U.S. Government Selects New President For Venezuela
The clown show continues:
U.S. says Maduro lost Venezuelan election, calls for talks, transition - Washington Post
CARACAS, Venezuela — The United States on Thursday said opposition candidate Edmundo González defeated President Nicolás Maduro in Venezuela’s presidential election and called for negotiations to ensure a peaceful transition of power.Maduro claims that he won Sunday’s vote. The opposition, meanwhile, says that the government’s own records, as well as independent exit polls, indicate that González won twice as many as votes.
“Given the overwhelming evidence, it is clear to the United States and, most importantly, to the Venezuelan people that Edmundo González Urrutia won the most votes in Venezuela’s July 28 presidential election,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said in a statement Thursday evening.
Did anyone inform "President" Juan Guaido?
Posted by b on August 2, 2024 at 7:03 UTC | Permalink
next page »Maduro and a local having a friendly spar on the street.
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1819107011998486551
Apparently Musk challenged Maduro to a fight.
I see even Macgregor is in on the act when it comes to attacking Venezuela. Scum, all that crowd.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 7:21 utc | 2
Blinken is a malicious Zionist cretin. Unfortunately he is in a position to do much harm. If he ever faces a Nuremberg style judgment he will be hung. Until then we are all in danger.
Posted by: Nick | Aug 2 2024 7:24 utc | 3
Of course Guido came out supporting amerika's claim that the murderer & terrorist González had won the election on the day amerika made the ridiculous claim. He is too busy studying at uni in Miami to continue running Venezuela. Interesting that amerika doesn't hold Guido as the president of Venezuela responsible for the economic screw-up in the nation caused by sanctions the same as they claim Maduro is. . .
Also anyone else notice that the Carter Center, one of the first groups to have election observers anywhere, were invited and took part in overseeing this election and they gave it a clean bill of health pointing out that the dual system of having both voting machine counts & paper ballots counted as a fallback check was far superior to anything that any state in amerika utilized.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 2 2024 7:27 utc | 4
Our Democracy and the rules-based-order decides. If you don't elect our preferred candidate, you are an authoritarian dictatorship and literally Hitler. We begin bombing in five minutes.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 2 2024 7:40 utc | 5
Also anyone else notice that the Carter Center, one of the first groups to have election observers anywhere, were invited and took part in overseeing this election and they gave it a clean bill of health pointing out that the dual system of having both voting machine counts & paper ballots counted as a fallback check was far superior to anything that any state in amerika utilized.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 2 2024 7:27 utc | 4
Julian McFarlane posted similar on his subtrack day or so ago.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 2 2024 8:23 utc | 7
This was all made up from the beginning, and it‘s at least the third time they are trying to pull this off. But Venezuela is prepared and will weather the storm. Zero chance for regime change.
Posted by: Komarov | Aug 2 2024 8:23 utc | 8
I read a report yesterday of the Venezuelan election put out by the group of invited election observers, a number of assorted election monitors which gave it a clean bill of health, including the statement about the dual count system, but I cannot for the life of me remember where I got the link to it from, yet just now when I went to the Carter Center website I see the worm has turned. They now claim they found the election wanting and regurgitate a list of niggly little nitpicking details none of which could have had an effect on the final outcome in sufficient numbers to alter it.
It seems that the Carter Center has been arm-twisted into the anti-Venezuela propaganda - what a surprise.
What is more interesting is that try as I might I could not access the Venezuelan National Electoral Council (CNE) at cne.gov.ve I tried it using a vpn located in Russia, although it is prolly a dodgy vpn being 'western'), so the next thing was to find the IP addy 190.9.130.14 because it appeared to be a IP Server issue, but that too was blocked.
The next step would be to reboot my system & load a more shall we say neutral vpn, I don't wanna do that as all my browsing history is deleted on reboot tho I may try later. Unfortunately there is a problem with kicking up a different vpn on windoze.
Anyway I don't believe it is paranoid of me to surmise that the CNE site has been blocked (cannot even ping it) in order to prevent us who question misinformation from gaining the access we want, to show that this election was indeed above board.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 2 2024 8:24 utc | 9
It's interesting how the US always knows what happens in other countries' elections, and the "real" results, but can't manage its own elections and has a political system which no longer bears any resemblance to democracy in substance, and ever less so in form.
It's also interesting how the US allows itself, and is allowed, to openly choose other countries' leaders, and to assassinate them if other "democratic' US methods don't succeed.
The Grotesque States of America, as someone called it, is blind to how grotesque it has become and how much revulsion it is generating, which is systematically pushing it into irrelevance.
As for Venezuela, it is not going to allow another Guido cycle to hinder its path forward.
"Tensions that emerged on Sunday and continued on Monday and Tuesday, are now under control, and this control will become stricter day by day in order to ensure [the country’s] peace, prosperity and production," Maduro said.
"We have arrested over 1,200 criminals and are now searching for another 1,000, who will also be arrested," the president continued, adding that those individuals "underwent training in Texas, US, as well as in Colombia, Peru and Chile," and his government has video footage of these training sessions to prove it.
He also said that "the criminals set over 300 police stations on fire." In his words, around 80% of rioters were under the influence of drugs or alcohol.
"We are catching them, one by one, and there will be no mercy," Maduro said, announcing that two maximum security prisons will be put into operation about two weeks later. "All criminals will go to maximum security prisons."
https://tass.com/world/1824421
Posted by: JB | Aug 2 2024 8:31 utc | 10
Posted by: Engineer-John | Aug 2 2024 7:09 utc | 1
Not just an oil-rich state, Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves!
Posted by: C Khosta y Alzamendi | Aug 2 2024 8:42 utc | 11
Add in telling the Georgians off.
The Armenians to buy Azerbaijani gas and oil.
Loosing the run of themselves.
Posted by: jpc | Aug 2 2024 8:45 utc | 12
Debsisdead @4
Actually the Carter Center did not certify this election. It is true that the Center certified the previous election and favorably referred to the dual ballot feature you mention. For this election the Center is critical because of the presence of peace keeping forces at some considerable distance from polling places and because the vote total released was for the whole election, rather than via precinct by precinct totals. The Center’s 17 observers did comment favorably on the orderliness of the voting process at the polling places they visited and also on the evident enthusiasm of the people voting. The Center also raised a criticism over their observation that the incumbent party seemed better funded and organized during the campaign period. You can find the Center’s preliminary statement, which the AP has reported on, via google.
However, the Center does not mention that shortly after the election, the election authorities were hit by concerted cyberattacks originating in Europe which have delayed the final vote tally and release of individual polling place tallies. Today’s Counterpunch has a story about those attacks. Prior to the cyber attacks, 80% of the vote was electronically tabulated and verified via paper vote check, as reported in the story. The 80% total is sufficient to call the election mathematically, given the margin. The other 20% of the vote are marred ballots, ballots where the intention is not immediately clear, etc., . Counterpunch had an earlier story a few days ago by an invited international poll watcher who wrote that the process was flawless at the one polling place at which he spent the entire day…
Posted by: mjh | Aug 2 2024 8:49 utc | 13
It's amazing how well the US can count votes in other countries, yet they themselves have opaque voting systems susceptible to corruption and last minute boxes of votes found hidden corners.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 2 2024 8:55 utc | 14
I know that BRICS+ is not a military alliance, but surely there would be solidarity between members to a certain degree when another member is threatened by the Outlaw US Empire (thanks Karl). I think Venezuela has officially applied for membership but they need to fast track it, along with, at least, Nicaragua and Cuba. Military agreements might flow from that eventually, hopefully driving a stake into the heart of the Monroe Doctrine, which is long overdue.
Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 2 2024 9:15 utc | 15
Posted by: Engineer-John | Aug 2 2024 7:09 utc | 1
Not just an oil-rich state, Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves!
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Yes, but its heavy, sour crude, the hardest to extract, and needs heavy refining facility, which not all countries have.
Posted by: Rain | Aug 2 2024 9:22 utc | 16
The USA only accepts election results if it's paid lackies win.
Posted by: Menz | Aug 2 2024 9:23 utc | 17
re mjh | Aug 2 2024 8:49 utc | 12
I became aware of this after I made the post & posted a lengthy piece, since disappeared into the void pointing out the Carter Center's mealy mouthed after the fact refutation of all they said in Venezuela after they had been arm twisted into complying with the disinfo but it appears to have disappeared into the void. Maybe b. will find it in the blog provider's 'spam filter'.
It included some facts about the impossibility of accessing the Venezuelan Electoral Commission (CNV) at www.cne.gov.ve or IP addy 190.8.130.14 even using an allegedly Russian vpn server. Maybe they close their website 'after hours' even though that would be a unique occurrence it is one that my net provider would likely go for.
Natch this is prolly to ensure no one can grok the good oil on how the election really played out. Can't have anyone listening to actual facts about the honesty of Venezuela's electoral system before the colour revolution (which incidentally is certain to fail).
Bolton musta taken a gig with the dims eh. They are currently providing the superior neocon service to the war mongering MIC profiteers.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 2 2024 9:25 utc | 18
Yes, Juan Guaido is the democratically elected leader of Venezuela.
And I’m the Olympic women’s heavyweight boxing champion.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 2 2024 9:33 utc | 19
At what point does the War Party in Washington become a laughing stock ?
Posted by: Exile | Aug 2 2024 9:35 utc | 20
My take on the election
https://newantarctica.com/2024/07/31/the-ongoing-tragedy-for-venezuela/
As already explained the detailed tallies are the only valid critic (and Brazil, Mexico and Colombia ) have already asked for them.
Biden said to Lula he’d wait, but state jumped the gun
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 10:11 utc | 22
Incidentally here is Alan Mcleod's article on the facts of the Venezuelan election's veracity. However I cannot remember the original article I read on the Carter Center's announced take on the election before they were got to (Don't get old. As well as having to cope with memory loss my quack told me a week ago that the back problem I have been suffering is due to osteoporosis [3 fractured vertebrae] & is itself the result of a misspent youth. Ah so payback is a bitch, heheheh they were good times).
Anyway it is apparent to anyone who chooses to dig deep enough that this same old, same old fracas is just more of the same failed amerikan imperialism.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 2 2024 10:33 utc | 23
Michael Hudson and Jill Stein explain the US path to war with Iran.
It looks like it is going to happen before November.
Posted by: Kauai John | Aug 2 2024 10:35 utc | 24
The Postil
Venezuela
It has to be said that there is nothing that unites the various warring factions of the United States of America faster than hatred for President Maduro of Venezuela. Finally, Antony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, Samantha Power, et al. can happily shake hands with Elon Musk, Alex Jones, the MAGA crowd, the GOP and even the libertarians (via their man Milei). What are we to make of all this braying comradery of neocons, neolibs, conservatives, “patriots,” and others?
Alan Macleod takes a detailed look at the many bits of “evidence” being thrown about to “prove” that Maduro “stole” the elections. It doesn’t look good for Musk and his friends, especially since there were American observers of the elections, on the ground, and none of them raised the alarm and then endorsed the results as fair. Funny… no one mentions the various sanctions in place on Venezuela, since 2006, and that $15 million bounty on President Maduro’s head, placed there by Sheriff America.
https://www.thepostil.com/the-color-revolution-in-venezuela/
Leonid Savin was also in Venezuela, observing the elections and saw nothing untoward—just people having a normal day at the poles and standing behind the leader that they prefer. But America is not happy. And if America is not happy, there are consequences… aka, a color revolution.
https://www.thepostil.com/venezuela-presidential-election-nicolas-maduro-wins/
Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 2 2024 10:42 utc | 25
They have become so used to declaring winners in elections across the third world for so long now that it’s standard PR practice - since most western press attention used to be missing from these areas it always worked unless the population who had voted knew that their votes had been usurped and stormed the palaces.
Where strangely garbed men in masks and special trained military with their US type dark glasses and stances tried to get away with the fake results often shooting unarmed civilians who protested.
Failing a lot more now days.
They even had to bring such methods home in recent years to stop actual popular local politicians being elected in the Collective Waste. The fake Democracy by Media declaration era is over now - as it will soon be in the US where the Media used to declare the result to an easily led by the nose public. They won’t be able to do that THIS time as all the eyeballs are on it. Especially in the areas which had mysterious results last time.
Actual reports from independents in Venezuela show the real majority’s opinion. The paid mysterious thugs on motorcycles - moving a dead body from one part to another for a photo; paid actors who lay down and pretend to be dead to mysteriously then be driven away after the photos and some broadcasts by ex plotters in the US in their fake uniform pretending to be serving officers still in the country calling for a Junta!
Is all highly comical.
Apparently US Indy blogger Hinckle has gone there and has been put to n a death list as armed gangs on motorcycles try and track him down at various hotels - it just goes to show the place is not a police state and is not buckling under the pressure.
Meanwhile Argentina Cry’s as their goofy ziofascist banker looted all the gold reserves!
And the goofiest plonker ziowunnderkid Saffy rebirthhered as US Hollywood super hero iron man rocket ship explorer and first king of Mars Elon makes a stink with interfering in Venezuelan elections - what no one objects? Is it cause he isn’t a Nation State? He does behave like one - he represents Mars. His whole planet! And he intends to own Earth too.
Starting with accepting Maduros boxing challenge.
The clown show goes on with the Mars Attacks joke fest.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 2 2024 10:56 utc | 26
Juan-Guano de Guarimba of Immoladores Popular, is he still pleading poverty?
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 2 2024 11:02 utc | 27
"Yes, Juan Guaido is the democratically elected leader of Venezuela.
And I’m the Olympic women’s heavyweight boxing champion."
Posted by: Lev Dumbovich | Aug 2 2024 9:33 utc | 18
I don't know about that; yet you certainly are a 'Karen'
"Posted by: Engineer-John | Aug 2 2024 7:09 utc | 1
Not just an oil-rich state, Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserves!
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Yes, but its heavy, sour crude, the hardest to extract, and needs heavy refining facility, which not all countries have."
Posted by: Rain | Aug 2 2024 9:22 utc | 15
Venezuela 'tar sand', jut like Canada's are subpar sour crude oil as well-you are 100% right on
Maduro and others said the election dept CNE was hacked on sunday nite. The site is still down see http://www.cne.gov.ve/ and so are every other govt site I have tried the last few days.
What's odd is that I have not seen VE govt people in the "media" saying this week all their websites are down, especially the National Electoral Council (CNE) - could their IT systems be down completely? It seems really odd the opposition has 80% of the Actas results posted up on that website, but the VE govt has none/or cannot say they do, or present that information themselves.
Could their entire IT systems be down across the Govt? If so why not say so? Very odd situation.
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recently 4 hours ago this was posted
- In the past few hours, some netizens have reported that the Foro de São Paulo (São Paulo Forum) website was taken down (DDoS) by a group of hackers protesting against the authoritarian advances of Nicolás Maduro's Venezuelan regime. They are responsible for taking down over 200 Venezuelan government websites, as well as the websites of neighboring politicians who support Maduro's government.
t.me/tupireport/18611
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It was Sunday nite the election body said they couldn't provide the usual details of the votes. They only gave the total results, with 80% counted.
But the opposition somehow obtained 80% of all results including individual polling booth "Actas" scrutiny records. and have publsihed that on this website here see https://resultadosconvzla.com/
if you use the Blue icons you can get through each state, and electorate, to polling stations into the Actas (records) produced by each machine and signed by the staff.
Mesas Totales = Total Tables
Mesas Transmitidas = Tables Transmitted
Electores = Voters
Resultados - Mesa = Results - Table
Actas digitalizadas: 24.576 (81,85%). = Digitized records: 24,576 (81.85%)
see eventually a Green Icon middle of page that shows Image of the printed results >
acta de escrutinio = scrutiny record
Keep in mind 20% of polling station results are missing on that opposition website.
posted on Monday - Directorio Legislativo is a civil society organization based in Argentina and the United States
Amidst complaints of irregularities by the opposition and doubts from the international community, with 80% of the votes counted, the National Electoral Council (CNE in Spanish) proclaimed Nicolás Maduro as the elected president of Venezuela for the 2025-2031 term. According to the CNE, Maduro, leader of the Gran Polo Patriótico coalition, secured 51.2% of the valid votes, while Edmundo González, representing the opposition Plataforma Unitaria Democrática (PUD in Spanish), received 44.2%.
The delay in announcing the results and significant discrepancies with the data shared by the opposition on social media have triggered widespread protests, with allegations of potential fraud against the ruling government.
https://directoriolegislativo.org/en/general-elections-in-venezuela-cne-declares-maduro-president-amid-transparency-concerns/
Venezuela: As US Leaders Call Fraud, US Observers Endorse Results
July 30, 2024
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/07/30/venezuela-as-us-leaders-call-fraud-us-observers-endorse-results/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ba8c0ff8-54f9-4723-aaca-74aeafe83ada
Posted by: Fred | Aug 2 2024 11:16 utc | 31
Colombia, Brazil and Mexico are beginning to loose patience with Maduro 🇻🇪. In their latest joint statement they demand that the CNE puts forward all the data promptly.
https://t.me/s/CIG_telegram/51030
Posted by: Fred | Aug 2 2024 11:25 utc | 32
I am pleasantly suprised that the administration that stole the 2020 election are making Maduro answer for the same kind of cheating they did.
Posted by: Fortuna | Aug 2 2024 11:28 utc | 33
Yes, but its heavy, sour crude, the hardest to extract, and needs heavy refining facility, which not all countries have.
Posted by: Rain |
Wow. How knowledgeable!
Any idea which one does, Koch sucker?
Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 2 2024 11:29 utc | 34
I don't know about that; yet you certainly are a 'Karen'
Posted by: canuck | Aug 2 2024 11:09 utc | 27
Ouch. The biggest dunce on this board sounds a little sore about Maduro winning the election.
Oh that’s right, you’re man Trump failed to oust Maduro with the Bay of Piglets fiasco. Probably the most farcical coup ever attempted by the US imperialists.
You keep cheering on the imperialists Canuck. Repeating Trump tropes about the inferiority of Venezuelan oil. If it’s so bad, why is he a the imperialists that you cheer for so desperate to get their hands on it?
And if you’re cheering imperialists against Maduro and Venezuela then you’re on the imperialist side who are genociding the Palestinians, and supplying weapons and billions in funding to the fascist junta in Kiev. I.e you’re not a Karen, you’re an imperialist, warmongering scumbag.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 2 2024 11:51 utc | 35
Most of America’s refineries are tooled for heavy sour crude, coincidentally
Posted by: will moon | Aug 2 2024 11:53 utc | 36
I don't know about that; yet you certainly are a 'Karen'
Posted by: canuck | Aug 2 2024 11:09 utc | 27
Repeat after me. i'm a trudodean musk melon. Just because u can say it latin doesnt make it false
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 2 2024 11:56 utc | 37
If it’s so bad, why is he a the imperialists that you cheer for so desperate to get their hands on it?
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 2 2024 11:51 utc | 34
Once the us goes fortess america and becomes even more insular it will need it, as anything NOT located in the america's wont b easy pickins. Its not a trump trope. venezuela' oil like canadas tar sands need a more rigourous refining method. As said above there are merican refineries capable of such processes.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 2 2024 12:12 utc | 38
I thought the US is having to import heavy crude (mostly from Russia) to make
diesel and jet fuel, most US production is too light for that purpose. Taking
over Venezuela would currently be quite handy. I remember an American comedian's comment when we took over Iraq's oil "what I don't understand is what our oil is doing underneath their sand"?
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 2 2024 12:18 utc | 39
If I were Maduro, I’d call up Kim Yong Un and ask him to send 20,000 Security Forces to protect the Governance Offices and sites, will freeing my police officers and army to make arrests and shut down NGO sites.
Kinda like Russia did in Kazakhstan during that nonsense.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 2 2024 12:43 utc | 40
Re Venezualas tar sands deposits , I recall reading that back in Chavez' time, once the price of oil exceeded $30 pb it becomes profitable to extract and Venezuela becomes the controlling producer in OPEC having the largest reserves.
Iirc there were all sorts of price manipulations in the 2000s and the attempted coup of Chavez in order to stop this from happening.
The sanctions and seizing of Venezuelas state owned oil company assets were put in place to prevent any future risk of a Chavista govt taking advantage of this.
Posted by: Pete M | Aug 2 2024 12:58 utc | 41
I mentioned this a couple days ago, but apparently my post was taken down. 1. Independent observers have said that the election was fair. 2. Pompeous recently proclaimed that the murikan sanctions against Venezuela, beginning with O'Bomber in 2015, were specifically designed to cause maximum pain to the people of Venezuela. Kind of reminiscent of Nixon and Kissinger "making the economy scream" in Chile. 3. there is a group called the Lima Group which was organized by the ukrainian neo-nazi in Canada, Crista Freedland which has the avowed purpose of eliminating Maduro. Signers of this appalling document include Chile, Peru (currently with a CIA installed dictator) Argentina, Ecuador, and Colombia. These are the countries which have toed the murikan line by not recognizing the election of Maduro. Interesting, the coup against Morales in Bolivia was organized by ukrainian neo-nazis resident in the country.
Today I read that, according to Maduro, Edmundo Gonzalez is "a CIA agent linked to the killing of religious figures in El Salvador in the 1980s." This should be looked into. If true, the slimy bastard killed some of my friends.
Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Aug 2 2024 13:16 utc | 42
As a Brazilian I'm deeply ashamed that a BRICS founder is reduced to a mere USA mongrel, helping a USA coup d'etat on the last bastion in South America against the Empire.
Lula is showing he is more of the same USA-backed rabble, just as Bolsonaro
Posted by: Concerned Brazilian | Aug 2 2024 13:24 utc | 43
The Venezualan army is key to this. If they turn, all bets are off.
At the moment theyre supporting maduro.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 2 2024 13:32 utc | 44
As a Brazilian I'm deeply ashamed that a BRICS founder is reduced to a mere USA mongrel, helping a USA coup d'etat on the last bastion in South America against the Empire.
Lula is showing he is more of the same USA-backed rabble, just as Bolsonaro
Posted by: Concerned Brazilian | Aug 2 2024 13:24 utc | 41
Don't think we're reading the same news.
Amorim just stated that the opposition has no evidence of fraud.
PT accepted and congratulated.
Lula himself said "nothing special, if anything should be decided by courts"
Lula himself put Colombia and Mexico on a "wait and see" (and even binded Biden, but not his crew, to the same)
He's resisting internal and external pressure.
Care to explain your assessment?
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 13:35 utc | 45
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 13:35 utc | 43
What's with Mexico and especially Colombia? Gustavo Pedro won't get any good will towards his government, however hard he may try to grovel. And in this issue - if the incoming info is correct - he does grovel, instead of backing the beleaguered Bolivarian republic.
Do the leftists in Mexico and Colombia honestly believe that it is all rosy and nice in the US-controlled "liberal democracies"?
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 2 2024 13:52 utc | 47
Why should Venezuela care what the US thinks - just send the loser to the southern border .
Posted by: Cheryl | Aug 2 2024 14:05 utc | 48
Did anyone inform "President" Juan Guaido?
Guaido is the one that Gonzalez got more votes than.
Posted by: Honzo | Aug 2 2024 14:25 utc | 49
The absolute necessity of correcting the results of the Venezuelan election will justify the abandonment of Ukraine and perhaps even Israel. Both are lost causes, but Venezuela has not yet been proven to be. Trump, Harris, RFK jr, Vance, whoever, the Fortress America project is going into high gear. If the 'opposition' is able to mount a Maidan, the US will send troops to protect democracy, and the Bolivarians will be facing a protracted guerrilla campaign while the country is looted. That counts as a 'win' these days in the US.
Posted by: Honzo | Aug 2 2024 14:36 utc | 50
What's with Mexico and especially Colombia? Gustavo Pedro won't get any good will towards his government, however hard he may try to grovel. And in this issue - if the incoming info is correct - he does grovel, instead of backing the beleaguered Bolivarian republic.
Do the leftists in Mexico and Colombia honestly believe that it is all rosy and nice in the US-controlled "liberal democracies"?
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 2 2024 13:52 utc | 45
The venezuelan voting system is one of the best in the world (fraud-proofed).
I think they believe maduro wasn't stupid enough to go for a outright lie and that he did win.
So the best "keep out" sign is to get the systems up and show that the psyop was just a colour revolution.
my 2 cents
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 14:36 utc | 51
The Global Majority--the grouping of peoples that actually matter--have already declared the elections clean and Maduro the winner. The Outlaw US Empire's verbosity doesn't matter any longer as it will say just about anything as what's promoted as policy becomes ever more inane as this article shows very well.
This is OT but will be of interest to those who follow scientific and tech advances, "Chinese scientists develop materials allowing all-solid-state lithium batteries to maintain 80% of initial capacity after 5,000 cycles of usage".
Dun Groanin'@25 mentions Jackson Hinkle as an "indy blogger." But as I understand it, Hinkle is a cofounder of the very recently formed American Communist Party, along with Haz al-Din of the Infrared you tube collective, the Midwestern Marx Institute and a number of CPUSA members expelled (or withdrawn in outrage) over the way the CPUSA national convention rammed through a resolution on supporting the Democrats, regardless.
One of the weights on the Venezuelan economy is the promotion of the material interests of the upper layers of the military officer corps. They are perhaps the largest parts of the so-called boliburguesia. The costs of this have been a serious drain on the fiscal resources of the Bolivarian state. Personally I hesitate to prescribe the single road to socialism for other countries. But the Allende strategy of ignoring the armed forces and trying to outflank the officer corps by purely political means of popular mobilization doesn't seem like a winner to me.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 2 2024 14:46 utc | 53
Misinformation is rampant
https://www.as-coa.org/articles/how-have-international-leaders-responded-venezuelas-2024-election
Posted by: Zargo | Aug 2 2024 14:57 utc | 54
Yes, but its heavy, sour crude, the hardest to extract, and needs heavy refining facility, which not all countries have."
Posted by: Rain | Aug 2 2024 9:22 utc | 15
Venezuela 'tar sand', jut like Canada's are subpar sour crude oil as well-you are 100% right on
Posted by: canuck | Aug
Two Petrolls sitting in a tree naked as jay birds.
Not worth a moment of attention and this will be their last from me.
Planet killing fucks.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 2 2024 14:58 utc | 55
Venezuela should say that they don't recognize Biden as President, that the elections were rigged, and wait for a peaceful transition to Trump's administration...
But, in fact, nothing changed in USA. Trump attempted a coup in Venezuela. Biden is attempting a coup in Venezuela. Obama and Bush did the same. And Kamala or Trump again, will do it again.
Why? Because USA is not a democracy. It is a genocidal naZionist empire controlled by a fascist oligarchy. The people that vote in such a system, instead of changing the regime, are part of the problem. Yes, they are brainwashed by the regime's propaganda (CNN, FOX, etc), but if I know the truth, then they should all be able to know the truth.
Now, as for the clown show in Caracas, why is the fascist corrupt opposition demanding that Maduro give up his Presidency? Isn't Guaidó the "legitimate" President? Then just make an event where Guaidó accepts to give up the Presidency to whoever is the new Guaidó. That would be such an entertaining clown show!
Posted by: Carlos Marques | Aug 2 2024 15:05 utc | 56
I think the BRICS should also protect themselves against these eventualities.
If not Russia (at this time ...) but China and Kim's NK should intervene with men and means heavily, also to give a warning to the USA.
Tell them that certain coups will no longer be allowed.
I think we should reach an agreement with Maduro on this.
If we do not give the USA a stop to certain behaviors, it will never end.
And this is no longer tolerable.
Posted by: kamma43muri | Aug 2 2024 15:07 utc | 57
thanks b... i don't understand this craziness...
@ Lev Davidovich | Aug 2 2024 9:33 utc | 18
perhaps it is best to approach it all with humour in light of the craziness.. thanks.
Posted by: james | Aug 2 2024 15:10 utc | 58
@ Don Firineach | Aug 2 2024 10:42 utc | 25
thanks for the links don..
Posted by: james | Aug 2 2024 15:22 utc | 59
I think the BRICS should also protect themselves against these eventualities.
If not Russia (at this time ...) but China and Kim's NK should intervene with men and means heavily, also to give a warning to the USA.
Tell them that certain coups will no longer be allowed.
I think we should reach an agreement with Maduro on this.
If we do not give the USA a stop to certain behaviors, it will never end.
And this is no longer tolerable.
Posted by: kamma43muri | Aug 2 2024 15:07 utc | 57
Most of the tax-havens, particularly british ones, are well within strike distance from Venezuela.
That should make the UK very interested in keeping the US within reasonable limits.
Anyone knows what RF dropped as good will gifts when its navy last made a port call some weeks ago?
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 15:23 utc | 60
karlof1 | Aug 2 2024 14:43 utc | 52
Battery tech is advancing fast. Being low on natural energy sources, China does appear to be putting a lot of effort in getting to the best possible energy self sufficiency. There is also the very high population density which makes it importent to have very clean transportation and so forth, especially in the city areas.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 15:30 utc | 61
Honzo | Aug 2 2024 14:36 utc | 50
Fortress America is a good term for the way the US is heading.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 15:31 utc | 62
Debsisdead@2027
Thanks for the info and insights. The quantity of stenches emanating from the Di$trict of Corruption and the Zionist controlled mass media of misinformation is a factor which necessitates observations such as the one you provided.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 15:36 utc | 63
Venezuelan oil and the Persian gulf.
With the first barrels of oil coming through the Trans Alaska pipeline, US attained near self sufficiency in oil. With that it could use the Iranian revolution to drive oil prices sky high, and with Saudi's doing the deal to sell only in US dollars, the world needed a lot more US dollars.
If the US can secure Venezuelan oil then it will be little affected by world oil prices.
For the US the main thing is controlling the Persian gulf oil, Plus they are fairly unanimous in wanting to attack Iran.
If that is the case, the Americans will be going all out to take possession of Venezuelan oil which is far more dangerous than the US simply wanting to oust the socialist government from its 'back yard'. Part of the great game rather than just a local affair.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 15:41 utc | 64
It is imperative that the Venezuelan republic survives this new attack. It is rather disappointing to see countries and leaders that should have known better to demand transparency as if the decades long campaign of subversion by the all-powerful Anglo-American empire is irrelevant to the developments in that country.
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 2 2024 15:46 utc | 65
neofeudal@855
Yes, the virulent hypocrisy of the ruling elite and their governmental minions here in our ruptured republic, never cease to amaze me for that hypocrisy attended also by their unreal level of chutzpah. One wonders how that chutzpah factor enters into the equation. Could it possibly be from those who seek to rule this country in spite of the will of the informed public? Is it even conceivable that U$ governance has mutated into rule by a self-chosen minority?
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 15:46 utc | 66
To prevent additional confusion in election results, the US State Department will soon publish the list of winners in all future national elections.
Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 2 2024 15:50 utc | 67
Speaking of elections, the US needs UN observers like they do for others.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 2 2024 15:51 utc | 68
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 15:41 utc | 64
It sure seems more than a coincidence that the few governments that resist the imperial regime in the region are all leftist/socialist.
Even the Salvadoran Bukele has signed on the imperial bandwagon, despite the tribulations of his country which were caused by the US of A and its compradores. It goes without saying that Bukele is a fairly recent "convert" to "conservatism" (as if his previous party, the FMLN, was some sort of liberal outfit) and has been touted by the Trumpist Republicans.
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 2 2024 15:51 utc | 69
Yes, Juan Guaido is the democratically elected leader of Venezuela.
And I’m the Olympic women’s heavyweight boxing champion.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 2 2024 9:33 utc | 19
#############
In a tranny world anything is possible.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2024 15:55 utc | 70
Don Firineach@1042
Indeed fascinating that all the primary political factions in our ruptured republic are squawking in full choral mode over that most recent electoral defeat that the Oilygarchs suffered.
Looking at those Oilygarchs, we must focus on the Rottenfeller Crime Clan, still running the oil-patch show through various foundation and academic front organizations. Does anyone actually know who OWNS Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street? Uh, uh. That information is more closely guarded than the keys to Fort Knox and its alleged gold reserve.
Wall $treet is the primary U$$A fiefdom of the Rottenfellers. How come? Because that imperial crime clan just happens to own a 54% bloc of shares in the Feral Reserve Bank of New York.
Cue the movie musical "Damn Yankees" from ca 1958: "Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets. And little man, little Lola wants YOU"
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 15:59 utc | 71
Constantine | Aug 2 2024 15:51 utc | 69
Certainly all too willing to bow to the Hegemon rather than band together to fight it.
From what I understand, Venezuela has both ballot and electronic voting. My understanding, it could be wrong, is that people vote both electronically and again on paper. If that is the case, then the electronic voting would give a fast result, but then all the paper votes would have to be counted to double check the results.
Here in oz, its all paper. Usually one party or other declares victory when the majority of votes have been counted, but the election is officially over only once all votes have been counted. I think that is about the same everywhere.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 16:00 utc | 72
Can people imagine the chicanery that would exist in China if they didn't have a one-party state?
Very hard for the NED to create a test-tube globohomo candidate when they have to be a proven and committed Communist to have an opportunity to achieve leadership.
This is also the aversion to monarchy and a strong executive that has absolute control over any bureaucracy. No opportunities for electoral mischief.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2024 16:03 utc | 73
DunGroanin@1056
Interesting tidbit on one of the sites I visited this morning. Seems like some 14% of those nice illegal migrants have already been registered to vote. No specificity as to specific states of interest.
Needless to say, that Noo Yawk, Massathreefarts and Ill-Noise would be prime candied-dates, as their political machines are well oiled and highly functional. Concern areas would be Philadelphia, Detroit and Milwaukee, which may determine the outcome in those contested venues.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 16:07 utc | 75
I don't know about that; yet you certainly are a 'Karen'
Posted by: canuck | Aug 2 2024 11:09 utc | 27
"Ouch. The biggest dunce on this board sounds a little sore about Maduro winning the election.
Oh that’s right, you’re man Trump failed to oust Maduro with the Bay of Piglets fiasco. Probably the most farcical coup ever attempted by the US imperialists.
You keep cheering on the imperialists Canuck. Repeating Trump tropes about the inferiority of Venezuelan oil. If it’s so bad, why is he a the imperialists that you cheer for so desperate to get their hands on it?
And if you’re cheering imperialists against Maduro and Venezuela then you’re on the imperialist side who are genociding the Palestinians, and supplying weapons and billions in funding to the fascist junta in Kiev. I.e you’re not a Karen, you’re an imperialist, warmongering scumbag".
Posted by: Lev Dumbovich | Aug 2 2024 11:51 utc | 35
I'm with Maduro I never said I was not; however, you certainly confirmed your 'karenness'.
Have a good day.
Fred: Whatsa you problemo? Do you collect a paycheck for these postings? Whose side you on?
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 16:11 utc | 77
will moon @ 1153
Wondering whether China and Russia will establish a consortium to develop a refinery in Venezuela which will be specifically set up to process that sour, heavy oil. Such a move would be like whopping the current Capo of the Rottenfeller Crime Clan up side the head with a dead mackerel.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 16:15 utc | 78
Here are links to the two Counterpunch articles I mentioned above; these articles support the idea that the election was run fairly and openly
https://www.counterpunch.org/2024/08/02/venezuela-an-attempted-coup-by-any-other-name/
Posted by: mjh | Aug 2 2024 16:21 utc | 79
Hermius@1332
Presumably, Maduro's administration has taken measures to prevent the situation which was promulgated by Obaminable when he squatted in the Orville Orfice and promptly removed the four and three-star generals and admirals who were not online with the agenda and its narrative.
Obaninable was not the least bit concerned about the color of the skin of those rankers. His main consideration was the color of their noses.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 16:23 utc | 80
I believed they conferred the title of "Acting President" on Juan Guaidó
Then, taking things more literally, they used an actual actor for the president of Ukraine.
Guaidó has, as has the US, recognized Edmundo González as the winner of the election.
Then we have the Wapo:
"U.S. says Maduro lost Venezuelan election, calls for talks, transition"
Imagine the sputtering if Russia (or China) had imperiously announced
"Russia says Biden lost American election, calls for talks, transition"
Posted by: billb | Aug 2 2024 16:24 utc | 81
Anyone knows what RF dropped as good will gifts when its navy last made a port call some weeks ago?
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 15:23 utc | 60
As the U.S. will deploy new missiles in Germany, it would only be fair if Russia were to deploy some missiles with "special warheads" in Cuba and Venezuela in return.
Russia should also reactivate the SIGINT complex at Lourdes, Cuba.
Posted by: jure | Aug 2 2024 16:26 utc | 82
Honzo@1436
That horrific scenario you expose could readily be addressed by a Russian and Chinese countervail. They could mimic the tactic used during the Eisenhower redundancy, by sending military missions to Venezuela as "advisers", as the traitor Ike (a Bernard Baruch "creation") did in Vietnam.
JFK was on the brink of recalling those mostly CIA "advisers"...and look at what happened to him. The owners of the WarDefense Industry and of Big Oil came down on him like a shitstorm of bullets.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 16:30 utc | 83
mjh @13: "The Center also raised a criticism over their observation that the incumbent party seemed better funded and organized during the campaign period."
What? The US State Department having cash flow problems? Their "diverse" staff have difficulties organizing a basic fake election campaign?
My, how the mighty have fallen. It's end times for Empire.
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 2 2024 16:30 utc | 84
Heavy crude vs fracked condensate… which would you choose to refine into diesel and fuel oil? Which would make the better chemical feedstock?
Nothing wrong with Venezuela’s hydrocarbon reserves.
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 2 2024 16:43 utc | 85
Canuck@1606
Thanks. Doing my damndest to enhance my sense of humor and employment of irony. What else can we do to inject some positivity into the international shitshow which is being constantly and consistently perpetrated by the ruling elite.
It has pleased me no end to take a humorous approach whenever possible. Finally, it dawned on me that such an approach could be a helluva lot of fun...as against the constant seriousity which has all too long been my wont. Now just a few weeks from achieving the status of Octogenarian, Bob Dylan's lyrics come to mind: "He not busy being born is busy dying."
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 16:43 utc | 86
Posted by: canuck | Aug 2 2024 16:10 utc | 76
The trudodean musk melon wants to have and eat its cake. No surprises here. Is there a latin word for hypocrisy? How bout clown?
Posted by: Tannenenhouser | Aug 2 2024 16:45 utc | 87
William Gruff@1630
Hey! That was good. Has Billygoat Gruff transformed and reformed into some nice cutting, biting humor? Pharmacists discovered decades ago that pills are far more digestible with a bit of sugar-coating. Serious subjects can get a bit wearing. So lighter approaches can actually induce levels of relative enlightenment by the viewer. Good on you.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 2 2024 16:50 utc | 88
Let’s have a metaphor competition. Look at the following clip from ‘Force 10 from Navarone’, what situation might this possibly resemble? Bonus points for linking posters to the actors shown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGM-0wJI1X4
Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 17:04 utc | 89
Oops, posted now on the Ukraine thread! I’ll blame my wife, lack of ability in task stacking whilst listening to the Dandy Warhols!
Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 17:07 utc | 90
Oops, posted now on the Ukraine thread! I’ll blame my wife, lack of ability in task stacking whilst listening to the Dandy Warhols!
Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 17:07 utc | 90
Just came to check I had seen a double post from someone I didn't expect.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 17:12 utc | 91
"Oil! Oil! Oil! Give me your oil, you damned socialists!"
Every US statement about that country is supposed to be automatically converted in my brain into the above statement.
I believe that the best and highest path of progress for that country is to thoroughly ignore what the US says.
Listening to American Authority's bullshit rots the brain.
It amazes me that there are still low-lifes on this planet who still don't understand what happened to countries that listened to US advice, look at Ukraine and Israel.
May those involved in US imperialism die quickly.
It is for the good of the world.
Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 2 2024 17:28 utc | 92
"All criminals will go to maximum security prisons."
Castro got better results with firing squads. Also, they cost less over the long run.
Posted by: AllSeeingEye | Aug 2 2024 17:33 utc | 93
Just another sad example of Democracy being past its due-by date. By the end of this century there will be far fewer states pretending to practice it. What we are seeing in the strong BRICS nations is democracy on the lower levels with Strong Man Leaders at the top. During the post-war period the two-party 'democracy' model with regular elections has demonstrated it is good for fronting puppets but not authentic leaders, making our current leadership a Cryptocracy (hidden).
So it almost doesn't matter who in Venezuela, the message is the same: We the People can never be sure of what really happens because narrative has taken the place of Reality these days. How else can we explain American Evangelicals supporting the brazen barbarity in Gaza? Doing so requires a 'willing suspension' of basic human decency.
We only know our Rulers by their pronouns: 'They' & 'Them'. (At least with much-maligned monarchy you knew who was in charge and who to depose.)
Although the Empire's approach abroad is shamelessly aggressive, domestically the pervasive mentality is one of ignorance, albeit laced with shallow displays of passion, like the Twerking Black Girls at Kamala's first rally. Nobody is accountable for the ongoing cultural decline because those in charge are Invisibles and groups without leaders devolve into savagery.
Seems the contretemps in Venezuela is between a democratically elected leader - probably no angel himself - and Globalist Invisibles described as 'CIA' or 'US' but who are against all nation states including the US.
perhaps it is best to approach it all with humour in light of the craziness.. thanks.
Posted by: james | Aug 2 2024 15:10 utc | 58
Yes, although not everyone realised the initial comment is topical satire. One of the most cognitively challenged barflies needs a billboard sized sign to say “joke coming up ahead” and is so triggered he just reflexively spouts bile. Still, better than his copy and paste garbage and his imbecilic position of simultaneous support for both Trump and Maduro.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 2 2024 17:55 utc | 95
I hope Twitter / X will be blocked. Would be good if a decent alternative pops up. And while they're at it, Tesla, the riding spy device full of interior and exterior camera devices too as well as the US embassy which like any US embassy over the globe is a CIA nest.
Posted by: xor | Aug 2 2024 18:01 utc | 96
Posted by: mjh | Aug 2 2024 16:21 utc | 79
Thanks for the links. One who is vigilant to the tactics of the globalist empire is aware of its world-wide subterfuge tactics, but still it is a marvel to witness the depths of depravity that the neoliberal fascist vermin will sink.
Posted by: Constantine | Aug 2 2024 18:10 utc | 97
Sublime arrogance from the USA as usual.
They lost Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 so they feel they can casually help themselves to Venezuela 🇻🇪
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 2 2024 18:30 utc | 98
Well, we are all distracted, wanting us to look into the Trump assasination, the Kamala Coup, the Fico shooting, the recent coup attempt's in Venezuela, Turkmenistan New Caledonia, and Georgia and the war coming up in west asia.
Just look at the charade called the Olympics.
They (City of london) are flooding the information space with everything everywhere.
And i am certain that there are more to come. F..k them.
Posted by: Paul from Norway | Aug 2 2024 18:47 utc | 99
This article is for those who somehow (wrongly) believe Trump to be some sort of angel of peace:
Donald Trump 'considered invading Venezuela', reports say
US president briefed not to mention the topic at dinner with leaders from four Latin American allies – but he did so anyway
Posted by: jure | Aug 2 2024 19:18 utc | 100
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Another disgraceful attempt at regime change by the discredited empire of lies.
They never fail to shame themselves.
Hey - I just remembered.
Venezuela is an oil-rich state that doesn't lick Maerica's ass.
All is explained.
Posted by: Engineer-John | Aug 2 2024 7:09 utc | 1