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September 15, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-221

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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“This morning we are on the brink of a serious and uncontrollable deterioration, under extremely difficult opening conditions, when the government is run by a clearly incompetent person, who knowingly endangers national security, destroys the present and destroys the future of all of us, solely for his survival in power and evading the law Justice for his multiple crimes and misdeeds, before and after 7/10.”
Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 15 2024 15:36 utc | 11
Great post,thanks-but you are off on the above.
Biden never was and isn’t the ‘decider’ in the US.
As we have seen Sullivan (NSC) over ruled the myopic Blinken on Friday not allowing the Brits to let Ukraine use the Storm Shadows to hit greater Russia.
Hence, Sullivan, at this time, is the ‘messenger boy’ for the City of London where the West is controlled.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 16 2024 13:13 utc | 101

Posted by: canuck | Sep 16 2024 13:13 utc | 102
1st off, Eran Etzion’s words, not mine (perhaps I should have done a better job formatting).
2nd, he was referring to Netanyahu, not Biden.
It is difficult to keep track of all the dangerous idiots making the world less safe for everybody…

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 16 2024 13:40 utc | 102

Photos: Triplet babies separated from mother in Gaza as Israel denies permits
Palestinian triplets from the al-Bayouk family were born prematurely and have been separated from their mother, Hanan, who was forced to leave them at a hospital in Jerusalem when her Israeli-issued permit expired before October 7.
Since the war began on that date, Israel has not been issuing permits for Gaza residents to visit Jerusalem, resulting in the separation of Hanan from her three girls.
In the pictures below, nurses at Makassed Hospital in occupied East Jerusalem are seen showing the babies to Hanan during a video call.- Al Jazeera live feed
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Can’t copy the photos, but they are cute babies. Babies who only met their mother the one time – at their birth – because Israel won’t let the mother out of Gaza.

Posted by: teri | Sep 16 2024 16:27 utc | 103

…. News of another Merkava knocked out in Rafah (Matt at the Anti-Empire project on YouTube claims and some other news aggregators).
@Exile – *maybe* time to bump your Merkava total?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 16 2024 11:06 utc…….
There was a video of that strike posted in the daily round up I post daily. They used simple and little RPGs. The first RPG was fired directly at the frontal armor. In the video it was unclear where the second RPG struck.
Soooo I’m treating as damaged but not “destroyed”
What’s significant is 1) the IDF has redeployed MBTs in Gaza and 2) the Merkava in the video was sitting all by its lonesome. Unsupported by Infantry.
I doubt we’ll see another Rafeh Turkey shoot again where dozens of Merkavas were “destroyed” but if the IDF has brought MBTs back into range of the underground fortress the 210 tally will increase.
The IDF is hopeless.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 16 2024 19:07 utc | 104

I am no expert, but I don’t think that DNA is transferred without sexual intercourse.
Posted by: Ed | Sep 16 2024 1:48 utc | 72
Welcome to CRISPER and mRNA gene therapy. Mind you that’s a big change…
Don’t worry, it’s for your own good.
Maybe give it 20 years; early days.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 16 2024 19:59 utc | 105

“The hypersonic missile?
The Houthis released some footage of the launch. Can anyone identify it? Is it an existing Russian or Iranian missile? Or is it something new?
I have to say that I would be surprised if Yemen had the capability to develop a hypersonic missile in house…”
Posted by: team10tim | Sep 16 2024 3:47 utc | 84
They announced it was a new design with the video.
Danny Haiphong’s discussion:
https://youtu.be/KdYid20KpcY?si=ZoNrNbJ0HC9LVhf9
His math is wrong. It travels at mach 8as discussed.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Sep 16 2024 20:17 utc | 106

https://x.com/caitoz/status/1835421095975162266
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
Everything Israel has done since October 7 are things it was doing before October 7.
Raping. Torturing. Stealing. Siege warfare. Killing kids with snipers. Murdering journalists and healthcare workers.
Israel’s actions before and since October 7 show you why October 7 happened.
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1835621817047818674
Tiberius @ecomarxi
The list of known Palestinian babies under 1 years old that Israel has murdered — which is only a fraction of the real number — takes 14 pages to list. Fourteen pages of babies under 1. This is a genocide under every meaningful definition, and if you are silent you are complicit.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 16 2024 20:48 utc | 107

Of possible interest to barflies: RSH has a new set of writings up on the scenarios for war in the ME:
https://richardstevenhack.substack.com/
https://richardstevenhack.substack.com/p/armageddon-in-the-middle-east-part-a9a
https://richardstevenhack.substack.com/p/armageddon-in-the-middle-east-part

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 16 2024 21:56 utc | 108

Hidden Meanings of Sinwar’s Letter – Resistance Roundup – Day 346
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/hidden-meanings-of-sinwars-letter-resistance-roundup-day-346/
Comment – Al Qassrm radio silence. Al-Quds firefights in West Bank ( D9 destroyed by Landmine ) Lebanese captured a IDF drone

Posted by: Exile | Sep 17 2024 1:06 utc | 109

for the record
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1834993250035253276
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
The way Israel is destroying Palestinian food sovereignty will be studied not only as a shocking example of genocidal conduct, but also as a textbook case of sadistic disrespect for human life & dignity.
Among the many UN Independent Experts who have denounced the genocide in Gaza, Professor @MichaelFakhri has been one of the most sensitive & effective. Grazie Michael. Your report is for the ages.
https://x.com/MichaelFakhri/status/1834977765885419559
Michael Fakhri @MichaelFakhri
Words can’t capture aspects of the horror of Palestinian life during the current starvation campaign by Isr. Nor do words alone adequately provide a vision for a better future for Palestinians & the world.
➡️Illustrations from my newest report: https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/issues/food/2024-08-27-visuals-palestinian-people-food-sovereignty.pdf
https://x.com/MichaelFakhri/status/1832874562238693635
Michael Fakhri @MichaelFakhri
How was Isr. able to starve 2.3 million Palestinians in Gaza at unprecedented speed and intensity?
I answer this question in my new report. I’ll be discussing my report with the @UN
General Assembly on Friday, October 18.
https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/gen/n24/212/30/pdf/n2421230.pdf

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 17 2024 3:55 utc | 110

Re: food starvation etc.
We can hope and pray to start seeing consensus building among the UNGA for accountability as this year‘s session gets under way. It won‘t happen quickly but it will happen

Posted by: Exile | Sep 17 2024 5:27 utc | 111

In the Great White North the lobby never sleeps…
“In Vancouver Police Chief Palmer meets with ex-commander of Israeli assassination squad tasked with extrajudicial killing of Palestinians, Ben Givr’s pick for Police Chief of Israel..”
https://x.com/Mivasair/status/1835873289878573338
“A blatantly anti-Israel resolution that would bring into force a hugely problematic International Court of Justice advisory opinion that specifically targets Israel is being voted on this Wednesday at the UN General Assembly. We need you to act fast!”
https://x.com/CIJAinfo/status/1835856734688035042
Canada-Israel: Settler states united in settler-colonialism, usurpation and genocide.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 17 2024 8:36 utc | 112

ominous
Netanyahu also apparently threatened to fire Defense Secretary Gallant for his lack of approval of the plan to attack and invade southern Lebanon, a fool’s errand that may well burn down the entire Middle East
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1835895146602172868
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Last night, after a 3-hour meeting, #Israel’s security cabinet, headed by @Netanyahu, approved all war plans for #Lebanon to “ensure the return” of all settlers to the northern front. The timing of the execution of these plans was not disclosed.
Israel’s military command proposes to “occupy part of southern Lebanon to create a buffer zone” when the #US is engaged in the presidential election campaign. This means that a real war may be difficult to avoid.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 17 2024 9:24 utc | 113

michaelj72
Israel’s military command proposes to “occupy part of southern Lebanon to create a buffer zone” when the #US is engaged in the presidential election campaign. This means that a real war may be difficult to avoid.
………….
A reminder the zionists did a similar thing in 2008 especially between the Nov election and Obama’s inauguration when they really ramped up the violence and the deaths. They also had the cover of the GFC at it’s worst as well.
Then they gave Obama the Nobel Peace Prize … while Israel literally got away with murder. At that time next to no one gave a fuck or knew about it. Spun as necessary across the global media …. Russia / China said jack shit about it. No one cared, it was as bad as now.
I have little respect for the johnny come lately’s crocodile tears how bad it is 16 years later. (but still, better late than never)
I spoke up back then got abused across the board, ostracized, and lost dozens of ‘friends’ over it…. wrote copious emails to govt ministers all for naught.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 17 2024 9:44 utc | 114

It’s as if, for MoA, there isn’t a genocide being continued on right now.
Like every other time, this one doesn’t matter either.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 17 2024 9:47 utc | 115

The UN is practically useless – maybe worse than that. The best they have to offer is to demand an end to Israeli occupation of Palestine “within 12 months”. The Palestinians will all be dead by that time, which may be the UN’s intent. Furthermore, they took out the wording that called for UN member states to halt arms exports to Israel. WTF is the use of this piece of watered-down bullshit?
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The UN General Assembly is set to debate a push by the Palestinians to formally demand an end to the Israeli occupation within 12 months.
The text, which has faced fierce criticism from Israel, is based around an advisory opinion from the International Court of Justice calling Israel’s occupation since 1967 “unlawful”.
The draft resolution “demands” the withdrawal of Israeli forces from the Palestinian territories, a halt to new settlements, the return of seized land and property, and the possibility of return for displaced Palestinians.
A paragraph calling on member states to halt arms exports to Israel was removed from the draft text during negotiations.
The draft is due to be voted on late on Tuesday or on Wednesday.
– Al Jazeera live blog
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Posted by: teri | Sep 17 2024 10:20 utc | 116

Yo! Hasbarats.
How you hanging???
Upside down by your feet, or by your necks?
That’s the choice for you MoFo’s now. You took babies from the mother! Triplets.
That’s made me extra angry today so have some spleen.
The AfroAmericans , that are a very large proportion of US naval crews now, don’t want to die for your sorry pink racist ziofascist shitholes. They never really cared for your ‘pure bred’ gammon nose job ‘girls’, who aren’t even as funny as they think and not at all sexy except as lovers of unskinned BBC’s; which they can’t ever get enough of once they taste it …
The mutiny’s are bubbling as they seat as ducks, waiting for the Houthi judgements, as be your disposable human shields. Like the Ukrops being minced.
The Truth is undeniable to the deluded patriots. It ain’t worth being a Ziofascists stooge any more.
The Anglo European ziofascist aristos with their Old Khazar shapeshifter Masters aren’t getting much traction to reinvade The Levant, as some modern Hail Mary Christian Crusaders.
Our English arsewipes being ordered to take direct control of Lebanon!
As if we have an outstanding obligation under the fake contract of Balfour – no one is buying that.
Not even the AngloIndian satraps and not even the fake ottoman can sale it to the long deluded Turks !
Who are going to be the new Crusaders??
Some sub Saharan’s recruited and trained by ukropian ziofascists and natzio heads and traitors to the Western morons? Some uighers deluded head choppers. Isis, Aq, some gammon cooked minded bubba red necks that hate ‘commies’ and expect eschatological nonsense?
Listen Hasbarats, fake judaeo worshippers, imperilist colonialists who believe in the promised slaves and money by your ancient shapeshifter Kings.
Your zionazi owners are running around trying to fake it, still expecting to make it there as they are in your ancient khazar kingdoms hoping to ‘own’ Ukraine and Crimea.
Just as did a hundred years ago with that cheat ‘contract’ iou Balfour scam upon the Europeans/ Brits/5 eyes who have been dying forever for such Money Master ShapeShiffters for a millenia.
‘They mustered from every part ; Turks, Kurds, Syrians, Arabs, Alans, Cumans, Qipchaks, Idumaens, Turcomans, Bedouins, Saracens, Egyptians, and those who dwell in the land of Lebanon, and they camped in a place which is called Rasseleme, which means ‘the head of the waters’. Recognising the weakness of the Christians, Saladin sent seven thousand of his bravest men to lay waste the land of Galilee.’
https://ims.leeds.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2019/02/Conquest-of-the-Holy-Land.pdf
Dots…. Of history. Join them if you dare!
History if not exactly repeating is chiming but this time the Real Orthodox Christians are also on their side against the fake Talmudic Khazar ‘converts’. Because they destroyed that fake Christianity , a slave religion, of the Collective Waste which they always despised. It is now as dead as the Flat Earth dodo.
But you must flee little stinky mother fucking hasbarats , because you sure ain’t brave enough to die like real civilised humans. Never were. Never will be. Shapeshifters are like that. Always have been. Yup I’m angry and have seen even more dead children, mothers and Gazan genocide today, so do not apologise for cussing.
From the River to the Sea.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 17 2024 12:22 utc | 117

🇱🇧🇮🇱⚡️- Lebanese media is reporting that Israel was able to “hack” the portable pagers and radios that Hezbollah uses for internal communications, causing the batteries to explode, simultaneously killing and injuring multiple Hezbollah members.

Posted by: Roberto | Sep 17 2024 13:14 utc | 118

It’s as if, for MoA, there isn’t a genocide being continued on right now.
Re Escobar | Sep 17 2024 9:47 utc | 116
sad to say, you have a pretty valid point there, Escobar
damn.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 17 2024 13:31 utc | 119

Escobar: I don’t understand, neither for me nor for others here.
Nobody can hold their breath for eleven months, when one is not dead one has to try to live.
Many here have written what was painfully clear months and months ago. I realize it amounts to very little but in my case at least I can’t actually do much more then voice my disgust. Some (all?) do whatever they think is right.
But no, it has not changed much when those with power (at least publicly —Shoigu is in Iran again right now) seem to do little but shuffle around endlessly.
What do you want us to do Escobar? I think this is a responsive audience for good suggestions.
I am not suggesting that you should answer the following, on the contrary you most likely shouldn’t but: do you have means? Are you recruiting? How to avoid entrapment? Can you do it on your own? Do you have a target of opportunity?
I don’t mind writing this even if it is nothing but a single grain of sand in the surveillance systems and sends them sniffing again. We all have files with all sorts of labels, everyone here is automatically “associated” even though we are all strangers (well, everyone but the cubicle trolls). Files, metadata, and graphs.
Things people already do is BDS (for someone like me that is nothing more than checking where food and medicine is produced), protesting, talking, and writing, and maybe also praying and hoping and remembering.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 17 2024 18:25 utc | 120

Sunny Runny Burger
Hi, I’m way out of ideas on what to do Sunny. I did what I could for as long as I could, now I must leave to others and simply wish the sane decent people well and given them my blessings. I do believe though the only long term solution is the defeat and destruction of the United States of America. And every zionist must be physically removed from Palestine and never allowed to return even for a weekend.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 18 2024 3:47 utc | 121

Bob Rae: Canada’s UN Ambassador For Israel
https://x.com/mbueckert/status/183644068546707910
“Bob Rae says Canada cannot support the UN resolution because it ‘contains language that aligns with boycott, divestment, sanctions, which Canada firmly opposes.’ A good way to signal that this government will never take any meaningful action to end Israeli impunity.”
Bob Rae Elected To Lead International Development Body
https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/bob-rae-elected-to-lead-un-international-development-body-1.6977528
“Bob Rae, Canada’s ambassador to the United Nations will head the UN’s Economic and Social Council…”
Bob Rae:
https://yvesengler.com/tag/bob-rae

Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 19 2024 0:45 utc | 122

RT – Lebanon pager attack ‘a monstrous act of terrorism’ – Moscow
The perpetrators must be held accountable for the apparent attempt to trigger a major war, Russian officials have said
“This was a monstrous act of terrorism, monstrous in its cynicism and its scale, considering the large number of victims,” Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said on Wednesday.
A separate statement by the ministry said that Moscow considers the mass detonations to be “the latest act of hybrid warfare against Lebanon,” adding that “the masterminds of this high-tech attack were seeking to ignite large-scale armed confrontation with the goal of triggering a major war in the Middle East.”
The ministry did not assign blame to any particular party, but called for a thorough investigation.
“All people responsible… must be held accountable, so that this new act of terrorism is not ‘swept under the rug’ the way the Western nations want to steer the investigation of the explosions at the Nord Stream gas pipelines,” it added.
https://www.swentr.site/russia/604214-moscow-lebanon-pagers-terrorism/
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What will Russia do besides Vote? I expect nothing at all. Russia talks loud, does nothing for the Palestinians or Lebanese. And it’s questionable how Syria ended up as well.
The UN General Assembly (UNGA) passed a non-binding resolution on Wednesday demanding an end to Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory within the next 12 months …..
India Abstains Vote On UNGA Resolution To End Israeli Occupation Of Palestine
SAUDI – There can be no normalization of relations between Riyadh and West Jerusalem without the establishment of an independent Palestinian state, Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman has announced.
The prince has previously said that US-backed talks between Saudi Arabia and Israel were close to a solution, before the Gaza conflict broke out last October.
“The kingdom will not stop its tireless work towards the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with East Jerusalem as its capital, and we affirm that the kingdom will not establish diplomatic relations with Israel without that,” bin Salman said on Wednesday, according to Reuters.
He also condemned the “crimes of the Israeli occupation” against the Palestinian people.
https://www.swentr.site/news/604250-saudi-arabia-israel-relations/
Votes NO
Israel
Argentina
Czechia
Fiji
Hungary
Malawi
Micronesia
Nauru
Papua New Guinea
Paraguay
Palau
Tonga
Tuvalu
USA
UK (abstained)
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/09/1154496
What sell outs those Pacific island nations are — after being colonized themselves. $$$$$ Talks.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 19 2024 5:54 utc | 123

(copy from hand waving pager danger thread)
Something more serious and note worthy
Full text of UN resolution passed on Wednesday with 2/3s majority
https://documents.un.org/doc/undoc/ltd/n24/266/48/pdf/n2426648.pdf
Posted by: Exile | Sep 19 2024 4:04 utc | 539
Read it, it is as weak as watered down piss.
It only once mentions the word “genocide” and in doing so did NOT accuse of intentionally perpetrating such a thing or even by accident.
1/3 of nations did not support it.
No obligations on any one to act to stop it.
2. Demands that Israel brings to an end without delay its unlawful presence
in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, which constitutes a wrongful act of a continuing
character entailing its international responsibility, and do so no later than 12 months
from the adoption of the present resolution;
Ooooh waaah, I was threatened more than that at primary school for misbehaving.
The Document is shit.
The Vote is shit.
UNGA is shit as are all nations within it.
Two-Faced Fork-Tonged Gutless Immoral Cowards one and all.
Now back to the insidious chatter about “pagers” and other useless matters.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 19 2024 6:14 utc | 124

RT Lebanon is at war – PM
The detonation of electronic devices across the country is an indescribable crime, Najib Mikati has said
On Tuesday, pagers used by members of the Lebanese armed group Hezbollah detonated simultaneously, killing 12 people and wounding nearly 3,000, according to the health authorities. Another 20 people lost their lives and 450 others were injured the following day when thousands of other electronic devices, including walkie-talkies, laptops, and radios, blew up.
Hezbollah and the government in Beirut have blamed Israel for the attacks. The Jewish state has neither confirmed nor denied responsibility. Media reports have claimed that the Israeli secret service, Mossad, rigged thousands of electronic devices with small explosive charges, which were triggered via a remote signal.
Mikati was visiting a hospital where victims of the first wave of explosions were being treated when reports of more detonations came in on Wednesday, according to the prime minister’s office.
“This mass crime… against defenseless people in their homes, who are being killed in this way, is indescribable,” Mikati told journalists.
He insisted that Lebanon is in a state of war with Israel. “This war started about 11 months ago and it is affecting our people in the south where their homes are being destroyed,” he said.
Mikati was referring to regular exchanges of fire between Hezbollah and the Israeli military on the border, as well as the Jewish state’s airstrikes into Lebanese territory which started after the incursion into Israel by the Palestinian armed group Hamas on October 7 last year.
The prime minister again blamed Israel for the explosions of electronic devices, claiming that the Jewish state’s “whole history over the past 75 years has been criminal.”
“We are facing an enemy that disregards all international and humanitarian laws, and the question is – can this continue? Where is the UN, whose primary mission is to distribute peace?” Mikati asked.
He added that he had instructed Lebanese Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib to ensure that the attacks on the country are addressed by the UN Security Council.

Following the second wave of electronic blasts on Wednesday, Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said that “a new phase” of the country’s almost year-long war was beginning, with the focus shifting from Hamas in Gaza to Hezbollah in Lebanon.
“The center of gravity is moving north. We are diverting forces, resources, and energy toward the north,” Gallant told Israeli troops.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 19 2024 10:48 utc | 125

‘Bob Rae:
https://yvesengler.com/tag/bob-rae
Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 19 2024 0:45 utc | 123
Bob Rae is a complete asshole!!

Posted by: canuck | Sep 19 2024 11:46 utc | 126