100 liters on 1 road trip ? Sounds like torture sitting in a metal box for hours upon hours.
Posted by: Exile | Sep 14 2024 8:07 utc | 105
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My wife’s family’s farm is on the other side of the Alps from our rural village. We/She makes the 500km round trip regularly to exchange supplies. In the Winter the roads are quite treacherous. There is no way that rural commute would be possible in an EV. Even if the range were sufficient EVs are not robust enough to stand up to the rigors of the journey.
That said. I do have an EV. Its a cargo bike.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 8:19 utc | 103

Market Street
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 14 2024 9:13 utc | 107
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The Tenderloin has always been a shithole.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 9:56 utc | 105

Toyota hybrid
Posted by: canuck | Sep 14 2024 11:06 utc | 109
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Toyota makes a range of robust inexpensive vehicles for the global south that are not imported into Europe, for “reasons”.
These vehicles are better and cheaper than what is on offer to Western consumers.
https://www.transautomobile.com/en/tropicalized-vehicles-import-export-21

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 11:26 utc | 107

How many KM annually does your wife put on the car ?
Posted by: Exile | Sep 14 2024 12:07 utc | 111
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Every two weeks to the farm so 12’000 km for those trips, and about half that much again locally.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 12:32 utc | 109

Posted by: Fred | Sep 14 2024 7:02 utc | 100
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During the Covid triggered global genocide on Chinese , the UNZ crowd shoved lots of hideous pics in our face, all about mutilated, bashed up, murdered Chinese., with the msg…

We dindunuthin
This is what the Black beast do to you

Well I dont buy that
Covid triggered Genocide on Chinese concentrated in the West, especially the anglophone., where hate crimes against Chinese dated right back to the CEA of 17 C.
Even in US, the attackers werent exclusively Black.
The relatively large occurrence of Black on Yellow is prolly cuz Blacks are on the bottom rung of society, who bore the brunt of the socalled economic reset engineered within the covid psyop
In any case, we all know who concocted the ‘covid’ and then mounted a smear campaign to set the Chinese up for genocide.
Tthey have been doing this kind of shit since the days of OPium wars, later the Chinese exclusion Acts, culminating to the current Global CEA
tHE banality of Evil

The parade of Great White HOpe Hoax….
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Scott Morrison insists it would be “absolutely nonsense” to suggest the coronavirus started anywhere other than China.
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Posted by: denk | Sep 14 2024 14:12 utc | 111

Fred @97, I never said anything against you. I’ve never heard of the guy before. I thought he some valid points. The US is heading towards the cliff.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 14 2024 15:22 utc | 113

@144 denk
I don’t think we know that. It is anything but uncertain that sarscov2 came from a lab, and also that Chinese labs were working on. However there is not the proof of release, by who and if purposeful or not. All points to it being purposeful, but I do not think we will have proof ever that is credible enough, because that can be invented.
The use of the matter against China is clear, that might have occured also if the virus was released by China.
The western reaction to the virus shows a lot of facets of complicity, merged behind a globalist presentation. So much so that reasoning was abandoned. My view was that it would all be kept suppressed for use at a later date, which seems to be happening (for example revelation of media suppression etc.).
The point is that this kind of crime is almost impossible to allocate responsibility to, all that is possible is to close down the tech labs and even that is no guarantee whatsoever.
Fortunately (and there are some that would say unfortunately) I can think of no scenario where an epidemic is capable of wiping more than maybe two thirds of the population off the face of the earth. There will be natural immunity and evasion of infection for example. That is just to place into context the limits to the kind of use that bio-weapons might be deployed for. They would be disruptive and provide opportunity to those with agendas, but would not be decisive in themselves. Personally I would not look forward to being part of a reduced population then being governed by genocidal maniac extremists, of whatever colour.
As 9/11 is discussed, myself I have found no outright proof of controlled demolition yet. I share Karlof’s view, probably by a unit convinced it was working against US interests. The demolition theory I think is designed to confuse the trail.
I don’t really have more to say on either.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2024 15:43 utc | 115

The collapse of the towers was the local equivalent of an earthquake. An adjacent building, like Building 6, collapsing is not proof of controlled demolition. No building collapsing after an earthquake is an obvious impossibility.
Similarly, the contacts between US security services and curious lapses in police counteroperations against the 9/11 militants is not proof of control by US security services: The reason is that the militants could have played their opposite numbers, deceived them into thinking they were in control. Even a police-controlled front may escape control. The Zubatov organized company unions were police operations, but they still led to Gapon’s movement, and ultimately triggered the 1905 revolution in Tsarist Russia. US security services hoping to use a “terrorist” atrocity to promote a prepared program like the Patriot Act could well be convinced their puny opponents could not possibly be so successful. Alternative hypotheses must be considered. This suggested version is by the way a 9/11 truther conspiracy too. The fact that most (all?) other versions seem to assume everything was completely intentional on the part of the security services neglects so far as I know any serious efforts to show who was the genius planner? Personally I think the rule you never assume stupidity explains everything is wrong. But it’s wrong for the same type of reasons to assume genius explains everything.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 14 2024 16:55 utc | 117

You show an astonishing level of ignorance of the subject.
Posted by: Roger | Sep 14 2024 17:00 utc | 121
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My grandfather was a board member of the Ford Motor Co. My dad visited and hosted the Japanese as they were bringing up their auto industry.
The Chinese can manufacture anything they want. There are no secrets to ICE engines. Machine tool builders supply assembly lines on a simple contractual basis.
The reason the Chinese are building cars is because it is a fat juicy market where poorly informed customers spend huge amounts of money to satisfy their emotions rather than their needs.
There is no need to analyze the situation beyond “the Chinese have chosen to slaughter the fattest pig”.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 17:22 utc | 119

@Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Sep 14 2024 7:23 utc | 103

There is a problem. Price. The Chinese are building a small sized shopping/grocery car that can do 60mph in 5 seconds and has a range of about 210 miles. Built in a fully automated factory, they’re are making profit selling them for £9k. The BYD Seagull terrifies Detroit. As a side, the EV has killed Ford. They just aren’t quite aware they are dead yet
Here in the UK, the EV market is struggling. To the extent that dealers are not selling new ICE vehicles because government numbers. EV owners are moving back to old secondhand diesels. Tales of horror are circulating. Dead heater in your EV? That’s a new battery. Then there’s the terrifying depreciation, electric has gone through the roof and tax breaks are gone.
EVs in their current form will not last long. China is already moving towards alternatives for the lithium batteries, hydrogen I believe.
Finally, range. My wife and I went to Handa Island in Scotland to see Puffins and escape the Kings coronation. Over 3.5 days, we travelled approximately 1650 miles, this included over 600 miles in one sitting (10hrs, regular breaks not rushing). You cannot do that in an EV. It is impossible with current tech. For the record, I used 100 litres of fuel.

You are correct about the incredible competitiveness of the Chinese producers with respect to the Western ones. A fault of the hidebound latter who are now attempting to hide their failures behind tariff walls. At least in the EU, Chinese plants within the EU will be coming online in 2026 to 2027. If Trump wins also possibly with the US.
But much of the rest of your comment seems to have not caught up with the present. Hydrogen is the betamax of alternatives for car propulsion, as shown by its absolute failure in the market place. The dominant LFP batteries are offering longer and longer ranges, with 500km to 700km become mainstream in China, while solving the catching fire issue. For cheaper models the Chinese have moved to Sodium Ion batteries. Next will be the solid state batteries.
BYD has industry-leading plug in hybrid technology, with a combined range of around 2,000km before having to fill up with gas again. Here is a range test of one of the latest BYD PHEVs, which still provides the benefit of a battery for every day commuting while being capable of very long distance trips. The thermal efficiency of the ICE engine that acts as a generator for the battery when it depletes is off the scale.
Can This BYD Hybrid Really Go 2,000 KM?
Every month the share of EVs in China jumps, 54% in August, and ICE sales fall, with hardly any EV incentives still in place. EVs will most definitely “last long” and come to dominate the light vehicle space. Two car families in China are moving to a BEV plus a PHEV (in many cases an EREV-Extended Range EV with a large battery), but that will move to BEV only as battery technology keeps improving through this decade. Also, if long trips are very sporadic a rental makes more sense.
In the UK the share of EVs keeps going up! 29.4% in August (22.6% battery electric, 6.8% plug in hybrid), with sales up 11% y-o-y. Petrol engined car sales fell 10% y-o-y and diesels 7.3%. And that’s before the Chinese fully enter and drive down the ridiculously high prices in the UK (of all types of car). Your tales of EV woe are extremely selective and not representative of EV’s in general, I could easily find the same for ICE vehicles. It is sad that the UK have massively increased electricity costs through the self-harming anti-Russia sanctions, that could be fixed so easily. But no, pensioners will freeze in the winter as Starmer gives the money to Ukraine.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 14 2024 17:35 utc | 121

@Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 17:34 utc | 124
Enjoy your alternate reality, I will stick with the real one.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 14 2024 17:37 utc | 123

The use of the matter against China is clear,
Posted by: Ornot | Sep 14 2024 15:43 utc | 118
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Posted by: denk | Sep 14 2024 17:49 utc | 125

Enjoy your alternate reality, I will stick with the real one.
Posted by: Roger | Sep 14 2024 17:37 utc | 127
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If you’re looking into Chinese production the place to start is Deng Xiaoping Theory. Deng unleashed China’s latent productive forces.
Unfortunately internet sophistry has broken search for Deng’s works.
But there is this recent piece reflecting on Xi

Understanding New Quality Productive Forces and Accelerating Their Development
On January 31, 2024, General Secretary Xi Jinping delivered a speech while chairing the 11th group study session of the CPC Central Committee’s Political Bureau. In his speech, he drew on both theory and practice to systematically expound on the essence of new quality productive forces, elucidating the great significance of their development and setting clear requirements for doing so. From this concept’s initial introduction during a tour of Heilongjiang Province last year to the call to develop new quality productive forces at the last Central Economic Work Conference in late 2023 and to the detailed analysis at the aforementioned group study session, Xi Jinping has put forward a series of important expositions and major plans concerning this idea. In doing so, he has provided thorough answers to the major theoretical and practical questions of what new quality productive forces are, why they should be developed, and how this should be done.
High-quality development requires the guidance of new theories on productive forces
The forces of production form the material prerequisite for all social existence. They are the most dynamic and revolutionary factors promoting social progress and serve as the key yardstick of social development. As such, a fundamental goal of all CPC’s endeavors has been to promote the development of productive forces and, on this basis, to continuously improve people’s living standards.
The fundamental task of socialism is to release and develop productive forces. The strength of socialism lies in its ability to enable faster and better development of productive forces than capitalism. Following the founding of the People’s Republic of China (PRC) in 1949, Mao Zedong said, “The purpose of socialist revolution is to liberate the productive forces.” After the launch of reform and opening up in 1978, Deng Xiaoping noted that the tasks in the stage of socialism “are legion but the fundamental one is to develop the productive forces.” After the founding of the PRC, the CPC led the Chinese people in completing in mere decades a process of industrialization that took developed countries several centuries, turning China into the world’s second-largest economy and creating a miracle of rapid economic development rarely seen in history. One pivotal reason for this achievement is the great importance we have attached to the productive forces as the key yardstick of development. From the start, we have worked to release and develop productive forces and steadily enhanced the composite strength of our socialist country.
continues ==> http://en.qstheory.cn/2024-05/11/c_985265.htm

If you care to read it you might understand that China is using automobiles to transform their productive force and not to transform their transportation.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 18:05 utc | 127

Tell us more
Posted by: Exile | Sep 14 2024 18:38 utc | 132
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He kept the most beautiful garden, and was an OBE.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 18:46 utc | 129

Board of Directors member of the European Operation ?
BTW -Roger is stuck in the 1980s manufacturing narrative. I don’t think he realizes everyone follows some version of TPS and has been for at least 30 years.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 14 2024 18:57 utc | 131

The assholes crap it,
The shitheads lap it up hook line and sinker

How can this soldering iron be so cheap?” Because the Chinese political prisoners and Uighur slaves who made it don’t need paying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-wo_al9QJU
That soldering iron is made in Shenzheng FFS
https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/upload/2016/4/20/1461180538692-1447950018766_att00035.jpg
Thats all folks

Posted by: denk | Sep 14 2024 19:02 utc | 133

@Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 18:05 utc | 131

If you care to read it you might understand that China is using automobiles to transform their productive force and not to transform their transportation.

The Productive Force(s)are simply the union of human labor and the means of labor, they are transformed to increase productivity. An individual industry, such as automobiles, can be continuously and repeatedly transformed. The automobile industry interacts with so many other industries that it has been central to the ongoing transformation of the productive forces. China will not move away from this industry, but instead continue to transform it, and with it the related industries. Most especially the core technological parts, as the Chinese state has instructed the industry to do.
There is no generic “productive force”, it is a collective of specifics that deliver social welfare. What may be good for one economic sector or industry may not be applicable to another. And some industries are much more important than others, as the Party-state very much understands. And some such as finance need to be kept under tight state control to stop the development of a financier oligarchy, hence the actions against Jack Ma when he threatened to undermine this control for profiteering.
China is transforming its transportation (which will in itself help transform the productive forces) to deliver increased social welfare, as well as developing its overall productive forces. You are attempting to create an opposition where none exists. After the massive increase in the productive forces was accompanied with widespread corruption, Xi was brought in to both deal with that corruption and reorient the economy to a next stage of technological upgrading which would involve the development of truly Chinese owned and controlled technologies and value add. Far too much of the latter was being bled away by Western supply chain practices and technology control. The Chinese EV industry is helping to fulfil this goal.
@Posted by: Exile | Sep 14 2024 18:57 utc | 135
The book I referenced “The Machine That Changed The World” is about the TPS, so please stop using pathetic straw man misrepresentations of my work.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 14 2024 20:36 utc | 135

When you watch the videos, do be aware that the [supposed, yeah] devices are going off below, beneath the buildings in the granite of Manhattan (~30m), with only a small conduit into their footprint. The comparatively slow conflagration (as compared to a detonation) pushes above like a needle, evaporating the skeleton to form a huge black cloud that later comes down in the form of whitish iron dust. The downfall of the towers therefore looks like a fountain of water going straight up and then blooming before falling back down.

Posted by: persiflo | Sep 14 2024 21:24 utc | 137

Norwegian you might like this new Randall Carlson U Tube-breathtaking ideas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2TPN6N0UJI

Posted by: canuck | Sep 14 2024 22:20 utc | 139

I use ZH as an alternative to Reuters for fairly real time reaction (colored) but ZH at least puts up postings with the following title
Using Law As A Political Weapon Undermines Public Trust In Elections
ZH got this posting about how Jill Stein is being denied election access from
https://realclearwire.com/articles/2024/09/10/using_law_as_political_weapon_undermines_public_trust_elections_151587.html
It is good to see some admittance that the US political system is just a bit corrupt to the core.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 15 2024 1:14 utc | 141

I had to laugh at this headline in the oz government trash rag. The shooters get stripped of medals as they deserve but the enablers go scot free.
Peter Dutton and Richard Marles brawl over decision to strip Afghanistan war medals in same week as veteran suicide report.
Just as dumb as all empire proxies that think they are top gun with the empire of lies backing them.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 15 2024 4:08 utc | 143

Too scents,
Very cool, grandfather would have been on the Board during a period of extraordinary growth plus tech. Developments. Sorta like being in the board of Apple in the 1990s.
How’d you end up living in the Alps and married to a “farm” girl from the other side of the Alps ? There’s a fascinating story there.

Posted by: Exile | Sep 15 2024 4:39 utc | 145

The automobile industry interacts with so many other industries that it has been central to the ongoing transformation of the productive forces. China will not move away from this industry, but instead continue to transform it, and with it the related industries.
Posted by: Roger | Sep 14 2024 20:36 utc | 139
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Considering automobiles strictly as a machine, the productive force they realize is individual logistics. Advancing automation will change individual logistics and make automobiles obsolete for that function.
Once automation solves logistics the only purpose for automobiles will be entertainment or as a show of status.
When automobiles are seen to be a drag on further development they will be abandoned.
There is no need to be sentimental over a passing fancy.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 15 2024 5:18 utc | 147

Germany has turned into a puppy dog for the US to use at will.
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The passage of the Baden-Wuerttemberg frigate and the Frankfurt am Main replenishment ship was the first of its kind in 22 years.
A spokesman for the People’s Liberation Army Eastern Theater Command, Senior Captain Li Xi, said that the “actions of the German side have increased security risks and sent erroneous signals.”
Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning stressed that the “Taiwan issue is not about freedom of navigation but about China’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.” While Beijing respects other countries’ rights to sail in international waters, as defined under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, it firmly opposes “any act of provocation under the pretext of freedom of navigation.”
The Chinese Embassy in Berlin clarified on Friday that the “waters in the Taiwan Strait are China’s internal waters, territorial waters, contiguous zones, and exclusive economic zones from both sides to the sea.”
German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said on Friday that “international waters are international waters, it is the shortest route, it is the safest route given the weather conditions… so we pass through.”
Despite China’s repeated protests, the US, UK, Australia, Canada, and France have sent warships through the waterway on multiple occasions.
https://www.swentr.site/news/604027-china-german-warships-taiwan-strait/

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 15 2024 7:16 utc | 149

Fred @97, I never said anything against you. I’ve never heard of the guy before. I thought he some valid points. The US is heading towards the cliff.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 14 2024 15:22 utc | 116
and … You could have just said that you think he’s full of shit. Either way I don’t care.
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OK so I will accept that as an explanation in good faith. a misunderstanding and very different values given the effort I put in to show WHY “he’s full of shit”.
But if all you want / expect is a dumb 3 word response, lease say so in the future – or even better still don’t even ask. My response was genuine – what you sent back was more than dismissive and condescending.
Your response to me was
@60,Ok Fred! Now tell us how you really feel.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 13 2024 21:13 utc | 83
I’ll drop it and will remember you don’t care, so I won’t bother.
But please do not do it again to anyone. Have some respect to people taking the time responding to your requests.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 15 2024 7:44 utc | 151

looks like they are lighting every fuse while they can.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 15 2024 8:02 utc | 156

CIA and Spanish Intelligence Behind Latest Terrorist Plot in Venezuela
September 15, 2024
Venezuelan Minister of the Interior Diosdado Cabello reported the seizure of a large batch of US-made weapons, a total of 400 rifles and pistols. He also reported the arrest of a US Navy SEAL and two Spanish citizens linked to the National Intelligence Center of Spain, as well as a Czech mercenary, and explained their links with members of the Venezuelan far-right opposition with whom they had planned to assassinate President Nicolás Maduro, Vice President Delcy Rodríguez, and other members of the Chavista leadership including Cabello himself.
At a press conference on Saturday, September 14, Cabello explained that the automatic weapons arrived in containers that contained dog food in sacks. “The weapons had arrived disassembled; the detainees received them and had the mission of reassembling them,” he said. The Venezuelan security forces followed the shipments and looked for those responsible. “The conspirators used fake names, using the names of third parties so that they would not be followed. They are people accustomed to this type of operation, and the United States government is not alien to these operations,” the minister added.
“These rifles were not for an exhibition, they were for terrorist acts promoted by certain political sectors in Venezuela,” he said.
He explained that Iván Simonovis, former police commissioner linked to the opposition, who participated in the coup d’état of April 2002 and after being imprisoned for several years, escaped to the United States, was aware of this operation. Several people have been detained in connection with the operation, who had 10 or 12 rifles in their homes.
Cabello further added that, when these weapons were sent from the United States, the FBI had inspected the package but did not confiscate the weapons nor arrest anyone. He showed a video to back up his allegations.
continues with video and images ==> https://orinocotribune.com/cia-and-spanish-intelligence-behind-latest-terrorist-plot-in-venezuela/

Posted by: too scents | Sep 15 2024 8:22 utc | 153

Pope Francis: “China is a country with a capacity for dialogue and understanding that goes beyond other systems of democracy.”
short video
https://xcancel.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1835171408256942149#m

Posted by: Escobar | Sep 15 2024 10:53 utc | 155

She shows up every 4 years making lavish promises but has no record of producing anything except Republican victories. Hard Pass.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 15 2024 2:18 utc | 146
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If she enables Rethug victories, that’s a bad thing. If she quashes Dim victories, that’s a good thing. I suspect she garners most of her support from people like me who would never vote for either.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 15 2024 12:41 utc | 157

Exile | Sep 14 2024 8:07 utc | 105
*** Sounds like torture sitting in a metal box for hours upon hours.
My wife used 25 US gallons (95 liters) of fuel over the last 12 months. I live car free and loving it.***
Sympathy for your wife’s inebriation, but it seems you may not have encountered a proper war-storm of Scottish Highland Midges, else your thinking might be different.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 17 2024 0:22 utc | 159

Trotsky’s 1928 Critique of the Draft Program of the Sixth Congress of the Communist International includes:
“In our epoch, which is the epoch of imperialism, i.e., of world economy and world politics under the hegemony of finance capital, not a single communist party can establish its program by proceeding solely or mainly from conditions and tendencies of developments in its own country. This also holds entirely for the party that wields the state power within the boundaries of the USSR. … The revolutionary party of the proletariat can base itself only upon an international program corresponding to the character of the present epoch, the epoch of the highest development and collapse of capitalism. .… In the present epoch, to a much larger extent than in the past, the national orientation of the proletariat must and can flow only from a world orientation and not vice versa. Herein lies the basic and primary difference between communist internationalism and all varieties of national socialism.”
Explains why in 2024 you can feel more of an affinity with international commenters on a message board and fighters of foreign lands than the imperialists and satraps who govern your country.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Sep 17 2024 6:43 utc | 161