The plot thickens:

The British government has said they require the approval of both the US and France before allowing the full use of Storm Shadows by Ukrainian forces.
However, that is not absolutely correct, The Times reported, citing sources who said the missile risks being intercepted by Russian air defences or diverted off-course without US GPS technology.
Defence officials said the missiles do not fly straight to their target but are effectively “threaded through the eye of a needle” using GPS and terrain mapping data.
uk press)

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 15 2024 13:27 utc | 3

Posted by: AI_Revenger | Sep 15 2024 13:21 utc | 2
Is it “still going strong” though? Have the Ukrainian forces captured the NPP yet? Or has it morphed into Ukraine desperately and blindly trying to shore up a catastrophic failure?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 15 2024 13:30 utc | 5

So I’ve been told that the “incursion” into Kursk People’s Republic was over, yet it’s still going strong. What happened?
Posted by: AI_Revenger | Sep 15 2024 13:21 utc | 2
Yes. It ended. Theyre not “incursing” anymore because they cant. In fact, theyre now losing ground….as predicted.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Sep 15 2024 13:38 utc | 7

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 15 2024 13:27 utc | 3
Britain has already given hundreds, up to 600 Storm Shadow missiles since May 2023. Hundreds have been spent, mostly on the Crimean bridge. The Russians learned so much of these missiles.
The Russians cover their important military targets, so obviously they will use Storm shadows on civilian targets.
The real reason why ‘no permission’ is given is lack of F-16 platforms. Russia destroyed all arming base efforts in Ukraine, forcing NATO to resort arming them in Poland, making those Polish bases targets, which Putin mainly warned about.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2024 13:43 utc | 9

Sice yesterday Russian media RT and Sputnik are censored and unreachable in the EU.
So much for freedom of speech and information in our democratic societies.

Posted by: magicmirror | Sep 15 2024 13:48 utc | 11

Passerby, I believe it was Larry Johnson who said that Russia is like the Borg in Star Trek. You get 3 shots and then they adapt. It is the same thing for western GPS guided weapons being used in Ukraine. The next level of escalation should the west decide it is a good idea to use these weapons against Russia inside Russia might include 1) giving hypersonic anti-ship missiles to the Houti, Hezbollah, and Iran, 2) shooting down all manned AWACs aircraft as target opportunities permit, and/or 3) shoot down all western military satellites being used to find that path that avoids Russian air defenses. Russia, unlike NATO, can operate completely fine without satellite intelligence. A next level also might include some underwater drone attacks on British harbors containing capital ships, the same for nuclear ballistic submarines, and possibly attacks on NATOI infrastructure such as Ramstein AFB. They could do this with conventional warheads or possibly if warranted tactical nuclear weapons. I think it was for this reason the US is shying away from this kind of escalation. NATO is a paper tiger and extremely weak which cannot be revealed to the masses.

Posted by: Old Microbiologist | Sep 15 2024 13:57 utc | 13

Tichy(czech -silent) are you grandson/great grandson of Czech bolshevik??? your preoccupation with Marx/ F*Trotsky is more than silly….no Tichy….you are Noisy commie !!!!!

Posted by: sejmon | Sep 15 2024 14:03 utc | 15

I can’t help thinking that it’s not just pointless, it’s ridiculous to respond to anyone with ‘AI’ in their handle. Only the ‘artificial’ part is accurate.

Posted by: Honzo | Sep 15 2024 14:16 utc | 17

The last Ukraine thread was pretty wild with all the troll/imposter posts. I’ve only posted here once before and while polite, I was also somewhat critical of Russian strategy, so you might think I’m a troll, too. Can’t disprove it so take what I’m about to say with a grain of salt.
I’ve observed a significant increase in trolling and belligerent posts across a number of platforms recently. Birds of a feather as they say, so it’s rare to see lots of leftists hanging out on right-wing boards or lots of pro-Ukrainians hanging out on pro-Russian forums. It’s psychologically impactful – and just not inherently enjoyable – to have strangers insulting and contradicting you repeatedly, even if you tell yourself that their opinions don’t matter. As such, most people naturally just avoid forums which run against their Zeitgeist and insulate amongst likeminded thinkers. But AI doesn’t suffer that problem. You can’t insult a bot or make it feel embarrassed or frustrated or stupid. And so they’re relentless.
In connection, take a look at “Durably reducing conspiracy beliefs through dialogues with AI”: (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adq1814) and perhaps give some consideration to the possibility that this forum is being specifically targeted for thought modification. Presently there’s no proof that this is happening on MoA, but it’s perhaps something to keep an eye on. Cheers.

Posted by: Joy Polloi | Sep 15 2024 14:23 utc | 19

Joy Polloi | Sep 15 2024 14:23 utc | 19
Regardless of your starting bullshit it’s “Piss off troll”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 14:26 utc | 21

“So I’ve been told that the “incursion” into Kursk People’s Republic was over, yet it’s still going strong. What happened?”
Posted by: AI_Retard | Sep 15 2024 13:21 utc | 2
You have been misinformed by your handlers-Ukraine is getting its soldiers and equipment destroyed in Kursk-IMO the invasion is somewhere between a failure and a joke.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 15 2024 14:38 utc | 23

VOA on Larry Johnson.
“Russian state media amplify ex-CIA analyst’s false claims to promote pro-Kremlin narratives”
https://www.voanews.com/a/russian-state-media-amplify-ex-cia-analyst-s-false-claims-to-promote-pro-kremlin-narratives/7783062.html
Goering

“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

So bloody simple and effective that people dismiss this well known fact and are then easily led off to war.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 14:40 utc | 25

That’s the trouble with AI. You can tell it to “f^^k off a^^hole” but its feelings aren’t hurt. Not like HAL in 2001 Space Odyssey, which did seem to tragically sense its impending doom…

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 15 2024 14:52 utc | 27

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 14:40 utc | 25
Bad news for Larry. Hes about to get the ritter treatment. Voa is us gov funded

Posted by: Feck | Sep 15 2024 14:55 utc | 29

Tichy | Sep 15 2024 14:52 utc | 28
The majority, that is anything over 50%, do believe it. Especially throughout five-eyes.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 14:56 utc | 31

Passerby@1411
Priorities…on the part of the governments of the Collectivized Wa$te. Pence on the Pound, Pennies on the Dollar for struggling pensioners posed against the “Investor” class which is heavily locked into the WARDEFENSE industry. In the 20’s and into the 30’s the operative term for these parasitical hyenas was “BLOOD MONEY”.
That term told it like it is…no beating around the bush.
Mealy mouthed pro$titicians and Mass Media whores spin out the rhetoric to defend those insane policies…all on behalf of .0001% of the human population within the West.
In huge numbers, though, millions of us common folk who are NOT of the Investor Class, are finally waking up and smelling the stench of those misplaced priorities controlling taxpayer mulcting along with inflationary central bank$ter printing presses.
Tens of millions of the Great Awakeners realize that we are being screwed, jooed and tattooed by these inhuman slavemasters.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 15 2024 15:01 utc | 33

The majority, that is anything over 50%, do believe it. Especially throughout five-eyes.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 14:56 utc | 31
Actually that’s kinda my point. I don’t think they do. It’s like my mother. My mother is a Fascist. And I talked to her, and she was adamant that yes, Russia blew up their own pipeline. And I told her, “how the hell can you even make that statement? It makes no sense!”… and she just went “well, Russians are crazy.”
But I saw it in her eyes, she didn’t believe it. She knew she was lying, yet she kept lying.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 15 2024 15:03 utc | 35

magicmirror@1348
True. Without constitutions containing Bills of Rights or similar guarantees for the subjects of those European entities; anything even vaguely resembling the First Amendment has never existed in all of Europe, with the notable exception of Iceland and to a minor degree, Switzerland.
Neither RT, nor Sputnik are particularly powerful in their stances. However, the declining control-mechanisms devouring the people of the Collective Wa$te are in the hands of deep Insiders who have become extremely nervous about those subjects wandering “Off Message” wherever the false narratives they have long imposed upon their populations are being eroded by outside information sources.
To the ruling elite, including the Ancient Imperial Rome centered Old Black Nobility and the Babylonian Talmudist genociders; “off message” information is totally taboo.
Their fear is showing. That is becoming obvious to those who pay close attention to evident reality.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 15 2024 15:13 utc | 37

the third K
Posted by: Milites | Sep 15 2024 15:04 utc | 36
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Kupiansk

Posted by: too scents | Sep 15 2024 15:19 utc | 39

Tichy | Sep 15 2024 15:03 utc | 35
No. People like that believe what they are saying. I see it as stemming from racism.
Rascism is something like being afraid of the dark. People with another language, another culture are an unknown and that scares most. It how people are so easily drawn into wars.
I found that when with people of different language, different culture, I have that feeling. With me it stems from not knowing who may be a crook, a conman ect and who is decent and honest.
I generally tread carefully, both wary, yet being careful not to disrespect others culture. In Ganzhou I caught by a counterfeiter thinking he was was the hotel employee that was going to pick me up from the rail station.
On another occasion though, I think it might have been in HongKong, at the airport I went outside for a smoke while we waited. When I came back in I saw a couple of oddball young women had cornered my daughter and had he in discussion. I hurried over and stood between them and my daughter and asked what they were about. Some bullshit about doing a university survey. They were very obviously working for some sex slave group so told them bluntly to fuck off.
But in talking to those about me here, there virtually always either a fear of the unknown other or contempt for the unknown other. Often it is not at the surface, but virtually always, one or other of those deep held opinions/biases comes to the surface.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 15:21 utc | 41

Passerby@1327
Most of us here on MoA are fully mindful of the fact that all those long-range missiles which would be able to strike deep into Russia happen to be “guided” by U.$. satellites. V.V. Putin has bluntly declared that such developments would be considered as ACTS OF WAR against the R.U.
So the handwriting on the wall is clearly legible. Likely that one single such incursion would result in those satellites being instantly compromised. The real rulers, lurking in the shadows, are seeing their best laid plans put to the test. Putin does not kid around. Without those satellites, the Western incursions and even defense of ill-gotten gains would go for naught.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 15 2024 15:28 utc | 43

A Storm Shadow missile costs about £2.54million. 600 missiles is enough to pay 5 million UK pensioners £300 Winter Fuel Allowance each.
Posted by: Passerby | Sep 15 2024 14:11 utc | 16
The method to launch all of them is the problem. The Macaron has sent many of his version too.
Bojo, Shapps, Wallace and others asked Starmer to hit Russia without US permission today. Russia made a mistake in the speech about long range strikes. They said these are Nato strikes because Ukr does not have means to guide them, it comes from Nato satellites. So if these useless technicalities are important, in 1-2 months Ukr will “own” satellites and “manufacture” anything nato wants to use. That is the wrong way to speak to Nato, if speaking is all you have. and considering the Macaron’s speech a few months ago that he wants to offer his nukes to “protect” all Europe, which the talking heads of youtube ignored, it won’t be long before Kiyyyiiv “manufactures” a few. After all, they were the first humans on Earth, inventors of fire, wheel and the d…o, right?

Posted by: rk | Sep 15 2024 15:35 utc | 45

Dogtired | Sep 15 2024 15:36 utc | 46
My sister told me straight that when making decisions, she has no interest in facts nor the history of the matter. She said straight out that she makes decisions based on emotions. And although she is interested in reading my emails on geopolitics, it is no way changes here ’emotions based’ decision making. It is not as if she is doing this unconsciously or unknowingly.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 15:46 utc | 47

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 15 2024 15:13 utc | 37
Masterful post-thank you.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 15 2024 15:52 utc | 49

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 15 2024 15:28 utc | 43
Storm Shadow has a triplicated guidance programme, each element of which could be justifiably deniable, to a lesser or larger degree, by a complicit West
1. Pre-programming target details and defences, this could be plausibly based on Ukrainian ISR capabilities.
2. Guided by GPS, bit tricky this one but, given Ukraine used such guidance programmes when attacking Russian State assets before, the excuse is probably one of Ukrainian ingenuity at adaption. Same as the iPads taped to the cockpit display stories, explaining Western assistance in the use of such munitions.
3. IR target images, a narrative of Ukrainian ISR in Russia is custom made for a P.R. Cover-campaign.
1 and 3 easy to explain, I’m sure cover for number 2 is already constructed.
If you see a slowing of the multiple-axes Russian advances then the CM threat is probably being used by the West to prevent Russia humiliating her proxy, and by extension, themselves.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 15 2024 16:04 utc | 51

Newsweek is only MSM in US reporting Bobby Kennedy call to “Biden” to stop long range missles
https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-ukraine-russia-long-range-missiles-1953835
Harris is laying in the basement low on this, avoiding Trump missiles. Again, strategy to neuter war vampire forces in State and hang their work on Biden – a strategy that emerged Sep 3 with Nuland interview.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 15 2024 16:16 utc | 53

The Russian economy is booming hence the Special Military Operation continues until all its goals are achieved.
b, watch out for some imposters infesting the bar using other people’s name and an extension of it. They should be blocked or removed.
The troll lineup from Peter AU1 and others: Noam A. Larkey, MiniMO, burak, Sam, Not Convinced, Fella, Surferket, Micron, Rubiconned, Fred, Jake Blanchard, sean the leprechaun, Rick Rubles, Ricky Rubles, Ricardo Rubleso, Richard Rublestein, Dick Dinero, Vladimir Putin, Konami, Wisco, AI_Revenger.

Posted by: AI | Sep 15 2024 16:21 utc | 55

Posted by: AI | Sep 15 2024 16:29 utc | 59
+++++++++++++++++++
I did not say this either, same imposter and his/her minions.

Posted by: AI | Sep 15 2024 16:31 utc | 57

just how will Russia disable those satellites?
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 15 2024 16:19 utc | 54
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There are orders of magnitude fewer downlink stations than there are satellites. They are fat stationary soft targets. The elimination of any single one requires propagating an update to the routing tables of the satellites, which takes a not insignificant amount of time.
The downlinks are the weakest link in satellite net-centric operations. By far.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 15 2024 16:33 utc | 59

Missile strike deep into Russia and even the bleeding hearts of global south will be convinced of the need for total war
Then Russia can let go of all restraints into a brutal killing mode, carpet bombing and showing no mercy all the way to Odessa
Wonder if Russians in Transnistria will play any role in Odessa liberation

Posted by: Joe | Sep 15 2024 16:35 utc | 61

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 15 2024 16:33 utc | 64
+++++++++++++++++
Probably is you who is using my name.
b, can we something about this?

Posted by: AI | Sep 15 2024 16:35 utc | 63

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 15 2024 15:13 utc | 37
The challenge to the official narrative is not fuelled by outside sources, but largely internal, which is why it is engendering such fear amongst its engineers. Every off-message meme and counter thread is visible evidence of their diminishing control of events and therefore their usefulness, which triggers doubts that are pure existential angst.
Control is a response to fear, the current wave of institutional weaponisations, SM bans and black-ops, and an obsession with sub-grouping information is evidence that they are beginning to shit their over-priced, tailored trousers.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 15 2024 16:39 utc | 65

Posted by: anonymous | Sep 15 2024 16:42 utc | 74
Why? So you can infest it too?

Posted by: anonymous | Sep 15 2024 16:43 utc | 67

re: “The troll lineup from Peter AU1 and others: Noam A. Larkey, MiniMO, burak, Sam, Not Convinced, Fella, Surferket, Micron, Rubiconned, Fred, Jake Blanchard, sean the leprechaun, Rick Rubles, Ricky Rubles, Ricardo Rubleso, Richard Rublestein, Dick Dinero, Vladimir Putin, Konami, Wisco, AI_Revenger”
…
Glad to see sane people still around in a sea of insanity

Posted by: flufharderputinista | Sep 15 2024 16:45 utc | 69

79 and the rest.
Haha if only words could defeat Russia you loudnouthed spambots would be in Moscow. But they don’t, and you’re still just sad rabid virgins unable to deal with the fact your pet nazis got their assholes blown out. You lost. Insert Nelson Muntz ‘Ha ha’ here.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 15 2024 16:48 utc | 71

Posted by: AI | Sep 15 2024 16:54 utc | 85
+++++++++++++++
I did not say that.

Posted by: AI | Sep 15 2024 16:57 utc | 73

I think Britain is quite vulnerable as to Crete and other bases. Russia could simply help Houthis or Hezbollah to hit them while maintaining some ambiguity.
I am tired of reading assertions about Ukraine having bravery and unity when Azov punisher/enforcers shoot them in the back otherwise. It’s ridiculous.
I read a Ukrainian apologist claiming that Russia can’t take big cities, just little villages. Didn’t Napolean do something like this? – such that big cities were surrounded and stuck in isolation – so they had to give up?

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 15 2024 17:01 utc | 75

The Netherlands not to transfer promised Patriot air defense system to Ukraine
The Netherlands will not transfer a Patriot air defense system to Ukraine due to the refusal of one of the country’s allies to participate in the supply.
NL Times reported this with reference to the Ministry of Defense of the Netherlands.
Initially, the Netherlands announced its intention to transfer the Patriot to Ukraine at the end of May. The Ministry of Defense assured that the country has the “main components” of the system, and the rest of the details were to be provided by other states.
In June, Kajsa Ollongren, then the defense minister, said that the Netherlands had found a country to help with the supply. It was planned to transfer a radar and at least three launchers to Ukraine.
However, the Dutch Ministry of Defense has now said that “the ally has not fulfilled an earlier commitment” regarding the supply. The Ministry of Defense did not specify which country it was referring to.

https://ukranews.com/en/news/1034354-the-netherlands-not-to-transfer-promised-patriot-air-defense-system-to-ukraine
Gotta love all that NATO unity and cohesion…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 15 2024 17:02 utc | 77

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 15 2024 17:02 utc | 90
They are horrified by the number of destroyed Patriot PAC-3 systems and NATO operating crews. Every day they schedule a new press conference to publicly promise a new system or two, three were hit meanwhile.
Plainly they are losing, covered up by weird stories and infighting and blamegames.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2024 17:06 utc | 79

https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/#post-colonelcassad-9383516
Extended Story Of Peter The Piglet
A Ukrainian parable. Peter encounters a Ukrainian recruiter – a wolf. The wolf says, “I f^^k your reserve+.” (Not sure what this means but is perhaps an exemption from military service of some kind). “Get in the van and let’s update the data.” In the next picture Peter is fleeing by car and the recruiter-wolf runs after him shouting, “Stop f^^king dodging!” In the next frame Peter is in a tractor and heading for the river Tisza, which is Ukraine’s border with Romania, Hungary and a bit of Slovakia. In the next picture he is crossing the border without problems. Then he is in Paris with the Eiffel Tower in the background. Finally Peter is at the keyboard, with a Ukrainian flag on the wall and a picture of Bandera. Clearly they also serve who troll on the Internet…

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 15 2024 17:09 utc | 81

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 15 2024 17:06 utc | 93
Indeed, this is what demilitarisation and attrition look like in practice, though some continue to scoff.
Somewhere, NATO flunkies are counting the available inventory and measuring that against forecast replacement production rates, and are not liking what they see.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 15 2024 17:15 utc | 83

“So I’ve been told that the “incursion” into Kursk People’s Republic was over, yet it’s still going strong. What happened?”
b lied like usual is what happened.
Posted by: Micron | Sep 15 2024 16:37 utc | 70
I viewed Kursk differently. Yes Russia was caught off guard with the huge gathering at their border. So now let’s imagine we’re at the conference table where they are going to consider all their options and CHOOSE one of those options over all the rest. Taking troops from the Donbass is what NATO wants. That, combined with the steady success there, puts that option off the table. Option 2 mobilize troops from elsewhere which means an invasion of a certain depth (a depth dependent on the time to get the resources there). Is the projected depth considered manageable? Yes. And a PLUS of that option, besides the additional troops available in house, is we get to create a trap that takes out the best of what they have left. They have more troops at the border, so we need to keep the news suppressed to draw them in. That happened. However, Ukraine figured out there was a trap and moved the troops back to the Donbass line because they were getting their A’s kicked there. When Russia saw that no more were going to be drawn into the trap, broadcasting the slaughter was allowed. We saw that happen. So, yes the INCURSION is over. What is ongoing is them trying to get out in one piece. Although if I was in their shoes, and didn’t have Nazie tattoos and hadn’t foolishly published me committing crimes against humanity on line, I would surrender and request NOT to be traded back.

Posted by: GEORGE M CHAMBERLAIN | Sep 15 2024 17:17 utc | 85

In the Kursk direction, Russian troops were able to consolidate in Lyubimovka and push back the Ukrainian counterattack with the aim of reaching the rear of the Russian advancing units.
The Russian Armed Forces were able to push back the Ukrainian Armed Forces from Veseloye, while Russian air forces were actively involved. As a result, a Russian counterattack is currently underway both in the Veseloye and Medvezhye areas. Ukrainian troops are now trying to gain a foothold on Obukhovka (slightly south of Veseloye) and Novy Put.
At the same time, in Lyubimovka, Russian troops were able to consolidate in the western part of the village. In response, Ukrainian units are actively counterattacking, trying to dislodge them.

https://t.me/the_military_analytics/20839

🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦The Russian army broke into the fortified area of ​​the Ukrainian Armed Forces – mine No. 3, threatening to cut off the last supply route of the Ugledar group of the Ukrainian Armed Forces
▪️”Russian troops have already entered the fortified area of ​​the Ukrainian Armed Forces at mine No. 3 and are trying to gain a foothold there. The only supply route for Ukrainian troops in Ugledar is 4 km away,” Ukrainian resources write.
▪️”The Russians are slowly running around the Yuzhnodonbasskaya 3 mine, in the Ugledar direction, trying to gain a foothold in its eastern part,” comments the Ukrainian Armed Forces officer “Alex”.
▪️In the area of ​​the mines “Yuzhnodonbasskaya No. 1” and “Yuzhnodonbasskaya No. 3” fierce battles continue, Kyiv military analysts also reported during the day.

https://t.me/geromanat/34836

Posted by: Down South | Sep 15 2024 17:24 utc | 87

Comment 97, I did not say that.

Posted by: AI | Sep 15 2024 17:29 utc | 89

Transistria not being attacked!
Why?

Posted by: jpc | Sep 15 2024 17:32 utc | 91

Lol “Biden.” More like “Bidet,” am I right?
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 15 2024 17:23 utc | 106
Yes. The theme I’m trying to develop here is Harris has stake the territory of a negotiated settlement for Ukraine as hers, so she is captured by the military side of the debate in Washington. The war vampires in favor of escalation reside at foggy bottom (Dept of State). When there is agreement between agencies, there is silence, disagreement means leaks and position stated through proxies, here Bolton. Sept 3 Nuland, a coven leader, admitted that Biden administration through Boris Johnson torpedoed a peace deal all on orders from someone higher up in the coven.
So Harris has hit Biden, signaling her differentiation. She has room to hang Biden for Ukraine folly. Realpolitic from CIA/Military is in ascendancy. Thus Austin has been silent and Polish protesters shout at Blinken.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 15 2024 17:45 utc | 93

The Ukraine people’s uprising is what I want.
Because at present the only hope of ending the war quickly is the Ukrainians themselves to topple the government before they get more suicidal orders from their UKUS puppet Maidan regime.
Once Color Revolution style regime change plot work, a country’s decision-making system is hacked by the West imperialists camp and local people are alienated.
Maidan regime was created to represent imperialism intersts, not the locals.
Neither the CIA-MI6 nor Biden-Starmer would shed a single honest tear if Ukrainians went towards the Russian army and all died.
If they have anything to regret, it is that NATO’s eastward expansion will be halted and that there will be no opportunity for Western capital to devour the resources of the Slavic bloc.
The only sad thing for Zelensky is that they will no longer have the opportunity to catch the astonishing aid budget from the West.
So in puppet regime’s decision-making layer, no one care about Ukraine peasants lives.
As long as Ukrainians behave obediently, those ruling class will not voluntarily try to ceasefire.
Only mood of a popular uprising will force USUK and Z himself to seriously try for a ceasefire.
Hope disobedience sign increase.

Posted by: Nokaz | Sep 15 2024 18:18 utc | 95

DS 107:
The first Telegram info has some of the common faults I see in some of such snippets.
1. It’s not news. This has been the status for over 24 hours. And admitted by everyone, to include DS. So, it’s not even some later confirmation of “first, first” guesses by Calibrated. But often, when such snippets are shared, the reaction by those not really following the battle lines, is as if it were news.
2. There’s some spin embedded in it. RFA being stuck (for now, they make break through soon) at L, is not good. Since the RFA definitely is trying to break through L, and move to the next town and important crossing. So saying that RFA resisted a counterattack is actually bad news. It means they are held up. Not the converse, if it were a position they were defending.
3. The V news is also sort of old news (certainly is what DS has had over 24 hours ago). That said, the spin is much more reasonable here…since this is territory where RFA is defending (not trying to advance).

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 15 2024 18:27 utc | 97

DS 109:
Also, not really new news. But good analysis, thoughtful and intelligent. Appreciated. Very similar to what has been pointed out by DPA, Willy on their YT videos.
The one point I’d make in reaction is that although the two areas (Ukrainsk under threat by RFA) and Novo (under threat by UFA) are similar in terms of being supplied from same sources, they are really pretty different in terms of mutual combat support. This is because Selidove (UFA) and fields (RFA) are between Novo and Ukrainsk. So success in one or the other is pretty independent. The analysis doesn’t really point that out and by just summarizing the two as part of the same theme, it gives a slightly wrong impression.

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 15 2024 18:32 utc | 99