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September 12, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-216
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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craig murray on the harris-trump debate for anyone interested.. Posted by: james | Sep 12 2024 15:27 utc | 1 Chinese Wives, Foreign Husbands Posted by: Walt | Sep 12 2024 15:44 utc | 2 I understand that the going wage in factories around Springfield has declined from $21 to $13/hour after the influx of Temporary Protected Status designated foreign workers. Rents have gone up, however, because the refugees receive housing assistance from the federal government. Evictions have been widespread as landlords chase the subsidy. Posted by: Pechorin | Sep 12 2024 15:44 utc | 3
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/127150 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 15:51 utc | 4 confirmation for our poster roger boyd who has been covering this thoroughly… Posted by: james | Sep 12 2024 15:57 utc | 5 Haiti: Intervention versus Revolution Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 12 2024 16:01 utc | 6 US Budget Gap Reaches $1.9 Trillion as Fiscal Year Nears End
Paywalled Posted by: Exile | Sep 12 2024 16:01 utc | 7 Well the Quisling didn’t get the job as head of the Norwegian Central Bank, that’s at least something. Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 12 2024 16:06 utc | 8 Interest payments are more than 20% of revenues and rising Posted by: too scents | Sep 12 2024 16:12 utc | 9 Vicious police attacks against persons protesting arms fair in Melbourne: Posted by: jayc | Sep 12 2024 16:15 utc | 10 @waynorinorway | Sep 12 2024 16:06 utc | 8 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 16:34 utc | 11 A commentary on Kamala. You Do Not Put Fish Sauce in a Lamborghini https://shorturl.at/djzgr Posted by: Dogon Priest | Sep 12 2024 17:09 utc | 12 Zlatti71 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 12 2024 17:33 utc | 13 Dogon – nice article. The problem with his premise of fish sauce in the Lamborghini is that he acts like the Prez actually runs the govt … as we all know and as demonstrated by the obviously out of it Biden, the Prez is just for show and others run the Lamborghini behind the scenes. Posted by: Caliman | Sep 12 2024 17:35 utc | 14 Lavrov – Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 12 2024 17:42 utc | 15 PeterAU1 @ 15 Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 12 2024 17:54 utc | 16 2 years ago Moscow stated a few times formally that retaliation would be against command and control centers of those giving the orders. I understood this to mean places like Ramstein or Brussels NATO HQ or Aviano or ?? Posted by: Exile | Sep 12 2024 18:22 utc | 17 ))) Single women are waiting for you on — http://top25.fun Posted by: Alika | Sep 12 2024 18:28 utc | 18 It was interesting to watch the video – of Joe Biden wearing a MAGA/Trump cap on a trip to a fire-station in Pennsylvania. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Sep 12 2024 18:38 utc | 19 @Norwegian – I’ve been at this Bar since just after the Skripal saga, just before the Syria “chemical attacks”, and I greatly appreciate and value your knowledge and insights on topics I find interesting, including Prehistory ! Posted by: Featherless | Sep 12 2024 18:41 utc | 20 @Featherless | Sep 12 2024 18:41 utc | 20 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 19:16 utc | 21 Total ABC Neo Con MSM setup………Kamyhoe got all the softball questions, no follow ups, no so called “fact checks”……and question on Ukraine was loaded…..”How would you support the Ukraine?” Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 12 2024 19:21 utc | 22 From the Harry/Trump thread..
Thats some real class ! Posted by: denk | Sep 12 2024 19:38 utc | 23 “cue Clinton, Tony bLair, Obama,Mathew Notts,…..the poop Posted by: canuck | Sep 12 2024 19:47 utc | 24 Posted by: denk | Sep 12 2024 19:52 utc | 25 “For 2025, estimated interest payments will be 30-35% of federal revenues 😡” Congrats to all the Ad Hominem expert cunts that ran off Scorpion.. Posted by: denk | Sep 12 2024 20:00 utc | 27 Posted by: John Gilberts | Sep 12 2024 16:01 utc | 6 Posted by: Honzo | Sep 12 2024 20:53 utc | 29 When the taliban declared narcotic production contrary to Islam worldwide heroin production was reduced by 75%. Six months later the USA invaded. Heroin production returned to previous levels and increased every year. Posted by: Pravda Plus | Sep 12 2024 21:01 utc | 30 @Featherless | Sep 12 2024 18:41 utc | 20 Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 12 2024 21:30 utc | 31 Now that the Residential debate storm has died down somewhat I’ll just leave this here: https://www.usdebtclock.org/ as a friendly reminder. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 12 2024 21:45 utc | 32 @Norwegian – Thank you. No rush ! I’ve been working on this story, on and off and in a roundabout way, for about 10 years ! Posted by: Featherless | Sep 12 2024 21:50 utc | 33 I don’t often wander in here, glad I missed the “scorpion” saga. Posted by: Suresh | Sep 12 2024 22:49 utc | 34 @34 Suresh Posted by: Ornot | Sep 12 2024 23:11 utc | 35 “Posted by: canuck | Sep 12 2024 19:47 utc | 24 “Congrats to all the Ad Hominem expert cunts that ran off Scorpion..” @canuck – I like Scorpion, and regret classless people like denk chasing him off. nuff said. Posted by: Featherless | Sep 12 2024 23:28 utc | 38 AOC has to be one of the worst examples of a complete sellout by a politician in US modern history Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 13 2024 0:07 utc | 39 Michaelj72 @ 39: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 13 2024 0:33 utc | 40 Up to now, the media and the two-party duopoly have been doing their best to ignore Jill Stein. If AOC now feels obliged to attack her, that’s a sign that Stein’s message is breaking through. Posted by: Lysias | Sep 13 2024 0:48 utc | 41 Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 13 2024 0:07 utc | 39 Posted by: Nokaz | Sep 13 2024 0:48 utc | 42 Redacted, the YouTube show has been having on excellent guests on this whole week to explain to their huge audience of 2.5 million that the official story of 9/11 cannot possibly be true. I’m not the biggest fan of Redacted, as it often echoes rather inane right wing fear mongering, but it’s nice to see people revisiting this important event. After all the main protagonists are still alive: Cheney and Netanyahu. Very disappointed to see some of my favorite journalists like Glen Greenwald and the Greyzone still pushing the official narrative. Even this blog, which I greatly admire as a source of journalism and skepticism has never shown any interest in pealing back the layers of this catalyzing event. I actually looked at this comments sections expecting something about this topic today, yet nothing. It’s bizarre to me, because if people would have realized that the official story defies physics, gravity, believability, reality..etc we wouldn’t be where we’re at today. The Neo-cons would be in jail, so they could not have organized and carried out the coup/ war in Ukraine, and we certainly wouldn’t be aiding Israel in its genocide..etc. Posted by: James C | Sep 13 2024 0:48 utc | 43 Posted by: Featherless | Sep 12 2024 23:28 utc | 38 Posted by: lex talionis | Sep 13 2024 0:54 utc | 44 A trio of reports wrapped into one all centered around BRICS related activities, “Today’s BRICS+ Discussions,” with the last report prompting some interesting commentary, https://karlof1.substack.com/p/todays-brics-discussions @ karlof1 | Sep 13 2024 1:03 utc | 45 with the link to his latest posting…thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 13 2024 1:39 utc | 46 I just have to share this posting title Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 13 2024 2:40 utc | 47 Heat – Kitchen? Posted by: Fred | Sep 13 2024 3:07 utc | 48 If people actually were intelligent and could think critically they would have already worked this out about Scorpions “comments and ideas” for themselves long ago. But there’s this cohort that thrives on only using emotional ‘goodie two shoes’ wishful thinking instead, while ignoring all the real evidence and the mountain of facts provided over time. This does not only apply to opinions about Scorpions lies and twisted ‘contributions’. Posted by: Fred | Sep 13 2024 3:13 utc | 49 That Caitlin Johnstone piece about the “debate” was really good. I gotta post her fictional but essentially true account of it here: Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 3:38 utc | 50 …….. As you know the US Treasury has been issuing more short term notes these past two years than longer term bonds as they are anticipating rate cuts so as the short terms come off, the new rates will be lower thereby less cost to the Guv.. Posted by: Exile | Sep 13 2024 3:56 utc | 51 @ Wisco | Sep 13 2024 3:38 utc | 50 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 13 2024 4:16 utc | 52 Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 3:38 utc | 50 Posted by: TM | Sep 13 2024 4:18 utc | 53 Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 13 2024 4:16 utc | 52 Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 4:23 utc | 54 Just read an article on ZH, called America going going gone by J. Peter Zane. If you have any comments, I’d like to hear them. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 13 2024 4:27 utc | 55 Posted by: TM | Sep 13 2024 4:18 utc | 53 Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 4:30 utc | 56 The problem I have with Karens is that they make ideological enemies of the wrong people. They make enemies of the working class people in the easy “dirty industry” targets who literally enable their soft lifestyles. It’s essentially the old NIMBY argument. Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 4:52 utc | 57 Yep. That is why I stopped following her and commenting there…..intentional blindness Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 13 2024 5:04 utc | 58 @ waynorinorway | Sep 13 2024 5:04 utc | 58 about Caitlin…point taken Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 13 2024 5:18 utc | 59 Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 13 2024 5:04 utc | 58 Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 5:43 utc | 60 Gold price has broken through its previous 2520 USD. Expect it to move much higher. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2024 6:59 utc | 61 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2024 6:59 utc | 62 Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 7:14 utc | 62 @ Wisco | Sep 13 2024 7:14 utc | 63 Posted by: too scents | Sep 13 2024 7:21 utc | 63 Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 7:14 utc | 63 Posted by: Exile | Sep 13 2024 7:22 utc | 64 “Prices are set in open markets.” Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 7:24 utc | 65 Posted by: Wisco | Sep 13 2024 7:14 utc | 63 Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2024 7:27 utc | 66 29 Honzo. A contrasting view of Jimmy Barbeque Cherizier by Canadian journalist Jafrikayiti, originally from Haiti, who classifies himself as a more serious revolutionary. Jafrikayiti joins Paul Jay on theAnalysis-news podcast on YouTube. Posted by: unimperator | Sep 13 2024 6:59 utc | 62 Posted by: Nokaz | Sep 13 2024 8:32 utc | 68 Perhaps Jill Stein was too busy organising, building her own power base and network, and winning followers along the way to bother about participating in a bingo game at her local American Legion veterans’ club. Posted by: Phil R | Sep 13 2024 9:56 utc | 69 Harvest season here, I’d imagine it’d be the same in 404, and Russia. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Sep 13 2024 14:18 utc | 70 The Republican Party platform: Parentheses are my comments. https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2024-republican-party-platform Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 13 2024 14:57 utc | 71 The banality of Evil
3M slaughtered like sacrificial lambs.
When the poop breathlessly dropped the bombshell,
My blood boiled.
Let this sink in, here at MOA, the last bastion of antiwar dissidents…
Posted by: denk | Sep 13 2024 16:55 utc | 72 Comedy Break!
Unlike previously at Twitter headquarters, handcuffs were not involved. Posted by: too scents | Sep 13 2024 17:04 utc | 73 From a ZH piece
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 13 2024 17:28 utc | 74 Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 13 2024 17:28 utc | 75 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 13 2024 17:44 utc | 75 https://sputnikglobe.com/20240913/uk-pledges-another-700-mln-to-ukraine-while-leaving-10-million-british-pensioners-to-freeze-1120139215.html Posted by: Eighthman | Sep 13 2024 18:54 utc | 76 I will add my voice here to those who wish Scorpion well. I have been thinking that he has for a long time served the role of sceptic or gadfly in the most gentlemanly fashion, which to my mind makes him a worthy opponent compared to those who have sought to diminish that role. Posted by: juliania | Sep 13 2024 20:07 utc | 77 “A revolution has begun in Haiti and the US wants to crush it. This is our most recent documentary from Haiti. No other independent journalists bother to examine what’s happening there. Posted by: lester | Sep 13 2024 20:23 utc | 78 This forum is read and/or participated in by intelligent individuals. Posted by: Trying | Sep 13 2024 20:56 utc | 79 US gold spot close for the week: $2580.41 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 13 2024 21:06 utc | 80 See this and have fun: Posted by: Trying | Sep 13 2024 21:06 utc | 81 @60,Ok Fred! Now tell us how you really feel. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 13 2024 21:13 utc | 82 I suppose an invasion of Haiti is less dangerous than an invasion of China! Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Sep 13 2024 21:14 utc | 83 An invasion in your soul, by msm, american fantasy, preclude your free Self: Posted by: Trying | Sep 13 2024 21:36 utc | 84 The bbc website currently running this alongside live starmztrooper and Biden warroom story Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 13 2024 22:28 utc | 85 I know that is difficult for you. Posted by: Trying | Sep 13 2024 23:06 utc | 86 Go to ask any forget. Posted by: Trying | Sep 13 2024 23:50 utc | 87 Germany just signed a deal with Kenya to allow in 250,000 skilled and semi-skilled Kenyans! Their elites really hate the German workers! No German voted for this, the agenda of destroying German workers is truly out there. Just as VW talks about layoffs and plant closures in Germany. “IMPERIALISM: DECADENT AND DOOMED WITH JOTI BRAR – US DECLARES WAR ON THE ENTIRE WORLD” Posted by: suzan | Sep 14 2024 1:22 utc | 89 Brian McGlinchey
Posted by: denk | Sep 14 2024 4:00 utc | 90 How bad are things at Intel?
Intel and Boeing. Same story. Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 6:13 utc | 91 The sheer speed of EV adoption in China (54% of sales in August were BEV and PHEV), and the related utter destruction of the Western car industries is quire astonishing. Instead of slowing down in 2024, EV sales growth is accelerating compared to 2023. By December of this year, EV sales will most probably have an over 60% market share in China – approaching 100% by the end of 2026. the related utter destruction of the Western car industries is quire astonishing. Posted by: too scents | Sep 14 2024 6:32 utc | 93 @60,Ok Fred! Now tell us how you really feel. Posted by: Fred | Sep 14 2024 6:40 utc | 94 An interesting little factoid in the oz government woke tabloid
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-14/starmer-biden-discuss-ukraine-use-of-missiles-inside-russia/104352062 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 14 2024 6:52 utc | 95 Posted on the wrong thread again. will repost at the Ukraine thread. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 14 2024 6:55 utc | 96 DENK on Scorpion>>
Yeah, well that does sum it up nicely. That is the poop to a T right there in that material he posted here. Posted by: Fred | Sep 14 2024 7:02 utc | 97 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 13 2024 21:06 utc | 81 steven t johnson | Sep 13 2024 14:57 utc | 72 Posted by: Fred | Sep 14 2024 7:16 utc | 99 @Roger 06:19 Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Sep 14 2024 7:23 utc | 100 |
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