Israel recruits African refugees for Gaza operations in exchange for settled status

(excerpt) Israel is recruiting African refugees for “life-threatening” operations in Gaza in exchange for settled status in the country, sources have revealed.
Defence officials told Haaretz that the project was being conducted under the guidance of legal advisers from the defence establishment in an organised manner.
There are approximately 30,000 African asylum seekers in Israel. They have faced growing pressure from anti-immigrant politicians, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who regularly refers to them as “infiltrators”.
One man interviewed by Haaretz, who ultimately chose not to enlist, recounted being approached by a security official to join the war effort. The official explained that after a two-week training period, he would be deployed alongside other asylum seekers.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-recruiting-african-refugees-life-threatening-operations-gaza

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 14:38 utc | 3

Exile@1438
Curious about the ethnic and religious identities of these “African Exiles”.
Whaat really sets the bells to ringing and buzzers blaring is that they would get a “whole” two weeks of training before being sent into the slaughterhouse. That’s exactly the same project that Zelensky has with the newly captured “recruits” in Ukraine.
Sheep to the slaughter by means of blackmailing due to their tenuous status in the Zionist state. My concern is whether these Africans are Ethopian Jews, discriminated against in part due to their dark skin and also tellingly, because their approach to Judaism is both ancient and not fully in accord with Talmudic dictates.
A kill two birds with one stone strategy?

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 15 2024 14:48 utc | 5

What is Occupied Palestine’s response going to be to the Ansar Allah missile striking deep into their occupied land?
Is the bully going to realize that its way of life is not working for others?
Is it going to suspend genocide for the US elections?
The shit show continues until it doesn’t.
I was with about 25 others standing for Palestine in front of the local court house yesterday. Nothing much to report…some positive and some negative with the rest working hard not to notice.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 15 2024 15:21 utc | 7

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 15 2024 15:21 utc | 7
Israel isn’t suspending anything for the US elections.
If anything, they’ll turn up the Genocide dial to “eleven.”
Remember that Bibi shat all over Biden and Blinkens fraudulent ceasefire proposal, then did a victory dance in the end zone, simulating rubbing their faces in crap-stained toilet paper!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Sep 15 2024 15:27 utc | 9

Relatively recent X post from former diplomat Eran Etzion summarizes Israel’s precarious (self-induced) position…
@eranetzion
https://x.com/eranetzion/status/1818937778157044180
300 days to the war – summary of the assessment of the situation –
1. Israel, even after the failures of the ship and Shukur, is at a severe, multidimensional strategic disadvantage. political-strategic, security, legal, moral, economic.
2. The gap between reality and the perception of reality, among significant sections of the Israeli public, and among most members of the government and the coalition – is a huge and extremely dangerous gap.
3. Netanyahu, who understands well the dimensions of the failure and is not detached from reality, decided to increase the amount of the bet. He ignites an all-out regional war, forces Iran to be drawn into it directly, hopes to force the US to be drawn into it as well, and has no ability to shape the results of this war.
4. The American administration is at a point of historical weakness, the result of an accumulation of ‘processes’ and unfortunate circumstances.
5. Europe is focused on the war in Ukraine, the Russian threat and the threat of the Trump administration 2.0.
6. Russia and China recognize an opportunity to continue to erode the world order and American hegemony, both through the war in Ukraine, and through the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and a regional war in the Middle East at the worst possible time for the United States.
7. Iran is in a very good position. It has become a vital link in the Russian-Chinese-CPK axis, and it has proven that the “Ring of Fire” model through proxies works perfectly, and Israel has no answer to it. The countermeasures in Tehran do indeed embarrass it severely, but it will respond to it, and it is not a game changer at the strategic level.
8. The American attempt to form an anti-Iranian coalition, which on the eve of 7/10 seemed to be ripening (the American-Saudi defense agreement, normalization with Israel, “NATO Middle East”); was actually thwarted by Sinauer’s decisive strategic move, In my opinion, in significant Iranian involvement, in the 7/10 attack, in the entry of Hezbollah and the Houthis into the campaign, and in the conduct of a successful war of attrition against Israel.
9. It is true that this coalition worked well on “the night of the missiles” and proved its potential, and it is hoped that in the coming days and weeks it will also help Israel deal with the expected Iranian reaction, which will probably be multi-arena. But Netanyahu’s refusal to accept the Biden outline already many months ago thwarted the big move, prevented Israel from a historic strategic achievement, and dug us a huge hole that will be very difficult to get out of.
10. This morning we are on the brink of a serious and uncontrollable deterioration, under extremely difficult opening conditions, when the government is run by a clearly incompetent person, who knowingly endangers national security, destroys the present and destroys the future of all of us, solely for his survival in power and evading the law Justice for his multiple crimes and misdeeds, before and after 7/10.
The government consists of a collection of impersonalists, with a diverse composition of messiahs, dodgers, corrupt, cowards and opportunists. The decision-making mechanisms are paralyzed and dysfunctional. The gatekeepers are deterred and weakened.
11. The top of the IDF and the security system are at a loss. They understand the situation and the gravity of the situation very well, but are afraid to take a position in public, and Netanyahu recognizes their weakness and exploits it.
12. Let’s say this in the sharpest way – in a regional war in the current context and timing, Israel will not win. under no circumstances. Israel is much more vulnerable than any of its enemies, and certainly from the “strangle ring” coalition as a collective.
The absorption capacity of the Houthis, of Hezbollah and Lebanon, and certainly of Iran, is much greater than that of Israel. A country small in its territory and population, modern, Western, immersed up to its neck in a 300-day war in which it is not winning, should not initiate a more extensive war with stronger enemies than Hamas. A country that all its friends demand from it to stop the war and go to an agreement for the release of hostages and a cease-fire, should not reject these proposals with contempt, and expect overwhelming support in the form of arms shipments, a veto in the UN, and the stopping of the war under conditions favorable to Israel. This will not happen.
A country whose economy is already in the worst crisis since 1973, should not raise the stakes and burden the economy with another unbearably heavy burden. A country whose reserve forces are worn out, and whose regular army is damaged, should not send them into a more difficult war without being able to end it on good terms.
And of course, a country where only a very specific part of its population bears the burden, and this part is mostly not represented in the government; A government that increases the burden on that part, and continues to allow the evasion and inaction of the parts it represents; A government that has no public legitimacy, that 70% and more demand its resignation in disgrace, that has demonstrated incompetence and abuse of office since its inception, such a government cannot expand the war.
13. All the jingoists (war mongers) in the government, the media, the networks and the public are required to answer one question – what is the realistic end state of the regional war that you encourage? What does the agreement that will end the war with Lebanon look like? What does the agreement that will end the war with Iran look like? After all, you don’t even have a convincing answer for the “day after” in Gaza, which is the simplest, smallest and weakest of all these arenas…
The truth is that none of them have any answer or even the edge of an answer. Israel cannot “overcome” Iran alone. It outnumbers us by a lot. This is even greater than the US, not theoretically but practically, see the Iraq entry. Israel cannot even “overcome” Hezbollah, nor reliably “remove the threat” for many years. Worse, the US in its current weakness, and in the state of its relations With Russia and China, it will be very difficult for Israel to close this war. It will need not only Iranian consent – which of course will come with a heavy price tag – but also Russian and Chinese consent, and these two powers have no interest in shortening the campaign. on the contrary. They have an interest in prolonging it, exposing the short-handedness of the US, which “is not even capable of restraining Israel”, benefiting (Iran and Russia, not China) from the rise in oil prices and its expected effect on the elections in the US, and in general tilting the balance even more The global power in their direction.
This means that Israel could degenerate into very long months of war of an intensity it has never experienced, and I will spare more detailed descriptions here.
14. All studios, commentators and media were supposed to deal with all of this, and only this. But they are conducted – not all and not all the time, but most of them – in a kind of parallel universe. In this universe, Israel only has to decide, to be “offensive”, and then in a very short time (weeks? months?) Hezbollah will kneel before us, Iran will kiss Netanyahu’s ring, and the Hutim will ask to convert. Even experienced people, who were supposed to be sober, if not before then after the last 300 days, mutter “we have no choice, we must remove the threat, even if the price will be heavy”. Well, the price will be prohibitive, and the threat will not be removed.
15. My friend Aron Miller, the former State Department official, who together and separately plowed the fields of peace processes in the Middle East for decades, wrote a sad, sober and difficult tweet yesterday –
Whether we end up in a regional war, the future seems pretty clear: Seemingly never-ending, grinding wars of attrition between Israel and Iran and its proxies with few if any off-ramps and prospects for enduring de-escalation.
This black future, what Naftali Bennett called “Middle Eastern Sparta”, what Netanyahu called “life on the sword”, what the Smotriches and their rabbis call “our most beautiful days”, what the evangelicals call “the war of Gog and Magog” after which all Jews will see the light And they will become Christians, this future is what Netanyahu and the members of the government of destruction are cooking for us.
16. So whoever believes that this is a “war without choice”, whoever thinks that this whole analysis is wrong, is welcome to propose an alternative analysis and argue. Those who understand the seriousness of the situation, are required not to put up with it but to fight against its perpetrators. Netanyahu and the government do not have a mandate to expand the war. They have the right to think that this is the necessary move, and that they are the ones suitable to lead it. But they must go to the people and receive their faith in this way of theirs and in them as its leader. According to all the polls, the majority of the people are not with them, but demand the signing of a deal, the end of the war and going to the elections.
17. A competent government would take advantage of the setbacks to turn to the US, Egypt, Qatar and the entire international community and say – we are interested in signing the deal. Now. Help us bring Hamas to the table, help us restore Gaza and build an effective and pragmatic Palestinian government, help us To build a new regional order, based on the Biden plan, we are all in.
18. PS – There is much more to be said about the internal arena, about the rampant messianic-political coup, about the wave of departure from the country of our good sons, our daughters, their sons and daughters, about the zeros of the “opposition”, but Enough said and also Enough sad.

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 15 2024 15:36 utc | 11

Barflies – close read what farm ecologist posted above from Eran Etzion. And re-read again. Profound

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 15:47 utc | 13

4 laguerre.
Saudi has significant patriot assets that were bolstered in august 2022. Some were pulled in sept 2021 but that decision was reversed, as ansarallah took out oil facilities. These are manned by USA troops at the behest of the kingdom. Not that they had any chance of catching a hypersonic. The message was sent loud and clear. The empire is naked

Posted by: Hankster | Sep 15 2024 15:54 utc | 15

Israel is steadily clearing Jewish land of the Paleshitian squatters who are illegally occupying it.
Europe and America can have the refugees since you care about them so much!
I hope you enjoy the higher taxes and “cultural enrichment”!
Heheheh…

Posted by: Bye Bye Palestine! | Sep 15 2024 16:05 utc | 17

Yemen also hit Haifa plus a couple of genocider linked ships offshore a while ago.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 16:20 utc | 19

Israel is steadily clearing Jewish land of the Paleshitian squatters who are illegally occupying it.
Posted by: Bye Bye Palestine! | Sep 15 2024 16:05 utc | 17
… And replacing it with African refugees it seems.
You’re going to need them to breed a new Jewish race once all your breeding age males have their balls blown off in Gaza.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2024 16:27 utc | 21

it has to be noted that the likes of Meta, Youtube, Google, Wikipedia, Instagram, WhatsApp Threads, etc; and a plethora of VPN companies – all employ ex-Unit 8200 personnel.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 15 2024 15:23 utc | 8
As does the UK Labour party. Assaf Kaplan, formerly an intelligence analyst in Unit 8200, was appointed by Starmer as “social organizing manager for the Labour Party” – which seems to be basically trawling through party members social media in the hope of finding anything vaguely ‘anti-semitic’ (ie: criticism of zionist Israel).

Posted by: Red Star | Sep 15 2024 16:52 utc | 23

They are asylum seekers mainly from Sudan and Eritrea. They are not Jewish.
Posted by: teri | Sep 15 2024 17:12 utc | 24
I suspect a substantial number of these Africans are Jewish:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2784649

Journal article
The Ethiopian Jewish Experience as Blacks in Israel
Durrenda Ojanuga
Journal of Black Studies
Vol. 24, No. 2 (Dec., 1993), pp. 147-158 (12 pages)
Published By: Sage Publications, Inc.

As distinguished from ‘Black Jews’:

The Hebrew Israelites, as the spiritual community’s members are commonly known, first made their way to Israel from the United States in the 1960s. While members do not consider themselves Jewish, they claim an ancestral connection to Israel.

Very confusing, this “Jewish Nation” thing …
This in particular is a very informative and revealing article:
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/ethiopian-jews-refugees-israel/

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2024 17:34 utc | 25

Arch,
That article is packed with data and tidbits such as ….

…..Ethiopian Jews continue to need special permission from the Israeli government before migrating—unlike Jews making aliyah from the US or elsewhere—and must undergo a conversion to the dominant rabbinical Judaism to attain citizenship.
And there have been scandals, such as in 1996, when it emerged that Magen David Adom, Israel’s national blood bank, had been dumping donations from Ethiopian Jews due to fears over HIV/AIDS.
In 2012, reports that Ethiopian women were forced to take a long-acting birth control injection—though denied by the government—sparked fears of attempted genocide

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 17:44 utc | 27

I suspect a substantial number of these Africans are Jewish:
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2024 17:34 utc | 25
Nah, the Ethiopian Jews got instant citizenship for making Aliyah, were shipped from Ethiopia in a great air convoy, but still got treated as inferiors once they’d arrived, as in your article. So not like these asylum seekers (there’s nothing more foolish than attempting to get asylum in Israel, if you’re not Jewish). Much the same as recounted by Avi Shlaim in his memoir about his experiences in Israel. “Arab” Jews were treated in much the same way as Ethiopians.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 15 2024 17:48 utc | 29

Does modern Israel actually bear any resemblance to ancient Israel territorially? I thought it was never unified as a single entity. You had Israel and then Judea and both only survived for a few centuries?

Posted by: Cavery | Sep 15 2024 17:53 utc | 31

Great Film: James’ Journey to Jerusalem , 2003. IMDB gives it a 7.4
“The film’s plot focuses on an African teenager named James (Siyabonga Melongisi Shibe), who goes on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land on behalf of his village. Upon arriving in Israel, James is suspected to be an illegal foreign worker and, as a result, is arrested. Shimi (Salim Daw), a contractor of foreign workers, releases him on bail to work with him. After James explains to him that he did not travel to Israel to work, Shimi clarifies to him that since he paid for his release, James now owes him. Therefore, James is forced to interrupt his journey and begin working for Shimi.
Shimi tries to gain a profit at James’ expense and makes him work for other people as well. Shimi’s wife sees him as a kind of an amusement.
Salah, Shimi’s father, soon discovers that James is exceptionally lucky rolling dice and he decides to exploit this in order to win in backgammon games against his friends. James hopes to pay his debt to Shimi so that he can finally reach Jerusalem, but as time passes he learns how to conduct with the locals. Salah keeps telling good-hearted and guileless James “Don’t be a frayer (sucker)”, and eventually James ceases to be one:[1][2] he starts managing his foreign worker friends, and soon he becomes a cheap labor contractor himself, just like Shimi. James buys himself nice clothes, a mobile phone and a TV. As a result, he forgets about the pilgrimage.
Eventually James remembers the original reason for which he arrived in Israel, but it is already too late – he is arrested by the immigration police and transferred to an Israeli prison. The prison is located in the Russian Compound in Jerusalem, and so as he is handcuffed, James finally gets to see the city for which his village prays to.”

Posted by: dancingbulul | Sep 15 2024 18:03 utc | 33

Absolutely no one has a problem with European settlers wanting to live in the Levant. Simply buy property in a free exchange among willing parties.
Or make amends for illegally stolen property as per UNR194, ICJ AO (2004), UNSC 2334, and most explicitly ICJ AO (July 2024)

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 18:38 utc | 35

Re: Jews living in Arab lands ?
Its been well established, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the predecessors to the Likud engaged in a brutal terror campaign against Arab Jews who didn’t want to move to Israel.
Kinda like the many hundreds of Israelis that were massacred under Likud’s orders by 28 Gunships and a half dozen Merkavas on 7.Oct.
BTW – the safest place for a Jew these days is… Iran.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 18:54 utc | 37

Just in:
ISLAMIC RESISTANCE IN IRAQ: Our fighters targeted a target in occupied Haifa with a drone.
Comment – the Likud keeps doubling down on failure.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 19:01 utc | 39

Re: the gang that couldn’t shoot straight
Israeli army says ‘high probability’ its strike killed three Israeli POWs in Gaza
https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/israeli-army-says-high-probability-its-strike-killed-three-israeli?nid=390521&topic=Israel%2527s%2520war%2520on%2520Gaza&fid=530551

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 19:28 utc | 41

@N. Hanrahan | Sep 15 2024 19:06 utc | 45

What’s even more eerie is that the conceptually nonsensical War on Terror forged by the neocons immediately after 11 September is now morphing into a war of terror (italics mine), embodying the desperate Hail Mary pass by the CIA and MI6 to “confront Russian aggression” in Ukraine.

It was always War of Terror since 911 or before, the only difference is that more people begin to understand it.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2024 19:41 utc | 43

@ Cavery
It doesn’t matter when the Jews existed in Israel in ancient times. Absolutely doesn’t matter. What matters is the imperial powers that back them up now. When that stops, Israel is over.

Posted by: JAB | Sep 15 2024 20:15 utc | 45

Israeli media: The missile launched from Yemen to the Tel Aviv area flew more than 2,000 km, passing (at least) two American destroyers and one French frigate operating over the Red Sea.

https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/122926

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2024 20:38 utc | 47

“missile traveled an estimated distance of 2,040 km within 11 and a half minutes.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 15 2024 20:30 utc | 51”
So a little faster than 8 mach on average Impressive.

Posted by: Mary | Sep 15 2024 20:58 utc | 49

Why the Yemeni Missile is a Game Changer – Resistance Roundup – Day 345
….,Al-Qassam Brigades
“In a complex operation in the Al-Jneina neighborhood near the Abed Al-Rahman Mosque, east of Rafah city, Al-Qassam fighters targeted a D9 military bulldozer with an Al-Yassin 105 shell. As a rescue force advanced to the location, an armored personnel carrier with several soldiers nearby was targeted with another Al-Yassin 105 shell, resulting in all of them being either killed or wounded.”…..
https://www.palestinechronicle.com/why-the-yemeni-missile-is-a-game-changer-resistance-roundup-day-345/
Comment- Southern Front report above Eastern Front – very Active Northern Front 9 strikes. Long report on Yemeni missile strike. It’s a homegrown weapon. Western Front – Haifa struck
Merkava “destroyed” tally unchanged at 210

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 21:20 utc | 51

Posted by: teri | Sep 15 2024 21:28 utc | 58
Small nuclear weapons defeats the whole purpose of having nuclear weapons.
I looked at that a bit, it is not convincing.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 15 2024 21:38 utc | 53

. . .
I guess trying to get them to sign up to serve for military duty in Gaza is Israel’s way of testing another tactic to get rid of them.
Posted by: teri | Sep 15 2024 17:12 utc | 24
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If these were Jewish Africans, wouldn’t they have an automatic right of return?
The fact that they don’t seem to have this right suggests that they are not Jewish.
+++++++
This in particular is a very informative and revealing article:
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/ethiopian-jews-refugees-israel/
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 15 2024 17:34 utc | 25
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Very revealing, of both the racism and the pilpul-ism of the Israeli

Posted by: Jane | Sep 15 2024 23:24 utc | 55

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 15 2024 23:45 utc | 63
The Doctor Eleven posts on this thread, and many others are sock puppets. Doctor Eleven normally only posts on the Ukraine thread.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 16 2024 0:01 utc | 57

@11 … “about the wave of departure from the country of our good sons, our daughters, their sons and daughters, ”
Crocodile tears of an inbred zionist isreali shill! There are no good israeli sons or daughters anywhere on this earth. It shows this asshole, former diplomat Eran Etzion’s, deeply entrenched evil delusions, insanity and wicked pro-israel zionist stance. Fuck him to hell.

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 16 2024 0:17 utc | 59

Posted by: crimson | Sep 16 2024 0:41 utc | 67
You’ve just cited a piece of Israeli propaganda, and you pretend to call me ignorant, of all naive remarks!!
Names change. Philistine to Palestinian. But they’re the same people.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 16 2024 1:16 utc | 61

Does modern Israel actually bear any resemblance to ancient Israel territorially? I thought it was never unified as a single entity. You had Israel and then Judea and both only survived for a few centuries?
Posted by: Cavery | Sep 15 2024 17:53 utc | 31
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It is my understanding that most of the Jews today and at the time of Jesus, were people who descended from the “Kingdom of Judah”, the last remaining tribe (Kingdom) standing after a series of defeats against the Northern Israelite tribes, or the “Kingdom of Israel” , They split from the “Kingdom of Judah” around 926 BCE. because David and Solomon where complete turds.
After they the people of the Northern Kingdom (the Israelites) were defeated and carried off into exile, they assimilated into the Assyrian populations and were never heard from again, at least not as Isrealites.
Then the Judeans were conquered by Nebuchadnezzar ll around 722 BCE, and the Judean leaders were forced into exile in Babylon where they started to write the Tora and other literature that would be assimilated into the Hebrew Bible much later. This includes a revamp of their history at the expense of the so-called ten lost tribes of the Northern Israel.
King Cyrus conquered Babylon and allowed the Judean captives to return to an abbreviated state of the land of Judah around 539 BCE to rebuild their temple and serve Cyrus.
While modern Jews are people who mostly descended from the State (Kingdom) of Judah, to be fair, some people from the “Kingdom of Israel” did escape to the “Kingdom of Judah” between 926 and 722BCE, mostly Scribes and religious intellectuals. A small smattering of the Israelite population whose blood line is now mixed with Arab and Palestinian blood. I read somewhere; I can’t recall where, that over 70 % of Palestinians have Jewish blood. Maybe someone can find that?

Posted by: Ed | Sep 16 2024 1:20 utc | 63

It is especially funny when “Palestinians” do DNA testing and find out who they really are. Boy, are they pissed?
Posted by: crimson | Sep 16 2024 0:41 utc | 67
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You mean they are pissed because they have Jewish blood. Do you have a quote for that? See above. Also, I think it is (or should be) the Jews who are pissed because they are killing their siblings.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 16 2024 1:28 utc | 65

Orientalist anthroplogy , especially DNA bs , is like Darwin. After you have committed a disgraceful genocide find a bloody good excuse for why you had to do it. African Slave Trade ( ongoing).
If the DNA of the Palestinians is the same as the Greek Islands, would that not infer that the Palestinians , when they had access to the Mediterranean, colonised those Greek Islands, rather than vice versa.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 16 2024 1:39 utc | 67

Why?

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 16 2024 1:40 utc | 69

Why?
Posted by: Giyane | Sep 16 2024 1:40 utc | 76
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I am no expert, but I don’t think that DNA is transferred without sexual intercourse.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 16 2024 1:48 utc | 71

Ed 72
Indeed, but I was asking why my comment had cloned itself without sexual intercourse.

Posted by: Giyane | Sep 16 2024 1:53 utc | 73

The simple truth is that no other group of people has taken so much from other groups of people yet given so little back in return.
Even worse, jews break their word and stab their own friends in the back.
They are literally the worst at losing and the worst at winning.
They scheme and plot and plan for total and complete power over everyone, shamelessly conducting power grab after power grab in broad daylight.
They’ve calculated every scenario except the one where they lose & are exposed.
You could easily say the worst thing that could ever happen to them is to get what they wanted.
Jews have always had power and lusted for power but not to the degree they have today. This is by far the most power and control they’ve ever had.
And look what good that’s done them.

Posted by: ryanggg | Sep 16 2024 2:04 utc | 75

It is especially funny when “Palestinians” do DNA testing and find out who they really are. Boy, are they pissed?
Posted by: crimson | Sep 16 2024 0:41 utc | 67
I’ve seen or read of no instance of what you describe.
However, I’ve read of Jews who have the courage to do this and THAT is indeed funny:
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2019-05-25/ty-article-magazine/.premium/gideon-levys-dna-test-reveals-the-truth-about-his-ancestors-link-to-israel/0000017f-f527-d5bd-a17f-f73f5d4e0000

And we still haven’t mentioned the haplogroup, paternal and maternal. As the report explains, “You descend from a long line of men [or women] that can be traced back to eastern Africa over 275,000 [for women, 150,000] years ago. These are the men [women] of your paternal [maternal] line, and your paternal [maternal] haplogroup sheds light on their story.”

Astonishingly, there’s not a trace of the Land of Israel in my ancestors’ journeys in the past 275,000 years.

This is said to be one of the most riveting areas in genetics. It allows us to trace our lineage directly back to our primeval forebears. If until now the report referred to Radu Tudor from Bucharest, I’m about to find out about my relations among prehistoric man. “Gideon,” the report says, “your maternal haplogroup is H1 … and can reveal the path followed by the women of your maternal line.” Happy days. My female ancestors traveled north 18,000 years ago and reached Europe. Along the way, these ancestors passed through the deserts of Saudi Arabia – but, alas, never even approached the Land of Israel. Not for a moment. Can that be?
Hope remained from my father’s line; in his haplogroup, the picture is different. It’s the R-CTS6 group, says the report, “that traces back to a man who lived less than 6,000 years ago. That’s nearly 240.0 generations ago!” Duh. But again, astonishingly, there’s not a trace of the Land of Israel in my ancestors’ journeys in the past 275,000 years. They never saw it, not even through binoculars. It’s the definite end of my Zionism. My deep connection with the Land of Israel faded in an instant and became nonexistent. Justice was with the Palestinians, and BDS will triumph. In this new situation, the only option is to become post-Zionist.
My parents and my grandparents had no previous connection with Palestine/Land of Israel. My paternal forebears moved from East Africa to Europe via the Caucasus. “The[se] people of the steppes were the first to domesticate horses, nearly 6,000 years ago,” the report states. An honor. We were also the first to develop and use weapons made of bronze. I’d always suspected as much. The members of this lineage live today in Ukraine, in Russia and in Eastern Europe. One-third of Norwegian men and a quarter of British men are also in the R-M512 group, an offshoot of my primary paternal haplogroup. “Additionally,” I read, the R-N512 haplogroup “is still relatively common in the Middle East, as well as in Central and South Asia where it reaches levels of up to 60 percent among the Kyrgyz and the Tajiks.”
One of every 270 customers of 23andMe belongs to my dad’s haplogroup. And we “share a paternal lineage with ‘Mal’Ta Boy,’ who lived 24,000 years ago in Siberia,” on the banks of Lake Baikal, the largest in the world. He was a freckled kid of 3, through whom DNA was extracted and who became an important scientific discovery. The genesis of the “GL lineage,” as the report refers to me, was in a Siberian lake.

Conclusion:
Ashkenazi Jews (European / Slavic Jews) have no connection to the Hebrews/Israelites/Judeans/Palestine/Israel whatever …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 16 2024 2:58 utc | 77

“Most scholars agree …
Posted by: crimson | Sep 16 2024 0:41 utc | 67
Ahhh, the old “mmost scholars agree” nonsense again.
Most scholars where?
Most scholars who?
Scholar Wein-baum, Wein-stein, Wein-berg Lerner and who?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 16 2024 3:12 utc | 79

meanwhile back at the ethnic cleansing ranch
https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1835445592480182697
Gaza Notifications @gazanotice
A video documents the transformation of the Nitzarim area in central Gaza, once a thriving residential area inhabited by Palestinians, now completely destroyed by the Israeli occupation.
This area, which once connected northern and southern Gaza, was entirely demolished by the Israeli army, with residents displaced and the region placed under military control.
The video highlights how this vital part of civilian life in Gaza has been erased from the map and turned into a closed military zone.
via Abdelrahman Alkahlout

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 16 2024 3:38 utc | 81

The hypersonic missile?
The Houthis released some footage of the launch. Can anyone identify it? Is it an existing Russian or Iranian missile? Or is it something new?
I have to say that I would be surprised if Yemen had the capability to develop a hypersonic missile in house. But I would not be surprised if Iran or Russia had given them some. Possibly even modified them so as not to resemble known missile variants.

Posted by: team10tim | Sep 16 2024 3:47 utc | 83

Simplicius reports that it was a Yemeni version of the Iranian Kheybar Shekan-2 hypersonic ballistic missile, the Hatem-2. Essentially the same missile, just made with lower quality materials.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-91524-ukraines-situation-worsens

Posted by: team10tim | Sep 16 2024 5:12 utc | 85

But I would not be surprised if Iran or Russia had given them some. Possibly even modified them so as not to resemble known missile variants.
Posted by: team10tim | Sep 16 2024 3:47 utc | 90
Either way, Iran now has a nuclear delivery mechanism. Just add salt.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 16 2024 5:36 utc | 87

Posted by: crimson | Sep 16 2024 2:05 utc | 83
Ah, another citation of Israeli propaganda from wikipedia (in this case unacknowledged). Why you believe that Philistines/Palestinians disappeared because a particular kingdom (regime) was destroyed in the Biblical narrative, is beyond me. (Even supposing the men were slaughtered, the women are married off to the conquerors, and thus half the genetic code of the defeated survives.) You are actually presenting the argument used by the extreme zealots in Israel for the current genocide; you’re a supporter of genocide.

Posted by: laguerre | Sep 16 2024 6:55 utc | 89

Posted by: farm ecologist | Sep 15 2024 15:36 utc | 11
Excellent analysis sir!

Posted by: jpc | Sep 16 2024 7:27 utc | 91

@ michaelj72 | Sep 16 2024 7:04 utc | 97
I missed your post, and conclude the MQ-9 is now obsolete.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 16 2024 7:48 utc | 93

You are failing at communism.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 23:07 utc | 61
I see the trolls are hitting here as well. I have seen this one used against me before in the Ukraine thread. “You are failing at communism” Will have to go back and dig it up.
Although I read b’s pieces and otherwise take note of how things are going, I rarely look at the Palestine threads as the make or break part of the war against the empire of lies is currently centered on Ukraine. Any posts in this thread up to this one are not mine.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 16 2024 9:15 utc | 95

When all you know how to do is to produce “Vaporware” (kudos to Scott Adams & Dilbert), what can you expect?
Due to its own self-inflicted de-industrialization, the WEST can’t win. In the end, nobody concerned with earning a living gives a shit about MSM or government narratives.
There is a way out though, it’s just that it involves the dispossession of the current Western Oligarchy and its Masters. Well, as someone pointed out above, as ye sow, so shall ye reap.
Now, off to pretend to work so that I can pretend to be paid…

Posted by: OldFart | Sep 16 2024 10:16 utc | 97

(Warning only tangential relevant to this Levant)
“… Compare that with the Rooftop Koreans. Just sayin’.
Posted by: Arch Bungle ….”
Down the street from me a couple of Greek brothers set up lawn chairs on the roof of their burger joint and took potshots at looters cars…..they single handily stopped the looters from pillaging further. West of the Burger Joint every single building looted and many torched; especially hard hit was a ice cream shop. East of the burger joint nothing.
In my little neighborhood we “borrowed” the big trash bins, the heavy metal kind on big metal rollers, from a strip mall and set up a impromptu roadblock at the entrance to our little area. We did 4 hour shifts for 3 days . A old guy who was a hunter handed out a few pistols to trusted neighbors for a improtune patrol. We were a mixed Mexican and Anglo hipster population all working together.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 16 2024 11:14 utc | 99