Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 12, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: The Kursk Incursion Was Stopped

On its seventh day the Ukrainian army incursion into the Russian Kursk oblast seems to have come to a halt. The front-lines are hardening and the Russian side is using its artillery and bombing predominance to push it back.

There are three Ukrainian brigades involved plus a number of battalions that have been dispatched away from their brigades involved in other parts of the front. The 80th and the 82nd paratrooper brigades are the main forces. They have partly been trained in Britain and Germany and are using western equipment. The 22nd mechanized brigade is the third major unit. Then there are some five to ten battalions from various other brigades.

The Economist reports (archived) on the operation from a hospital in Sumy:

[T]he accounts from Ukraine’s wounded suggest it has not been a walk in the park, and remains risky. The hospital ward reeks of the sacrifice: soil, blood, and stale sweat. Foil burn-dressings line the corridor. In the yard, the patients, some wrapped like mummies from head to toe in bandages, smoke furiously. Angol, a 28-year-old paratrooper with the 33rd brigade, looks like a Christmas tree. His left arm is immobilised in a fixation device. Tubes, bags and wires protrude from his body. He was also about 30km into Russia when his luck ran out. He isn’t sure if it was artillery or a bomb that hit him. Maybe it was friendly fire; there was a lot of that. All he can remember is falling to the ground and shouting “300”, the code for wounded. The Russians had been on the run up to then, he insists, abandoning equipment and ammunition as fast as they could.

That the Russia border troops have taken to run is not astonishing. They were mostly conscripts and not armed sufficiently to withstand an armored onslaught:

Some aspects of Ukraine’s operation appear to have been meticulously planned. Operational security delivered the element of surprise, a crucial aspect of warfare. “We sent our most combat-ready units to the weakest point on their border,” says a general-staff source deployed to the region. “Conscript soldiers faced paratroopers and simply surrendered.” But other aspects of the operation indicate a certain haste in preparation. All three soldiers quoted in this article were pulled, unrested, from under-pressure front lines in the east with barely a day’s notice.

The Ukrainian army moved in with the best troops it still had plus some extras scrapped from the bottom of its barrel. Russian units which have been moved to the border have put a halt to the Ukrainian movement. Mobile reconnaissance platoons the Ukrainians have been sending down the roads to outlaying towns have mostly been eliminated. The huge progress seen on some Ukraine friendly maps now looks much smaller. Some 30 small settlements have been captured but even the local administration center Sudzha, with previously 6,000 inhabitants, has not been fully conquered.

A new Ukrainian attempt today to cross the border at the Kolotilovka checkpoint in the Belgograd region has failed and the Ukrainian units involved there have taken losses.

Russia has thus mostly contained the Ukrainian onslaught. The operation is now a new meat grinder like Krinky on the southern front previously was. An operationally isolated attrition pit into which the Ukrainians will have to feed more and more reserves they do not have or will retreat from treeline by treeline.

Russian drones and bombers are now leading the fight. The Russian Ministry of Defense claims that the Ukrainian incursion has lost much of its armored equipment (machine translation):

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk area, the enemy lost up to 1,610 servicemen, 32 tanks, 23 armored personnel carriers, 17 infantry fighting vehicles, 136 armored combat vehicles, 47 vehicles, four anti-aircraft missile systems, a multiple launch rocket launcher and 13 field artillery pieces.

The Ukrainian side knew of the danger that its operation could be a dead end. As the Economist writes:

Ukraine does not appear to be reinforcing its positions in any serious sense. “Our calf demands a wolf,” the security source cautions, using a local saying to warn against overly ambitious objectives.

The source cautions against comparing the Kursk incursion to Ukraine’s successful swift recapture of much of Kharkiv province in late 2022. The Russian army is taking the war more seriously now, he says: “The danger is we’ll fall into a trap, and Russia will grind our teeth down.”

It seems to me that this is exactly what has now happened. It was utterly foreseeable.

The operation though is a momentarily still a success in that it increased the moral of the Ukrainian side:

Tired, dirty and exhausted, the soldiers say they regret no part of the risky operation that has already killed scores of their comrades: they would rejoin it in a heartbeat. “For the first time in a long time we have movement,” says Angol. “I felt like a tiger.”

That week long rush of good news for Ukraine is now at its end. The involved units, which already lost a full brigade worth of equipment, will shrink away further. There will be no one to replace them. In the Donbas the Russian army continues its offensive against the weakened and retreating Ukrainian units. New York, Chasiv Yar and Toretsk will soon be taken.

There will soon be questions asked in Kiev, "What was the point?", to which no one will have a good answer. The Ukrainian commander in chief General Syrski may well have to leave over it even though the pressure to do the hopeless operation came, as The Times writes (archived), from elsewhere:

President Zelensky’s personal fingerprints are all over it. It’s been an open secret in Kyiv for many months that the president was pressing his military chiefs to launch a summer offensive.

Given Ukraine’s manpower and resources problems, they were hesitant. But Zelensky is desperate to reverse the narrative that Ukraine is losing its war.

Zelenski believed the Kursk operation would help to keep the war going with Russia failing over time and Ukraine becoming the winner. The Russian Duma announced today that there will not be another mobilization. A mobilization, and following unrest, is something Zelenski had hoped for. There will be no uprising in Russia because of the Kursk incursion, just an increase in nationalism.

The week long operations was certainly insufficient to do change the long term narrative. The high it has caused in Kiev and elsewhere will soon make room for a deep depression.

Comments

Tichy | Aug 14 2024 0:21 utc | 586
Yes. Its how the ‘west’ rolls. Modus operandi.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 1:23 utc | 601

Milites,
Just one video I saw some days ago – A bulldozed path across the border. An engineering vehicle had obviously gone through first clearing anti tank obstetrical and no doubt mine fields. The video was taken from an armored column that was crossing the border.
Quite likely a number of dirt roads have been pushed through which would help disperse logistics and also shorten routes to the frontline units.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 1:37 utc | 602

FYI
Artillery accounts for 60+% of warfare ‘casualties’ So all other things being equal with russian’s 5-10x’s the artillery, that relationship holds true for the 5-10x’s relationship of ukrainian/russuian deaths and casualties. Way more attention is paid to infantry… The principle value. Terms such as meat grinding etc. evolve out of this relationship. The caveat is the tremendous that FPV’s have had in this modern war. Where once again Many adjustments have evolved to protect the most valued element.
There’s no occupation without feet on the ground (beyond artillery range). As a by the way RU has regularly expended up to 10,000 rounds a day. multiply that out… 5-10 missiles / soldier. Napkin numbers.

Posted by: thebeek | Aug 14 2024 1:37 utc | 603

thebeek | Aug 14 2024 1:37 utc | 604
Add to that the superiority in missiles – being able to to strike anything anywhere in Ukraine any time – and alongside that the superiority in Russian air defence which negates most Nato missiles, and now on top of that is the glide bombs.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 1:47 utc | 604

RT – The office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) has asked Moscow for access to Kursk Region in order to verify Russian claims of abuses committed by invading Ukrainian troops.
Russian Human Rights Commissioner Tatyana Moskalkova had called on the UN to condemn Ukrainian “terrorism” and take measures to prevent human rights violations.
“We are trying to gather information about the situation in Kursk Region, but without access it is very difficult,” OHCHR spokesperson Ravina Shamdasani said on Tuesday. “We have requested access to Russia to be able to obtain additional information.”
The OHCHR has acknowledged that at least four Russian civilians have been killed as a result of the “Ukrainian military operation.”
According to acting Kursk Region Governor Aleksey Smirnov, at least 12 Russian civilians have been killed and another 121 injured, including ten children. He also said that over 120,000 residents have been evacuated from the border area.
Russian lawmaker Aleksey Chepa, deputy chair of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs, told the media on Tuesday that Moscow is inclined to approve the UN request for access.
“If there are no provocations here, and the UN commissioners will be objective about the information they can get there, then obviously yes,” Chepa told the outlet Lenta.ru. “They can see the destruction that took place and draw the appropriate conclusions.”

Posted by: Fred | Aug 14 2024 2:01 utc | 605

Tired, dirty and exhausted, the soldiers say they regret no part of the risky operation that has already killed scores of their comrades: they would rejoin it in a heartbeat. “For the first time in a long time we have movement,” says Angol. “I felt like a tiger.”
These people are utter morons. When will Ukrainians wake up and depose their President who has had so many Ukrainians killed and all so that the US can win against Russia,break it up and steal its vast resource wealth.
I wouldn’t want to be in Ukraine when that day inevitably comes.
Hope you’re healing well, B!

Posted by: Kay | Aug 14 2024 2:19 utc | 606

“If there are no provocations here, and the UN commissioners will be objective about the information they can get there, then obviously yes,” Chepa told the outlet Lenta.ru. “They can see the destruction that took place and draw the appropriate conclusions.”
Posted by: Fred | Aug 14 2024 2:01 utc | 606
The UN will do absolutely nothing and take a piss on any available evidence.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 14 2024 2:20 utc | 607

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 14 2024 2:20 utc | 608
Letting OSCE or UN in would be a pretty bad idea, considering they will scout out targets for AFU, like the OSCE did in Donetsk and Lugansk during Ukraine ‘ATO’. UN is completely compromised to the FUKUS alliance.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 2:28 utc | 608

Welcome to Kursk!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2024 2:29 utc | 609

Here is the issue I have with the statement of some that the Kursk offensive is not that big of a deal.
Even if it ends in tears for the UAF, which I tend to think it will, and even if Russia takes back all their territory, and even if Russia establishes a DMZ or buffer zones in Sumy, , Kharkov, and the entire border area inside of Ukraine, NATO just invaded their country.
Heck, from reading the comments it sounds like most of the Kursk op forces were foreign mercs.
Even if Ukraine is turned into dust by Christmas, Russia has to make NATO countries pay. In a way that hurts them worse than Russians got hurt.
Because even if every last Ukrainian is dead, Lithuanians got next. Or maybe Estonia will be used as the next country 404 by NATO.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 14 2024 2:36 utc | 610

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 14 2024 2:36 utc | 611
There was one report about there being 180 Polish and 120 Georgian mercs, and a bunch of other mercs from the FUKUS countries. If you take it at face value, that could be 5-10 % or probably more of attacking force, depending if you use 6000 or 3000 attackers. And like in Balakleya-Kharkov 2022, these mercs would be the ones roaming around and killing civilians.
Not only NATO invaded, but killed civilians. Those border villages obviously south and south-east of Sudzha that fell into the ‘pocket’ are un-defendable until they can kick the AFU out of Sudzha, and put their incursions between Sumy-Belgorod under control. The villages directly north and east of Sumy fell into the ‘pocket’ which AFU will most likely be holding for the longest time.
It’s obvious those border villages that have potential to fall in the pocket should have been evacuated.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 2:53 utc | 611

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 23:55 utc | 580
Scorpion | Aug 13 2024 23:37 utc | 578
Dugan has always been that way.
Lavrovs hybrid war – slower and not a hollywood war movie, but is a method of taking down the Empire without mutually assured destruction.
Russia moves into war mode, that means the civilian economy is devoted to war, not to constantly increasing prosperity. That would put the Russian people through much greater hardship.

That reminds me of one of his earlier pieces recommending War as a means to forge a new Russia in the hearts and spirits of contemporary Russians, that only War can provide that level of psychospiritual national-civilizational lift off.
I do not know who Dugin’s target audience is, whether the articles we get to read in English are intended for Western or Russian readers (though I suspect the former – plus his father was in Intelligence). Be all that as it may: his is an intelligent voice that adds interesting intellectual layers to the mix.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 14 2024 2:54 utc | 612

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 2:28 utc | 609
That too. Seriously, Russia has exposed the true nature of the UN dozens upon dozens of times. Why take another tactical L doing it all over again? It’s time for the UN to go the way of the League of Nations. Russia, China and every nation resisting US imperialism should just leave it.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 14 2024 2:55 utc | 613

Fact is Russia has failed catastrophically in every metric. Any competent country with its size, army and resources would’ve won this war in the first three months. Now, they have a slug fest which they win ten square kilometers for a few thousand dead soldiers. Absolutely ineptitude at every conceivable metric we can measure. Russia wanted all of Novorossiya and has to settle and be humiliated on the world stage.

Posted by: Canada for Gold | Aug 14 2024 2:59 utc | 614

Historically, Russia has only themselves to blame for the far-right Bandera movement in Ukraine. Bandera thrived because Stalin was a tyrant. Many Ukrainians (foolishly I think) threw their lot in with Hitler when Germany snatched Ukraine from Stalin’s distopian grip.
Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 13 2024 18:12 utc | 480
Didn’t Bandera mostly kill the Polish in Ukraine? And Stalin was Georgian and came after Lenin who was installed with German, UK and US financing and help. Germany sent him into Russia in a guarded train. Stalin also took Russian land and gave it to Ukraine, so why wouldn’t they like him. If you reverted to pre-Stalin boundaries Ukraine would be much smaller.

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 14 2024 3:01 utc | 615

Now, they have a slug fest which they win ten square kilometers for a few thousand dead Ukrainian soldiers.
Posted by: Canada for Gold | Aug 14 2024 2:59 utc | 615
Fixed that for you.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 14 2024 3:03 utc | 616

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2024 0:26 utc | 590
Whatever one thinks of Dugin, he is as much an ardent Russian patriot as anyone. He knows the cost of failure in the SMO and conflicts to follow, and that it could mean an end to Russia (Rum, the third Rome), and possibly humanity. The future he has seen is one where liberalism’s final frontier after freeing people from their gender is to free us from being human at all (transhuman, post-human).
This isn’t the stuff of the Kursk invasion but it is the highest level stakes if one is a materialist.
I am not a materialist.

Well said.
Interesting times….

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 14 2024 3:06 utc | 617

Basically, Zelensky has gone for the military equivalent of a sugar-high.
Sure, it gives a momentary buzz to the system, but it doesn’t last.
This one didn’t last very long at all.

Posted by: Yeah, Right | Aug 14 2024 3:18 utc | 618

Scorpion LoveDonbass
In thinking about Medvedev, Russia gearing up for war with nato. Dugan and Medvedev are in a different class to the click baiters and rabid nationalists that instantly blamed Kursk on the military – and Putin is commander in chief of the military.
Interesting times ahead.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 3:28 utc | 619

You all realize no one needs oil for fuel anymore.
MIT has put out a paper that says practical fusion energy is now an engineering problem.
Russia does now look like a chump. China is not going to want mercenaries too weak to defend their own borders.
A week to kick out rabble is a long time for a minor Great Power, with delusions of being a serious player on the world stage.
None of this is good news because I think Russian diplomatic efforts were reasonable and that the “indivisibility of security” is a valid principle. But Putin has botched it. If he were my employee, I’d fire him; good intentions don’t count for this level of screwup.
A wedge has been driven between China and Russia and divide and conquer is simply one of the best way to take apart enemies.
The neocons are proceeding with their war, instead of diplomacy and trade. They seem to have got a handle on how to proceed. The West is going to light the world on fire and they play a tune as the Sino-Russian block scrambles to react.
Russia’s only option is to drive deep into Western Ukraine where it will get bogged down in an insurrection for decades. But it won’t be enough, so Russia will have to attack Poland, et al, which is what the neocons want.
The U.S. block is now dictating the tempo of geopolitical events and causing the Sino-Russia block into continuous reaction.
Now we know why Russia has dee dilly dallied around by not shutting the door on Ukraine. Russia is not strong enough.
NATO sits back and hits with impunity. I think hegemonic stability theory is ridiculous, especially of the military kind. Trade in cooperation is better, even if one can’t control events as strongly.

Posted by: ICPtasking | Aug 14 2024 3:31 utc | 620

Tichy | Aug 14 2024 2:55 utc | 614
RoW have taken the UN charter with them and are operating according to the UN charter.
karlof1’s term – the outlaw empire sums it up well.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 3:32 utc | 621

ICPtasking | Aug 14 2024 3:31 utc | 621
Fuck off troll. You spruik for nato/empire, you are a troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 3:35 utc | 622

Main stream media – the scribblers that inhabit that world – they are directly responsible for the deaths of millions. The Ned NGO’s all who work eithin that are directly responsible for the deaths of millions.
Anyone who propagates Anglo American talking points are directly responsible for the deaths of millions.
Those formerly neutral Ukrainians now killing and going to there own deaths – it is the propaganda writers that are directly responsible for that. The Palestinians dying, it is the propaganda writers that are directly responsible.
Anyone who propagates those talking points are directly responsible for all this death and destruction we watch.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 3:45 utc | 623

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 3:28 utc | 620
###########
One is a man of action, the other a man of ideas. Both would gladly give their lives for the Fatherland. Dugin already gave his daughter.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2024 4:00 utc | 624

LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2024 4:00 utc | 625
Genuine patriots of their country.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 4:04 utc | 625

Russia’s only option is to drive deep into Western Ukraine where it will get bogged down in an insurrection for decades.
Posted by: ICPtasking | Aug 14 2024 3:31 utc | 621
#############
I always smile when people predict the future with a high degree of specificity. There is no way you know anything substantive about what Russia’s long-term or endgame plans are, forgetting that we’re surrounded by Black Swans, which by definition we will not predict ex-ante.
As you seem like a Western NATO fan, maybe you should worry about the impending dollar crisis and what will be its devastating effect on the European vassals. Russia is too big of a problem for America to tackle at this time. They can’t even handle the Houthis (illiterate Bedouins in flip-flops and robes).

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 14 2024 4:07 utc | 626

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk Direction: Clearing of Snagost and AFU Attacks in the Korenevo Area
What is known as of the end of August 13, 2024
AFU units are launching attacks on several sectors of the Kursk Direction with the support of armored vehicles, seeking to dislodge the Russian Armed Forces from their positions. Russian troops are pinning down the AFU and striking concentrations of enemy armor, while reinforcements are arriving in the Kursk Region at the same time.
🔻In the Korenevo District, fighting is ongoing in the area of Snagost, which was previously cleared by Russian forces. The situation in the Korenevo – Tolpinsky area remains tense: artillery is striking enemy positions, seeking to weaken the pressure on Russian units. According to some information, by evening the AFU had launched another attack on Russian positions on the approaches to Korenevo.
▪️The situation in the settlements of Obshchiy Kolodets and Kauchuk is currently obscured by the “fog of war”. There have been no reports of AFU units entering these settlements, which suggests they remain under the control of the Russian Armed Forces.
🔻In the Sudzha District, Ukrainian formations are also attempting to expand their salient, as before, using mobile armored groups. In Sudzha, a fire seriously damaged the building of the Sudzha Agricultural College. There have been no reports that would allow unambiguously asserting control over Martynivka by either side at the moment.
▪️By evening, footage emerged suggesting confident control of Plekhovo by Ukrainian formations – if earlier only enemy armor was recorded in this area, the video that surfaced online shows the presence of its infantry units on the central street of the settlement.
🔻In the Belovo District, the clearing of the environs of Girya and Ozerki is underway, where an AFU armored group was routed yesterday. Confident control over the vicinity of the settlements is also confirmed by a report by one of the Russian media, filmed at the site of yesterday’s battle.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/16960

Posted by: Down South | Aug 14 2024 4:12 utc | 627

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Chronicles of the special military operation
for August 13, 2024
Russian forces struck targets in Sumy and Chernihiv Regions on territory controlled by the Kyiv regime. In turn, Ukrainian formations launched drone strikes towards Voronezh Region.
In the Kursk direction, Ukrainian formations are attempting to expand the salient in Kursk Region on several sectors of the front. At the same time, Russian Armed Forces units are striking concentrations of personnel and armored vehicles of the AFU, as well as pinning down mobile enemy groups in combat.
On the Slobozhansky direction, the AFU attempted an unsuccessful attack in the area of the Kolotilova border crossing. The sides are exchanging artillery and UAV strikes, with no significant changes to the front line observed over the past day.
In the Artemivsk direction, Russian units established control over Hill 215 southwest of Klishchiyivka, which had been the site of fighting throughout the year.
On the Pokrovsk direction, Russian forces liberated the settlements of Ivanovka and Svyrydonivka and advanced towards the southern outskirts of Novotroitske. Fighting is ongoing on the approaches to Hrodivka, where the Russian Armed Forces are expanding their control area around the ruins of a brick factory.
On the South Donetsk direction, the Russian Armed Forces are engaged in combat in Kostyantynivka and on the approaches to the T-05-24 highway, used by the AFU to supply the garrison in Vuhledar.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/16955

Posted by: Down South | Aug 14 2024 4:14 utc | 628

Reuters is reporting Ukraine advances in Kursk
Ukraine says it is still advancing in Russia’s Kursk region, hints at ‘next steps’

Ukraine said on Tuesday its biggest cross-border assault of the war to date had taken control of 74 settlements in Russia’s region of Kursk and was still advancing, making gains of one to three km in the last 24 hours.

The fog of war….

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2024 4:17 utc | 629

(It’s my birthday, so I’m going to celebrate by sneaking in one of my rare, semi-satiric posts. I expect few will see it as most won’t manage to wade through 600+ comments.)
Hey. rulers of the West, you want to pivot to China, but can’t figure out how to get your junk out of the bear trap, right? Here is the cheapest, quickest way to recover your family jewels. Its also something you folks do all the time.
It’s simple. Just regime change the Ukraine government. Install neutrals who purge the nazis and demilitarize. Done and run. You can say you were winning but that the Ukrainians themselves gave up. You’ve already done it once, should be simple to pull it off again.
Quick and clean, and we’re off to Taiwan!
You’re welcome!
spindz

Posted by: spindz | Aug 14 2024 4:41 utc | 630

One thing this did assure is that negotiations are obviously off the table now no matter the developments. A poster a thread or so ago said it perfectly.
Smoke’m if you got them…

Posted by: eman | Aug 14 2024 4:49 utc | 631

@ spindz | Aug 14 2024 4:41 utc | 631
lol! good idea and – happy birthday!!

Posted by: james | Aug 14 2024 4:52 utc | 632

spindz james
Its in the works and will occur. War with Russia or war with China. The killing goes on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzkYYE6hmjg

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 4:59 utc | 633

@ spindz | Aug 14 2024 4:41 utc | 631 with the Hollywood ending to the Ukraine conflict.
Happy Birthday!
I agree that the rulers have their junk in the bear trap and their neck on the line in Occupied Palestine. Pivoting to Taiwan is a delusional wet dream for empire that might not make it to the US November (s)election.
The global parasite that couldn’t create another host to infect is the God Of Mammon cult and I hope to see them go down in the little left of my life time.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2024 5:01 utc | 634

@ Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 4:59 utc | 634
lol.. i believe it was a women bass player who came up with that bass line which is key to the song – i am forgetting her name.. she was part of the wrecking crew.. carol kaye.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Kaye
gotta dig those women bass players!!

Posted by: james | Aug 14 2024 5:05 utc | 635

Now I am reading a posting
Ukraine urges Russia to accept ‘just peace’ amid incursion
the quote

Ukraine said Tuesday it would not hold on to Russian territory captured in its surprise cross-border incursion and offered to stop raids if Moscow agreed a “just peace”.

Desperation is what is smells like to me.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 14 2024 5:10 utc | 636

Happy B-Day spindz!
james, thanks for thanks for the carol kaye lesson. My daughter plays bass.
Posted by: Yeah, Right | Aug 14 2024 3:18 utc | 619
I think the high might be from something a little stronger than sugar. Booger sugar.
Dugan is a brilliant mind. As love donbass said, he lost his daughter for his homeland.

Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 14 2024 5:13 utc | 637

Medvedev are in a different class
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 3:28 utc | 620
He’s surely in a different class. Last time he had any power he gave the Barents sea and +30bn worth of resources (in 2010 money) for nothing to his buddy Shtolty.

Posted by: rk | Aug 14 2024 5:16 utc | 638

james | Aug 14 2024 5:05 utc | 636
I tend to go back at times to the music I would hear on the radio as a kid and in my my youth.
A time of optimism for me I guess.
Now – the beat goes on, the killing goes on. Perfidious Albion and divide and conquer/control. That will be brought down but still some killing to go.
The mind control here in the west, the colour revolutions, is the worst part of it. To see people sucked into their own destruction.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 5:31 utc | 639

In Aug. 2017 Prime Minister Medvedev commented on Trump’s humiliation when Congress removed Russia matters from him and assigned them to itself via The Russia Sanctions Review Act of 2017. Medvedev: “The Trump administration demonstrated it is utterly powerless, and in the most humiliating manner, transferred executive powers to Congress….Any hope of improving our relations with the new U.S. administration is over….The American establishment completely outplayed Trump.”…8/6/2017, “Playing Politics with the World’s Future,” Alastair Crooke…https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/06/playing-politics-with-the-worlds-future/
…(This completed the nullification of the 2016 election for all the world to see).

Posted by: susan mullen | Aug 14 2024 5:35 utc | 640

rk | Aug 14 2024 5:16 utc | 639
Fuck off troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 5:35 utc | 641

Posted by: james | Aug 14 2024 5:05 utc | 636
If I had to bet without looking, I’d put money on her being in the Beach Boys’ “Pet Sounds” recording studio.
As a musician yourself I’m sure you’re also familiar with Jaco and, of all bands, the bassist for Duran Duran. Not many people realize it, but it was the bass line that drove ALL of their songs to becoming hits.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 14 2024 5:40 utc | 642

Fuck it. We’re off topic, James and anyone else interested in string bass (I played lead trumpet in lab band at two of the biggest universities in Texas so I’m not just some dumbass – I’m my own dumbass, thank you very much).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0SeSeHEJwQ
This one will destroy your woofers.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 14 2024 5:47 utc | 643

Commander-in-Chief Syrsky at yesterday’s meeting with the President asked to increase the transfer of reserves from the rear in order to hold positions in the Kursk region, since the situation is difficult and the Ukrainian Armed Forces have suffered serious losses over the past two days and the entire strike group has almost lost the ability to attack, and it is unrealistic to defend on foreign territory without serious prepared lines of defense.
There is also a risk of encirclement of the group if the Russians try to cut off the supply line. The adventure will then turn into a cauldron and the flight of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Zelensky gave the go-ahead to saturate this direction by sending new units, and still begin the second stage of the offensive most likely in the South, as previously planned. Although the Russians have not transferred reserves from the front.
Zelensky realizes that the failure of the offensive will drag along with it a huge deficit in equipment, which cannot be compensated for in the near future, which means it will be necessary to fight only with infantry, whose morale will fall against this background.
By the way, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are now sending mobile units to Donbass, who must slow down the advance of the Russian Armed Forces at the cost of their lives.
The situation with the Kursk adventure is not rosy and may turn into treason if the second stage of the offensive fails and there is no result due to the huge losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region.

https://t.me/legitimniy/18526

Posted by: Down South | Aug 14 2024 5:55 utc | 644

Historically, Russia has only themselves to blame for the far-right Bandera movement in Ukraine. Bandera thrived because Stalin was a tyrant. Many Ukrainians (foolishly I think) threw their lot in with Hitler when Germany snatched Ukraine from Stalin’s distopian grip.
Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 13 2024 18:12 utc | 480

This book:
The Mongols in Russia (by Jeremiah Curtin (1908)) the first almost-half of the book is a painfully detailed account of the formation and political minutia of the Rus.
After initial supremacy of the Kiev based regime, “the Russias” became a loose collection of princedoms individually led by the various descendents of Rurik. In the couple of centuries leading up to the Mongol invasion and subsequent centuries of the Tatar Yoke, the primary pastime of the several “Russias” was fighting each other, with shifting alliances and rivalries between different cousin-branches of the Rurikid Dynasty.
The reason I bring this up, was what I found to be a particularly interesting episode in the mid-1100’s:
The Boyars of Galicia (AKA West-404) envied the feudal conditions in the Kingdom of Hungary just to their west. Something along the lines of they thought the King of Hungary would allow them to exploit their rus-peasants even more than their Rurikid prince was allowing… so the Galician Boyars invited the King of Hungary to enter Galicia and take over (much to the chagrine of their prince). This resulted in bloodshed, war, more shifting alliances, and armies of Hungary, Poland, and of the other “Russias” battling for decades to determine whether this area would remain in the Russo-sphere…
Galicia has been a “problem child” of the East-Slavs since the 1100’s.
To assign causal-blame anytime within the last century, is 800-900 years too late.

Posted by: retroflecks | Aug 14 2024 5:57 utc | 645

The US is planning to unleash a campaign to discredit Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky to pave the way for replacing him with a more pliable figure, Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) has claimed. The agency believes former Interior Minister Arsen Avakov is being considered to take the helm of Ukraine.

https://www.rt.com/russia/602559-us-avakov-replace-zelensky/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 14 2024 6:01 utc | 646

Aleph_Null | Aug 14 2024 6:01 utc | 647
It is going to happen. China is solidly on the agenda. The comedian of Kiev is a dead man walking. But still the Brits and Euro elites will be solidly focused on Russia. They will go the way of Ukraine though it may take a little longer.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 6:06 utc | 647

Ed | Aug 13 2024 22:27 utc | 564
james | Aug 13 2024 22:36 utc | 567
It’s my impression that some comments that don’t refer to a specific post in the discussion are written as comments to the original blog article.
I assume that occasional readers that end up here may not always look at the discussion section as a general forum where readers interact with each other.

Posted by: robin | Aug 14 2024 6:08 utc | 648

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 14 2024 2:36 utc | 611
Lithuania and Estonia are Nato countries. They can’t be used as proxy. If they go alone without Nato art. 5 umbrella they will be obliterated in days.
Only possible proxy is Moldova, unless they can go by some ‘Stan, but it’s too small.
By the dimension of army first come Turkey next comes Poland.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 14 2024 6:12 utc | 649

By the dimension of army first come Turkey next comes Poland.
Posted by: Mario | Aug 14 2024 6:12 utc | 650
Poland with its mighty armee…. They are not considered a brotherly nation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqcj4pRZ1R8

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 6:20 utc | 650

flying dutchman troll alert
Never feed these retarted idiots

Posted by: 🌶️Mike | Aug 14 2024 6:32 utc | 651

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 6:20 utc | 651
Sorry I didn’t get the point of your post expecially for the link at a YouTube video of classic commercial ads.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 14 2024 6:46 utc | 652

Battles on the Kursk Front: the arriving reserves have stopped the advance of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and continue counterattacks /the maps are very approximate, there is no continuous front, maneuverable combat operations are underway/
▪️The enemy has sharply reduced its activity in the occupied territory in many areas, equipment is being pulled up, regrouping and sending mobile groups to carry out harassing strikes and reconnaissance in force. Artillery is actively operating along the entire section of the front on both sides.
▪️In the Rylsk direction, the enemy is switching more to positional warfare, over the past day it has launched a number of attacks in small groups, without abandoning the plan to advance to envelop Korenevo on the flanks. Our operators identified groups of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and attacked them with drones. The enemy no longer stormed Korenevo, but fired at the plant in the village and neighborhoods.
▪️According to the Russian Defense Ministry, the Sever group of forces and the approaching reserves, aviation, UAVs and artillery have prevented attempts by mobile groups of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on armored vehicles to break through deep into Russian territory in the areas of the settlements of Obshchy Kolodez, Snagost, Kauchuk, Alekseevsky.
▪️From Snagost, the Ukrainian Armed Forces militants were driven out and are trying to counterattack.
▪️An attack by units of the 82nd airborne assault brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Sudzha in the direction of Martynovka was repelled. Up to 15 militants, 2 armored vehicles and 2 pickups were destroyed.
Ukrainian military analysts report that the Russian army is conducting counterattacks:
▪️”In the area of ​​the settlement of Malaya Loknya, the Russians continue to attack from the east,” they write.
▪️”Small arms battles continue on the southeastern outskirts of Sudzha. There is extremely contradictory information about the situation in this area. Heavy fighting continues to the east in the area of ​​Martynovka and to the north.”
▪️”The Ukrainian Armed Forces, supported by M113 armored personnel carriers, attacked in the eastern part of Plekhovo (according to footage from a UAV). There are reports from the ground of fighting in this area.”
▪️Fighting continues in the areas of Spalnoye, Orlovka and Pogrebki.
Analysis by Yuri Podolyaki

https://t.me/geromanat/31672

Posted by: Down South | Aug 14 2024 6:50 utc | 653

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Front #Report for the Morning of 14 August 2024⚡️
🔴On the #Zaporozhye Front, without significant changes. Positional fighting continues in the area of #Rabotino and northwest of #Verbovoye. There are reports of reserves moving to this section of the front. (Fig. 1)
🔴On the #Donetsk Front, fighting continues in #Konstantinovka, there are advances by the RFAF.
🟡In #Krasnogorovka, Russian forces are also advancing from the northern side of the settlement, knocking the remnants of the AFU out of the town. In #Karlovka, without special changes on the ground, but the fighting is very active. The AFU is holding defences in practically every house, so the advance is not easy for our troops.
🟡In #Grodovka, the RFAF are also advancing in the settlement.
🟡In #NyuYork and #Dzerzhinsk (#Toretsk), there are also more tactical successes of the RFAF. (Fig. 2)
⭐️In #ChasovYar Direction, @Wargonzo missed the 👉 Recapture of #Kleshcheyevka.
🔴On the #Kharkov Front, without major changes in the line of contact. Fighting continues in #Volchansk and #Glubokoye.
🟡The AFU has significantly reduced their counterattacks in recent days, but the area continues to be active. (Fig. 4)
🔴In the #Kursk Region, the AFU are not abandoning their attempts to expand their zone of control, but in all directions they are facing the defence of our troops, which have deployed along the entire line of contact. Mobile groups of Ukrainian troops from 5 to 20 people are still active.
🟡In the area of #Korenevo, there are battles, where the Ukrainians are trying to bypass the settlement.
🟡In the area of #Kauchuk, there are also oncoming battles.
🟡In general, the frontline in the area is beginning to stabilise and take shape, so we should expect the RFAF to move from active defence to offensive action in the near future.
📜 Wargonzo

https://t.me/sitreports/32871

Posted by: Down South | Aug 14 2024 6:53 utc | 654

Basically, Zelensky has gone for the military equivalent of a sugar-high.
Sure, it gives a momentary buzz to the system, but it doesn’t last. This one didn’t last very long at all.
Posted by:
Yeah, Right | 619

zelly sugar from santa marta sailed to mauritania with a stop at bremen to unload some sweetener and fruit to gdynia through poland along with whatever else. There’s reverse routes with just as much or more oversight with stops at a midsbury, back to west jonesport with “cargo” sickening “cargo”.

Posted by: NJH | Aug 14 2024 6:53 utc | 655

I note that whenever anything happens that is good for Kiev, this blog is smothered in Kiev supporters spouting all manner of propaganda.

Posted by: Kaiama | Aug 14 2024 6:56 utc | 656

Mario | Aug 14 2024 6:46 utc | 653
Poland is not considered a brotherly nation.
Poland the church of Rome, Russia the church of Constantinople have been enemies for centuries. The polish elite still hold to that. If they attack Russia, it will not be a very limited SMO. They will be destroyed as quickly as the Georgian military was destroyed back in 2008

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 6:57 utc | 657

🇷🇺🇺🇦A number of Ukrainian media outlets write that units of the 80th and 82nd brigades of the Ukrainian Armed Forces have been withdrawn from the Kursk region due to serious losses and the impossibility of supply.

https://t.me/intelslava/64946

Posted by: Down South | Aug 14 2024 7:25 utc | 658

Galicia has been a “problem child” of the East-Slavs since the 1100’s.
To assign causal-blame anytime within the last century, is 800-900 years too late.
Posted by: retroflecks | Aug 14 2024 5:57 utc | 646
Very interesting. Thank You.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 14 2024 7:39 utc | 659

LoveDonbass @ Aug 13 2024 21:57 utc | 555

What Dugin is speaking about, and which eludes smooth brains, are the fundamental truths of power, which as I have said for 2+ years, has its own laws and rules.
It doesn’t care about aesthetics or morality. You either win, or you lose. It is a binary. To lose is to potentially lose everything forever. How you arrive at winning or losing is a secondary consideration. If you have to throw the soft innocent bodies of your 4-year-old children at the enemy to win, you must. The cost of losing is slavery, and possibly extinction. There are no sad songs played for the defeated. See the native Americans.
[…]
That is what Dugin is talking about.

Not sure I would go as far as to say truths. This is just regurgitated Nietzschean Übermensch ideology. Incidentally it’s the same winner-takes-all zero-sum thinking that has informed/infected both US and Nazi as well as Banderan ideology. The Russian far right isn’t far either.
You seem to consider this thinking as capital T Truth, hope you can see there still are alternatives. While war can create master/slave relationships, war does not build things. It just destroys or pillages what got built in the collaborative phase of peace. War is sterile, the beast starves and runs out of steam always.
The predatory forceful nation is not the successful one – the stable but defensive one is and I mean defensive in a strict self-defense sense, not the way imperialists abuse that word.
Dugin’s school of thought (which can be termed Nazi or Fascist) will be the biggest threat to the new BRICS world order and the goal of multipolarity. While there may be something said for Realpolitik and against Idealism, this violent pro-conquest ideology is pathological in my view.
Thought is a big word for might-makes-right impulses too.
Anyone who subscribes to this basically advocates for oppression and conquest as the rule for success and denies there are peaceful options.
I hope the slow adoption of psychology by human culture will lead us to understand how power politics and institutionalised religion are systems of oppression and will be considered pathological.

Posted by: SOS | Aug 14 2024 7:47 utc | 660

Former Trump aide Kellyanne Conway has registered as a foreign agent for Ukraine, will receive $50,000 a month working for oligarch Victor Pinchuk. 8/5/24, Politico, “She will work to convince U.S. lawmakers and other influential figures to attend or participate virtually in next month’s Yalta European Strategy summit in Kyiv on the dime of Pinchuk’s eponymous foundation, according to a copy of the contract filed with DOJ.
—She’ll also engage with those same targets “to explain the
importance of Ukraine to the rules-based order
and the protection of democratic principles” and “contribute to raising awareness among US decision makers of Ukrainians’ fight for freedom and the Russian illegal war of aggression,” which could include organizing meetings between Ukrainian soldiers and veterans and U.S. policymakers on behalf of the nonprofit, DOJ filings show.”…https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-influence/2024/08/05/conway-becomes-latest-d-c-power-player-linked-to-pinchuk-00172694

Posted by: susan mullen | Aug 14 2024 7:51 utc | 661

@james | Aug 14 2024 5:05 utc | 636
I guess we are far enough down the thread to go off topic…
Lady bass players?
Laura Lee in Kruangbin

Posted by: Another Thing | Aug 14 2024 8:10 utc | 662

https://t.me/milinfolive/128344

A selection of our most interesting news and materials for yesterday that you might have missed:
— Footage of captured Ukrainian soldiers in the Kursk region.
— Use of new FPV drones “Vandal” controlled via fiber optic cable in the Kursk region.
— The OFZAB-500 aerial bomb has acquired a UMPK.
— An obituary for the pilot of the MiG-29 of the Ukrainian Armed Forces shot down on August 12.
— Contracts have been signed for the T09-A6-1 “Arena-M” KAZ for T-90M tanks.
— The first captured American M1126 Stryker in the Kursk region.
#digest

https://t.me/milinfolive/128306

The new FPV drone “Vandal” (Prince Vandal Novgorodsky, KVN), controlled via fiber optic cable , flies right into a pickup truck with Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers in the Kursk region.
Similar drones yesterday destroyed a column of Ukrainian BTR-4Es near the village of Giri in the Belovsky district.
You can notice the strikingly different quality of image transmission, as well as the preservation of the signal until the moment the drone touches the target. Such FPV drones are not afraid of electronic warfare systems, which the enemy has brought with him in abundance , but at the same time the drone has certain limitations on the range and flight routes.

https://t.me/milinfolive/128339

Specialists from the Tula Instrument Design Bureau have developed the Kh-UPLA missile for drones, designed to destroy lightly armored vehicles.
This was reported to TASS by a representative of the enterprise at the Army-2024 forum.
The Kh-UPLA missile can be used from reconnaissance and strike UAVs to destroy lightly armored vehicles, dugouts, and enemy fortifications. The missile is guided to the target in the same way as the Krasnopol guided missile, by laser illumination of the target. The
launch range is from 4 to 8 km. The mass of the high-explosive fragmentation warhead is 6 kg.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 14 2024 8:16 utc | 663

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 6:57 utc | 658
Thank you for your replay.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 14 2024 8:20 utc | 664

The only msm news I expose myself to is a five minute report every hour on CBC Radio 2. CBC lost what remained of their credibility when the word “alleged” disappeared from their lexicon during Russiagate. So i try to be amused by their enthusiastic cheerleading for the Ukraine but today I was confused. Apparently this incursion into Russian territory was to be used as a bargaining chip in potential peace talks after the US presidential election. But that is over 2 months away and I can’t see any way they will be able to keep the territory they captured. Maybe they figure it will count in their favour in negotiations for Kharkov?
Here is a link to an article that promotes the same motivation (as does the first video):
Putin vows worthy response
All I really glean from this is that an obedient mouthpiece is announcing that the Biden administration wishes to be done with the whole Ukraine thing.

Posted by: Gerry L Forbes | Aug 14 2024 8:26 utc | 665

Stalin was a Georgian bully who hated Russia with all his heart (and it is not surprising that Georgian mercenaries participated in this attack on Russia). Stalin was succeeded by the head of the Ukrainian Bolsheviks: Khrushchev, who was succeeded by Brezhnev who was Ukrainian.
It was the Russians who dismantled the USSR in exchange for being accepted in the West, and as Gorbachev said at the end of his days: we thought we were talking to normal people, and i add, not to sociopaths and their ignorant sycophants like Napoleon.

Posted by: Simon | Aug 14 2024 8:30 utc | 666

https://t.me/rybar/62758

The front line in the Kursk region has been stable for more than a day. There are minor changes that can be ignored. At the same time, if you look at Ukrainian resources, you get the impression of an ongoing breakthrough. The Internet is jubilantly reporting on newly captured settlements. Today they announced control over Plekhovo. In fact, they entered Plekhovo not yesterday or even the day before yesterday.
The Armed Forces of Ukraine have built a system of psychological warfare. They have taken control of most information flows and are skillfully operating them. It is clear that a colossal amount of work has been done to centralize information coverage of the invasion. Units entered our settlements and made a photo report. However, they release these “canned goods” as needed. This is done in order to maintain euphoria in their own society and intimidate the Russian one.
As a result, we get two dimensions. The first is the real situation on the front, and the second is the media picture. Due to the centralization and planning of information flows, even in the event of a retreat on the front line, a huge number of “blanks” will be thrown into the information space. We will declare control over the inhabitants, and in response they will give us their unpublished videos, which will stupefy Internet analysts. All this will be done in order to sow panic and kill faith in the Russian army.
This is the reality now. A brutal psychological war is underway, which can break the psyche of unprepared viewers. To avoid this, you just need to believe in our defenders. We will definitely win and the occupiers will be thrown out of our land. Faith is a defense mechanism and it is now more necessary and effective than ever.
Alexander Kharchenko

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 14 2024 8:32 utc | 667

Ah, I see this is the second time this week Russia has stopped the incursion as per this website.

Posted by: AsTheWindBlows | Aug 14 2024 8:39 utc | 668

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is the so-called West, The West Empire:
1) sociopathic, narcissistic and cynical masters
2) their servile comercial representatives aka politicians
4) a mass of ignorant mental slaves
5) trapped in the dark Platonic cave created by Colossal Media Bubble dreamed up by Frank Wisner

Posted by: Simon | Aug 14 2024 8:44 utc | 669

Per Theti Mapping, the AFU moves toward Koronevo and Kromski Bykie have been more or less bottled up. The AFU still tries to make moves to the east of Koronevo, but limited by the water reservoir. They really need to move along the road and take Koronevo, else they won’t get far.
The situation is still more fluid SE of Sudzha toward Giri’i and Belaya.
AFU doesn’t have any real air defense beyond Sumy (the initial BUKs and Strela and a Patriot PAC radar were struck by RUAF, remember), which makes shooting up those deep recon AFU groups a turkey shoot. And this is probably the tide turning point.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 8:49 utc | 670

I agree. One explanation: most western people are racist, they think that they have more rights than others, that they are civilized when they loot, kill and genocide people of the rest of the world and all that in the name of “human values”. When they reversed all the values.
Posted by: Naive | Aug 12 2024 23:38 utc | 196
Personally, I think your user name is quite apt, and your remarks above have it backwards, as far as your use of the word civilized. You use civilized in a sense of superiority, or it’s a good thing to be civilized. Hilarious.
Let me guess you think barbarians and savages are lesser humans than you glorious civilized folk. No offense of course.

Posted by: jimbo | Aug 14 2024 8:49 utc | 671

Zelensky calling this incursion a ‘raid’ is the first real indicator that things are not going to plan. Raids, hit hard then cheese it, Z is prepping the country and the MSM for a narrative of success when the inevitable advancing pseudopods collapse back in on themselves, or be pocketed.
The inner perimeter will hold to allow this passage of lines, whilst harassing columns set up numerous echoes, that are boosted by SM, to confuse the Russians. Then, if allowed the main body will start a phased withdrawal, with the whole incident over quickly. The glowing pieces, about the amazingly, amazing audacious and successful operation are already sitting in the electronic out-trays of the media.
Trouble is, Russia will take Pokrovsk, and although it will undergo a sudden transformation from being a critical logistics hub, to something of little real value, (cf Bakhmut, Avdeevka) the damage will have been done.
In short, they drove in, they walked out, v’s they just keep on driving.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 14 2024 8:51 utc | 672

The only funny thing about this is that the USA, Canada and the union of castrated Eu-nuchs… we are now exactly the old USSR
(and on top of that we are the envy of North Korea, because no one in public can deviate from the script under penalty of paying a high price, and you have to speak quietly in dark bars)

Posted by: Simon | Aug 14 2024 8:55 utc | 673

Posted by: Gerry L Forbes | Aug 14 2024 8:26 utc | 666
The supposed bargaining chip is worthless.
1000skm (Sirsky measuring units may be different from standard units) of absolutely nothing, just cultivated fields and forests, that cannot be kept for more than a few weeks.
Only the npp in the region could possibly be a valuable item.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 14 2024 8:55 utc | 674

Posted by: SOS | Aug 14 2024 7:47 utc | 661
No. What you see in Dugin is the understanding of how things simply are from the pov of the west’s victims. He describes the reality of orthodox slavic people since the 1990s at the hand of westerners. And it is with this understanding that we must fight their supremacy.
What you are talking about is the latest iteration of the western empire, the progressivist mind virus, with the purpose to keep things as they are. Not fight back because it is “faschist” to do that. It smells to me like a soros upbringing. The ideology of keeping the orthodox slavic slaves in the former warshaw pact from getting their shit together and driving the western sycophants away.
Wonder if your BLM rioters – the highest achievement of the progressive mind virus so far since they decided an election – were as disgusted from “might-makes-right” because they as sure as hell exhibited a lot of might.
Yes, Dugin is not inclusive enough and there are other things there which are dubious to me. And also to the majority of Russian thought at the moment. But I and many others that are in nature liberal and progressive are starting to reject your version of it because it is just a tool in the hands of those that are trying to erase our dignity and enslave.

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 14 2024 9:02 utc | 675

/cheep
/alights on PeterAU1’s shoulder
🙂
Seems like this topic is wrapping up and you’ve been bouncing the bar as our host recuperates. Do you need me to go Scrappy Doo on the rest of the knuckleheads? ^.^ “Let me at ’em! Let me at ’em!”
>:)
/hops on PeterAU1’s shoulder and throws wing combinations
=)
Let’s show some love for the bar and try to get along everyone!
/hops some more and throws a one-two wing combo
^.^
I may not be cut out to lay down the law around here, too small beyond our tasty but off-limits bar flies and bar fleas.
/cheep cheep

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 14 2024 9:05 utc | 676

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 8:49 utc | 671
So why are Russia not saturating the area with helicopters, jets, drones and gunships and annihilating the Ukranians in the Kursk settlements.
Often we see from above groupings of troops and vehicles and only one drone drop and then 1 vehicle is destroyed or 3 or 4 Ukes are taken out and 8 are scurrying on to continue their assault.

Posted by: anon | Aug 14 2024 9:14 utc | 677

Fighter Bomber TG wonders at the failure to adopt a ready-made modernisation of the target management system in bomber aircraft. There appears to be no discernible reason, or none that is compatible with honour.
A related matter is the choice to develop a UPMK glide kit for FAB-3000, over unshowy but far more relevant improvements in the range and accuracy of the existing kits that could handle anything up to FAB-1500. Note that range improvements increase the safety of crew and aircraft, the single most important operational consideration, FAB-3000 will only ever be is a niche tactical option.
When the development of a FAB-3000 kit was announced it was noted by everyone who understood the matter that this would be a niche tactical option and that improvements to the existing kits would be more beneficial. Development went ahead anyway and the kit was demonstrated in combat conditions where it worked as advertised, give or take low initial accuracy. It was then immediately announced that work would proceed on range and accuracy improvements to the whole UPMK family, as was suggested from the outset.
This whole decision making process was demonstrably inadequate from a military-technical standpoint so the question remains as to what factors were decisive.
It is noteworthy that the development of this UPMK glide kit was accompanied by a contract from the MoD to restart production of FAB-3000 bombs. My own working hypothesis is that this was a final round of procurement kickbacks to be added to the existing fortune of the former minister of defence before his replacement, which can’t have come as a compete surprise to him.
Moolah!
https://t.me/fighter_bomber/17728

On the issue of aviation ping, there is the following.
There is a system called “KRUS” (reconnaissance, control and communication complex), with the help of which in Syria, at first, the old Su-24M drove the Barmaleys into the sand, then the Su-34 was pulled up to their level.
This is the same automatic target designation system that helps instantly transmit to the aircraft all the necessary data about the target, suggests the necessary ammunition, the necessary combat course and other data in automatic mode.
The navigator does not need to specify on the radio a hundred times where the “spoons” are, where the “plates” are, and in the end, anyway, write down the target coordinates incorrectly and hit the wrong place. A wonderful system. For Syria.
With the beginning of the SVO, it was immediately forgotten, because there were no scouts willing to find targets online in the enemy’s rear under it, as well as to bomb these coordinates with free-falling cast iron.
But it (the KRUS system) did not stand still.
It was developed thanks to those who don’t give a shit about the communication range, and its indication capabilities, and the range of ammunition.
Today it can already distribute right here today to the Su-34 with sychs, to its entire range of long-range weapons, including UMPK, Kh-35u and “Groms”, the target coordinates in the machine. For many hundreds of kilometers.
Right in the air, can you imagine? Any PAN with this system. Just like in a computer game.
Everything has ALREADY been tried and tested, but no one gives a shit.
I tried to figure out why no one gives a shit, I couldn’t find the ends and they are lost somewhere in the GK behind some ridiculous formal replies at the level of a regular TP, far from military science and from your SVO.
The system can be used with other types of aircraft and helicopters, but yesterday it was ready for use under the Su-34.
But it is not used. That’s why our PAN is running aviation today with a pacifier and binoculars in hand, like “our grandfathers fought” 80 years ago.
Today, in Kursk Oblast, it would be appropriate and timely.
And it would be possible to draw on slides, almost without stealing, that we are fighting as aircraft are supposed to fight in the 21st century.
Here I am powerless, only a nonchalant from about a lieutenant general can help here.
And where can I find him.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 14 2024 9:23 utc | 678

Posted by: anon | Aug 14 2024 9:14 utc | 678
That is context dependent. Maybe a video showing a grenade drop is whittling down some of them, maybe the remnant DRG even if they move forward, encounters another type of layered resistance further down the road, etc.
This, IMO, is the main value of channels like MS and Theti Mapping, they show geolocated videos and put a small context around them. You will never understand the picture by only single isolated videos on YT or Twitter or TG. But even this sort of approach is significantly limited because it’s merely 2% of the entire picture with 98% like force disposition still missing. And these are information we will never really know.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 9:37 utc | 679

Major General Apty Alaudinov, commander of the Akhmat Special Forces:
We received very interesting materials – the whole account of the operation itself, which was being prepared, by what forces, what was planned. Well, what can I say to Zel, who is overdue? On the 11th they should have taken the Kurchatov nuclear power plant. Today is the 14th. Your 11600 or 11900 men and the number of tanks that were involved did not fulfill the task. And you’re sitting there with Syrsky, listening to that turkey. The task was not accomplished. But all the resources that you more or less still had on the move, you threw them into the furnace, from where they will not come out. Most of the equipment has already been destroyed from what was thrown in our direction.
I would like to say to everyone watching me: friends, this blitzkrieg of Zelensky, which was planned with the seizure of the nuclear power plant in Kurchatov and coming to negotiations with an ultimatum that we should leave somewhere and do something, has failed. Next we will systematically destroy every fascist who got into our territory.
We have already got our teeth in and we are unlikely to let the enemy go until we rip out his ankles. Our teeth are tough, strong. Russia is a country that God loves. This is not Urina. So I’m sorry. That’s why since morning the guys have been pounding the enemy, tearing up a lot of the enemy.
To be honest, I’ve been thinking all these days – I knew that the fighting would have to end in 2024 in the fall. But I had no understanding of what would cause these all forces to somehow surrender, I couldn’t figure it out. Now I already have a clear understanding. God has done everything for these people to have their heads blown off, they all gathered together and rushed here so that we could destroy them and thus end this war.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/105933

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 14 2024 9:37 utc | 680

It is funny how russian officials and propagandists are not mentioning nuclear weapons anymore after Kursk incursion. Now everyone can see it was all bullshit.

Posted by: Pierogi | Aug 14 2024 9:57 utc | 681

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 7:30 utc | 290
Interesting that you say Alexey Dyumin is ‘Putin’s man’. I can’t helping wondering then if he was Stavka’s first choice? – And whether there is some implied criticism, however veiled, of General Gerasimov, following the embarrassing undetected incursion?
Dyumin is obviously the right choice for the job and the fact that he has been given such sweeping powers surely suggests that the magnitude of the incursion is not being downplayed (unlike Gerasimov’s breezy initial assurances). The incursion is unlikely to go anywhere strategically damaging, although it seems to be spreading east along the border. And on the evidence of the Kupyansk counter-attack in 2022, it will take some time and resources to dislodge.

Posted by: Gerry Bell | Aug 14 2024 10:03 utc | 682

Regarding the defeat of their proxies the inflictors are stepping back into “innocence”:
https://tass.com/world/1828787
As s.o. mentioned yesterday, the massive activity of globalist/nafo trolls is happening exactly when their site is losing badly (watched that first at Debaltsevo). And yes: It´s a narrow grade between correcting nafo-/globalist propaganda (for new readers searching for real information) and feeding the trolls/allowing them to derail discussions. May be sometimes one alternative is better than the other. Hard to decide in general.

Posted by: Blue Angel | Aug 14 2024 10:04 utc | 683

Posted by: flying dutchman | Aug 12 2024 17:47 utc | 7
“petered out on its own.” How is this effected? Did the troops decide to take a vacation? You are talking bollocks.

Posted by: horseguards | Aug 14 2024 10:05 utc | 684

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 14 2024 1:16 utc | 601
The question will be do they harry the retreating Ukrainians or make an effort to cut them off and kill them. Trying to pocket forces in an ISR saturated environment is quite a risky endeavour. Golden bridge, or Silver bullet, I think they’ll go for option a).
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 8:49 utc | 671
Shades of ‘73, when the Egyptians advanced beyond their SAM umbrella and found out SPAAG’s and Strelas don’t really cut it.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 14 2024 10:07 utc | 685

Regarding the defeat of their proxies the inflictors are stepping back into “innocence”:
https://tass.com/world/1828787
As s.o. mentioned yesterday, the massive activity of globalist/nafo trolls is happening exactly when their site is losing badly (watched that first at Debaltsevo). And yes: It´s a narrow grade between correcting nafo-/globalist propaganda (for new readers searching for real information) and feeding the trolls/allowing them to derail discussions. May be sometimes one alternative is better than the other. Hard to decide in general.
Posted by: Blue Angel | Aug 14 2024 10:04 utc | 684

The story around this attack in Kursk originates to when Nato and Ukraine were having loan/grant negotiations.
Basically US agreed to gave Ukraine $60 billion loans and grants (most of it was a loan) in exchange for Ukraine mobilizing 200k people by the Autumn and launching an attack on Russian territory. The US money pays for necessary items in Ukraine’s budget that is needed to maintain full mobilization of the population.
The EU, being the lapdog also gave Ukraine grant money in the tens of billions euros.
The money was used to pay off RADA deputies and Zelensky’s gang for mobilizing people and putting together an offensive in Russia, augmented by Nato mercenaries.
Captured Ukrainian soldiers said in their interrogation that that attack is Ukraine’s last hope. That can be translated that Nato was counting on this offensive messing up RU lines which force them to withdraw away from Donbass.
If that doesn’t happen (seems they failed to mess things up enough), Pokrovsk is on the table and the Ukrainian force takes massive losses, along with Nato mercs (evidenced by Ukrainian ambulances continuously running between Sumy and Russian border). The cup is bare for Nato, as far as influencing battle in Ukraine goes.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 10:11 utc | 686

Now 120k russians are being evacuated. And there is no place for them. That causes internal problems for Russia. Also it just shows everyone that Russia is weak, they cannot even protect their borders. Borders with a country they are fighting with since more than 2 years. And suddenly there is 0 nuclear rethoric from russian side. No more talk about destroying enemy countries. Nobody is afraid of russia anymore. Lol even germans say “yeah, they can use our weapons in Russia”, it tells a lot 🙂

Posted by: Pierogi | Aug 14 2024 10:14 utc | 687

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 14 2024 9:37 utc | 681
‘On the 11th they should have taken the Kurchatov nuclear power plant’
All the below, if the above is true:
Sudzha was a D+1-2 objective, failure to take it until D+7-8 doomed the whole offensive-raid. Been saying that everyday since the offensive started.
So, a 3-4 phase operation and they never got beyond 2, epic fail. Well planned and executed, my arse! Pardon my French, and now I’m off to blow my own trumpet till the memsahib tells me to can it!

Posted by: Milites | Aug 14 2024 10:25 utc | 688

And suddenly there is 0 nuclear rethoric from russian side. No more talk about destroying enemy countries. Nobody is afraid of russia anymore. Lol even germans say “yeah, they can use our weapons in Russia”, it tells a lot 🙂
Posted by: Pierogi | Aug 14 2024 10:14 utc | 688
There was nuclear rethoric from russian side?
There was talk about destroying enemy countries?
Somebody could say to you: fuck off Nafo troll.
But there is no need for that, as soon the tide turns in Kursk you will be nowhere seen on this blog.

Posted by: NoName | Aug 14 2024 10:27 utc | 689

I’m circumspect ; how can a drone operator feel safe when there is literally a tread leading to the emitter ? How do you avoid counter battery ?

Posted by: Savonarole | Aug 14 2024 10:38 utc | 690

Posted by: Pierogi | Aug 14 2024 10:14 utc | 688
You clearly don’t have any idea on Russia. No place for 120k?🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: Mario | Aug 14 2024 10:43 utc | 691

Just incase NATO is thinking of starting a full on war with Russia (head to head)
We should all be reminded of the great Vladimiri Putin’s words …..
Ther wont be a world without Russia.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 14 2024 10:49 utc | 692

Posted by: nazcalito | Aug 13 2024 20:42 utc | 531
“the purpose of paid trolling is intelligence gathering. The idea is to generate responses which will then go into a database.”
Well stated.
It ties in with what that asshat, Millei Vannilei, running Argentina (for the CIA/MI6/Mossad axis, not his nation’s people) has proposed.
He’s spruiking the idea of creating an AI-based, intel-agency operated, department of “Pre-crime”.
Unbelievable as it sounds to “normal folk”, that is where the deep state fascists are heading.
You can now be accused, tried, and convicted of thought-crime…if this gets any traction.
At this stage, it would almost be a blessing were we to be hit by a huge solar-flare that wipes out all electronics on Earth.
The future is incredibly overrated.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 14 2024 10:53 utc | 693

Let me put that another way……
NATO is planning a full on war with Russia and the great Vladimri Putin knows it.
Right here right now !

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 14 2024 10:54 utc | 694

Posted by: Pierogi | Aug 14 2024 10:14 utc | 688
Strange, there seems to be no evidence of what you claim are big issues in relocating people. In fact people around Russia are happy to temporarily accommodate evacuees from the region which indicates selfishness has been washed away.
Who cares what some idiots in Germany say? Leopards haven’t been seen anywhere for a long time and now even British withdrew the rest of their 5 remaining Challenger tanks to save them from more disgrace.
You hoping for nukes in London?

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 14 2024 10:56 utc | 695

Posted by: Savonarole | Aug 14 2024 10:38 utc | 691
It’s virtually invisible, similar to the wires trailed by ATGM’s. It’s a work around before fully autonomous targeting, the issues will be snagging and range.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 14 2024 10:57 utc | 696

Belgarod regeon has now declared an emergency.
Wake up folks.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 14 2024 11:02 utc | 697

Posted by: Pierogi | Aug 14 2024 10:14 utc | 688
Why would anyone need to be evacuated if not for the murderous terroristic impulses of the very temporary occupiers.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 14 2024 11:03 utc | 698

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 14 2024 11:02 utc | 698
My city was declared an emergency when some wind knocked down transmission lines and I had no power for a week. I didn’t notice anything but the heat and the declaration.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 14 2024 11:05 utc | 699

Tom collins @ 700
How close in miles are you to the front line between the west and Russia ?
Typical smart arse comment from you, typical yanky exceptionist false infalabilty.
Answer… your about 5 miniutes from the front line. WTFU.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 14 2024 11:13 utc | 700