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September 18, 2024
Israel’s Pager Attack – A Sophisticated One-Times Shot With Little Effect

Yesterday's terrorist attack by Israel against Hizbullah in Lebanon was quite sophisticated.

Back in February Hizbullah had urged its affiliates to avoid smart-phones, which can be controlled by foreign intelligence services, and to instead use pagers to receive text messages and alarms when necessary.

Israel must have recognized that suggestion as a chance to infiltrate the supply chain for these communication tools.

It somehow managed to manipulate pager shipments to Lebanon some of which would be acquired by Hizbullah and its affiliates. Yesterday specific encoded messages were sent to the manipulated pagers. Some moments later they started to blow up. Eleven people were killed and some 4,000 were wounded.

Not all people killed or wounded were members of Hizbullah. Pagers are also used by emergency and volunteer services. Western media avoid to call this attack a terrorist operation. But just ask yourself how they would describe the attack if this had happened to the other side of the conflict.

Pagers are not an exclusive means of Hizbullah. The attack was indiscriminate. The explosions happened in many situations of daily life – during visits in shops (vid), in driving cars in the middle of traffic, near to bystanders including children.

The pagers were sold under the brand name of Gold Apollo, a Taiwanese company specialized in such devices. But, according to the company, the devices sold in Lebanon were manufactured under license by the Hungarian company BAC Consulting KFT.

Lowkey writes:

The CEO and founder of BAC is Cristiana Arcidiacono-Barsony, who describes herself as a strategic adviser in internal affairs with international experience in the Middle East.

According to her academic profile she studied at SOAS and LSE universities in London.

The above points to an MI-6 involvement in the affair.

Elijah Magnier reports (vid) that the delivery of the pagers had been held up for several months by customs in a Middle Eastern country. The time was allegedly used by Israeli services to dismantle the devices and to replace their original Lithium-Ion batteries with ones which included explosives and birdshot to create a maximum of damage. The electronics of the devices were manipulated to trigger delayed explosions after the pager received a certain coded message.

This very sophisticated operations must have cost millions and must have involved a quite large number of specialists.

It would have been ideal for Israel to trigger such a mayhem as part of a general attack on Hizbullah. It would have increased Hizbullah's time to implement its defense plans.

To trigger the attack outside of a large scale war context is a rather limp maneuver. Most of the wounded will soon recuperate and return to their duties.

Israeli officials claim that they triggered the operation because some Hizbullah members had found out about the explosives and would soon alarm their leadership. It was thus a 'use it or lose it' situation.

That though does not sound plausible to me. How would Israel know that Hizbullah members found out about it? If they had so why would they not immediately inform their command of the imminent danger?

It is more plausible that the Netanyahoo government used the attack as a means to silence it critics which demand an all out attack on Hizbullah. The Israeli military and Netanyahoo know that a war with Hizbullah would be theirs to lose.

Now they can say: "See, we are already doing something very very serious …"

But that wad has been blown for little effect. It was a one time shot. They chances to repeat such an operation are close to nil.

Tomorrow Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah will publicly offer more information about the incident and its possible consequences.

Comments

Somber@1659
Yes, your somber self-realization is quite apt, while your hopium-infused perspective as to an Izzy incursion into south Lebanon is holier than a chunk of Swiss-cheese.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 18 2024 17:07 utc | 201

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I’m lost. Why would i2s protocol have any place in this? Or batteries? Remotely detonating ieds wasn’t a problem for homeless iraqis, why would it be so complicated for the highest funded spy agency on the planet? Slap in an explosive and run 2 wires to a chip that receives anywhere from 136-520ish Mhz and choose a range that’s not commonly used. Not exactly difficult aside from the whole infiltration of either manufacturing or shipping or storage aspect of it.
On another note, wow hasbara shills are out en mass today. Making attempts to persuade a group to ignore both facts and morals in some attempt to what? Change people’s minds? Convince them to believe obvious otan zion agitrop they currently already see through? Have people begin to cheerlead genocidal adventures of their goverments that they already despise?
Their presence is a testament to the clear failure of their ideals and governments.
Oh, someone posted about how yisrael is glorious and achieving a clear victory over the brown people in tents, I guess my world view is wrong and I’ll now cheerlead zionists too. Will say no one ever.
Enjoy spending your shekels now, your currency and nation will be vastly different in a few years.

Posted by: NJH | Sep 18 2024 17:09 utc | 202

Humiliated Hezbollah disorganized.
Posted by: Somber | Sep 18 2024 16:59 utc | 196
Of all the assumptions we can make that is not one.
Hezbollah, the core fighting force is in Southern Lebanon on the ‘border’ opposing the IDF.
If the IDF assumes it can cross into Southern Lebanon without being ambushed every step of the way, it’s in for a rude surprise.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 17:11 utc | 203

“It would have been ideal for Israel to trigger such a mayhem as part of a general attack on Hizbullah. It would have increased Hizbullah’s time to implement its defense plans.
To trigger the attack outside of a large scale war context is a rather limp maneuver. Most of the wounded will soon recuperate and return to their duties.”
b.
Absolutely

Posted by: canuck | Sep 18 2024 17:12 utc | 204

Russian MFA’s statement as reported by RT:
“This was a monstrous act of terrorism, monstrous in its cynicism and its scale, considering the large number of victims.”
There’s no doubting that was the case. Furthermore:
“All people responsible… must be held accountable, so that this new act of terrorism is not ‘swept under the rug’ the way the Western nations want to steer the investigation of the explosions at the Nord Stream gas pipelines.”
IMO, this act will show the world which nations totally support Zionist Terrorism simply by noting which condemn the attack and which don’t.
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zeke2u | Sep 18 2024 16:43 utc | 179–
Thanks for your reply. I’ve admired Ansarallah’s abilities for many years and know the Yemenies at one time had rather sophisticated military science and production capabilities. However, the questions Marat posed are quite pertinent. The key question for me is can they be reproduced in Yemen or Lebanon? Furthermore, Iran, Lebanon, and Yemen all share similar topographies–robust mountain ranges capable of housing very large subterranean complexes they’ve all had many years to develop. So, I’d expect them to share experiences in construction and the camouflaging of firing point apertures. There’s far more to this than just building the missile.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2024 17:15 utc | 205

They are a size format for a user with specific needs.
Posted by: rk | Sep 18 2024 17:05 utc | 199

I’m sitting less that 2 meters from an Icom handset. It is tiny and packed with features. The user manual is over 100 pages. Handy-talkies are extremely competitive market with no room for fat like handsets that are bigger than they need to be.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2024 17:16 utc | 206

Exlusive : Banderists stated they’re gonna equip their FPV drones with Lebanese Pagers instead of RPG’s round 🙂
/s

Posted by: Savonarole | Sep 18 2024 17:16 utc | 207

Humiliated Hezbollah disorganized.
Posted by: Somber | Sep 18 2024 16:59 utc | 196
Nothing that has happened in Lebanon limits Iran’s ability to enter the war. In fact, these electronic terrorist attacks strengthen Iran’s moral position. China, Russia and the rest of the world – outside the brainwashed West – have a much more negative view of Israel today.
The Islamic Republic will not remain on the sidelines if Hizbollah needs help.

Posted by: EoinW | Sep 18 2024 17:17 utc | 208

“I am looking for an explanation of what exactly is going on.
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 16:31 utc | 161”
Possibly “shaping the battlefield”
Possibly creating a distraction to keep all eyes over “here” while pulling some other shit over “there”

Posted by: Mary | Sep 18 2024 17:18 utc | 209

@Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 16:48 utc | 181
Oh…almost forgot…
Water meters installed on US homes and their attendant Israeli software for remote water usage reading
give Mossad/CIA a back door for spying.
If Mossad/CIA wants to enter a house undetected they can learn when the house is unoccupied by remote viewing
the water usage history.
It can also produce estimates of how many occupants there are in a home.

Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 17:20 utc | 210

Nobody Special | Sep 18 2024 16:49 utc | 184–
I’ve never accused Arabs of being low IQ, and don’t appreciate those sorts of accusations put into my mouth.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2024 17:20 utc | 211

always know when b hits something out of the ballpark by how fast and prolific the trolls show up chatting with each other. lucky us.

Posted by: annie | Sep 18 2024 17:20 utc | 212

Israel could shut off the water to US homes with the flip of a switch.
Don’t have any idea how extensive their infiltration has been,
that Thanksgiving was about a decade ago, I believe.
Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 16:48 utc | 181
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I am leery of any “smart” appliances or technology anywhere in my environment (home, car). My apartment is in a 100 years funky building and my car is 28 hears old.
It is incredible that (anecdotal evidence) Germans are all in on the idea of “smart” homes and flats. Even in the former East.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 18 2024 17:22 utc | 213

142 Roger that. Yup, airplane security and boarding is going to get a lot worse. The bloom will be off of Israeli tech and IT (except for police forces, etc. etc.)
Having first installed Linux in 99, this hobbyist has not seen any recent spike in usage by JoeandJane consumer of opensource OS’s. Yes there is the Purism line, the Librem5 phone, etc. but limitations and being one step behind is noted on various posts on PlanetDebian and probably elsewhere.
I had high hopes for Huawei when they came out with their opensource OS which at first was to be an Android competitor. But Huawei products is basically banned in usOfa. And then there is learning curves, who is going to develop all those apps … I do not seem to find a GitHub or download site in English, I am sure they do have it in Chinese.
via https://www.knowyourmobile.com/phones/operating-systems/what-is-harmonyos/
“”HarmonyOS is an impressive piece of software, conceptually. The design and the thought process that has gone into it to make it not only scalable across multiple types of devices but also very easy to develop for is commendable.
It does have certain USPs over both Android and iOS in this context. A developer can literally create an app for one device and it’ll scale across all types of HarmonyOS-powered devices, and that is really cool.
But it has one massive problem: 99.9% of users – especially those in the west – are accustomed to using Google services (Chrome, Gmail, The Google Play Store, Drive) and without these things, HarmonyOS is effectively unusable.””
The exploit might just be the kick in the testicles to spur development in Asia, Iran, etc of HarmonyOS. Might have some impact on ARM architecture, but in the west, we are strait-jacketed into the closed source OS’s and their numerous exploits.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Sep 18 2024 17:22 utc | 214

Don’t forget, rumour has it Israel planted nukes in many of the world’s capitals…

Posted by: Mushroom | Sep 18 2024 17:23 utc | 215

Why would i2s protocol have any place in this? Or batteries?
Posted by: NJH | Sep 18 2024 17:09 utc | 202

The radio has to preserve its normal functionality or it won’t be used or carried.
Its easy to add the explosive feature to a simple pager. To a modern radio handset? Not so much.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2024 17:23 utc | 216

“Humiliated Hezbollah disorganized…”
Posted by: Somber | Sep 18 2024 16:59 utc | 196
Let’s follow through with your logic. You say Hizbollah is disorganized-OK let’s give you that premise.
If Israel does not invade Southern Lebanon today or tomorrow we know that Hizbollah is not that disorganized or we would have seen the invasion by now.
Hence, your idea the product of a juvenile or malicious mind or both.

Posted by: canuck | Sep 18 2024 17:25 utc | 217

According to the Axios portal, Israel did not inform the US about the preparation of the operation
WASHINGTON, September 17./ The explosions of pagers in Lebanon were approved during meetings of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with members of the government and the country’s security leadership, reports the Axios portal, citing sources.
According to him, the operation was approved earlier this week. The source claims that the Israeli leadership decided to expand the objectives of the conflict to include the return of displaced Israelis to their homes on the border with Lebanon.
Two US officials told Axios that Israel did not inform the US about the preparations for the operation. Israeli officials told the portal that Israel was aware of the risk of serious escalation as a result of the incident, and the Israeli military was on high alert in case of a possible response from the Shiite Hezbollah movement.

Posted by: ossi | Sep 18 2024 17:27 utc | 218

Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 16:48 utc | 181
It would take 15 minutes for a professional to bypass every metering appliance with a shunt/bypass.

Posted by: Mario | Sep 18 2024 17:28 utc | 219

I am leery of any “smart” appliances or technology anywhere in my environment (home, car).
@Posted by: Jane | Sep 18 2024 17:22 utc | 213
ditto
Also, I cannot fathom what people are thinking when they install an Alexa or some such device
in their homes. Are they reverse voyeurs or something?

Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 17:29 utc | 220

Re: invasion to the Litani River ?
First the IDF needs to cross the 30-50km cleared zone South of the Lebanese border. 🤣

Posted by: Exile | Sep 18 2024 17:29 utc | 221

“You’ll get a bang from Israeli products !”

Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 17:30 utc | 222

This is what you get for playing the long game.
What’s your next move Nasrallah?

Use it, or lose it.
Arch Bungle | 104:
But wait a minute, Arch. These devices were set up months ago. Israel could have triggered them as soon as they were handed out, or they could have waited months longer before doing anything with them.
You sound like you are blaming Nasrallah – like if he had acted against Israel sooner, it would have made a difference.
Suppose he had bombed the fuck out of Israel a month ago. So what? Well, then Israel would still have had explosive devices to trigger once Hezbollah started using the devices.
The only thing that would have made a difference is if Nasrallah somehow KNEW that all these devices were booby-trapped… and he did not. See what I mean? At some point, Israel would have triggered the stuff and it would have just all blown up on a different day.

Posted by: teri | Sep 18 2024 17:31 utc | 223

Just a thought:
I can see future consumer appliances coming as transparent IKEA blocks from now on.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 17:31 utc | 224

Quoted by karlof1 @ 105: “…but where did Iran get all this [rocket technology]…?”
So Russians are as pigheadedly arrogant and exceptionalist as Americans. This is ironic as Russia is still just a faint remnant of the Soviet Union themselves and not the technological powerhouse the USSR was. Even their new weapons are ones where the bulk of the developmental heavy lifting had already been done by the Soviets.
(Aside: No, Russians are not Soviets. They are a much diminished culture and society compared with the Soviets)
Is it not possible that Iran has some real engineers who can work with mathematics and understand “special gas-dynamic profiles”? What is so far-fetched about that? Maybe even the Houthis have children who take their math classes seriously and pursued their dreams of being rocket scientists. The field isn’t locked to people with pale skin tones, after all.

Posted by: William Gruff | Sep 18 2024 17:32 utc | 225

Are they reverse voyeurs or something?
Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 17:29 utc | 220
The term is “Exhibitionist”.
Don’t ask me how I know …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 17:32 utc | 226

Hezbollah disorganized…
Hezbollah’s decentralized command is what makes it so effective.

Posted by: Keme | Sep 18 2024 17:34 utc | 227

@Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 17:32 utc | 226
Hmm…I see…
🙂

Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 17:34 utc | 228

I was just in shock.
It showed that if you buy things from the Outlaw empire and its allies, there is a possibility that a bomb ‘planned by government intelligence’ is planted in them, right?
It was same to telling non-Western countries not to buy electronics from the West, because you never know when a bomb might be planted in them.
Am I overreacting?
But I was very shocked by this Israeli terror attack.
Maybe I am being too shocked, but I think that if people in the world take this incident as an opportunity to think about themselves, especially those in non-Western countries, they will gradually move away from Western electric products in their lives.
I don’t want to have anything around me where I don’t know when a western imperialist collaborator might plant a bomb in the manufacturing process.

Posted by: Nokaz | Sep 18 2024 17:35 utc | 229

It is incredible that (anecdotal evidence) Germans are all in on the idea of “smart” homes and flats. Even in the former East.
Posted by: Jane | Sep 18 2024 17:22 utc | 213
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What do you mean by EVEN in the East?
I live in the East and I know one thing… German bureaucracy and legislation for building law gives you no chance of getting around it. German bureaucracy can almost be seen as a weapon against its own people. 12,000 new civil servants, appointed according to their ideology, are to make action and restructuring impossible, similar to Trump in the USA in Germany if the AfD won the election. An unwilling civil servant is more dangerous than a grenade, and he doesn’t even need to actively do anything, it’s enough if he does NOTHING.
As for building law, you can’t build a house or a building in Germany without radio readings for energy, water and gas, you can’t install a heating system without permission and you can’t put a chimney in operation!

Posted by: ossi | Sep 18 2024 17:35 utc | 230

Breaking news
Carrier pigeons are exploding across Lebanon

Posted by: crimson | Sep 18 2024 17:35 utc | 231

@ Posted by: paxmark1 | Sep 18 2024 17:22 utc | 214

You know that your cell phone runs two separate and distinct OSs right? One runs on the modem and it is under the control of the network service provider.
The OS that runs on the modem boots the phone into a hypervisor upon which Android/iOS or whatever runs. The hypervisor has full control of all the features of the hardware through shared memory.
It is very very difficult to secure a cellphone.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2024 17:36 utc | 232

Re the other devices that seem to be exploding.
From b’s article –
“Elijah Magnier reports (vid) that the delivery of the pagers had been held up for several months by customs in a Middle Eastern country. The time was allegedly used by Israeli services to dismantle the devices and to replace their original Lithium-Ion batteries with ones which included explosives and birdshot to create a maximum of damage. The electronics of the devices were manipulated to trigger delayed explosions after the pager received a certain coded message.”
Why would a shipment of pages be coming in through another mid eastern country where it is held up for some months in customs rather than shipping direct to Lebanon. That is very odd. But if it is the case then shipments of other devises could have been shipped in the same way and the same thing done to them, by why would anyone ship through another country where the shipment will be held in customs of that country for some months?
That whole story about customs in another country could be correct but very suspicious and doubtful at the moment for those reasons. If it was customs in Lebanon where the shipments are held up then that is another story altogether and quite plausible.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 17:37 utc | 233

Suppose he had bombed the fuck out of Israel a month ago. So what? Well, then Israel would still have had explosive devices to trigger once Hezbollah started using the devices
Posted by: teri | Sep 18 2024 17:31 utc | 223
You’re making my argument for me, teri.
If he’d bombed the fuck out of Israhell 6 or more months ago either of two things would have happened:
a) The Mossad/Shin-Bet would have been too busy trying to maintain internal stability and preventing border infiltration to engage in this mass compromise of the entire Lebanese supply chain.
b) Israhell would have been pushed to “use it or lose it” much sooner, before the network of compromised devices grew to the current level. Fewer casualties. Smaller Impact.
No benefit is ever derived from giving the enemy time to think and plan. The way to win is to keep the enemy so inundated with issues that they’re fully occupied dealing with one surprise after another.
Hope that makes sense …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 17:38 utc | 234

Journalist Youssef Fares
“Lebanese Ministry of Health: 9 martyrs and more than 300 injured in explosions that targeted wireless devices in Lebanon today.”
Still no technical report on mechanisms. It is necessary that this be reported so that all are able to take appropriate caution or are able to verify the safety of their appliances.
National authorities of western countries. You are bound to reporting on questions of appliance safety. You have said nothing although you are surely aware of the detail.
These are serious failings.
To delay to try to manage presentation is also a failing. It speaks of trying to protect the reputation of “Israel” by not even reassuring that the methods used are limited, due to the insinuation of responsibility.
I don’t say this out of fear, it is plain common sense. The impression though is that uncertainty and confusion is being encouraged.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 18 2024 17:39 utc | 235

Why would a shipment of pages be coming in through another mid eastern country where it is held up for some months in customs rather than shipping direct to Lebanon.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 17:37 utc | 233

Sanctions.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2024 17:39 utc | 236

Many different electronic devices seem to be exploding in Lebanon, this may be much bigger than just pagers. That would make it an absolutely horrific terrorist attack upon the general population of Lebanon, just incredible. What the hell does Israel and their Western backers think they will get from this other than utter condemnation by the rest of the world? Who are the terrorists now, will Western media still celebrate this “innovative” large scale terrorism?

Posted by: Roger | Sep 18 2024 17:42 utc | 237

In the front, in the defense, in tunnels, caves, bunkers is a WW1 style war you do not need radio-com, in fact in many many cases is even not possible, and I think Hezb is using wiring com in the front because he must a system in place that could withstand an EMP attack or a very powerful and sofisticate EW systems from the sionists (Israelis and Americans), so if the IDF think they have blinded the Hezb brigades in the front they will receive a surprise as the brits in the first day of the Somme Battle.
The million dollar question is if the missiles Hezb has contains any western chip, from TSMC or any other Korean or American company, because they sell weaponized chips with CIA/Mossad kill switches and backdoors and also the software used have the same backdoors, we will see if they start to malfunction or not, I suppose the Iranians and Russians have avoided these chips but I am not sure (miniaturization is a dangerous trend)
But they always have the rough Saggers and RPG-7!

Posted by: Dave | Sep 18 2024 17:43 utc | 238

The question that the United Nations needs to discuss is how it came about that the pagers in the American Hospital in Beirut were changed out ten days before the mass detonation?
The Americans knew, and were obviously complicit.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Sep 18 2024 17:43 utc | 239

@ teri | Sep 18 2024 17:31 utc | 223
Your logic is sound and highlights the futility of Iran/Hizbollah’s strategy of holding back.
Apparently the war of attrition is going on to avoid provoking a nuclear response from Israel. But it doesn’t matter whether they use their nukes today or tomorrow. If they are barbaric enough to use nukes then they will. Today, tomorrow, next month…etc.
Thus there is no point in Iran/Hizbollah showing restraint. No moderate actions will deter their lunatic enemy.
BTW the same logic applies to the threat of a US first strike. If they are insane enough to use nukes then they will use them, regardless of Russian actions. I wish the Russians would give Putin a serious wake up call.
Personally I favour the first strike option. Provided the US military targets Washington DC with that strike.

Posted by: EoinW | Sep 18 2024 17:44 utc | 240

As someone who has been expecting Nemesis to raise its head at Israel’s obvious hubris over the past year especially and recent history generally, I must say I am very surprised and disappointed in Hb’s obvious lack of security imagination here.
1) How is it possible that such a secretive and well-drilled organization did not thoroughly, and I mean thoroughly, investigate the F out of items as critical as hand held comm devices, especially KNOWING Iz’s obvious technical abilities in this area? Perhaps pop open and test out a reasonable sampling of the new shipment of devices each and every time???
2) How is it possible that, given what happened yesterday, hand held devices obviously uninvestigated were STILL being used today???
Shocking lack of smarts in security … many hundreds of potentially top level trusted people out of commission permanently.

Posted by: Caliman | Sep 18 2024 17:44 utc | 241

@Posted by: Giyane | Sep 18 2024 16:28 utc | 160
In a war one needs to address issues in an unemotional way, and certainly not throw meaningless slurs against those that deliver required messages. Any military organization facing up to the West and their vassals should understand completely that any technology from the West is undermined. There have been far too many revelations about this for anyone military organization to plead ignorance. Such naivety makes life much easier for their enemies and basic discipline needs to be instilled. You are the enemy of real revolution, that needs to learn from its mistakes and practice basic levels of security.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 18 2024 17:46 utc | 242

The pagers and walkie-talkies is for rearguard comunications, in the front they must use wiring comumications, this attack is to maim/wound/kill some Hezb forces in the rearguard, this will not affect the readiness of the front soldiers who are, by now, in full alert, and if the IDF try to attack (I don’t think so) they will suffer a huge defeat.
This attack is a recruiting campaign in the Shia world for the Resistance (of course the sunnis will not do anything from their brothers massacred in Gaza); all the Shia world understand what kind of enemy they are facing. A pure terrorist/genocidal state

Posted by: Dave | Sep 18 2024 17:49 utc | 243

To Saner (154)
Only perhaps in the Western propagandized West, among the other 7 billion not so much. And it is the latter which is the bigger market for Israeli and Western technological goods.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 18 2024 17:50 utc | 244

Video of building with several exploding radio devices inside.
Comparing the distance from the building with yesterday’s pager explosion, these seem much bigger/louder to me.

Posted by: Mary | Sep 18 2024 17:50 utc | 245

Shocking lack of smarts in security … many hundreds of potentially top level trusted people out of commission permanently.
Posted by: Caliman | Sep 18 2024 17:44 utc | 241
On the plus side there is a certain “Darwinian” logic at work here.
The next generation of Hezbollah leaders will be far more paranoid.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 17:50 utc | 246

Forgot the link!
https://t.me/intelslava/66697

Posted by: Mary | Sep 18 2024 17:51 utc | 247

To Librul (181)
The problem for Huawei was of course that they would not install spyware and that they were a direct threat to the US technology corporations that would (Cisco, Microsoft, Apple, Google etc.). I do not understand how a military organization does not understand this reality. Even the Swiss firm that supplied much of the world’s encryption technology was shown to be a Western front. A good number of the VPNs possibly used by commenters here are owned by Israeli companies.

Posted by: Roger | Sep 18 2024 17:51 utc | 248

William Gruff | Sep 18 2024 17:32 utc | 225–
Hi Bill. The Qs were Marat’s and I thought them sensible. In a later comment, I defend the fact that Arabs have smarts and have long exercised them. Personally, I want Ansarallah and Hezbollah to be capable of constructing such missiles and other sophisticated arms. If Ansarallah fires one weekly, then we can conclude they have a certain degree of capability. I’d expect Hezbollah to reserve use of its for the major Zionist offensive we all anticipate. And then there’s the big problem faced by USN and its carrier deployments where Ansarallah has vowed to target any carrier that comes within range.
The Zionists and their US allies cam conduct terrorist attacks, but are otherwise outgunned and out motivated.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2024 17:53 utc | 249

Posted by: observer | Sep 18 2024 15:42 utc | 115

I work with Arabs. Broadly speaking… they’re incompetent, are obsessed with hierarchies, and show little initiative.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 15:49 utc | 124

I agree, having worked with Arabs myself in the middle east.

Strange. My experience working with Arabs in Gulf countries over several years is that they are generally smart. Maybe you guys have worked in areas that don’t require much intelligence?
Btw, average IQ in Israel is 92.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 18 2024 17:54 utc | 250

too scents@1648
Perhaps those aerial “capabilities have (not) gone to seed. Totally true personal anecdote follows:
Just last night my friend and I were comfortably seated after ignition of a bonfire on the ridge top at my homestead, as we were celebrating and viewing the rise and the arc of Our Lady of the Heavens in full glory.
Shortly after the solar effect was completely dissolved into nightfall, we noticed a strangely and eerily set of aerobatic performances by an object, perhaps 700 to 900 feet altitude almost directly before us. Amazing maneuvers, including more than one where it made a sharp 90 degree right turn. Also jumps, flickerings, about-faces and similar movements…of which neither of us had previously been aware.
During all of this, we began to notice…well to the righthand side…yet another such object which mostly hovered and continuously blinked.
That display was followed in a few minutes time by a THIRD emanation off to the left…one which rapidly approached the first iteration…and then momentarily was lost from view…and then reappeared well to the lower-left side from the first object. That approach to the initial “vehicle” initially appeared to be aggressive…even in attack mode.
But that first object simply kept keeping on…and on.
Over the course of an hour or more, those antics continued…with the brief appearances of at least two more objects which soon faded into a northerly direction.
We were distracted…can you believe that??? from our primary goal, the close observation and adoration of the gradual accession of Our Lady of the Heavens…a purely spiritual undertaking emanating from the realization that all are One and that One is All and that the whole is equal to yet greater than, the sum of its parts.
Current conflicts are closely connected with a massive shift in Cosmic time cycles. Both astronomers and astrologers are quite aware of the purport of these cycles. There are those powers and principalities who do fear that their reigns over humanity is threatened by those accelerating changes.
Recently, research has indicated that over the past several days, U$$A Airfarce maneuvers all across the skies of North America are taking place at a level of intensity which has not occurred for many years.
Last night’s display was not one of manned aircraft. To plan out and to implement such maneuvers…and specific targeting of one single, initially sparking and then devolving into a slow, steady burn in a highly protected pit…was probably spotted by one or more “eyes in the sky” and may well have inculcated those displays by several “fireflies” which most likely involved several highly active keyboards by highly trained specialists.
My speculation is that there are those who were disturbed by such an open display of quasi-ceremonial observances of the messages from the heavens…decided to expose their own countervailing “lightshow” to demonstrate that DARPA and other captured developmental assertions of rationalist, materialist and scientistic assaults on the natural world and even of Cosmic Connectivity…happens to be at a higher level of power than the profound reality that All that IS in One.
Some posters and several “visitors” may consider this account to be worthy of nothing more than ridicule and disparagement.
Personally, I am one who does not concoct tall tales…rather an individual who diligently shares honest accounts of direct experience. Were he posting on MoA, my friend might offer a more precise accounting, as he is blessed with photographic memory.
Blessed Be…All those who would be FREE. It’s about time.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 18 2024 17:56 utc | 251

Such power is in these devices looks at the table
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https://t.me/dva_majors/52952?single

Posted by: ossi | Sep 18 2024 17:57 utc | 252

Arch – Very true re the next gen … but I would have thought this gen would have been pretty up to speed, given what has happened to Iranian scientists and the phone targeting of their own folks. Really weird stuff, this vulnerability.

Posted by: Caliman | Sep 18 2024 17:57 utc | 253

Expansive supply chains are key to the “globalist” business model as developed over the past 30 years. Literally weaponizing consumer products will severely impact confidence in this model, with attendant long-term consequences particularly for the West.
Also – long been weary of the armchair strategists since 2014 demanding immediate escalation, in Ukraine, in Mid-east, when it has been plain as day that is exactly what NATO/Israel has desired all along. Self-delusion / self-defeat seems baked into their “smart power” concepts, so the attrition approach is strategically sound and avoids a total war disaster.

Posted by: jayc | Sep 18 2024 17:58 utc | 254

12,000 new civil servants, appointed according to their ideology, are to make action and restructuring impossible, similar
Posted by: ossi | Sep 18 2024 17:35 utc | 230
How they select them by their ideology. How do they do that?

Posted by: vargas | Sep 18 2024 17:59 utc | 255

@Mary | Sep 18 2024 17:18 utc | 209
I am seeking technical explanations of what is going on, not vacuous “shaping the battlefield”.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 18:01 utc | 256

karlof1 | Sep 18 2024 17:15 utc | 205
As for Yemen producing advanced missiles, the infrastructure for the supply chain would be extensive. So apart from what Marat outlines, there is the required infrastructure to consider. Impossible under the conditions Yemen has been through.
Iran has plenty of missile and electronics experience plus necessary infrastructure and could undertake other needed for supersonic. The Kinzhal is considered semi ballistic I I would assume Iranian missile tech the same the missiles I saw hit Israel would have been ballistic or semi ballistic and maneuvered evasively on the terminal dive. Possibly a powered dive.
Fuel? Likely Russia. Russia has been researching and testing since early 2000’s and I believe first test flight of a hypersonic missile was also in early 2000s from already long Running R%D. So a good 15 years or more from a single test of one style of hypersonic missile to first production and deployment.
I also remember a number of Russian rocket scientists blowing themselves up, I think sometime before first deployment. I have assumed they were cooking up rocket juice.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 18:01 utc | 257

Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 17:20 utc | 210
Re: Water meters.
I’d say the same applies to electrical “smart meters”.
You could very easily tell when people are there, and approximately how many. Furthermore, some do have remote load element control and can be switched on and off by the network operators, which would be relatively easy to hack as many have a Sim/eSim module inside.

Posted by: Jon_in,_AU | Sep 18 2024 18:02 utc | 258

12,000 new civil servants, appointed according to their ideology, are to make action and restructuring impossible, similar
Posted by: ossi | Sep 18 2024 17:35 utc | 230
How they select them by their ideology. How do they do that?
Posted by: vargas | Sep 18 2024 17:59 utc | 256
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Well that’s easy… party affiliation SPD / or Green is one possibility.
As an AFD member you have real problems at work in Germany.
That was the case in 1937 if you were in the KPD Communist Party, history repeats itself…

Posted by: ossi | Sep 18 2024 18:03 utc | 259

Carrier pigeons are exploding across Lebanon
Posted by: crimson | Sep 18 2024 17:35 utc | 231

crimson nails it!

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2024 18:04 utc | 260

@librul | Sep 18 2024 17:20 utc | 210
I have refused installation of such water meter twice already. They don’t ask for permission, they just say when they are coming. I have to tell them “I will not open the door for you to install surveillance equipment in my home”.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 18:05 utc | 261

Also, I cannot fathom what people are thinking when they install an Alexa or some such device
in their homes. Are they reverse voyeurs or something?
Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 17:29 utc | 220

The Powers That Should Not Be have long observed the human trait of swapping agency for convenience.
Especially if it is done in tiny, imperceptible steps or for ‘your safety and security’.
Add in predatory, neo-liberal capitalism alongside the Society of the Spectacle and here we are.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Sep 18 2024 18:05 utc | 262

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 15:49 utc | 124
I agree, having worked with Arabs myself in the middle east.
Strange. My experience working with Arabs in Gulf countries over several years is that they are generally smart. Maybe you guys have worked in areas that don’t require much intelligence?
Btw, average IQ in Israel is 92.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Sep 18 2024 17:54 utc | 251
I’m not contending that Arabs are less intelligent, in fact I’ve worked with some highly intelligent Arabs (Egyptians, Syrians, Lebanese).
The Gulf Arabs (Emiratis, Saudis) come across as vapid and overly relaxed, probably due to being treated as state welfare cattle from birth to death.
I’m stating that the culture is so laid back, so lacking in urgency and desire to compete that if it came down to a battle of survival between competing states these people would be like sheep to the slaughter.
It won’t make sense until you compare one cultural group against another, for example your average mainland Chinese, Singaporean or Indian.
There are exceptions to every rule but in the end we’re comparing aggregate behavioural trends.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 18:05 utc | 263

Yesterday I was about to make a joke about the statement from hezbollah
“that Hezbollah has ANOTHER SECURE system.”
I thirst thought that implying the exploding one secure was a translation error.
Guess they were not mincing words, it was another equally secure system.
Secured by israel and us…

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 18 2024 18:07 utc | 264

Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 17:38 utc | 234
If Hezbollah launch full attack on Israel, then US is instantly involved. For Israel, US is quite likely to use nukes. If Israel attacks Lebanon then unlikely US will become involved.
Hezbollah needs Israel to come to them and defeat them in Lebanon and Israel requires Hezbollah to come to Israel or launch full fledged strikes on Israel so I think that is why we see this stand off sniping.
The current terrorist attack is likely designed to provoke Hezbollah into doing something that will draw the US in. Very similar to what is occurring in the Ukraine theater.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 18:08 utc | 265

karlof1@1705
Quite possible that the Iranians learned much from the Viet Cong with their tunnels at Cu Chi. Realizing that their mountainous terrain was far more propitious for underground installations…while under constant attempts by the CIA and other nefarious instruments of the ruling financier “elite” to degrade and ultimately demolish their revolutionary developments; they created…and shared…totally world-class sub-surface facilities even more intricate and protected than those naval pens which Sweden created decades ago.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 18 2024 18:09 utc | 266

@ Ornot | Sep 18 2024 17:39 utc | 235
Agreed, those are my concerns as well.

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 18:12 utc | 267

I cannot fathom what people are thinking when they install an Alexa or some such device
in their homes.
Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 17:29 utc | 220

These morons are the training set for AI.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2024 18:12 utc | 268

Of what is currently known, the impact is quite high but so far there are no indications that Hezbollah’s existence is in jeopardy. The lesson taken here by the axis of resistance (Iran, Khatib Hizbollah, Syrians, Houthi’s, etc.) would be that the supply chain of all communication devices goes through Iran where thorough and proper validation is carried out.
Tampering with them, computer and encryption devices while in transit has been a decade old practice by the USA, Brits, etc.
There’s a reason why Waze is head quartered in Zionazi Tel Aviv.

Posted by: xor | Sep 18 2024 18:14 utc | 269

10 years ago I have read the Brooking excrement named ‘ >The road to Persia’.
All is there

Posted by: stranger | Sep 18 2024 18:15 utc | 270

caliman@1744
Some astute points and perspectives…good on you for that. Yet, I’m not so sure that “hundreds” of Hezbollah activists have been “permanently” made “hors de combat”. If you have sources highly indicative of such a possibility, please do share here.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 18 2024 18:16 utc | 271

Arch Bungle | Sep 18 2024 18:05 utc | 264
Regarding that laidback culture. I have noticed that in Arab regular militaries. Some individuals outside this norm. In the likes of Hezbollah, I see something different. A very professional outfit.
But they are also surrounded by that laid back culture which would be easy for the likes of Mossad to penetrate. Similar I think in Iran.
Yemen – the Houthi’s seem very tight knit and difficult for spooks to penetrate.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 18:17 utc | 272

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 18:01 utc | 257
Me too. The technical part is the most interesting.
But since Snowden we know that the US has intercepted shipments of various electronic parts or wholly assembled devices to implant surveillance chips.
So I also assume it’s equally possible and probable to intercept shipments to implant explosives as long as you have the means (i.e. $$$).
There is no doubt that this is a terrorist attack, and it also shows the power of the Israeli secret services to effectively implement and execute such sophisticated attacks.
Never underestimate your enemy, especially if it is well-funded and has top class access to every technology it deems useful for its means.

Posted by: Verdant | Sep 18 2024 18:17 utc | 273

What the hell does Israel and their Western backers think they will get from this other than utter condemnation by the rest of the world?
Posted by: Roger | Sep 18 2024 17:42 utc | 237
INDEED.
If anyone praises this terrorist attack as some kind of a clever move, he should be considered crazy.
Do they not consider how this incident will look to the outside of the West?
If Western authorities accept this Israeli move, they are self-promoting Western imperialism as the most untrustworthy civilisation on earth.
Sending bombs for indiscriminate attacks mixed in with its products is “allowed”.
How do ordinary people deal with someone who exposes such value standards?
If me, keep them away as much as possible.
So I believe that some of the authorities in the Global South and BRICS will increasingly look to non-Western sources for the tools they use in their own lives.
The modern West appears to care nothing about eroding their own future credibility.

Posted by: Nokaz | Sep 18 2024 18:18 utc | 274

After the 1979 Iranian Revolution, waves of Iranians educated for and employed in American engineering and scientific jobs returned to Iran. That was 45 years ago.
Posted by: Nobody Special | Sep 18 2024 16:49 utc | 184
After the 1979 Iranian Revolution, waves of educated Iranians left too, and came to the US. Wonder if the Iranian Revolution was net beneficial or net drain on educated Iranians.

Posted by: Phil R | Sep 18 2024 18:19 utc | 275

al jazeera.. Tuesday phone call USA and Israel defence ministers …and as part of conversation latter told former “something was going to happen” but did not reveal specifics…maybe did not wantto know?Plausable denial? Maybe this event was instead of a military operation USA does not advise . but just keep operation fear and terror continuing …if Hiz responds …then IDF escalates according to their own deluded reasoning ….

Posted by: Jo | Sep 18 2024 18:19 utc | 276

too scents | 216
I state device functionality has nothing to do with this. How a pager is in anyway easier than an HT is beyond me and my expertise in comms. Flowerpot, can of coffee, laptop, zero difference in difficulty to rig. Receiver-wire-ignitor. That’s it, no further integration required. Pagers would have in fact been more difficult due to their size and likely having to rely on existing antenna.
These Icom V82 HTs blowing up real good are plenty large enough to conceal whatever and the antenna is a bonus. Car stereos, and this digital fingerprint door lock I’m looking at that blew the whole wall in, are likewise not difficult to corrupt, they wouldn’t really need to integrate at all, not even to the antenna input, they could simply use the metal case of devices as an antenna, unlike pagers.
I’ve now seen confirmation of HTs, stereos, a solar generator, and a digital door lock blowing up real good. It’s apparent more supply chains than just a pager company have been compromised. If I was in lebanon syria or iran I’d be killing power and getting families away from any electronics acquired in the past 5 years while they’re individually disassembled and inspected. Blessings.

Posted by: NJH | Sep 18 2024 18:23 utc | 277

@Verdant | Sep 18 2024 18:17 utc | 274
Thanks for your thoughts.

So I also assume it’s equally possible and probable to intercept shipments to implant explosives as long as you have the means (i.e. $$$).

So, they have implanted explosives in virtually every appliance? What is the likelihood that has been done in Lebanon only?

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 18:26 utc | 278

Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 18:01 utc | 258–
Thanks for your reply. Agree there’re many complications and unanswered Qs. Putin announced Russia had hypersonics in 2004, but few listened or understood what that meant. Everything accelerates in wartime. What if Ansarallah engineers were shown how hypersonic systems work in either Iranian or Russian labs and provided with the technical specifications? The problem of special materials remains.
The newest problem of exploding electronic devices has provoked several very important observations which I commented about yesterday–technological sovereignty and its relationship to national security. Such devices produced domestically don’t need to be techie enough to compete on the global marketplace; rather, they need to function well enough to perform their tasks. If outsourcing is a must, then only buy from those nations you can trust like China and Russia.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2024 18:28 utc | 279

rk @ 106
I cannot identify that ICOM model but it has a bnc connector which makes me think its an older version or maybe a knock off. The batteries on those things are quite large and need to be replaced every so often. They have a battery management chip inside.
With that in mind I suspect that they mined the batteries and sold them into Hezbollah over some time waiting for the day they would want to detonate them. Then again they could have sold them the whole package or a combination of scenarios are possble.
The radio in the picture looks torn from the inside with the battery missing. The battery could have launched off the radio platorm if blown from the inside with a very small charge on the inside and then the battery itself itself would blow up off the platform in the air next to the victim.
Sort of like a bouncing betty mine. Just speculation….

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 18 2024 18:28 utc | 280

PeterAU1@1808
Hezbollah took some hits by being caught off guard. Evidently, they did not create a small cadre of inspectors to closely inspect incoming technology from the Collective Wa$te. That oversight will be assiduously corrected.
Next riposte from southern Lebanon will be a moderate expansion of current drone, rocket and missile strikes on closely calculated military objectives…only this go-round a bit deeper into that small shithole of a piratical principality.
Gradual imposition of existential fear upon the general populace…while carefully not striking civilian targets, per se, is a policy which does not axiomatically drag in the designated attack-dogs coming from an ocean away from the Muddle East.
Hezbollah will rapidly recover from the assault. Nasrallah and other higher commanders are anything but jejune fools. The Lebanese people have ancient roots as a highly developed civilization…in deep contrast to the Judaic, Talmudist enemies of humanity whose “religious” base was coopted from earlier and more advanced cultures. They tend to be severely deficient in original thinking, while being deviously clever in their dreamt of domination of all other peoples.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 18 2024 18:28 utc | 281

My revised hypothesis: The Mossad tampered with the pouch-sized battery to incorporate an explosive charge. Electronics were also hidden in the battery to be attentive to a specific sequence of current variations, those current variations (think Morse code) are impossible in normal use but were modulated when the pager received the triggering text message.
So it’s a cyber attack too: it was necessary to modify the firmware to generate the pulsed current sequence on the battery terminals. The malware injection would have been made by a US military aircraft designed specifically for electronic warfare, the EC-130H Compass Call. This plane (rarely observed) was detected off the coast of Lebanon the same day: it would have been able to carry out an OTA (over the air) firmware update of the pagers.

Posted by: proflutz | Sep 18 2024 18:29 utc | 282

Re changing or adding chips on a circuit board.
I know that chips in car and CNC computers are pre coded or programmed and that part can only be changed with a chip coder.
It would be a simple matter to change the coding on a chip with the correct chip coder, especially if that can be done still attached to the circuit board. I do not know if they require removing for changing the code but I think they are first coded before installation.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 18:29 utc | 283

These Icom V82 HTs blowing up real good are …
Posted by: NJH | Sep 18 2024 18:23 utc | 278

A V82 blowing up is operator error.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 18 2024 18:30 utc | 284

aristodemos – Re “hundreds”, I’m reading that a lot of the injuries (at least, yesterday) were eye and head injuries … not unlikely given people may have been looking at the number or code on the pager when it blew up. Those people, though they will recover in terms of living, will surely be out of action forever if made partially or totally blind.
There were also quite a number of “critical” injuries … those will lead to death or out of commission for many.
A heavy blow. No sense minimizing it, in my opinion. Learn the lesson and move on.
The main point continues: Israel cannot fight a drawn out long term war … as a modern western nation, it needs wars to end quickly or will collapse from public exhaustion after a while. So the main issue is to continue the battle until the war is won.

Posted by: Caliman | Sep 18 2024 18:31 utc | 285

technological sovereignty and its relationship to national security. Such devices produced domestically don’t need to be techie enough to compete on the global marketplace; rather, they need to function well enough to perform their tasks. If outsourcing is a must, then only buy from those nations you can trust like China and Russia.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 18 2024 18:28 utc | 280
Vary much so.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 18:32 utc | 286

False and uneducated sources and dangerous liars:
– Martjanov connected withn CIA Larry
Thank you B, for being honest

Posted by: stranger | Sep 18 2024 18:33 utc | 287

I just learned that my VPN is Israeli owned.
https://proprivacy.com/vpn/guides/who-owns-your-vpn

Posted by: librul | Sep 18 2024 18:36 utc | 288

From Tel Aviv:-
The head of the IDF’s Northern Command, Maj. Gen. Uri Gordin, said the IDF “is determined to change the security situation as soon as possible. The commanders and the forces are completely committed – at peak preparedness for any task they will be required to do.” Defense Minister Gallant said Israel is “entering a new phase in the war.”
Interesting and dangerous times.
Netanyahoo wants a war. A fierce war.
And to interfere with the US of A elections.
No even the US of A constitution [for what it worth] would be able to stop him from moving forward with his plans.
Dangerous times.

Posted by: AI | Sep 18 2024 18:36 utc | 289

And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Revelation 13:$

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 18 2024 18:36 utc | 290

❗️The UN General Assembly has passed a resolution calling on Israel to leave occupied Palestine.

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/29292

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 18:40 utc | 291

@260 ossi
Denial of service and decomposure are still main tools of bureaucracy and agencies across much of europe.

Posted by: Ornot | Sep 18 2024 18:41 utc | 292

Actually, someone who used to post here, named Richard has posted an amazing analysis about the bigger picture, the aims of the usa.
Fantastic, read it
https://richardstevenhack.substack.com/p/armageddon-in-the-middle-east-part-a9a

Posted by: stranger | Sep 18 2024 18:41 utc | 293

Spare me the enemy combatment arguement. Grunts are fair game but not the people who direct them? Hmm. Let me guess who made that rule. Nonetheless, this particular act was the very definition of terrorism intended to provoke fear and paranoia among an entire population.

Posted by: WG | Sep 18 2024 18:41 utc | 294

Arch Bungle@1805
Time to reassess. Lebanese and Syrians may very well speak Arabic…a given. However, they are NOT Arabs, having but a tiny injection of genuinely Arabic proportion amongst their gene pools. Both those nations are FAAAR more ancient than the Judaics…and of course, those Arabian conquerers with their newfound religious mission. Both lands are not strictly and purely Muslim, what with Christians, Druze and several other tribal cults and religions.
Thus the perspectives of the Lebanese and Syrians are quite cosmopolitan and are based upon long-developments of cultural insights and accretions. They are anything but short-sighted and also racially blended. Ever notice those blue eyes of Syria’s president? Ethnically, those lands are conglomerates, yet culturally integrated in many respects.
The Oded Plan of “Eretz Yisroel” are doomed to dissipation and destruction. The Izzies may be clever. Their ultimately unconquerable enemies happen to be far wiser.

Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 18 2024 18:42 utc | 295

@ Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 18:40 utc | 292
Wake me when the UN declares war on “Israel” — or at least expels it.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 18 2024 18:43 utc | 296

🇹🇼🇸🇦🇮🇱⚡️🇱🇧 Apparently, the owner of BAC is this lady who completed all her education in England and worked in UNESCO, Atomic Energy Organization, etc.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/30928
And she is a climate expert too

The BAC company website is now unavailable.

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/30931

Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 18 2024 18:45 utc | 297

I am pretty certain the Geneva Convention was modified to make disguised anti-personel mines a war crime (the Serbs built tiny “child toy like looking” devices that maimed. These pagers are the same kind of device and a further proof of Jewish war crimes.
Posted by: seenitbefore | Sep 18 2024 15:22 utc | 97

If you do not trust the MSM today with their nonsense, why do you believe nonsense from 30 years ago. Actually name a single instance or investigation by the various war crimes tribunales in the former Yugoslavia about a single instance or Serbs planting expliosive devices in childrens toys. Serbs consider their muslim and croat neighbours as kin who converted to a different religion. Mining toys is not in their modus operandi. Lying to MSM is something paid for influencers do, and there are numerous records of who paid to shape western MSM opinion.

Posted by: SmallStepForMan | Sep 18 2024 18:46 utc | 298

@ librul | Sep 18 2024 18:36 utc | 289
A not entirely useless article for that reason, although the notion that a VPN in any US-allied state (including Switzerland) can or would even want to protect privacy inspires only tired laughter.
Might be a good idea to look into those Chinese VPNs…

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 18 2024 18:46 utc | 299

librul | Sep 18 2024 18:36 utc | 289 “I just learned that my VPN is Israeli owned.”
And fools think they are smart when using a VPN. Good for by passing censorship or country blocks, but useless for privacy.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Sep 18 2024 18:48 utc | 300