to see if the RFA have forces to defend. Like most of the area, it’s not that well fortified. And to give the UFA credit, they did a textbook job of getting through the mines/dragon-teeth that were there. So, it’s more of an issue of force on force combat, not storming trenches.
2. Kursk (main UFA area, Snagost): RFA continues to push east, with an increase in both Russian controlled and grey tentacle, moving towards Lyubmivka, sort of cutting the pocket into a N and S half, from the west to east.
3. Kursk (main UFA area, north of Snagost): UFA took some more villages to the far north. Kind of strange behavior when they are being attacked to the south. But maybe makes sense if you look and see that it is just conversion of UFA grey to blue. Maybe not an actual advance, but just DS had these conquests in reserve. Donno though.
4. Kursk (main UFA area, eastern half): No changes, per DS.
5. Kharkiv (RFA) incursion: No changes. (cut)
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It is clear Russia cannot defend it’s own borders from invasion by a very weakened Ukraine, nor eradicate or extricate the Ukr forces from Kursk. The US govt was always being asked what was it’s ‘exit strategy’ in afghanistan and iraq and syria and vietnam.
Been long wondering what is Russia’s exit strategy from Ukraine? What would a “normalized peace” even look like? And who in the UN nations are ever going to recognize whatever that final territorial situation and the Ukr govt ends up being? And would any ‘contact line’ ever not be a conflict zone – one thinks of Kashmir, Berlin, and Korea.
Will anyone in the west/oecd ever buy fossil fuels from Russia or normalize trade with them again in the next 25+ years? Seems like the Nord stream pipelines and those running through Ukraine are more likely to slowly rust away. Even less likely is a long term ‘peace / missiles treaty’ between Russia and NATO, the EU or the US which Putin was chasing in 2021/2022.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:00 utc | 230

BTW, since it seems that half-cocked speculation is in vogue at the bar lately, what if the Neocon/Neolib Deep State was behind the latest attempt to kill Trump (just like the last one)? It would be a two-fer- Trump dead by a pro-Ukrainian assassin… talk about an off-ramp from Ukraine!

Posted by: Honzo | Sep 16 2024 1:01 utc | 231

Ryan Wesley is the perfect sap……..and he was a ersatz recruiter for the UAF too…….
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 16 2024 0:49 utc | 261
Exactly. Its got Ukraines maulers all over this attempt to subvert the election. But then again, its not surprising it coming out of kiev. Didnt they oust the elected president in 2014 or something like that?

Posted by: Fyador | Sep 16 2024 1:03 utc | 232

It is clear Russia cannot defend it’s own borders from invasion by a very weakened Ukraine, nor eradicate or extricate the Ukr forces from Kursk.
Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:00 utc | 264
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It is clear the US cannot defend its own border from invasion by a very weakened Venezuela, nor eradicate or extricate the Venezuelan forces from Colorado.
There, I fixed it for you.

Posted by: Honzo | Sep 16 2024 1:04 utc | 233

Posted by: James M. | Sep 16 2024 0:31 utc | 256
Not sure, though Ritter said he had compiled all the statements and maybe he has some inside information, who knows.
Apparently there are new types of delivery systems and weapons which can deliver conventional strikes but with the yield of a small nuclear bomb. Potentially European cities could have been targeted. Maybe in response to hitting Russian cities or civilian targets from Poland.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 16 2024 1:08 utc | 234

@Escobar | Mon, 16 Sep 2024 01:00:00 GMT | 264

Been long wondering what is Russia’s exit strategy from Ukraine?

Victory is Russia’s exit strategy.

Posted by: James M. | Sep 16 2024 1:08 utc | 235

If today is what ‘winning’ looks like then what would failure be in Ukraine for Russia? Is holding onto four oblasts plus Crimea all that matters?
The USSR (Russia) were winning big time in the Afghanistan war before the US stuck it’s nose into it and backed the opposition. The USSR soon retreated and gave up. Of course that was a totally different situation back then than today. But the question still remains: What’s the end game? What does success (or failure) look like and how will we know it when we see it.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:13 utc | 236

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 16:23 utc | 56
@bar tech help. I clicked the link (won’t repeat that mistake).
I guess they installed something nasty. Any clue how I can find it and remove?
Jo | Sep 15 2024 19:22 utc | 147
Blinken Lammy train trip from Poland to Kiev…
I too would have loved to have seen something happen to cause an inconvenient delay.
As a one time long suffering train commuter, it once seemed that something as little as a stray tissue could cause line shut down and network wide chaos.
Why do they get a trouble free excursion across supposedly war afflicted Ukraine?
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HERMIUS | Sep 15 2024 19:26 utc | 150
HIMARS …The Russians got their hands on valuable microcircuits and stabilizers,…
Hah. All those years of pilfering and stripping washing machines eventually paid off. No skill is ever wasted.
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snake | Sep 15 2024 19:54 utc | 160
I continue to believe the war in Ukraine, the destruction of NORDSTREAM II, the eviction of the Palestinians in Gaza are about oil and gas…
…don’t forget the vast resources found in 2014 in the Levantine Reserve just 12 miles off short to Gaza..

Yep.
If you know, you know.
And. What was Syria? Hint. For those who weren’t @bar back then. It was a pipeline war.
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Jo | Sep 15 2024 21:34 utc | 203
§~Ukrainian refugees fleeing incoming harsh winter.
The first, second, third rush of Ukrainians for the exit, who embedded themselves like tics across Europe, have already outstayed their welcome, host countries are exasperated with them, their Entitlement, and their insatiable need for more money, housing, health and all free benefits.
Those remaining in Ukraine now are the less nimble… the aged babuskas; those with family and business anchors.
Ukraine doesn’t want them, and neither does Europe.
Don’t like freezing in Ukraine? Don’t go to the UK, you’ll freeze there too.
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Why are the Britz so obsessed with Storm Shadows *penetrating* deeeep into Russia?
Kursk was their op. And they lost some top special service guys.
The Brits want revenge. Real hard revenge with nasty blows against civilians in Russia.
>… that’ll teach Putin.
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AI | Sep 15 2024 23:12 utc | 235
…Agreed, one hundred percent. Elegant and persuasive. Beautiful prose. Would read again.. Hmm… have you just committed “ instances of agreement and tacit flattery? [Nevermind]
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Ted from Liverpool | Sep 16 2024 0:12 utc | 251
+ And anyone believing *anything* you are told about a “shooter”.
Goddam it. Have you all not learned *anything* since the 1960s assassinations?
Whatever *they* tell you about a shooter, is what they *want* you to believe about a shooter.
The attempts on Trump are real. The patsy pulling the trigger already has a pre-installed narrative script ready to roll.
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Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 16 2024 1:16 utc | 237

It is clear Russia cannot defend it’s own borders from invasion by a very weakened Ukraine, nor eradicate or extricate the Ukr forces from Kursk.
Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:00 utc | 264
Whats clear Mr Escobar, is that the Ukrainians are taking a hell of a beating in Kursk. And, as you know already, the purpose of the SMO is to dismantle the Ukraine military. So, Kursk is actually a wonderful example of how to do that. Lead them into a trap…..then close the doors and pound the fuckers to death!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2024 1:17 utc | 238

“There, I fixed it for you.”
Did you? Kursk is the same as Colorado. Refugees are just like the Urk military forces. I’m sorry you’re not very bright. It must be so hard for you getting by in all areas of life.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:21 utc | 239

Don’t feed the Escobar troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 1:22 utc | 240

The UK motivation in this war is because it’s genuinely in rapid terminal economic decline.
Eg. here’s a link to a chart of North Sea energy production https://carbontracker.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/Screenshot-2023-11-16-at-14.12.07.png
With the loss of Russian energy to the EU the soaring cost of imported energy brought about by competitive demand would mean economic collapse within a decade.
Apart from a small export arms industry it produces nothing of value except via the City of London financial jiggery-pokery.
Eg. Re-hypothecation is the means by which your house (owned by the bank while you’re paying it off) can be used as collateral by the bank to offset their international borrowing. That’s “ok” except the City of London banking system allows re-hypothecation to happen an infinite number of times so that “your house” is borrowed against by a conga-line of indebted institutions with the result that there are millions of dollars in credit hanging on the value to the bank of your house. Re-hypothecation is capped in the US and elsewhere because it’s an utter disastrous ponzi.
Eg. article raising the alarm here by the IMF of all people https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2010/wp10172.pdf
Britain MUST destroy Russia and BRICS or die, horribly.

Posted by: Saul Goode | Sep 16 2024 1:27 utc | 241

Guys and Gals – if the REAL string pullers wanted Trump dead he would be long gone by now. This is all opera bouffa.
2024 will be my 12th presidential election …. The choices have gotten worse each iteration.

Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 16 2024 1:27 utc | 242

Raheem.
@RaheemKassam
On May 4, 2024, would-be Trump assassin Ryan Routh posted this on his Facebook page, which appears to be from the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense.
I asked ChatGPT to translate it, and, uh…
https://x.com/RaheemKassam/status/1835440928074736007
Pic at the link. Trump is part of the realist/nationalist faction in the US who want to dump the Ukraine project and attack China.
Ukraine is MI6. The globalist/loyalist faction in the US worked with the Brits including the colonies to try and oust Trump Steele dossier ect. Not too far fetched that the Brits would again be trying to help out the globalist/loyalist faction.
Fico’s shooter very much the same.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 1:37 utc | 243

“A little suggestion re trolls on this forum:
Instead of filtering *OUT* (by way of scripts or memory) the shit posters, dumbarses, habitual contrarians, ignoramuses, unreferenced claimants, obvious sock puppets, ideological bigots, periodic drunkards, fantasist stoners, repetitive narrators, chronic doomers, chronic Pollyannas, etc — only read the *PROVEN* sensible and intelligent posters, and only ever reply to those *YOU KNOW* will engage productively. It’s called exercising discrimination.
[…] This vastly shortens my time in this cesspit of inconsequential thought bubbles.

Well, that is one theory. If it works for you, great. Though may I point out you did overlook the ‘obsessive-compulsive unintelligent illogical conspiracy theorists’ and the ‘intentionally disruptive trolls’ from your list.
Could you please list who you consider the ‘sensible and intelligent posters’ to be sure everyone is on the same page here. Thank you.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:38 utc | 244

Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 16 2024 1:27 utc | 276
I can see the Ukrainians wanting to do it and screwing it up when they try.
Remember the Vindmans?

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 16 2024 1:39 utc | 245

The Ukranians have 17 (seventeen) brigades of various kinds near the Kursk border. I estimate that they are 60% complete, given the hardships they have gone through so far, there are approximately 50,000 pairs of boots on the ground. A good opportunity to purge the Ukranian forces a little more; one thing I wonder is where they found this force? Where were they hidden? How did they move them? Discarding teleportation, there are 2 cases:
1) Someone turned a blind eye, so it’s treason!
2) The Russians had understood everything and took advantage of it to give the Donbass front a good shake.
I’m inclined to the second and this coming and going of Ukranian reserves is nothing more than another scene in the sad Ukranian theater.
automatic translation

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Sep 16 2024 1:43 utc | 246

@ Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 16 2024 1:27 utc | 276 who wrote

Guys and Gals – if the REAL string pullers wanted Trump dead he would be long gone by now. This is all opera bouffa.

I agree. They have to keep the wheels spinning in the video game so none look away.
As a side note about Ukraine, this past Saturday was the first time that the Ukraine supporters were not at the other end of the courthouse block when I was there supporting Palestine…..Hmmmm.
The shit show continues until it doesn’t and I hope to be alive to see that day.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 16 2024 1:46 utc | 247

RE: “It is clear Russia cannot defend it’s own borders from invasion by a very weakened Ukraine, nor eradicate or extricate the Ukr forces from Kursk”.
Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:00 utc | 264
Actually what’s really “clear” is Ukraine has permanently lost 20% of it’s used-to-be borders/territories and soon more.
Ukraine has hodge podge “companies” stranded and abandoned all over Kursk and is about to lose more territory.
But yeah, stick with your “Russia inept” stuff.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 16 2024 1:46 utc | 248

Posted by: Adriatic Hillbilly | Sep 16 2024 1:27 utc | 276
I can see the Ukrainians wanting to do it and screwing it up when they try.
Remember the Vindmans?
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 16 2024 1:39 utc | 279
Like the leadership in kiev have screwed everything up for the people of ukraine since 2014.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2024 1:48 utc | 249

LEMMNING1 | Sep 16 2024 1:43 utc | 280
According to the Ukraine telegram channels, forces are still being pulled from the old frontlines to send to Kursk. It appears the Kursk offensive will continue until the British obtain the US go ahead to use long range weapons against Russia.
I assume Russia is happy enough with that state of affairs with the civilians evacuated as attacking forces are much easier to destroy than forces in prepared defense positions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 1:51 utc | 250

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 23:14 utc | 237
Sorry everyone. I’m a bit too crotchety as usual. Will try to do better but hard to change at my age.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 1:52 utc | 251

Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 1:52 utc | 285
Username troll again.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 1:54 utc | 252

As a side note about Ukraine, this past Saturday was the first time that the Ukraine supporters were not at the other end of the courthouse block when I was there supporting Palestine. ***
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 16 2024 1:46 utc | 281
Interesting note Hari Seldon. Another little indicator that Harris the brilliant and strong peacemaker is scheduled to arrive in mid to late October …

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 16 2024 1:56 utc | 253

about being in a true bind with no where to go
But yeah, stick with your “Russia inept” stuff.
Tip: When confronted with questions and complex situations that are far beyond your intelligence capacity to handle you would appear less stupid dismissive and incompetent by remaining silent. I think you should try it.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 2:00 utc | 254

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 1:52 utc | 285
Fewer words than I used, but perfectly understandable and shareable.
automatic translation

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Sep 16 2024 2:00 utc | 255

The Vindmans mentioned up thread a bit? I assume this is the one…. wikipedia

In July 2020, Vindman retired after 21 years in the military. He cited vengeful behavior and bullying by President Trump and administration officials after he complied with a subpoena to testify in front of Congress during Trump’s impeachment hearings. At the time of his retirement, Vindman’s promotion to the rank of colonel had been abnormally stalled by the administration.[7][8] In February 2022, he unsuccessfully sued several Trump allies, alleging that they had intimidated and retaliated against him while he testified in Congress.[9][10][11]
Early life and education
Alexander Semyon Vindman (né Aleksandr Semyonovich Vindman) and his identical twin brother Yevgeny were born in the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Soviet Union to a Jewish family.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 2:02 utc | 256

Melaleuca #271
Hmm… have you [AI] just committed instances of agreement and tacit flattery [towards JB]?

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 16 2024 2:05 utc | 257

Jake Blanchard | Sep 16 2024 2:05 utc | 292
…you never answered
Sorry. Not seen. That’s one of the [many] [and obviously intended] by-products of threads destroyed by troll sewerage (and genuine posters who simply can’t resist adding to the stinky mess).
I’ll reply later in the open thread.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 16 2024 2:17 utc | 258

Jake Blanchard | Sep 16 2024 2:05 utc | 292
Looks like you just committed the egregious fault of presenting ” inconsequential thought bubbles “ and a dire Off-Topic calamity. This is the Ukraine thread not the CWA and not the property surrounded by the beautiful Melaleuca Genus of bottlebrushes, paperbarks, honey myrtles, tea trees, and south african railway sleepers thread.
Thank you. Please do better. Being mindful of Glass Houses and all the Stone Throwing intentionally disruptive trolls and habitual contrarians like your good self. (Grin)
I mean, clealry what MoA definitely needs more of are Haughty Self-Appointed Mind Police and Off-Topic Trolls!
/sarc

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 2:18 utc | 259

Looks like Trump is going to make good on his claim to end the Ukraine War by Inauguration Day.
The line of corruption runs long and deep in the US-Ukraine collusion. Recall the so-called Russian hacking of the DNC computers supposedly by Russia but in reality by Ukraine, the good Ukrainian and US LT Colonel Vindman and his collusion story leading to the Mueller SPECIAL counsel investigation, untold investigations by Menbers of Congress, Trump withholding of funds to Ukraine because of corruption in 2019, the Impeachments, and now with the second attempted assassination of Trump the link between this potential assassin and a pro-Ukrainian NYT journalist who assisted with the development of the Ukraine Foreign Legion and its recruiting. Also, somewhere Hunter and the rest of the Bidens and a few other P-Dem are involved but I can’t the interlinkages now.
Buttered or not?

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 16 2024 2:20 utc | 260

that sandy person said-
“If all commenters would simply ignore troll posts, the site would not be sabotaged”
Ah yes but that would require the precondition of intelligent logic, critical thinking skills, and self control all of which do not exist here in any measurable quantity.
Yours Sincerely,
An Habitual Contrarian

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 2:23 utc | 261

The line of corruption runs long and deep in the US-Ukraine collusion. Recall the so-called Russian hacking of the DNC computers supposedly by Russia but in reality by Ukraine, the good Ukrainian and US LT Colonel Vindman and his collusion story leading to the Mueller SPECIAL counsel investigation, untold investigations by Menbers of Congress, Trump withholding of funds to Ukraine because of corruption in 2019, the Impeachments, and now with the second attempted assassination of Trump the link between this potential assassin and a pro-Ukrainian NYT journalist who assisted with the development of the Ukraine Foreign Legion and its recruiting. Also, somewhere Hunter and the rest of the Bidens and a few other P-Dem are involved but I can’t the interlinkages now.
Buttered or not?
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 16 2024 2:20 utc | 295
EXCELLENT!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 16 2024 2:25 utc | 262

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:38 utc | 278
>>>Though may I point out you did overlook the ‘obsessive-compulsive unintelligent illogical conspiracy theorists’ and the ‘intentionally disruptive trolls’ from your list.
* Yes I did, plus the limelight-deprived-syndrome retired academics; pedantic OCD war historians; last century’s voodoo economics professors; extremely well-read geopolitical theorists who probably couldn’t make a nice cup of tea; argumentative pompous general know-alls who just need to have the last word [a barbed shout out to James M]; semi-educated Balkan teens; those who know the current price of gold but not a loaf of bread; too many to list all the mental affectations of social media opinionistas. 🙂
>>>Could you please list who you consider the ‘sensible and intelligent posters’ to be sure everyone is on the same page here. Thank you.
* Sarcasm, y/n? Lol. But nope. Ya gotta figure that out for yourself through the hard knocks of personal experience!

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 16 2024 2:28 utc | 263

Reuters has a posting up with the title
Russian bomb strikes Kharkiv apartment building, one dead, 42 injured, officials say
I wonder who the very important dead person is?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 16 2024 2:31 utc | 264

Trump is the one chance for empire to change.
Posted by: paddy | Sep 15 2024 19:36 utc | 153
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Optimistic or naive?
You do know that the “Golden Don” is an avowed Zionist and the murderer of Soleimani, right?
It’s business as usual. Has Trump said ANYTHING about the J6 supporters of his who have been tortured and are still being denied due process?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2024 2:38 utc | 265

All I did was to suggest a way people could stay in contact if this forum was brought down by cyberattacks.
Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2024 21:40 utc | 205
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Pal, you have neither the credibility or gravitas to spin traffic off of MoA, regardless of how well-intentioned you may be.
Leave it Simplicous or someone with reputation to make announcements on b’s behalf.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2024 2:50 utc | 266

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 2:18 utc | 294
Mate, I consider a small amount of levity and interpersonalisation between friendly members (which, sure, some will consider OT) a harmless and enjoyable use of this space. Maybe, overall, 30% of posts are strictly re Ukraine SMO, and remember this is “Ukraine Open 220” not one initiated by a Bernard Editorial.
And, there is a massive difference between dozens of way off-topic long egotistical rants as opposed to my short throwaways to compatriots. Let’s not be too anal about these things.
Fyi, Off-Topicism is a subject I have closely observed since I was a BBS forum moderator in 1994. No one topic can ever remain pure to its original subject. All discussion topics and life events interweave to some extent. In forums such as MoA, *self moderation* is the norm. Sure, not perfect, but that is what *Bernard allows*.
And then of course, there are Forum Meta Discussions, ie discussions about the forum itself, its members, behaviours, etc. They too are technically “off topic” from the heading, but also belong where they occur.
It’s complex … and imperfect! My original suggestion was just that — not any attempt to play policeman. Cheers.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 16 2024 2:57 utc | 268

It seems that trolls and the occasional “live sex model girls” poster are the price we have to pay for a free speech zone.
B has generously given us a place to comment without Big Tech Shitbirds censoring or using crapified AI.
The day is coming when Dima, Weeb, and Suriyak get deplatformed. Enjoy them while you can. Big Tech is a boot about to stomp on the face of humanity.
Deep State maps signed a contract with the Ukrainian government. Wouldn’t you love to see what clauses are in that? Figure it out for yourselves.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 16 2024 2:58 utc | 269

(smile) @ Jake B 298 / 303 (Enfield).
It’s all good. Your additional ‘plus’ list I think I already block; for sanity cleanliness purposes.
My sincere query underneath the humour is does the signal to noise ration of a hypothetical 15 X ‘sensible and intelligent posters’ versus the several hundred Others in a day equate as rational and worth it?
But if your stuck on a small boat with nothing to do but fish each according to their own needs. Personally I see MoA as a huge wasted opportunity to be something it isn’t.
Yours Sincerely,
Another Habitual Contrarian
(With the evidence to back it up)

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 3:01 utc | 270

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 1:13 utc | 270
######
I answered this yesterday. Russia “loses” if Putin doesn’t demilitarize AND de-Nazify Ukraine.
So long as he does that, he will have had a victory.
Btw, Ukraine is going to freeze this coming Winter. That’s when we’ll see hundreds of thousands of Refugees fleeing into Poland and the Baltics. Pity the elderly and poor who will not have the means to travel.
Rather than Storm Shadows, the West should find a way to provide more electricity to stave off the inevitable humanitarian disaster but like Ukraine wasting drones and ammunition on civilian targets, the Kiev regime doesn’t represent or protect the average citizen.
Demographically, Ukraine is a dead man walking and unless the Israeli Jews relocate, will not be able to change that.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2024 3:04 utc | 271

[Vaguely on-topic, but well considered thought bubble to share].
THE SHARPEST piece wit of this week. Still laughing 5 minutes later.
“Before you let Taylor Swift influence your vote, may I remind you that 90% of her hit songs are about choosing the wrong person,” reads a trending meme on X.
Rotflmao.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 16 2024 3:08 utc | 272

BTW, since it seems that half-cocked speculation is in vogue at the bar lately, what if the Neocon/Neolib Deep State was behind the latest attempt to kill Trump (just like the last one)? It would be a two-fer- Trump dead by a pro-Ukrainian assassin… talk about an off-ramp from Ukraine!
Posted by: Honzo | Sep 16 2024 1:01 utc | 265
Lately? Try Fully-Cocked Conspiratorial Speculation and Fact Free Conjecture 24/7 for years!
Where ‘Honzo the Clown’ often leads the pack with the crazy conspiracy theories. You would not know what “evidence” looked like if it was handed to you on a silver platter. We’re you a movie extra on the set of One flew over the Cuckoos Nest perchance?
aka – “Oh my precious free speech allows me to be a dribbling inconsequential troll talking mindless illogical gibberish in public 24/7” – Good for you. Wonderful. I’m happy for you. I really am. It keeps you off the streets and causing problems. But this is enough and is where I block you, because I choose not to see this kind of crap.
Yabba Dabba Doo!

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 3:18 utc | 273

Personally I see MoA as a huge wasted opportunity to be something it isn’t.
Escobar | Sep 16 2024 3:01 utc | 305

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 16 2024 3:18 utc | 274

Larry Johnson has a piece on the VOA hit job which Martyanov had linked to. This section in Larry’s piece is interesting. The hit on Johnson basically links back to MI6.
https://sonar21.com/ukrainian-assassins-running-amuck/
“VOA published an article written by Leonid Martynyuk, a protege and benefactor of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the one-time Russian oligarch turned British intelligence asset.”
Johnson also has some of Routh’s social media, I think twitter postings, up. One is his happy snaps from when he was in Kiev.
Fico, the EU assassination threats to the Georgia PM, The VOA hit job on Johnson and this attempt on Trump – regardless of Trump not being in the same category as the first three, all enemies of the US globalist faction, the Brits and the European elites. I left the takedown of Ritter out as that at least had the figleaf of legit.
The five-eyes alliance is used to by pass all individual nation laws within five-eyes and this is where MI6 ect often come into play.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 3:45 utc | 275

Posted by: Micron | Sep 16 2024 3:07 utc | 307

why the special 3-day military operation is now on day 862.

Well to be pedantic it is on day 935 actually.
That it dragged way longer that we anticipated and hoped for, that is for sure.
Ukrainians are really tough.

Posted by: hopehely | Sep 16 2024 3:51 utc | 276

I’m guessing that the USA has left the British government to twist in the wind because the Russian Federation military got on the phone with the American military and was the opposite of vague when they laid out how they would respond to British missiles guided by American technology. I think they clearly presented the escalation ladder they’d follow, and the Houthis firing a hypersonic came after the Russian Federation said arming Western foes with advanced kit would be step one.
The Biden administration can’t afford to have American bases in Syria and Iraq under attack by unstoppable missile and drone barrages a month before election day. The bluff would be for Biden to imply he’s prepared to take things nuclear, but Putin isn’t blinking, so the administration wisely decided to not make that play.
Imo, the American military has weighed in. And while civilian leadership is supreme, if the military leaks that they think lunatics are in charge, that would be it for the current government come election day.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Sep 16 2024 4:04 utc | 277

Video of Routh being interviews in Romania in 2022. The link was in the comments at Martyanov’s blog.
https://x.com/OurEarthAffairs/status/1835442766584967617?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 4:24 utc | 278

Paleologos | Sep 16 2024 3:52 utc | 313
Do you have a link for that?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 4:25 utc | 279

um, hopehely
“why the special 3-day military operation is now on day 862.
Well to be pedantic it is on day 935 actually.
That it dragged way longer that we anticipated and hoped for, that is for sure.
Ukrainians are really tough.”
If Russia thought this would be only 3days, why is their industry and economy annd even technology outperforming that of NAZO? Russia have been preparing for this for 3 decades while NAZO were on a wild multidecadal goose chase in the Middle East fighting Iraq at the behest of Israel.
Ukrainians tough? Well being the obedient victims in NAZO’s Jonestown Ukraine is tough on them for sure.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Sep 16 2024 4:38 utc | 280

Another US MQ9 drone was shot down over Dhamar Governorate, in Yemen. This is the 3rd MQ9 being shot down in the past 10 days, and the 10th one since October last year.
So if impoverished 3rd world goat headers wearing rags on their heads can shoot down US MQ9 drones at will, then what is Russia’s miserable excuse for not being able to do so around Ukraine and Russia? No matter whose territory they may be flying above.
The US are never going to declare war, invade nor launch nukes at Russia over a MQ9 drone.
No offense to Arab goat herders, a very honorable profession, but Yemen Houthis are not up there with the power, arms and skill of the professional Russian Army versus MQ9 Drones flying by.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 4:39 utc | 281

Escobar | Sep 16 2024 4:39 utc | 318
Piss off troll

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 4:41 utc | 282

Borzzikman is saying that Russia have nuclear submarines in place already to deliver retaliation against the UK in the case of their SS missile strikes in Russia:
https://youtu.be/-FRPXf0mrHA?si=h5xFYN6Sjgo1VU3A

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Sep 16 2024 4:41 utc | 283

Trump will not only end Ukraine assistance and war but dismantle overseas US bases (not much choice there because of the dollar condition towards the end of the decade). So Ukraine and war mongrels supporting it cannot let Trump win
Deep strikes into Russia means total war all the way to Odessa with full global south support. Good bye Black Sea

Posted by: Joe | Sep 16 2024 4:48 utc | 284

Andrew Sarchus | Sep 16 2024 4:41 utc | 320
Only a few days into the SMO, Russian nuclear forced were pt on some sort of special duty, I forget Putin’s exact words but basically full combat conditions/alert.
Not because of the US. Putin stated it was because of what was being talked about in British circles. The idiot Brits have been living under that sword since and will be the first to go if anything kicks off.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 4:48 utc | 285

Babel, the lunatics are in charge. The US military HQ do not have to tell anyone. And the Supporters of the lunatics wouldn’t believe the military anyway.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 4:58 utc | 286

Babel-17 | Sep 16 2024 4:04 utc | 314
There was phone call by the Russian defense minister to the US counterpart not too long back.
Russian media said it was about an assassination attempt at Putin but the official statement on the phone call said nothing of the sort. I think that had a lot to to with what we are seeing now with US refusal to allow various weapons to be used against Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 5:20 utc | 288

Jimmy Dore
@jimmy_dore
https://x.com/mundoeconflict/MundoEConflicto/status/1835441125446082693/video/1
This is Donald Trump assassination attempt suspect Ryan Wesley Routh, he was interviewed by Newsweek Romania in 2022.
He’s a zealot for Ukraine war because he’s been fully propagandized by corporate media to support the war.
He has ZERO idea what the war is actually about, his mind is very childlike: “It’s a battle of good vs evil”, just like the corporate news told him.
That’s how propaganda works. That’s why i warned TYT about pushing Russiagate , it would lead to a war, and brainwashed guys like this.
He has no idea what the war is actually about , so when Trump & RFK say they want to END the war, he thinks the moral thing to do is assassinate Trump.
This is the direct result of corporate news & “independent” news repeating pro-war CIA talking points uncritically.
Nobody in corporate news will ask “Where was he radicalized?”, because if you watch this video, it’s clear he was radicalized by corporate news right here in the United States.

Also has video of the clown at the link. These types are like drug mules. Dumb as dogshit and used as such.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 5:31 utc | 289

Forgot to post the link https://x.com/jimmy_dore/status/1835467535959159141

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 5:32 utc | 290

Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
EXCLUSIVE: Attempted Trump assassin Ryan Routh appeared in a propaganda video for the AZOV BATTALLION in May 2022
https://x.com/JackPosobiec/status/1835493731639636383
The scumbag appears at the 1.50 mark in the video. Worth watching the video he takes part in.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 6:10 utc | 291

Trump was totally powerless during his 4 yrs in office. He became a more vicious neocon than McCain. 12 wks after his inauguration he bombed Syria for no reason–sobbed over fake photos of children from US-backed jihadists in Idlib. WaPo patted him on the head. In Aug. 2017 congress removed all Russia matters from him. Russian PM Medvedev commented: “Any hope of improving our relations with the new U.S. administration is over….The Trump administration demonstrated it is utterly powerless, and in the most humiliating manner, transferred executive powers to Congress…The American establishment completely outplayed Trump.”…In July 2017 Don went on tv and said he changed his mind about endless Mideast wars, now thinks they’re necessary. He approved lethal weapons to Ukraine in 2017-which even Obama wouldn’t do. Trump was elected in Nov. 2016 for #1, promising a wall on day 1, and #2, favoring detente w Russia and reduced US military intervention. His voters were nullified. Since then all he does is brag about how Putin loves him and he tells Putin all the time that he’s going to bomb Moscow. No one talks about how Russia was taken away from him, how he’ll be powerless again, they hope you won’t remember. Trump is a phony and a clown. US is effectively a military dictatorship anyway….8/6/2017, Alastair Crooke…https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/06/playing-politics-with-the-worlds-future/

Posted by: susan mullen | Sep 16 2024 6:18 utc | 292

“So I’ve been told that the “incursion” into Kursk People’s Republic was over, yet it’s still going strong. What happened?”
b lied like usual is what happened.
Posted by: Micron | Sep 15 2024 16:37 utc | 70
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So tell me: where is “The Kursk People’s Republic”?
Do you mean the 11,600 sq mile Kursk Region of the Russian Federation that has a population of 1,066,300 (2023), which Region is part of the Central Federal District Area of the Russian Federation/

Posted by: Moscow Exile | Sep 16 2024 6:28 utc | 293

@ Milites, §159:
“Laser gyroscopes”?
How do they work?
Light has no inertia.
Posted by: John Marks | Sep 15 2024 20:32 utc | 175

I’m not sure about “laser gyroscopes”, but today’s photons ain’t your grandad’s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_angular_momentum_of_light
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_vortex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_tweezers
Toroidal Vortices of Light (this last are basically photon-smoke-rings)
and we’re not even discussing entangled photons yet…

Posted by: retroflecks | Sep 16 2024 6:47 utc | 294

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Summary for the Morning of 16 September 2024; 06:37 (GMT+3)⚡️
🎯Geran UAVs operated at night in #BelayaTserkva, #Fastov, #Obukhov, #Kiev, #Dnepropetrovsk, #Kanev, #Cherkassy region, #Khmelnisky, #Zhitomir, #Vinnitsa regions.
🔹In the #Kursk region, footage of our units in the village of #Borki, Sudzhansky district indicates the success of the Russian Army not only from the western side of the AFU’s penetration into the region, but also from the eastern side. From the west, the RFAF are pressing in the area of #Lyubimovka. There are reports of intense fighting in the south of the Glushkovsky district near the village of #Veseloye, where the enemy recently crossed the border. There are reports of fighting in the village of #Medvezhye. There are separate reports about the presence of the AFU in the village of #Krasnooktyabrsky near the border.
🔹In the #Kharkov direction, fighting continues in the town of #Volchansk. During the day the RFAF foiled 6 attempts to transfer reserves to the right bank of the Volchya River. One counterattack by the AFU in the area of multi-storey buildings was repelled. In the Liptsy direction, the fighters of the North Group repelled 1 AFU attack in the area of the #Glubokoye village. 2 attempts to move out of the Liptsy village have been foiled.
🔹In the #Kupyansk direction, the zone of control near #Sinkovka and southwest of #Peschanoye was expanded. There is fighting near #Tabayevka.
🔹North of #ChasovYar, fighting continues at #Grigorovka. The RFAF are pulling up their flanks along the line of the Seversky Donets-Donbass Canal.
🔹In the #Pokrovsk direction, the RFAF continue to strike at bridges and overpasses, reducing the enemy’s logistical capabilities. Our units are advancing along the Ukrainsk – Mikhaylovka line. North and east of #Ostroye, fighting continues with varying degrees of success.
🔹In the #Ugledar direction, the Russian Army is destroying enemy positions in the mines🎬👆and expanding the zone of control near #Vodyanoye.
🔹On the #Zaporozhye front, without significant changes. Fighting in the area of #Rabotino – #Verbovoye. Positional battles in the #Orekhov direction.
💥In #Belgorod region, our air defence system worked over Belgorod district. An UAV was shot down and a civilian was wounded in #Razumnoye settlement. In the Shebekinsky urban district in the village of #NovayaTavolzhanka as a result of a drone attack there were fires in 5 outbuildings and 1 private house. In the Grayvoron urban district in the village of #Kozinka, 4 private houses and 2 outbuildings burned down as a result of a drone attack. A kamikaze drone attack damaged the roof of a private house in the village of #Baytsury, Borisovsky district.

https://t.me/two_majors/31888

Posted by: Down South | Sep 16 2024 6:47 utc | 295

Long-range attacks on the Russian hinterland.
Now Unkaine is known for targeting civilian targets, which in this case can backfire massively for you!
Imagine you hit a shopping center and maybe a school, kindergarten, etc.
IMMEDIATELY the entire south plus 90% of the BRICS countries would show understanding if Putin hit back HUGELY.
So the effect achieved is that the West wants to provoke in order to get BRICS and & away from Russia.
And the stupid Sylenski is capable of anything to save his own life when it comes to civilian targets, which by the way must have been programmed by NATO states! If they deny this, which they will 100% do, they are admitting that Ukraine must have its own specialists who can program these things or circumvent their programs.
But whatever! Civilian targets and the mood of the world are on Putin’s side, even for a nuclear strike in NATO countries, so as a deterrent, THAT’S ENOUGH

Posted by: ossi | Sep 16 2024 6:48 utc | 296

LoveDonbass | Sep 16 2024 3:04 utc | 306
“Demographically, Ukraine is a dead man walking and unless the Israeli Jews relocate, will not be able to change that.”
Well the “Menorah Center” in Dnipro is called the “New Jerusalem” so maybe the idea actually exists as a possibility.

Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 16 2024 6:49 utc | 297

Our source reports that the Head of the Presidential Office Yermak is preparing show raids on the Zemobilization case.
The raids will be on VIP restaurants and there is an order for the TSK workers to detain “rich” draft dodgers with “purchased papers”. The topic will be widely disseminated in the media. The scriptwriters of the 95th quarter have already come up with a plot.
There is too much demand in society for this case to ignore it.Bankovaya again wants to sell the people the illusion of justice.

https://t.me/legitimniy/18712

Posted by: Down South | Sep 16 2024 6:54 utc | 298

I’m guessing that the USA has left the British government to twist in the wind because the Russian Federation military got on the phone with the American military and was the opposite of vague when they laid out how they would respond to British missiles guided by American technology. I think they clearly presented the escalation ladder they’d follow, and the Houthis firing a hypersonic came after the Russian Federation said arming Western foes with advanced kit would be step one.
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Posted by: Babel-17 | Sep 16 2024 4:04 utc | 314
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This is in keeping with the fact that the USA has withdrawn ALL aircraft carriers from this area. And this is much to Israel’s displeasure.
They must be seriously worried about their fleet

Posted by: ossi | Sep 16 2024 6:57 utc | 299

Kursk direction on the morning of 16.09.24: results of the sixth day of our offensive…
In general, yesterday showed that our command coped with the enemy’s attempts to break through to the rear of our group advancing on the right wing of the Kursk direction. And even after overcoming this operational crisis, it was able to resume offensive actions in the Lyubimovka area. But the enemy is still defending stubbornly and has not finished its attacks south of Glushkovo.
Let’s start with the Glushkovo area. Yesterday, our units counterattacked the enemy out of Vesyoloye, and throughout the day there was a stubborn battle on the southern outskirts of the village, where the Ukrainian Armed Forces had consolidated themselves in the area of ​​the nearby village of Obukhovka. We also managed to push the enemy back in the Medvezhye area. But he, in turn, managed to occupy the village of Krasnooktyabrsky, located to the west of the border.
In the Korenevsky sector, three days after reaching the outskirts of Lyubimovka, our units were finally able to consolidate their position in its western part and are trying to move on. At the same time, we entered Olgovka and Kremyanaya, the battles for which continue.
Moreover, this is already forcing the enemy to pull back its forces from the northern pocket so that they do not end up surrounded in the future.
In the Sudzhansky direction, our units completely cleared the village of Borki yesterday and are trying to dislodge the enemy from the forests to the south.
In general, our offensive, despite the desperate attempts of the enemy, including counteroffensives. So far continues.
Keep your fingers crossed and pray for the guys.

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Posted by: Down South | Sep 16 2024 7:02 utc | 300