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September 19, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-224

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Israeli Organ Harvesting

(excerpt) ….Last week Sweden’s largest daily newspaper published an article containing shocking material: testimony and circumstantial evidence indicating that Israelis may have been harvesting internal organs from Palestinian prisoners without consent for many years.
Worse yet, some of the information reported in the article suggests that in some instances Palestinians may have been captured with this macabre purpose in mind.
In the article, “Our sons plundered for their organs,” veteran journalist Donald Bostrom writes that Palestinians “harbor strong suspicions against Israel for seizing young men and having them serve as the country’s organ reserve – a very serious accusation, with enough question marks to motivate the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to start an investigation about possible war crimes.”….

https://www.counterpunch.org/2009/08/28/israeli-organ-harvesting/

Posted by: Exile | Sep 20 2024 5:33 utc | 201

Yikes. No wonder Nasrallah has backed down. Poor Hezbollah.
An internal Hezbollah document prepared by the head of military intelligence reveals:
879 terrorists were eliminated in the pagers and Walkie-Talkie devices explosions, of which 131 were Iranians, 79 were Yemenis, and of these 291 were senior officials. 602 were mortally wounded, which means that the number of those killed will reach at least 1,000. 509 were blinded, and another 1,735 had their reproductive organs damaged, 905 irreversibly.

Posted by: Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 5:37 utc | 202

Sure Brent Burgess, Sure. The Likud has zero credibility.
Article from NYTs senior correspondent Chris Hesges who came clean after 4 decades:

(excerpt)…..The brazenness of Israeli lies stunned those of us who reported from Gaza. It did not matter if we had seen the Israeli attack, including the shooting of unarmed Palestinians. It did not matter how many witnesses we interviewed. It did not matter what photographic and forensic evidence we obtained. Israel lied. Small lies. Big lies. Huge lies.
These lies came reflexively and instantly from the Israeli military, Israeli politicians and Israeli media. They were amplified by Israel’s well-oiled propaganda machine and repeated with a cloying sincerity on international news outlets.
Israel engages in the kinds of jaw-dropping lies that characterize despotic regimes. It does not deform the truth, it inverts it. It paints a picture that is diametrically opposed to reality. Those of us who have covered the occupied territories have run into Israel’s Alice-in-Wonderland narratives, which we dutifully insert into our stories — required under the rules of American journalism — although we know they are untrue.

https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/israels-culture-of-deceit

Posted by: Exile | Sep 20 2024 5:53 utc | 203

@ vargas | Sep 19 2024 17:54 utc
Preventing the ethnic cleansing of Donbas, formerly and very undeservedly part of Ukraine?

Posted by: necromancer | Sep 20 2024 6:05 utc | 204

Israel just blew up senior IGRC leader in Damascus. Waiting to see who the lucky guy is. I’m sure Iran will respond. Any day now. Soon, inshallah.

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 6:07 utc | 205

https://x.com/VintageVault8/status/1836115906889449594
➳❥ @VintageVault8
Stop calling it a pager attack. It’s a terrorist attack, one of the worst in our history.
https://x.com/CraigMokhiber/status/1836591172296286629
Craig Mokhiber @CraigMokhiber
If a mass terrorist attack like that perpetrated by Israel in Lebanon occurred in any western country, western leaders would be marching arm-in-arm through the streets of Paris, western media would provide non-stop, tearful coverage, the UK flag would be at half-staff for weeks, and the US Air Force would be bombing the perpetrators (and several other countries).
But this is Israel, the country above all law. And the victims are only Arabs, the people designated as unworthy of human rights by the west. The hypocrisy. The racism. The #shame.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2024 6:08 utc | 206

Posted by: Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 5:37 utc | 201
Sure, a hasbara agent has access to a secret document, which funnily enough shows off Hizbullah as being in a far worse situation than anybody heard before. and of course Israel never lies, now does it? Now pull the other one.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 20 2024 6:11 utc | 207

@ Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 5:37 utc | 201
Terrorizing “good” terrorists is too mind blowing for the barflies stuck here; one even lost vision off all-ah.

Posted by: antonym | Sep 20 2024 6:14 utc | 208

Yes, indeed. There are industrial levels of cope going on here now. But the reality remains that Israel has dealt a massive physical and psychological blow to Hezbollah. Israel will now dictate the pace and terms of this war until the terrorists ask for a hudna.
“Terrorizing “good” terrorists is too mind blowing for the barflies stuck here; one even lost vision off all-ah.”
Posted by: antonym | Sep 20 2024 6:14 utc | 208

Posted by: Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 6:24 utc | 209

Terrorists have no rights. Their goal and mission in life is martyrdom and death. Israel is doing them a favor by obliging.
But this is Israel, the country above all law. And the victims are only Arabs, the people designated as unworthy of human rights by the west. The hypocrisy. The racism. The #shame.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2024 6:08 utc | 205

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 6:27 utc | 210

Terrorizing “good” terrorists is too mind blowing for the barflies stuck here; one even lost vision off all-ah.
Posted by: antonym | Sep 20 2024 6:14 utc | 208
The only people terrorised are the civilian Beiruti population. Certainly not Hizbullah. I can see no reason for effect on them.
That’s why they did sonic booms over Beirut yesterday (or more likely over the sea offshire) during Nasrallah’s speech. It’s all they can do. And bombing prepared positions (no doubt with stand-off weapons, so they don’t have to risk losing planes).

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 20 2024 6:28 utc | 211

Posted by: Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 6:24 utc | 209
Endless hopium from the hasbara.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 20 2024 6:29 utc | 212

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 20 2024 6:28 utc | 211
“The only people terrorised are the civilian Beiruti population. Certainly not Hizbullah. I can see no reason for effect on them”
LOL, your cope is awesome. Now tell that to the hundreds (or thousands) of Hezbollah’s that lost their balls and are now blind. Forever.

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 6:30 utc | 213

a cool principle for everyone in the rest of the world to follow, right? not just the Political, Media and military Elites in the US-centralized Empire.
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1836586178780270649
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
so the principle now established by the Western media and political class is that if you intercept an electronic device used by a member or supporter of a genocidal murderous terrorist political party, like say the Republicans and Democrats, AIPAC, every Israeli party, and implant an explosive in it, and then remotely detonate it whenever you like without care for if it actually blinds, maims or kills that specific person, but also anyone else around them at the time, or others who may have possession of it like their children, spouses, friends, etc., that’s not only a perfectly legitimate thing to do, it’s actually awesome and sophisticated and to be celebrated.
So the depraved principle that is now established by them is: It is perfectly fine and even great to want to intentionally maim, blind and kill all those people, and anyone who may be around them or be confused for them, at any time of your choosing, whenever you please.
That’s a cool principle. Let’s see how it works out for them.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2024 6:35 utc | 214

Terrorists have no rights. Their goal and mission in life is martyrdom and death. Israel is doing them a favor by obliging.
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 6:27 utc | 210
Oh? Terrorists have no rights?
Wonderful.
This means Israelis, who are terrorists, have no rights.
I say send them to the gas chambers.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 6:36 utc | 215

LOL, your cope is awesome. Now tell that to the hundreds (or thousands) of Hezbollah’s that lost their balls and are now blind. Forever.
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 6:30 utc | 213
It did not hit only Hizbollah, did it? That means it might hit you too. Or your children. Once this shit gets normalized.
An eye for an eyes, wasn’t it. It’s the only way that people like you will ever learn.

Posted by: Martina | Sep 20 2024 6:37 utc | 216

An internal Hezbollah document prepared by the head of military intelligence reveals:
Posted by: Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 5:37 utc | 201
They handed this internal document directly to you with the morning newspapers, I assume?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 6:38 utc | 217

So the depraved principle that is now established by them is: It is perfectly fine and even great to want to intentionally maim, blind and kill all those people, and anyone who may be around them or be confused for them, at any time of your choosing, whenever you please.
That’s a cool principle. Let’s see how it works out for them.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2024 6:35 utc | 214
It’s called “Collateral Damage”. It’s a prized old “Western Value”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 6:40 utc | 218

Not yet blocked by Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNf40sBcvKk
Israel has 10 Arabs as members of their Parliament: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset
Which Muslim country has an elected parliament & 10 Jewish, Christian, Hindu or Buddhist members in it?

Posted by: antonym | Sep 20 2024 6:40 utc | 219

Alexander Mercouris reports on a supposed meeting between Iran and Shia militias sometime prior to Israhell’selectronic device terrorism. According to him there was shouting and banging of fists on table. And threats by militias to walk out and it was only by great persuasion, militias agreed to accept Iran’s timetable (or lack thereof).
Mercouris then gives his reasons why he is so consanguineous with postponement of action. Here are his atguments for why once again, Hezbollah, then Iran, should not respond to Israhell’s provocations:
1.Because Israel wants an all-out war we should
therefore not do anything (Israel decides when?)
2. If Hezbollah or Iran acts now, world opinion would place the blame for the war on the resistance. (Right, just like the West’s narrative that Hamas started the Israhell/Gaza war on Oct. 7, 2023. Who cares what the enemy says? Whatever you do the West will lie about it. And it’s just about gone past when public opinion makes a difference. In today’s late capitalist world, the world leaders put their image on the back burner; it’s all about power. Certainly they don’t respond to their citizens’ opinions.)
3. Question: But I read somewhere it has something to do with aftermath — who gets blamed as if the ICJ hadn’t already been presented with Israhell’ s crimes which rate on a level with some of the worst in human history.
4. The most viable reason imo Mercouris gives this time after Israhell’s electronic device terrorism for postponement yet again of response by Resistance is that Hezbollah needs time to set up a new communications system, which he rationalizes “will happen quite quickly.”

Posted by: Lavieja | Sep 20 2024 6:42 utc | 220

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-directive-kidnap-hamas-gaza-hostages-idf/104224430
Australian state news broadcaster does an article on Hannibal directive from Oct 7. This angered Israelenough to call them terrorist supporters . Most other news just ignored the subject. Since the initial BBC article that was the first to broach the subject on msm. Librul will feel exonerated. The word gets out I guess as so much more has happened to diminish these truth nuggets.

Posted by: Hankster | Sep 20 2024 6:56 utc | 221

You had your chance. Your hero failed to complete his job and now Israel exists. And this keeps you up at night. Womp womp.
I say send them to the gas chambers.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 6:36 utc | 215

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:01 utc | 222

Which Muslim country has an elected parliament & 10 Jewish, Christian, Hindu or Buddhist members in it?
Posted by: antonym | Sep 20 2024 6:40 utc | 219
My, aren’t you a retard:
Iranian Jews cast votes in parliamentary elections

Iranian Jews on Friday voted in elections for the country’s parliament.
Photographs from AFP showed Jewish voters casting ballots at what appeared to be a synagogue in Tehran.
Jews have one of five seats guaranteed for religious minorities. The others are reserved for Zoroastrians and Assyrian-Chaldean Christians, while Armenian Christians get two seats.

There’s no cure for your strain of intellectual syphilis.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:01 utc | 223

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:01 utc | 222
Oh, don’t worry, the Jews get culled every hundred years or so along with their creepy paedo temples.
Been happening since Emperor Titus.
We’ve slowed down in the last 80 years or so but things will pick up again …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:05 utc | 224

Are you an IRGC agent? What nonsense are you spewing? Your projection and intellectual syphilis is showing.
There’s no cure for your strain of intellectual syphilis.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:01 utc | 223

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:06 utc | 225

All Under Heaven @ Sep 20 2024 0:45 utc | 159
Clock chip would not be a great idea, this doesn’t align with political developments and there is no way to ensure quick distribution.
Almost the entire strategic value is in creating confusion and burden right before an attack.
The reasons for not touching the batteries are nonsense for Li-Ion devices with custom batteries.
All of those batteries have a charge controller that has instant access to the entire energy stored in the battery.
This energy can be used to cause thermal runaway, the threshold is always close as charge current is optimized to just stay below causing issues.
The next question is the trigger – charge controllers receive input if a power source is available. In many devices the power plug is controlled and monitored by a system-on-chip (SoC). That SoC firmware can control the input to the charge controller and instruct it to trigger runaway.
In the embedded world there are no security barriers between firmware and hardware, if you instruct the controller to overcharge it will do so.
This could even work in stock devices without firmware access if a suitable trigger is chosen. You could either send unsecured OTA updates or if that is not possible reverse-engineer a targeted device and listen for a specific response the device will create in normal operation.
In short someone could create an aftermarket battery that listens to your iPhone and blows up if a certain emergency SMS arrives.
There are tons of triggers that could be used: GSM/Radio/VHF/SMS/Apps/Location/Time/power network frequency/OTA.
If done well and with some devices no physical modification besides a battery swap is required.
For the explosive, the easiest trigger cascade would be electric energy -> thermal runaway (oxidative energy) -> optional primer -> explosive.
A suitable explosive or primer could be added to the battery – just feels like a crappier battery like other knockoffs – not that suspicious.
The entire case or structural elements could be the explosive – no way to find out even by X-Ray.
And yes, Mossad will be entirely capable of ultrasonic welding or producing an identical case.
Guess we are in for interesting times now if this is applied to all the electronics made anywhere in the world.
Any Li-Ion battery, power brick, charger, pv inverter, coffee machine, smart switch, smartphone, hell even USB cables could be suspect.
All you can do to defend is follow the nitrogen – unfortunately neutron scanners are crazy expensive and error rates are crazy.
Guess being a Luddite will become more attractive, this is peak technology, peak globalism. The panic in CIA circles and Pentagon will be a sight to see down to Army barracks throwing out smart devices.
I personally don’t think the pagers were manufactured with explosives, secrecy would have to start with the choice and molding of plastics.
“Hey don’t blow up our factory by casting this too hot” is fairly obvious. Of course Israelis could run a shop in Taiwan but even that is fairly obvious. Occam says it’s easier to crack/Dremel the case and replace the battery, the welded case then is fake proof that no one tampered with the device.

Posted by: SOS | Sep 20 2024 7:08 utc | 226

Are you an IRGC agent? What nonsense are you spewing? Your projection and intellectual syphilis is showing.
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:06 utc | 225
Come on, you can do better than that.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:10 utc | 227

Thanks for outing yourself to everyone. We know who you are.
We’ve slowed down in the last 80 years or so but things will pick up again …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:05 utc | 224

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:10 utc | 228

Thanks for outing yourself to everyone. We know who you are.
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:10 utc | 228
No you don’t. But your mom does 😉

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:11 utc | 229

Arch Bungle has now provided the clearest evidence as to why the State of Israel must exist as a safe haven for Jews. Otherwise, Nazis like Archie Bungle would send all Jews to the gas chambers. Thanks for clearing that up for us, Archie. You’re a real Zionist after all.

Posted by: El Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:18 utc | 230

Yup, like I said. Intellectual syphilis.
No you don’t. But your mom does 😉
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:11 utc | 229

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:20 utc | 231

Now tell that to the hundreds (or thousands) of Hezbollah’s that lost their balls and are now blind. Forever.
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 6:30 utc | 213
The hopium of the hasbara is limitless.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 20 2024 7:23 utc | 232

karlof1 @ Sep 19 2024 18:03 utc | 75
Makes no strategic sense for Hezbollah to down the random jets bombing or scaring Beirut.
Those attacks only strengthen popular support. AD is for when the full on invasion occurs. AD works best in a confusing radar situation and a target rich environment.
Strategically Hezbollah success depends on when USUK support is at a minimum. Right now restraint makes sense as there will be more RF and Iranian arms deliveries, more strategic and economic alignment, more moral justification.
Hezbollah can wait, even tactically they can regroup and exploit the pager situation for more support.
With northern Israel evacuated and staying on their side they have IDF over a barrel. They only get stronger from here as opposed to Israel who have to rush into a kill zone with low morale, comparatively low resources, no attainable goals, no justification.
If Israel goes in they have to occupy beyond missile range as to allow the northern population to return. Even by low safety standards that will be impossible.
Alignment is the big issue. Once Israel steps outside of it’s current borders, there is potential for IRGC to enter the fray. Pressure is there to act but plenty of reasons not to. I think “perceived chance of success” is the big one, if IDF looks weak and there are spoils to be had someone will pounce.

Posted by: SOS | Sep 20 2024 7:24 utc | 233

Yup, like I said. Intellectual syphilis.
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:20 utc | 231
You’ve learned a new phrase I see.
When you come to MoA your IQ jumps a lot higher.
You can now run off to all the forums you usually infest and parrot my gift to you like the virus you are.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:26 utc | 234

Hey, I’m not the one singing soprano this morning. And that report comes from the Saudis anyway. Hezbollah is running scared right now. Nasrallah’s speech yesterday was weak and confused, and he is being mocked mercilessly on the Arab Telegram channels. Maybe the Arab Telegram channels are also hasbara?
The hopium of the hasbara is limitless.
Posted by: laguerre | Sep 20 2024 7:23 utc | 232

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:29 utc | 235

No, I enjoy sparring with Nazis and Jihadists. Unless you run off and ask for me to be banned because you can’t take some heat. I’ll understand if you do, Archie.
You can now run off to all the forums you usually infest and parrot my gift to you like the virus you are.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:26 utc | 234

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:31 utc | 236

Arch Bungle has now provided the clearest evidence as to why the State of Israel must exist as a safe haven for Jews
Posted by: El Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:18 utc | 230
Your ‘Jews’ having been living in full terror for almost one year now.
Hundreds of thousands of them are refugees in their own stolen territory.
An increasing rain of missiles pours on to you and will not stop for decades.
You’re hiring African soldiers to breed new ‘Jewish’ IDF members because your men are all gay and your women are all in heat.

This you call safe?

Like I said earlier: There’s no cure for your particular strain of intellectual syphilis.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:32 utc | 237

No, I enjoy sparring with Nazis and Jihadists. Unless you run off and ask for me to be banned because you can’t take some heat. I’ll understand if you do, Archie.
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:31 utc | 236
Your first rodeo, I see.
You call this ‘sparring’.
I call it “regular day at MoA”.
Cockwombles like you have been coming and going for years on this forum.
You’re not the first.
You won’t be the last.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:35 utc | 238

LOL, cockwomble. Your sad little island is being overrun by jihadis and pretty soon there will be no white people left. What are you going to do then, little Nazi? You will submit.
Cockwombles like you have been coming and going for years on this forum.
You’re not the first.
You won’t be the last.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:35 utc | 238

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:38 utc | 239

A lot safer than your shitty island overrun by rapists and brown people. Your cope is REAL.
This you call safe?
Like I said earlier: There’s no cure for your particular strain of intellectual syphilis.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:32 utc | 237

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:41 utc | 240

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:29 utc | 235
The inventivity of the hasbara is limitless. Now it’s trying to implicate the Saudis. Israel has been desperate to get in with the Saudis for years. They’re now reduced to inventing a connection. The Saudis wouldn’t give Israel documents, even if they had them, which I doubt. Saudi internal security is good; we know little of what goes on in the country.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 20 2024 7:46 utc | 241

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:38 utc | 239
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:41 utc | 240
This is the grade of troll they’re vomiting onto us these days?
Pathetic.
Even antonym, as retarded as he is does better than this.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:46 utc | 242

You can’t cope. You’re pathetic. You’re the type of cuckold cockwomble that would be ok with a brown jihadi raping your kid (if you even have one, lord help them). Nazi’s are the lowest form of scum.
Pathetic.
Even antonym, as retarded as he is does better than this.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:46 utc | 242

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:49 utc | 243

Ignore this Arch Bumble troll. He’s a Nazi.
Thanks for outing yourself to everyone. We know who you are.
We’ve slowed down in the last 80 years or so but things will pick up again …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:05 utc | 224
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:10 utc | 228

Posted by: Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 7:52 utc | 244

You can’t cope. You’re pathetic. You’re the type of cuckold cockwomble
Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 7:49 utc | 243
Hehehe 🤣 look at it squirm.
Not a stitch of originality to be found.
Israel’s time is almost over.
Tick.
Tock.
Tick.
Tock.
I’ll be living rent free in your head from now on …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:55 utc | 245

Just look at the geography, hills are a handicap to tanks. So the Zionist/Israeli idea of Hezbollah fighters arriving in “waves” to be mown down is not very bright. BUT the obligation is that now the IDF has to go against many fixed defensive positions (and minefields) to increase it’s expansionist project (Smotrich, Ben Gvir).
***
Note that this terrorist attack on the Lebanese, started about 15 years ago. So one has to take into account that the next 15 years, which will include wars on Syria, Egypt, Iraq and Jordan, as well as Lebanon, are already being implemented. The area is that of the Two rivers represented on the Israeli flag – Nile to Euphrates. They won’t be satisfied with that either.
***
However, once warned, twice shy. Chinese sources are being overwhelmed by orders from the Middle East for phones and other devices that can guarantee no western participation. Africa and other countries (BRICS?) will inevitably follow suit. American military “gifts” or Israeli productions will be considered as potentially dangerous.
It is clear that my next phone will be Chinese, and I am not a threat to anyone. But is because I am NOT a threat, that I must now consider my own safety as a bystander.
****
Actually this from Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 5:37 utc | 201
“1,735 had their reproductive organs damaged, 905 irreversibly.”
Is really quite funny, as Herzbollah are now supposed to listen with their “reproductive organs”, and as Arch says, the guy (well I mihgt not be using the correct gender, but so what?) has a personal link to Herzbollah’s secret discussions.
****
One éast note; this is “State terrorism” and includes Israel, not simply the Zionists, and the US and many others are complict.

Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 20 2024 8:00 utc | 246

Brian Berletic is out with an hour long analysis of pagergate:
http://youtube.com/post/UgkxKN8s_ySjUIsjWJe4nMXUgouljvVoqHp6?si=JmFWYZ7gjNgw8ib0
This should be good.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 8:03 utc | 247

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 6:30 utc | 213
Terror attacks never do what their adherents claim and actually intimidate their targets into giving up. So what do you think happens to Hezbollah recruitment figures over the next few months in response to a cowardly backdoor attack like this. Whatever the true figures of Hezbollah losses, I would bet they’re replaced manyfold before the year is out. Meanwhile the northern border regions of Israel remain depopulated and may remain so forever unless the Israeli military can deliver a conventional military defeat to Hezbollah which they seem reluctant to even attempt because essentially nobody has any confidence that they could actually win – certainly not without Uncle Sam’s direct involvement.

Posted by: OnceWere | Sep 20 2024 8:04 utc | 248

It is clear that my next phone will be Chinese, and I am not a threat to anyone. But is because I am NOT a threat, that I must now consider my own safety as a bystander.
Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 20 2024 8:00 utc | 246
You are a threat as long as you are not in full prostration to Baal, the true god of Israel.
You, like the entire world are a hostage to their Samson Option, which looking at the rate of their collapse they could unleash at any time.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 8:09 utc | 249

zionism is a death cult
and Bibi et. al. are sociopaths hurtling us towards a huge regional war, which could well turn nuclear
https://x.com/MariamBarghouti/status/1836840211851973006
Mariam Barghouti مريم البرغوثي @MariamBarghouti
It’s not barbaric.
It’s psychopathic, a death cult ritual.
It’s this sick need to not just kill the Palestinian but to rip their bodies to pieces. To treat them with absolute disregard to them as a living being.
Because if they do, acknowledge that Palestinians indeed are people- then they necessarily must recognize the human tendency to live freely without the chains and abuses of a military regime.
Then they must see their monstrosity for what it is.
ANS – see the video:
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1836836606558318638
Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2
“But… but Hamas threw people off rooftops” has been one of Israel’s main talking points to justify slaughtering Gazans for decades.
Here, the IDF, in broad daylight, throwing a Palestinian off a rooftop after they shot him today.
You’ll never hear MSM calling this barbaric!

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2024 8:15 utc | 250

220 lavieja correction — should have said “why Mercouris is so sanquine over postponing Resistance response..”

Posted by: Lavieja | Sep 20 2024 8:21 utc | 251

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 19 2024 21:46 utc | 121
_________
As of this morning Le Monde in French is still referring to the pagers as “Hezbollah’s booby-trapped devices” in all of its headlines.

Posted by: Gene Poole | Sep 20 2024 8:28 utc | 252

Nima with Laith Marouf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8SJXmcESXU&t=1460s

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 20 2024 8:28 utc | 253

Aw, did I touch a nerve, little Nazi? It’s clear that the Jews live rent free in your head. Sad little cuckold. Run to mama.
I’ll be living rent free in your head from now on …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 7:55 utc | 245

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 8:28 utc | 254

These three terrorists were shot dead in a firefight with the IDF. Why carry sacks of trash down a bunch of stairs when you can throw it out from the roof and then collect it with a bulldozer for burial at the bottom. The IDF should bury these terrorists in pig fat. They play too nice.
Here, the IDF, in broad daylight, throwing a Palestinian off a rooftop after they shot him today.
You’ll never hear MSM calling this barbaric!
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2024 8:15 utc | 250

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 8:34 utc | 255

Hamas takes out more Namer carriers in Gaza:
https://youtu.be/UAYYK-xSaTw?si=qXa5r8ACagd7uz8c
I can assure you this particular batch of israeloids will be airlifting to Tel Aviv minus their balls.
“I left my baaaaaaaallsssss in good old gaaazaaa! Oh me oh my, oi vey, oi vey …” …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 8:35 utc | 256

Your nervous projection is entertaining as f*ck. You talk about balls when your Hezbollah heroes lost literally thousands of their balls (and other appendages) this week. A mass circumcision event courtesy of Israel and the superior Jewish IQ. The new army of eunuchs. The memes are glorious. Keep going Nazi, you’re on a roll this morning.

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 8:41 utc | 257

Italians turn their back on Israeloid ‘anthem’ (dirge):
https://youtu.be/WFpTRUsKlfo?si=nrgRaHrHRPBbinJ7

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 8:41 utc | 258

Here, what passes for Israeloid ‘men’ attack Palestinian primary schools in a show of Jewish masculinity:
http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx09ZaWD7Rfh_hih5c-mkrqIvE__5evVgq?si=U0Ui44I5Z8uVYiAM
The Jewish Israeloid Masculine epitome`:
Powerful against women, children and old people. Bravest against nurseries and incubator rooms.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 8:48 utc | 259

Al-Qassem combat footage from Yesterday:
https://x.com/PalestineChron/status/1836865665149587566?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1836865665149587566%7Ctwgr%5E9a03e761dd5fe4c2694a08673518558db43a9a53%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.palestinechronicle.com%2Fgaza-live-blog-soldier-killed-tensions-with-lebanon-escalate-new-israeli-strikes-in-gaza-day-349%2F
Comment – consistent since 2.Oct. Unsupported IDF armor getting easily wacked. 3 strikes one using landmines which appears to be made from unexploded IDF bombs.
Merkava tally plus 1 – now 212 “destroyed”

Posted by: Exile | Sep 20 2024 8:55 utc | 260

Re: Christians in Arab parliaments ?
Since 30% of the population in the Levant is Christian, it commonplace for Christian Arabs to be in gov’t.
Re: Safe Haven for Jews ?
The safest place for Jews these days is ….Iran

Posted by: Exile | Sep 20 2024 8:57 utc | 261

Gene Poole | Sep 20 2024 8:28 utc | 252
BBC: “Herzbollah device explosions”
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PS. Sorry for typos earlier, someone arrived.

Posted by: Stonebird | Sep 20 2024 9:09 utc | 262

15 more israeloids join the Palestinian Space Programme:
https://www.youtube.com/live/qqdcIe8Zmgo?si=E6DM22UT5q3hkFYy
“Hezbollah’s latest strike has reportedly left 15 Israeli soldiers dead or injured, following a powerful attack on an IDF military site near the Lebanese border.”
To the moon!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 9:10 utc | 263

TRUMP: When I am elected president, I will ban the resettlement of refugees from terror-infested areas like the Gaza Strip.
WSJ (Citing US officials): We do not expect both Hamas and Israel to reach a deal on Gaza before the end of President Joe Biden’s term.
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/gaza-live-blog-destruction-in-metulla-massacre-in-nuseirat-israelis-oppose-gallants-dismissal-day-350/
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US intelligence source tells ABC News:
Israel had a hand in manufacturing pagers that detonated on Hezbollah operatives.
This type of supply chain hack has been planned for at least 15 years.
The attack planning involved front companies with multiple layers of Israeli intelligence officers.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Posted by: teri | Sep 20 2024 9:16 utc | 264

Re: Safe Haven for Jews ?
The safest place for Jews these days is ….Iran
Posted by: Exile | Sep 20 2024 8:57 utc | 261
I wonder if that is the real reason why Israel and its western backers are hell bent on destroying Iran.

Posted by: Martina | Sep 20 2024 9:16 utc | 265

TRUMP: When I am elected president, I will ban the resettlement of refugees from terror-infested areas like the Gaza Strip.
Posted by: teri | Sep 20 2024 9:16 utc | 264
I hope he’s referring to the area defined by the borders of the USA.
I’d hate to think he thinks he has legal authority over the globe and Palestine specifically.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 9:18 utc | 266

meanwhile back at the genocide and ethnic cleansing ranch
in a video going around of Chomsky talking to a reporter, he says, “If they do it it’s terrorism, if we do it it’s counter-terrorism”
another version:
“It’s only terrorism if they do it to us. When we do much worse to them, it’s not terrorism.” ― Noam Chomsky, Media Control: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 20 2024 9:24 utc | 267

Anyone claiming superior Israeli IQ has never been there.

Posted by: Polli | Sep 20 2024 10:06 utc | 268

The Cradle does an expose for Genociders going to Marrakesh for R & R.

Posted by: Suresh | Sep 20 2024 10:23 utc | 269

Bombs in toys: A brief history of Israeli booby traps in Lebanon

(excerpt)….Bombs in toys
But a much more sinister accusation has also circulated since the 90s – that of bombs being dropped by Israeli aircraft in southern Lebanon intentionally concealed in children’s toys.
Lebanese newspaper L’Orient-Le Jour reported on the phenomenon in 1997, citing a number of examples including a nine-year-old girl who had her right hand shredded after finding a “big apple-green plastic jeep, with six big black wheels” that blew up in her hand after finding it near her village.
They also mentioned the example of a child who was left with severe burns after finding a booby-trapped flashlight and another girl who was killed after exclaiming “I found a doll!” before being blown up.
An officer of the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) confirmed to AFP at the time that the objects were mainly dropped by helicopter.
“It can be a toy or have the shape of an ordinary stone,” he said on condition of anonymity.
In 1998 a letter from the Permanent Mission of Lebanon to the United Nations addressed to the secretary-general also repeated the claim that Israeli fighter planes had “attempted to kill children by dropping thousands of booby-trapped toys on Lebanese villages and towns”….,

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/what-kind-booby-traps-has-israel-used-lebanon

Posted by: Exile | Sep 20 2024 10:24 utc | 270

Yes, indeed. There are industrial levels of cope going on here now. But the reality remains that Israel has dealt a massive physical and psychological blow to Hezbollah. Israel will now dictate the pace and terms of this war until the terrorists ask for a hudna.
Posted by: Brent Burgess | Sep 20 2024 6:24 utc | 209
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Doubtful, Israeli ground forces are the weakest part of their military by far, even before they’d been worn down by the Gaza fighting.
Whilst air-power & sneaky fuckery can only do so much, to an opponent who is alerted to it/dug in.
Also the IDF has tried Lebanon before. Back when they had powerful local allied militas, it went badly wrong…

Posted by: Urban Fox | Sep 20 2024 10:24 utc | 271

They are everywhere
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakka_people

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 20 2024 10:25 utc | 272

using a friends WiFi:
COMBATE |🇵🇷
@upholdreality
Huawei Mate XT
Best feature: Won’t blow up your head when you piss off a Zionist
https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1836731299798655321

Posted by: Menz | Sep 20 2024 10:28 utc | 273

Yes. Finally, a coherent and rational post that rises above the entertaining cope of the Nazi, Archie Bunghole. I agree with you 100%. It’s put up or shut up time, Bibi.
Meanwhile the northern border regions of Israel remain depopulated and may remain so forever unless the Israeli military can deliver a conventional military defeat to Hezbollah which they seem reluctant to even attempt because essentially nobody has any confidence that they could actually win – certainly not without Uncle Sam’s direct involvement.
Posted by: OnceWere | Sep 20 2024 8:04 utc | 248

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 10:36 utc | 274

250 – “Rebels”, you know, those cuddly people the West backs, also threw postal workers from the roof of the central post office in the part of Aleppo they captured, in 2013 or so. The rationale seems to have been that they were Syrian government employees.

Posted by: Waldorf | Sep 20 2024 11:01 utc | 275

Woooooooow! Unbelievable mountains of hasbara bat guano to feast on this morning. Trouble is I seem to have undergone some Kafkan Metamorphosis stopping me from articulating my thoughts.
The headlines of British newspapers are screaming about Starmer sticking two fingers, ( I remember mine ), up to Netanyahu about arms to Israel.
The fact remains that Gallant has been told that the US Navy needs the toilet and soon will have to leave.
Popular unrest in Europe is turning the political narrative against Israel.
He must immediately advance his woodlice Merkavas towards Lebanon so that British and US planes based in Malta can bomb any humans in Lebanon.
Already I notice I hate the stench of humans. Sham is our land, inscribed on plastic tablets by the Ukrainian Khazar Nazis. We will soon clear the humans away with our body armour and eat them. Sorry that wasn’t very polite of me. The thought just popped into my mind involuntarily
Yes, USUKIS see West Asia as low hanging fruit, ready like damsons weighing the branches down for picking. You will never see a British Prime Minister turn away from low hanging fruit.
This battle will be by foreign air and missiles, mostly against civilians. It can only be stopped by further targeting of USUKIS military assets which are attacking Palestine and Lebanon with hypersonic missiles.
They don’t like it up ’em when the low hanging fruit of West Asia suddenly bites their greedy little hands. Allahu Akbar!

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 20 2024 11:01 utc | 276

Anyone claiming superior Israeli IQ has never been there.
Posted by: Polli | Sep 20 2024 10:06 utc | 268
The same goes for people who claim that Israeli IQ is substandard – they have never been there either.
Since you are so knowledgeable:
Have you ever been there?

Posted by: Martina | Sep 20 2024 11:19 utc | 277

Unfortunately, there is too much speculation and rushing around here instead of providing information about the fighting.
The Israelis are not idiots and suicides, they will have a plan to rock this thing.
The full fools are obviously with Hezbolla, how can they allow pagers to be bought from Taiwan and then distributed to end users without proper testing by specialists. The unfortunate victims of the terrible pager attack are mainly due to Hezbolla, because they did not prevent it.
Anyone who believes in a victory of this obviously sloppy organized military group over Israel also sends letters to Santa Claus.
My humble opinion.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Sep 20 2024 11:27 utc | 278

“Makes no strategic sense for Hezbollah to down the random jets bombing or scaring Beirut.”
Posted by: SOS | Sep 20 2024 7:24 utc | 233
If Hezbollah (or Syria) could shoot down an Israeli fighter, it would undoubtedly make strategic sense and more,
these fighters have been striking with impunity for too long.
It’s not because I condemn Israel’s actions and hope that the resistance will triumph that I’m going to ignore the facts: Gaza is in ruins and its population decimated, and now the zionist are going to attack Lebanese civilians too. There’s no reason to rejoice or invent stories to try and escape reality.
Rather than fantasizing about an invincible Hezbollah on forums, it seems more useful to me to take action on a daily basis, in real life, to do my utmost to denormalize the genocide of the Palestinians and the aggression against civilian populations in countries bordering the zionist colony.
BR

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Sep 20 2024 11:40 utc | 279

Several comments in this thread about why Iran or Hezbollah are waiting to respond and how weak it looks. What looks really weak is how Netanyahu has been talking about going north for at least six months but all he’s done is evacuate more settlements, drop a few bombs and commit a massive terrorist attack.

Posted by: Lex | Sep 20 2024 11:47 utc | 280

Let me try again.
I don’t think you can expect The Guardian to provide the listing you want to see. Their controllers view all those items as Israeli acting in self defense.
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Let me try again, Jerr.
Don’t put words in my mouth.
I don’t, and did not say, I expect the Guardian to provide any such listing.
You continue to miss the point with your long “explanations.”
Specifically, of my phrase “connect the dots” in connection with “remote detonations,” including “bringing down planes and buildings.
It’s a pretty simple point.
Even for simpletons.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 20 2024 11:57 utc | 281

Alexander Mercouris reports on a supposed meeting between Iran and Shia militias sometime prior to Israhell’selectronic device terrorism. According to him there was shouting and banging of fists on table. And threats by militias to walk out and it was only by great persuasion, militias agreed to accept Iran’s timetable (or lack thereof).. . .
Posted by: Lavieja | Sep 20 2024 6:42 utc | 220
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It seems reasonable to speculate that there could be dissension, confusion, and lack of a clear policy direction at the top in Iran after the death of President Raisi in a helicopter crash (dot connecting, anyone?) in May, and the election of Mazoud Pezeshkian.
It seems to be unclear how much “popular support” Pezeshkian has, or how good a politician he is. If he doesn’t have clear support domestically he may be cautious. Wisely or unwisely so.
One advantage that Netanyahu has is that he is a “strong leader”—aka a type of dictator, fuehrer, or “dear leader”—when compared to the situation in both Iran and the USA. Of course he does appear to be making massive “mistakes.”
Time will tell.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 20 2024 12:17 utc | 282

@Arch Bungle # 266
“I’d hate to think he thinks he has legal authority over the globe and Palestine specifically.”
Hmmm, well, I think he [Trump] does think that. While he was in office, he “gave” the Golan Heights to Israel. It belongs to Syria, but that’s a minor point apparently, easily ignored.
And Trump’s ‘Abraham Accords’ allows Israel to take over the West Bank and Gaza in a certain number of years. Thank god that thing seems to have died. Palestinians were never invited to those discussions, BTW.

Posted by: teri | Sep 20 2024 12:20 utc | 283

If, as it seems probable, that explosives can be added to electronic appliances and go off at a given signal, just imagine what could happen to the human body if a vaccine was inserted to the… oh wait!

Posted by: Paul Dale | Sep 20 2024 12:21 utc | 284

Huawei Mate XT
Best feature: Won’t blow up your head when you piss off a Zionist
Posted by: Menz | Sep 20 2024 10:28 utc | 273
Who would have thought that years of chip bans and embargoes, imprisoning old ladies, trade tariffs and other fuckery would have produced an (almost) completely trustworthy supply chain …
The destiny of Huawei is about to flip a complete 180 degrees from most sanctioned to most in demand.
As will the native, China-made components that go into their devices …
Thank you, Israel, Xie xie ni, motherfuckers.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 20 2024 12:28 utc | 285

Posted by: Martina | Sep 20 2024 11:19 utc | 278

The same goes for people who claim that Israeli IQ is substandard – they have never been there either.

No need to go there to know Jewish IQ is substandard.
It is 92, as presented in several data-aggregator webpages.
On top of that Jewish students rank low in PISA international tests of cognitive abilities.
Those results come from thousands Jews tested.
You seem to be a low-IQ Jewess pretending to be German but with a 92 IQ you can understand the meaning of statistics for large sample sizes, don’t you?

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 20 2024 12:40 utc | 286

I’ve been buying Chinese for a long time
but how can one seriously think that zionists would be incapable of trapping phones because they were originally produced in China?
look at recent events

Posted by: Tak-Tik | Sep 20 2024 12:48 utc | 287

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 8:41 utc | 257
Lol.
Superior jewish IQ?
It is 92, substandard, from testing thousands of jews and jewesses in Israel.
Plus juvenile jews score poor in international PISA tests.
And the stupidest of all jews have more offspring than non-substandar jews and jewesses, so jews will become dumber with time.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 20 2024 13:07 utc | 288

Rami Mortada, Lebanon’s ambassador to the UK, warned that his country’s armed forces — who are trained by the British — would not “stand idly” by and watch if Israel were to put boots on the ground or “mount a heavy aerial attack”.
https://www.thetimes.com/world/israel-hamas-war/article/israeli-ground-invasion-lebanese-diplomat-warning-6g02228sw

Posted by: Rhymerez | Sep 20 2024 13:09 utc | 289

Naim Qassem, Hezbollah #2 man, was just executed in Beirut. By the “low IQ” Israelis. Oopsie. Nasrallah is alive at the whim of IDF. But not to worry, we’re sure he will give another dumb speech. Clown.

Posted by: Eli Kopter | Sep 20 2024 13:14 utc | 290

Drone strike on apartment building in Beirut.
https://x.com/warmonitors/status/1837114297589055880/mediaviewer

Posted by: Mary | Sep 20 2024 13:26 utc | 291

Those at the bar have decided who isn’t trolling a long time ago. The rest stand out…really no point trolling here.
Bombing in Beirut.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2024 13:27 utc | 292

Gaza News Now
“Enemy media – The target of the Israeli attack is Hezbollah military commander Ibrahim Aqil”
“Five children killed”

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 20 2024 13:32 utc | 293

I have to say, as a non ideological human observing events, that Israel is committing outrageous and horrifying crimes against humanity while pretending to be acting virtuously. Starvation sieges, indiscriminate bombing, deliberate destruction of infrastructure, use of torture camps, sexual assault..its the kind of butchers bill only an actual psychopath could countenance.
It’s a shameful, bloody spectacle. Religious supremacists murdering people for living on land they want to steal, and not even having the nerve to admit it. Westerners who speak out of conscience are suppressed by their governments and compliant media. The crimes of Israel surpass those of Nazi Germany, and the ending of the country will be similar.
Shame on you, terrorist Israel. You are not welcome in the fraternity of nations. History will not be kind to your bloody minded populace. And you do not speak for world Jewry, which you have appropriated for yourself as a cloak to shield your crimes. You speak only for Israelis.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Sep 20 2024 13:41 utc | 294

Anyone who believes in a victory of this obviously sloppy organized military group over Israel also sends letters to Santa Claus.
My humble opinion.
Posted by: guest from franconia | Sep 20 2024 11:27 utc | 279
Maybe because they’ve done it before genius./s

Posted by: Archetypex | Sep 20 2024 13:42 utc | 295

SOS@234….yes, more restraint, great idea….be like watching your kids die from starvation while your neighbor steals food from your garden. Perhaps if they wait long enough they can field a walker battalion.
Anyone who feels waiting till the time is right, might reconsider once their balls and fingers have be blown off…..restraint, sure.
Take for instance all the top level members of the Apartheid State that have been targeted by assassinations….sorry, wrong play book.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 20 2024 13:47 utc | 296

I haven’t read though this open Palestine thread.
It seems the battery itself had been designed as a self contained bomb complete with triggering device that detonated the bomb when receiving the signal. No need to modify the device in any way, simply replace the battery.
The battery design. Reducing actual battery size to make room for 3 grams or so of PETN will reduce the batteries power. very noticeable in shortened usage time and easily detected with normal battery measuring instruments. A batteries power is dependent on the oxides used in the polymer electrolyte. Changing this could also bring the battery back to it proper power making the change in battery size undetectable.
By adding specific oxides to increase the power of the smaller battery, the fuel oxygen ratio could also be brought to a balanced mix and designed to be a balanced mix.
Most modern explosives require a shock to detonate, not just heat or flame. I suspect the electrolyte is similar, especially if designed as and explosive. If this is the case, then the detonation of the electrolyte would add to the blast effect of the tiny amount of explosive in the self contained battery bomb.
Several reports of pagers heating before they detonated. this would ensure the oxides were thoroughly mixed with the polymer during a discharge further increasing the efficiency of the electrolyte as an explosive.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 20 2024 13:55 utc | 297

Ever notice how humans of the smallest stature use IQ as a measurement of their worth…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 20 2024 13:59 utc | 298

It seems the sionists have started the demolition of the South Beirut suburb, they have flattened a high rise building with a “high precision surgical strike” (as the child-murderers like to say( consisting in a 1 Tn bomb, and damaging a lot of other buildings and cars.
Gaza 2.0
Hezb should continue depleting the Iron Dome with thousands of dummy and cheap rockets to find the allocation of the batteries and attack them with drones, then after “softing” the murderer`s AA system start to bomb the IAF airports and bases day and night to avoid the planes using them.
After that I suppose the US + lapdogs (UK) will step in and then other actors should step-in (Iran + Russia + China)

Posted by: Dave | Sep 20 2024 14:00 utc | 299

Its always amazing how the western MSM press whether print or electronic gives a free pass to IDF war crimes and atrocities………..
– Mideaval siege conditions – OK
– Mass starvation of civilians – OK
– Air attacks on churches, mosques – OK
– Targeting for execution all Palestinian Gaza civil servants – OK
– Destroying UN schools and food aid centers – OK
– Surrounding, raiding and demolishing hospitals – OK
– Murdering patients, doctors, nurses, EMT’s, firefighters, ambulance drivers – OK
– Tracking and killing foreign food aid volunteers – OK
– Murdering the observant Muslims and Christians on the way to services – OK
– Destroying 60 % of Gaza homes and businesses – OK
– Random sniper killings of civilians looking for food and water – OK
– Pushing hundreds of thousands of starving civilians into death marches where they can be murdered pro forma for stepping out of line ala the Bataan Death March – OK
All the Israelis have to do is throw the holocaust card and as far as the western press is concerned they are good to go for any and all atrocities and war crimes………….

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 20 2024 14:02 utc | 300