Just saw your
“Notice Of Absence
@all – I will be offline for the next two or so days.
Please behave.
b.”
Will do our best to behave, and whatever the reason hope everything goes for the best

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 4 2024 6:27 utc | 3

Here is my second Substack post, something of a departure from my usual haunts.
Its title is In the Twilight of Great Britain
https://open.substack.com/pub/waltking/p/in-the-twilight-of-great-britain
Here are the opening lines:

The saddest thing I see in China is an MG car.
The last three cars I owned were all MGs. The first two were built in Longbridge, Birmingham. The third was built in Nanjing, China, and Longbridge is now a housing estate. Delve into the long sad story that led to that result and you will be part way to understanding how the United Kingdom arrived at the sorry state it is in today. What we have seen in Britain over the past 70 years, slowly at first but now accelerating, is its transformation from a country, with all its faults, that one could be proud of, one which essentially served the people, one which was good to to live in: to being a shadow of its former self in which the economy is collapsing, poverty increasing as the standard of living is declining, one in which the priorities of its government are serving its American master, getting involved on the wrong side of conflicts around the world rather than serving the needs of its people, and arresting citizens who do no more than disagree with the policies it pursues.

My thanks to everyone who read my first Substack effort, Four Chinese Women.
If you missed it, it is here.
https://open.substack.com/pub/waltking/p/four-chinese-women
It has racked up 430 views since last Thursday. Almost all must have come through MoA. I am simply amazed and extremely grateful to b and to everyone who read it, and to those who took the time to comment.

Posted by: Walt | Sep 4 2024 6:55 utc | 5

DD Geopolitics
@DD_Geopolitics
🇺🇦 The Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada Stefanchuk posted Kuleba’s letter of resignation
………

Pro-Russian narratives on social media are growing in Poland
▪️Anti-Ukrainian sentiments are growing among the Polish Facebook audience of about 20 million people, and narratives that are beneficial to Russia are spreading. This is reported with alarm by the Ukrainian “Center for Countering Disinformation”, which has discovered many Polish-language pages sowing hatred towards Ukrainians. These ideas are also supported by some right-wing politicians in Poland.
▪️ The main narratives being spread are: Ukrainians are the eternal enemies of Poles, Ukrainian refugees behave like occupiers, Poland is becoming a colony of Ukraine, Poles feel like “second-class citizens” in their own country, the “Ukrainization” and “Banderization” of Poland is growing, military aid to Ukraine is exacerbating the economic crisis and could drag Poland into war.

https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1831219786610508170
The bullshit this war was was built around is starting to implode. Russia launched another large missile attack. Zero air defenses now and apparently not even warnings for cruise missiles. A turkey shoot by the looks. Russia’s new nuclear doctrine is something I am waiting on now.
Here’s Bojo speaking for the British elite.

“They haven’t called up many young people yet.”
Boris Johnson told pranksters Vovan and Lexus that Ukraine needs mass mobilization. The conversation was conducted on behalf of Jacques Attali, the ideologist of the “orange revolutions”, a globalist economist and patron of French President Emmanuel Macron.
The former British Prime Minister agreed that Ukraine needs modern “equipment”, but that the West should not help with human resources – Kyiv must “squeeze out” its human resources.
“They haven’t had a mass mobilization yet. The Ukrainian army, the veterans that I’ve seen, are pretty respectable people, older, mature guys, and they haven’t called up many of their young people yet,” he said.

https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1831218765209518144
Erasing this nasty little island would be a huge leap forward for man.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2024 7:24 utc | 7

posted 7 to wrong thread.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 4 2024 7:26 utc | 8
Saying Bojo is a soulless SOB might count as open thread.
Though it is ukraine, soon it can be any country that falls for the same ploy.
When are people going to get wise and understand that when you volunteer for meat for the hegemon it’s “to the last man” (or probably to the last living person, don’t see bojo stoping at boys, women next)

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 4 2024 7:59 utc | 9

Thankyou b, enjoy a bit of late summer , the autumn and winter will be busy for our history!
A partial repost from an old thread – i hadn’t seen we have moved on several posts!
Ignorance is not acknowledging real historical truths.
The USA was barely ‘invaded’ by forced religio freak groups founded in Northern Europe, who were then encouraged to go find a homeland to live in with every one of their freak Christian beliefs in ‘freedom of worship’.
When they failed to flourish early on – saved only by the turkey feast myth that has spread east back across the pond to Europe – Europeans were encouraged to Go West whether they wanted to or not.
Enclosures, famine, persecution …
Ever wonder for whose benefit?
African slaves were purchased and transported throughout the Americas.
Until enough poor Europeans came to find success in the land of plenty , gold diggers, land grabbers, cowboys – Native killers. It depopulated Europe in many parts leaving the demographic time bombs going off now a few generations later.
‘ Give me your sick hungry and unwanted …’ or some such gobbledygook …
When exactly did that NEED for more immigrants end???
It is a continent sized land and is massively under populated in terms of space per capita compared to many other nations. Russia being less so btw because it lost massive populations through the wars it had been subjected to.
These people who were ‘Latinos’ who have always been encouraged to GO NORTH because that’s what the OWNERS need – willing labourers. There are no longer enough to keep up the growth so more are ‘enslaved’ with promises from their bountious lands , encouraged by war and pillaging of their resources and lands for multinational corporations owned and run by whom?
Asians and south Asians have been encouraged to arrive and now BACK TO AFRICA. – the tens of thousands who are being FLOWN in by the Air America Clandestine forces with fit and able young men… what do you suppose they are for?
History didn’t begin and end with the Founding Fathers Myth and the US as the greatest. thing the world has seen since …everything else that was developed by real ancient civilisations.
It didn’t begin and and with the centuries of coordinated Anglo European imperialism and settlement – again for and by whom?
The river of ignorance is mighty indeed if one stays attached to the myths of the Western European History as the reality , a mighty river, DENIAL. 😉
The strategic reasons for the Collective Wastes war and propaganda is about preserving the myth and cleaving the imperial colonies populations away from the majority of the rest of the world – we (here at MoA) and the Narratives we are made to consume and regurgitate are about finding which stories will work best across the barely (insufficient) billion people of the Collective Waste for the benefit of the very Few who have straddled across the centuries remembering everything whilst keeping us mere slaves, memory holing even our own personal histories ; going round in circles constantly surprised like the proverbial goldfish in a bowl !
Whose bowl? Whose goldfish?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Sep 4 2024 8:42 utc | 11

I would like to inform those including ‘b’ it’s KILO–METRES not KILO–METERS……….
A “Metre” is a measurement for distance …
A “Meter” is something manufactured for the measurement of Volumes of Water… Gas… etc. …etc.
I know no one can move without consulting a US Word Checker … it’s not the pronunciation of Tomatoes we are dealing with here ot’s the spelling of words which have no relation with the other?
William Kierath

Posted by: William Edward Kiera | Sep 4 2024 9:32 utc | 13

@dan of steele | Sep 4 2024 10:09 utc | 14
At the risk of turning the hoot into a screaming match, would this be the time or place to ask if the spelling determines whether the accent falls on the first or second syllable?
Let the wild rumpus start!

Posted by: NotBob | Sep 4 2024 11:03 utc | 15

“Executive Summary
Human civilization will not collapse from the direct effects of climate change, but rather from the secondary effects of crop failures, infectious diseases, and armed conflict. The root cause of the climate crisis is the Earth’s energy imbalance: more energy is arriving at the Earth from the sun than is being radiated back out into space. This is occurring because we have been cutting down forests and burning fossil fuels for the last 150 years at a furious rate, leading to a greenhouse effect and the consequent warming of the Earth’s land, oceans, and atmosphere.”
Posted by: Furtive Fred | Sep 4 2024 11:13 utc | 16
Total nonsense-the last time humans almost went extinct was 70,000 years ago during an ice age-cold kills, warmth proliferates life:

Posted by: canuck | Sep 4 2024 11:41 utc | 17

Posted by: Furtive Fred | Sep 4 2024 11:13 utc | 16
Please educate yourself, read below:
“Overview
Green plants grow faster with more CO2 . Many also become more drought resistant because higher CO2
levels allow plants to use water more efficiently. More abundant vegetation from increased CO2
is already apparent. Satellite images reveal significant greening of the planet in recent decades,
especially at desert margins, where drought resistance is critical. This remarkable planetary greening
is the result of a mere 30% increase of CO2 from its preindustrial levels. Still higher CO2 levels will
bring still more benefits to agriculture.
Plants use energy from sunlight to fuse a molecule of CO2 to a molecule of water,
H2 O, to form carbohydrates. One molecule of oxygen O2 is released to the air for each
CO2 molecule removed. Biological machinery of plants reworks the carbohydrate
polymers into proteins, oils and other molecules of life. Every living creature, from
the blooming rose, to the newborn baby, is made of carbon from former atmospheric
CO2 molecules. Long-dead plants used CO2 from ancient atmospheres to produce
most of the fossil fuels, coal, oil, and natural gas that have transformed the life of
most humans – moving from drudgery and near starvation before the industrial
revolution to the rising potential for abundance today.
The fraction of the beneficial molecule CO2 in the current atmosphere is tiny,
about 0.04% by volume. This level is about 30% larger than pre-industrial levels in
1800. But today’s levels are still much smaller than the levels, 0.20% or more, that
prevailed over much of geological history. CO2 levels during the past tens of millions
of years have been much closer to starvation levels, 0.015%, when many plants die,
than to the much higher levels that most plants prefer. Basic physics implies that
more atmospheric CO2 will increase greenhouse warming.
However, atmospheric processes are so complicated that the amount of
warming cannot be reliably predicted from first principles. Recent observations of
the atmosphere and oceans, together with geological history, point to very modest
warming, about 1 C (1.8 F) if atmospheric CO2 levels are doubled.
Observations also show no significant change in extreme weather, tornadoes,
hurricanes, floods, or droughts. Sea levels are rising at about the same rate as in
centuries past. A few degrees of warming will have many benefits, longer growing
seasons and less winter heating expenses. And this will be in addition to major
benefits to agriculture.
More CO2 in the atmosphere is not an unprecedented experiment with an
unpredictable outcome. The Earth has done the experiment many times in the
geological past. Life flourished abundantly on land and in the oceans at much larger
CO2 levels than those today. Responsible use of fossil fuels, with cost-effective
control of genuine pollutants like fly ash or oxides of sulfur and nitrogen, will be a
major benefit for the world.” (1)
1.https://www.commerce.senate.gov/services/files/FC7C4946-11A3-4967-BF28-8D0386608D3E

Posted by: canuck | Sep 4 2024 12:07 utc | 19

@Fred | Sep 4 2024 11:13 utc | 16

The probability that there will be a global societal collapse is high because the second and third order effects of climate change, such as crop failures leading to starvation, are not fully appreciated and will lead to intra- and interstate conflict.

There are many man-made dangers in this world, but “climate change” is not one of them, so just cut the BS and read up on events like the Younger Dryas.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2024 13:04 utc | 21

“@Fred | Sep 4 2024 11:13 utc | 16
The probability that there will be a global societal collapse is high because the second and third order effects of climate change, such as crop failures leading to starvation, are not fully appreciated and will lead to intra- and interstate conflict.
There are many man-made dangers in this world, but “climate change” is not one of them, so just cut the BS and read up on events like the Younger Dryas.”
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2024 13:04 utc | 22
Thank you for the reality check!

Posted by: canuck | Sep 4 2024 13:37 utc | 23

If she wins.
This will be funto watch paddy’s day 2025
Oh the mental gymnastics!
https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2024/07/23/kamala-harris-is-a-descendant-of-an-irish-slave-owner-in-jamaica/

Posted by: jpc | Sep 4 2024 14:09 utc | 25

I have been investigating the impacts of neoliberalism upon demographics, first in a post on Japan and now in posts on South Eastern Europe and East and West Germany. The lessons are very simple, if you destroy the hopes, dreams and stability of young people (neoliberalism) and remove state social supports for mothers and children (neoliberalism) then birth rates fall. Everything else fades into the background, including feminism (the feminist East Germany had significantly higher birth rates than West Germany prior to reunification).
Of course, Western governments will ignore these messages and continue with neoliberalism while using the “only solution” mass immigration to supposedly fix the working age population deficit. An approach tried to the extreme recently in Canada with the result that GDP per capita has stagnated, productivity growth has been reduced from its already low level, and investment in efficiency has fallen as employers can simply hire cheap immigrant labour. Anyone who thinks that Conservative governments will significantly reduce the immigrant flow simply do not understand the oligarch control of both sides of the political aisle, as shown by the UK Conservatives after the BREXIT that was driven heavily by a popular reaction to high rates of immigration, and by Meloni in Italy. It will be the same in Canada and the US after the 2025 elections.
Perhaps Trump will build his wall and limit immigration, but that will only be after a massive and heavily coordinated influx of illegal immigrants to the US in the last few years under the Democrats. He will also do nothing to end the US economic war on Venezuela, nor the continued attempts to overthrow the Nicaraguan government, nor the neo-liberalization of Central America that so drives the movement of desperate people toward the US border. He will still be an improvement of course over the Democratic full on class war mass immigration actions of the past 4 years.
I have started looking at other European nations, including a France that stands out for a relatively positive demographic structure (hint: the social state that benefits mothers and children has been a lot more resilient in France, its not immigration).

Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2024 14:49 utc | 27

The UK and Ireland and US are slowing inexorably de-industrializing themselves on orders from the globalist elites in the WEC and the Open Society Foundation.
Bill Clinton years ago stated plainly that “we do not need steelworkers or steel plants, steel can be obtained any where” preferably in China or India.
That was signal that it was OK to openly advocated for a de-industrialized society, since Willie always took orders from the globalist masters in Geneva.
In the UK it followed orders to close down coal mines, steel mills, power generation stations, shipyards like H and W, auto plants and depend on imported goods and Chinese made solar panels and industrial wind mills.
The result massive economic dislocations, with the UK even ordering RN naval vessels from foreign sources (who cares about the H and W workers in Belfast anyway), and massive increases in utility rates for the middle class.
The socialist autocratic green new deal fits in perfectly to the globalist WEC agenda…….bankrupt the middle class with a lack of real, good paying jobs, jack up utility rates to unaffordable levels and then repress the free speech rights of the middle class too. Turn them into easily controllable vassals of the new globalist Orwellian state….
And do not forget to wage endless foreign wars against Russia and the Palestinians to keep the pressure off your oppressive domestic economic policies.
Lets not forget that the US too is in the same boat, $35 T in debt, a debt now exceeding GNP. And with the election of neo fascist green socialist Harris/Walz ticket well down the same rabbit hole that the UK is engaged with now. More war, less jobs, more crazy green policies.
The western world is tipping on the edge of a great reset……November 5 will tell the tale…Orwellian oppression or economic freedom……your choice bar flies………

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 4 2024 15:41 utc | 29

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 4 2024 15:45 utc | 31
The criminal class? Seriously?
You mean dirt poor people with little or no education?
The real criminal class runs this country, and its prisons.

Posted by: JAB | Sep 4 2024 15:54 utc | 31

@Posted by: JAB | Sep 4 2024 15:54 utc | 32
“The real criminal class runs this country, and its prisons.”
Exactly, and the law does not apply to them unless they suddenly gain a conscience or some empathy for others less fortunate.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2024 16:02 utc | 33

Propaganda slogans are pithy, by design. Sometimes, demanding brevity is barring discussion. When there is a scroll function on your mouse, length is not your mortal enemy: The real enemy is either seeing a computer screen (see your optometrist?) or reading comprehension (sometimes of the writer?)
The lesson of the Younger Dryas is that climate changes can be both sudden and drastic, not that climate change doesn’t matter. The original population of Britain (the island) was apparently largely replaced by an influx of Mediterranean peoples. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-019-0871-9 Was it because the population had radically dropped centuries earlier leaving the original inhabitants too few? Of course I don’t know…but neither do people know that there weren’t any negative consequences for humans due to the Younger Dryas. There is no reason to believe that other than wishful thinking. No reason, means not rational.
In fact, no one knows for sure what caused the event. One explanation, fresh water inflows from melting ice changing ocean currents, thereby reducing effective heat transmission from lower latitudes is a strong contender. That effect can take place now. The problem is that rapid climate change can have devastating effects. Slow climate change for one thing allows forests to migrate. (Yes, they migrate, but being plants it’s by seeds successfully germinating and growing to adult trees in higher latitudes over the years, as forests in lower latitudes whose climate has becomes unsuitable slowly wither as each tree eventually dies. It takes a long time.)
My personal belief is that the challenge of global climate change cannot be met by capitalism, which will risk the future of humanity for profits today. That’s why there’s so little progress on addressing the issues, despite the hysteria of right-wingers devoted to their masters’ profits. Those people thought things like pension plans and health care and public education are The Road to Serfdom too, so there’s that. There are (in my opinion fake) self-dubbed leftists who advocate weird de-growth nonsense and others who add in depopulation. I think Marxist socialism rejects asceticism (see the Manifesto, please!) And Marxist socialism I think tells us that planning is a key component of all human progress after the decay of capitalism/imperialism. But that’s me, evidently.
Not being fanatical, I would gladly consider a mere reform of immigration: Only a union card is a green card. If immigrants don’t work at the prevailing union wage, they don’t go. Not an accelerationist, will support genuine reforms. Calling for mass deportation is calling for mass death and ethnic cleansing, the Gaza option. By the way, the classic imperialist way of dealing with expensive labor is to take up exploiting the workers in their countries (if that’s not an oxymoron?) It’s called outsourcing. Why pay American wages to Americans when you can put your jeans factory in Bangla Desh?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 4 2024 16:08 utc | 35

“Posted by: Honzo | Sep 4 2024 16:11 utc | 37”
I was in it in the wee hours this morning.~2 am est.
But this is the message I get now:
Error establishing a database connection

Posted by: Mary | Sep 4 2024 16:19 utc | 37

@ Honzo | Sep 4 2024 16:11 utc | 37
yeah.. same..

Posted by: james | Sep 4 2024 16:36 utc | 39

Sonar21 down for me : 503 message

Posted by: Exile | Sep 4 2024 16:53 utc | 41

@Posted by: Tobias Cole | Sep 4 2024 15:41 utc | 30
Calling Harris/Waltz socialist is utterly delusional. They are somewhat progressive neoliberal Zionists bought and paid for by the capitalist oligarchy, while Trump is conservative neoliberal Zionist. The supposed “green” policies are just massive handouts to specific parts of the oligarchy, while the state subsidies continue to flow to the oil and gas industry as well.
The US is run by an extractionist profiteering capitalist oligarchy that owns both parties. There are different parts of that oligarchy with different interests, hence the different focuses of Harris and Trump, but they will always come together to support their general interests – that’s why Harris, Trump and Kennedy are all fully neoliberal and fully Zionist. As was Sunak and now is Starmer, as is Meloni, as is Macron, as is Trudeau and will be Poilievre, as is Scholz etc. The party makes no difference, they are all owned by the capitalist oligarchy. Actual socialism is their enemy.
Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2024 15:59 utc | 33
Ditto.
Plus, how after watching the Biden administration bring us to the brink of nuclear Holocaust with actual Nazi Ukrainians and funding a genocide and perpetrating the NSW pipeline explosion, can anyone believe they are any better than Trump?
As for the environment, consider the environmental impact of just the three undisputed acts of the democrat party states above and tell me again that they care about preserving our environment.
I used to just abide the bullshit lesser evilism, but at this point in history you have to be totally ignorant or an outright liar to push that argument. I’m not having that shit anymore. It’s just too clearly false.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 4 2024 16:59 utc | 43

Norwegian@1655
Ganske Rigtig. There are other versions besides the Great Lakes…Hudson Bay as the prime exemplar, as explained to me by Dr. Chuck Carson, then heading the geology department at University of Minnesota, Duluth. His statement was in response to one I made relevant to the Mesabi Iron Range, with its southernmost Tioga Pit’s “spoils pile” evidencing infusions of various formulations of iron into a sand base, which was nearly vitrified into an amalgam with hematite, limonite and other iterations of the mineral content.
Dr. Carson cued me into an understanding that my hypothesis would have been from a much earlier geological era than the “crash” of the Laurentide glaciation. He did agree that the primary entry point of the bolt from he blue may well have struck that site southwest of Grand Rapids, Minnesota and that the zig-zag deposition of the iron induction from well below the planet’s mantle…in a formulation similar to a lightning-bolt, proceeded northeasterly up to the far deeper underground pits in the far extremity of the Range, somewhat northeastwards of Lake Vermillion.
Makeup of the ore-body in that northern extremity is of a far harder agglomeration and trends towards a nickel content in small iterations.
Carson also pointed to not only Hudson’s Bay itself as the largest strike on the planet, but also to that spattered mass of islands commencing with Baffin Bay and then proceeding northwestwards. Thus, it would appear that the breakup of the northeastern corner of the North American continent was the fore-runner of later strikes in that general neighborhood. Thus, your premise that the Great Lakes, primarily of Lake Superior, may most probably been the till now ultimate strike in that large region. Interestingly, the Upper Peninsula of Michigan…at the south end of Superior…once sported North America’s copper mining region. It is not unlikely that the south shore of the greatest lake contains unmissable masses of pure or nearly pure copper.
Meanwhile, there is a huge battle going on in the Arrowhead Region of Minnesota as to whether massive mining in that area for a multi mineral complex would or would not be destructive to an unique zone, just to the north of Hibbing where a continentally unique Continental Divide of THREE river systems exists. The rivers include the St. Lawrence System which terminates into the Atlantic in the province of Quebec and encompasses the entire Great Lakes Basin; the Mississipi System, the northernmost tributary being the Swan River AND the Rainy River which debouches into the Red River of the North via Lake of the Woods, which borders Minnesota and the provinces of Manitoba and Ontario and thence debouches through two major Manitoba lakes and then forms the Nelson River which empties into Hudson’s Bay…and the Arctic Ocean.
All three of these critical watersheds could become degraded by massive mining by greedy corporations who are currently being combatted by various environmental groups.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 4 2024 17:33 utc | 45

A very good article by the “Canadians for a Sustainable Society” how a think tank headed by a McKinsey guy then by a Blackrock guy has worked quietly behind the scenes to spread its tentacles around all of the political parties to drive unconditional support for mass immigration – taken to extremes by the current Liberal-NDP administration.
Meet Canada’s Real Government
Also, a great takedown of all the liberal democracy bullshit. In the West, we live in a capitalist oligarchy. Mass immigration has nothing to do with “lefties” its a capitalist ruling class project.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2024 17:35 utc | 47

Canuck@1734
Thanks for the research info on the Younger Dryas and its massive impacts.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 4 2024 17:39 utc | 49

Norwegian@43 is correct in citing another strong contender for the cause of the Younger Dryas event. But Norwegian’s assertion that the event being a natural somehow makes a difference is a non sequitur. It doesn’t make any difference to us is we mess the world up ourselves or if you think of it as an act of God. A major earthquake under the Thwaites glacier could trigger a sudden collapse and a massive sea level rise. I suspect some MoA commenters wouldn’t care if Bangla Desh loses huge portions of its farm land. But I think our duty to humanity, including posterity, means doing our best to make a better world. When there are billions of people all wanting a good life, there are amounts of carbon dioxide (and methane, an overlooked greenhouse gas—we can’t do anything about water vapor) being produced on unprecedented scales at rates unprecedented. Geological history is full of examples of global catastrophes called mass extinctions but again, that in no way implies we should be heedless of our world. Or to put it in the most basic terms, people are a part of nature too. They can be the natural cause. Any unspoken assumption that only God disposes, not even the optimistic version where God will save His children from themselves, is unwarranted. The danger of CFCs was forestalled, why not anthropogenic climate changes?
By the way, if the impact theory of the Dryas event is found to be the best explanation, then that would be a strong argument for a human commitment to an active presence in far space, where such lethal objects can be detected and deflected without dangerous scifi gimmicks like nukes exploding overhad. That’s not what the Space Force is for.
And, to repeat, transitioning to a sane system will in my opinion require a socialist world economy with some degree of environmental planning. Further, said socialist world economy is the only way I can see the secondary effects mentioned above can be dealt with. Sea level rise that drowns island nations doesn’t necessarily involve either letting them drown to save oil billionaires today or savagely rationing everyone on the planet. It is folly to ignore climate change on the simplistic grounds that warm is good. It’s not good everywhere and it’s not good all the time and in both cases we—if we had a rational system—would care. Cars have been good and will still be good in lots of places (especially rural areas it seems to me,) but that never means not worrying about smog, or their carbon dioxide emissions. Warming does have some benefits, thank God, and if we adapt our way of life, our economy, to share the benefits and burdens. Ignoring the future is a plea for those secondary effects, such as local famines in a world that still has enough food if distributed. Or plagues from disrupted biomes. Or the wars that develop when destabilized states are targets of imperialism. (See the history of the war in Syria, where neoliberalism compounded the effects of prolonged drought and was a cause of the terrible war there.) Denialism in my best judgment is driven by a desire to not share burdens and benefits, to serve today’s wealthy at the cost of the rest of the world and those who come after us.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 4 2024 17:43 utc | 51

@aristodemos | Sep 4 2024 17:33 utc | 46
Great theories! For sure lots of things happened in the very distant past. The part I am considering (the theory is not mine, I just try to fit some of the pieces together) is virtually yesterday, 12800 years is nothing. But it is fascinating to realize a great cataclysm happened and there were people like us before it, and they did things we still cannot do.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2024 17:51 utc | 53

All these hand-wringing clmate change doom-pornsters are consistent in one thing, and that is ignoring the global emissions of the US Department of Defense. Allegedly an F-35 burns 22 gallons of jet fuel a minute.
Get the US DoD to wind its neck in regarding emissions, then I might take another look at the 20 gallons my 1.5litre turbo-diesel burns every 3 months or so.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Sep 4 2024 17:54 utc | 55

I’ve been reading MOA at least once a week for the past two years. Somehow, I never saw discussion of this Rumble video that came out a year ago making a very strong case from multiple lines of evidence that Nordstream was blown using a 5 kiloton nuclear weapon, and therefore even Seymore Hersch’s story is a limited hangout to divert people away from the truth.
https://rumble.com/v3ekpvd-professor-hans-benjamin-braun.html
Posted by: Rhinoskerous | Sep 4 2024 17:19 utc | 45
Agreed as to Sy. He’s a confirmed Zionist, so immediate credibility issue there.
His prior work may have been different but I think elements within Imperialism have brought him in as the limited hang out man.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 4 2024 17:56 utc | 57

Germany state elections: Who is Sahra Wagenknecht, the woman cannibalising Germany’s left?
Story by Alessio Dell’Anna
• 2d • Euronews
For the German left, the elections in the states of Saxony and Thuringia have been a disaster — except for one months-old party.
The Sahra Wagenknecht Alliance (BSW) managed to rank third in both states by getting 15.8% and 11.8% of the vote in Thuringia and Saxony respectively.
——-
Typically, the “responsible analysis” is shallowest possible. In this case, the article provides little besides the background of BS that can be seen in Wikipedia, and her positions on immigration and sanctions on Russia which are shared to some degree with “far right”. Most “puzzling” is lack of comments on “canibalization”.
In Saxony, the sum of votes for Linke and BDS sharply increased, BDS alone gaining more seats than Linke in 2019, while Linke still got 6 seats. In Thuringia, the sum of seats went down by 2, but there, in 2019 Linke had the largest vote, was present in the government and thus got some flack that entire establishment got. SPD vote collapsed, but is it a left Party?
Objectively, Wagenknecht’s movement is changing the direction of German left, and in most regions it expands the left.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 4 2024 18:01 utc | 59

@canuck | Sep 4 2024 17:34 utc | 47
Thanks for the support! It is rather plain logic based on hard facts. I highly recommend listening to Randall Carlson, I have lost count on the number of hours I have heard him explain how the North American landscape was formed and how it requires one or more extreme cataclysm.
Btw, if you are interested in the Carolina Bays, look up Antonio Zamora on Youtube.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 4 2024 18:06 utc | 61

@61 fnord
I was a late bloomer sexually.
What you are describing at puberty is experimentation which is getting increasingly normalized, accepted, and even encouraged.
But what sane parents wants their 16 year old to already be having sex?
That’s why chastity is the best policy.
With all the hormones and media driving adolescents crazy in their own skin, it makes sense to shelter them from this crap until they are responsible in their impulses.
As I have already commented before, feeling comfortable with the other in the bedroom to feel vulnerable within exploration is the best avenue forwards concerning human sexuality. Iow, if they are patient, men and women can truly understand and learn when they are ready for the blessing of sanctioned coitus of a man and a woman.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 4 2024 18:16 utc | 63

NemesisCalling writes:
“But what sane parents wants their 16 year old to already be having sex?”
Short of laying on leg irons, how do parents prevent their 16-year-olds from having sex, if they’re dead set on “doing it”?
“With all the hormones and media driving adolescents crazy in their own skin, it makes sense to shelter them from this crap until they are responsible in their impulses.”
Even without those nasty media, how do you “shelter” kids from their own hormones? Especially because your Church forbids masturbation…

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 4 2024 18:47 utc | 65

NemesisCalling @ 64
In answer to your comment.
Heres the truth about religion.
https://us.cnn.com/2024/09/04/europe/ireland-child-sex-abuse-schools-report-intl/index.html
Not so chaste or pious.
More truth and reality.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 4 2024 19:00 utc | 67

@Posted by: fnord | Sep 4 2024 18:04 utc | 61

In my locale, the censorship that’s occuring in schools is the opposite: teachers can no longer use their students’ preferred pronouns without getting permission from the students’ parents, defying the bodily autonomy of youths and being forced to out LGBT students to parents who may take abusive actions towards them (the majority of homeless youth in the USA are homeless because their parents kicked them out of the house for being gay or transgender). In plenty of cases parents attempt to beat the homosexuality out of their kids. Also on the censorship docket is the censorship of libraries of any materials that may contain “sexual” content, because our censors are deathly afraid of biological facts such as puberty (and sentience) beginning before the age of majority. Meanwhile we have reactionaries threatening to enforce the Comstock act – which liberty-loving revolutionaries like Emma Goldman famously defied – to restrict birth control from being mailed to states where abortion has been criminalized.
The crocodile tears from the christians who have a psychological yearning to be repressed are shameful. The damage christians are doing to freedom in the west cannot be understated. They would install an Iranian-style theocracy over us if they could, and Eris knows they’re trying.

Wow, where do I start with the level of attempted gaslighting, false parallels and outright lies here?
1. Parents have the parental right to raise their children, not some busy-body teacher who has no understanding of the child’s life history that the parent has. Under law such children do not have autonomy over many, many decisions. And many time children do need their parent’s knowledge and wisdom to understand their own feelings. A teacher is not a parent and should not be allowed to undermine parental authority, a teacher is also completely lacking in the training of a social worker or psychiatrist and should not try to be one.
2. Sexual identity and sexual orientation are two completely different things which you attempt to confuse here. The attitudes toward homosexuality in the US have utterly changed for the good in the past few decades, your statement that “In plenty of cases parents attempt to beat the homosexuality out of their kids” is utter unfounded hyperbole. Also, although Musk is most definitely transphobic in his statements (i.e. in his references to his daughter) he has never displayed homophobia to my knowledge. You need to stop confusing the two, they are utterly different. Homosexuals have sex-aligned gender identities, they are not trans, they are attracted to the same sex.
3. Your statement that “the majority of homeless youth in the USA are homeless because their parents kicked them out of the house for being gay or transgender” is utterly untrue, as is the usual BS about transgender people being murdered for their sexual identity in large numbers. People who have investigated the latter figures find reams of accidental and natural deaths being misrepresented at “deaths because they were trans”.
4. Another ridiculous and confused statement “Also on the censorship docket is the censorship of libraries of any materials that may contain “sexual” content, because our censors are deathly afraid of biological facts such as puberty (and sentience) beginning before the age of majority”. Teaching about sentience has absolutely nothing to do with sex education, also puberty and sexual reproduction will be taught in biology class! There is no need for books that cover explicit sexual content in school libraries, apart from in the biology section.
5. I would also note that children going through puberty and early teens are extremely vulnerable to manipulation toward an “answer” for feelings of body dysmorphia, general unhappiness, feelings of inadequacy etc. There is a growing group of people who are detransitioning after being told that being trans was a magic bullet when proper support and therapy was required, certainly not of the “gender affirming” kind.
I agree with you on the rights of adult women to control their reproduction, but this is lost in a whole paragraph of an anti-parental rights manipulative diatribe and statements that are utter lies. Your group-level condemnation of Christians is explicitly hate speech, defining a group by a shared characteristic such as sex, ethnicity, religion etc.
The anarchism of Emma Goldman was the exact opposite of Lenin’s project that successfully gained power in the Soviet Union. She renounced the first workers revolution and left the Soviet Union in 1923. A classic anarchist idealist more interested in the rush of revolution than building actually existing socialism. Her books about the Soviet Union aided Western anti-Soviet propaganda. She ended up being feted by bourgeois society for her risque and self-indulgent auto-biography, covering a life that was a chaotic mess seeded by an extremely abusive and restrictive childhood.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2024 19:41 utc | 69

But what sane parents wants their 16 year old to already be having sex?
That’s why chastity is the best policy.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Sep 4 2024 18:16 utc | 64
Many sane parents approach it practically. Both condoms and chastity may be effective birth control, unless they break. Empirically, latex beats chastity as breaking less often.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 4 2024 19:56 utc | 71

“What we do need to stop is the over-sexualization of children by society and the pressure for young people to have sex,..”
Roger
One practical way to stop early sex is to stop feeding highly processed foods to young girls are they have more estrogen and gets them fatter such that US girls have their puberty between 8-12, 50 years ago it was 14-16. (1)
1. Girls begin puberty at an earlier age compared to past decades. Excessive eating of many processed, high-fat foods, may be the cause of this phenomenon. Overweight or obese children are more likely to enter puberty early……Most girls enter puberty between age 8 and 13 years…

Posted by: canuck | Sep 4 2024 20:08 utc | 73

Political parties these days operate like product manufacturers, targeting market segments with differential advertising. Understandably, therefore, the “consumers” of politics move from party to party as they might move from brand to brand. (aurelien)

Posted by: Passerby | Sep 4 2024 20:19 utc | 75

About as useless as Trotskyists, just like the woke Die Linke.
Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2024 19:57 utc | 73
Anyone who looks seriously to the legacy of Trotsky to interpret the world today is by definition intelligent, courageous and humanist. Slandering that lot just makes you look like a dumb cynical asshole, Roger.
You’re better than that, buddy. If you have a beef with the SEP (very understandable) just say so, but don’t trash the flower of the youth.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 4 2024 20:32 utc | 77

It has racked up 430 views since last Thursday. Almost all must have come through MoA. I am simply amazed and extremely grateful to b and to everyone who read it, and to those who took the time to comment.
Posted by: Walt | Sep 4 2024 6:55 utc | 5
I very much enjoyed this piece, thank you, Walt. I’m subscribed via my feed reader so you won’t see the subscription at Substack. Looking forward to another post about China… thanks!

Posted by: Multipolar Panda | Sep 4 2024 20:54 utc | 79

Tobias Cole | Sep 4 2024 15:41 utc | 30
***… autocratic green new deal fits in perfectly to the globalist WEC agenda ***
Is it compulsory for Americans to call anything they don’t like “socialist”?
There is absolutely nothing socialist about the WEF agenda or its promoters.
A world of everything owned, bought, sold and speculated, by the Oligarchic Overclass and monopoly-capitalist corporate entities is most certainly not a communist or socialist world.
Note that the WEF does not say “we will have nothing” — it says “you will have nothing”.
That they often use jargon hijacked and perverted from the “left”, and rely on wokist quisling false-front organisations *pretending* to be “leftists” to pimp their agendas does not make them “left”.
Nor does their sponsorship of allegedly “green” outfits which in reality pimp thinly veiled facilitations of built-in obsolescence and corporate profiteering beyond the wildest aspirations of overt corporate spivs, mean that the WEF / present-day cultist “greens” of the EU/UK type are the least bit genuinely concerned about ecology.
In fact, these perpetually screaming, sanctimonious thugs are an arm of the false-flagged enforcers of neoliberalism taken to its ultimate destination — that of global monopoly-capitalist dictatorship.
They are one side of the Overclass controlled pincers … the other being the so-called “right” (monetarist morons blind to the ulterior motives of their masters) or fake “conservatives” (other than the wealth of the rich, and constantly increasing income disparity, what do they ever conserve?) …. but one thing is certain — none of it is “socialist” or “nationalist”.

Posted by: Cynic | Sep 4 2024 21:04 utc | 81

Hey Walt!
Please put the URL to your substack in your moniker so folks like me that have missed your links can still go there and try and catch up w/o more noise at the bar about it.
Thanks!

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 4 2024 21:41 utc | 83

@11 Dun
It is funny, because on Palestine thread I posted a link that cited “Give me your sick hungry and unwanted …” , and before once reading this thread. Though I agree with what you say above, there was also a shorter period of history when the US did enjoy being ‘ahead’ of most other civilisation – in the broadest of senses, or even only materially, and partly due to conflict in/with other nations. Not all migration was pull either, poverty and conflict in europe has a long history also, and to say it was all designed to send workers to the US would not be true. That was then though, and certainly the direction you mention was always turning in background when not in foreground.
What is also funny is seeing this US/British/Oz difference become more prominent with what is occuring in Palestine. I don’t tend to say “Americans” , instead “the US” … similarly “Australia” – because we are usually talking state responsibility which automatically includes citizens who sympathise with, but not all. So when people say the Brits or British, or blame the island (i.e. all its inhabitants) I draw the line. Sure, I am British nationality although only having lived there previously much less than a decade … I’m not offended , but it would be to insult people I know and like also. So as British I lay responsibility with the UK government, UK businesses involved. I place responsibility on the US equaly in a similar way, I do not say “Israel” is taking advantage ; no, the US is responsible for its own actions, its people to whatever degree they support that.
Others are free to their own views but should expect some pushback when they start including those that do not feel they should be included.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 4 2024 22:25 utc | 85

@Posted by: canuck | Sep 4 2024 20:08 utc | 74
Absolutely in agreement with modern food driving early menses in young girls. The same was seen with the use of many hair straightening concoctions used by young Black girls, they were full of xenoestrogens. What also needs to be removed is the sweetener based on corn, high fructose corn syrup, its a poison for the insulin system and boosts weight gain. Then add back physical education classes to school and kill the “fat friendly” BS stone dead.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2024 22:37 utc | 87

Multipolar Panda 20.54
Thanks for your comment, I am working on another piece about Chinese women, historical suppression and their progressive liberation, with my wife’s collaboration, up in two weeks.
Psychohistorian 21.41
Thanks for support, please excuse my ignorance but I am not clear as to what to are asking. And yes, the bar does seem rather noisy of late.
Those who have regretted Bevin’s absence from the threads should know that he has written a long illuminating comment under my Substack which I highly recommend. Hope to see you there!
https://open.substack.com/pub/waltking/p/in-the-twilight-of-great-britain

Posted by: Walt | Sep 4 2024 23:29 utc | 89

The question should first be “what’s at stake for me philsophically that climate change be natural rather than man-made?” In other words, what makes the man-made explanation scandalous to me—and what am I absolving us from by insisting on the ‘natural’ (i.e. normal, good) explanation.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 4 2024 20:46 utc | 79
Man, is that absolute, bass-ackwards convoluted thinking. Nature and natural events are not normal, or good or moral-they just are… No one needs absolution from a natural event. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim that changes that occurred naturally in the past are “different” now, caused by humans and will cause the end of civilization as we know it. It’s a belief bordering on the religious.

Posted by: Phil R | Sep 4 2024 23:48 utc | 91

Psychohistorian 23.35
Ah got it!
Good idea, thanks !
Oops.
https://waltking.substack.com/

Posted by: Walt | Sep 4 2024 23:56 utc | 93

Patroklos@79 drew a powerful parallel between tobacco companies denying the causes of cancer and modern anthropogenic climate change deniers. Well put.
Roger@88 signs onto food faddism in the same thread with a condemning Freud as nothing but a fraud? The lack of self consciousness should be extraordinary. Sugar is not a “poison.” That’s the wrong word, it’s like saying food is a poison, when you mean overeating is bad for you!
This thick-headed approach forgets to ask about total calories. The alternative hypothesis is, early menses is not “early” when the young female has enough body mass with sufficient fat reserves to support menstruation. If you insist on evolutionary scenarios, natural selection favored earlier sexual maturity when the times were good and there was enough food to foster successful reproduction. Whatever genes are involved, those that led to later reproduction led to lower reproduction, which is to say, such genes were negatively selected. No, I don’t know this alternative hypothesis is correct. But I do know that refusal to consider alternative hypotheses is the road to error (being charitable.) It leaves you vulnerable to a “theory” that complex hormones can be absorbed through the scalp in large enough amounts to do anything. And without bothering to compare the composition of other cosmetics or foods? And without bothering to establish a genuine early menstruation in young Black girls, rather than misperceptions of Black girls as sexy but not white girls? And not comparing any effects from testosterone on the development of boys? If you’re not going to think seriously, don’t babble.
Similarly, Roger@70 declares “People who have investigated the latter figures [of deaths of trans people] find reams of accidental and natural deaths being misrepresented at ‘deaths because they were trans.'” Yes, police investigations of police shootings find they are justified; findings of suicide are never filed in murder cases, except when single vehicle accidents are never suicide; no drug overdoses are so-called “hot shots.” Right-wingers cannot be assumed to critically analyze data. (Incidentally, using percentages to justify using “many” is not good judgment when the total numbers involved are relatively small. Small samples give large errors, statistics tells us. This error may be more common in people pleading for help for trans people?]

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 5 2024 0:16 utc | 95

Produced two items today, “Lavrov’s Knowledge Day History Lesson”, and “Zhang Weiwei: This is China: Deng Xiaoping”. Otherwise, lots happening in Vladivostok today that will soon get reported. The day started at 0900 for the Commander in Chief as he took a boat ride to inspect the location of the new shipyard planned for the region. Here’s part of what the Kremlin said about the event:

Before visiting the base, Vladimir Putin from the boat inspected the site in the Intermediate Bay, where it is planned by 2031 to build a new shipyard. The implementation of the project was entrusted to President of VTB Bank and the United Shipbuilding Corporation. The company will specialize in the merchant marine (bulk carriers, tankers, container ships, LNG carriers). The construction site is located on the border of the city of Vladivostok, which will contribute to the provision of of the future shipyard with labor resources. Other benefits include proximity road (including railway) and engineering infrastructure, the possibility of connecting gas and increasing energy capacity.
The President was accompanied by First Deputy Prime Minister Denis Manturov and Governor of the Primorye Territory Oleg Kozhemyako, President and Chairman of the Management Board of VTB Bank Andrey Kostin, Chairman of the Board of Directors of USC Andrey Puchkov.

The photoshoot can be viewed here.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 5 2024 0:35 utc | 97

@ Posted by: Roger | Sep 4 2024 19:52 utc | 71
I can’t respond line by line but I have to say that your anger betrays a conservative disposition that is not aligned with the facts and your reading of my comment is so infused by that disposition that you wind up misreading it. The point is not that minors are not able to learn about puberty or sentience, but that reactionaries here oppose the bodily autonomy of youth, and insist that children are the property of their parents (which is what “parental rights”, a set of rights established by no statutes and respected by no international organizations, as opposed to the rights of children, is ultimately equivalent to). W/r/t homeless youth, LGBT youth are in fact greatly disproportionately represented in the statistics, largely owing to abusive home situations. It is not “unfounded hyperbole” to note that many LGBT youth are abused at home. It’s just a fact, especially in the US south. Things have improved, but they are backsliding as the mechanisms of inclusion have been attacked by reactionary political forces, which for some reason you share a line with.
The statistics on detransition are that it seldom occurs, and the vast majority of patients, up to 99% in some studies, never express regret for transitioning. I don’t believe for a second that there’s any vague “manipulation” going on pushing people towards changing their gender. That’s far more unfounded than anything I’ve said 😛
I also don’t think Freud was meaningfully debunked, especially not by mid-20th century psychology. Every so often there is a Freudian revival, and the recurrence of Freudianism suggests there’s either something to it, or the whole field of psychology is bunk. But I do believe intuitively that there is a link between sexual repression and the formation of authoritarian personalities, and you can see it in this comment section.
Pornography is its own question. The porn industry reflects and reproduces an alienated sexuality, but there is also nothing inherently immoral about jerking off to images, now is there? I don’t see one, anyway, if all your work is done and you’ve got nothing better to do.

Your group-level condemnation of Christians is explicitly hate speech, defining a group by a shared characteristic such as sex, ethnicity, religion etc.

I’m merely taking them at their word and at the word of their holy book. I’m sure there are plenty of good christians out there, but for every one of them, there seems to be nine bad ones. I’m wealthy enough, intellectually, to afford to generalize.
And finally,

The anarchism of Emma Goldman was the exact opposite of Lenin’s project that successfully gained power in the Soviet Union

Who cares? I’m more concerned with her North American work, where her “idealism” (as opposed to the hard-nosed materialism that ultimately bequeathed Stalinism onto the world and helped crush communism globally before sputtering out in 1989) put her on the side of the working class and opposed to the ruling class’s moral and religious hypocrisy. Emma Goldman did more work against censorship and against the state’s repression of bodily autonomy than any Marxist-Leninist alive today sans perhaps Raul Castro, who oversees the military of one of the most LGBT friendly regimes in the world, to the chagrin, I guess, of socially conservative Stalinists abroad.

Posted by: fnord | Sep 5 2024 0:39 utc | 99