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September 7, 2024
Caitlin Johnstone – Trump Vs. Cheney

Busy.

But please read Caitlin:

It’s The Trump Party Vs The Cheney Party
One of earth’s most evil living beings, Dick “Darth Vader” Cheney, has officially endorsed Kamala Harris for president.

I agree and see nothing that could be done about it.

Comments

*****Immaculate deception @85
Just when you think clown world can’t get any nuttier….At least we don’t have a horse in the senate,yet.
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Yes but there are plenty of horses’s asses in the Senate.
On the Mall in Washington DC the US Department of Agriculture Headquarters is located. There is a facade around the building that has the heads of farm animals in relief- cows, horses, goats, sheep etc. There is a saying around Washington that when you see the heads on the outside of that building you are certain what is on the inside of it.

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 7 2024 23:02 utc | 101

One of earth’s most evil living beings, Dick “Darth Vader” Cheney,
I know I am nit picking here but Paul Wolfowitz is the number one.
Posted by: hopehely | Sep 7 2024 17:33 utc | 23
You forgot Rumsfeld! As for who’s the “worst”, how many shades of black does one need?
The thing about Cheney, is that he was simply the highest profile face of the evil (VP) but just one of a whole clandestine cabal of identical backroom thinkers. Out of all of them, he was happy to be SEEN as the doer, as the one responsible. Truth be told, Grey Men POLICY is responsible … all the way back to Rand Institute strategies and docs.
And beware, all such doctrines and their executors are passed-on through the generations (vis Kissinger onwards). No doubt, there’s others presently being groomed as we speak. No doubt Liz Cheney is one.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 7 2024 23:04 utc | 102

Just when you think clown world can’t get any nuttier….At least we don’t have a horse in the senate,yet
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 7 2024 22:22 utc | 85
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I hear there’s a fine collection of “ladybugs”…

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 7 2024 23:12 utc | 103

I wonder how many votes will change from Cheney’s endorsement.
Posted by: migueljose | Sep 7 2024 18:17 utc | 39
It’s not all about “changing votes”. Third party endorsements, like stump speeches, are equally about getting disaffected voters to participate in voting through fear of “the bad guy getting in”. Swinging voters and non-voters can both be brought to bear upon an outcome.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 7 2024 23:14 utc | 104

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 7 2024 22:22 utc | 85
It’s worth noting that Caligula’s supposed attempt to appoint his horse to the consulship was probably based on the retort “my horse could probably do a better job than you lot—in fact let’s find out”. Rather than a sign of Gaius’ insanity it was perhaps an astute political stunt to demonstrate the de facto redundancy of the senate by c.40AD. In the hands of one’s enemies, however, it is easy to misrepresent: it is only a small leap to make the statement “I wish Israel would get a dose of its own medicine” to mean “I am a Nazi”… Thus, ‘look Gaius is mad, he wants to make his horse consul’.
Reminds me of the Life of Brian stoning scene: “All I said was ‘this bit of halibut is good enough for Jehovah'” BLASPHEMER!

Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 23:23 utc | 105

I especially liked this paragraph from the Caitlin Johnstone piece:

It is here worth noting that contrary to the narratives circulated in both mainstream Democrat-aligned media and mainstream Republican-aligned media, Donald Trump actually spent his entire term ramping up aggressions against Russia and helped pave the way to the war in Ukraine. He also promoted many longstanding warmongering agendas against official enemies of the US empire like Iran, Syria, and Venezuela. But even Trump’s insane hawkishness is insufficient for these freaks.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 7 2024 23:47 utc | 106

This looks interesting…
What are the spooks up to now ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2gz4re394o
Runs for nucular bunker in garden.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 23:48 utc | 107

Posted by: Michael A | Sep 7 2024 19:59 utc | 64
You are obviously ill-informed about what happened at the rally. There is one man dead, two were seriously injured, and Trump and one or two others lightly injured, and it’s all documented on video.
The bullet that hit Trump hit the hydraulic line of a lift crane behind him causing an oil spray (also on video). It is the smoking gun for being a false flag attack Cheney style because the bullet’s trajectory doesn’t add up with a shot from the roof. There was a second shooter, right in the building where the official shooter was on the roof. And all of this is easily provable if some Congressman have the balls to challenge the Deep State.

Posted by: mk | Sep 7 2024 23:51 utc | 108

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 7 2024 17:11 utc | 17
Bush v Gore 2000
Years later the Florida votes were recounted and it was found that Gore in fact had more votes than Bush, which meant Gore was was the actual winner of that election.

Posted by: Andy | Sep 7 2024 23:52 utc | 109

“Years later the Florida votes were recounted and it was found that Gore in fact had more votes than Bush, which meant Gore was was the actual winner of that election.”
Posted by: Andy | Sep 7 2024 23:52 utc | 109
Oh yes, Gore would have been a big old-left peace-president, just like Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright. /s

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 0:00 utc | 110

Wisco @ 106

But even Trump’s insane hawkishness is insufficient for these freaks.

Maybe the Rumsfeld, Cheney, HRC, Obama, Biden crowd questioned Trump’s warmongering sincerity, the true extent of his blood lust, you, know whether his heart was really in it. That’s sort of a joke, I wouldn’t vote for Trump for assistant dog catcher, I like dogs too much, and I think he sees American citizens as suckers in his casino, but I don’t think he’s totally encompassed in the banality of evil like the neocon crowd. Trump has many negatives but he’s not technocratic, for whatever that’s worth.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 8 2024 0:08 utc | 111

An excellent documentary on how the US bombing and destabilization of Cambodia lead to the victory of the Khmer Rouge and the “Killing Fields”. Before the destabilization, the Khmer Rouge were slowly being strangled and could have just ended as a footnote in history.
How The USA Brought Pol Pot To Power
This is Cheney’s lineage, he got six draft deferments to stay out of serving in Vietnam and started his political career within the Nixon Whitehouse. A classic Chick Hawk warmonger. His support of Harris tells us that Harris and the Democrats are now no better than those that destroyed South East Asia and many other nations with no real consideration or sense of shame. In this respect, Trump is a better option than Harris as he does seem to have at least some level of actual aversion to such wars (his Zionism is pure calculation). That’s not saying a lot ….

Posted by: Roger | Sep 8 2024 0:08 utc | 112

Fred @ 113
I hear that.

Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 8 2024 0:17 utc | 113

Anybody supporting this party is an absolute reactionary. They would have supported Hitler in his day.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:22 utc | 84
Right on. If Hitler had draped himself in [insert identity politics group/entity/actor] banners amd colours, the vermin would back him up. Steven King’s defense of Stepan Bandera is a perfect example of this.
One can see that here in MoA through the slimy manner various neoliberal scum champion the cause of the Dems or the UK Labour (posters “steven johnson”, “fnord”, “Marks2” etc.), ever promoting their supposed leftist credentials, while pushing every trope of the neoliberal right ultra-prog variety (that is to say, not progressive at all but full regressive reactionary).

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 8 2024 0:19 utc | 114

To be fair, there’s probably a few gerbils in Congress.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 8 2024 0:24 utc | 115

Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 22:39 utc | 94
I somewhat disagree with your position. The vitality of the Roman empire was very much evident and was reflected in tis resilience as well. It’s rather odd that you emphasize the state of affairs in the Western Roman empire whose fate was entirely different from that of the Eastern Roman entity, the so-called Byzantine empire.
Just for the record I read a long time ago the works of the authors you mentioned, favoring Wickham over Brown. In my opinion, the fate of the west Roman state is a good example of the corrosive effect of class truggle successfully waged by elites vs the central government. The Life of St. Melania is a ggod indication of the power the magnates had ammassed vs the state in the face of rising perils.
The full contrast is to be seen in the East Roman state that faced greater threats and yet survived that fact of Volkswanderung fairly intact. It was a comination of factors, very often unforeseen and impossible to deal with, that severely weakened it and led to the somewhat transformed Mid Byz empire from the mid. 7th cent. onwards.
This may be a bit off topic. but the decadent attitudes of the late Roman elites are somewhat reflected in the mentality of their modern Anglo-American equivalents.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 8 2024 0:30 utc | 116

To be fair, there’s probably a few gerbils in Congress.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 8 2024 0:24 utc | 117
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Yes but, being gerbils, they have to use the rear entrance.

Posted by: malenkov | Sep 8 2024 0:36 utc | 117

Posted by: Roger | Sep 8 2024 0:08 utc | 112
To be fair, the main horrors of the Khmer Rouge came after 1975. Up to this point, after the coup against Sihanouk, they appeared as the patriotic national liberation movement against the US stooge Lon Nol. That’s how they won the necessary popularity to prevail.
What’s even better is the hideous policy of the US/UK combo (Anglo-American empire all right) after the Vietnamese and their Cambodian allies liberated the country from Pol Pot. The support of the anti-communist west for this bunch of degenerate murderers is a perverse marvel to behold. After all, better the Khmer Rouge and Pol Pot than a pro-Soviet Cambodia.

Posted by: Constantine | Sep 8 2024 0:37 utc | 118

“Excuss my English, but can somebody pls. explain something for me?
Neo i believe means New Economic Order- but what does the word Con means?
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 7 2024 21:28 utc | 73”
Neocons are an old boys network of warlike Americans who used to be Lefties, but now are Righties. They have quite a lot of political clout in both parties.

Posted by: lester | Sep 8 2024 0:50 utc | 119

“Within eight months of assuming office, Trump–with the announcement of six “precision airstrikes” in Libya–had bombed every country that former President Barack Obama had in eight years. One month after that, the United States surpassed the 26,172 bombs that had been dropped in 2016. Through the end of December 2017, Trump had authorized more airstrikes in Somalia in one year (33), than George W. Bush and Obama had since the United States first began intervening there in early 2007 (30).”…12/29/2017, “How Donald Trump Learned to Love War in 2017,” Micah Zenko

Posted by: susan mullen | Sep 8 2024 0:52 utc | 120

Former U.S. ambassador to Israel under the Trump administration, David Friedman, is promoting his new book, ‘One Jewish State,’ where he details his plans for the annexation of the West Bank, which he intends to present to Trump if he wins the 2024 election.
He claims this policy reflects ‘Judeo-Christian values of kindness, human dignity, humility, and prosperity.’
Hold the barf bag for the ziobandercons latest upheave,

Posted by: Hankster | Sep 8 2024 0:58 utc | 121

It is interesting that this new version of the Republican party has been shifting the last 15 years or so away from the NEOCONS. No one seemed to mention how the Bush Cheney NEOCON followers have been absent from the last two conventions.
Their backup boy McCain is dead and gone. When he was running for Senate in 2016 he was losing. He had to kiss Trumps ass to win. Trump shifted his support from his challenger to McCain. It took enormous pressure on Trump to get that done. That little gay poodle Lindsey Graham is no McCain.
The Democrats did quite the opposite. More unified, never changing, celebrating its past murderers, rally around the war and the Trump boogey man. It was all quite pathetic. The only thing they have to unify their party is hate Trump with some abortion on the side.
All that being said, the Zionists are the big dog in the room. The NEOCONS are fading into the background unless the Democrats get back in or they blow Trumps head off on a livestream.
We were supposed to under the Bush helm righ now. They shit on the country and left us no toilet paper. What is one to do?

Posted by: circumspect | Sep 8 2024 0:58 utc | 122

Thanks to susan mullen above with the Trump reality.
A perspective that just came to me about the Cheney endorsement is that it shows just how far right the Blue party has moved since Cheney was in office/charge.
Now if they would just all go off the cliff together and leave us public alone.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 0:59 utc | 123

Years later the Florida votes were recounted and it was found that Gore in fact had more votes than Bush, which meant Gore was was the actual winner of that election.
Posted by: Andy | Sep 7 2024 23:52 utc | 109
You are not wrong, but the selection of Bush-Cheney 2000 was what we were discussing, which I was comparing the others to.
I don’t know that Gore would have been any better, maybe a little less euphoric than Cheney with power in his hands at last.
That was the beginning of the current lawless USSC too.

Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 8 2024 1:13 utc | 124

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:13 utc | 82
whereas the civil wars in Rome resulted in a vitality and power that lasted hundreds of years.
This is simply not true. The idea that the Roman Empire settled down into a lasting, homogenous and static entity is rubbish and grievous oversimplification. The very consequences of empire which destroyed civic culture in the Mediterranean were doubled down. By 150AD the sources of surplus labour were exhuasted and the region pivoted slowly from a regime of taxation and state centralisation to rent and balkanisation. The histories you’re reading (Romulus Augustulus? So 1950s…) need to be reassessed. Valentinian III’s edict of April 444 marks the state’s admission that it cannot afford to pay its army from taxation.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 22:39 utc | 94
Perfect analysis dear sir but do pay attention to Constantine | Sep 8 2024 0:30 utc | 118
“The full contrast is to be seen in the East Roman state that faced greater threats and yet survived that fact of Volkswanderung fairly intact. It was a comination of factors, very often unforeseen and impossible to deal with, that severely weakened it and led to the somewhat transformed Mid Byz empire from the mid. 7th cent. onwards.
This may be a bit off topic. but the decadent attitudes of the late Roman elites are somewhat reflected in the mentality of their modern Anglo-American equivalents.”
EUROPE IS ROME, US is Byzantium, Biden is a weak Arcadius (ruled by his wife) but what is about to hell is Rome/Europe.
A small caveat for he fact that this is a major harmonic (4 long cycles) and a nuclear/biological outcome is not excluded. (and in that case the level of loss could be 4.400 BC or even 10.860 BC level disaster.
Otherwise the US might still get to recover, temporarily, Europe and have a true apex in 400 years (and still last a thousand).
When I hear about US colapse, I am often tempted to remind that they barely have 200 years as a nation and even going back to earliest dutch-british phase, 400 from the barest inception, it’s too early for true decay (though not for mid cycle crisis). Western empire, as a west european construct, might end soon (less than 80 years) but unless nukes fly, I’d say the US should hold for a long time.
If you have studied for decades civilizations (not countries or even empires) you might have noticed that rebirths take, roughly, 400 years, vital apex another 400 (with a mid cycle crisis just there), imperium (another 400) and another 400 of decay before collapse.
Use the “roughly 400” as >=405 (might be 410 but less likely?) and do your math, take the collapse of the bronze age, take rome, take what is about to happen. On the non western cycle, take the laments for Ur (and other fertile crescent cities), take Alexander, take the mongols (roughly 810 years , half cycle, shifted).
Care to give an opinion?
Thank you.

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 8 2024 1:14 utc | 125

Someone posted this link=> https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/the-militarisation-of-scandinavia I cannot remember who, sorry, anyway I extracted a critical statement from it:
“The ascension of Finland and the upcoming ascension of Sweden will totally change the setup in the Baltic Sea region. Russia will experience Kaliningrad being surrounded”.[4]”
<= I had before seeing this link arrived at a similar conclusion; in that Russia may find it necessary to try to invade Latvia and Lithuania in order to establish a path North of the Northern border of Belarus..straight into the Kaliningrad Oblast for access to the black Sea so Russia can sell its oil and gas and other products to Germany and Western Europe. The link helped me to see why, the Ukraine war was necessary, it removed the Soviet era hodge podge of non standard military equipment from every nations inventory so fully standardized equipment and training could be instituted. The Bulkanization of Russia, the privatization of the state assets of Russia, and the standardization of military equipment and commitment from many NATO nations seem to be prerequisites to a war with China? Russian gas makes China nearly unbeatable. Posted by: Dr Smith | Sep 7 2024 16:40 utc | 10 None the less, to Katlin’s point, does not really matter if Trump or Harris win, <= If Trump makes peace with Russia, as promised, all of the work done by the western oil and gas industry (which Cheney and Bush have massive clout with) to prevent Russian oil and gas from be offered in European Oil and Gas markets will have been for nothing? Germany will be able, once again, to buy cheap Russian Gas. German and European industries will once again flourish and the Western oil and gas industry investments and products made by the Cheney-Bush type of investors will not be able to sell their expensive western oil and gas products to Western Europe, and China cannot be denied Russian oil and gas. Until the start of the SMO, Russia was the major provider of gas and oil to Europe. Removing the Palestinians from Gaza seems also to be a part of that separate Russia from its traditional markets (i.e. Russian oil and gas products shall not be allowed to reach Western European Oil and Gas markets<=competition from Russia is denied). Today, Europe is not allowed to buy cheap pipeline-delivered Gas and oil from Russia because Russian pipelines have been blown up, because sanctions prevent European countries from dealing with Russia, and because all of the military strength of NATO has been aimed at Russia. Very interesting..no wonder the oil and gas industry is leaving the Republican party. Trump's success could spoil a lot. Making peace with Russia disrupts plans to deny availability of Russian oil and gas any where or any place in Europe until Russia has been bulkanized and its assets privatized into western owned corporations. Should Trump make peace; Europe and Russia relations may flourish leaving western oil and gas providers with no market in Europe and the foreign investors in Ukraine holding the go broke bag. It looks almost like the top politicians in Europe are forcing the nations they lead to join NATO (often against bottom-up popular will) and are refusing to step down when they lose elections? Profiting from Western oil and gas and gaining access to shares in the spoils to be had from Russian loot hunts when Russia falls require the politician to keep his or her house order? Posted by: mk | Sep 7 2024 17:41 utc | 25 The Trump assassination attempt bears all the hallmarks of Dick Cheney, the master of 911. It is clearly MIHOP, not LIHOP, and the theory of the lone shooter from the roof is for long refuted. <=fascinating observation .. thanks.

Posted by: snake | Sep 8 2024 1:16 utc | 126

psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 0:59 utc | 125–
Yeah, reality’s a bitch. Here’s what Medvedev wrote at his telegram today about Trump and Harris:

Donald Trump is offended by the current administration and threatens to lift sanctions against Russia. Will he remove it if elected?
Of course not. For all his seeming “non-systemic” nature, Trump is ultimately a systemic character. Yes, he is an extravagant narcissistic type, but at the same time he is a pragmatist. Trump, as a businessman, understands that sanctions are hurting the dollar’s dominance in the world. However, not enough to stage a revolution in the United States and go against the anti-Russian line of the notorious deep state, which is much stronger than any Trump.
And what about Harris? Moreover, you should not expect any surprises from her. She is inexperienced and, according to her enemies, simply stupid. She will be prepared beautiful meaningless speeches and boring correct answers to questions, which she, laughing contagiously, will read from a teleprompter.
There were sanctions against the USSR throughout the XX century. They returned to the twenty-first on an unprecedented scale. Therefore, sanctions forever for all of us. Or rather, until the collapse of the United States in the course of an imminent new civil war. After all, it is not for nothing that Hollywood makes films about her😂. [Emoticon Original]

The current Outlaw US Empire policy is in shambles and will continue to dig the hole deeper, which will be easier for the Global Majority to predict. And it’s possible the election manipulation will spark more unrest than 2020 regardless who wins, unless it’s Stein. IMO, it’s that latter factor that needs watching. School just started and how many shootings have happened already?

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 8 2024 1:24 utc | 127

Chenny is asset of English spy agencies . England is actively interfering in American election.
English vpirates use American power to make wars on the world which trump refuses so trump is big villain for the English parasites

Posted by: Sam | Sep 8 2024 1:44 utc | 128

Trump represents the NSDAP while Kamala, Cheney, et al represent the SDP.
We need the American analog to the KPD to win this time but they don’t exist, they were strangled in the crib by the most perfectly anticommunist regime in world history.

Posted by: John D | Sep 8 2024 1:49 utc | 129

When a member of Congress or Parliament speaks on most issues concerning things like Tax policy, economic policies, foreign affairs (including war and peace), they are not speaking for themselves, they are expressing the interest of their largest campaign doners. I have pointed out many times that “Liberal Democracy” is a fairy tale that only fools belive in.
The unelected millionaires and billionaires (the ruling class) would never entrust the “voters” to direct policies that directly affect them and their wealth. The US military and National Security spooks have been destroying real popular democracies around the world for over a hundred years now, so why would they tolerate a real democracy in the US, or the UK, or anywhere that the international ruling class (IRC) has an interest?
Still, it is fair to say that the IRC is NOT ideologically harmonious (no class in the history of humanity could boast of such a thing), history has shown that Power elite often go to war with each other. Liberal democracy provides them with the cover to disagree with each other on many issues, via a limited number of parties or political groupings inside parties i.e. the Democrats verses the Republicans, Labour and Tories. It has always been a strategy for Communist and Socialist Parties operating inside overwhelming pro-capitalist countries try (often without success) to play off one sector of the ruling class against another based on inter class divisions; for the benefit of the working class: In other words, reforms.
When in the case of the war’s most evil, the IRC has largely been united since WW2. Even more so since the Bush and Chaney administration war on Iraq and Afghanistan. They remain even more united around Biden’s proxy war policies on Russia and China, and that is because the IRC have a program: The Project for the New American Century, (PNAC). Trusted western political “elected” leaders are expected to do their part, using their countries prospective wealth and resources, to ensure that PNAC succeeds in a timely manner, but time is running out and desperation is creeping in because Putin just will not cooperate.

Posted by: Ed | Sep 8 2024 2:01 utc | 130

“the theory of the lone shooter from the roof is for long refuted.”
Bullshit it’s been refuted. Only for the gullible clowns with the attention span of a gnat.
“Chenny is asset of English spy agencies ”
This bullshit never stops either. Unless Sam was intentionally taking the piss

Posted by: Fred | Sep 8 2024 2:06 utc | 131

“Neocons are an old boys network of warlike Americans who used to be Lefties, but now are Righties. They have quite a lot of political clout in both parties.”
Posted by: lester | Sep 8 2024 0:50 utc | 121
“Neocons” are just ex-Trotskyists. They are internationalists. They don’t care about the little stuff like abortion or trannies or racial stuff, they care mostly about control of the world via financial dominance.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 2:06 utc | 132

@109 Andy
You got that one exactly backwards.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/media-jan-june01-recount_04-03

Posted by: ockham | Sep 8 2024 2:10 utc | 133

Just have to state my opinion. The Trump “assasination attempt” was fake as fuck and very obviously so. If any deep state agencies really wanted him dead, he would be as dead as JFK now.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 2:14 utc | 134

JFK/LBJ 1960 and Reagan/GHW Bush 1980 come to mind. (I’m not saying there are not others either.)
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 7 2024 17:11 utc | 17
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I think the Cheney case is qualitatively different from the common scenario that a VP runs for president or possibly runs things behind the scenes (I don’t know to what extent Bush I did this; I thought it was Nancy running things for Reagan).
Cheney was supposed to help Bush II vet candidates to become his running mate.
Instead he found himself to be the best running mate!
And then proceeded to, it seems, become the de facto president as well.
Pretty impressive chutzpah for a Wyoming boy.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 8 2024 2:14 utc | 135

“Excuss my English, but can somebody pls. explain something for me?
Neo i believe means New Economic Order- but what does the word Con means?
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 7 2024 21:28 utc | 73”
Neo mean – new / revised
Con stands for Conservatives.
A new big picture version of a Militarized Reagan Conservatism. All manipulative world play.
Neocons are ALL extremist Pro-Israeli Zionists – most were Jewish zionists, others were christian zionists, all were extremist Pro-israel pro-empire anti-muslim corporate mega US empire power expansionism war mongers autocrats and totalitarian ‘Fascist Nazis’.
They still are but the PNAC was shut down and they morphed out into other ‘think tanks’ and other ‘neocon’ leaning back room institutions and govt jobs — they also expanded into the self-serving war mongering Clintonite-Obama Big oil Democrat party big time post 2008.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 8 2024 2:19 utc | 136

OMG if even a monster like cheney cant stand trump, trump MUST be really really bad.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 17:27 utc | 21
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Au contraire!
If Cheney detests Trump, Trump can’t be all bad!
Actually, though, the whole “Trump will destroy democracy” boilerplate is so ludicrous in the context of the Democratic Party’s version of democracy, you know Cheney doesn’t believe this and has other reasons. We know that Cheney is a big MIC guy.
So he thinks the MIC will do better under The Cackling One.
I have, frankly, more respect for those traveling in the opposite direction, as I have come to the conclusion that Trump is a lesser evil than the Cackling team.

Posted by: Jane | Sep 8 2024 2:21 utc | 137

I went looking for the MSM contextualization of the Cheney announcement and this USA Today posting title caught my eye
The Democratic tent now spans from AOC to Dick Cheney
LOL!
The God Of Mammon cult tent now spans from AOC to Dick Cheney and beyond on both ends….as in the emperor has no clothes

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 2:24 utc | 138

“If Cheney detests Trump, Trump can’t be all bad!”
Posted by: Jane | Sep 8 2024 2:21 utc | 139
That right there is the entire Trump-is-saviour psychology. “If the liberal media and the RINOS hate him, I am for him”. The manipulation of votes is easy to see when you are aware of the methods.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 2:28 utc | 139

When will Dick Cheney suddenly turn around and shoot Kamala in the face?
Posted by: Cyril | Sep 7 2024 19:03 utc | 51
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And she’ll just laugh it off!
Thanks for the laff!

Posted by: Jane | Sep 8 2024 2:29 utc | 140

There are many people here who promote Jill Stein because of her long-standing anti-war stances. I am tempted to vote for her again because of it. But there are a lot of people in the pro-Russia blog community who could never vote for Jill Stein because she acknowledges the reality of anthropogenic climate change.
See here:
https://www.jillstein2024.com/planet

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 2:41 utc | 141

I keep speculating because I did serious study of “the future” 50+ years ago and it is in my blood now.
I have speculated here before that both Ukraine and Occupied Palestine will climax before November; and I expect one will force capitulation of the other proxy war.
Then, what will be the portrayal of that reality on the Wester/American public?
My dream is that the American public will reject the status quo for president/leadership and elect Jill Stein.
The question to me is along with that if the American public can make it clear that Jill is not to be assassinated and finance is to become a public utility.
I am a dreamer but not the only one…

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 2:51 utc | 142

For decades, citizens of the world’s greatest power have only had shitty presidential options. I would feel very helpless under these conditions.

Posted by: Carlos | Sep 8 2024 3:14 utc | 143

I think the really vociferous climate-change-deniers, and the more vicious anti-semites, and the people who say viruses don’t exist are here to make the website look like it populated by kooks. If you can, look up the concept of “cognitive infiltration”. It is a concept that I think is in play here.
https://books.google.com/books/about/Cognitive_Infiltration.html?id=upTtwAEACAAJ&source=kp_book_description

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 3:17 utc | 144

“Former Chicago and Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, who in 2009 was appointed by President Barack Obama to direct an important executive branch office, had in 2008 co-authored an article containing a plan for the government to prevent the spread of anti-government ‘conspiracy theories,’ in which he advocated the use of anonymous government agents to engage in ‘cognitive infiltration’ of these groups in order to break them up. In his new book, Griffin focuses on the fact that Sunstein’s primary target is the conspiracy theory advocated by the 9/11 Truth Movement. Examining Sunstein’s charge that this theory is both ‘harmful’ and ‘demonstrably false,’ Griffin uses both satire and overwhelming evidence to show that this twofold charge applies instead to what Sunstein calls ‘the true conspiracy theory’ about 9/11–namely, the ‘theory that al-Qaeda was responsible for 9/11.'”

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 3:20 utc | 145

“I think the Cheney case is qualitatively different from the common scenario that a VP runs for president or possibly runs things behind the scenes (I don’t know to what extent Bush I did this; I thought it was Nancy running things for Reagan).”
those were valid examples, but different as you pointed out.
GHWB was in power from the moment his family friend’s son squeezed off some shots at Reagan. The Reagan’s disliked GHWB for many good reasons before fear was instilled, and his positioning as VP after some assistance on the field from fellow JFK alumni Gerald Ford was quite something. Cheney was given a simpler job of selecting himself and running the 9-11-01 exercises.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 8 2024 3:27 utc | 146

Meanwhile, of course, GHWB continued shot calling through the 8 stolen years of GW’s rollicking reign. Never a word was spake of this. He owned the shadows.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 8 2024 3:30 utc | 147

I keep speculating because I did serious study of “the future” 50+ years ago and it is in my blood now.
I have speculated here before that both Ukraine and Occupied Palestine will climax before November; and I expect one will force capitulation of the other proxy war.
Then, what will be the portrayal of that reality on the Wester/American public?
My dream is that the American public will reject the status quo for president/leadership and elect Jill Stein.
The question to me is along with that if the American public can make it clear that Jill is not to be assassinated and finance is to become a public utility.
I am a dreamer but not the only one…
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 2:51 utc | 144
Start of november is also one of the tangential analysis dates I have for ukraine collapse/capitulation (the other being late february 2025, and it would be ironic, a surrender 3 years after the start of the SMO) , so I’d give a 50/50 on that one
As for palestine I wouldn’t put money on a climax for the next decade or two) not a moral position, just a straightforward assessment.
As for a Jill Stein win I wouldn’t bet a cent against all the gold in russia. Sorry

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 8 2024 3:31 utc | 148

“Former Chicago and Harvard law professor Cass Sunstein, who in 2009 was appointed by President Barack Obama to direct an important executive branch office, had in 2008 co-authored an article containing a plan for the government to prevent the spread of anti-government ‘conspiracy theories,’ in which he advocated the use of anonymous government agents to engage in ‘cognitive infiltration’ of these groups in order to break them up. In his new book, Griffin focuses on the fact that Sunstein’s primary target is the conspiracy theory advocated by the 9/11 Truth Movement. Examining Sunstein’s charge that this theory is both ‘harmful’ and ‘demonstrably false,’ Griffin uses both satire and overwhelming evidence to show that this twofold charge applies instead to what Sunstein calls ‘the true conspiracy theory’ about 9/11–namely, the ‘theory that al-Qaeda was responsible for 9/11.'”
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 3:20 utc | 147
As Pete seems to be MIA I’m going to say you sound an awful lot like the guy in the elevator who asks “who farted?”

Posted by: Newbie | Sep 8 2024 3:34 utc | 149

Of course she won’t “win” but getting 3-5% of the vote can swing the election.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 3:36 utc | 150

“As Pete seems to be MIA I’m going to say you sound an awful lot like the guy in the elevator who asks “who farted?”
Posted by: Newbie | Sep 8 2024 3:34 utc | 151
You never post anything of value. Your whole schtick seems to involve bragging about yourself and your worthless predictions. Pete is good, you are boring.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 3:44 utc | 151

@ psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 2:51 utc | 144
what i think is zelensky is going to get taken out, and it will be in the week leading up to the usa election..

Posted by: james | Sep 8 2024 3:46 utc | 152

*** i think the really vociferous climate-change-deniers, and the more vicious anti-semites, and the people who say viruses don’t exist are here to make the website look like it populated by kooks.
Posted by: Wisco @ 146
***********
Ahh! Wisco the arbiter of normalcy on MOA.
THE anthropogenic carbon based theory of climate change is subnormal science. Climate change is based on solar and geophysical cycles that are related to the astrophysics of the solar system ss it affects strength and location of the center of gravity of the solar syste; which affects solar radiation and geophysical process on earth. We’ve wasted trillion of dollars on a fool errand and lobotomized several generations of student against open scientific debate and analysis.
Is antisemitism an oxymoron or a nonsequitur – since the definition of it does not in clude 95% of the Semitic peoples of the world, and is used against the majority of the Semitic peoples but a small religious Semitic cult?
Virus some deny it, but most of the discussion here is about the covid vaccine and vaccination in general. The mrna was not a vaccine but genetic immunological approach that provided an incomplete and ineffective immunological response and significant adverse reactions.
Friend, consider that your belief system and not the arguments here, are the basis of your objections and not the science that is argued.

Posted by: Jerr | Sep 8 2024 3:53 utc | 154

@ james | Sep 8 2024 3:46 utc | 154 with the prediction of Z getting taken out just pre US (s)election..thanks…wow!
You being one of those astronomy types with some experience I will bow to you stepping up…mine come out of my ass.
I can’t see Occupied Palestine continuing like many others seem will happen….does your work say anything about what might happen there?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 3:54 utc | 155

Astrology not astronomy….sigh….late night and not the correct mix of drugs, I guess

Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 4:01 utc | 156

Sometimes I think james and malenkov are the most sane posters on this forum. Besides milites and the others who always post just facts and refrain from the drama.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 4:10 utc | 157

“Ahh! Wisco the arbiter of normalcy on MOA.”
Someone has to call out the worst of the bs.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 4:15 utc | 158

@ psychohistorian | Sep 8 2024 3:54 utc | 157
thanks.. early november marks a very dangerous time for zelensky… no guarantees, but he has to be careful in this window of time…

Posted by: james | Sep 8 2024 4:19 utc | 159

@ Wisco | Sep 8 2024 4:10 utc | 159
thanks wisco! i try not to get caught up in the drama, but i will admit it is difficult.. thanks for your posts..

Posted by: james | Sep 8 2024 4:20 utc | 160

Not a good article at all. 1)There is no Cheney party. Insofar as the Republican Party is an organized party with a program, there is only the Trump party. 2)Caitlin Johnstone is not a certified telepath and she doesn’t know Cheney’s fear is Trump’s peace mongering but his open political program of ignoring election results. The Duopoly has provided excellent results for the ruling class for decade after decade and ditching it may open the way to mass revulsion against the owners of the country. Or to put it another way, Cheney may be another dude who thinks Trump is a Chaos Agent of Accelerationism, except he’s a right-winger who doesn’t want the revolution accelerated.
Only fake leftists think standing up for Trump’s insane proposals is fighting the system. The secret fascists support Trump for obvious reasons.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Sep 8 2024 4:20 utc | 161

This has been (is) one of the funniest threads for a while B! Everyone’s inspired!

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Sep 8 2024 4:34 utc | 162

Posted by: james | Sep 8 2024 4:20 utc | 162
I sometimes lose my shit getting caught up in the drama. Yes, I get effected by the personal abuse. I will say that I am not qualified to make pronouncements about the technical details of the SMO.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 4:40 utc | 163

Maybe Putin doesn’t want the SMO to end prematurely without Russia having achieved its goals, especially since the West has demonstrated extreme hostility; therefore pressure from Trump to negotiate peace may be undesirable.

Posted by: norecovery | Sep 8 2024 4:44 utc | 164

“This has been (is) one of the funniest threads for a while B! Everyone’s inspired!”
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Sep 8 2024 4:34 utc | 164
Lol you are right. There are loads of people here weighing in who are from Australia and Canada and Europe. People like Patrolkos who I saw not long ago bitching hard about MoA talking too much about American elections.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 4:48 utc | 165

I welcome all the foreigners who want to discuss US elections. But must call out the bitches who complain about too much focus on US elections it whilst talking about it non-stop.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 5:02 utc | 166

Re: De-dollarization in the Next Administration ?
Interesting to consider the responses to de-dollarization with a Trump versus a Kamela presidency:
On one hand, Kamela’s administration would likely try a mix of whopping tax increases and budget shenanigans to keep the federal gravy train rolling.
On the other hand, Trump has lots of experience in “re-structuring” unplayable debt. He also learned delaying a “restructuring’ only makes the problem worse. Hmmmmm
De-dollarization brings peace

Posted by: Exile | Sep 8 2024 5:04 utc | 167

I posted a long comment that was allegedly published at 4:56. Comments with times up to 5:04 have now appeared. What now? I have a copy.

Posted by: sarz | Sep 8 2024 5:13 utc | 168

Anyone else here notice that the most adamantly “Marxist” posters tend to be bourgeois professors or are otherwise bourgeois and never really are “working class” themselves?

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 5:24 utc | 169

American “democracy” is essentially a political turf war between rival gangster factions of the American Fourth Reich.
It’s like the Al Capone gang vs Bugs Moran gang in the Chicago underworld during Prohibition.
Or, to use a more modern comparison: the Crips vs. the Bloods.
You thus have the Blue State Crips (the Democrats) vs. the Red State Bloods (the Republicans).
America’s self-styled democracy is about choosing which gangster faction of the American Empire you support.
Are you a Blue State Crip or a Red State Blood?
Team Crips or Team Bloods.
Either way, you support a gangbanger.

Posted by: ak74 | Sep 8 2024 5:24 utc | 170

Posted by: sarz | Sep 8 2024 5:13 utc | 170
=====
I posted the comment, referred to above, again. It was supposedly published at 05:20.
Again, it has failed to appear. I flatter myself that b’s superintending bot has found it too hot to handle. I’m taking the liberty of posting it as a comment to the latest xymphora.blogspot.com.

Posted by: sarz | Sep 8 2024 5:28 utc | 171

Nota bene that in 2024 onwards the Rubicon is the Styx.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 8 2024 5:35 utc | 172

The elections keep getting more strange every cycle. The fact that anyone would ever consider Harris as presidential material is mind blowing. It’s like I did too much acid and woke up in another dimension. “Things are getting weird, and they’re getting weird fast”, Elon Musk.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 8 2024 5:35 utc | 173

It’s mind-blowing to paleocons like me that Trump is considered to be “conservative”.

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 5:42 utc | 174

Posted by: sarz | Sep 8 2024 5:28 utc | 173
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The post that MoA’s superintending Deep State bot has disallowed twice while pretending to publish can be seen as a comment at the bottom of the following Xymphora blogspot page:
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2024/09/late-early-warning.html?m=1

Posted by: sarz | Sep 8 2024 5:47 utc | 175

Uni party clan don’t want Political Amateur (Trump) to interfere their (evil long running) plans.

Posted by: Nokaz | Sep 8 2024 5:52 utc | 176

For decades, citizens of the world’s greatest power have only had shitty presidential options.
Posted by: Carlos | Sep 8 2024 3:14 utc | 145

Things will change when these citizens are deprived of their trinkets and treats. Unfortunately, they have been trained to blame themselves for their approaching misfortune rather than their masters.
Redemption is impossible without Class awareness.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2024 6:08 utc | 177

“Things will change when these citizens are deprived of their trinkets and treats. Unfortunately, they have been trained to blame themselves for their approaching misfortune ”
what sort of tricks and trinkets?
housing?
life expectancy?
clean water?
cancer cured by an election promise?
Global Warming will bring stiffer rewards than these when the shit hits the fan at some crucial point in our food chain. Might be able to survive getting by on pollyanna honey synthesized by laughable deniers working for petroleum interests.
these arent self inflicted issues, not intentionally at least.
not one is on the ballot anyway.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 8 2024 6:30 utc | 178

psychohistorian | Sep 7 2024 21:07 utc | 70
Cheney as HeelsUp Harris VP. What a missed opportunity.
Presidents can only serve 2 terms… is it the same VPs?
I could “search engine of choice”, but @barfles are a faster, more satisfying, point of inquiry.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 8 2024 6:31 utc | 179

what sort of tricks and trinkets?
Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 8 2024 6:30 utc | 180

Instant gratification is the glue that holds the West together.

Posted by: too scents | Sep 8 2024 6:33 utc | 180

Neo : new
Con : conservative
Except they are not new nor conservative
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 7 2024 21:37 utc | 77
I’m anticipating the day when Neo con means ‘new convicted’.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 8 2024 6:34 utc | 181

RFK Jr endorsed Trump as the lesser of two evils.
Dick Cheney endorsed Harris as the greater of two evils.
Posted by: Sentient | Sep 7 2024 21:39 utc | 78
Well stated, sir

Posted by: Melaleuca | Sep 8 2024 6:34 utc | 182

Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:13 utc | 82
“The American civil war to me is more akin to the Roman civil war as it gave way to US Imperialism just decades after Lincoln was murdered.”
I dont have an opinion about the comparison with Rome since I dont have a clear impression about the roman case, but the essential aspect of the US so called ‘Civil War’ was that it, like most large groups fighting each other, was manipulated by foreign interests.
And those foreign interests happened to also fund and organise the french and russian revolutions.
The Larouche circle has exposed this historical pattern. The majority of ‘learned’ people however usually dont get it.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 8 2024 6:34 utc | 183

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 5:24 utc | 171
Ha. It’s the same for any sector of the political spectrum — there’s ideologue [somethings] and real [somethings].
I remember once here (metaphorically) spitting on a theoretical, professorial “anarchist” (it was RSH) who clearly lived a comfy, middle class materialist, law-abiding suburban existence, as opposed to an honest anarchist who actually walks their talk and lives outside the system in, say, an alternative community, or as a bush hermit (as I do) where no-laws (as far as feasible) is a way of life.
And there’s a certain red-bearded character here who just loves to extemporise his firey ideas of teenage rebellion to “bring down the system” and “bring about revolution” but who probably couldn’t live without all his mod cons and alcohol for the days/weeks/months manning the barricades the revolution might take. Just an angry bag of graduate commie air with no courage of his convictions. Lol.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 8 2024 6:45 utc | 184

one day someone asked berlusconi what he thought of the anecdote about caligula who wanted his horse elected as senator,
Berlusconi’s response: Caligula was an amateur, hey, Berlusconi, I got 100 donkeys elected to the Senate.

Posted by: A.cagliostro | Sep 8 2024 7:07 utc | 185

Perfect analysis dear sir but do pay attention to Constantine | Sep 8 2024 0:30 utc | 118
@ Newbie
The fact that the post was from ‘Constantine’ is telling. It’s hardly vital and stable if it is Christian and abandons Latin. In other words, the Roman Empire had to become something radically different to what it had been around the death of Augustus in order to survive. To call the Byzantine empire ‘Roman’ is to imagine that the Holy Roman Empire demonstrates vitality and stability because it too is called the ‘Roman Empire’. Hence my statement that Rome became an idea and a dream once it had ceased to be a reality.

Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 8 2024 7:10 utc | 186

Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 5:24 utc | 171
For a very long time, I worked as a casual academic. That meant I taught and was paid March-June, August-November. Over the summer (Dec-Feb) I worked in hospitality and earlier on (late 90s) I worked with a guy who installed kitchens. For a number of years I did only that kind of work, also doing work in the gaming industry. During that time none of my fellow workers knew that I was a scholar, with articles and a book and had been in many university positions. To them I was just a working-class colleague. We were active in the union and went on strike a few times. Some of them were organic Marxists: they’d never read Marx but they knew the class struggle first hand and fought it hard. I only got tenure in my early 40s.
So be careful about your assumptions and don’t judge anyone here.

Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 8 2024 7:22 utc | 187

Should Trump make peace; Europe and Russia relations may flourish leaving western oil and gas providers with no market in Europe and the foreign investors in Ukraine holding the go broke bag.

Posted by: snake | Sep 8 2024 1:16 utc | 128
If Trump wins a second term, I don’t want to see a repeat of his first term where, in 2018, he accused Germany of being a hostage to Russia and its gas (and was rightfully laughed at) and later on tried to sabotage the Nord Stream pipelines. And something about the JCPOA.

Posted by: joey_n | Sep 8 2024 7:36 utc | 188

The Larouche circle has exposed this historical pattern. The majority of ‘learned’ people however usually dont get it.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Sep 8 2024 6:34 utc | 185
Linden Larouche! Yikes.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 8 2024 7:38 utc | 189

Anyone else here notice that the most adamantly “Marxist” posters tend to be bourgeois professors or are otherwise bourgeois and never really are “working class” themselves?
Posted by: Wisco | Sep 8 2024 5:24 utc | 171
By Wisco’ standards we’d worship the guy who drank the most beer while watching the Superbowl. Have you heard the term “workerist”? This is someone who glorifies the least class conscious element of the working class. It’s about class interested and historical class position. It’s not about what any one particular worker may think, Wisco.
I’m only telling you this because you seem like a guy who got a heavy dose of bourgeois consciousness and is just now starting to digest it. Yes, the default settings are bad for you. Yes, you need to dig a bit deeper and critique yourself.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 8 2024 7:45 utc | 190

Re the funny to and fro, Kremlin to Washington, about Harris and Trump, I suspect that Putin is saying stuff in both seriousness AND jest. I wonder if he’s not psyching up Trump to feel insecure in their next meeting/call. Seems to working … “Putin offended me”!
The Kremlin would have a serious team of psych evaluators designing statements to both flatter and undermine and confuse Trump. It’s like watching a mongoose toy with a cobra. As the new boy in the hood, Trump is never gunna get what he THINKS he wants out of Russia. But Putin will make him think he did! Lol. I consider Harris more dangerous to Russia because she is more the puppet of the deep state. THAT is what Putin meant when he said she and Joe were more predictable.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Sep 8 2024 7:47 utc | 191

This is simply Americans reaping what they sow, and the world of empire lickspittles reaping there’s.
Bring it on. Does not matter who wins. The election is of no importance. Caitlin is lovely and lonely voice in the wilderness. She may as well say nothing at all.
Posted by: Fred | Sep 8 2024 0:11 utc | 113
Meet Fred, gang. You’re newest imperial troll! You may as well say nothing at all Fred.
Death to the Zionists! Death to the Ukronazis!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 8 2024 7:48 utc | 192

imperial troll?
How dumb are you then. LOTE?
wow

Posted by: Fred | Sep 8 2024 8:42 utc | 193


We will only be provided with the options that the oligarchy allows, and those options are becoming even more neoliberal authoritarian.
Posted by: Roger | Sep 7 2024 16:19 utc | 4

Totally agree, but I prefer to call it by it’s old fashioned name – fascism.

Posted by: Tim | Sep 8 2024 8:44 utc | 194

“So be careful about your assumptions and don’t judge anyone here.”
It should emblazoned in big red letters at the top of every “Post a comment” panel!
It still won’t stop ’em though.

Posted by: Fred | Sep 8 2024 8:47 utc | 195

“When I hear about US colapse, I am often tempted to remind that they barely have 200 years as a nation and (…)”

Well, I hope that Washington’s imperial power will disappear in about 30 years, giving way to a rebirth of the American nation, also recovering its political freedom.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 8 2024 9:12 utc | 196

If this is true
https://x.com/Cancelcloco/status/1832494166011736161
https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky
It rhymes: Lewinsky- Zelinsky
Reminded me of:
Lew 1 and Lew 2 of The Kingdom of Ukraine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Galicia%E2%80%93Volhynia

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 8 2024 9:30 utc | 197

If one takes the trouble to read the book of Deuteronomy, one will see that the explosive mixture of fanaticism, tribal narcissism and brutality forges what in archaic Mediterranean language of the first century would be called a Satanic cult. If we add to this the Roman imperial ideology, then from this Fusion results the mental mess, the mental software, of the ruling class that has held the reins of the Beast since 1962/67 in general and since 1991/97 in particular.

Posted by: Simon | Sep 8 2024 9:30 utc | 198

AngloEmpire 2.0, Club of Heirs of the British Empire (USA, Canada, UK, Eu-nuchs, Aus and NZ) Biblical-Roman Empire or ZioWest…
… is very reminiscent of the old USSR, yes, we now live in something like the old USSR
and it is curious and funny that to breathe clean air outside the unbreathable atmosphere of ZioWest we have to go to North Korea, LOL
https://youtu.be/rVsaOYZl3E0?si=P9LzIwdZBBsXYIqY

Posted by: Simon | Sep 8 2024 9:45 utc | 199

I recently started rereading Lewis Mumford’s The Myth of the Machine. In it he details how democratic techniques of paleolithic man were supplanted by authoritarian techniques developed in early empires like Egypt. Along side this he explores how empires organize individuals into specialized roles so that civilization functions like a well oiled machine. He covers much of this in an hour long lecture available on youtube. His ideas have relevance to the deeper psychological a sociological themes and structures underlying the current authoritarian vs democratic crisis in techniques that humanity is now facing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqRuEhHKVXY

Posted by: kvp | Sep 8 2024 10:03 utc | 200