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September 26, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-230
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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🇺🇲🇱🇧 Netanyahu’s office denied emerging reports about negotiations on a truce with Hezbollah. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 26 2024 11:08 utc | 1 RE: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 26 2024 11:08 utc | 1 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 26 2024 11:51 utc | 2 Just in: Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 26 2024 12:04 utc | 4 UK/US invade Cyprus. UK Cyprus Airbase to be used to bomb/supply war against Lebanon for Israel??. Posted by: cy Press | Sep 26 2024 12:10 utc | 5 Trust the news Posted by: librul | Sep 26 2024 12:11 utc | 6 Been trying to find archives of the front page of Reuters. Posted by: librul | Sep 26 2024 12:21 utc | 7 Biden is a lame duck POTUS. He no torque left, and is basically a senile, left over, has been. Obama the Kenyan is running the show now. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 26 2024 12:39 utc | 8 Various numbers.. Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 26 2024 13:03 utc | 9 Extremimly large explosion reported in the center of Baroute. Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 26 2024 13:23 utc | 10 In the same line of what I asked in the ukraine thread, could bibi be pressuring the us to join the operation or risk having a war, or even worse a defeat, going into elections? Posted by: Newbie | Sep 26 2024 13:33 utc | 12 They lie to us every single day of our lives and shape history however they want. But if it’s in a history book written by saints before any of us were born, so it must be the gods honest truth. 6 million on the dot, not a single person less or more. There is no point discussing it, just burn the heretics who question it. Posted by: Turk 152 | Sep 26 2024 13:38 utc | 13 The ceasefire proposal by ‘international community’ seems like a bad joke, and heavily in favour of “Israel” and its narrative. Posted by: Ornot | Sep 26 2024 13:49 utc | 14 This is what Russia has to say about the war Israel started against Lebanon: Posted by: JB | Sep 26 2024 13:53 utc | 15 What they’re really calling for – is time, time, to deploy our weapons and troops on Lebanon’s Southern border – so the invasion of Lebanon can go smoothly – why would these countries that supports Israel – and the vile Neo-Nazi regime running Ukraine -suddenly feel the need to get together – and call for a ceasefire – if it wasn’t in the interests of Israel, afterall its nearly a year (Oct 7th), since the Zionists began their genocide – and these countries didn’t get together at the start of the genocide to call for a ceasefire, so why now? Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 26 2024 14:07 utc | 16 Just repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | Sep 26 2024 14:17 utc | 17 @19 Dun Posted by: Ornot | Sep 26 2024 14:23 utc | 18 Iran should just announce it is pulling out of BRICS unless it’s allies send in ground troops. Posted by: Geopolitics | Sep 26 2024 14:46 utc | 19 Russia, China, and Turkey and anyone else up for it should just invade. Push them out of Palestine and Lebanon. Posted by: Geopolitics | Sep 26 2024 14:52 utc | 20 JB | Sep 26 2024 13:53 utc | 17 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 14:55 utc | 21 “Iran should just announce it is pulling out of BRICS unless it’s allies send in ground troops.” Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 15:01 utc | 22 Americans are a bunch of pussies. Hitler would have beaten them if it wasn’t for Russia. Posted by: Geopolitics | Sep 26 2024 15:02 utc | 23 You would think someone that names themselves Geopolitics would know that BRICS is not a military alliance. Posted by: Geopolitics | Sep 26 2024 15:12 utc | 24 “We call for an immediate 21-day ceasefire across the Lebanon-Israel border to provide space for diplomacy,” added the statement signed by Australia, Canada, the European Union, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, the UK, the US and Qatar.” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2024 15:17 utc | 25 THe Zionists are trying to depopulate the indiginous populations of the Middle East and expand their colony. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 26 2024 15:19 utc | 26 By the way, if you want to be informed about Israeli attacks and actions, as announced by Israel, just read TASS. They regularly carry Israel’s announcements as if they are true. Not so from the other side. Posted by: Newbie | Sep 26 2024 15:20 utc | 27 It is like having a vicious dog that you say no to when he bites in public but you still walk him to the park unmuzzled hourly and feed him fine fillet steak when he gets home. Posted by: Newbie | Sep 26 2024 15:22 utc | 28 That’s all China and Russia care about as they watch the partners they need die. Posted by: EoinW | Sep 26 2024 15:25 utc | 29 Putin and Xi Jinping and Erodogan are weak and they have soggy bottoms. Posted by: Geopolitics | Sep 26 2024 15:29 utc | 30 @ Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 15:01 utc | 27 Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 26 2024 15:30 utc | 31 That’s the difference between BRIC leaders and western leaders. The former have a conscience and a soul. Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 15:34 utc | 32 That’s the difference between BRIC leaders and western leaders. The former have a conscience and a soul. Posted by: Geopolitics | Sep 26 2024 15:37 utc | 33 Biden is Bibi’s Bitch. Period. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 26 2024 15:44 utc | 34 Sorry to bust up people’s hopium trade in BRICS, but it’s a creation of the City of London. Posted by: EoinW | Sep 26 2024 15:54 utc | 35 Newbie @32, Don’t wok your dog in the park. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 26 2024 16:10 utc | 36 But from that to a “true friend in Russia” … I wouldn’t go as far (not even close) Posted by: JB | Sep 26 2024 16:14 utc | 37 I saw the news of The West whining to get a 21 day ceasefire moratorium to talk. I replied in the previous Criminal Blinken Lied to Congress topic. But I think it is important enough to put it in this fresh topic. Reason: Hezbollah & Ansar Allah already put the power to end this Resistance in Israel’s hands, “Stop the Henocide on Gaza.” It doesn’t get more clear and generous than that; calm down and this all ends. But can Israel accept even that accountability? Posted by: titmouse | Sep 26 2024 16:18 utc | 38 Actually no need of big push from Russia, China, Iran and the rest. Posted by: Mario | Sep 26 2024 16:25 utc | 39 Meanwhile let the sock muppets carry on – haven’t seen the usual suspects spouting the same crap script around here for a week or so. 🤡 Posted by: Newbie | Sep 26 2024 16:30 utc | 40 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 26 2024 11:08 utc | 1
As long as there are sausages still in Gaza and over 60K sausages that cannot live in their stolen homes in the north, the smiling-Jew PM cannot consider any truce. Please, don’t forget the sausages. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 26 2024 16:33 utc | 41 My replies to EoinW got deleted? Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 16:34 utc | 42 As annoying as Escobar (and its entourage of Hasbarites), to me it remains hard not to see that Israel and the US have the upper hand here. Short of the economic collapse of the USA, there’s nothing NOTHING to stop this Israeli onslaught. They seem to have breached the security apparatus of their opponents, which is a huge blow, and even though I sometimes imbibe from the hopium I hear here on this page, seriously, what stops the Israelis short of economic collapse? The guns and money keep coming in. If ‘they’ can arrange it there may even a causus belli manufactured to get American troops to fight for them. The Chinese and Russians just need to stand back and watch the whole shitshow unfold, do nothing in the hopes that the Westerners make a tactical error somewhere along the way. Posted by: CrazyTrain | Sep 26 2024 16:35 utc | 43 The now rejected France/US ceasefire plan re-envisioned implementation of UNSC 1701, at least as it refers to Hezbollah, in line with the US negotiating position for the past year. Israel probably rejected it because the proposed 21-day period would be followed by poorer weather conditions hindering military aircraft. Posted by: jayc | Sep 26 2024 16:38 utc | 44 to me it remains hard not to see that Israel and the US have the upper hand here. Posted by: laguerre | Sep 26 2024 16:46 utc | 45 Because I think it is important I’m posting this (slightly edited, nothing substantial) comment again from the end of the last thread (on page 6 ie. after 600+ comments) concerning the Middle East/West Asia/etc.
I think everyone in the world should know this information and much more!
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 26 2024 16:47 utc | 46 … a government that has abandoned all connection to the people it supposedly serves. Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 26 2024 16:52 utc | 47 Posted by: jayc | Sep 26 2024 16:38 utc | 48 Posted by: laguerre | Sep 26 2024 16:53 utc | 48 Putin and Xi Jinping and Erodogan are weak and they have soggy bottoms. Posted by: Turk 152 | Sep 26 2024 16:53 utc | 49 RE: Posted by: CrazyTrain | Sep 26 2024 16:35 utc | 47 Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 26 2024 16:53 utc | 50 Re: 1701 ? Posted by: Exile | Sep 26 2024 16:57 utc | 51 ” Two shipments of Brazilian crude oil totaling 260,000 tons have been delivered to Israel since the start of Israel’s invasion of Gaza. One arrived in December 2023, and the other in February 2024. This crude was supplied from offshore fields co-owned by Shell and TotalEnergies together with Brazil’s Petrobras. As a significant oil supplier to Israel, Brazilian President Lula, who has been highly critical of Israel, has the opportunity to help bring about a ceasefire by pursuing an oil embargo.” Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 16:59 utc | 52 Israel said on Thursday (26 Sept, ’24) it has secured an $8.7bn aid package from the US to support its military. Posted by: teri | Sep 26 2024 17:02 utc | 53 Exile | Sep 26 2024 16:57 utc | 55 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 17:04 utc | 54 Very informative, from the always excellent professor Joseph Massad: Posted by: JB | Sep 26 2024 17:07 utc | 55 more and more zionist settlers are being displaced in the northern areas as israel continues its attacks on Lebanon, including more targeted assassinations in Beirut Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 26 2024 17:08 utc | 56 ….. Didn’t the US just give Israel $20 billion a month ago? ……. Posted by: Exile | Sep 26 2024 17:09 utc | 57 that’s some massive de-escalation! Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 26 2024 17:33 utc | 58 I think the key is not that Biden is a zionist, though he appears to be one, but that Mossad likely has hugely criminal compromat on him and his family. Self-protection for him as much as for Netanyahu. Posted by: Pearce Tournier | Sep 26 2024 17:41 utc | 59 “When someone, of “authority” states something as being a basic fact, especially when it goes against the narrative(that BRICS isn’t a western creation) I tend to give it more weight. Original source, founding member, first letter in the name says it is a Goldman Sachs creation, by the person who is the British Commercial Secretary to the Treasury.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 26 2024 17:44 utc | 60
I think you are seriously underestimating the fanatical prophetical religiosity involved here. These ‘people’ need certain things to happen in order for their ‘end times’ fantasies to manifest. Posted by: RP | Sep 26 2024 18:03 utc | 61 Divide and Conquer ? Posted by: Exile | Sep 26 2024 18:15 utc | 62 – One of the Hamas officials in Lebanon, Mustafa Hamdan, gave a brief interview to almayadeen.net which he said “For the first time in the history of the Palestinian cause, we are witnessing such resilience in the face of aggression, with this level of strength and ferocity.” Posted by: JB | Sep 26 2024 19:20 utc | 63 The Cradle has a new posting from Pepe Escobar with the title
It is a good read and it will be interesting to see what happens between now and when the BRICS+ meets in late October Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 26 2024 19:28 utc | 64 Ship tracker shows very light traffic to/from Haifa Posted by: Exile | Sep 26 2024 19:34 utc | 65 Live from NY. Demonstration calling for the arrest of Netanyahu Posted by: Minaa | Sep 26 2024 19:37 utc | 66 Norway is like Spain and Ireland not in the genocidal camp. Posted by: Minaa | Sep 26 2024 19:57 utc | 67 Posted by: JB | Sep 26 2024 16:14 utc | 41 Posted by: sarz | Sep 26 2024 20:02 utc | 68 Iran should just announce it is pulling out of BRICS unless it’s allies send in ground troops. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 26 2024 20:16 utc | 69 sarz 73 Posted by: Giyane | Sep 26 2024 20:49 utc | 70 Jill Stein’s and Butch Ware’s response on Sabby Sabs of Revolutionary Blackout Network show, response to Jill’s anti-war proclamation that includes Putin and Assad as ‘war criminals’. Looks like the momentum of 3rd party anti-Israhell -genocide political option to empire in US continues to build. I thought this website was ended. Hopefully the new owners are more friendly to Christians. Posted by: DfromTn | Sep 26 2024 21:04 utc | 72 Lavieja 76. In essence, Jill Stein maintains that US imperialism drives all violations of human rights which may be committed by resistors to that essential violence by the US empire. It’s time for the end of Empire or the end of humanity (and other life on the planet, I add.) 76…Jill Stein/Butch Ware Posted by: furies | Sep 26 2024 21:21 utc | 74 You know the chinese saying “dog that barks, is under-cooked” Posted by: Menz | Sep 26 2024 21:29 utc | 75 See JB 16. Vershinin prioritizing dialogue as only way forward chimes with Stein’s ultimate argument that if you’re going to call people “war criminals” put everybody who violates human rights for whatever reason in that category which essentially eschews all possibility of dialogue. So she ends up taking RU’s position. Ironic. IMO, no hope for dialogue with Israhell, only force will work, which most on IMO have said. Stein WILL WITH Support of PEOPLE STOP THE WEAPONS flow. 3rd party organizes those who support that principle. She also mentions efforts to bring in Labor, referring to Boeing Strike in Seattle, WA. Catalyzer of her movement is Anti-Genocide of Palestinians. Hezbollah has confirmed that their commander has been killed today according to almayadeen.net,: Posted by: JB | Sep 26 2024 21:55 utc | 77 79 furies. Agree. I had been confused about who was Ware, “an academic,” but now I know who he is. He’s got my vote. I’m afraid that the plan all along was the “divide and conquer”. Level Gaza before Lebanon in order to not fight simultaneously on both fronts. The “ceasefire talks” were hot garbage from the very beginning to buy time for Israel. Of course, a ground operation might incur big losses for IL but it also can be a continuous bombardment of South Lebanon by Israel to which Hezbollah does not have an answer. It doesn’t have air defense capabilities. Not a lot of countries have this luxury. Posted by: JamesBond | Sep 26 2024 22:10 utc | 80 OK, so, Iran fires a barrage of missiles at Israel on April 13. Iran’s president dies in a ‘helicopter crash’ on May 21, Iran’s new president ‘elected’ on June 28. On Aug. 3, Haniyeh is assassinated in Tehran. Posted by: RP | Sep 26 2024 22:28 utc | 81 David G Horsman | Sep 26 2024 17:44 utc | 64 Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 22:37 utc | 83 Minaa | Sep 26 2024 19:57 utc | 72 Posted by: Jerr | Sep 26 2024 22:50 utc | 84 @Rhymerez | Sep 26 2024 22:37 utc | 88
It is so easy to put reality on its head. Some ass making an acronym to superficially describe what he sees is now a creator, of BRICS no less. A better source than B is probably b, or bees that sting you out of your idealist stupor. Posted by: SlowDL | Sep 26 2024 22:51 utc | 85 AnsarAllah has once again gotten at least one missile into Tel Aviv. Appears to have been intercepted. The Zionist Entity is of course claiming that it was taken down outside the city, but video shows it right above Posted by: Gengar | Sep 26 2024 22:51 utc | 86 Almost all donors resume funding of Palestinian refugee agency UNRWA — UN chief Posted by: Newbie | Sep 26 2024 22:55 utc | 87 From Aljazeera 30 minutes ago, confirmation of the hit:
This ability to know where they are is depressing. Like I’ve been saying before, it’s hard to see how the Israelis will be compelled to stop any of this. I guess if there is any hope, it would be that the replacement commanders aren’t the traitors…. Posted by: CrazyTrain | Sep 26 2024 23:05 utc | 88 France24 News reports that the photo of the 40,000 fighters in Syria – Golan is a photo of Jordanian army soldiers on parade a couple of months ago. Posted by: SlowDL | Sep 26 2024 22:51 utc | 90 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Sep 26 2024 23:49 utc | 90 Does it matter if Biden mixes up hostages and sausages? In a very short space of time Biden and Netanyahu are going spit and sizzle like barbecued pork sausages in the Fire of Hell for the unconscionable evil they have jointly contrived in Palestine. Every single day for eternity. Posted by: Giyane | Sep 27 2024 0:05 utc | 91 Does it matter if Nuland and Blinken got 75 years of free lunches as Ukrainian Nazis in Washibgton? Posted by: Giyane | Sep 27 2024 0:20 utc | 92 They will be asked ” Did no Warner come from God to warn you about Hell fire? ” Yes “, they will reply,” Warners came, but we didn’t listen to them and if we had listened to them, we wouldn’t be now daily incinerated in the Fire of Hell for endless time. ” Posted by: Giyane | Sep 27 2024 0:27 utc | 93 Norway issues international search request for person linked to exploding pagers in Lebanon Posted by: Menz | Sep 27 2024 0:31 utc | 94 asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل Posted by: Menz | Sep 27 2024 0:33 utc | 95 Globe Eye News Posted by: Menz | Sep 27 2024 0:34 utc | 96 Abier Posted by: Menz | Sep 27 2024 0:35 utc | 97 SilencedSirs◼️ Posted by: Menz | Sep 27 2024 0:36 utc | 98 Nick Riemer Posted by: Menz | Sep 27 2024 0:37 utc | 99 This ability to know where they are is depressing. Like I’ve been saying before, it’s hard to see how the Israelis will be compelled to stop any of this. I guess if there is any hope, it would be that the replacement commanders aren’t the traitors…. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 27 2024 0:41 utc | 100 |
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