Why so much focus on this Poltova strike? If we believe the MoD that 2000-3000 Ukies every single day, what is the big deal about this Poltova strike? Why so much discussion on both sides about this? Why did this this strike supposedly overwhelm hospitals but not the daily killing?

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 6:02 utc | 3

Ukraine’s government is playing a game of musical chairs. Who is calling the tune?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-arms-chief-two-other-ministers-tender-resignation-top-lawmaker-says-2024-09-03/

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 6:09 utc | 5

Attacke on SuMa, Lvov and Krivoy Rog. Dozens of deaths reported.

Posted by: Apollyon | Sep 4 2024 6:14 utc | 7

Why are these 100 people or so killed so much more worthy of discussion than are the 2000-3000 supposedly killed daily?

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 6:14 utc | 9

@ Wisco | Sep 4 2024 6:02 utc | 3
The most important things about that strike are: RFAF ability to learn in advance / quickly identify troop gatherings; response time from receiving intel to arrival on target; willingness to hit more troops gatherings of more kinds in general.
AFU does not bother with recovering much wounded or any dead from front lines to overwhelm many hospitals. It does still happen. The more valuable the troops the more likely the recovery, like in Kursk.
Swedes possibly got to taste what being a NATO member is like.
Around 600 possible casualties would be the second or third largest (media covered) individual casualty event since NATO merc training base was Kinzhaled two years ago.
Is that enough reasons why, do you think?

Posted by: boneless | Sep 4 2024 6:16 utc | 11

Daily Ukro losses are much lower then the pro Russian crowd thinks they are.
Posted by: vargas | Sep 4 2024 6:14 utc | 8
I think you are probably right about that, Ye Olde Vargas. At least MoD always says losses “up to” such-and-such a number, but people often take the high number stated as the number killed. I dunno.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 6:27 utc | 13

https://t.me/IntelRepublic/41146
The first prisoner to admit blowing up the nuclear plant was a military goal. The article stresses the confession could be made from duress. But this is the first I’ve seen of actual prisoners stating nuclear terrorism was a set goal of the incursion.

Posted by: Hankster | Sep 4 2024 6:30 utc | 15

“The 2-3000 killed every day for obvious reasons do not overwhelm hospitals. The wounded should, but who knows what level of care they receive.
“Of course, talk about overwhelming hospitals (true or not) in a case like this is part of the propaganda war.”
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2024 6:14 utc | 10
Yeah but if 2000-3000 ate killed every day that would suggest 5000-10,000 are injured and need hospitalization daily based on typical ratees of killed vs injured. Right?

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 6:38 utc | 17

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Summary for the Morning of 4 September 2024; 07:05 (GMT+3)📍
🎯The RFAF carried out combined strikes by UAVs and missile weapons on enemy territory at night, it was reported that hypersonic Kinzhals were used. Multiple explosions were heard in #Lvov, #Boryspil and #Brovary in #Kiev region, #Sumy region. In #Lvov region, changes in the schedule of trains. Yesterday afternoon, the RFAF struck at the 179th Ttraining Centre of Communication Troops, more than 50 militants were killed, up to 300 wounded.
🔹In the #Kursk region, fighting continues on the former borders of Sudzhansky and Korenevsky districts, the enemy is attacking in several waves, trying to immediately gain a foothold in the second echelon. The AFU, making up for the sensitive losses, is constantly moving armoured vehicles and personnel in small groups through the Sudzha Checkpoint. It is not always possible to cover the enemy on the road. Our aviation is working on enemy concentrations in forest areas, using FAB-3000 with UMPC and ODAB.🎬👇Strikes by aviation and missile weapons have been intensified in the neighbouring #Sumy region. To the north, on the border of #Bryansk region, there have been isolated reports of intensified shelling by the AFU in order to disrupt our logistics.
🔹In the #Kupyansk direction, there are reports of fighting in #Sinkovka and in the area of #Peschanoye.
🔹In the #Toretsk (#Dzerzhinsk) agglomeration, there is fighting on the outskirts of #Dzerzhinsk and an advance in the village of #Druzhba.
🔹In the #Pokrovsk direction, the RFAF are turning to the southern direction. There is fighting for #Selidovo, #Ukrainsk and at #Zhelannoye1st, which creates a threat of encirclement for the AFU in the area of #Zhelannoye2nd – #Krasnogorovka – #Nevelskoye.
🔹In the #Ugledar area to the east and west, there is intense fighting. The Russian Army is pushing through the AFU defences in the area of #Prechistovka, the Yuzhnodonbasskaya No. 1 Mine and #Vodyanoye. Against the background of the extremely intensive use of drones by the enemy, the RFAF are using infantry rather than armoured vehicles. #Ugledar itself is being harassed with all available means. The enemy characterises the situation as ‘very difficult’.
🔹In the #Kherson direction, mutual drone strikes and artillery. Our troops are targeting enemy concentrations on the right bank of the #Dnieper.
🛡Over #Belgorod, Belgorod district and Yakovlevsky urban district our air defence system worked in the morning. Several air targets were shot down. According to preliminary information, there were no casualties or serious damage.
💥In the #DPR, in #Gorlovka, a woman born in 1949 was wounded as a result of AFU strikes. Six people were wounded by cluster artillery shells: women born in 1949, 1963 and 1994, and men born in 1973, 1980 and 1987. In the village of #Olginka, Volnovakha municipal district, a man born in 1965 was wounded as a result of a tractor being blown up by an explosive object during field work.

https://t.me/two_majors/31033

Posted by: Down South | Sep 4 2024 6:41 utc | 19

He said more changes were likely to happen within his office and that “certain areas of our foreign and domestic policies will have a slightly different emphasis”.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 6:29 utc | 14
Apparently there were already 5 ministries without ministers. With a further lot of 6 then he’s about to have a basically new team.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/4/major-political-shake-up-starts-in-ukraine-arms-chief-ministers-quit
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P.S. As for certain trolls asking for why the numbers are considered KIA, consider that the AFU has often mentioned the monthly needs. So it is possible to infer how many they lose permanently and that half of those were KIA.
Furthermore you’ll see that ukraine is currently not able to fill the gaps, in spite of currently drafting more than 60.000 per month (almost 130.000 july and august)
https://mskvremya.ru/article/2023/1520-poteri-ukrainy-za-vremya-spetsoperatsii
As for the hospitals, one thing is a strealined system over a 1000km line and several hospitals (even in the field) , the other is a point attack where you get high hundreds of wounded (kinzhal level wounded, probably very very damaged) in a city with limited medical resources (many are in the aforementioned front line health factory system)

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 4 2024 6:44 utc | 21

Apparently there were already 5 ministries without ministers.
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 4 2024 6:44 utc | 21
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Ukraine is a ghost ship.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 6:50 utc | 23

🔹In the #Ugledar area to the east and west, there is intense fighting. The Russian Army is pushing through the AFU defences in the area of #Prechistovka, the Yuzhnodonbasskaya No. 1 Mine and #Vodyanoye. Against the background of the extremely intensive use of drones by the enemy, the RFAF are using infantry rather than armoured vehicles. #Ugledar itself is being harassed with all available means. The enemy characterises the situation as ‘very difficult’.
Posted by: Down South | Sep 4 2024 6:41 utc | 19
Prechistovka, so after closing the O0532 RF is also closing the T0509. That should dry logistics and limit any effective retreat.
Yuzhnodonbasskaya No. 1 Mine and #Vodyanoye so 3 km and 5 km from Ugledar proper. That means anything goes as far as artillery bombing. And not far in days for probing attacks.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 4 2024 6:54 utc | 25

‼️🇷🇺 The Russian Army is successfully advancing in the Ugledar direction
▪️Ugledar direction. The Russian Armed Forces have liberated the remaining western part of Prechistovka and have consolidated their positions along forest belts in an area up to 3.4 km wide.
To the east of the Yuzhnodonbasskaya No. 1 mine, Russian troops have consolidated their positions along a forest belt up to 2.1 km wide and are continuing assault operations on the territory of the aforementioned mine.
To the south and east of Vodyanoye, our units have consolidated their positions in the area of ​​the Mylny pond, on the outskirts of summer cottages and along forest belts, occupying an area up to 3.6 km wide and up to 1.72 km deep.
▪️Pokrovsk direction. In the southwestern part of Galitsynovka, our troops are consolidating their positions in residential buildings.
In the area of ​​Ukrainsk, Selidovo, Novogrodovka and Grodovka, clashes of varying intensity continue.
▪️Toretsk direction. In the northwestern part of the village of Druzhba, Russian troops are gaining a foothold on Ivan Mazepy Street.
In Toretsk, clashes continue along the streets of Centralnaya, Lesnaya and Viktor Sorochuk for the waste heap of the Novaya mine.

https://t.me/geromanat/33794

Posted by: Down South | Sep 4 2024 6:58 utc | 27

The smallest dogs make the most noise.
And don’t worry about the consequences.
🇱🇻 “Following the Russian attack on Poltava, Latvian President Rinkēvičs called for the lifting of all restrictions on Ukraine’s use of Western weapons.”

Posted by: jpc | Sep 4 2024 7:03 utc | 29

I ask again, why is this strike on one place in Poltova that killed maybe 100 people so much more worthy of discussion than are the 2000-3000 people supposedly killed every single day for the past 3 months or so? Just because some Twitter poster said there were a few Swedes there which hasn’t even been confirmed? Are Swedes THAT much more important than Ukrainians?

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:06 utc | 31

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 6:29 utc | 14
expect the replacements to all have a US (indoctrination) background ( like Sakaaschwilli in Georgia )

Posted by: MAKK | Sep 4 2024 7:13 utc | 33

@ Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:06 utc | 31
You appear to follow the Westerner way of evaluating events solely on immediate social media activity. Your biggest gripe here is people allegedly talking too much about an immediate event. Which happens every major missile strike by the way, you would have noticed that had you paid any attention to this war instead of hiding your head in sand every time you hear something you don’t like.
Discussions on AFU casualty rates spiking have been going for months since RF reopened Kharkov front. The results of such casualty increase could be seen for the last few months, ever accelerating. Where were you all this time, not even last month’s Kursk suicide could wake you.

Posted by: boneless | Sep 4 2024 7:18 utc | 35

I ask again,
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:06 utc | 31
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I answer again. Pay attention this time.
The casualties in Poltova were members of the cadre class and not the common plebs that die on the frontlines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadre_(politics)

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 7:23 utc | 37

Suddenly Ukie hospitals are overwhelmed because of this one strike that killed 100 people or so? Why aren’t they overwhelmed by the supposed 2-3000 killed every day?
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 6:08 utc | 4
I’m not sure if you ever worked or used the services of a hospital, but hospitals tend not to provide services for dead people.
So 3,000deaths per day or 10,000 deaths per day won’t overwhelm hospital care. The mortuary service, maybe.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 4 2024 7:25 utc | 39

This troll broke, keeps saying the same thing, bring in the next one.

Posted by: boneless | Sep 4 2024 7:40 utc | 41

if the “cadre class” has 30x more importance
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:34 utc | 40
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The Media is designed to influence the Cadres. Cadres have agency over Plebs so of course they are more important.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 7:42 utc | 43

Posted by: boneless | Sep 4 2024 7:24 utc | 38
True. And sometimes even correct (stopped clock….).
I’m not trying to be a troll or belligerent, but it just strikes me as very wrong how much attention this one event gets compared to the daily 2000-3000 killed. Just because it made headlines in western MSM media, probably.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:45 utc | 45

Why are these 100 people or so killed so much more worthy of discussion than are the 2000-3000 supposedly killed daily?
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 6:14 utc | 9
Well, maybe because the frontline is over 1000km long, and the wounded don’t usually make it all the way back to hospitals. Chop shops (organ harvesting sites) clear most along the way.
But here, in Poltava, all those juicy bodies in one place. Bingo!

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 4 2024 7:51 utc | 47

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:45 utc | 45
Strongly consider the possibility that you may be wrong before you post anything else.
Like others here who felt compelled to respond to your oddball comments, I can’t see why we have to persuade you that it may be significant that several hundred newly graduating Ukrainian radar operators and drone specialists have been eliminated by two hypersonic missiles.
There are dozens of reasons why that particular strike is significant and newsworthy. Don’t let your inability to see this destroy this thread for everyone else.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 4 2024 7:55 utc | 49

“Well, maybe because the frontline is over 1000km long, and the wounded don’t usually make it all the way back to hospitals. Chop shops (organ harvesting sites) clear most along the way.
“But here, in Poltava, all those juicy bodies in one place. Bingo!”
Posted by: Suresh | Sep 4 2024 7:51 utc | 47
That normally would make good sense, but we all know that the front around Poltova has been the focus of heavy fighting for a few weeks already and the MoD has daily put out numbers much higher than the numbers from this one attack every day. The action around Poltova has been much more intense than the average for the 1000 km front. The “front” isn’t one homogenous mass of warfare all at the same intensity.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:58 utc | 51

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 4 2024 7:55 utc | 49
Right. So you say they are 30x more important than the meat-grinder Slavs dying daily. And I’m the bad guy for even questioning it. And “ruining the thread”.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 8:11 utc | 53

Also claims 10 active British military officers were destroyed during the strike on Grand Palace hotel in Zaporozhye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxoEDtSgfFc

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2024 8:16 utc | 55

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Sep 4 2024 8:11 utc | 54
You ain’t clueless!

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 8:22 utc | 57

Of course, what’s hysterical and egregious is reading Western media; I’ve seen a livestream in which they claimed it was some barbaric attack on civilians and Russia has to be punished, just to be followed by Ukrainian admission a military institute has been hit during some military ceremony, without said media acknowledging that one of these must be wrong, or that Western politicians were lying trash to claim it as a random barbaric massacre of innocent civilians.
Posted by: Clueless Joe | Sep 4 2024 8:11 utc | 54

thats why i always immediately rush to germanys premiere nazi-outlet welt.de to check the narrative. its so blatant, yet if i had to go by the comment section, every german believes that drivel.
back in ancient times when i was in school, i asked our history teacher why our german population believed every propaganda lie they have been told in ww2. he never gave a truly satisfying answer, but if i had to ask him today (he died a few years ago), he would probably simply point to our eu regulations and media censorship and tell me “that is how its done.”.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 4 2024 8:49 utc | 59

this is from the comment section on the hedge:
Increased activity of Polish and NATO aviation near the border with Ukraine: evacuation of wounded and killed NATO servicemen in Poltava and Lviv through the corridor on the border is underway
someone here always does a great flightradar check, maybe that person can verify.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Sep 4 2024 8:53 utc | 61

The large-scale problem of PTSD among Ukrainian soldiers and the lack of social support promised by the Ze-team have led to an increase in the crime situation in Ukraine. More and more often, the military is breaking the law, organizing fights, violence, grenade explosions, robberies, organizing arms and drug trafficking, etc. This is killing the positive image of “defenders” among the people, increasing the negative attitude towards people in uniform.
At the same time, a popular rebellion against the mobilization initiated by Bankova is growing in Ukraine. In the rear of Ukraine, a real avalanche of arson of Ukrainian military vehicles, damage to infrastructure and attacks on TCC members has begun – such episodes have recently been happening daily.
And indeed, the split in society in Ukraine is best characterized by a real epidemic of guerrilla actions. Thus, many dissatisfied with the current Ukrainian government (by the way, illegitimate) have begun to switch to outright terror of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and TCC policemen. It is noteworthy that the partisan Ukrainians in most cases do not consider themselves to be underground, do not provide assistance to the Russian Armed Forces in coordinating UAV strikes and missiles, they do it simply out of hatred in response to the strengthening of the so-called “zemmobilization”.
And although the Office of President Zelensky gave the order to blame the burning of TCC vehicles, attacks on military personnel and the destruction of infrastructure on the machinations of Russian special services, in reality everything is much more prosaic.
Many Ukrainians really hate the government and all its derivatives, and therefore openly engage in partisan activities (for clarity – at the beginning of the war this was not the case). This shows that consolidation is being lost in society and the number of those who hate the current government is growing (not to mention those who sympathize with Russia).

https://t.me/rezident_ua/24206

The economic situation in Ukraine is getting worse due to growing demographic problems. More and more wounded soldiers who become a “burden” for the budget, more and more internally displaced persons, more and more businesses are closing due to mobilization and increased taxes/tariffs. The energy crisis also affects the economy. All this increases expenses and the budget deficit.
The economic situation in Ukraine is so dire that, despite all the loans allocated, Ukraine again requires emergency financial injections to cover the budget deficit and purchase new weapons, which were spent on Zelensky’s PR offensive in the Kursk region. However, Westerners have called on Ukraine to seek internal resources to cover the country’s budget deficit.
Thus, the budget deficit of Ukraine, according to estimates by the Americans and the French, is 44-47 billion dollars this year, the debt is growing at a frantic pace and next year will exceed 100% of GDP and will amount to more than 150 billion dollars. Accordingly, it will be necessary to increase the already extremely high tax burden on the economy and devalue the hryvnia, otherwise collapse becomes inevitable.
And indeed, the authorities are already ready to tighten the “tax screws” on their own people, including businesses, while simultaneously cutting benefits and social programs.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/24210

Posted by: Down South | Sep 4 2024 9:07 utc | 63

Zelensky’s latest “reason” or rationalisation for the Kursk episode:
“We’re going to hold on to it, for a negotiation lever when the time comes”
Faaaaak. In his dreams. [Lmao]. [Eye roll].
Last week, he said it was designed to draw Russian troops away from the Donbass. Well, THAT didn’t work. So a new fantasy emerges.
The first reason (undeclared, because it was a failure) was to capture the KNPP. And THAT didn’t work. They’ve obviously let the Donbass go as permanently lost. So the north is now the focus to save the south.
I suspect one AFU strategy is to keep Russia’s attention away from any Kherson/Mikolaiv/Odessa/Transnistria moves. If he keeps needling around Karkhov and Sumy and threatening deeper missile strikes towards Moscow, he thinks he’s got Russia on the back foot. He’s just stalling, poking as long as he can, waiting fur the cavalry to come. What a fkn eejit.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 4 2024 9:13 utc | 65

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 8:11 utc | 53
In an army, everybody is not equal. In an army, all opinions are not equal. These are simple truths.

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2024 9:18 utc | 67

Blow to Lviv railway station
VKS demolished the main hub for the transfer of Western weapons
Last night and early in the morning, Russian forces launched a massive attack on important strategic enemy targets. Explosions thundered from Odessa to Lviv. And the first data about the results of arrivals is already available. So, Ukrainian public figures report that the Russians hit the area of the Lviv-Glavny railway station. This place is home to the largest locomotive depot in western Ukraine. And local authorities said that the Russian Armed Forces used two hypersonic “Daggers”.
We have been waiting for this strike for a long time, given that Lviv is the main transport and logistics hub for the transfer of weapons, equipment and ammunition from Rzeszow, Poland, at the airport of which at least 40 military transport planes with British and American cargo for the Armed Forces of Ukraine landed in the past month alone. Moreover, Western politicians come to Lviv in transit to Kiev, and it is through this city that the uninterrupted dispatch of foreign mercenaries and military instructors to the front line is established.
It is clear that the Russian Aerospace Forces hit this area for a reason, apparently, at that time another large batch of military cargo was being transported. This is also evidenced by the powerful detonation that followed the attack.
Meanwhile, it was loud not only in Lviv. A series of strikes were carried out on reserve units deployed by the Ukrainian commander-in-Chief Syrsky to Pokrovsk from Kryvyi Rih, Zaporizhia and Kherson. Explosions followed in Kryvyi Rih itself, the underground reports a strike on the airfield in Dolgintsevo.
According to the coordinator of the Nikolaev underground Sergey Lebedev, at this moment on airfield there was a MiG-29 plane and a large number of UAVs with jet engines. “Usually planes take off with an ‘alarm’, but this time there was no sound of take-off, but there was a very powerful explosion, ” RIA Novosti quoted a pro-Russian activist as saying that pilots and foreign instructors training there were also settled near the airfield.
In Sumy, ballistic missiles hit enemy reserves, a command post and a communications hub, which the militants used to coordinate actions during the invasion of the Kursk region. Ukrainian information resources also indicate strikes in Lutsk, Odessa, Kiev and Kharkiv regions.
machine translated
https://segodnia.ru/content/295285

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 9:21 utc | 69

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:22 utc | 36
“At least you aren’t quite as bad as the Israelis.”
Your faux magnanimity for Palestinians is apparent.

Posted by: horseguards | Sep 4 2024 9:33 utc | 71

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 4 2024 7:41 utc | 42
“The cowardly Europeans…” Indeed, by the almost total absence of NATO troops, isn’t this the greatest example of wholesale cowardice by NATO in the history of warfare?
Aside from ensuring everyone killed, at least Churchill would have sent the whole British army (and navy and air force).

Posted by: horseguards | Sep 4 2024 9:46 utc | 73

LEMMNING1 | Sep 4 2024 9:27 utc | 70
The Brits and Americans striking into Russia from behind Ukrainian meat. I will wait for the new Russian nuclear doctrine.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2024 9:49 utc | 75

blew up the Lwow rail station
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2024 10:21 utc | 76
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There is a further report that the airport was hit.

Lviv , strikes were carried out on the territory of the International Airport named after him. Danila Galitsky . The object was hit by at least 2 (two) Kinzhal hypersonic missiles and 2 (two) X-101/555 cruise missiles. According to preliminary data, as a result of the strikes , two MiG-29s of the Ukrainian Air Force were destroyed and another Su-24M was damaged . Exact locations of hits are unknown. It is worth noting that the passage along the Sknilovsky Bridge , which provides a view of the airport territory, is blocked according to local authorities.
excerpted and machine translated
https://t.me/don_partizan/5054

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 10:28 utc | 77

🇸🇪🇺🇦 Analysis of the missile strike on the Poltava training center: consequences and conclusions
The missile strike on the communications forces’ training center in Poltava was a significant event not only in the context of current military operations, but also in the light of international defense cooperation. In addition to significant losses among AFU servicemen, the strike destroyed several foreign instructors from Sweden, which opens new aspects.
🔻 The attack on the training center in Poltava was aimed at destroying infrastructure and neutralizing trained personnel. However, this case became particularly notable not only because of the huge losses among enemy personnel, but also because of the presence of foreign instructors, particularly Swedish specialists who were supposed to train Ukrainian personnel to operate the latest ASC 890 airborne radar systems.
Sweden, which had planned the delivery of these aircraft and related training, faced the unexpected loss of its instructors, which emphasizes the high risks and uncertainties associated with international military cooperation for Ukraine.
🔻 What are the possible consequences?
▪️ Given that Sweden had been planning to deliver state-of-the-art airborne radar aircraft, the destruction of the instructors will hamper the training of Ukrainian personnel and delay the integration of the new equipment.
▪️ The death of foreign instructors will complicate diplomatic relations between Ukraine and Sweden. This event could cause a negative reaction from the Swedish government and the public, which could lead to a reconsideration of plans to supply military equipment and revise the level of support for Ukraine.
▪️ The strike on the training center may also affect the AFU’s operational plans. The loss of trained specialists requires a revision of plans for training and the training of new personnel. This places an additional burden on the Ukrainian armed forces and may slow the introduction of new technologies and systems.
📌 The missile strike on the training center in Poltava demonstrated that no international cooperation is immune to surprises. Now Sweden, which had planned to supply Ukraine with the latest airborne radar planes, is forced to reconsider its ambitions, and Ukraine – as usual, fell face down in the mud. I wonder how Swedish partners will now discuss equipment deliveries taking into account the new “experience” in security and logistics.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/107970

Posted by: Down South | Sep 4 2024 10:33 utc | 79

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 10:28 utc | 77
Just taking a pot shot guess, but Nato was in the process of attempting to set up that airport to be capable of arming missiles. Nato hasn’t been able to achieve a base capable of arming missiles (much harder than fueling due to required special loading equipment and missile stockpile). The ground crew for rearming would also be from Nato.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2024 10:40 utc | 81

“I ask again, why is this strike on one place in Poltova that killed maybe 100 people so much more worthy of discussion than are the 2000-3000 people supposedly killed every single day for the past 3 months or so? Just because some Twitter poster said there were a few Swedes there which hasn’t even been confirmed? Are Swedes THAT much more important than Ukrainians?”
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 4 2024 7:06 utc | 31
For Fuck’s Sake they were officers getting killed not your usual cannonfodder Peasants, that makes a monumental difference s a previoius poster revealed but you keep ploughing on on fallow ground..
Kindly please obsess on something else.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 4 2024 10:54 utc | 83

SCOTT RITTER: On a Highway to Hell
Excerpt:
The last Nuclear Employment Guidance document . . . fully incorporated the new low-yield W-76-2 nuclear warhead into the nuclear employment plans of the United States. It did the same for the new generation of B-61 gravity bombs that constitute NATO’s nuclear deterrence force.
The employment plans . . . were based upon the concept of “escalate to de-escalate” (i.e. by using a small nuclear weapon, the U.S. and NATO would deter Russia from escalating out of fear of bringing on a general nuclear exchange.)
In short, America’s nuclear war plans were front-loaded for the localized employment of nuclear weapons against both a Russian and Chinese threat . . .
the Biden administration is now confronted with the possibility and or probability of a much larger, capable Chinese strategic nuclear force capable of surviving a limited U.S. first-strike and delivering a nation-killing nuclear payload to U.S. soil in retaliation.
To adjust to this new reality, the U.S. would need to allocate nuclear warheads currently targeted against Russia onto China. This would require that the U.S. not only develop revised target lists for both Russia and China, but also rethink targeting strategies in general, looking to maximum physical destruction over political impact.
More dangerously, the U.S. would have to look at employment strategies that maximized the element of surprise to ensure all targets were hit by their designated weapons.
This would require a change in the readiness posture and operational deployment areas of U.S. nuclear forces.
With increased readiness comes the need for vigilance against any preemption efforts by a potential nuclear adversary, meaning that U.S. nuclear forces will be placed on a higher alert status.
In short, the risk of nuclear war, inadvertent or otherwise, has become exponentially greater . . .
the U.S. is going to let the New START treaty lapse in February 2026 — once the treaty goes away, so, too, does the cap on the number of deployed warheads, and the U.S. nuclear establishment will be able to build up the U.S. operational nuclear arsenal so that there are enough weapons for every designated target.

Posted by: Perimetr | Sep 4 2024 11:04 utc | 85

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 4 2024 11:08 utc | 86
The Hryvnia will probably collapse. The west could keep propping it up, but is too strained combined with upcoming financial upheaval and gradual losing USD status. And what incentive exists for BlackRock or banking cartel keep propping up Ukraine if mobilization goals fall short of targets and the thing simply collapses? First the front, then the state. I think state apparatuses will collapse without external funding.
Most likely Ukraine’s USD or EUR denominated debt will become mostly write-offs. Expect to see BlackRock trying to productize and offload them off to western retail investors to mitigate their loss of Ukraine.
The other alternative path is we see more escalation, because the Ukraine debt could literally crash the Eurozone, and seriously hurt the US economy through the Eurozone (i.e. hurt the west). The escalation (which could go nuclear soon) is designed to hide these implosions.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2024 11:14 utc | 87

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 4 2024 10:35 utc | 80
Message to the west is quite clear, you are not safe on Ukraine land, we can hit everywhere and at any time.
Not shure if this is a cansequence of enhanced air control by RF or some sort of agreement that is no more valid.
I remember a Russian drone following the convoy of Annalena Barebock a few month ago, with no hit.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 4 2024 11:15 utc | 89

Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Sep 4 2024 11:16 utc | 90
Correct. This was planned as a blackmail operation, whether for exchange – ZNPP vs. KPP – or for something else who knows…

Posted by: Boo | Sep 4 2024 11:25 utc | 91

VKS demolished the main hub for the transfer of Western weapons
Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 9:21 utc | 69

Which is something that should have been done on Day 1, not Day 923.

Posted by: Gnome Sane | Sep 4 2024 11:30 utc | 93

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 4 2024 11:14 utc | 87
The NBU has been heavily involved in propping up the hryvnia, effectively operating a kind of daily spot-fix system. This has been at considerable expense to its own reserves.
It was slightly surprising that the last IMF meeting didn’t insist on changes to this, perhaps setting a wider range band for fluctuations. I certainly can’t see scope for interest-rate cuts, given the state of Ukrainian bonds.
I wonder if the forthcoming meeting is setting the scene for pulling the plug? Swingeing IMF-driven austerity measures bringing down the Kiev junta?
Blackrock will be made whole somehow, probably some accounting trick allowing them to mark their holdings at face-value rather than actual marketable value.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 4 2024 11:33 utc | 95

reply to 63
Thank you for posting that information. In the heat of discussion, it may be difficult to have respect for male Ukrainians and their lives. I have speculated that Ukraine’s decay is Darwinian and those left are too passive to resist their enslavers to any effective degree. Burning a few cars isn’t going to do it. It’s good to hear that more is being done to stop the march to slaughter of Ukr men while the government worries about dead Swedes.

Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 4 2024 11:36 utc | 97

some accounting trick allowing them to mark their holdings at face-value
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 4 2024 11:33 utc | 95
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Sure. That works as long as they don’t need liquidity, which is notoriously difficult to hedge.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 4 2024 11:45 utc | 99