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August 21, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: Western Media Dismiss Ukraine’s Kursk Offensive

Two weeks ago, when the Ukrainian army started its incursion into Russia's Kursk region, I had expected the Russia army to dispel the Ukrainians within a few days. That did not happen as it took time to bring enough troops towards that new frontline.

I also underestimated the size of the force the Ukrainians had made available for the operation. It is now estimated to be in the range of 10,000 to 30,000.

For now the Ukrainian army attack has mostly be stopped though it is still trying to expand what it holds in the very rural area.

Be that as it may – the operation, even when sustained longer, makes little sense.

It gives a temporary moral high to the Ukrainian army and may allow Zelenski and the British sponsors of this operation to prolong the war.

The plan in Kiev is not to negotiate but to prolong the war and to convince the west to further finance it. This would have the advantage of moving billions of additional dollar from western sources into the various pockets in Kiev with Zelenski and Yermak cashing in the largest share of it.

But all this comes at the cost of the Ukrainian defense in Donbas.

The Kursk incursion took so many troops from the defense of the Donbas that the front lines there can no longer be held up. It has also diverted scarce artillery ammunition which the Donbas defenders now lack. The Ukrainian defense in Donbas is currently crumbling with the Russian side taking several villages per day.

There was some hope expressed that Russia would divert troops from its Donbas attack towards Kursk. But the Kursk operation is on Russian ground where the Russian army is allowed to use conscript unit to defend the country. Conscripts are not allowed to take part in the operation within Ukraine. This gives the Russian army a large reserve that it can use against the incursion. It should be sufficient to end it.

Even at the beginning of the operation some supporters of Ukraine had feared that the incursion would break the Donbas defense:

Tatarigami_UA @Tatarigami_UA – 14:23 UTC · Aug 6, 2024

The situation in the Pokrovsk direction is critical, with defenses in several areas collapsed and yet to stabilize, largely due to a shortage of personnel. Diverting nearly a brigade to launch an assault on Kursk Oblast, which lacks strategic sense, borders on mental disability.

Various western oriented media have now taken a similar view:

After being initially heralded as a brilliant military stroke, the Kursk operation could end up becoming a trap for the Ukrainian Army, these analysts said.

Ultimately, the expansion of the war to new areas will, over time, favor the side with bigger resources, the analysts said. With triple the population and a larger industrial base, that side remains Russia.

One Ukrainian artillery brigade commander in eastern Ukraine told the Financial Times that part of the reason for the Russian advance was Kyiv moving its scarce resources north.

His troops were back to rationing shells for their canons — the first time since US aid to Ukraine was held up by Congress — because ammunition had been reallocated for the incursion into Russia’s Kursk region.

While Kyiv does not comment on casualties, the incursion has already come at a material cost: Ukraine lost at least 51 pieces of valuable military equipment, including German Marder vehicles, US-made Stryker vehicles and Himars rockets, compared to 27 such losses on the Russian side, according to the open-source intelligence researcher Naalsio.

"There is a risk of overextending, and there is a risk that precious personnel and resources may be lost and that Putin may use this as a pretext for further escalation," said Michael A. Witt, professor of international business and strategy at King's Business School, London.

Emil Kastehelmi, a military expert from the Finland-based open-source intelligence analysis firm Black Bird Group, said that the incursion risks attrition of Ukraine's precious reserves when it still has issues with manpower.

Hopes that Ukraine’s incursion into Russia would relieve pressure on the eastern front are not being realized as Moscow’s forces approach Pokrovsk.

Ukrainian servicemen in the Pokrovsk region say the Kursk incursion has not altered Russian attack — if anything, the pressure has increased in recent days.

There are many more, including alternative sources, tooting the same horn.

I agree that the incursion into Kursk, while tactically successful, makes little strategic sense as it will lead to large losses of men and ground in the Donbas. It is also too costly for the units involved in it.

But that holds only as long as Ukraine does not have another high card to play.

Could it be that it has more reserves or tricks that it could apply elsewhere?

I doubt this as I do not see where additional reserves could have been formed or come from.

Comments

“What would life on MoA be without the eternally drunk Aussie with two conflicting brain cells? 😉 (I’m not one to judge though, I regularly down a bottle of whisky a day.)”
if you arent drinking heavily, you arent paying attention.

Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 21 2024 18:58 utc | 101

Just another trashbag that puts on some camouflage at times.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 18:25 utc | 90
Oh and now I saw that. Do you want to inspect my camouflage, cunt? How about a discussion on Stalin’s understanding of the negation of the negation, Zhou EnLai’s likely unrecognized contributions to CPC foreign politics theory, or maybe the (petty-)bourgeois origin of modern Feminism? Or do you want to visit my workshop? You’re most welcome. I could tell you my general address.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 18:59 utc | 102

Someone may have pointed this out already, I just showed up. The Judge is back on You Tube. His guest is Col. McGregor and the Kursk fiasco is the subject.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 19:01 utc | 103

But you’re outlining an emotional response (one which I have sympathy with), but the Russians, for reasons we in the peanut gallery are never going to know, have adopted the coldly logical response of running a counter-terrorism operation.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 18:34 utc | 96
Not the Russians. The Russian leadership. I guess you could say this is nitpicking but… really it isn’t.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:02 utc | 104

Napolitano is now back on YouTube this afternoon, having been banned on Aug 17. He speaks about the banning at the end of his discussion with Col. Macgregor on Judging Freedom. On Aug 17 at Judgenap.com he posted about the ban “My first strike on free speech.”

Posted by: Pundita | Aug 21 2024 19:02 utc | 105

flying dutchman | Aug 21 2024 18:49 utc | 99
Given that Putin is personally in charge of the operation there will be investigations. If there is incompetence or worse involved we will probably get wind of it at some point, particularly if there are any arrests.
At the moment I am putting it down to complacency, coupled to the Brits being able to pull of a surprise attack with no obvious build up of forces. Also plans were kept in a very small circle depriving Russia of intel from assets on the ground.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:03 utc | 106

Indeed, we can see that the US/NATO/Ukrainian desire for some kind of emotional ‘high’, to offset the unrelenting drip of bad news from the Donbass front, has led to this useless Kursk fiasco.
But what did they do? Deplete their forces at the Donbass front to achieve this emotional ‘high’, but now what? Russian forces have taken advantage of the AFU force depletion to accelerate their progress.
Why does the movie Downfall come to mind?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 19:04 utc | 107

The Russians have slowed the move towards Pokrovsk, because they’ve opened a new front, does that suggest they are that concerned about Kursk? Expect more breathless reporting about more Ukrainian gains, new fronts, but the real litmus test is the state of the Donbas+ offensive. Hope that helped a bit, though I can’t answer specifics, only try to model likely outcomes, I don’t know enough, and I’m not guesstimating, sorry.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 17:30 utc | 58
Guesstimating is what we do, data is limited.
P.S. Google earth is quite useful , particularly using the circle to measure radius.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 19:07 utc | 108

Scott Ritter – FBI search
Dmitri Simes – same thing
Napolitano – banned
We’re saying something right!

Posted by: daffyDuct | Aug 21 2024 19:07 utc | 109

You have misunderstood the underline meaning of ‘trap’ here.
Posted by: AI | Aug 21 2024 18:31 utc | 95
You said “this was all a trap to begin with” in a thread about the Kursk offensive. Forgive me for thinking that “this” was “the Kursk offensive.” I’m not psychic.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:08 utc | 110

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 17:24 utc | 54
Here’s a site that Andrei Martyanov regularly features in his videos, indeed he uses it in his latest one:
https://mskvremya.ru/article/2023/1520-poteri-ukrainy-za-vremya-spetsoperatsii
though you will need a translation add-on if you aren’t fluent in Russian. It appears to allow the setting of any date parameters that one wishes. I’ve only had a brief play though, so may not be exactly what you’re after.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 17:44 utc | 66
Thank you, will take a look

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 19:08 utc | 111

“Britain’s Kursk invasion backfires” — Thanks b for posting the link to Klarenberg article. British government, going back years now, is looking like a bigger and bigger culprit including Kursk incursion.

Posted by: Pundita | Aug 21 2024 19:09 utc | 112

@vargas | Aug 21 2024 18:27 utc | 91
Indeed. The Intercept run by Glenn Greenwald and funded by CIA contracter Pierre Omidyar was a honeypot operation to lure potential whistle blowers after Snowden. MOA is just a bunch of people sharing some insights.

Posted by: xor | Aug 21 2024 19:10 utc | 113

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 19:04 utc | 111
The Ukie channels, at least one I now know o at least read is associated with Poroshenko, initialy believed the offensive to the north was to boost morale in preparation for a main offensive to the south. But with this offensive being into Kursk rather than to try and drive the Russians out of Kharkov it is quite possible, the Brits came up with this plan to pressure the US to give permission to use US weapons against recognized Russian soil, perhaps in particular the F16’s

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:12 utc | 114

Piss off troll.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:04 utc | 110
This does seem to be your standard go-to when you really can’t handle anything I or anyone else says? I’ve said it before, I don’t think you’re my political enemy, at least not short-term. We both wish Russia and China well in its struggle against the oppressor. It’s just, you’re a poorly educated bourgeois nationalist (please, define “conservative Socialism”) and I’m Marxist. We lack any shared value ground.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:13 utc | 115

Not the Russians. The Russian leadership. I guess you could say this is nitpicking but… really it isn’t.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:02 utc | 107
So there’s a disconnect between the Russian leadership and Russians generally? Apart from the Doomer Tendency on various channels, I’m not convinced.
Perhaps we could compare and contrast disconnections between leadership and people with the West. Certainly the disconnect between much of the remaining Ukrainian population and its leadership would make an interesting case study, given the economic tribulations many are suffering there.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 19:15 utc | 116

So there’s a disconnect between the Russian leadership and Russians generally?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 19:15 utc | 121
It’s far from the disconnect between American leadership and Americans generally, but I believe the dear Judge got banned from youtube was precisely because Pepe mentioned that disconnect and it wasn’t in the direction it “should” have been (i.e. “all Russians hate Putin and love freedom, democracy and the Ukrainian Nazi way of life.”)

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:19 utc | 117

There is no negotiating advantage in creating a fake news story of Ukrainian success.
Unless you are negotiating with Western media or Western voter. You can’t fool the Russian government or their voters.
So why fool the west – the most likely (or worrying) idea is a Nuclear false flag which can be tied to Putin’s “desperation” over Kursk – at least through western media.
Russia put out a lot of comment on Ukrainian nuclear threats – they clearly saw the same game as I do and decided to pre-empt it whatever its likelihood was.
The media has turned – my guess is that western governments (starting with Germany and US eventually following) have decided that Kursk certainly and possibly the False Flag are simply bad ideas.

Posted by: Mickey Droy | Aug 21 2024 19:22 utc | 118

I get the distinct feeling – that Nato, is planning a future war – that’s not too far away.
“Lithuania has begun building a military base between Russia’s Kaliningrad and Belarus, the Defense Ministry in Vilnius has announced. When completed, the facility will house a contingent of German troops, some 20km (12 miles) from the Belarusian border, close to the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad.
The two NATO member states sealed the agreement to build the base in December 2023, during a meeting between German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius and his Lithuanian counterpart at the time, Arvydas Anusauskas. The plan envisages the first permanent deployment of German troops on foreign soil since the end of World War II.
The garrison is expected to reach its projected strength of 4,800 combat-ready troops and 200 civilian specialists, complete with heavy armaments and support infrastructure, by the end of 2027. Called the heavy 42nd Armored Brigade, the unit will comprise three combat battalions. Two of them will be German-only, and include an armored battalion and a heavy infantry battalion. The other will be multinational.”
And this.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/08/21/pine-gap-readies-for-us-nuclear-war/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 21 2024 19:23 utc | 119

Oh and I’ll do a mea culpa here, so this is actually for Bernhard.
Yes, I’ve been banned from this forum before, and I think it was mostly because I was drunk and unhinged and kept calling for nuking everything instead of letting the Nazi Ukraine rape and murder the citizens of Donetsk and Lugansk. That doesn’t really translate to me being a “CIA agent” but it wasn’t constructive either. I’ll try to be constructive now, if the self-appointed commissars will let me.
That might not sound like an apology but it is, I’ll try to hold myself to “somewhat” higher standards.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:25 utc | 120

This trashbag, instead of screaming and yelling at his own government being party to the murder of civilians in Kurst, instead allies with Nato propaganda and screams that the Russians don’t care if their civilians care raped and murdered.
Stinking piece of shit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:21 utc | 124
ARE YOU CRAZY???!!!
LOOK AT THE POST I QUOTED. Look what he said. Look at how I put my own post in quotation marks!!! FUCK OFF!!!

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:27 utc | 121

“Piss off troll.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:04 utc | 110
“This does seem to be your standard go-to when you really can’t handle anything I or anyone else says? I’ve said it before, I don’t think you’re my political enemy, at least not short-term. We both wish Russia and China well in its struggle against the oppressor. It’s just, you’re a poorly educated bourgeois nationalist (please, define “conservative Socialism”) and I’m Marxist. We lack any shared value ground.”
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:13 utc | 120
I enjoy both your posts.
Now both of you go to neutral corners.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 21 2024 19:28 utc | 122

Mickey Droy | Aug 21 2024 19:22 utc | 125
That is what I think is happening to. In the US, the realists are taking power from the crazy ideological globalists.
I feel the most dangerous thing at the moment is the Brits pulling a large false flag to try and bring the Americans back into the war against Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:28 utc | 123

glad to hear no mention of German troops being used in this Kursk offensive
while there is talk of Russian and German communicating wrt with each other what happened in the Nordstream pipeline explosions of 2 years ago.
are there coincidences happening between whats happening now (add Trump assassination attempt, likewise other assassination attempts, etc). more than likely.
hopefully there may be a role for Germans/Russians to play to unravel this knot they’re finding themselves in
the sooner the better

Posted by: chris m | Aug 21 2024 19:33 utc | 124

canuck | Aug 21 2024 19:28 utc | 131
Nah. That piece of crap screaming and yelling at the Russian government instead of its own government and the western governments that are responsible. Disgusting piece of shit..

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:33 utc | 125

Ukraine being anble to attack and even advance into Russia is a sure sign of their courage and high motivation.
No forcefully pushed soldiers would be able to do so specialy because they would achieve nothing.
How is that called: immense will to fight despite the assured defeat in the end?
We never talked here about the Ukro motivation, their hate and will to die for the western interests.
Posted by: vargas | Aug 21 2024 16:20 utc | 28
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The “immense will to fight despite the assured defeat in the end?” is nothing less than Nazi desperation. The Nazis leaders have always demanded that the troops and civilians fight to the very end. Perhaps, it had something to do with the expected noose around their neck that gave them that extra hump at the end, ala, the battle for Berlin.
The same applies to the Uki-Nazis in Kursk: One last desperate attempt to survive. Desperation and courage are not the same thing. Zelensky. NATO, and the US are all desperate for something that looks like a victory, regardless of the cost in lives and property.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 19:34 utc | 126

MSM propaganda lines keep resurrecting here on MoA.
Russia is weak, Putin is weak, they didn’t care… and so on.
West Msm-erst followers appear to not understand how propaganda works, both sides.
Do they really think that Msm propaganda make it’s way in the RF sphere?
Do they really think that western propaganda will influence the 7 billions of the rest of world?
If so they are going to be utterly deluded.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 21 2024 19:35 utc | 127

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:12 utc | 119
I would not be at all surprised to find out that those who proclaim themselves to be the “great and good” of this country were behind this. After all, they have a long history of futile gesturing causing needless bloodshed.
@All, please do not blame all of us in this Septic Isle for the delusional, self-proclaimed grandeur. Our political system is just as manipulated as everywhere else.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 19:36 utc | 128

@PeterAU1
FIRST:

Peter has moved from denial “Muh Attrition” to anger as he goes through the four stages of grief. Grief not only over Putin’s failed SMO, but the grief of being the village idiot of MofA.
Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 13 2024 15:50 utc | 414
Peter may be an idiot but at least I don’t think he’s my political enemy. You, on the other hand, cheerleading for American warbirds over the Ukraine? Well…
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 15:59 utc | 418

SECOND:
From https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/08/ukraine-sitrep-the-kursk-incursion-was-stopped/comments/page/6/#comments

Anyway, yes, all the “trap” nonsense theories would have to assume the Russian command cynically left thousands of civilians potentially to suffer and die at the hands of the Nazis. I’d prefer to think they aren’t that cynical.
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 14 2024 0:49 utc | 598

Now apologize, you fucking bastard.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:36 utc | 129

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:28 utc | 132
Piss off troll
Posted by: Shoigu4evah | Aug 21 2024 19:31 utc | 134
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Talking about desperation? Trolls calling people trolls: A new stratagem by the trolls?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 19:40 utc | 130

canuck | Aug 21 2024 19:28 utc | 131
Nah. That piece of crap screaming and yelling at the Russian government instead of its own government and the western governments that are responsible. Disgusting piece of shit..
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:33 utc | 136
Goddamn lying asshole.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:40 utc | 131

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 19:36 utc | 139
I think its they same everywhere. The people are easily led, they can be led to believe anything and so. Much is dependent on the leadership the difference being the intent of the leadership.
I think Putin very much recognizes this and why he goes out of his way to avoid harming civilians.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:41 utc | 132

Piss off troll.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:41 utc | 145
Shut up, you fucking piss-ant. Too cowardly to admit having gotten his head stuck up his arse.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 19:44 utc | 133

@Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 17:24 utc | 54
I use the site Mediazona as its numbers are backed by actual Russian funeral and death notice facts. These do not count LPR/DPR losses, which may be higher given that such troops are on the front lines in the toughest areas of fighting.
Posted by: Roger | Aug 21 2024 17:57 utc | 78
Thank you, but I meant AFU casualties as stated by RF MOD
BTW the original mediazona, as it only counts identified obits, underestimates the number (and often has irregular delays) , I usually correct their number by multiplying by 1.56
It’s close to the number I get from correcting the total raw mortality of the whole RF
P.S. You can use the economist covid excess mortality (raw-covid+1200) monthly data

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 19:45 utc | 134

Talking about desperation? Trolls calling people trolls: A new stratagem by the trolls?
Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 19:40 utc | 142
I’m sure Shoigu4evah is a sock-puppet troll but god knows @PeterAU1 deserves a “piss off” or two for the disgrace in this thread. (Seriously, claiming I said Russia didn’t care about its civilians getting murdered because I made fun of that notion?)
Peter, GO TO SLEEP. It’s a new day tomorrow. Maybe you’ll find the sliver of gut left in your belly to admit you were wrong. Otherwise please go suck Zelensky’s cock.

Posted by: Tich | Aug 21 2024 19:50 utc | 135

Every day a new childish low at MOA chat.

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 21 2024 19:55 utc | 136

Tich | Aug 21 2024 19:50 utc | 149
Piss off troll.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:55 utc | 152
Literally nothing left but invectives. Too full of himself to entertain the notion that he was wrong all along. The white knight of the Moon of Alabama forum.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:01 utc | 137

I’m actually a bit sad that this one got drowned in the “fuck off, piss off” stream by Petard, so I’ll post it again. Please, tell me if this reasoning is at all plausible?
Personally I’d like that Super-power believing in itself, going through a process of self-reflection (look how far MAGA have moved from RINO) than it being run by Peter-Principle clowns who are presided over by increasingly dysfunctional institutional clowns, who fear their power is slipping. Reflective guy with a hangover, or schizophrenic with a shotgun?
Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 17:38 utc | 61
Well, actually, this is an interesting question. Here, people are always saying that “Putin has to be careful that he doesn’t push the lunatics in charge of the West into starting a nuclear war.”
Now, if you really believe that they will wipe out humanity if they lose, what does it matter how slow they lose? I’m sure they’ll manage to see that they’re losing. Moreover, if you think that the collective leadership of the West is simply unhinged and prone to do anything, then waging a three year war gives them 1095 days, and they only need one of these to decide “fuck it, let’s nuke them.” As Western analysts said at the start, and I actually believe them here, a full scale assault could’ve ended the war in a week. That’s 156 times less days to come to a really idiotic decision.
If I am being generous, and this… really isn’t a pleasant thought, but if I was to explain the rationale of the Russian HQ in a way that’s understandable and justifiable, then that would be that they have already come to the conclusion that the West is utterly unhinged and will certainly destroy the whole fucking planet if they lose, so the best chance they have is to stall any settlement apart from “peace on mutually acceptable terms” and hope for a change in leadership. In that case, the overthrow of the government of the United States should be the highest priority, as a majority of Americans don’t really have the stomach for going to WWIII over the Nazi Ukraine. The hot potato is Israel, though. A nation of genocidal fascists lead by genocidal fascists in full control of the American political and cultural discourse.
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 18:51 utc | 100

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:03 utc | 138

Posted by: ld | Aug 21 2024 16:40 utc | 37
Hints that US looks to expand its war into EU and draw lines for a new Iron Curtain
Trieste being used to create a new trade port?
Strategic Culture
https://strategic-culture.su/news/2024/08/21/what-the-hell-is-happening-in-trieste/
Well it’s not the USA.
Who is controlling/governing USA.
They are the one’s that are taking complete controll over Europe, for the next thousand years. Stop talking about USA- they are just their attack dog. Somebody else directs this rabid dog.
They are in the shining CITY.

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Aug 21 2024 20:08 utc | 139

Where are the western mercenaries in Kursk? They are supposed to lead from behind and hide behind civilians as shields? I have not seen footage of captured ones.

Posted by: Teraspol | Aug 21 2024 20:09 utc | 140

The Kursk incursion took so many troops from the defense

Wrong causality seems applied. The Donetsk front was already bound to collapse, with or without them.The incursions at Kursk and possibly also at Zaporizhzhia are meant to make the unavoidable complex withdrawal possible. Just prevent talks of “despair” and “collapse”, these actions are reported in some rambo style without any explanation how this would be held. It’s because nothing needs to be held. The fight is now to keep as much of Ukraine as possible after letting go of Donbas.

Posted by: John Dowser | Aug 21 2024 20:13 utc | 141

Teraspol | Aug 21 2024 20:09 utc | 156
Given that its an anti terrorism operation and mercenaries don’t come under the Geneva conventions anyway, I doubt we will see any live ones.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:13 utc | 142

@154,
U$$A/UK/EU neocon lunatics think they can get by with death of a thousand cuts and Russia being the last Christian country won’t nuke’em.
Good luck with that!

Posted by: paddy | Aug 21 2024 20:14 utc | 143

I enjoy both your posts.
Now both of you go to neutral corners.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 21 2024 19:28 utc | 131
I won’t go to any neutral corner as long as that bloody motherfucker keeps misrepresenting me and lying about me. Just watch this whole thread reading only our posts. This cunt must kneel.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:15 utc | 144

@ Mickey Droy | Aug 21 2024 19:22 utc | 125
i hope you are right about that mickey… what does it say about uk’s role here?? it ain’t good.. thanks for your comments..

Posted by: james | Aug 21 2024 20:21 utc | 145

I enjoy the odd insult answered with a slashing riposte, but the name calling is becoming silly. We can do better folks.

Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 21 2024 20:22 utc | 146

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:03 utc | 154
I think I kind of get where you’re coming from here, but I also think your perspective doesn’t take into account the rest of the world, aka Global South, aka Global Majority, aka ~ 6 billion people.
I don’t see anything that tells me that Russia (and indeed China) are ignoring this weighty cohort; I do see a lot of output that tells me the West, the “golden billion” are ignoring them, thinking that think-tanks, “Endowments for Democracy” and all the rest of the NGO paraphernalia will continue to work in the future the same way it has worked in the past. There‘s also the issue of trying to maintain a Carrier Battle Group in every ocean or 800 military bases when access to resources is coming under increasing pressure.
A nasty wake-up call is coming, indeed the SMO represents just the first bleeps of the alarm clock for the sleepy West.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 20:23 utc | 147

The only troll that I can detect here seems to be PeterAU1.
The irony…
Posted by: Petertakeyourmeds | Aug 21 2024 20:16 utc | 164
I know I am responding to a sockpuppet, but at this point so be it. There’s no way a fully functioning and present Bernhard would tolerate Peter’s “lord of the flies” stuff. I’m serious.
I’ve renamed Peter. He’s “Lord of the Flies” from here on.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:23 utc | 148

Rybar
Kursk direction: the Ukrainian Armed Forces advance near Snagost
In the Glushkovsky district, the status quo is maintained by the evening. The enemy is launching strikes, but is not attempting to cross the state border, Russian troops are building pontoon crossings under fire from Ukrainian formations, and airstrikes are carried out on Tetkino from time to time.Fighting continues in the neighboring Korenevsky district. Russian troops are holding Korenevo firmly, but to the south, the enemy, having passed Snagost, entered the neighboring settlement of Vishnevka in a column, where it was covered by UAV and artillery strikes. At the same time, based on the terrain and bridges, Ukrainian formations could not have reached Vishnevo without controlling Snagost , which is confirmed by the absence of the Russian Armed Forces in the village. – The status of Apanasovka , Vnezapnoye and Byakhovo remains in question. The enemy at least entered the first two, and Byakhovo was not mentioned in reports as being under anyone’s control or in the context of shelling. Viktorovka and Uspenovka, cut off by the Blyakhovets River , most likely remain in the gray zone if they are not under enemy control. Fighting is also underwayin the Sudzhansky district . Enemy forces in Borki and Spalnoye are subjected to multiple attacks, but apparently, the settlements have not yet been liberated from Ukrainian formations.In addition, Russkiye Konopelki, judging by artillery strikes on houses occupied by the enemy, is also under enemy control. At the same time, Russian troops do not stop artillery and air strikes on the border territory of Sumy Oblast, where the enemy continues to operate large concentrations of personnel and equipment.

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 21 2024 20:23 utc | 149

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:03 utc | 154
They might not want to end humanity, too much vested interest in power and status, but they could make a hell of a mess before the gun was wrestled from them. I think an America that is as concerned about its people’s interests, as other people’s, is far better than a psychopath who has drugged and chained them and is constantly looking for psychologically compensatory conflicts, because of ‘daddy issues’.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 20:26 utc | 150

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:03 utc | 154
I think I kind of get where you’re coming from here, but I also think your perspective doesn’t take into account the rest of the world, aka Global South, aka Global Majority, aka ~ 6 billion people.
I don’t see anything that tells me that Russia (and indeed China) are ignoring this weighty cohort
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 20:23 utc | 167
You aren’t aware of the three worlds theory of the CPC? China and Russia can adequately be described as “Second World” at this stage.

“The case of the developed countries in between the superpowers and the developing countries is a complicated one. Some of them still retain colonialist relations of one form or another with Third World countries, and a country like Portugal even continues with its barbarous colonial rule. An end must be put to this state of affairs. At the same time, all these developed countries are in varying degrees controlled, threatened or bullied by the one superpower or the other. Some of them have in fact been reduced by a superpower to the position of dependencies under the signboard of its so-called “family.” In varying degrees, all these countries have the desire of shaking off superpower enslavement or control and safeguarding their national independence and the integrity of their sovereignty.”

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/deng-xiaoping/1974/04/10.htm
As for the rest, the avalanche has started, the pebbles no longer get to vote.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:27 utc | 151

Something solid on population number of current Ukraine. 18-19 million.

So, many analysts are already sounding the alarm, saying that there are about 20 million people left in Ukraine. Moreover, the reduction in the population was not caused by the fighting in the country (and two years of war led to enormous human losses among both civilians and the military), but by the fact that most Ukrainians left the country and will not return. And that’s millions of people. At the same time, Ukraine is experiencing a sharp aging of the population, and the outflow of young and able-bodied citizens continues
The fact that Ukraine is really experiencing a monstrous demographic crisis is also indicated by the closed statistics of the NCEC on the number of SIM cards in Ukraine. According to it, the number of active mobile phone users in Ukraine is only 16 million, active SIM cards-about 25 million. Accordingly, the population is approximately 18-19 million. These are really depressing figures for the future of Ukraine.

https://t.me/s/rezident_ua

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:29 utc | 152

Posted by: Roger | Aug 21 2024 17:57 utc | 78 “The reality that they are showing – a falling rate of Russian losses as Ukrainian losses escalate, from October last year to the present”
The losses are severely lagged. There is no way to tell if the latest time frame you are measuring will be lower than earlier time frames until a substantial amount of time has passed.
You can check this by using the Wayback machine:
I started tracking the number that showed for Russian KIA for weeks with a day in January 2023, in April of 2023 when the number was 1,604. That number has more than doubled as of August 1, 2024. It has been going up by over 100 a month and totals 3,845 right now.
I started tracking the number for weeks with a day in January 2024 and it stands at 1,837. A month ago it was 1,703.
Using Mediazona, in a year you should be able to tell if the last few months has seen more, less, or the same number of Russian KIA as the same time period in 2023.

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 21 2024 20:31 utc | 153

“At the same time, based on the terrain and bridges, Ukrainian formations could not have reached Vishnevo without controlling Snagost , which is confirmed by the absence of the Russian Armed Forces in the village. – The status of Apanasovka , Vnezapnoye and Byakhovo remains in question. The enemy at least entered the first two, and Byakhovo was not mentioned in reports as being under anyone’s control or in the context of shelling. Viktorovka and Uspenovka, cut off by the Blyakhovets River , most likely remain in the gray zone if they are not under enemy control.”
It seems the Ukrainians have a much larger number of troops in the area than Russia. Ukraine doesn’t appear to have a shortage of manpower and the Russia claims “up to” of Ukrainians killed and wounded have to be very exaggerated.

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 21 2024 20:33 utc | 154

Legitimate
#rumors #layout
Our source reports that Zelensky’s Kursk adventure had the following goals:
1. Transfer of Russian troops from the front to the Kursk region.
2. The announcement of Mobilization in Russia.
3. Creating panic in Russia
4. Kiev’s attempt to “sell” this adventure to the sponsors as a large-scale success of the entire 2024 offensive, thereby knocking out new supplies of weapons and money.
5. Raising the stakes in the game with the emphasis that the Kremlin in response will shun TNW in Ukraine.
6. Failure of the peace case
7. Encourage Ukrainians to go to the shopping center on the background of such “success”.
8. Europe’s gas blackmail
9. Capture of the Kursk NPP and exchange it for the ZAANPP
That is why the Western press warmed up all these messages, but as we can see, the Kremlin did not do anything that the President’s Office wanted. Even on the peace case, they expressed it in a streamlined way, saying that the previously put forward proposals are no longer relevant. And only Medvedev said that the war will be before the capitulation of Kiev.
According to the gas case, as we understand “agreed” – this is for now.
It’s too early to talk about the failure of the Kursk adventure, but as we can see now, Zelensky has to saturate even more that part of the front with manpower and equipment so that the initial PR does not become anti-PR in the end.

https://t.me/s/legitimniy

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:35 utc | 155

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:29 utc | 172
Roughly half of the pre-SMO population, not even accounting for combat deaths.
“It may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.”
― Henry Kissinger
The old scumbag was right about that.

Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 21 2024 20:35 utc | 156

This is what, week two? Ukraine is STILL inside Russia AND advancing (even according to pro-Russian sources). Yet people claim Ukraine is on the ropes or their offensive is losing steam. The US/NATO will not stop, it should be obvious to everyone at this point. If Russia doesn’t take off the gloves and carpet bomb a major Ukrainian city into oblivion (like the Allies did Dresden) to break Ukrainian resolve, this will go on till Russia is bled white.

Posted by: bored | Aug 21 2024 20:35 utc | 157

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 17:44 utc | 66
Thank you, will take a look
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 19:08 utc | 115
Thank you, exactly what I was looking for!
And I would say the MOD numbers are AFU KIA, only way it could make sense and compatible with:
1. Putin’s kill ratio, 5
2. French general kill ratio. 5
3. Stated needs by AFU for monthly recruitment 20-25k a month, later 30k
Might as well share my new estimate and some ratios and numbers that help assess their quality
q1 q2 q3 q4 q1 q2 q3 q4 q1 q2 q3
RF KIA 11200 3950 9000 13850 7550 5850 7350 13550 12850 13800 18100
AFU KIA 31910 38630 43500 30116 34223 65474 62600 85045 86155 126740 208160
Kill Ratio 2,8 9,8 4,8 2,2 4,5 11,2 8,5 6,3 6,7 9,2 11,5
Cmlt.KillRatio 2,8 4,7 4,7 3,8 3,9 4,7 5,2 5,4 5,6 6,1 6,9
AFU month.Needs 31 910 25 753 29 000 20 077 22 815 43 649 41 733 56 697 57 437 84 493 138 773
AFU m.Cmltv.N. 31 910 28 216 28 510 26 210 25 483 28 689 30 645 34 043 36 743 41 682 50 785
Hope everyone likes it and that it might be useful for someone…

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 20:40 utc | 158

The old scumbag was right about that.
Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 21 2024 20:35 utc | 178
Yep. A few had put the number left in Ukraine as low as 20-25,000,000 but that gives a fairly solid idea rather than a guesstimate.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:42 utc | 159

OK, it looks like there’s some name-jacking going on, so I’m out for tonight, still got to get to M4 Junction 5 to get myself in Langley…
Username is OOU UFN…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 20:43 utc | 160

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:29 utc | 172

This trashbag, instead of screaming and yelling at his own government being party to the murder of civilians in Kurst, instead allies with Nato propaganda and screams that the Russians don’t care if their civilians care raped and murdered.
Stinking piece of shit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:21 utc | 124

Apologize, cunt.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:44 utc | 161

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 21 2024 20:43 utc | 184
Yep. A crazy already banned by b operating with sockpuppets and username highjacking.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:47 utc | 162

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 20:40 utc | 181
Sorry, forgot the year ( four quarters per year, 2022, 2023 and 3q of2024, q3 is an estimate)
Cant get it to display properly, if anyone wants in CSV let me know

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 21 2024 20:48 utc | 163

Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 20:34 utc | 176
The day had to come, I suppose I should be honoured but that was obviously not me. The person who is trying to impersonate me obviously has neither the erudition nor the knowledge to perform a good impersonation. So honoured, but a little hurt by the lack of effort.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 20:50 utc | 164

The day had to come, I suppose I should be honoured but that was obviously not me. The person who is trying to impersonate me obviously has neither the erudition nor the knowledge to perform a good impersonation. So honoured, but a little hurt by the lack of effort.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 20:50 utc | 189
The sentiment was the proper one, though.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:47 utc | 187

This trashbag, instead of screaming and yelling at his own government being party to the murder of civilians in Kurst, instead allies with Nato propaganda and screams that the Russians don’t care if their civilians care raped and murdered.
Stinking piece of shit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:21 utc | 124

Apologize, cunt.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 20:52 utc | 165

Republicofscotland @ 126

The garrison is expected to reach its projected strength of 4,800 combat-ready troops and 200 civilian specialists, complete with heavy armaments and support infrastructure, by the end of 2027.

Can’t wait for the Scholz presser at the opening ceremony of the new Lithuanian base, “Mein Fuhrer, I can walk!”
Remember troop sizes are secret, whatever claims are made public are made to deceive, the real size of those new NATO bases will be bigger or smaller depending who they are trying to deceive, which includes their own publics. My guess is that NATO plans to move most of the German army into the Baltics, a bit at a time, on the installment plan. They’ll be better appreciated there, seems they and their atrocities were actually missed these last 80ys.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 21 2024 20:56 utc | 166

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 21 2024 20:33 utc | 175
Good, that’s what an effective mobile defence does, tie up superior numbers, ironic if the Russians are using modified NATO tactics they’d planned to use against the Soviet Armoured assaults! Why do you think the casualty figures are inaccurate (beyond the normal errors) they are in direct relation to target density, more Ukrainians per sq km, the more chance they can become KIA/WIA.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 20:58 utc | 167

DD Geopolitics
@DD_Geopolitics
🇷🇺Russian soldier from Buryatia Bato led a dozen conscripts out of encirclement in Kursk region
During the breakthrough of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region, conscripts were surrounded, fought and retreated into the forest. Since they were not very good at orientation, they had to call in experienced fighters.
Bato has been hunting in the Buryat taiga since childhood and was able to find several of these lost soldiers and lead them to safety.
In the video, they are walking in a single line behind the fighter.
Russia is proud of you, soldier!

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1826060179101855863
Video at the link

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 21:00 utc | 168

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:29 utc | 172
Just look at the faces of the captured Ukrainians, they remind me of the gaunt, aged faces of people in down and out shelters.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 21:02 utc | 169

Peter, GO TO SLEEP. It’s a new day tomorrow. Maybe you’ll find the sliver of gut left in your belly to admit you were wrong. Otherwise please go suck Zelensky’s cock.
Posted by: Tich | Aug 21 2024 19:50 utc | 149
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Which one is it: Tich or Tichy?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 21:05 utc | 170

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 20:47 utc | 187
I’d like to think I’d voice it in more decorous terms though.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 21:07 utc | 171

Milites | Aug 21 2024 21:02 utc | 195
Its a sad thing. They are mostly brainwashed but I can’t have empathy for them when they go to the frontline with weapons.
I do however have a lot of anger towards the people that do the brain washing. Those at the top of course, but also all involved in any media outlet that assists in the brainwashing.
They are responsible for the destruction of countless numbers of people, of families.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 21:09 utc | 172

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 21:00 utc | 194
Uhuh! We really believe that story, a local man with hunting knowledge and not the SF team who just happened to be hanging around. Sorry, I’ve been in the outer loop of such ops and local forces are always given the credit for their handiwork. Don’t buy the cover story, but perhaps greenlit as the Russian version of Sisu, perhaps?

Posted by: Milites | Aug 21 2024 21:12 utc | 173

Roger | Aug 21 2024 17:28 utc | 57
*** Hopefully, we now have the “new” Putin who will carry out the war until unconditional Ukrainian surrender and drive to the borders of Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Moldova. Anything else, apart from perhaps giving the hot potato of Lviv to Poland, should be counted as a loss and will simply serve to continue the Western aggression.***
Agree, but post-war there’s also a serious danger of Putin effectively handing much of present Ukraine to Zionist and/or cult-Jewish interests.
Which in the longer term could include the WEF, its agenda and re-arrangement of nations.
He’s far too chummy with such groups to safely dismiss such possibility.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 21 2024 21:13 utc | 174

if the Baltic states are laughing about the Kremlin’s playbook, what about Germany / France / UK ?

Posted by: mowgli | Aug 21 2024 21:14 utc | 175

Milites | Aug 21 2024 21:12 utc | 201
Thanks. You would be right because it was fast reaction forces that were in first.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 21:15 utc | 176

Which one is it: Tich or Tichy?
Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 21:05 utc | 197
I forgot the “y.”
I will reiterate.
They are mostly brainwashed
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 21:09 utc | 199

Anyway, yes, all the “trap” nonsense theories would have to assume the Russian command cynically left thousands of civilians potentially to suffer and die at the hands of the Nazis. I’d prefer to think they aren’t that cynical. Posted by: Tichy | Aug 14 2024 0:49 utc | 598

This waas always a trap to begin with. Posted by: AI | Aug 21 2024 17:12 utc | 47

“Russia didn’t care if its citizens were raped and murdered.” Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 18:06 utc | 83

Do you really believe that? Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 18:10 utc | 84

I was explaining AI’s only possible rationale for the statement that “this was all a trap.” Then again I guess it’s like 3am where you live so I’ll forgive you if you’re too drunk to pick up on the nuances. Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 18:55 utc | 102

This trashbag, instead of screaming and yelling at his own government being party to the murder of civilians in Kurst, instead allies with Nato propaganda and screams that the Russians don’t care if their civilians care raped and murdered.
Stinking piece of shit.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:21 utc | 124

Apologize, cunt.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:16 utc | 177

Tichy | Aug 21 2024 18:55 utc | 102
Piss off troll.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 19:04 utc | 110
Second that. This fucking idiot is all over the thread today.
So obviously trying to derail the discussion and personally attack a well loved regular, you seem to lack the subtlety of Vargas, so I’m guessing your not paid to fuck with those opposing US imperialism’s deranged foreign policy.
Are you just some sad sack shut in? Are you an aggressive useful idiot of western imperialism who just does things like this on your own initiative?
You’re an unusual case, Ticky.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 21 2024 21:16 utc | 178

Apologize, cunt.
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:16 utc | 205
Whoa boy! Tough talk on an anonymous thread…methinks you’re a total pussy in real life, ticky.
Go jack off and take a nap or something.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 21 2024 21:18 utc | 179

Second that. This fucking idiot is all over the thread today.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 21 2024 21:16 utc | 206
I have a tendency to get angry when people lie to my face. Fuck off.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:19 utc | 180

Whoa boy! Tough talk on an anonymous thread…methinks you’re a total pussy in real life, ticky.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 21 2024 21:18 utc | 207
Except I’m not anonymous, I made a point of directing you to my personal youtube channel a while back, which you would never dare to do. What’s your job, pencil pushing or leeching off welfare? I lift six to seven metric tons a day at work.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:22 utc | 181

A question for the people who know about combat effectiveness and its maintenance.
Russian unit’s are rotated regularly from the front lines.
How regularly I don’t know.
The Ukrainians not so much.
At this point in the conflict.
How long before combat effectiveness starts to errode noticeably?
This is a ferociously intensive and completely different way of fighting than anything previous.
WW1 with cutting edge technology and innovation combined.
The casualties are huge.
How long can men withstand the strain?
I’m astounded it’s carried on at this intensity for so long.

Posted by: jpc | Aug 21 2024 21:24 utc | 182

It seems the Ukrainians have a much larger number of troops in the area than Russia. Ukraine doesn’t appear to have a shortage of manpower and the Russia claims “up to” of Ukrainians killed and wounded have to be very exaggerated.
Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 21 2024 20:33 utc | 175
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The number is not important, what is important is what happens to them (and their weapons) during their little visit to Russia. For the RUAF and the pro-Russian speaking civilians in the Donbass, it is better that these forces never return to Ukraine or the Donbass.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 21:26 utc | 183

Anyway if the Lord of the Flies is a “well loved regular” on this forum after the madness in this thread then I guess there’s no hope for the forum.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:26 utc | 184

Ukrainian front is collapsing in the Donbass
The collapse of Ukrainian defences and the advance of Russian troops continues all over Donbass. According to a source, the weakness of the AFU leads to the fact that they may soon lose the strategically important Donetsk city of Pokrovsk, which, in turn, will create a real threat of loss of other settlements held by the AFU.
The fall of Pokrovsk will be the biggest strategic success of the current Russian offensive.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 21 2024 21:27 utc | 185

This thread will lose a hundred posts by the time I get back. A lot of NAFO trash to take out. That’s how you can tell the Ukraine is not doing too good and the Empire is unhappy about it… they spam the Internet because they are stupid and think that will change things for them.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 21 2024 21:27 utc | 186

This thread will lose a hundred posts by the time I get back. A lot of NAFO trash to take out.
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 21 2024 21:27 utc | 214
And in that case you’ll be secure in your belief that b. saved you from armageddon despite the fact that the one starting the “piss off” chants was your knight in shining armor. Again, go back and read the discussion and tell me who’s at fault here.
I don’t really think he’ll delete my relevant posts but I’m pretty sure he’ll delete the insults… none of which were started by me.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:32 utc | 187

Ukrainian front is collapsing in the Donbass
The collapse of Ukrainian defences and the advance of Russian troops continues all over Donbass. According to a source, the weakness of the AFU leads to the fact that they may soon lose the strategically important Donetsk city of Pokrovsk, which, in turn, will create a real threat of loss of other settlements held by the AFU.
The fall of Pokrovsk will be the biggest strategic success of the current Russian offensive.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 21 2024 21:27 utc | 213
Well known news for a while. Do you have a source?

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:33 utc | 188

Re the way Putin operates. He is about evolution, hates revolution.
To the Americans, every problem is a nail and their tool is a hammer, but driving the nail all the in, erasing the problem entirely gives rise to a whole new crop of problems. Its better to take a problem down to a manageable level, but not to the extent it causes many more problems.
The story about chasing rats down the stairwell as a kid until one he cornered one and the rat attacked and chased him back up the stairs. Never corner a rat. Never corner a rat.
Many things has has said in different interviews give an insight to his philosophy.
hat philosophy took Russia from where it was in 1999 to where it is now.
And in studying him back to the time he took office he has far better foresight than most.
He starts putting one random piece in place at a time over a period time, but nothing can be made of it, none of the pieces form any sort of pattern, but then one day, when the time has come and there is a requirement the final piece goes in and it all makes sense.
I am content to just sit back and watch. Though I would prefer him to hurry because I am not getting younger and my health….. I would like to see the ending.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 21:35 utc | 189

aristodemos | Aug 21 2024 18:06 utc | 82
*** Thus that retrogressive remnant [Galicians] should be transformed into a quarantine zone, both for themselves and for those Khazarian refugees from liberated Palestine into becoming one feuding family along with the Banderites in the Continent’s new “Pale of Settlement”.
All parties should become happy with their new circumstances…including the Talmudists and the Banderites, who, deprived of any possible aggressive military forces, would hafta have their fun feuding with each other…maybe they will like that too.***
Who would keep them in place there? Forever?
Just a powder-keg alliance of kabbalistic malevolence waiting (and constantly intriguing) to explode out and continue its persecution and exploitation of everyone else.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 21 2024 21:39 utc | 190

All the name-calling and backbiting really shits up the threads for the rest of us.

Posted by: Featherless | Aug 21 2024 21:40 utc | 191

War is the only industry in Ukraine. It’s been so for quite a while. Pretty much since 2014. With all the major industries gone, people were signing up for military service for it was the only way to make “decent” money, which was something like $400/month.

Posted by: Nomad | Aug 21 2024 21:41 utc | 192

Anyway if the Lord of the Flies is a “well loved regular” on this forum after the madness in this thread then I guess there’s no hope for the forum.
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:26 utc | 212
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Yes Tichy, I am sorry that MoA did not live up to your expectations, so I guess you should just mosey on alone to a new site that is more in line with your views, and where people will appreciate your genius. We will all mess you here at MoA, but in time we will get over it. Happy trails to you, and yours. Your destiny awaits you at a better site, I got to go now, I am tearing already; bye-bye.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 21:41 utc | 193

Russian Air Defenses Foil Ukrainian Drone Attack On Moscow
Russian air defences once again foiled a Ukrainian attack on Moscow and several other nearby regions over the night of August 20 and 21, intercepting dozens of suicide drones.
A source said that air defence forces destroyed 45 fixed-wing UAVs preventing, again, the Kiev regime’s attempt to carry out a terrorist attack in Russian territory.
Another 23 drones were smashed over the Bryansk region, six over the Belgorod region, three drones over Kaluga region and two over Kursk.
Russian media didn’t report casualties or material losses in Moscow or any other region as a result of the failed Ukrainian attack.
Meanwhile, the Russian military is slowly eliminating a large Ukrainian force that infiltrated into Kursk and occupied several settlements earlier this month.
A source told us “the Kiev regime’s repeated attacks on Russian territory, including the latest drone attack on Moscow, appear to be a desperate attempt to distract the Russian military, which has been advancing rapidly in Donetsk and several other directions within the special military operation zone.”

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 21 2024 21:51 utc | 194

Except I’m not anonymous, I made a point of directing you to my personal youtube channel a while back, which you would never dare to do. What’s your job, pencil pushing or leeching off welfare? I lift six to seven metric tons a day at work.
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:22 utc | 209
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Are you still here?
You mean the Marxist library is your personal site?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 21:55 utc | 195

All the name-calling and backbiting really shits up the threads for the rest of us.
Posted by: Featherless | Aug 21 2024 21:40 utc | 222
That’s the intention. You know we’re above the target when that shit happens.

Posted by: PalmaSailor | Aug 21 2024 21:55 utc | 196

Re the way Putin operates. He is about evolution, hates revolution. To the Americans, every problem is a nail and their tool is a hammer, but driving the nail all the in, erasing the problem entirely gives rise to a whole new crop of problems.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 21 2024 21:35 utc | 217
“Erasing the problem gives rise to a whole new crop of problems?” That’s DIAMAT in other terms. Erasing a contradiction can’t help but give rise to new ones, but at a fundamental level that’s the only source of progress. The collapse of the slave society? The French revolution? Water boiling is a revolution. “The straw that broke the camel’s back.” Not that I’d expect you to understand, but what you just said was that Putin is a status-quo piss-liberal. I hope he isn’t.
I know that you probably wrote this post feeling mighty proud of your deep understanding, but as a matter of fact, all you proved is you have zero understanding of basic Marxist theory.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 21:55 utc | 197

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 21 2024 21:27 utc | 213
Ukrainian front is collapsing in the Donbass
Well, while Newsweek has that article linked by B, it more recently published this article:
Ukraine War Maps Show Russian Advances Stall Everywhere but Pokrovsk
So this Kursk offensive might be accomplishing the goal of shutting down the Donbass front.

Posted by: Inka | Aug 21 2024 21:59 utc | 198

Here’s a suggestion:
Set up a separate thread strictly dedicated to insulting comments.
I am at the point where I only read posts that include URLs.

Posted by: Perimetr | Aug 21 2024 22:00 utc | 199

Are you still here?
You mean the Marxist library is your personal site?
Posted by: Ed | Aug 21 2024 21:55 utc | 226
You know what I referred to, coward.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 21 2024 22:01 utc | 200