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September 22, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-227

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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everywhere traitors 4 israhell
1
they could only kill so many hezbola commanders because of traitors inside of hezbola
2
explosives in pagers
i am working at customs in eu country
container with manipulated pagers could never ever pass our control station
never!
we can each ctn and pager
u can immediately see changes or manipulations
our dogs check each ctn and would smell the stuff
the port in Lebanon has scanners and dogs
somebody is working for Mossad inside Lebanese customs

Posted by: makarena | Sep 23 2024 14:32 utc | 201

205 – I don’t know about Qatar, but Turkey is not a member of any sort of “resistance axis” and would like to turn the heat down in the region.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 23 2024 14:33 utc | 202

Posted by: makarena | Sep 23 2024 14:32 utc | 208
No, Israel didn’t ‘intercept’ the shipment of pagers. The explosives were embedded directly at the factory, through the use of a front company.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2024 14:33 utc | 203

Re: all in ?
A year ago, it was stated that Hezbollah isn’t all in until the refinery – chemical complex in Haifa is in flames
Guess they are waiting for the winds to blow south towards Jaffa area

Posted by: Exile | Sep 23 2024 14:39 utc | 204

Israel is throwing around the ‘clean design’ nukes America gave them like pancakes.
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2024 14:31 utc | 207
If true, it won’t be long before an unexploded one makes it’s way to the reverse engineers in Teheran and Moscow …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 14:40 utc | 205

Posted by: vargas | Sep 23 2024 14:30 utc | 206
vargas’s concern trolling is kind of funny.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 23 2024 14:42 utc | 206

Hezbollah has reportedly hit the Iron Dome component factory buildings in Haifa.
https://x.com/cirnosad/status/1838229562859413570

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2024 14:54 utc | 207

Rafael factory takes a second pager pie to the face:
https://youtu.be/zU96Rz_kzT0?si=BOSdolDpxHyNRiVS
Sell! Mortimer, sell!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 14:57 utc | 208

As is with West, Israel’s propaganda is repetitive, boring & insults even the uninformed.
More of same:
https://tass.com/world/1846629
23 SEP, 09:47
“Israeli foreign minister accuses Hezbollah of war crimes”
“According to Israeli Foreign Minister Yisrael Katz, Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah “has taken the people of Lebanon hostage, placing missiles and weapons in their homes and villages to threaten Israel’s civilians”
That’s why USReal needs to massacre civilians.
Gaza redux 2.3
On another note, I am passing link to podcast of SYED Mahmud, who does a decent job with: Maps, weapons and general information:
https://m.youtube.com/@syedmahmud-e6o/streams
Hezbollah’s Ferocious Fadi ‘Hits’ Israeli Base, Airfield | Never-Before-Revealed Specs Decoded
2 Million Zionists PANIC as Hezbollah Launches New Long Range Missiles Into Israel – Total COLLAPSE
I don’t know much about him, just came across channel.
I like to branch out past the “usual” that appear these days.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2024 15:03 utc | 209

Latest update from Al Manar:

17:37 Lebanese Health Minister holds press conference, revises death toll of Israeli aggression: 274 martyrs including 21 children and 39 women
17:25 Israeli media: Hezbollah expands range of rocket fire to 120 km
17:22 Long-range rockets launched from Lebanon for first time since October 8, triggering sirens in northern West Bank settlements: Israeli media
17:17 Sirens sound east of Tel Aviv: Israeli media
17:15 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters targeted the HQ of rocketry and artillery battalion at Yoav Barracks: statement
17:12 Israeli media: Rocket sirens triggered in Kiryat Bialik, Kiryat Motzkin, Kiryat Yam, Acre, and several other regions in the north
17:02 Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters struck the northern front’s storehouses at Nimra military base (west of Tiberias) in response to the Israeli aggression on Bekaa and south Lebanon
16:55 Rockets land near Afula, east of Haifa: Israeli media
16:51 Israeli media: Some 30 rockets fired from Lebanon towards Lower Galilee
16:49 Rockets fall in central Golan without sirens sounding: Israeli media

Hezbollah is not lying down. The pain is going both ways.

The difference? Hezbollah is hitting almost exclusively military targets while Israhell is hitting almost exclusively civilian targets.

That’s like two heavyweight boxers going at it in the ring while the bigger one insists on knocking out the opponents support team.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 15:11 utc | 210

🇱🇧⚡🇮🇱 According to reports, an Israeli plane made an emergency landing in Cyprus after Hezbollah targeted runways in Israel.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31532

🇱🇧⚡🇮🇱 According to initial reports, an Israeli air defense battery has been targeted by a Hezbollah rocket in north of occupied West Bank

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31533

The moment a rocket fell on a settlement near Salfit

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31534

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 15:19 utc | 211

I don’t know much about him, just came across channel.
I like to branch out past the “usual” that appear these days.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2024 15:03 utc | 216
He’s a a decent aggregator. Been following his opinions for a while.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 15:22 utc | 212

🇱🇧⚡🇮🇱 According to reports, an Israeli plane made an emergency landing in Cyprus after Hezbollah targeted runways in Israel.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 15:19 utc | 219
It’s going to be really hilarious when none of those super duper F-16s and F-35s can land in Israhell anymore.
Maybe Jordan or Egypt will give them a hand …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 15:27 utc | 213

Hezbollah can fire hundreds of missiles every single day for more than a year. The Iron Dome can’t.

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/9910

China has called on its citizens to leave occupied Palestine as soon as possible

https://t.me/presstv/110866

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 15:29 utc | 214

@ Menz – likely third party anti malware restricting your IP address. Can be if using shared IP address (e.g. VPN ) as these get blacklisted frequently, but even IP from normal connection is shared and can be blacklisted due to traffic by others. Alternatively man in middle purposefully targeting you by restricting access from your IP – less likely unless you think you have a reason to be purposefully targeted … i.e. just for you being reasoned would do. Have come across this occasionally, also third party anti-spam completely disabling delivery of mails , but not continuously repeatedly for IP adresses. VPN IP often though. There are tons of filters now on the web , in europe blocking access to banned sources, in US not allowing access due to compliances with EU. It is chaotic.
Civilian toll in Lebanon rising.
Repeating the set of local Palestine links…
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 23 2024 15:33 utc | 215

Maybe Jordan or Egypt will give them a hand …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 15:27 utc | 221
What f-35, you didn’t land one of those here?!?

Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 23 2024 15:34 utc | 216

Note that, of course, sounds other than a nuke can produce a Dirac delta, but when we consider the intense and sustained light, as well as other evidence such as the Rayleigh-Taylor instability observed, and the lack of anything else that could possibly cause this, it is a nuke.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1837846363448791470.html
Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2024 9:06 utc | 141
You really believe Israel ‘snuck’ in the use of a nuclear weapon and know one, like Iran or Hzb themselves, did not notice or would not say anything?
Likely more like a thermobaric weapon instead, which can produce the sounds and look (ie mushroom like cloud) of a nuke but not a nuke. USA has them in fact.

Posted by: drsmith | Sep 23 2024 15:36 utc | 217

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 15:27 utc | 221
Their air force will probably start using US bases around Israel, and Cyprus. US will arrange all the stuff like missiles there.
One shouldn’t put it past it US fighters bombing Lebanon originating from US bases around Israel.
Since Iran seems to be ‘busy’ with other things they can’t be relied to deliver the knockout blow to the USrael.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2024 15:38 utc | 218

Posted by: drsmith | Sep 23 2024 15:36 utc | 225
It is not a thermobaric bomb.
The initial Israel narrative was it was an ammo depot, after the science of a nuke started gaining traction, they changed the narrative to a thermobaric bomb.
The problem is thermobaric bomb lasts only a very short time. It spreads fuel in the air and ignites it, and the flame front burns it all in a second.
The sky above Lebanon was lit for at least 5 seconds with a steady light stream (you can count it from the video). Then the shotgun sound.

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2024 15:41 utc | 219

Iron Dome = Rust Dome

Posted by: Exile | Sep 23 2024 15:43 utc | 220

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2024 15:38 utc | 226
Too difficult to say right now.
Too many complex variables in flight.
As for Iran, the very fact that Hezbollah is firing Iranian missiles should tell you they haven’t been sitting idle.
The Armourer is a warrior too.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 15:48 utc | 221

It has been confirmed that the Iron Dome system stationed near the Salfit settlement in the central West Bank was destroyed by resistance missiles. Visible evidence includes the concrete barriers typically placed around the system, as well as the microwave antenna.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31542

🇮🇱💥🇱🇧 Israel is targeting Beirut at the moment.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/123873

🇮🇱 🇺🇸 Pentagon: We are sending some troops to the Middle East to assist Israel

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31544

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 15:51 utc | 222

Gaza News Now
“Quoting Reuters,
Israeli aircraft made an emergency landing in Cyprus after Hezbollah targeted the runways in Israel.”

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 23 2024 15:59 utc | 223

▶️ Video shows Israel’s Iron Dome failing to intercept Hezbollah’s drone as it makes its way to pound a regime’s power plant in northern occupied territories.

https://t.me/presstv/110886

— 🇮🇱/ 🇱🇧 NEW: Red Alerts in Nazareth, Karmiel, Ramat David Airbase and surroundings

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/9919

— 🇮🇱/ 🇱🇧 Additional Red Alerts now also in Haifa and Acre, besides Nazareth and Karmiel

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/9920

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 16:06 utc | 224

This all happens the worst possible time for Zelensky.
US boots headed to Israel, along with more depleted iron dome. Means the Pentagonbis gonna have to step up and divert more missiles to their master.
USA is Bibi’s beeyatch!!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 23 2024 16:07 utc | 225

Re: Killing #3 man ?
The Likud hasn’t a clue how to defeat a resistance movement. They think these resistance movements are a top down, centralized bureaucratic, organization (similar to the IDF). Soooo they think chopping-off-the-head kills the beast.
Wrong.
What a bunch of dunderheads. Honestly.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 23 2024 16:09 utc | 226

🇮🇱 🇺🇸 Pentagon: We are sending some troops to the Middle East to assist Israel
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31544
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 15:51 utc | 230
If God’s Chosen People need yanquis to save their asses they must now truly be f—ed.
I wonder if US troops are prepared to land in the Bekaa Valley or cross the line of control into Southern Lebanon?
We’ll find out pretty soon, I suppose.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 16:12 utc | 227

So much for the rumor that the Pentagon told Israel that they’d be on their own if they invaded Lebanon.
That definitely didn’t age well.
We now know who wears the pants in that relationship and it isn’t the USA!
Next up – weapons designated for Ukraine get diverted from Poland and flown in to Israel. Zelensky is the Pentagon’s side slut and he’s getting dumped this week. The master needs a full time committed relationship.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 23 2024 16:17 utc | 228

An assembly of footage reflecting the reactions of Israhellis to Hezbollah’s retaliation:
(Citizen footage and reactions):
Settlers learn what it’s like to be Palestinian
Excellent narrative overlay.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 16:24 utc | 229

🇮🇱⚔️🇱🇧 The occupation government approves the decision to declare a “special state of emergency” on the home front in all occupied cities.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/123876

🔴 Experts say Zionist entity PM Netanyahu invaded Lebanon to make Israelis ‘forget about Gaza failures’

https://t.me/presstv/110891

🇱🇧⚡️🇮🇱 More rockets are falling on Israeli settlements in northern occupied territories.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31551

— 🇮🇱/🇱🇧 Haaretz: ‘Netanyahu’s plan of ‘de-escalation through escalation’ did not work’
No shit sherlock

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/9925

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 16:29 utc | 230

If Hezbollah had AA defenses I would expect them to have been deployed against the JAF by now.
On the other hand the IOF seem happy enough to pretend that the ongoing daily hail of Hez rockets are causing little, if any, damage.
Jewrael is beginning to remind me of a silly Loonie Tunes cartoon:
A bulldog called Spike, with a 1-terrier fan club, chases a tiger into a dark shed thinking it’s a cat. After a brief and noisy skirmish Spike staggers from the shed covered in cuts and abrasions.
“Did he hurt ya Spike? Did he?”
“Nah” replies Spike “He just scratched me.”
And collapses in a pile of chopped up bulldog…

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 23 2024 16:31 utc | 231

Here’s the thing that I still don’t understand. Hopefully someone at the bar can educate me…
The resistance has known for decades that ‘israel’ is wholly dependant on its air force and aerial bombardment as means to conduct its ‘warfare’.
So how is it that NOBODY in the resistance seems to have any air defences?

Posted by: RP | Sep 23 2024 16:44 utc | 232

🇮🇱 🇺🇸 Pentagon: We are sending some troops to the Middle East to assist Israel
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31544
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 15:51 utc | 230
While you could be right, they are likely going there to help our own troops already there who are basically sitting ducks at this point. As you said, everyone will soon find out.
Now is not a good time to be in the US military…

Posted by: drsmith | Sep 23 2024 16:46 utc | 233

🇱🇧⚡️🇮🇱 Haifa is under attack…
🇱🇧⚡️🇮🇱 Enemy media: 300,000 settlers are heading to shelters.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/31557

🇮🇱l🇱🇧 After fire was detected in the Israeli base of Ramat David, on NASA’s website.
It was removed. You can usually see this at: https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/9926

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 16:52 utc | 234

It’s being reported that Turkey and Qatar are now pressuring Hezbollah to enter a diplomatic agreement with the jews. It seems that no one has an actual appetite for war. Except Bibi. Maybe.
Posted by: x | Sep 23 2024 12:18 utc | 169
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This is absurd, if true.
When do Turkey and Qatar put pressure on the Jews to end the Gaza genocide and adhere to the consensus of nations calling for an end to the illegal occupation?

Posted by: Janes | Sep 23 2024 16:53 utc | 235

245
Sorry, typo
posted by Jane

Posted by: Jane | Sep 23 2024 16:54 utc | 236

So how is it that NOBODY in the resistance seems to have any air defences?
Posted by: RP | Sep 23 2024 16:44 utc | 242
This is very, very simple to understand.
Money and means.
The Resistance is of humble means.
It survives on donations.
Unlike Israhell, it does not have the world’s treasuries open to it’s disposal.
Under heavy sanctions and scrutiny, surrounded by enemies, Hezbollah has almost no means to bring in full air defense systems in (they’re big, expensive and clunky).

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 16:55 utc | 237

@Exile:
Potentially an addition to your Merkava tally, and if the video is to believed this one’s a write-off:
Hezbollah ‘Bombs’ Israeli Military Patrol; Blows Up Merkava Tank; ‘2 IDF Men Killed…’

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 17:06 utc | 238

USA says 40000 extra troops to be deployed middle east… to protect Israel…support within Israel if IDF goes into Lebanon ..somehow protect from Iran supposed threats,,?
Certainly not diplomatic efforts to reduce escalation as USA claims…….

Posted by: Jo | Sep 23 2024 17:20 utc | 239

Posted by: unimperator | Sep 23 2024 15:41 utc | 228
Guess we are going to have to agree to disagree. In the clip provide, the light from the bomb exploding was not bright enough. But the other sniff test not passed is indirectly brought up by your post itself: the analysis you provide to make your conclusions. I’m quite sure Russia and China are capable of making the same analysis, and I’m also quite sure they are monitoring the Middle East for such a development as everyone and their mother knows Israel have nukes
I’m certain if Russia and China defected any use of a nuclear weapon, their nuclear military branches would have been out of maximum alert , and would have made it public (due to the very noticeable power vacuum in Washington at the moment) just so that everyone understood the why it was being done, to avoid mistakes. It’s why there is still the ‘red’ phone even today. Again, pretty sure US would have had to let Russia and China know what Israel was going to do so they don’t get antsy, and Russia & China would have had to say ‘cool, no worries’…..which is beyond imagination.
Cue Dr. Strangelove:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtADkr30Tko

Posted by: drsmith | Sep 23 2024 17:23 utc | 240


Under heavy sanctions and scrutiny, surrounded by enemies, Hezbollah has almost no means to bring in full air defense systems in (they’re big, expensive and clunky).
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 16:55 utc | 247

MANPADS* aren’t big and clunky. Russia makes 2 types that I’m aware of. Igla (from pre RF times) and Verba = modern and continually updated.
*Man Portable Air Defense System

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 23 2024 17:34 utc | 241

I don’t know much about him, just came across channel.
I like to branch out past the “usual” that appear these days.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Sep 23 2024 15:03 utc | 217
========
Just watched his “2 million Israelis panic” video.
He provides maps with accompanying explanation, and vids to illustrate his points.
He sounds very credible to me.
Nice presentation and vibe.
His English is clear.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 23 2024 17:43 utc | 242

Journalist Youssef Fares
“Israeli tanks are firing intensively at the tents of the displaced in the Al-Mawasi area, west of Rafah city, in the southern Gaza Strip”
Keep distance from windows while under possibility of attack, keep to interior rooms or remove glass:
https://t.me/youseffares19/50560
@242 Like Arch, plus they will not be given advanced systems due to liability of use (as standard precaution from misuse). Manpads and lesser systems are no match for modern jets.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 23 2024 17:47 utc | 243

“Lebanon – A whole family of martyrs”
https://t.me/youseffares19/50576

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 23 2024 17:57 utc | 244

Ain al-Hilweh is a long term Palestinian refugee camp near Sidon.
“Young men from Ain al-Hilweh camp distribute water and juice to displaced people from southern Lebanon at the entrance to al-Hasbah”
https://t-me.translate.goog/youseffares19/50564?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en

Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 23 2024 18:05 utc | 245

*Man Portable Air Defense System
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 23 2024 17:34 utc | 251
When you have serious assholes in the sky you need serious air defence.
The problem with MANPADs is they don’t work well at fighters bombing your cities from over the horizon.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 23 2024 23:27 utc | 246

‘A Major Failure on the Part of Arab Leaders…’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v=vGTmE7GyQwc
“Arab leaders must act now to deter further Israeli crimes in Gaza and Lebanon.” Marwan Bishara

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2024 6:24 utc | 247

Incorrect url above, try this instead…
Marwan Bishara
https://x.com/marwanbishara/status/1838302808053027125
“Arab leaders must act now.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 24 2024 6:30 utc | 248

Starmer calls for the release of the “sausages” from Gaza. Freudian or what?

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Sep 24 2024 15:26 utc | 249

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 15:29 utc | 223
The expedited information is much appreciated.
Thank you.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 24 2024 18:22 utc | 250

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 23 2024 15:29 utc | 223
The expedited information is much appreciated.
Thank you.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 24 2024 18:23 utc | 251

Gorilla Radio: Interview with Laith Marouf in Beirut
https://gradio.substack.com/p/gorilla-radio-with-chris-cook-laith-176
Laith Marouf is founder and Executive Director of FreePalestine.Video
“…So first of all for our listeners, Al Jazeera is a propaganda arm of the Qatari regime, a vassal state created by the West whose main job is to undermine resistance in the Arab world…
‘The Zionists have no ability to defeat the military strategy of Hizbullah, and thus they are resorting to the same things they are doing in Gaza where they are also failing against the resistance in their Gaza extermination camp – genociding civilians.
‘This is what they are good at. They are bloodthirsty hyenas…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 25 2024 23:43 utc | 252