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September 1, 2024
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2024-208

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Israeli businesses are collapsing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNVMpd8yNio
Length: 6 minutes
(I couldn’t find the associated webarticle at the “Cradle” website)

Posted by: WMG | Sep 2 2024 11:01 utc | 101

Posted by: WMG | Sep 2 2024 11:01 utc | 101
There’s this excerpt from a wider-ranging piece here: https://thecradle.co/articles/israels-overreach-the-perils-of-ignoring-power-limits

Several indicators suggest that Israel, by continuing its war in Gaza, may be approaching the limits of its power. For starters, economic strain is becoming evident despite Israel’s historically strong economy. In the last quarter of 2023, Israel’s GDP contracted by about 20 percent compared to the previous year.
There was also a significant decrease in consumption by 27 percent, and investment fell dramatically by 70 percent. The war has disabled approximately 18 percent of Israel’s workforce, with 250,000 civilians displaced and four percent of the workforce called up as reservists.
In response, the occupation state plans to increase military spending from four percent to six or seven percent of GDP by the decade’s end. This increase in military spending comes as the global economy is already under strain, and the US is less capable of providing the same financial support as in the past.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 2 2024 11:18 utc | 102

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 2 2024 6:20 utc | 86 1 11:20 PM
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Unless you are referring to a different frkorz post listing, their post @9 above did not include any data from Aug 31 Ukraine Open Thread 2024-206 – which began on August 29, 2024.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 2 2024 6:06 utc | 84

Thanks Fred, you have just confirmed my theory that frkoz cherry picked threads and posts to include in his big list.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 2 2024 6:20 utc | 86 1 11:20 PM

funny you did not notice the following line in my post 9:
Peteryourwifecalled|1 Oliver Krug|3 Milites|45
some cherry picking i did. you cherry picked by not checking my post.

Posted by: frkorz | Sep 2 2024 11:55 utc | 103

Posted by: frkorz | Sep 2 2024 11:55 utc | 103
also that day is not included because i only did closed threads and that thread is still open.

Posted by: frkorz | Sep 2 2024 12:05 utc | 104

When pseudo-AI is rewriting the internet. Making sense of the thousands of BS articles must be difficult. Check that:
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23190533
Searching for it with Brave (!!) you get an AI summary on top of page (not a wiki page) that is titled “Cannibalism case in the Syrian army”…
Puke.

Posted by: Tom | Sep 2 2024 12:10 utc | 105

Germany. Elections for the state of Saxony.
– before the elections the voting system is changed. The new system gives small parties more seats, big parties less seats. This gives less seats to the AFD opposition.
– after the elections a “software error” is corrected. The correction removes a seat from AfD and CdU opposition, gives two seats to the parties of the federal government. After this change AFD no longer has a blocking minority.
This is vote manipulation.
(For experts: Voting system used to be D’Hondt method, now Sainte-Laguë)

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 2 2024 12:35 utc | 106

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/09/02/geert-wilders-for-breitbart-the-netherlands-is-taking-a-pakistani-imam-to-court-for-issuing-fatwa-and-deserves-the-wests-support/

Today, September 2nd, is a historic day. It is the first time ever that an Islamic cleric will have to stand trial for issuing an assassination fatwa.
In a few weeks, it will be 20 years since policemen wearing bulletproof vests and carrying machine guns arrived at my home. They gave me ten minutes to pack, pushed me into an armoured car and drove me off to an unknown destination. The evening of November 4, 2004, was the last time that my wife and I were in our house. Since that moment, we have been forced to live in various safe houses. We have lost our freedom and privacy. Everywhere I go, I am constantly surrounded by bodyguards.
The same thing happened on that ominous evening to my colleague, fellow member of the Dutch Parliament, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a fugitive from Islamic Somalia. We had both been fierce critics of Islam and the Islamization of our country, the Netherlands. As a result of this, Islamic death threats or fatwas ordering the Islamic faithful to kill us had been issued.
Since then, Ayaan has left Dutch politics and emigrated to the United States. I stayed and founded my own party, the Party for Freedom (PVV), which is currently the largest party in the Netherlands and the largest party in the ruling government coalition.
I have always been a firm defender of freedom of speech. It is the bedrock of a free society and a functioning democracy. I will never be silenced. Fatwas, death threats, being on the death list of the Taliban and ISIS, nothing will ever stop me from telling the inconvenient truth.
I realize, however, that the fatwas and death threats against me – rare is the day that I do not receive one in my mailbox – are not just intended to silence me, but also to intimidate everyone else not to be as ‘reckless’ as me in voicing their opinion.
Fatwas are a direct assault on freedom of speech. The Iranian Ayatollah Khomeini has never been taken to court for his 1989 fatwa condemning the British author Salman Rushdie to death, but he should have been.

I don’t understand why it has taken so many years for this to happen; like most unfolding these days in the West.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2024 13:12 utc | 107

does anyone want to try to explain to me this popular term in the msm ‘far right’?? thanks..
Posted by: james | Sep 2 2024 3:19 utc | 65
Anyone who is not woke neo-liberal.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 2 2024 4:08 utc
“Far right” is now anyone who was a liberal like Clinton or Obama who were provably against gay marriage. Now being againt gay marriage is unthinkably far right and nazi.
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 2 2024 4:56 utc | 71
“Far Right” is an empire generated, divide and conquer meme to divide the working class and silence peoples voice.

Posted by: simon crow | Sep 2 2024 13:19 utc | 108

labels are crap meant only to divide, but the contemporary domestic US application of “far right” is now directed only to those who in fairer assessment would be considered “leftist”.
It is not as if they can point fingers with hostility at NAZI’s.
with the terminology upended and “progressive” being stolen by Fascists, the terms have lost any other usefulness.
labels are for bigots.
but there is no shortage thereof.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 2 2024 13:30 utc | 109

https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/09/01/how-lula-and-modi-drove-a-splinter-through-the-heart-of-the-brics-bloc/
Cracks in BRICS.
Confused and confusing. The more you know the more you don’t.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2024 14:21 utc | 110

james 65:

does anyone want to try to explain to me this popular term in the msm ‘far right’?? thanks..
German far right hails ‘historic’ election victory in east

I too would like an updated definition. Back in the day, the left-right dichotomy had a fairly specific economic context, and it wasn’t this “Take from the white working class ‘deplorables’ and give to the lumpenproletariat” nonsense. Compassion for the unfortunate was always something of a leftish trait, but as an adjunct; subordinate to what being “left” really meant. It certainly didn’t encapsulate the entire definition of “left”. To me, the dichotomy always boiled down to whether you stood with (the owners of) Capital or with (the owners of) Labor. Everything else was a distant second.
There are many who have been called “far right”, but do they stand stand with big business or with working people? Viktor Orban, for instance, or even Alexander Lukashenko has been called right wing. Putin is often classified by western presstitutes as right wing as well. Do these individuals lean towards working people or towards big business elites? If they had to choose between Blackrock and some grubby coal miners, which way would they go? And would that choice be informed by something as shallow and ephemeral as “compassion for the unfortunate” or some more fundamental understanding of the world?
My view is that in the desperate struggle by the servants of Big Capital (presstitutes and academia) to bury the ideas of Marx and successors, the very concept of left-right has been corrupted to be harmless to big business, with every hint of class struggle expunged.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 14:22 utc | 111

peter au, wisco and exile
thanks for your take on what ‘far right’ term means in the msm at present.. it seems the msm use of this term is contrived to me..
@ Fred | Sep 2 2024 5:41 utc | 80
the person offered to comment on it and didn’t converse in any way… my viewpoint stands..
@ simon crow | Sep 2 2024 13:19 utc | 108
your viewpoint is very in line with my own.. thanks..
@ Not Ewe | Sep 2 2024 13:30 utc | 109
thanks.. yes, i see it this way as well..
@ William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 14:22 utc | 111
that is the best explanation yet william… thanks for articulating all that.. it seems to me the media is playing the role of servant to the corporations and various different business lobbies.. it isn’t in the interest of the general public.. that is why we are seeing this disconnect at this point in time… most people are not being represented by the political leaders and especially this ongoing push for war 24-7… instead any alternative party that is opposed to this is labelled ”far right”.. it is complete bullshit to me and i do believe it needs to be discussed by more people… mis labeling things is purposeful here and for all the wrong reasons..

Posted by: james | Sep 2 2024 14:48 utc | 112

this person offered ”no” comment on it.. that is the correction to my comment to fred..

Posted by: james | Sep 2 2024 14:49 utc | 113

“The weird thing is that so many people still think Trump is going to be the big savior.”
Just announce openly that you are a dembot with severe Trump Derangement Syndrome who exists in an insulated delusion where you are the intelligent and aware one and the “Trumpists” are the deluded fools. The fact is that the “MAGA people” who enjoy professional wrestling know it is fake, while you are the fool who thinks it is real.
The big “tell” here is that you think Trump supporters believe him to be “the savior”. Michael Moore got it right back in 2016, but you TDS people still cling to the delusion that they are ignorant fools and you are smart. Reality is the exact opposite. Trump supporters don’t view him as savior, but rather as destroyer, and you are not smart, you are a deluded idiot.
The most interesting part here is that Trump doesn’t even have to intend to be “the destroyer” to fulfill his role. The brick’s intention is irrelevant when it is hurled through a window. Nobody really cares what the brick feels about the window.
Trump: “Let’s steal Syria’s oil!”
TDS person: “Nooo! You said the quiet part… I mean, we’re really in Syria to help the Syrian people have gay parades! Trump is a bad man for saying we want the oil!”
The reality is Trump steals your masque and invalidates all of your furiously signaled virtue. His very existence reduces your “values” to subjects of ridicule, and that is actually why you hate him so much. Trumpists are not expecting salvation; they are expecting you TDS people’s heads to explode, and explode they will because you cannot help it. You are slaves to your own delusions.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 15:11 utc | 114

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 15:11 utc | 114
Are you claiming that the candid Trump fans don’t exist in great numbers ?

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 2 2024 15:36 utc | 115

So for our australian friends, how does it feel to pay to be put in the cross-hair of a future conflict?
The term “ukie of the southern hemisphere” is now being awarded and the Koala will be their animal spirit.
” The Australian Institute for Public Affairs research institute has recommended that the Royal Australian Air Force acquire B-21 Raider next generation stealth bombers from the United States, with the intercontinental range strategic aircraft seen as a valuable complement to the country’s nuclear attack submarines currently on order…
…The possibility of Australia acquiring B-21 bombers has been raised since the late 2010s, while the possibility of the country entering a nuclear sharing agreement with the United States to be able to use American nuclear warheads in wartime has been raised increasingly since 2021. Nuclear sharing would allow each B-21 to drop 12 B61-12 precision guided nuclear bombs on separate targets across a targeted state, with the bombs having variable yields of between 300 tons and 50,000 tons allowing them to strike small targets such as fortifications, or larger ones such as major cities….”
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/stealth-bomber-aukus-b21-australia

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 2 2024 15:42 utc | 116

Parisian Guy @115
Trump fans exist just like fans of pro wrestlers exist, and there is a bit of crossover between the two. Trump has a presence in the pro wrestling world, after all.
But people knowing that it is just a show doesn’t make them less fans.
Strange that some people are having such a hard time understanding this.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 15:46 utc | 117

Trumpists are not expecting salvation; they are expecting you TDS people’s heads to explode, and explode they will because you cannot help it. You are slaves to your own delusions.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 15:11 utc | 114
Unfortunately for the Trumpists, the TDS peoples’s heads did not explode. Instead, in 2020 they voted in record numbers and it was the heads of the Trumpists that exploded with wild theories about fake voters because they cannot comprehend that there possibly can be that many voters who hate Trump.

Posted by: jinn | Sep 2 2024 15:51 utc | 118

TDS people’s heads to explode
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 15:11 utc | 114

The bar is set so low. Trump was better than Hillary but that assessment by itself reveals an embarrassment of insufficiency.
The situation will descend into utter chaos before it improves. I look forward to watching the Americans fight amongst themselves rather than against “shithole countries”.
I’m certain the USA will have a go at Canada and the UK before they turn upon themselves. Schadenfreude awaits.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2024 15:51 utc | 119

CNN reports that US has seized Maduros plane in Dominican Republic.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2024 15:59 utc | 120

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 15:11 utc | 114
thank you very much.
Trump is needed and wanted BECAUSE HE FIGHTS!
he has to have a cast iron will to be able to take the corruption thrown at him from the uniparty. i consider it good luck that the 2020 election was stolen. he has gained new experience and new political allies in those four years and knows a lot more about the traitors he had trusted. i wish him well.

Posted by: frkorz | Sep 2 2024 16:02 utc | 121

Sanctimonious prick Medhi Hassan making a fool of himself…again !
MH
Haughtily delivering a coup de grace [he think !]

What’s population gotta do with it, India has bigger population than China yet a smaller defense budget. ?

LIu

They wish they had the money to spend more. !

Which is true of course
India was top arms importer for many years straight
never mind that millions live in abject poverty
Hassan is a real dumbass, willfully obtuse perhaps.
whether IN per capital, per GDP terms, Chinese defense budget isnt even in top 20 , which are hogged by NATO and its vassals.
Here’s the kicker !
Chinese defense budget is for real,
The barbarians had never left the gates since the days of 8NA
As for NATO’s ‘defense budget’…
What an oxymoron !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MdvbAPJlAc

Posted by: denk | Sep 2 2024 16:03 utc | 122

In the UK the new “Labour” government are in full on “blame the previous government to hide our true neoliberal direction” as they both cut pensioners winter fuel subsidies (hitting 10 million pensioners) and now are raising energy prices by 10% (that’s after the huge increases due to the anti-Russia sanctions).
This could be easily solved by changing the pricing methodology that was invalidated with the Russia sanctions which reduced gas supply by policy. At the least, gas should have been treated separately to all other sources. But instead, they keep shovelling profits to the privatized providers. I explained how the system and pricing of European and UK energy had been set up to facilitate profiteering here, A European Energy Market Designed For Supply Disruption Profiteering And General Chaos, it still hasn’t been changed.
Oh, and of course no shortage of money for Ukraine and the military. And they want to restrict Russian gas exports even more …

Posted by: Roger | Sep 2 2024 16:13 utc | 123

jinn @118
Yep, perfectly normal for the vote count to stop at 10:00PM when most of the poll volunteers go home and then pick up again later with all subsequent votes going to the US Establishment’s pick. Mexico’s former president Filipe Calderon, another US Establishment pick, will assure you that it is all normal and aboveboard.
Truth is that TDS people’s heads did explode, and with exploded heads they frauded the election.
Note how TDS people invariably redirect to ”voter fraud” when the real issue was election fraud. Every time.
I think Trumpists are surprised by now many people are defined by their hate, though, particularly as those same people are so quick to virtue signal about their compassion and label others as haters.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 16:16 utc | 124

“Strange that some people are having such a hard time understanding this.
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 15:46 utc | 117”

Thanks, but your idea needed no justification. I just wanted to be sure there was no misunderstanding and you were actually believing that almost all Trump fans know it’s only a show.
I tell you: most of the real world is not like what is around yourself.

Posted by: Parisian Guy | Sep 2 2024 16:39 utc | 125

”…most of the real world is not like what is around yourself.”
Great observation! I recommend you keep it in mind.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 16:49 utc | 126

CNN reports that US has seized Maduros plane in Dominican Republic.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2024 15:59 utc | 121
______
You could’ve / should’ve pointed out that Maduro wasn’t on it. In fact, the plane had been holed up there for several months.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 2 2024 16:51 utc | 127

Yep, perfectly normal for the vote count to stop at 10:00PM when most of the poll volunteers go home and then pick up again later with all subsequent votes going to the US Establishment’s pick.
___________________________________
Mr. Gruff reveals he is one of those whose head exploded with wild theories of fake voters.
First of all, the US Establishment’s pick in 2020 was Trump. Why else would they run a feeble-minded old man against him?
Feel free to provide a shred of evidence for your imagined fake voters.

Posted by: jinn | Sep 2 2024 17:15 utc | 128

@128, malenkov, that’s why I said that his plane was confiscated. Not him.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2024 17:34 utc | 129

“…imagined fake voters.”
“…theories of fake voters.”
See? The TDS people cannot help it. They know it was election fraud and not voter fraud, so they have to try to redirect to voter fraud. Every time.
“US Establishment’s pick in 2020 was Trump”
LOL! I had a good laugh from that. Only people with shattered psyches could believe that nonsense.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 17:36 utc | 130

How about Turkey applies to BRICS?

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 2 2024 17:38 utc | 131

Middle East Eye has a posting up with the title
Iraq cracks down on lottery-based suicide sect that has seen dozens of deaths
the quote

Iraq has one of the youngest populations in the world, with about 60 percent under the age of 25.

The youth unemployment rate in Iraq stood at 32.23 percent in 2023, while the clientelist system that has existed since 2003 excludes those without connections in government, political parties or religious institutions.
Mahdi al-Tamimi, Basra chief of the government-funded Iraq High Commission For Human Rights, said it was too simple to blame “intellectually deviant” movements for the suicide rate in Iraq.
“They stem from various factors, including poverty, the social challenges faced by many young people, such as unemployment, and the government’s neglect of their needs, and the absence of a clear strategic plan by successive governments for youth integration, rehabilitation, and addressing their issues,” he told MEE.

Powder keg….

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 2 2024 17:49 utc | 132

They know it was election fraud and not voter fraud
Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 17:36 utc | 131
Its your delusion. Don’t blame others for not understanding how it works.
The establishment benefited enormously from Trump’s first term why would they not want a repeat?
Mr Gruff can’t be bothered with evidence or rational arguments and so he continues with delusional conspiracy theories.
The theories are not even original. Its all just the same evidence free stories you can find on any number of so-called conservative media outlets.

Posted by: jinn | Sep 2 2024 17:57 utc | 133

Posted by: too scents | Sep 2 2024 15:51 utc | 120
Trump didn’t say ‘shithole countries’ but ‘shithouse countries’. It’s an old real estate term for backwards areas without city plumbing (and often no electricity too). In those days, most people had little outhouses or ‘shithouses’ in the gardens. Probably more than half the adult population in the States has never seen one.
As usual, the mainstream press did a lousy job and created a twisted story out of it. Most of the impressions of The Donald most people have who hate him come from an endless stream of slanted stories like this.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2024 18:14 utc | 134

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 2 2024 14:22 utc | 112
alex christophorou of the Duran has a good piece this morning on what such terms mean in Germany’s election coverage, william: “far right, far left; far out!”

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2024 18:31 utc | 135

(3rd attempt much shorter)
Blessed are the poor in vanity (ego/mada), they will inherit the kingdom of god ….
the bible screws everything up all the time because of the endless editing done to it by people who knew so little and so they made it up to suit themselves later. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arishadvargas
the devil used vanity to trick jesus into returning to die on the cross at the end of the 40 night sin the desert story/parable.
Posted by: Fred | Sep 2 2024 8:15 utc | 97
Thanks for persisting, Fred. Sorry you lost your earlier attempts; been there, done that. With respect to the OT Martin Buber does a masterful job retracing the path of Moses through such editing in his work “Moses, the Revelation and the Covenant”, as he also does in “The Prophetic Faith”. Also, for the NT, much scholarship is available on early texts, some having survived in the sands of Egypt, and there is plenty of scholarship for those interested in tracing such matters.
Of course, you can always make up your own clever stuff as well.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2024 18:49 utc | 136

I’m puffing the thread partly because Juliania said we should.
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 2 2024 5:32 utc | 78
Thanks, Wisco!

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2024 18:51 utc | 137

81 million votes
(Say no more)

Posted by: Exile | Sep 2 2024 18:58 utc | 138

Although caveat: Hudson is not an ancient historian. To the non-expert it sounds convincing, especially if you like the rest of his ideas. But it’s a highly tendentious reading of antiquity that attempts to align it with his view of the present. Hudson’s best on the 20th century.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 1 2024 19:27 utc | 37
Thanks for this Patroklos – it has stayed with me through a long of extra stuff I’ve unravelled since my comment to you explaining the problem I have with one small claim Hudson makes concerning the role of Jesus.
Could you explain your historical objections more specifically? What parts of his analysis fall short, or is it just the general focus on economic trends that perhaps don’t give the full picture? I myself would liken Hudson’s foray into the early stages of history to how Biblical scholars dig back into archeology. The purpose is to discover original texts and motivations, so I can see how that interests an economist as well. History is admittedly not his main field of study, but I found his willingness to explore it admirable.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2024 19:04 utc | 139

still asking the question: why does this website exist and why is it not Spam/ddos’d? I only got one reply, which was someone saying “it’s a honeypot” and when I asked them, what did they mean by that they did not respond. It would just be nice to have some context: I found this website where everyone is talking about what global elites are doing and their strategies and they just let us talk about it and they don’t care that information is out there. It supposed to be their own amusement to watch us discuss this? do you guys not understand how easy it would be to take this website down if big brother/elites wanted to? obviously people spam here but it’s not that much. i have my theories about some of the disinfo like when canuck claims the west/ukraine/israel is controlled by “the city of london” its pretty easy to see through that. but is that really the entire point?

Posted by: fart | Sep 2 2024 19:19 utc | 140

Of course, you can always make up your own clever stuff as well.
Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2024 18:49 utc | 137
This sounds a bit catty, so I hasten to say the remark wasn’t meant personally — it was made as I was seeing Buber’s first footnote in his book about Moses:

1. That a scholar of so much importance in his own field as Sigmund Freud could permit himself to issue so unscientific a work, based on groundless hypotheses, as his “Moses and Monotheism”(1939), is regrettable.

Were he still with us, I guess I’d be asking Buber to ‘please explain’ also. Patroklos, you are in good company!
😉

Posted by: juliania | Sep 2 2024 19:21 utc | 141

Refinnejenna@90 Followed the link. The notion that alcoholics and drug addicts or even people suffering major depression (intractable to common antidepressants,) can count as “are spiritually and morally and very often physically crippled.” I’m not seeing this as a clarification to my confusion. That’ is compounded by the added confusion added by “the Kingdom of God.” It seems to me that this Kingdom was envisioned as including for one thing the power of Christ and his Church over the powers of the air, that is, spiritual power held by people who are…poor in spirit?
The comment @90 of course explicitly states “poor in spirit” means “humble,” which is explained as meaning, the properly grateful poor who are resilient. The ability to keep in good spirits though doesn’t seem like “poor in spirit” to me. Presumably the resentful and ungracious and shoplifting poor are excluded. Even when they’re stealing food?
The title of the linked article by the way runs together in one phrase parts of two verses. They are at least consecutive. I’m afraid I didn’t read the whole thing (I’m cooking and this is pre-heating the oven time.) But I don’t get either why Luke is different. How did people reading Luke before the New Testament was collected into a single codex know that Luke’s poor weren’t the poor but the humble? But then I don’t understand why the humble weren’t simply called the humble. The wisecrack that intrudes unwelcomed is, God doesn’t write user-friendly manuals for salvation, that’s impossible even for Him?
juliania@95 rebuts that Luke is to be interpreted as saying the same thing except not needing to use the same words. This seems to me to assume that the New Testament is a coherent unified message and merely literal interpretations are erroneous when contradiction seem to appear. That to me seems to be assuming why needs to be demonstrated. One message I got from the New Testament was, the truth will set you free. Perhaps it will set you free from superstition?
In any event, my Greek is nonexistent, limited to loan words written in the English alphabet. Even more, one common claim is that it is the grace of the Holy Spirit that permits the understanding of Scripture. I openly concede that everyone else in this brief discussion is definitely holier than me. Their interpretations then are authoritative in a way mine cannot be. And my inability to comprehend is conclusive proof of my lack of holiness.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 2 2024 19:27 utc | 142

The “far right” as depicted only seems to have one common feature, which would be some kind of ethno-nationalism.
Obviously, anyone who favours isolationism or less migration or population integrity or anything at all that limits outside influences on a nation can then be pushed into that category.
Equally, the “far right” do not necessarily have any kind of wider project that favours local culture or tradition, or even that establishes religious or a moral hierarchy.
So the term is quite meaningless, and normally is just used to slander any oposition as being somewhat neurotic white thugs.
Unfortunately the “far right” do tend to have ties to “Israel” and ultra-nationalism, but so do the modern “right” as well … and the “left” in some countries… so that’s that all screwed up.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 2 2024 20:04 utc | 143

file this under Outrages of Empire
and Illegal USA Theft of Foreign Property and Assets
“We’re sending a clear message here that no one is above the law…”
lmao
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/02/politics/us-seizes-venezuela-president-maduros-airplane
US seizes Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro’s airplane in the Dominican Republic
The United States has seized Venezuela President Nicolas Maduro’s airplane after determining that its acquisition was in violation of US sanctions, among other criminal issues. The US flew the aircraft to Florida on Monday, according to two US officials.
It’s the latest development in what has long been a frosty relationship between the US and Venezuela, and its seizure in the Dominican Republic marks an escalation as the US continues to investigate what it regards as corrupt practices by Venezuela’s government…..
……“This sends a message all the way up to the top,” one of the US officials told CNN. “Seizing the foreign head of state’s plane is unheard-of for criminal matters. We’re sending a clear message here that no one is above the law, no one is above the reach of US sanctions.”…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2024 21:12 utc | 144

What relationship, if any, is there between Sahra Wagenknecht and the Alfred Wagenknecht who was one of the founders of the Communist Party USA?

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 2 2024 21:42 utc | 145

Sigmund Freud was a charlatan.

Posted by: Lysias | Sep 2 2024 21:47 utc | 146

@ Ornot | Sep 2 2024 20:04 utc | 144
what do you call a party that is opposed to endless wars, or more specifically the war against russia?? is that ”far right”?? i say it is bullshit and the media that are pedaling this bullshit know it is bullshit.. instead they support the nazi far right illegitimate gov’t of ukraine, as does all of nato… so these terms as they are presently used have been turned upside down and mean the exact opposite with the intended purpose of slandering them for wanting peace over war… meanwhile the warmongers in power – sholtz, macron, biden, harris and etc – they are the real ”far right” politicians supporting the expired mandated leader zelensky, in the sale of more weapons for more death..

Posted by: james | Sep 2 2024 22:09 utc | 147

as a reminder
by ‘this man’ Alan M. is referring to Barak Obama…… one of the great war criminals of this century, with the photo of Obama below Alan’s text here at the link.
https://x.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1830073113704612094
Alan MacLeod @AlanRMacLeod
By the end of his tenure, this man was bombing SEVEN countries simultaneously.
Those countries were:
Iraq
Afghanistan
Syria
Pakistan
Yemen
Somalia
Libya

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 2 2024 22:40 utc | 148

I’m not seeing this as a clarification to my confusion. – Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 2 2024 19:27 utc | 143
Your confusion is warranted. The Beatitudes are a direct contradiction to Christianity as it is practiced.
The “poor in spirit” are those who are social outcasts. That means jesus was specifically talking about thieves, prostitutes and any others who were outside the excepted norms. After all humans are social animals and the least among us are made so by the rest of humanity. Or to putn it another way: we are just like crabs in a barrel
Here is Chris Hedges take on the Beatitudes:
“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are they who mourn, for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they shall possess the earth. Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for justice, for they shall be satisfied. Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure of heart, for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons and daughters of God. Blessed are they who suffer persecution for justice sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
Killed as an Insurrectionist
Jesus, if he lived in contemporary society, would be undocumented. He was not a Roman citizen. He lived without rights, under Roman occupation. Jesus was a person of color. The Romans were white. And the Romans, who peddled their own version of white supremacy, nailed people of color to crosses almost as often as we finish them off with lethal injections, gun them down in the streets, lock them up in cages or slaughter them in Gaza.
The Romans killed Jesus as an insurrectionist, a revolutionary. They feared the radicalism of the Christian Gospel. And they were right to fear it. The Roman state saw Jesus the way the American state saw Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. Then, like now, prophets were killed.
The Bible unequivocally condemns the powerful. It is not a self-help manual to become rich. It does not bless America or any other nation. It was written for the powerless…

Over the ages, there has been little difference between the “poor in spirit” and just plain poor. Money is how humans most often measure wealth.

Posted by: jinn | Sep 2 2024 22:50 utc | 149

jinn | Sep 2 2024 22:50 utc | 150
*** The Romans killed Jesus as an insurrectionist, a revolutionary. ***
No they didn’t. They had no inclination to execute or even lock him up at all.
But the political establishment of the Jews persistently demanded his death, and the Roman military authorities — not sufficiently strong in the region to counter major unrest if they didn’t comply — really had no choice.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 2 2024 23:08 utc | 150

Sorry jinn, in post 151 should have included a note that you were quoting Hedges.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 2 2024 23:12 utc | 151

James 22.09
Thanks for that.
I have always considered myself to be of the left but getting increasingly concerned that what appear to be the more admirable parties and politicians in Europe – admittedly on a superficial understanding – are all being labelled “far right”. I need to look deeper in the matter but would welcome more discussion here.
Also I might add that I do not feel comfortable with much of which is supposed to be leftist these days. So are things really upside down or am I becoming a rightist in my old age!

Posted by: Walt | Sep 2 2024 23:52 utc | 152

@148
That’s the strange thing james. I put the current leaders as sold, they have projects of their own that are more important than peace or moderation. I don’t know if they are “far right” or not but they are some kind of disconnected statist/globalist/regionalist mixture that is very corrupt.
The currently labelled “far right” I have trouble with also though. They are simpler themed and more disciplined which is good from my point of view. They tend to at least pay lip service to peace with Russia, which is good also. I personally don’t mind a degree of nationalism and sovereignty, and curbs on subsidised migration also.
The trouble is this though:
I know they are part funded by “Israel” , undoubtedly US also.
I know they are lackey to EU, in fact some seem like controlled opposition.
When it comes to actually acting they often fail – Melony vs Russia and on immigration is a good example. Maybe Liga del Norte is more sincere.
So Wilders is authentic, Le Pen is flexible and probably closest to Russia, in Italy it seems more like a show. Vox in Spain are a different kettle altogether. the leader has authentic complaints, funding is unusual and structure is ‘legal’ as in ‘make’ , which traditional more right find very unsettling. ADF I don’t know enough about.
How they get along with EU and so Ukraine (and so Russia) remains to be seen, but I could not say for sure they would be more interested in peace with Russia now than forming a larger block including Ukraine right – maybe they will look for both.
The point is that in politics you cannot trust anyone really. I could go on, about how placebo parties have been introduced to national crisis (e.g. gfc) that lead nowhere but to dilute tensions, or flash parties are created in otherwise stable duopolies to divide the vote after those have become corrupt, so leading to vacuum or corrupt minority governance etc. etc. etc.
That is what politicians do, it is their job, to influence public perception for whatever end . They tend not to be honest and they tend not to know how to manage a country beyond show and profit.
IMO.
I tend to count myself as apolitical, would be quite at home in countries to the traditional right also, but when the modern right took over where I lived normally (which became a strange concoction socialist right clique foreign influenced) I had to leave , and ended up in a communist region (which I would never have considered) of a traditional society , and just the lack of politics and rejection of strong oversight was a very great relief. Local culture and community, everything much simpler and more real. Some places should be able to resist or escape the current pressures I think, for not being worth bothering about if nothing else.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 3 2024 0:00 utc | 153

Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 1 2024 19:27 utc | 37

Hudson is not an ancient historian. To the non-expert it sounds convincing

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Oh, right. That’s why he spent twenty years working with Harvard’s Peabody Museum, translating ancient Mesopotamian texts and breaking new ground in historical research.
Where do you get that he is not an ancient historian?

Posted by: john brewster | Sep 3 2024 0:18 utc | 154

https://notrickszone.com/2024/09/02/new-study-human-emissions-irrelevant-in-determining-changes-in-atmospheric-co2-since-1959/

New Study: Human Emissions ‘Irrelevant’ In Determining Changes In Atmospheric CO2 Since 1959
By Kenneth Richard on 2. September 2024

“The main factor governing the annual increase in atmospheric CO2 concentration is the SST [sea surface temperature] rather than human emissions.” – Ato, 2024
Another day, another new scientific paper has been published reporting efforts to curb anthropogenic CO2 emissions are “meaningless.”
In this study multiple linear regression analysis was performed comparing SST versus anthropogenic CO2 emissions as explanatory factors and the annual changes in atmospheric CO2 as the objective variable over the period 1959-2022.
The model using the SSTs (NASA, NOAA, UAH) best explained the annual CO2 change (regression coefficient B = 2.406, P = <0.0002), whereas human emissions were not shown to be an explanatory factor at all in annual CO2 changes (regression coefficient B = 0.0027, P = 0.863).
Most impressively, the predicted atmospheric CO2 concentration using the regression equation derived from 1960-2022 SSTs had an extremely high correlation coefficient of r = 0.9995.
Thus, not only is the paradigm that says humans drive atmospheric CO2 changes wrong, but “the theory that global warming and climate change are caused by human-emitted CO2 is also wrong.”
“SST has been the determinant of the annual changes in atmospheric CO2 concentrations and […] anthropogenic emissions have been irrelevant in this process, by head-to-head comparison.”

PS. I don’t post/share these in order to provoke arguments, though I know that some get riled up. It’s because the global warming issue is not only widely held but at the forefront of many globalist policies, including Declarations coming out of WEF and BRICS conferences, despite these two blocs’ seeming conflict on other fronts. Since it is pushed as a science-based theory, science-based dissent might be persuasive to some and help them consider the good news: the climate is not heading to catastrophe because of CO2 emissions etc.
Of course, this doesn’t mean that the world isn’t headed towards human catastrophe of all sorts, namely plague, famine and war. We should work harder to eliminate corruption in our selves and our societies rather than worrying about high-falutin problems which only experts seemingly can perceive. It’s a classic bait and switch deliberately distracting humanity from knocking the current corrupt crop of international Robber Barons off their perch.
Thus far, it’s been working really, really well.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 0:52 utc | 155

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 2 2024 19:27 utc | 143
If I wasn’t clear enough, steven, Luke says “Blessed are the poor.” That is how he understands Matthew. I will take his word for it. “Blessed, (in spirit,) are the poor.” My interpretation, not to deny others their own. I would say, there is room for all.
It’s a welcoming, positive, inclusive statement which Jesus is passing on to his disciples as a teaching. As too it is a teaching that in the Orthodox liturgy the Beatitudes, chanted every Sunday morning, are immediately preceded by the phrase “In Thy Kingdom, remember us, O Lord, when Thou comest into Thy Kingdom”. Which is what the good thief next to Christ on Golgotha asks of him, and is told “Today you will be with me in Paradise!” The Orthodox remember, they are taught to remember, that the poor come first, whatever else they may have done.

Posted by: juliania | Sep 3 2024 1:08 utc | 156

ZH has a posting up with the title of
RFK Jr: There Has To Be “A Reckoning” For “Immoral, Homicidal” COVID Criminality
the quote

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has said that individuals who engaged in “criminal” behaviour during the pandemic still need to be held accountable.
Kennedy, who is in line for a health related position in Donald Trump’s administration should he be elected, declared recently that there needs to be a “reckoning” brought upon those responsible.
Speaking at the Limitless Expo, Kennedy explicitly referenced Anthony Fauci, noting “I wrote a book about Fauci. It’s a great book. There are 2,200 footnotes in the book… I invited people to find problems with the book… And nobody ever told us any factual error in that book.”
He charged that Fauci and others used their positions during COVID to enforce “totalitarian controls that were not science-based.”
“It’s a story, really, of people involved in really terrible, immoral, homicidal criminal behavior,” Kennedy urged.

“There were cures for COVID from day one, very effective cures. But they didn’t want that. They wanted the vaccine only,” Kennedy posited, adding “if they admitted that any of [the treatments] were effective, the whole vaccine project would have fallen apart.”

That is Ivermectin that RFK Jr. is referring to.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 3 2024 1:25 utc | 157

Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 0:52 utc | 156
Religious cults like Scientology and offbeat Buddhist gurus were created for really gullible people with bad judgment and a distinct lack of knowledge and expertise. Such as yourself. Am I allowed to suggest that Kenneth is a know nothing blow hard idiot?
Nevertheless please do enjoy your self-righteous indignation. Please, feel free to keep felling super good about yourself and your superior wisdom. It’s very healthy to be positive.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 1:26 utc | 158

Sigmund Freud was a charlatan.
Posted by: Lysias | Sep 2 2024 21:47 utc | 147
And his mother was a hamster!

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 1:32 utc | 159

>>
i have my theories about some of the disinfo like when canuck claims the west/ukraine/israel is controlled by “the city of london” its pretty easy to see through that.
but is that really the entire point?
Posted by: fart | Sep 2 2024 19:19 utc | 141
I’m beginning to think, yes it is. That is the entire point. Think imagine believe say whatever conjecture and theory you want, no limits, no evidence, no logic required.
ps Mr Fart – it is common not to get replies here.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 1:40 utc | 160

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 2 2024 19:27 utc | 143
I will add that I appreciated your post very much, steven; thank you. Here’s how Luke begins his gospel, as my Greek interlinear volume translates it:

Since many have undertaken to set down an orderly account of the events that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed on to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word, I too decided, after investigating everything carefully from the very first, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the truth concerning the things about which you have been instructed.
[The translators are Robert Brown and Philip W. Comfort.]

Posted by: juliania | Sep 3 2024 1:41 utc | 161

“far right” Hmmm. Labels, labels. Tell me a label that accurately defines and show true meaning of a grouping. Far to me sounds like they have strayed away from something (center?)
I learned a new German word today – heimscheisser. Means someone who is unable to poop outside of the comforts of their own home – literally ‘home-s**tter.’
Perhaps far means far from home?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Sep 3 2024 1:43 utc | 162

and the Roman military authorities — not sufficiently strong in the region to counter major unrest if they didn’t comply — really had no choice.
Posted by: Cynic | Sep 2 2024 23:08 utc | 151
Haven’t we seen that lately in the palestine thread?
At the time they didn’t ask for much, one here, one there… now its by the cartloads and “rome” just whistles (or sends more bombs if they run out)

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 3 2024 1:46 utc | 163

Fred 1.26
That reference does not appear to be a peer reviewed journal so really not worth spending time on.

Posted by: Walt | Sep 3 2024 2:38 utc | 164

@ Walt | Sep 2 2024 23:52 utc | 153
you can’t trust the mainstream media today.. i am thinking of outlets like bbc, or cbc for example.. they will tell us something is far right when they are opposed to the wars in ukraine or israel.. if you live in germany, you probably aren’t allowed to say anything negative about israel as it would be illegal – anti-semite… that is part of the bullshit i am talking about… words are supposed to mean something but in george orwells 1984 they mean something completely different.. so here we are in 2024 and both his book and aldous huxleys brave new world are appearing increasingly prophetic.. thanks for your post..
@ Ornot | Sep 3 2024 0:00 utc | 154
thanks ornot.. you have a deeper perspective on euro politics and perhaps you are right about usa-israel money being pushed into all sorts of political parties for all the wrong reasons.. i can’t comment on that, but i believe you are probably right… clearly israel money is heavily involved in the usa 2024 race with both parties wanting to appear the most subservient to israel, so i can see how it would be much the same with any fringe type party in europe… but still, the european people don’t appear as easily fooled as some let on.. i just have a problem with people naming and labeling things wrongly and that is what i think is happening here… and worse – i think it is intentional…
@ Fred | Sep 3 2024 1:40 utc | 161
you’re speaking bullshit… same deal the fart poster… as for canucks comment, it has a lot of merit.. here is something to get you and mr. fart started.. The Spider’s Web: Britain’s Second Empire | Documentary Film not that either of you are interested…making snide and stupid remarks seems more your style..

Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 2:47 utc | 165

i asked before – is it the same ”fred” that graced pat langs site?? it looks like it..

Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 2:50 utc | 166

Trump didn’t say ‘shithole countries’ but ‘shithouse countries’.
As usual, the mainstream press did a lousy job and created a twisted story out of it. Most of the impressions of The Donald most people have who hate him come from an endless stream of slanted stories like this.
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 2 2024 18:14 utc | 135
———————
Oops,a bona fide Trump fan boz !
Shithole or shithouse…as if it had nuthin to do with the world’s no 1 shit stirrer ?
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_58508.shtml

Posted by: denk | Sep 3 2024 3:00 utc | 167

fyi
BRICS Update: Saudi Sign a $50 Billion Deal with CHINA: What’s Next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PjesMs6xaQ [12 mins]

Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 3 2024 3:12 utc | 168

A somewhat nuanced interview with Eric Weinstein, a generally left-leaning Democrat Jewish American intellectual who has been ‘kicking against the pricks’ of late explaining why populists like Trump are a threat to the ‘rules-based order’ and why there are both good and bad reasons for their discomfiture. One of which, for example, is that institutions make international agreements and they cannot have them jeopardized by a populist coming and ripping them all up.
Anyway, a sober, adult contemplation of the issue without partisan froth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYRYXhU4kxM
He wonders out loud if They will allow him (now with Bobby, another populist as were his father and uncle) back in the WH.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 3:14 utc | 169

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 1:26 utc | 159
Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 0:52 utc | 156
Religious cults like Scientology and offbeat Buddhist gurus were created for really gullible people with bad judgment and a distinct lack of knowledge and expertise. Such as yourself. Am I allowed to suggest that Kenneth is a know nothing blow hard idiot?

Of course you can; but like your comments about gurus etc., you don’t provide any specifics nor, therefore, make an interesting point. Just shallow, emotive verbiage.
Whatever turns you on.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 3:17 utc | 170

Posted by: Walt | Sep 3 2024 2:38 utc | 165
Fred 1.26
That reference does not appear to be a peer reviewed journal so really not worth spending time on.

a) peer review ain’t all it’s cracked up to be any more (or didn’t you get that memo?).
b) the paper is extensively footnoted with references. Of course I didn’t track them all down, I don’t understand such level of detail anyway. https://scienceofclimatechange.org/wp-content/uploads/SCC-Ato-Multivariate-Analysis-Vol.4.2.pdf
But as you yourself have admitted, neither do you. You said you depend upon others to form your opinion, going with the ‘scientific consensus’.
I find that a little feeble, frankly, not to mention naive.
Seeing how you judge from on high, as you do, as to whether or not someone is sufficiently credentialed or a paper has been properly peer-reviewed by fellow professional prostitutes, I marvel at your confident arrogance passing judgment on a subject matter you freely admit you know very little about.
To each his own.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 3:32 utc | 171

US seizes Maduro’s plane – CNN
The jet was allegedly used by the Venezuelan president and violated sanctions Washington has imposed on the country According to CNN, the plane is worth around $13 million and was seized in cooperation with Dominican authorities.
If the US can do that and worse – then Russia and China should together seize one of Americas aircraft carries in the ME for supporting Genocide. I wish they had the balls.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 3:33 utc | 172

That Weinstein interview linked above is 3 hours long! I listened to the first section, which the publisher thankfully has made easy to discern with labels on the red bar, and then skipped to near the end to a section entitled ‘the internet is destroying the sacred’. This Weinstein fellow, along with being very bright, is a real mensch.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 3:39 utc | 173

Standing in front of a full length Mirror, dear Scorpion looks himself in the eye and declares:
Seeing how you judge from on high, as you do, as to whether or not someone is sufficiently credentialed or a paper has been properly peer-reviewed by fellow professional prostitutes, I marvel at your confident arrogance passing judgment on a subject matter you freely admit you know very little about.
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 3:32 utc | 172
and ” you don’t provide any specifics ”
No need to when things are this obvious, and you would not even listen to the ‘specifics’ anyway. You already know everything and have made your judgments despite complete ignorance of the subject matter – both cults and climate issues. There, that was a ‘specific’. Deny it all you wish. I do not need to prove anything within evidence free discussions and wild unfounded claims.
To each his own.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 3:41 utc | 174

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 3:32 utc | 172
Straw man.
Unlike you I do not hold opinions on things I know nothing about.
I could write a paper dismissing global warming theory and cite lots of similarly worthless tripe.
It would similarly not be worth the paper is printed on.
Science is all about getting eventually to the truth.
But peer review from people who do understand the subject is the only reliable guide.
All else is conjecture and simply not worth wasting time on.
And to say “peer review ain’t all it’s cracked up to be any more ” is the silliest statement I have seen here this year.

Posted by: Walt | Sep 3 2024 3:45 utc | 175

From previous thread/…..
IF Trump-Kennedy win and IF they pursue a bona-fide swamp-draining agenda (unlikely but possible) how can they take their nation to an honest, decent place? Should they kill all the bad guys?
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 1 2024 13:42 utc | 304
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YOur man did waste lots of ‘bad guys’ in MOsul.
Is that also a smear job ?

Posted by: denk | Sep 3 2024 3:49 utc | 176

i asked before – is it the same ”fred” that graced pat langs site?? it looks like it..
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 2:50 utc | 167
Are you 2 years old james? Careful, the sky is falling.
Now, IF this is what you think — “you’re speaking bullshit…” — despite the glaring evidence it’s a fair observation of what happens, here and elsewhere, then fuck you and your bullshit.
If what I said to Mr Fart hurt your delicate feelings then you must believe you are one of the people who think imagine believe say whatever conjecture and theory you want, no limits, no evidence, no logic required.
Are you? Or were you upset that I said people often don’t get replies? Because that is also true. Which was it?
.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 4:02 utc | 177

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 4:02 utc | 178
————–
I dont follow the argument bet you and James.
Whatever it is, James has his heart at the right place.
As For me, I’d save that jibe for the more deserving poop

Posted by: denk | Sep 3 2024 4:17 utc | 178

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu-p15ZbueI
Just realized there are two Weinsteins, Bret and Eric. Bret made the above linked video a few days after Trump’s assassination attempt calling for him and Bobby to unite in order to overthrow the current Uniparty regime. It is a 2 minute appeal, short and pithy. And prescient.
Unfortunately, it looks like Bobby refused Trump’s offer to be VP only to join the ticket a few weeks later. Oh well. But they are teaming up and they say their mission is to overthrow the existing ‘swamp’. We’ll see, but again: this is potentially a very important political development which will effect the entire destiny of the West and, to a lesser extent, the world.
One tool in Their toolbox is to start a major war. We should not be surprised if that happens any day now.

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 4:29 utc | 179

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 3:41 utc | 175
I provided a link to a paper which others can judge as they see fit. I did not judge it from on high myself. Others did without addressing any point, just judgment. Why bother?
So your mirror is distorted and actually is just reflecting back upon yourself.
Unless you have a point to make to further a discussion beyond silly ad hominem, I shall not reply further to your silly posts.
All best, Fred. Have a good life!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 4:32 utc | 180

Haiti: A Victim of Naked Imperialism Printer friendly page Print This
By Ghali Hassan, Axis of Logic
Here’s one smart Hassan.
Here’s Smartass Hassan, interrogating
Victor Gao on ‘UIghur genocide’ !
Smartass Hassan at his ‘best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Vs-paacpkM
Thats all folks !

Posted by: denk | Sep 3 2024 4:41 utc | 181

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 4:02 utc | 178
————–
I dont follow the argument bet you and James.
Whatever it is, James has his heart at the right place.
As For me, I’d save that jibe for the more deserving poop
Posted by: denk | Sep 3 2024 4:17 utc | 179

I agree with each of your statements there denk. At least Walt
and Fred are beginning to realize what a waste it is to
deal with Scorpion.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 3 2024 4:53 utc | 182

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 3 2024 4:53 utc | 183
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Off the loop now.
Be back, hopefully !

Posted by: denk | Sep 3 2024 5:09 utc | 183

Fred | Sep 3 2024 4:02 utc | 178
Piss off troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2024 5:18 utc | 184

Here’s some good advice,”Mind Your Own Business”, Hank Williams.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 3 2024 6:06 utc | 185

Bloomberg laments about VW

VW Weighs First-Ever Germany Plant Closures to Cut Costs
. German automaker heads for showdown with unions over plans
. EV slowdown, jittery Europe consumers weigh on manufacturers

Volkswagen AG is considering unprecedented factory closures in Germany, setting up a showdown with powerful unions as the country’s most important industry fights for its future.
The potential measures also include trying to end the company’s three-decades-old pact with workers to keep jobs secure, the company said Monday. VW’s main target is its underperforming namesake passenger car brand, whose profit margins are getting squeezed amid a sputtering transition to EVs and a consumer spending slowdown.
Any shutdowns would mark the first closures in Germany during the company’s 87-year history.
continues ==> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-09-02/vw-plans-to-close-plants-in-germany-after-cost-cuts-fail-to-deliver

Germany is paying a high price to sustain Ukraine’s War.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 6:08 utc | 186

The NY Times clarifies the politics of Sahra Wagenkneckt

The Woman Shaking Up German Politics From the East
Sahra Wagenknecht, a former Communist …


After a career in Communist and left-wing politics …

She joined the Communist Party at 19 …
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/29/world/europe/germany-politics-wagenknecht.html

Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 6:19 utc | 187

More German politics from the Telegraph

Partnering with Germany’s far-left pro-Putin party could keep AfD out
Christian Democrats rule out coalition with far-Right party but now need populist group BSW to build a stable majority

German parties attempting to block the far-Right AfD from power may have to partner with a Russia-friendly party that blames Nato for the war in Ukraine.
Bündnis Sahra Wagenknecht (BSW), a populist group that combines Left and Right-wing demands including an end to weapons supplies to Ukraine, says it is ready for talks on forming new governments in Saxony and Thuringia.

Commenting on Monday, chancellor Olaf Scholz said: “All democratic parties are now called upon to form stable governments without Right-wing extremists.”

With the centre largely hollowed out, majority coalitions in both Saxony and Thuringia are now only possible with the BSW.
A Left-wing splinter party that emerged at the start of the year, the BSW won 16 per cent of the vote in Thuringia and 12 per cent in Saxony.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/09/02/how-bojrn-hocke-is-preparing-ground-for-extremist-germany/

Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 6:37 utc | 188

Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 6:37 utc | 189
Is this the first time that someone has named a party after themselves?
Bit vain, what?

Posted by: Walt | Sep 3 2024 8:55 utc | 189

Is this the first time
Posted by: Walt | Sep 3 2024 8:55 utc | 190

If it where rare there wouldn’t be a word for it.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/eponymous

Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 9:53 utc | 190

Fresh pictures of new Chinese airborne electronic assets PLAAF Y-9LG EW-SIGINT platform (30211) and KJ-500 AEW&C (30178)
https://x.com/TheBaseLeg/status/1829428341054771699/photo/1

Posted by: too scents | Sep 3 2024 10:10 utc | 191

Fred | Sep 3 2024 4:02 utc | 178
Piss off troll.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 3 2024 5:18 utc | 185
What a bitter pill. I’ll never recover.
Anyone who chooses the name ‘Fart’ is a dick head wanker.
Any reply to a dick head wanker should be read in that context.
I made no judgment about canuck, have not read any related comments by them nor by james
The jury is still out on james being a dick head wanker too, but it’s not looking good.
I said what I said @ Fred | Sep 3 2024 1:40 utc | 161
So what was ‘the entire point’ or have y’all forgotten?
Hardly an earth shattering comment.
Look, it’s easy, Opinions are like arseholes. We all have at least one.
I’m not fussed if you have more. The more the merrier.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 13:35 utc | 192

Posted by: Walt | Sep 3 2024 3:45 utc | 176
And to say “peer review ain’t all it’s cracked up to be any more ” is the silliest statement I have seen here this year.

Sincerely, you need to do more research and perhaps not trust the Authorities so much.
Once again, you don’t really make a point, just insult. As it happens, I don’t buy everything in the paper I linked and could easily have challenged a few points therein, but it is an example of reasonable argument against the dominant narrative/thesis.
Furthermore, peer review in climate science is one of the least reliable guarantors of reliability, however, because the field is highly corrupted on all sides, though generally the cynics have far less support and endure far more scorn, especially from group thinkers, so one has to wonder what motivates them if not the pursuit of truth. Am generally loth to call other people dishonourable, as many here do quite freely, if for no other reason than doing so diminishes us all.
In any case, especially in the medical field, it is my impression that peer review is grossly abused, moreover this is now the norm not the exception. Indeed, the entire discipline of science is being undermined by the widespread corruption that inevitably follows when so much of it is driven by profit.
Some say Russia and China are charting a different course, but I find what Gintzburg in Russia did with Covid, in teaming up with AstraZeneca, highly questionable or at the least not substantively different from what transpired throughout the West, which seems to have involved a military-industrial initiative fronted by the CIA who then had vaccines fronted by for-profit corporations of course owned by all the corporate-bankster usual suspects) who were then enabled by Emergency Use authorization – conveniently ignoring / denying HCQ and Ivermectin which demonstrated remarkable efficacy in both preventing and curing infection – all bundled up into the catchy label ‘Warp Speed’, for which to this day Trump takes credit making him either a fool or a liar – most likely both – at least on that issue. He probably has too much respect for Experts, so surrendered his own constitutionally mandated authority to Science. Big mistake. Impeachment-worthy IMO.
Perhaps you might reconsider trusting the Authorities so much. Meanwhile, a quick search on ‘are peer reviews corrupt’ yielded many results including the following which I offer because it features statements about this topic by a Nobel Prize Winning Scientist, so presumably an Authority you might give the time of day to:

https://retractionwatch.com/2014/03/03/nobel-prize-winner-calls-peer-review-very-distorted-completely-corrupt-and-simply-a-regression-to-the-mean/
Nobel Prize winner calls peer review “very distorted,” “completely corrupt,” and “simply a regression to the mean”
Sydney Brenner has been talking about what’s wrong with the scientific enterprise since long before he shared the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 2002.
And in a new interview, Brenner doesn’t hold back, saying that publishers hire “a lot of failed scientists, editors who are just like the people at Homeland Security, little power grabbers in their own sphere.”
In a King’s Review Q&A titled “How Academia and Publishing Are Destroying Scientific Innovation,” Brenner says:
And of course all the academics say we’ve got to have peer review. But I don’t believe in peer review because I think it’s very distorted and as I’ve said, it’s simply a regression to the mean.
I think peer review is hindering science. In fact, I think it has become a completely corrupt system. It’s corrupt in many ways, in that scientists and academics have handed over to the editors of these journals the ability to make judgment on science and scientists.

It appears the full interview was published on an obscure, alternative blog that no longer exists (Kings Review).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Brenner Sydney seems like the real deal, though you never know…
And there are several more recent articles flying around including many clearly designed to mislead and distract, par for the course these days.
So that’s several posts between us and not a single one discussing what was offered in the short paper I linked. Not very helpful. Again, I raise the topic only because both BRICS and WEF and UN are aligned on the Agenda 2030, Sustainability etc., including China where you live. They have all bought into this narrative. And the Science simply isn’t there!

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 13:43 utc | 193

Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 13:43 utc | 194
Sorry, I take back what I said.
This is the most stupid statement I have seen all year and I don’t care if a Nobel winner said it, it can only mean he has an axe to grind.

I think peer review is hindering science. In fact, I think it has become a completely corrupt system. It’s corrupt in many ways, in that scientists and academics have handed over to the editors of these journals the ability to make judgment on science and scientists.

They have not and do not. The editor seeks advice from other expert scientists working in the field as to the merit of a piece of work. If the editor made the judgement himself then it would not be peer review, would it? And who else’s opinion are you going to seek beyond people who actually know what they are talking about?
We are going around in circles. I think I’ll leave off here and take waynorinorway’s advice.

Posted by: Walt | Sep 3 2024 14:02 utc | 194

I provided a link to a paper which others can judge as they see fit. I did not judge it from on high myself. Others did without addressing any point, just judgment. Why bother?
So your mirror is distorted and actually is just reflecting back upon yourself.
Unless you have a point to make to further a discussion beyond silly ad hominem, I shall not reply further to your silly posts.
All best, Fred. Have a good life!
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 4:32 utc | 181

It’s kind of enjoyable watching you trying to lie to yourself and everyone else. It’s like dance.
So I pointed this out – refs to you as much to anyone else.

Seeing how you judge from on high, as you do, as to whether or not someone is sufficiently credentialed or a paper has been properly peer-reviewed by fellow professional prostitutes, I marvel at your confident arrogance passing judgment on a subject matter you freely admit you know very little about.
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 3:32 utc | 172

which goes back to this and what you said when posting the “paper reference”
I asked – Am I allowed to suggest that Kenneth is a know nothing blow hard idiot?
I also said Freud’s mother was a hamster.
Anyway, you posted the quotes from the non-scientific, non-peer reviewed article. I’m sorry to inform you that that is not science, let alone climate science. It is irrelevant fanciful jibberish masquerading as a ‘science paper’. It is in fact a fraud written and republished by frauds.
and then you said the following things @ Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 0:52 utc | 156 :

It’s because the global warming issue is not only widely held but at the forefront of many globalist policies, including Declarations coming out of WEF and BRICS conferences, despite these two blocs’ seeming conflict on other fronts. Since it is pushed as a science-based theory, science-based dissent might be persuasive to some and help them consider the good news: the climate is not heading to catastrophe because of CO2 emissions etc.
Of course, this doesn’t mean that the world isn’t headed towards human catastrophe of all sorts, namely plague, famine and war. We should work harder to eliminate corruption in our selves and our societies rather than worrying about high-falutin problems which only experts seemingly can perceive. It’s a classic bait and switch deliberately distracting humanity from knocking the current corrupt crop of international Robber Barons off their perch.
Thus far, it’s been working really, really well.

So says Baron Bras D’Or Must have been a pun, yeah? (smile)
I judged it seriously wanting. You judge it as “science-based dissent” which it is not. You did so “without addressing any point, just judgment.” Ooops.
It was not my mirror Ashley. Funny how you copy what others says and repeat it back to them as if it has some profound grandiose meaning for others. Original thoughts can be hard to come. As is original scientific research.
My life is fine and in good order my dear Baron. And all anyone has to offer are “silly points” to your good self. When confronted with the bs they are telling fraudsters generally run away. Maybe I’ll email Dai Ato directly and have a bit of fun.
about>>
“SST has been the determinant of the annual changes in atmospheric CO2 concentrations and […] anthropogenic emissions have been irrelevant in this process, by head-to-head comparison.”
Whacko horse shit Ashley. Bunkem. Lunacy. Fraudulent. Unscientific Swill.
Have a lovely day. I hope something really nice happens to you today. You need it.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 14:12 utc | 195

Walt | Sep 3 2024 14:02 utc | 195
fwiw many have concerns over peer review these days. It’s not as good as it used to be. the system seems somewhat fraught, some fields are worse than others. There are not enough reviewers willing, especially good ones with the right qualifications and experience. These are things I have heard from people involved. and there is a lot not to like about the output of climate scientists and the politicizing and ‘bullying’ of the field amid different cohorts. There’s a lot not to like about it and I’m fed up with their incompetence and inability to convey a sane rational open credible message to the public about the reality. They spend most of their time trying to minimize how bad it is, and wasting their time on irrelevancies and minutia.
Worst of all they (most of them) have no idea how the world (and energy use) actually works. And never will.
(long story not worth telling – but imo the field is totally fucked now and a waste of time – as is the ipcc and the idiotic COP meetings and agreements. Useless. They’ve lost any chance of making a difference)
But this stupid nasty ‘paper’ offered by scorpion is a joke. He does not have any idea what it is. Same as he has no idea what the basis is for global heating or why it’s seriously dangerous already and rapidly about to get far worse – now into the next 10-15 years. No point even trying to help others understand anymore. Let them eat cake!

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 14:40 utc | 196

And the Science simply isn’t there!
Posted by: Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 13:43 utc | 194
Only for the record: You are an incompetent unqualified scientific illiterate fool telling Lies.
But have a nice day.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 14:45 utc | 197

@ Fred | Sep 3 2024 4:02 utc | 178
it’s no surprise some folks don’t bother responding to you..

Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 14:48 utc | 198

As it happens, I don’t buy everything in the paper I linked and could easily have challenged a few points therein,
Scorpion | Sep 3 2024 13:43 utc | 194
Please do share. What don’t you buy, and disagree with. What points do you challenge. Tell us.
Me I challenge the basis of what it claims to be evaluating ‘studying’ .
“This result indicates that atmospheric CO₂ has fluctuated as natural phenomenon, regardless of human activity”
No one in climate science disputes this. Never have. It’s a nothing burger false claim.
the title is fundamentally flawed and is not scientific: “Multivariate Analysis Rejects the Theory of Human-caused Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Increase: The Sea Surface Temperature Rules”
The data, logic and math, tables graphs and the commentary does NOT “demonstrate that SST has been the determinant of the annual changes in atmospheric CO₂ concentrations and that anthropogenic emissions have been irrelevant in this process”
Sorry. No cigar. Imagine, pro-climate actors hate me even more when I tell them voting Harris and the Dems is a waste of time fantasy which will solve improve nothing at all.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 15:03 utc | 199

@ Fred | Sep 3 2024 4:02 utc | 178
it’s no surprise some folks don’t bother responding to you..
Posted by: james | Sep 3 2024 14:48 utc | 199
Piss Off Troll.
Go tell your mummy.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 3 2024 15:05 utc | 200