Caitlin Johnstone - Trump Vs. Cheney
Busy.
But please read Caitlin:
It’s The Trump Party Vs The Cheney Party
One of earth’s most evil living beings, Dick “Darth Vader” Cheney, has officially endorsed Kamala Harris for president.
I agree and see nothing that could be done about it.
Posted by b on September 7, 2024 at 15:46 UTC | Permalink
next page »Thanks for the posting b.
I saw that Cheney call out and laughed like hell. What a hoot!
Just like the bigger picture self immolation of global empire, the Red/Blue match we are seeing will be entertaining in the same way.
One way to stay sober this (s)election season is to only drink when the Red/Blue teams propose real support for the masses over the oligarchs.
Once again the public will be provided with glaring examples of what we don't want our society to work like so that when the China/Russia axis puts down the God Of Mammon bully cult we can make social organization sausage w/o the fealty to an inherited elite and their hangers on.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 7 2024 16:02 utc | 2
I was warned about Russia using sophisticated means to influence the election, so I'm not surprised.
Posted by: too scents | Sep 7 2024 16:05 utc | 3
A quote from the article:
“I’m gonna wrap this up with a warning, which is that there is a new plan for our already broken two-party system. The plan is to have two parties. One, a batshit crazy MAGA party led by Trump or DeSantis that will bulldoze your rights. And the second one will be a far-right “respectable” party led by Liz Cheney that will also bulldoze your rights. They will call the Cheney party the Democrats and pretend that a creeping capitulation to a right-wing agenda is some kind of act of healing bipartisanship.”
That's exactly what the US has, and now to a great extent the UK with Starmer. They had to fight off Corbyn and Bernie (much less fighting required with Bernie) to stop a resurgence of social democracy (actual socialism has always been off the table). In Canada the NDP threw away its chance to govern after the death of Jack Layton, and now we have the Conservatives aping Trump and the NDP forgetting that they are supposed to be a representative of the working people not the oligarchy. We will only be provided with the options that the oligarchy allows, and those options are becoming even more neoliberal authoritarian.
She left out Cheney’s unique status as self selected VP in a stolen war criminal administration. Are there other examples of this?
Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 7 2024 16:23 utc | 5
With the creepy Cheney on her side, Harris will lose her "moderated" image. Trump has become the angel of peace in the world..
Posted by: Virgile | Sep 7 2024 16:24 utc | 6
One has to ask themselves, what does Cheney have to gain from this endorsement?
It's like someone surrendering after they are mortally wounded laying on the ground in the middle of nowhere with no one to surrender to.
What does this do to Kamala with the hard Left? I'm talking support-wise (votes don't matter). It should be as damaging to her among that cohort as a David Duke endorsement used to be for the Republicans.
I still think Harris steals this election. We just saw 4 years of a mentally debilitated senior citizen. The idea that there is any merit to the office of US President is a delusional perspective.
Between the vote rigging and AIPAC, it doesn't matter who the person is, what they say, what they have done (good or bad).
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 7 2024 16:36 utc | 7
Who the hell (or in Wash-town politics) is this dick Chanegy -- and to what has he ever sold mis ass successfully?
I should wisj´h commentators stopped to comment on the doubly unipolar politics uf teh fales ély named USA and instead payd attention to what's happening in countries and states wher folke ar better educated and more knowledgeable about World affairs than theose over-extended stomacs of fat-eating Yankees, Dixiees and Californians -- and instaéad reported on what real human populations (like New Guineans, Ocinavans or Burmese. Santali and Nagaland rebels) instead of the sheep between Rio Grande and the Canadian border
Posted by: Tollef Ås | Sep 7 2024 16:37 utc | 8
It's a chair-gripping struggle between a big satanist pedo zionist and a big satanist pedo zionist!
How exciting!
Posted by: Michael A | Sep 7 2024 16:37 utc | 9
Does this mean Trump really isn’t part of the powers that be, or just that he is not a full member. Because I thought Trump was one on them?
None the less, to Katlin’s point, does not really matter if Trump or Harris win, it will be more of the same, a race to the bottom for the West. Just not sure if it will be France, Germany, of the UK will get their first. Promise it will not be the USA; however the USA will make the biggest thud when it falls.
Posted by: Dr Smith | Sep 7 2024 16:40 utc | 10
Are we in a hall of mirrors? Here's Cheney the Dick and faaaar over there is V.V. Putin...and hold your hats on, gang. Both parties are partying up the scene by endorsing, check this now...the Giggling Goose, replacing the $enile One who Depends on his daily ice cream cone to maintain some connexion with this Bizarro Kult-Sure.
For sure, this is NOT the America I grew up in...the current Clown Circus is even worse.
Are we experiencing Alice in Blunderland? Did the Yellow Brick Road turn Toto into a Toad? Does the Mask-her-aiding Pretzeldunce actually wears Depends rather than running away stark raving nekkid?
Do the programmers act-you-ally think we take this all seriously?...only those who are Severiously terminally deluded.
Posted by: aristodemos | Sep 7 2024 16:53 utc | 12
I suppose I could work up dome modicum, some iota, some infinitesimal scintilla of respect for Harris if shr repudiated Darth’s endorsement, but I’m not waiting around for the Twelfth of Never.
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 7 2024 16:54 utc | 13
"I agree and see nothing that could be done about it."
But why SHOULD anything be done about it? The Democratic party establishment has become exactly the right home for the Cheneys: the party of the oligarchy's status quo, the party of endlessly profitable war and oppression,the party that survives by selling its soul using whatever lies are necessary to getting its control over our country's habitually manipulable voters. Is the prospect that those voters might become less manipulable if they noticed that our long-standing duopoly has become the uniparty they have always found so reassuring? Could they abandon the two parties they have always relied upon to channel their bipartisan vigor into the status quo channels while each promises something else?
Surely that way lies chaos, and the Cheneys want anything but that even though (just as happened 8 years ago) a good dose of non-establishment chaos might not look all that bad to a lot of people who haven't been very happy over (and even before) that time - and this just may be another time when voters' eyes may be more open to being less habitual in their votes.
Posted by: StirThePot | Sep 7 2024 17:01 utc | 14
Another good read of hers is Voting Explained.
It doesn't matter if you vote red, blue or green.
US "Democracy" is rigged in such a way that the status quo is guaranteed.
Posted by: xor | Sep 7 2024 17:05 utc | 15
None of this is really a surprise. It's another lesser-of-two-evils election with the one glaring exception of Jill Stein.
As for Putin's seeming endorsement of Harris, that was a 100% put-up as the Russians know very well what to expect from the Outlaw US Empire's policy come 2025 unless Stein pulls an extremely unlikely miracle. Russian and Chinese policy will remain on its current course, which was well spelled out over the last several days and reported at my substack.
The next round of international jousting will begin of 24 September with the UNGA Debates where I expect to see wholesale condemnation of the Zionists and the Outlaw US Empire for their massive crimes.
She left out Cheney’s unique status as self selected VP in a stolen war criminal administration. Are there other examples of this?
Posted by: Not Ewe | Sep 7 2024 16:23 utc | 5
JFK/LBJ 1960 and Reagan/GHW Bush 1980 come to mind. (I'm not saying there are not others either.)
Posted by: Bemildred | Sep 7 2024 17:11 utc | 17
Time to dust this off:
“More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.”
― Woody Allen
Posted by: waynorinorway | Sep 7 2024 17:16 utc | 18
(I'm sorry to repeat myself)
-Roman plebs, a moment of attention
-On my right, Brutus Maximus Rusticus
-On my left, Rusticus Maximus Brutus
-Roman plebs, you can choose either of the two
---
The bloody imperial comedy is no longer funny
The coalition in power (1962/67-) until recently at least presented two candidates, and the plebs could vote between the candidate presented by the Pharisees and the candidate presented by the Sadducees
I sincerely think, as i have said before, that we should stop talking about this joke
This joke has already gone too far
Posted by: Simon | Sep 7 2024 17:17 utc | 19
I'm not American, but I'd endorse a blind mole rat, if it ran against Cheney. So Trump it is.
Posted by: Rune Denmark | Sep 7 2024 17:17 utc | 20
OMG if even a monster like cheney cant stand trump, trump MUST be really really bad.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 17:27 utc | 21
All the synapses of the American Republic have misfired at once and when the patient regains consciousness it is a State of Exception.
One of earth’s most evil living beings, Dick “Darth Vader” Cheney,
I know I am nit picking here but Paul Wolfowitz is the number one.
Posted by: hopehely | Sep 7 2024 17:33 utc | 23
Fuck Cheney and his brood of dykes and commies. As one of the unfortunate ones who has actually met and briefed evil fucks like him, Schumer and Hillary and too many other politicians during my time in active mil and DOD Civ. I can say when you are with these people you can literally feel something isn't right about them and they are fucking dangerous not just the usual stupid or corrupt but truly evil and willingly to let the american people or really anyone outside their little circle of elites die to advance them and their handlers....
Posted by: IcyReaper | Sep 7 2024 17:35 utc | 24
The Trump assassination attempt bears all the hallmarks of Dick Cheney, the master of 911. It is clearly MIHOP, not LIHOP, and the theory of the lone shooter from the roof is for long refuted.
Posted by: mk | Sep 7 2024 17:41 utc | 25
Kind of related, the Department of Justice going after Russia Today citing interference in our elections is a blatant campaign endorsement for Kamala Harris because interfering Russia Bad supports Trump. The biggest election interference is coming from our own government. How is this Constitutional under the 1A? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
Posted by: Willow | Sep 7 2024 17:41 utc | 26
"I agree and see nothing that could be done about it."
Well, wage slaves could build a class based anti war movement or a general strike with political demands for an end to all war making abroad and a reinvestment of the military budget into infrastructure repair and social programs at home. Perhaps a demand that all Americans get at least the same access to healthcare as Israelis?
But, yeah, within the false democracy of the ruling class, nothing can be done.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 17:46 utc | 27
Dick “Darth Vader” Cheney, has officially endorsed Kamala Harris for president.So Cheney agrees with Putin?
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 7 2024 17:53 utc | 28
Every 4 years we are told this is the most important election ever, well in this case this is least important election ever as both parties are to the right of Raygun, so like Caitlin says we the people lose and the oligarchs win. I’ll be voting for Stein, screw the uniparty
Posted by: Ggersh | Sep 7 2024 17:53 utc | 29
Oh man, Darth Vader endorsed the Cackler? And I didn't even get a chance to quote a clever line I heard yet.
"The Democrats are just Dick Cheney with a rainbow flag."
Satire is dead.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Sep 7 2024 17:55 utc | 30
(I'm sorry to repeat myself)
-Roman plebs, a moment of attention
-On my right, Brutus Maximus Rusticus
-On my left, Rusticus Maximus Brutus
-Roman plebs, you can choose either of the two
---
The bloody imperial comedy is no longer funny
The coalition in power (1962/67-) until recently at least presented two candidates, and the plebs could vote between the candidate presented by the Pharisees and the candidate presented by the Sadducees
I sincerely think, as i have said before, that we should stop talking about this joke
This joke has already gone too far
Posted by: Simon | Sep 7 2024 17:17 utc | 19
Where's our Grachus? Our Spartacus?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 17:57 utc | 31
I used to think Dick Cheney was the Anti-Christ; now I think it is Netanyahu.
Remember when Cheney, drunk, shot his hunting partner and host in the face and torso with shotgun pellets and the guy apologized to Cheney for 'getting his face in the way"?(1)
Good grief.
1. "Resurfaced footage shows the moment Harry Whittington apologised to Dick Cheney after former vice president shot him in face.
The infamous clip re-emerged following the death of the prominent Texas lawyer at age 95 on Saturday, 4 February." (2)
2. https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/us-harry-whittington-dick-cheney-b2277004.html
I suppose I could work up dome modicum, some iota, some infinitesimal scintilla of respect for Harris if shr repudiated Darth’s endorsement, but I’m not waiting around for the Twelfth of Never.
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 7 2024 16:54 utc | 13
Come on now? Why would that matter? The Dems already say they feel for the Palestinians, that they will reign in the billionaires, that they oppose extreme economic inequality, that they support immigrants, that they oppose police violence against the population etc, etc.
They'll say anything and then do the opposite. Again, it's what they do that matters.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 18:02 utc | 35
Fuck Cheney and his brood of dykes and commies. As one of the unfortunate ones who has actually met and briefed evil fucks like him, Schumer and Hillary and too many other politicians during my time in active mil and DOD Civ. I can say when you are with these people you can literally feel something isn't right about them and they are fucking dangerous not just the usual stupid or corrupt but truly evil and willingly to let the american people or really anyone outside their little circle of elites die to advance them and their handlers....
Posted by: IcyReaper | Sep 7 2024 17:35 utc | 24
Caitlyn has another good one recently about how stupid it is to refer to Dems as commies. Infinitely more retarded to refer to any Cheney as a commie. Look it up.
I share your rage, icy, but it's going to take a little more study, just a wee bit more, to actually disempower the Dems. Calling anyone in their orbit a communist just AIDS them in their fraud.
You want the Dems to win? Keep telling everyone they are socialist, communist fighters for the working class against the billionaires.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 18:08 utc | 36
Trump has at least offered to poke a stick in the spokes of Bibi's front wheel, sort of.
He's still mightily pissed off with Bibi for stabbing him in the back AFTER he bent over backwards to make all of Bibi's Greater Jewrael dreams come true.
For Trump, it's all about Loyalty and Bibi has outed himself as completely untrustworthy scum.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 7 2024 18:12 utc | 37
For me it is akin to a musical earworm, it is going to roll around in my brain in the background the evil Dick going for Kamala (not a surprise of his daughter going that way).
As far as votes for Kamala, not many will drift over via Dicks endorsement, but money for the RNC candidate via other scum facists of Cheney's ilk will be funneled into congressional and senatorial races or the existing college Bircher"s grooming committees (as detailed by Jane Mayer in "Dark Money ...).
Reading the Oppenheimer book at present (got it real cheap as ebook) - the insularity and insufferable ego of Truman as a deciding vector of the turn to rabid anti-USSR in the aftermath of WWII (instead of a disdainful detente) bears some similarities to Kamala. A shallow person who is extremely difficult to work with who will keep the failing flailing ship of state pointed at the iceberg.
Unfortunately the Titanic USofA is a nuclear power. Dangerous times.
Posted by: paxmark1 | Sep 7 2024 18:13 utc | 38
I wonder how many votes will change from Cheney's endorsement. Some old democrats might just back out on supporting Harris. Probably not many though. Republicans switching to Harris? I don't think so based on my conversations with neighbors. Maybe some Republican Rotarian types who are getting less comfortable with the rednecks.
bottom line, my guess is a net minus for Kamala but she's got the vote counters on "her" team.
Posted by: migueljose | Sep 7 2024 18:17 utc | 39
Wow, endorsed by Cheney and Putin, I'm so confused!
Trump's quite the troublemaker, I have a soft spot for troublemakers, good thing I've sworn off voting.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 7 2024 18:17 utc | 40
Jill Stein for pres. The ONLY candidate not bought by the zionist entity
Posted by: RP | Sep 7 2024 18:24 utc | 41
"I wonder how many votes will change from Cheney's endorsement. Some old democrats might just back out on supporting Harris. Probably not many though. Republicans switching to Harris? I don't think so based on my conversations with neighbors. Maybe some Republican Rotarian types who are getting less comfortable with the rednecks.
bottom line, my guess is a net minus for Kamala but she's got the vote counters on "her" team."
Posted by: migueljose | Sep 7 2024 18:17 utc | 39
I have the idea that some centrist Dems see Cheney supporting Kamal might disgust enough to jump to the Republicans-which isn't quite correct as trump is not a Republican , he is a populist that has hijacked the party like the Gracchi, Caesar, Andrew Jackson et al all reactionaries to Oligarchic systems ; or not quite as damaging but a net loss nevertheless, the centrist Dems might feel deflated by evil Cheney joining their blue team and not bother to vote.
I mirrored Caitlin's essay at my substack, "It’s The Trump Party Vs The Cheney Party", and suggest others do likewise or at least share it with your circles, as we know this sort of analysis will never be seen in the mainstream unless we force it there.
The real 'acid test' of Cheney's Kamala endorsement is not about politics its about war.
Cheney is for War (1), Trump is not, yet all the Dems, even the most radical ones, are to the man/woman/gay/transgender and dog are Warmongers.
1. ie. MONEY.
Now hopefully the last American will notice that Ms. Harris represents the scum of the world.
Posted by: Oliver Krug | Sep 7 2024 18:46 utc | 45
America has become a nation where people can’t even take their own lives seriously. Slave morality has prevailed. It is ripe for the next step.
Medical malpractice, overdose deaths, food/pesticide induced morbidity and mortality have been the slow buildup. The fast part will start soon.
There will be a major world war to prune the most effective people remaining, then the “owners” will preside over another one of their domestic mass murders, like they did in Russia, Cambodia and China. It is class and racial warfare, and you are the target. The best thing you can do now is to get some distance before the starting bell sounds, and don’t let your children die for Israel.
If you want to effectively fight them now instead of later, don’t pay taxes and trade only in barter. Don’t work too hard and don’t overproduce. They will quickly send their system pigs to end you if they find out, so be clever and quiet.
They believe they will usher in the end of the world for their demented desire of you being enslaved or dead. They really do hate you for your freedoms, and they hate the idea of natural rights. They are insane but hold the levers of power with the strength of billions. Avoid groups, religions, all controlled by the same authority, working for the same insane ends. You are in danger. Your survival is at stake. Good luck.
Posted by: Anoniy | Sep 7 2024 18:52 utc | 46
@ ahenobarbus @ 18:02
Please don’t confuse “some modicum, some iota, some infinitesimal scintilla of respect for Harris” — which is only hypothetical anyway — with approbation, let alone support.
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 7 2024 18:58 utc | 47
Thanks you 'b' - hope all progressing well
Well worth reading.
Yes. A mirage for the masses. Limits of the right roll on ...
Posted by: Don Firineach | Sep 7 2024 18:59 utc | 48
Now that it has recently/again become 'fashionable' to assassinate POTUSes, this problem should quickly resolve itself if the 'wrong' person is (s)elected as POTUS.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 7 2024 19:00 utc | 49
"America has become a nation where people can’t even take their own lives seriously. Slave morality has prevailed. "
Posted by: Anoniy | Sep 7 2024 18:52 utc | 46
I disagree.
Slave's morality, through the ages has been superior to their oppressors; being repressed adds strength emotionally, physically and spiritually.
Being an 'oppressor' breeds immorality, debauchery, indolence and physical frailty-see Dune-Prison Planet or Fremen or Houthis.
Here in North America were are Serfs, dumb serfs if we were Slaves we would be looking how to revolt not Sheppleish.
The times, they are a 'changin'
When will Dick Cheney suddenly turn around and shoot Kamala in the face?
Posted by: Cyril | Sep 7 2024 19:03 utc | 51
john nudo @
Hunting with Dick.
Great title, are you in CA or NYC? Work a pitch and try and sell it.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 7 2024 19:13 utc | 53
Things have got back to sanity (all most) in britain, the 'street' umma have spoken again.
The racist scum lost.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20r7wzke97o
Americans should'nt be fooled by a fake democracy.
Fight the racist scum from both partys.
Get into the street and protest peacefully.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 19:21 utc | 54
OMG if even a monster like cheney cant stand trump, trump MUST be really really bad.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 17:27 utc | 21
Sarc. Certainly.
Trump, an in-your-face narcissist, bereft of team playing, but still a guy that knows the intricacies of building buildings in that Mob/Banker cesspool of New York, at least has real world experience and hasn't been a Government Parasite all his life.
Cheney hates Trump because Trump flat-out said the war in Iraq was a mistake. A Big Mistake. When your entire lifestyle is paid from killing innocent, yet vulnerable foreigners, you are compelled to hate Trump.
Kamala just got a political sheetball thrown at her. She caught it and said how pleased she was. So, yes, what you see in Kamala is real.
Posted by: kupkee | Sep 7 2024 19:27 utc | 55
It absolutely does not matter who will be "elected", the power is in the hands of the neocons.
All the rest is blablabla without any meaning or interest.
Posted by: Naive | Sep 7 2024 19:34 utc | 56
Progressives in U.S. fully owned by the Military Industrial Complex.
They are also full in with censoring ideas with the term misinformation aka contrary to the MIC permanent war propaganda.
Harris will be their next figurehead, running since 1992 with a four year break, which slowed their Ukraine schemes.
Posted by: paddy | Sep 7 2024 19:37 utc | 57
To add to my last comment....
It should go without saying, but i'll say it anyway.
The photo of the two sides both waving flags....
One side is brainwashed by the media the over side is'nt. The flags will give you the answer.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 19:40 utc | 58
Rather than revolution I think what you will see is the formation of a new political party around MAGA that will not include the Democrat or Republican establishment/elites.
The major actors on the poltical end in the formation of the New Party will be Trump, RFK Jr, Governors like DeSantis and Abbott, and select House and Senate.
On the public and private sector side its hard to say. Don't think anthroprogenic global warmers will be there, but a resource conservation agenda will be; but who will represent that interest isn't really clear. The reindustrialists most definitely yes, and they have trillions of ready cash to invest and are tired of the third world nonsense including migration. Don't knowbhow much they will let Europe or China/India play, but Russian may be at the table. Reason, I have often thought Russian and the traditional USA base had more in common than not.
I expect the New Party will be formed prior to the 2026 mid-term elections so Senators and Representives who do not want to join can be campaigned against.
Posted by: Jerr | Sep 7 2024 19:41 utc | 59
First rate analysis of current political reality.
"Neoliberalism has largely succeeded in destroying any concept of a society of coherent groups, replacing it with a mass of alienated, utility-seeking consumers, compulsorily ascribed to newly-invented and marketed “identities.” Political parties these days operate like product manufacturers, targeting market segments with differential advertising. Understandably, therefore, the “consumers” of politics move from party to party as they might move from brand to brand. A fractured society will inevitably produce a fractured political system, and there are no technical solutions to that. In the end, all genuine political struggles are articulations of social struggles, by, or on behalf of, authentically existing groups. So this year we commemorate the fortieth anniversary of the crushing of the 1984 miners’ strike in the UK; the last stand of organised labour against the brutalities of Thatcherism. But what was striking about that episode was the social solidarity within and between mining communities: the men manned the picket lines and supported other strikers while the women somehow kept families together and food on the table. I suspect that for anyone born after, say, 1980, this must sound like a historical novel. The social, and even family structures have long disappeared, and these days feminists would be bused in to explain to the women that their real enemies were their husbands and the patriarchy, not the government and the employers.?"
https://aurelien2022.substack.com/p/the-machine-stops
Posted by: JAB | Sep 7 2024 19:44 utc | 60
Reuters generates free propaganda for the Democrats. (Why isn't this considered a $contribution$ in campaign finance laws?)
Every front page headline at Reuters is negative if it involves Trump,
positive if it mentions Karma Harris.
This morning the headline was, I thought, a bit over the top even for Reuters.
Donald Trump looks to excite white, small-town base at Wisconsin rally [bolding is mine]
Reuters has changed it, as of an hour ago (?), to:
Trump looks to energize small-town base at Wisconsin rally
They used "excite" -- excite the whites -- bet they really wanted to use "incite".
Close enough? They rhyme.
Posted by: librul | Sep 7 2024 19:44 utc | 61
Trump's continual attacks on the "Neo Cons" all but exonerated them. Perhaps the Neo Conservatives were the heroes all along.
Posted by: Inka | Sep 7 2024 19:49 utc | 62
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Sep 7 2024 16:36 utc | 7
One has to ask themselves, what does Cheney have to gain from this endorsement?
Possibly a trump win? I have no faith that the blues will see how this person and its actions dont jive w the dems rhetoric, hope does spring eternal tho.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 7 2024 19:53 utc | 63
The Trump assassination attempt bears all the hallmarks of Dick Cheney, the master of 911. It is clearly MIHOP, not LIHOP, and the theory of the lone shooter from the roof is for long refuted.
Posted by: mk | Sep 7 2024 17:41 utc | 25
The trump assassination attack was 100% fake and organised by Trump and his people. "My hand was covered in blood" - no, it wasn't. Trump's doctor: "There was a 2cm hole in his ear" - and the following day he had a bandaid and the day after it was healed. Not a single drop of blood on his clothes. "Let me get my shoes. Let me get my shoes. Let me get my shoes." One shoe off means a willing display for the satanic masons. Within 24 hours Trump had a line of shoes for sale, a thousand pairs. A photographer was right there to get perfect photos of the shoes. The flag teleported out of nowhere into the pictures. No one in the audience was the slightest bit concerned for their safety, lazing around and rubbing their bellies, even though one of them was supposedly killed.
Trump, having survived dozens of assassination attempts, agreeing to go on stage in a open area with hundreds of spots to shoot him and no fences or security? Trump deciding to appear in some tiny little village in the middle of nowhere, and the audience is made up of nothing but crisis actors, each of whom has been seen many times the world over in other staged events?
Laughable naiveness.
Posted by: Michael A | Sep 7 2024 19:59 utc | 64
Show me a trump rally crowd waveing the palistian flag.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 20:14 utc | 65
Once upon a time, Ronald Reagan won an election when the near mythical “Reagan Democrat” turned out to sweep Carter from office. Young movers and shakers in the Democratic Party surmised that the way to win elections was to be more like Reagan. They called it the “third way” and its founding masterminds included the Clintons and Biden.
The Democratic Party has been run by them (and their allies) for most of the last 30ish years if we take Clinton’s presidential election as the starting point. A Cheney endorsement is simply the logical outcome. Note that the tradition of getting ridiculously rich from being president also started with the Clintons. And that’s what really drew Trump to presidential politics.
He did, however, accentuate the “Tea Party” current of the 21st century Republican Party voters. Not its politicians traditionally but the southern strategy voters of Nixon and the Reagan Democrat. The issue for the likes of the Cheneys is that somehow the average Republican voter seems to have actually taken control of the party. They need a home that’s less crass.
Dick will be welcome in the house that Bill built. All the familiar bankers are here, plus the government contract and intelligence agency tech firms, the neocon foreign policy has roots going back to Clinton so it’s quite at home. There’s plenty of graft to be had. And minor differences aside, Brzezinski as the modern godfather of Democratic Party foreign policy isn’t far off from neocon ideology.
Posted by: Lex | Sep 7 2024 20:15 utc | 66
It's a chair-gripping struggle between a big satanist pedo zionist and a big satanist pedo zionist!
Posted by: Michael A
You are not correct. It's a struggle between a big satanist pedo zionist and a big zionist pedo satanist.
See? They're definitely two totally unique parties. Totally not the same.
Posted by: Derp | Sep 7 2024 20:35 utc | 68
Dear B,
So Dastardly Dick Cheney is officially supporting Kamala Harris for the US Presidency? Who would want to see anything that can be done to stop this? When you see your enemies hell-bent on following the fast track to total oblivion, the least you can do is to get out of of their way and watch them sail over the cliff into the deep abyss below.
It truly would be something though if the US public decided to boycott voting in November, and the actual percentage of the electorate who bothers to vote falls into single digits in most states. No doubt though the Demopublicans and the mainstream news media will pretend huge turn-outs for their candidates. What the Electoral College might do though, when faced with actual voting results, could be anyone's guess.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Sep 7 2024 20:59 utc | 69
@ Refinnejenna | Sep 7 2024 20:59 utc | 69 who doesn't consider the Jill Stein option like myself and others will take....please do
I think that by November there may be many more wanting to see the change that the Red/Blue teams are not offering and vote for Jill Stein...at least that is my hope for America.
I continue to laugh about the Cheney endorsement of Harris. Maybe Harris should dump Walz and have Cheney be her running mate....grin
The Hollywood shit show continues until it doesn't and such entertainment of fecal matter we are watching....hope we learn what we don't want going forward from this shit show.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 7 2024 21:07 utc | 70
Wagelaborer ( Sep 7 2024 17:55 utc | 30 ) wrote:
"Satire is dead."
Yup they keep killing it over and over, but maybe soon it starts killing them back? Cheers to that!
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I don't care! :D
"Faith No More - We Care a Lot"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQhX8PbNUWI
The "we" isn't the band or you or me.
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Are we dealing with clowns who think they can outsmart and/or "help" their limited concept of God, and for whom every warning is taken as an encouragement?
Are the Russians clued in? They seem to be saying that they keep relying on a dwindling supply of sanity still entrenched in various places, and that's not really much of a plan.
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If (and it's still an "if") they manage to get Harris elected the next step in their plan could be to kill her if that is what they think needs to happen (some will recognize the pattern I'm drawing).
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Please leave the satanists out of it, I doubt most of them would want to touch a US politician with a stick ...but maybe with a trident or a hot poker :P
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Sep 7 2024 21:08 utc | 71
"What does this do to Kamala with the hard Left? "
There's a hard left in the USA? You could have fooled me!
Posted by: lester | Sep 7 2024 21:26 utc | 72
Posted by: Apollyon | Sep 7 2024 17:58 utc | 32
Neoconservative is synonym to Jewish.
Excuss my English, but can somebody pls. explain something for me?
Neo i believe means New Economic Order- but what does the word Con means?
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Sep 7 2024 21:28 utc | 73
Barflies, this has happened before. Make a close study of the history of Rome c.60BC-14AD and the genius of Augustus. Though it is old, dated and battered, Syme's Roman Revolution is still a gripping read. Every so often it speaks to an epoch, and it speaks to ours. It is the great opening statement about how it's possible to blink (so to speak) and the world as you know it vanishes into thin air.
That said, Rome's civil wars and the installation of the Principate is not 21st century USA. But the rate of change, dressed up in conservative rhetoric that masks interests we will never guess, reminds me of Octavian's slow-motion coup d'etat. It took the Romans until ~90AD (i.e. Tacitus) to admit the res publica (whatever that was in reality) was gone. We may have to wait centuries yet before America no longer burdens its self-description with the word 'democracy'.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 21:28 utc | 74
"Does this mean Trump really isn’t part of the powers that be, or just that he is not a full member. Because I thought Trump was one on them?"
There are rival factions, none of them terribly intelligent. Trump-is-a-power-that be, but not the Cheney faction.
Posted by: lester | Sep 7 2024 21:30 utc | 75
Addendum to 74...
There is a moment, immediately after the death of Augustus, when the Roman Senate was at a loss: do things return to 'normal'? What is 'normal' now? With the old man at the helm for so long there was barely anyone alive who could remember 'before'. Tiberius Nero Caesar, Augustus' legal and political heir, entered the senate and made it clear he didn't want to replace Caesar. 'How about take one of the consulships?', the senate suggested. No. In the end they persuaded him by placing a special chair mid-way between the curule thrones of the two consuls. Henceforth the princeps would sit in a space, which at first signified an anomaly, something supplementary and extra, but which would eventually be understood as the very centre of power from which the state derived its legitimacy. From this the medieval and modern notion of the state would derive...
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 21:37 utc | 76
@Paul from Norway | Sep 7 2024 21:28 utc | 73
Neo : new
Con : conservative
Except they are not new nor conservative
Posted by: Norwegian | Sep 7 2024 21:37 utc | 77
RFK Jr endorsed Trump as the lesser of two evils.
Dick Cheney endorsed Harris as the greater of two evils.
Posted by: Sentient | Sep 7 2024 21:39 utc | 78
Show me a trump rally crowd waveing the palistian flag.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 20:14 utc | 65
Fact is mark2 neither side is pro palestine, regardless of flags u see. Make believing any different is to choose the wrong side. The genocide is on brandon. Not that trump wouldnt just that brandon is. Beleiving a choice between two of the same things, that are just dressed differently is seriously brainwashed. Imo.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 7 2024 21:41 utc | 79
Tannenhouser @ 79
We agree ! In America that is true.
In the uk its at present more in a state of flux....within the Labour party. But its leader is a rabed zionist. The police and justice smell potential civil war so have chainged sides and are against the far right.
(Genraily speaking)
Both harris and trump lead party's that want to dominate the world...
We've seen how that go's down.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 21:59 utc | 80
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"Neocon"
It is an academic euphemism for not using the most accurate word that was used by the common people:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ziocon
Posted by: Simon | Sep 7 2024 22:09 utc | 81
Syme's Roman Revolution
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 21:28 utc | 74
Good reference! Just read the introduction. However, in terms of analogizing to the past, it's hard to see the current era as that of the civil war and empire in Rome. The US is really at the end of its trajectory as a world power, whereas the civil wars in Rome resulted in a vitality and power that lasted hundreds of years.
Romulus Augustulus was the last emperor of the Western Roman Empire, reigning from 475–476 AD. In 476, he was deposed by Odoacer, a Germanic warlord.
Trump or Kamala would really be something like Romulus Augustulus, whose name desperately sought to fetishistically play on the power of Roman glory from a period long past in reality. They are both play actors desperately trying to appear as the defenders of not just a democracy, but a material power that has evaporated in thin air. Just stooges ready to be eventually kicked to dust by external powers growing strong outside the increasingly shrinking limits of the empire.
The American civil war to me is more akin to the Roman civil war as it gave way to US Imperialism just decades after Lincoln was murdered. The era of US Imperialism opening in the early 1900s was more akin to the end of the Roman Republic and whatever democracy of the elites that was associated with it.
But, as you note, historical analogies are limited.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:13 utc | 82
But one of the chefs is missing from the list of this urban dictionary: Joe Biden
Posted by: Simon | Sep 7 2024 22:17 utc | 83
Show me a trump rally crowd waveing the palistian flag.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 20:14 utc | 65
Fact is mark2 neither side is pro palestine, regardless of flags u see. Make believing any different is to choose the wrong side. The genocide is on brandon. Not that trump wouldnt just that brandon is. Beleiving a choice between two of the same things, that are just dressed differently is seriously brainwashed. Imo.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Sep 7 2024 21:41 utc | 79
And the belief that the Democrats are somehow more sensitive to the needs of the working class is the reason there is no real left in the US. That party is the graveyard of every progressive social movement in the history of the country.
I used to understand why some wage slaves might believe the Dems might be a bit better on issue of war, class, etc. Today anyone pushing that idea is either an ignoramus or a bald faced liar.
That party has driven the world to the brink of nuclear war, has funded, directed and aided in every way and ongoing genocide and is now the preferred party of most billionaires. It will not even recognize a working class, replacing it with a massive idpol psyop to divide it's citizens into imaginary racial, gender and sexual preference tribes.
Anybody supporting this party is an absolute reactionary. They would have supported Hitler in his day.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:22 utc | 84
Just when you think clown world can't get any nuttier....At least we don't have a horse in the senate,yet
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Sep 7 2024 22:22 utc | 85
The Roman-Biblical Empire
(1) The Wall Street Wars (1846-1930) perfectly summarized in "War is a racket"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
(2) The Wars of Adolf 2, where Adolf 1 left off ... Washington took up the baton (1945-1991)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jakarta_Method
(3) The Ziocon Wars (1991-2020)
(4) The Wars of the Final Delirium (2020-2049)
Posted by: Simon | Sep 7 2024 22:24 utc | 86
What does this do to Kamala with the hard Left? "
There's a hard left in the USA? You could have fooled me!
Posted by: lester | Sep 7 2024 21:26 utc | 72
Oh, but there is. It's just powerless and totally disconnected from the working class. In other words a limp dick that produces nada.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:25 utc | 87
Trump's one and only crime is the same as Berlusconi's and Orban's, he thinks he can be an old style power broker when the system has well transitioned to totalitarianism. The plutocrats now only allow technocratic managers that follow orders, the managers are chosen exactly for their character flaws, mediocrity, obsequiousness, and ambition as a guarantee that they can never in some retrograde way challenge the new neoliberal order and try to install themselves as populists and power brokers. The problem for now is that the characteristics prized by the plutocrat elites are clearly seen as character flaws by the masses, impossible to mask hypocrisy and opportunism, if not an uncommon stupidity. The prime examples, Scholz, Trudeau, Harris are cringe worthy.
Trump is upsetting many decades of Atlanticist, Wall St., Deep State work that was considered finished. Trump is somewhat like Julius Caesar, a traditional character on the edge of a historical transition in the west. He himself won't become a dictator but one way or another he will likely usher in one. The seeming impossibility to find mediocrities that can fool the masses (magical mediocrities that connote authenticity and self actualization) will force the inverted dictatorship that we now have to be turned right side up once and for all. Either that or someone stronger than Trump with a better constituted populist mandate will re-establish state power in the way Augustus did after Caesar to counter the neo-liberal, neo-feudal slide to oligarchy. Whichever way it goes, it won’t be democracy. MAGA YAGA GAGA
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Sep 7 2024 22:27 utc | 88
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:13 utc | 82
I did say "That said, Rome's civil wars and the installation of the Principate is not 21st century USA."
Useful to think with not a naive comparison... I didn't want to bore the room but the parallels are far greater than your assumption of my naivety suggests.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 22:28 utc | 89
I think that by November there may be many more wanting to see the change that the Red/Blue teams are not offering and vote for Jill Stein...at least that is my hope for America.
I continue to laugh about the Cheney endorsement of Harris. Maybe Harris should dump Walz and have Cheney be her running mate....grin
The Hollywood shit show continues until it doesn't and such entertainment of fecal matter we are watching....hope we learn what we don't want going forward from this shit show.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Sep 7 2024 21:07 utc | 70
With no base in the working class, even if Jill won, the state would chew her to bits and spit her out very quickly. She won't win and if she did it would be an abortion. Only a candidate that has built and sits stop a mass working class base that is anti war, anti billionaire and dare I say, at least, anticapitalist, can go toe to toe with the billionaire oligarchs of the US and their state.
Anything less will be crushed or coopted by the existing state of the ruling class.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:30 utc | 90
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:13 utc | 82
I did say "That said, Rome's civil wars and the installation of the Principate is not 21st century USA."
Useful to think with not a naive comparison... I didn't want to bore the room but the parallels are far greater than your assumption of my naivety suggests.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 22:28 utc | 89
I know you're not naive, Pat. I actually love your contributions here. Who is even trying to think about the current situation in historical terms today?
Keep working, brother!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:32 utc | 91
@Paul from Norway | #73
https://theweek.com/articles/528827/rise-neocons
Posted by: Apollyon | Sep 7 2024 22:34 utc | 92
Laughable naiveness.
Posted by: Michael A | Sep 7 2024 19:59 utc | 64
...says the dildo referencing the masons in his analysis of what was a actual assassination attempt. You don't have to like the bastard to recognize that all the intelligence agencies in the US want him dead.
Now go vote for the lesser evil Kamala, Mikey!
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:37 utc | 93
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:13 utc | 82
whereas the civil wars in Rome resulted in a vitality and power that lasted hundreds of years.
This is simply not true. The idea that the Roman Empire settled down into a lasting, homogenous and static entity is rubbish and grievous oversimplification. The very consequences of empire which destroyed civic culture in the Mediterranean were doubled down. By 150AD the sources of surplus labour were exhuasted and the region pivoted slowly from a regime of taxation and state centralisation to rent and balkanisation. The histories you're reading (Romulus Augustulus? So 1950s...) need to be reassessed. Valentinian III's edict of April 444 marks the state's admission that it cannot afford to pay its army from taxation. From that point Rome becomes an idea destined to reside fully only in the ruins on the Janiculum or in the dreams of a return to Constantinople. The 'vitality and power' might justifiably be used of Trajan, perhaps of Hadrian, but even under the latter the 'ancient world' was rapidly vanishing. Read the work of Peter Brown and Chris Wickham, especially the latter's Land and Power.
My point was that the consequences of a world empire ultimately destroyed the unique civic polity which had brought the empire about. Empire was a necessary and fatal consequence, the solution to which was the abolition of Rome as a polis, a city-state, emblematised in Augustus. This was at least one of the parallels I was drawing.
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 22:39 utc | 94
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:13 utc | 82
All good, man, and I appreciate your contributions here too. I may spout some odd philosophical garbage from time to time, but I have been teaching and researching antiquity professionally for over 30 years. That doesn't make me right all the time, or even half the time, but it does mean that 9 times out of 10 I do at least know the texture of the ancient Mediterranean, the evidence and the scholarship in some detail. On the area of my actual research I usually keep quiet because the kind of bullshit written out there cannot possibly be countered by one person. Good to talk it through ✊
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 22:47 utc | 95
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Sep 7 2024 22:13 utc | 82
I think you would really get a kick from this:
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 22:49 utc | 97
My content posts have not been allowed today. Third try since a.m. with links washed.
Posted by: suzan | Sep 7 2024 22:52 utc | 98
In fact, if I had my professor's cap on, I'd set the reading @97 to all the barflies and ask we convene to discuss it and see whether it contained anything useful to help explain our current world situation.
But I'd never deign to condescend to such an erudite crowd 😉
Posted by: Patroklos | Sep 7 2024 22:54 utc | 99
Show me a trump rally crowd waveing the palistian flag.
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 7 2024 20:14 utc | 65
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You’ll see the occasional “palistian” flag at a Kneepads Harris rally … in the hands of someone protesting that gibbering moron. But only for the few seconds before her security goons get to the protester.
Posted by: malenkov | Sep 7 2024 22:56 utc | 100
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Sports fans have a term that's relevant here: "addition by subtraction". In this case one can argue that the GOP is better off without Cheney.
But ... A few days ago Alan Dershowitz left the Democratic party, so the conveyor belt of poop goes both ways.
I do wonder if any Blue Maga types have enough consciousness to recognize the problem with an endorsement from Cheney.
Posted by: Afro | Sep 7 2024 15:50 utc | 1