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September 12, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-217

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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From the previous thread.
Bounties. The world must develop, if it hasn’t already, stealth teams of bounty/scalp hunters to seek out and extract personal payment from Elitists/Warmongers who think they can safely hide in bunkers, then come out and survey their new world. The value of those scalps should be priceless.
The boundaries of Fighting. Is it a single, final fight? Size, speed, skill and experience? Sucker punching an apparent drunk, not a good strategy.
But in my personal experience never fight someone who has a lot less to lose than you do. Fights are hard to contain, and that moment still begets tomorrow. And never, ever fight someone who has nothing left to lose. Ask Bibi who came up with their too clever strategy.
Let’s hope the West can embrace the Afghanistan path/withdrawal as their template for “we taught Russia to never mess with us.” Ukrainians hanging onto the wheels of the last Cargo flight out of Kiev makes better copy than U.S. Marine Helicopters ferrying the last Americans off the roof of the U.S. Kiev Embassy.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 12 2024 15:50 utc | 1

a Norwegian mercenary travelled to Ukraine August 29 and is already history
https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/nordmann-mistet-livet-i-ukraina-1.16676569
the family reports that Meland went to Ukraine 29. august, but that they know little about what has happened since then.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 15:55 utc | 2

Russian FM Sergei Lavrov advises NATO nazis are recruiting Al Nusra headchoppers from Idlib to fight in Ukraine.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 12 2024 16:04 utc | 3

Forget about Turkey joining BRICS any time soon.
Surely a NATO Member (ie Turkey) can never join BRICS – that would be a huge mistake.
Letting a fox into the henhouse is never a good idea.
Surely it must be a condition of joining BRICS that a country can’t be a member of NATO (ie, acting for the Americans) at the same time.
A country must withdraw from NATO if it wants to be considered for membership of BRICS.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12 2024 16:06 utc | 4

Continued:

Honzo @406

IMO, the SMO and the whole policy of Russia and China are directed at breaking down the hierarchy of the Hegemon. This is happening, partly because of the SMO, whose slow speed amplifies all the weak points of the Hegemon and shows minions that obedience can be more costly than defection, but the underlying problem for the Hegemon is the structure of capitalism, which is and always has been self-destructive.

This is quite true. A structural problem of both national and finance capital is weak long term planning. Its imperialist phase is if anything worse, as capital ownership has been increasingly divorced from the application of capital to production. In fact, this shows how Russia and China are not imperialist powers on the same level or in the same sense as the United States, or what you might term “Western globalist capital” – even if both are capitalist great powers and, technically, both display imperialist tendencies, there is a strong inner capital at least in some manner beholden to the country and subject to state directives (obviously more so in China.)
While global capital is more-or-less content to leave propaganda to the state, which partly explains why Western propaganda and brainwashing is so evolved, so effective and in-part shows signs of great foresight, state controls such as in China are viewed as antagonistic by the imperialist bourgeoisie.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 16:08 utc | 5

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 15:55 utc | 2
a Norwegian mercenary travelled to Ukraine August 29 and is already history
https://www.nrk.no/tromsogfinnmark/nordmann-mistet-livet-i-ukraina-1.16676569
the family reports that Meland went to Ukraine 29. august, but that they know little about what has happened since then.

I wonder if they put that up prominently on NRK to discourage young men to do this? That’s a really short time in action…
The schmaltzy story around the guy is cringey.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 12 2024 16:15 utc | 6

the family reports that Meland went to Ukraine 29. august, but that they know little about what has happened since then.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 15:55 utc | 2
Nazi?

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 16:22 utc | 7

@Konami | Sep 12 2024 16:15 utc | 6
Well lets hope they did it to discourage others, but I don’t know…
I normally do not read NRK, but I found him in this post
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/127145
and then searched for his name and found the NRK article.
Yeah, really short career. I wonder if it was Poltava-related?

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 16:24 utc | 8

@Tichy | Sep 12 2024 16:22 utc | 7
I don’t know. But at least not very smart.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 16:29 utc | 9

“While global capital is more-or-less content to leave propaganda to the state, which partly explains why Western propaganda and brainwashing is so evolved, so effective and in-part shows signs of great foresight, state controls such as in China are viewed as antagonistic by the imperialist bourgeoisie.”
Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 16:08 utc | 5
You two are turning an Intellectual Breakfast into an Intellectual Feast.
The State through meagre and deformed education breeds The Brainwashed.
Citizens that are so educated shouldn’t be allowed to vote.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 12 2024 16:32 utc | 10

From the previous thread.
Bounties. The world must develop, if it hasn’t already, stealth teams of bounty/scalp hunters to seek out and extract personal payment from Elitists/Warmongers who think they can safely hide in bunkers, then come out and survey their new world. The value of those scalps should be priceless.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 12 2024 15:50 utc | 1
This is beyond naive, watch or read Rigoletto if you want to know how this would actually turn out.

Posted by: anonymous | Sep 12 2024 16:38 utc | 11

a Norwegian mercenary travelled to Ukraine August 29 and is already history
that was a rather short career.
I wonder what the family feels.
Sending some more weapons and money to the Nazis?
Some people are just too stupid.

Posted by: g wiltek | Sep 12 2024 16:39 utc | 12

Citizens that are so educated shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
Posted by: canuck | Sep 12 2024 16:32 utc | 10
One eternal dilemma of modern capitalist society: produce citizens that are so stupid they can’t question anything, yet not so stupid they can’t work.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 16:46 utc | 13

Very suspicious development. Stoltenberg to become the new chairman of the MSC.

Posted by: AI | Sep 12 2024 16:46 utc | 14

4 – I doubt whether NATO really trusts Turkey, under its present leadership, but BRICS would also be unwise to. I have been reading about the October War of 1973. King Hussein of Jordan had contacts with other Arab states and is supposed to have told the Israelis that Egypt and Syria were about to attack (supposedly at a meeting in Alexandria their leaders told Hussein in general terms of their aims, but did not give a precise date, because with good reason they did not trust Hussein). Jordan sent a token force to fight Israel in the war because Hussein wanted to maintain some standing in the Arab world, but his ties to the West – and Israel – were stronger. I think Turkey is in the same ambiguous position.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 16:49 utc | 15

8 – It might depend who was killed, and what his military experience was, if any. My impression is that senior military instructors got it in Poltava, but perhaps the death toll included the less senior and experienced. Who got killed among Westerners, and how in the SMO may prove to be an interesting story that comes out in the future. News embargoes and secrecy are currently dominant, however.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 16:53 utc | 16

Russian FM Sergei Lavrov advises NATO nazis are recruiting Al Nusra headchoppers from Idlib to fight in Ukraine.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 12 2024 16:04 utc | 3
Has anyone funding Ukraines butchers though about the consequences?
Like the head choppers heading to the freshly manicured garden that’s Borrells Europe.
Because they will @

Posted by: jpc | Sep 12 2024 16:57 utc | 17

2 – That’s a nice watch he was wearing in the photo.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 16:57 utc | 18

https://t.me/philologist_zov/1370

I will give two polar examples from the Pokrovsky direction, the situation on which I spoke above .
Here is an excerpt from a post by Alexey Chadayev, who observed normally organized work in a well-equipped brigade with sane command:
”When I was recently near Donetsk in the Pokrovsky direction, I saw something very close to how a modern war should be conducted. Digital communications, control, drones, additive manufacturing in the workshops at the unit, an equipped training ground with training for flights under electronic warfare, well-established interaction with neighbors, the technical ability to control the brigade as a single whole by battalion, direct communication between the reconnaissance and fire contours, distributed logistics. All this is not least the result of more than two years of work by volunteers, “pumping up” the units with technologies and competencies.”
And now a message from one of those who were unlucky enough to end up in other military units:
”I am telling you about the Pokrovsk direction as a direct participant [I am not specifying the area of ​​work] . The situation from what an ordinary private can see is as follows. The guys are given points on the map and sent to storm, the sky is simply totally dominated by enemy drones. Despite this, we are advancing. There is no artillery support for the offensive (sometimes there is a mortar firing completely uncoordinated with the assault – just for show, that there is), there is no armor, there is no our aviation (we saw Ukrainian aviation three times), there are no missiles. The lack of armor and artillery is explained by the total enemy drones, which will simply burn it all down, communications are stretched for 40 km, along which we suffer losses from drones everywhere. People go on the assault on foot loaded for three days, because the BHPs were burned. The whole point of the strategy: hide from drones under trees in forested areas and, accordingly, attack along them. Closer to the front line, the Mavics direct enemy mortars, and in forested areas, where people simply have nowhere to go, things get crazy. Often, the enemy sends people to some point without resistance, and then simply does not let them out and unwinds them. Supplies are in the ass: water, food, ammunition – all the same on foot along the same forested areas under a swarm of drones. Forested areas in many places are burned or cut down by mortars, but, naturally, there is no other way. Plus, it is not possible to get to all places purely along forested areas, you have to run across postcards, the enemy knows these places, and collects the harvest there every day. For the sake of objectivity, I admit that I do not know everything, I do not have the opportunity to see everything, but this is what is visible from the very bottom.”
Based on these examples, I will emphasize the following points.
First. With insufficient quantities of artillery and aviation weapons deployed to support the operation, offensive actions are conducted on a broad front without concentrating the efforts of assault units with effective fire support in specific areas, to the point of actual lack of fire support for our offensive actions.
Second. There is still no systemic and comprehensive solution (both purely technical and organizational) to the problem of the lower sky, in which the enemy continues to prevail, knocking out our personnel, combat equipment and auxiliary transport both directly in the combat contact zone and deep into our immediate rear on logistical communications.
Third. There is positive experience in terms of good technical equipment, effective tactics for using technical means and general organization of combat work of units and subdivisions in our active army, but this experience has not yet been scaled up to the level of wide coverage.
These comments are essentially applicable to the general state of affairs in our active army. With regard to the Pokrovsk direction, I am forced to repeat: we are greatly at risk of critical exhaustion of the advancing group with all the potential risks. And this is first and foremost not about hypothetical flank counterattacks by the enemy.

https://t.me/chadayevru/3256

^^^^ I also discussed this in detail with the brigade commander and the Hussar officers. The main thesis there is this: not exactly a “systemic”, but a working sin — a long-range aircraft “eyes” over the offensive zone, Maviks with a booster (from Grubnik, hehe), retrics in the air to ensure the necessary radio control distance and a group of FPV-ers, the task of all together is to hunt for enemy operators who terrorize the advancing infantry with drones and especially the last mile logistics. It works like this: a long-range aircraft detects any movement, Maviks conduct additional reconnaissance, FPVs fly to points where the enemy’s presence has been revealed. If mortars finish off, they are connected as well. Artillery is also possible, but it is more difficult: the brigade has almost none of its own, which means it has to ask, and this takes time, plus it works over areas, not so much to destroy as to “suppress”. This is where the phrase comes from about how a week of offensive combat costs a brigade 4 million in sponsorship money, as a result of which the level of losses is reduced to “acceptable”. What is the money for? Mainly for all this flying equipment, which is essentially an expensive consumable and which is not supplied according to the supply schedule. But without it, the level of losses immediately tends to be unacceptable, because the situation begins to come to what Philologist described in the second excerpt. In terms of passive protection, wearable electronic warfare is also important for assault units, and not by itself, but in combination with radio weather measurement equipment, in order to understand what frequencies enemy drones are flying at and suppress them specifically. This is where my thesis above in one of the posts comes from, that either spend money on hardware, or still spend money… on paying out death benefits.

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 12 2024 17:06 utc | 19

@Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 16:57 utc | 18
The image in the NRK article has been retouched (as the article says). There is a version of it on Reddit showing a tattoo on his right hand and a b&w symbol of some sort on the small ‘bag’ on his chest. I am not familiar with such symbolism, but the NRK editors decided to remove them.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 17:09 utc | 20

FWIW
UK will allow Ukraine to strike Russia with Storm Shadow missiles https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2024/09/11/7474618/
Ukraine’s Kursk Incursion Is a Two-Edged Sword
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/ukraines-kursk-incursion-is-a-two-edged-sword/

Posted by: Dogon Priest | Sep 12 2024 17:14 utc | 21

20 – I examined the Reddit image. I can’t make anything of the tattoo, but it looks to me like runes in the circle on his chest pouch. Which can be Nazi. A little bizarrely, his watch is different in Reddit – the dial is hard to read but it looks more like a “tactical” military watch.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:18 utc | 22

@2
Your countryman learned the hard way that Orc hunting is best left to the Elves.

Posted by: Fred777 | Sep 12 2024 17:28 utc | 24

23 – What is it? Runes, Norse pagan symbolism?

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:28 utc | 25

Some of today’s news:

Official Israeli Radio: Two American aircraft carriers in the Middle East received orders to leave the region.

Vladimir Putin just announced that the countries that approve the use of their long-range missiles to strike the Russian territory will be considered a party to the conflict!

The US may allow Ukraine to use British and French long-range missiles for strikes deep into Russia but not American ones – The Times

To me that would indicate that the US is expecting a reciprocal attacks on it’s military soon because of something that will happen in the near future. Let’s hope a Russian reciprocal (nuclear) attack would be limited to bases in Ukraine or Western military assets in the middles via proxy deliveries to the Houthi’s.

Posted by: xor | Sep 12 2024 17:31 utc | 26

23 – What is it? Runes, Norse pagan symbolism?
Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:28 utc | 25
https://www.reddit.com/r/oldnorse/comments/zjty0u/hello_i_want_to_get_my_first_tattoo_and_i_would/
In the context of a volunteer for Nazi Ukraine: Nazi.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 17:37 utc | 27

27 – So, one Nazi less…

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:43 utc | 28

@Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:18 utc | 22
I found the logo, it is the same as a Chinese made “Outdoor Viking Lunavin Odin Logo”, i.e. just some silly symbols. Comparison: https://postimg.cc/dZ9tfJfx
Made-In-China logo

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 17:43 utc | 29

I found the logo, it is the same as a Chinese made “Outdoor Viking Lunavin Odin Logo”, i.e. just some silly symbols. Comparison: https://postimg.cc/dZ9tfJfx
Made-In-China logo
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 17:43 utc | 29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegv%C3%ADsir

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 17:45 utc | 30

So, was he a Nazi or just an idiot? It may not matter, as the two categories overlap… Still, the Norwegian paper thought the symbols odd…

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:48 utc | 31

Thing is I have seen people with this tattoo before, I couldn’t quite remember what it was, but they were all Nazi skinheads. There are obviously some “non-Nazi-skinheads” who have it (such as Bjork https://www.tattoofilter.com/p/1145) but again in the context of a volunteer for the Nazi horde it’s pretty obvious where he’s coming from.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 17:49 utc | 32

Still, the Norwegian paper thought the symbols odd…
Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:48 utc | 31
Yes, this is the dead giveaway.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 17:49 utc | 33

As to made in China, well, the manufacturing decline of the West continues apace…

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:49 utc | 34

@Tichy | Sep 12 2024 17:45 utc | 30
Agreed. Vegvisir means ‘path finder’
@Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 17:48 utc | 31
Old Norse/Icelandic symbolism. Not Nazi symbolism per se.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 17:55 utc | 35

As a side note I am not completely opposed to Old Norse religion (or the Greek Pantheon) since I view them as far less insidious than the slave religion of Christianity. It doesn’t change the fact that if you’re marked like that and going to war to kill Russians in service of Ukraine, you’re 99.999% a Nazi.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 17:55 utc | 36

Hope later news (downsouth I’m counting on you) will ring more zits being popped all over the frontline.
Tendrils created cysts, cysts are now being popped, pus and blood coming out…
Things should get interesting as the skin clears and new advances follow.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 12 2024 17:59 utc | 37

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12 2024 16:06 utc | 4
############
BRICS is not NATO. Russia and China have no designs on hegemony.
You literally cannot understand how different people with different histories, cultures, ideologies, and religions work.
This is not dissimilar from your inability to grasp that Russia never went into Ukraine to “conquer” the country, conquering Ukraine by Russia will be the fault of NATO’s actions, its relentless drive to expand and create win-lose scenarios for American supremacy.
Turkey can join BRICS because BRICS is a consensus-driven organization, it’s not a control body like NATO where everyone is subservient to Washington and London’s objectives. In BRICS all members have a say. No one has “veto” power.
And BRICS is primarily a trading block, which benefits everyone outside of the West to join, even Japan, eventually.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 12 2024 17:59 utc | 38

One eternal dilemma of modern capitalist society: produce citizens that are so stupid they can’t question anything, yet not so stupid they can’t work.
Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 16:46 utc | 13
The short answer to why capital is drawn to this is a question: “Why dies a dog lick his balls?”
The longer answer has to start with what do you mean when you say “Capitalist”? The US left any semblance of government that may be characterized as Capitalist in the 1930’s, while the then elites were trying to copy National Socialism and Communism. At that time, the power to regulate commerce was ceded to the federal government. See e.g. Wickard v Filburn (Individuals cannot grow wheat for their own consumption because the will have an “effect” on commerce and frustrate the efforts of the federal government to balance supply and demand) as an example.
Through this crack, it becomes profitable for capital to capture government policy. So really, if you argue the US employs a form of “modern capitalism”, I disagree. The US now is much closer to National Socialism than Capitalism.
To me the words of description we use are far less important than accurate description of the quantum of government power that capital may command. I dunno, maybe the US is “Captured Socialist”?

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 12 2024 18:00 utc | 39

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 12 2024 17:59 utc | 37
#########
Can you give the diseased flesh analogy a rest?
It was disgusting the first time, and now you continue to repeatedly post it autistically as though it is some joke you find hilarious and no one else enjoys.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 12 2024 18:01 utc | 40

A country must withdraw from NATO if it wants to be considered for membership of BRICS.
Posted by: Julian | Sep 12 2024 16:06 utc | 4
Then what about Saudi Arabia or the UAE who aren’t NATO but have deep security ties to the USA? … or Egypt for more or less the same reasons?
BRICs is best off having a pure trading relationship with member countries and leave security out of it otherwise they are forcing countries into making security choices tied to economic choices which is no better than what the USA is offering. The whole point of BRIC was to have free trade without strings attached and if you start telling members who they can associate with then it’s no longer free trade.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Sep 12 2024 18:02 utc | 41

35 – German Wegweiser. I know German and sometimes find written Norwegian, Danish and Swedish comprehensible for that reason, over and above the relationship to English.
36 – Yeah, the preponderance of evidence is he was a Nazi.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 12 2024 18:02 utc | 42

So this is a thread for the war in Ukraine. Is it a good place to discuss the liberation of Kursk People’s Republic (KPR) too?

Posted by: AI_Revenger | Sep 12 2024 18:06 utc | 43

Turkey can join BRICS .
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 12 2024 17:59 utc | 38
Turkey can only have a “relation” with Brics: “BRICS has no rules that would ban members of certain organizations from having relations with this association, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said, commenting on the prospects for Turkiye’s rapprochement with BRICS given its NATO membership and EU candidate status”
Also, Brics has stopped accepting new members for the moment, it’s their official statement by the same Lavrov

Posted by: rk | Sep 12 2024 18:13 utc | 44

“As a side note I am not completely opposed to Old Norse religion (or the Greek Pantheon) since I view them as far less insidious than the slave religion of Christianity…”
Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 17:55 utc | 36
I, reluctantly, have to agree with you.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 12 2024 18:24 utc | 45

President’s Response to the Prospect of Using NATO Long-Range Weapons to Strike Russia
“This will mean that NATO countries, the United States, European countries are at war with Russia. And if this is so, then, taking into account the change in the very essence of this conflict, we will make appropriate decisions based on the threats that this entails. will be created for us,” – said V. Putin
Machine translation https://t.me/WarRealTime/41652

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 12 2024 18:25 utc | 46

So the Mad Dogs at the Pentagon – have commissioned a company to compile a report on what would happen – to global agriculture, if nuclear strikes occurred in Russia.
Meanwhile Ukrainian forces in Kursk – held/are holding 100 Russian citizens in a school in a concentration camp style – these civilians have been paraded to western reporters – in some sort of creepy fashion.
Russian authorities have issued at least seven warrants – for the arrest of foreign journalists – who entered Russia illegally – to report on the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi’s advancements in Kursk.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 12 2024 18:25 utc | 47

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Posted by: Alika | Sep 12 2024 18:26 utc | 48

frithguild @39
Dimitrov, definition of fascism: “”the open, terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, and most imperialist elements of finance capital.”
Any state supporting and furthering the rule of capital is capitalist. Nazi Germany was capitalist, and the US legislation you cited was a natural consequence of capitalism. Laissez-faire opposes any government intervention in business affairs, but it says nothing of business intervention in government affairs.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 18:40 utc | 49

All out war with Nato – looks on the cards – as Russia prepares to defend itself from long range missiles.
“President Vladimir Putin say the West letting Kiev use longer-range weapons to strike Russian targets would mean NATO would be “at war” with Russia.
Putin spoke as US and UK top diplomats discussed easing rules on firing Western weapons into Russia, which Kiev has been pressing for, more than two and a half years into the war.
“This would in a significant way change the very nature of the conflict,” Putin told a state television reporter.
“It would mean that NATO countries, the US, European countries, are at war with Russia,” he added.
“If that’s the case, then taking into account the change of nature of the conflict, we will take the appropriate decisions based on the threats that we will face.”
Putin said clearing Kiev to strike deep into Russia “is a decision on whether NATO countries are directly involved in the military conflict or not”.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 12 2024 18:43 utc | 50

@48
Ukrainian widows?

Posted by: Fred777 | Sep 12 2024 18:50 utc | 52

Excerpt from the article above:
“The blackguardly German fascists beat husbands to a bloody pulp in the presence of their wives, and send the ashes of murdered sons by parcel post to their mothers. Sterilization has been made a method of political warfare.”
Does that remind you of someone today?

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 18:50 utc | 53

“Citizens that are so educated shouldn’t be allowed to vote.”
Posted by: canuck | Sep 12 2024 16:32 utc | 10
“One eternal dilemma of modern capitalist society: produce citizens that are so stupid they can’t question anything, yet not so stupid they can’t work.”
Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 16:46 utc | 13
Modern, Smodern.
The human race goes through political/economic cycles as outline by Plato. Everything ‘modern’, has been here before.
Every new iteration starts off well then degenerates; then on to the next iteration in the cycle; capitalism died in the nineties under the Clinton administration

Posted by: canuck | Sep 12 2024 18:58 utc | 54

Dimitrov, definition of fascism: “”the open, terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary, most chauvinistic, and most imperialist elements of finance capital.” ***
Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 18:40 utc | 49
That’s alot of “most”s for a definition. So somewhat exclusionary. I’ll look at Dimitrov – it has been a long time. I will aslo have to square your definition of capitalism with Smith and Burke. My conception is capitalism is characterized by the absence of government intervention (if that is even possible). I will need to refresh my studies.
As you define it, I am with you on your point about the perversions capital can create. But these perversions drive through openings made by the application of government power.
To bring it full circle, how much influence does US capital exert in animating policy regarding Ukraine. I would say total because US capital has captured US policy. To me this is not capitalism.

Posted by: frithguild | Sep 12 2024 19:07 utc | 55

if nuclear strikes occurred in Russia
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 12 2024 18:25 utc | 47
Not only in Russia, that would not surprise anyone.
“The contractor is required to “expand the geographical scope of the simulation to include the former Eastern Bloc countries and also for regions outside Eastern Europe and western Russia.” Wouldn’t want to live in Poland now that Vicky is researching what happens if she nukes around Russia
@Lev Davidovich | Sep 12 2024 18:25 utc | 46
Banned weapons in Donbass (Macaron was first to use banned mines, then US started chemical), Crocus, Crimea beach and npps, even Kursk, are more serious events than some long range S-S, but none of them threatened lord S and sir G personally before, or abramoviches’s money factories. Even Putin had drones exploding in Kremlin, no one cared, elected people are not important. Now Putin can say anything he wants about long range, Zakharova can cry at UN all day long, but red lines are meaningless only thanks to their own failed smo, diy Gaza life

Posted by: rk | Sep 12 2024 19:12 utc | 56

The current Ukraine situation is moving into much higher levels of risk: The UK has approved the Ukrainian use of long range, precision missiles that can penetrate deeply into Russia and Blinken, Sullivan et al have also essentially approved (They appear to be running the country since Biden is in fulminant dementia.) Given that Zelensky has no boundaries, that the Kursk invasion was reckless beyond consideration, this suggests similar levels of disinhibition with even greater destructive power The US is also represented as a country without boundaries regarding risk taking, as evidenced by the extraordinary tonnage of the most recently used bombs decimating Palestinian women, babies, children and others in an Israeli defined “safe space.” Huge bombs that vaporized these people, or burned them to death in their tents. Delivered by F 35s, also provided by US.
Unfortunately, Putin has recently spoken about the red line being drawn by Russia: He notes that that Zelensky/Ukraine does not have requisite satellites or personnel to manage these missile systems. Thus, personnel targeting and manning are US/UK/NATO – essentially at the juncture at which these are used, Russia defines itself as at war with NATO, with all the implications of those statements.
The nuclear clock is at a miilleminute to midnight.

Posted by: abierno | Sep 12 2024 19:18 utc | 57

@ Posted by: frithguild | Sep 12 2024 19:07 utc | 55
Book assignment: https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/

Posted by: fnord | Sep 12 2024 19:19 utc | 58

Rk @ 56
Red lines are meaningless untill ther not and then its too late.
Brinkmanship is a fools policy.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 12 2024 19:21 utc | 59

Republicofscotland @ 50

All out war with Nato – looks on the cards – as Russia prepares to defend itself from long range missiles.

Until now Russia, Iran, China have pulled back from red lines in concert, so there is more going on than simply Russia miscalculating, buying time, showing weakness and encouraging the west. Russia, China, and Iran know all the risks and gains and must have a shared policy, part of their strategic alliance.
The question now is if Russia steps forward will Iran and China also step forward, continue to act in concert? If Russia strikes a NATO country will Iran strike Israel, will China change its positions on supplying weapons, will China base some permanent troops in Belarus, will it more become more aggressive in its home waters? These countries reduced pressure together when necessary, will they increase pressure together if necessary?
IMO it would be a mistake for the three of them to not keep moving in concert. I imagine some big decisions are being made right now, or have already been decided and at the ready.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 12 2024 19:21 utc | 60

Turkey has been trying to get into the EU for years and has had the door slammed in its face for years. Meanwhile the EU says Ukraine will get in, a country that is barely a country with a wrecked economy on life support. So, yeah, it makes perfect sense that Turkey will try to get into BRICS as it knows it will never get into the EU. And yes Turkey is a NATO country, because it has to be. Someone on this site once explained that the only reason Turkey is in NATO to protect itself from NATO. It’s a country in a position where it has to play both sides, what it has done and will continue to do.

Posted by: Mike R | Sep 12 2024 19:29 utc | 61

Nato tried brinkmanship before the SMO Russia gave a resounding answer.
Will they never learn.
Vladimire Putin has the moral high ground yet again.
Even more importantly he has no choice.
That last is the most important reason england should not do this.
Logic missing from english polititians.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 12 2024 19:31 utc | 62

Mark2 @ 59
Agreed, I’ve come to realize redlines are for the peanut gallery. Same applies to nuclear policies, it’s fine for the USA and Russia to revise them, state them publicly, publish them to make it appear legal, but the truth is once the first one flies, all the declarations and paper and legal documents go out the window and it’ll be pure seat of your pants improvisation.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 12 2024 19:31 utc | 63

A thought about what may be the “precipice event”.
Kaliningrad is a Russian exclave located on the Baltic Sea, between Lithuania and Poland. The Kaliningrad city and Oblast is an isolated territory, roughly 412 miles west of the Russian border. It’s the only ice-free Russian port on the Baltic Sea. Population is 500,000. It’s also the home port of Russia’s North Sea Navy.
Kaliningrad Oblast was part of the USSR, but when the Soviet Republic collapsed in 1991, it became separated from Russia by now independent nations, notably Poland and Lithuania, which are part of NATO.
Kaliningrad belonged to Germany, and was German territory up until 1945. After WWII, the Soviet Union occupied Kaliningrad and expelled the German population. Kaliningrad should rightfully belong to Germany (or Poland, who controlled it before Germany), and so should be rightful property of the European Union and be NATO Territory.
Russia has taken over Crimea, which was Ukrainian territory until recently, as well as seized other Eastern Ukrainian territories.
I bet the “precipice event” will involve the European Union and NATO declaring legal ownership of “occupied Kaliningrad”, which should be rightfully called “Koenigsberg”. Note in the agreement (below) that Kaliningrad was declared the property of the SOVIET UNION. It was NEVER given to Russia, and was never officially declared to be Russian property. Many former Soviet properties became independent nations since 1990… so there is precedence for Kaliningrad to become either independent or to return to German ownership.
Under the Potsdam Agreement of 1 August 1945, the city became part of the Soviet Union pending the final determination of territorial borders. This final determination eventually took place on 12 September 1990 when the Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany was signed.
“VI. CITY OF KOENIGSBERG AND THE ADJACENT AREA The Conference examined a proposal by the Soviet Government that pending the final determination of territorial questions at the peace settlement, the section of the western frontier of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics which is adjacent to the Baltic Sea should pass from a point on the eastern shore of the Bay of Danzig to the east, north of Braunsberg – Goldep, to the meeting point of the frontiers of Lithuania, the Polish Republic and East Prussia.
The Conference has agreed in principle to the proposal of the Soviet Government concerning the ultimate transfer to the Soviet Union of the city of Koenigsberg and the area adjacent to it as described above, subject to expert examination of the actual frontier.”
The President of the United States and the British Prime Minister supported the proposal of the Conference at the forthcoming peace settlement.
Now, onto the “Precipice Event”. I bet the EU and NATO will declare legal ownership of Kaliningrad, just as Russia is claiming legal ownership of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine. We will see sudden NATO and EU moves to blockade Kaliningrad, both Naval blockade and land based through Lithuania and Poland. No goods in or out, no flights in or out. We may also see NATO troops trying to move in to secure the territory.
The whole thing would be to set up a bargain with Russia to end the Ukrainian War; Kaliningrad is Russian territory only if Crimea and the Eastern Oblasts of Ukraine are returned to Ukraine.
Of course, this would bring the entire situation to the brink of WWIII and possible nuclear exchange…. the precipice.
One thing to watch is that Lithuania has recently developed plans since July for evacuation or relocation of up to 1/4th of it’s 2.5 Million population, mainly women, children, elderly and disabled… in case of war. Why only Lithuania? There is no other NATO country making such plans.
The precipice standoff and subsequent threats exchanged, military mobilization, national security implementation (including possible Martial Law or National Curfews, military on the streets) might be used as the excuse to delay or cancel the U.S. Presidential election in November.
That would be an aggressive move by NATO and the EU, but it would be the only way to save face vs. suffering a complete beating by Russian forces in Ukraine. :>)

Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Sep 12 2024 19:35 utc | 64

L Y F H @ 63
Exactly.
I’m fully prepped.
I wish it was’ent so but it is. And i beleave in facing reality both good and bad.
Respect

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 12 2024 19:37 utc | 65

Widely reposted advice for Russian UAV crews to help them avoid falling victim to Ukrainian chemical weapon attacks, earlier attacks documented by TASS. Fortunately none of this matters so you can all get back to your Nazi runes and tracking cookies.
https://t.me/xronikabpla/7719

Dear crew chiefs, greetings! Considering the experience of defeats inflicted by chemical missiles on our crew, the khokhol acts as follows: on the first launch, he catches the crew, follows it to the PVD, then from the PVD to the field, watches the aircraft being received on landing, after recharging, when the crew is preparing for the next launch, he hits with a chemical missile. We need to reduce the time of aircraft launch to a minimum: drive to the positions with pumped-up catapults, the time between the aircraft being received and the next launch is not less than 1 hour, exclude the aircraft launch from one point (make the shift within your field, but each time, if it is not possible to have several fields), throw the aircraft into the field on landing, wait at least 30 minutes, then move at low speed in the car to the aircraft, the technicians dismount, break the wings and throw them into the car, while it remains at low speed and drive off from the field, after which they loop around the neighborhoods. Take care of yourselves, men, as much as possible.
On launch:
1. Do interflight preparation of the aircraft no earlier than 15-20 minutes after takeoff. ….
2. Prepare the aircraft at short stops for no more than 5 minutes. …
3. Everyone participates in preparing the aircraft at once: …
4. Pump the catapult in advance. …
5. Reduce pre-flight checks to a minimum: …
6. Deploy and prepare the NSU in advance, on the move. ….
7. After launch, even if the board has not yet been released, the vehicle moves off the slab and begins to move. …
8. IMPORTANT: minimize the demonstration of the board for observation from the air! …
9. Daily checks (dancing with the board on four counts, calibration) should not be carried out at the takeoff point, …

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 12 2024 19:37 utc | 66

Russian drone attacks on warehouses, airfields, storages, substations and AFU deployment points.
https://southfront.press/russian-drone-strikes-struck-military-facilities-airfields-across-ukraine/

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 12 2024 19:45 utc | 67

As I read about the long range missile situation I keep thinking that the UK/US are trying to set up plausible denial ability of Ukraine use.
The question I have is if any of them can be launched w/o UK/US aiming and all rest but pushing the button? I doubt if they can so it will be a matter of what UK/US facility is taken out and then what?
The price of gold today is setting new highs so what tune is the bird singing in the coal mine?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 12 2024 19:48 utc | 68

Mike R @ 61

Someone on this site once explained that the only reason Turkey is in NATO to protect itself from NATO

Whoever said that, there it is in a brilliant nutshell, and why I hang out at this bar.
Hmm, wonder if leaving NATO means closing its US bases there? Probably not, Turkiye could leave NATO but still accommodate the USA and the likely outcome. But as LoveDonbas pointed out, there is no reason for Turkiye to leave anyone regarding the BRICs. Erdogan’s anger is to distract and placate the Turkish street, show that he shares their pain.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 12 2024 19:50 utc | 69

57 – Could not agree more.
Its desperation time in the NATO EU capitals and in DC as the neo cons seek a way to compel RF to come to the table and give up. LOL
VV Putin now holds all the cards, the UAF is being rapidly destroyed in detail in the Kursk salient as the highway from Sumy becomes the “Highway to Hell” with over 1k MBT’s, IFV’s, APC’s, Humvees, MRAP’s, Marder’s, 6×6’s, HIMARS, EW stations, and various tank retrievers turned into a scrappers dream. Over 12,000 KIA’s more than were lost in two day of the D-Day invasion……a complete and utter disaster for NATO and their UAF surrogates. UAF reserves are now history and only half trained cripples and 15 year olds grabbed off the streets, and a few odd Nazi mercs remain to be used. One good push (on the way) and whole Nazi/Kieve rotten house of cards will collapse (by October 1st).
On the SMO frontal huge gains are being made daily as RF forces are on the very edge of the vast steppe, where they will be able to engage in maneuver warfare at last. At that point in next few days the road to Odessa and Kieve and Lvov will be wide open.
The threat of long range missile use against RF is a bluff, it will not happen because all such use against RF targets can be easily traced to the NATO command centers in the UK, making the UK bases a prime target for destruction by sub based RF Iskander missiles……will the UK actually commit military suicide? Not likely, again its a last ditch bluff to save the corrupt Ukronazi brown shirts in Kieve.
One very inviting RF target if Moscow or St Petersburg (VV’s home town) is actually struck (again not likely) would the two UK CV’s Prince of Wales and QE, these ships if they leave Portsmouth, have little protective screening…….just imagine a repeat of the 1941 RN Singapore disaster !!
Again NATO has no nuts for a confrontation with RF…..and by October 1st all will be lost in Kieve anyway…..on to the next NATO/EU imperial disaster …..Georgia? Serbia ? Hungary? Syria? Iran? Yemen?

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 12 2024 19:58 utc | 70

Putin Puts West On Notice: Long-Range Arms For Ukraine Will Mean ‘NATO At War With Russia’
But what can Russia do in case of these attacks?
Conventionally, it cannot hurt NATO, even less the UK or the USA.
Any conventional attack on Poland would result in more long range missile attacks on Russia.
So, only the nuclear option is left?
I think we have several weeks more to live.
We should spend as much time as possible with family and friends.

Posted by: vargas | Sep 12 2024 19:59 utc | 71

Posted by: Retaining_H2O | Sep 12 2024 19:35 utc | 64
Dissenting opinion:
The Russian Federation is recognized as the successor state of the Soviet Union. The transfer of debt, nuclear weapons, and the UN Sec Council seat were part of this settlement. Crimea and other territories that joined the Russian Federation as the result of plebiscite were never likely to wish to join Ukraine. A fact 1991 vote was ignored by Ukraine is evidence of this. If the EU wants to claim ownership of Kaliningrad using this logic they would have to poll the citizens of Kaliningrad. They would not succeed. At any rate there is no legal case to be made that it belongs to NATO or the EU. The wouldn’t even be able to pay lip service to such vaunted western values as “Duty to protect” or “self determination”. It would be seen by the world as what it is. An act of war against the RF with no basis in international law or custom.

Posted by: anonymous | Sep 12 2024 20:01 utc | 72

Some notes of mine.
The European Union is blocking transit of Russian oil to Hungary and Slovakia. A free trade association that fights its own members does not have a long and prosperous future.
In destroying Nord Stream 2, the USA, a NATO member, has attacked the infrastructure of another NATO member, Germany. A mutual defense treaty does not last long if one member attacks another.
Brussels has frozen the reserves in euro of the Russian national bank. If national banks do not have free and unfettered use of their euro funds, the euro currency will lose its status as reserve currency.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 12 2024 20:01 utc | 73

Putin is in the corner.
There are no options left.
Any move he makes would mean a destruction of Russia even if the west is also destroyed.
I think, Russia won’t dare to respond to the western attack.

Posted by: vargas | Sep 12 2024 20:03 utc | 74

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 17:55 utc | 36
What does it even mean “not to be opposed” to a pagan religion? You find it attractive? In what way? As a lifestyle? Since one cannot make a decision to believe something, I’m struggling to understand what you think religion is. It’s certainly not something you browse for on Amazon: “yeah, Christianity is a bit too slavish for me right now, I might go for more of blend of Apollo and Thor, yeah that seems cool…” ffs.

Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 12 2024 20:03 utc | 75

Turkiye could leave NATO but still accommodate the USA and the likely outcome.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 12 2024 19:50 utc | 69
You are not allowed to leave NATO if you don’t have Nukes.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Sep 12 2024 20:04 utc | 76

Posted by: vargas | Sep 12 2024 19:59 utc | 71
You know that, except nuclear, nato has not unlimited range missile/rockets.
Your deeper strikes in RF is nonsense, unless they use airplanes.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 12 2024 20:09 utc | 77

Today’s Golden Medal of Doom goes to vargas.
I am missing the days of “Moscow is our head!” (Fidel Castro). The wolflet is yet another PRINO: pro-Russian in name only.

Posted by: Konami | Sep 12 2024 20:10 utc | 78

Tobias Cole @ 70
Sound good, I hope you’re correct. You assume ClownWorld’s rational, but granted, even clowns wants to live, right?
As for the Queen Elizabeth and Prince of Wales, I’ve always thought they would make a good “message” target. I don’t think they can sail, it’s a matter of hitting them in port, at night when they are empty. Problem is in sinking them the Russians would be doing the Brits a favor. Might give the wrong message – we’re here to help.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 12 2024 20:11 utc | 79

Vargas @ 71
As we speak i’m in bed with your wife.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 12 2024 20:14 utc | 80

Oliver Krug @ 76

You are not allowed to leave NATO if you don’t have Nukes.

Is it like a Roach Motel? How would they force you to stay? NATO doesn’t have any nukes, not even France anymore, only the USA as the commanding head of NATO controls nukes in the alliance. Are you saying the USA would nuke Turkiye if it tried to leave? Not, that I’d put it past them.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 12 2024 20:18 utc | 81

The BBC news at ten on radio 4 in thirty mins will be worth listening. I can tell you now this will br front and center.
The 9 pm news lasts 3 mins it was the main topic complete with a Putin clip.
This is out there.
We had the burns /moore interview (sic)
Then the lammy bliken vist to zelensky.
Plus we have a short ‘window’ before the US election.
Starmer wooden block head that he is will be the next patsy to be thrown under the bus by america jus like zelensky. They just dont care. It a fix not a bug.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 12 2024 20:29 utc | 82

anonymous @ 72
This talk of who certain lands really belong to is so Germany 1930s that it’s just incredible to be witnessing and reliving – and seriously terrifying. This is much stronger proof of resurgent nazism in Europe than mercenaries and Azov freaks with totenkopf tattoos and black sun medallions.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 12 2024 20:32 utc | 83

Timbo 82
Steady on old chap !

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 12 2024 20:32 utc | 84

AFU seems to be in a death spiral in Kursk. They are still trying to attack Glushkovo from the south but without apparent success so far.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 12 2024 20:33 utc | 85

“I think, Russia won’t dare to respond to the western attack.”
Well, you are wrong!

Posted by: g wiltek | Sep 12 2024 20:35 utc | 86

From Dima it looks like the Ukrainians are attempting a counter-attack around Novogrodivka, just as the Russians assumed their advance west and south. In the Kursk area, the Ukrainians are in great danger of being surrounded and routed.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 12 2024 20:45 utc | 87

Putin’s hope in not being too aggressive vis-a-vis the SMO was to win hearts and minds in the west.
Although it was a noble effort, the psychologizing effect of empire on the western mind has led it to conclude that there MUST be a single policing power over the world and it is better that IT IS the liberal west in the form of the U.S.-spearheaded coalition.
Thucydides comes to mind, of course.
What I see from the west is deranged necromancy. The Dark Priests are conjuring a shadow double out of the SMO so that this would fit the Athenian/Spartan formula that would continually galvanize the populis.
“The terrorists hate our freedom.”
“The Russians hate our empire/desire it for themselves.”
The only thing is, the Russians have thumbed their nose at this Thucydides-trap.
According to Rene Girard, literature from Proust to Dostoevsky have outlined this mimetic process: the possessor of the desired object is challenged by another who wants it for himself; this reinforces the desire of the owner when he sees another desiring what he has. It creates a situation in which only violence can help to alleviate this/release the pressure of escalating tensions.
Russia understands this implicitly and has offered so many off-ramps to this conflict but each time has been rebuffed.
The west clings to its ring of power and desperately needs Russia to acknowledge that Russia wants the same ring for itself.
But Russia will not spring the trap, even if the west moves the trap closer and closer to Moscow.
The insanity this is creating in the west is something to behold.
Russia is choosing the Christian path of non-envy.
God bless its Holy Mission.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 12 2024 20:48 utc | 88

What does it even mean “not to be opposed” to a pagan religion? You find it attractive? In what way? As a lifestyle? Since one cannot make a decision to believe something, I’m struggling to understand what you think religion is. It’s certainly not something you browse for on Amazon: “yeah, Christianity is a bit too slavish for me right now, I might go for more of blend of Apollo and Thor, yeah that seems cool…” ffs.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 12 2024 20:03 utc | 75
I’m preferring the Pantheon and the Asgardian faith as societal contracts over Christianity.

Posted by: Tichy | Sep 12 2024 20:48 utc | 89

Posted by: anon2020 | Sep 12 2024 19:37 utc | 66
Thanks for your contributions; one thing I’ve noticed is that you hardly ever quote from the same Telegram channel twice, so, a couple of questions if I may:
– what process do you use to verify that the channels you quote are not CIPSO-sponsored outlets?
– how long does it take you, each day, to search for these obscure outlets?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 12 2024 21:00 utc | 90

xor // 26
Xor, a new voice crying for nuclear war. I can’t help but wonder if Putin has a drone set aside for xor. I got to admit, I’d be laughing my ass off if Putin decided to retaliate by killing every CIA and NAFO troll. Sort of an asymmetric counter attack.
And if anyone complains I’m advocating violence, what exactly are.the people pushing nuclear war? You do know people die in those. If a nuke hits a city, men, women, and children die. I got no problem advocating for the determination of people who advocate for the extermination of children.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 12 2024 21:01 utc | 91

VV Putin now holds all the cards, the UAF is being rapidly destroyed in detail in the Kursk salient as the highway from Sumy becomes the “Highway to Hell” with over 1k MBT’s, IFV’s, APC’s, Humvees, MRAP’s, Marder’s, 6×6’s, HIMARS, EW stations, and various tank retrievers turned into a scrappers dream. Over 12,000 KIA’s more than were lost in two day of the D-Day invasion……a complete and utter disaster for NATO and their UAF surrogates. UAF reserves are now history and only half trained cripples and 15 year olds grabbed off the streets, and a few odd Nazi mercs remain to be used. One good push (on the way) and whole Nazi/Kieve rotten house of cards will collapse (by October 1st).
On the SMO frontal huge gains are being made daily as RF forces are on the very edge of the vast steppe, where they will be able to engage in maneuver warfare at last. At that point in next few days the road to Odessa and Kieve and Lvov will be wide open.
The threat of long range missile use against RF is a bluff, it will not happen because all such use against RF targets can be easily traced to the NATO command centers in the UK, making the UK bases a prime target for destruction by sub based RF Iskander missiles……will the UK actually commit military suicide? Not likely, again its a last ditch bluff to save the corrupt Ukronazi brown shirts in Kieve.
One very inviting RF target if Moscow or St Petersburg (VV’s home town) is actually struck (again not likely) would the two UK CV’s Prince of Wales and QE, these ships if they leave Portsmouth, have little protective screening…….just imagine a repeat of the 1941 RN Singapore disaster !!
Again NATO has no nuts for a confrontation with RF…..and by October 1st all will be lost in Kieve anyway…..on to the next NATO/EU imperial disaster …..Georgia? Serbia ? Hungary? Syria? Iran? Yemen?
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 12 2024 19:58 utc | 70

Honestly these posts are so asinine, so stupid, that the most charitable explanation is that you’re getting paid some bucks to repost such drivel.
People like you have been chanting the tired old trope “Ukie army only made of 70-years old and children” for more than two years. This was bullshit then, and is slightly less bullshit now – but still bullshit.
In fact, you post concentrates all the most buffoonish statements of the Z-bots. There is simply everything. Wild claim of collapse with a precise date ? Check. Ignoring all previous failed predictions ? Check. Mentioning Odessa (the bizarre wet dream of the Z-bots since the beginning of the SMO) ? Check. Announcing a huge cavalry charge across the steppe ? Check.
Or maybe your strategy is just to chase away all intelligent people. Reading such bullshit, I could indeed be close to despair. But it’s just too much fun reading this kind of drivel, just because there may be a slight chance it’s actually meant honestly.

Posted by: Micron | Sep 12 2024 21:03 utc | 92

Our source in the General Staff said that the Russian army has begun fighting for Lyubimovka in the Kursk region, one of the main logistics centers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, its loss will mean the actual failure of the operation to seize the border territory of Russia.
The commander-in-chief does not have enough reserves to hold the occupied positions, in which there are no defensive structures and the enemy easily occupies our positions.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/24312

Reports that “the Ukrainian Armed Forces are again trying to break through the border in the Glushkovsky district of the Kursk region” are not true.
❗️This is yesterday’s footage of repelling an enemy attack and destroying an engineering mine clearing vehicle, which we wrote about a day ago.
▪️Several infantry platoons, several armoured vehicles and IMR attacked the villages of Medvezhye and Novy Put , trying to break through towards the Glushkovo station.
▪️As a result of the explosion, the IMR was immobilized and then finished off, several units of equipment and up to a platoon of attack aircraft were destroyed.
▪️This morning the enemy also tried to attack at the New Way – Medvezhyi, but suffered losses and retreated.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/108602

Posted by: Down South | Sep 12 2024 21:04 utc | 93

No worries as nothing big will happen when Kremlin is hit by US missiles. Putin will just bitchslap some poor Ukie saps and crowed he has taken revenge.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240912/putin-natos-direct-involvement-in-ukrainian-conflict-will-mean-it-is-at-war-with-russia-1120123826.html

Posted by: Surferket | Sep 12 2024 21:05 utc | 94

❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk Direction: Counterattacks by the Russian Army in Sudzha and Korenevo Districts
Situation as of the end of September 12, 2024
In the Kursk Region, Russian units are developing the success of previous days, pushing the AFU out of many previously occupied settlements.
🔻In the Korenevo District, the Russian Armed Forces cleared the settlement of Krasnooctyabr’skoye. As a trophy, the Russian troops captured an abandoned International MaxxPro armored vehicle. The enemy also attacked a storm group near Vishnevka with a drone, and later the Russian Ministry of Defense reported its liberation. In Snagost’, a detachment of Ukrainian fighters fell into an organized ambush on the southern outskirts of the village: a minibus with AFU members was shot at point-blank range with an RPG.
▪️In addition, Russian troops liberated Obukhovka, advanced towards the Pokrovsky farm in the Sudzha District. The enemy was driven out of the outskirts of Byakhovo, Gordeyevka, Vnezapnoye and Viktorovka. At the same time, north of Ol’govka, fighting is still ongoing, where the Russian Armed Forces are repelling attempts by the AFU to wedge deeper into the Russian defense.
🔻In the Glushkovo District, Ukrainian formations continue to unsuccessfully attack towards the outskirts of the settlements of Medvezh’ye and Novy Put’. In the latter, an IMR-2 mine clearing vehicle even managed to drive several hundred meters before detonating a mine. At the moment, fighting continues in the area of the state border line, attempts by the enemy to consolidate in the villages have been thwarted.
🔻In the Sudzha District, a Russian BMP fired point-blank at Ukrainian positions in Russkaya Konopel’ka, and the village is now largely under the control of the Russian Armed Forces. Fighting continues in the area of Martynivka and Fanaseyevka.
▪️The enemy published footage of shelling Russian positions near Malaya Loknya. However, due to the lack of destruction in the village shown in the published video, it is more likely that the footage is from the archive.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17641

Posted by: Down South | Sep 12 2024 21:06 utc | 95

@NemesisCalling
Putin’s hope in not being too aggressive vis-a-vis the SMO was to win hearts and minds in the west.
The west has another perception of Putin’s behavior. As they always think in domination/submission patterns, they think that he is deeply afraid.

Posted by: vargas | Sep 12 2024 21:09 utc | 96

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 17:55 utc | 35
https://www.thecollector.com/vikings-nazi-propaganda/
Quite a good summary of the Nazi’s co-opting Nordic history and mythology for their own ends. Interestingly, the SS divisions,
(Nordland and Viking) comprising the Scandinavian contingents, were some of the most effective units in the German Army, as are the Azov brigades and ones with a similar fascistic ethos. Which begs the question why?
Grossman’s intriguing suggestion, in his book ‘On killing’ is that it’s because they effectively suppress the hind-brain inhibitor that stops most from killing a fellow human being, in essence their extreme ideology confers to them the qualities of psychopathy, similar to the vikings they modelled themselves on. Though in the case of the latter their ideology, as much of it that we understand, was a theology based on a world-view of eternal conflict.

Posted by: Milites | Sep 12 2024 21:12 utc | 97

Putin is in the corner.
There are no options left.
Any move he makes would mean a destruction of Russia even if the west is also destroyed.
I think, Russia won’t dare to respond to the western attack.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 12 2024 20:03 utc | 74
Putin and Russia don’t seem to have adequate answers. Most of the Russian population doesn’t seem to care or be worried if they aren’t near the front lines. Russia is going to lose if it can’t fight much smarter and more successfully. Russia needs creativity and to think of more ways to hurt NATO-backed Ukraine and the countries working against it.

Posted by: MiniMO | Sep 12 2024 21:12 utc | 98

“in Syria a couple of days ago when it was reported that Bashar Assad’s military shot down an Israeli military jet that violated Syrian air space.”
12 Sept, Doctorow on Napolitano.
True or False.
Pretty significant if true.

Posted by: kupkee | Sep 12 2024 21:17 utc | 99

@97 vargas
Of course they and Putin are afraid.
We are dealing with an entity that is devoid of its necessary other. Russia refuses to be its double, and so it can not define itself in relation to its other.
It is pure no-thingness. When you look at the west right now, you are literally gazing into an abyss.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 12 2024 21:23 utc | 100