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August 12, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: The Kursk Incursion Was Stopped

On its seventh day the Ukrainian army incursion into the Russian Kursk oblast seems to have come to a halt. The front-lines are hardening and the Russian side is using its artillery and bombing predominance to push it back.

There are three Ukrainian brigades involved plus a number of battalions that have been dispatched away from their brigades involved in other parts of the front. The 80th and the 82nd paratrooper brigades are the main forces. They have partly been trained in Britain and Germany and are using western equipment. The 22nd mechanized brigade is the third major unit. Then there are some five to ten battalions from various other brigades.

The Economist reports (archived) on the operation from a hospital in Sumy:

[T]he accounts from Ukraine’s wounded suggest it has not been a walk in the park, and remains risky. The hospital ward reeks of the sacrifice: soil, blood, and stale sweat. Foil burn-dressings line the corridor. In the yard, the patients, some wrapped like mummies from head to toe in bandages, smoke furiously. Angol, a 28-year-old paratrooper with the 33rd brigade, looks like a Christmas tree. His left arm is immobilised in a fixation device. Tubes, bags and wires protrude from his body. He was also about 30km into Russia when his luck ran out. He isn’t sure if it was artillery or a bomb that hit him. Maybe it was friendly fire; there was a lot of that. All he can remember is falling to the ground and shouting “300”, the code for wounded. The Russians had been on the run up to then, he insists, abandoning equipment and ammunition as fast as they could.

That the Russia border troops have taken to run is not astonishing. They were mostly conscripts and not armed sufficiently to withstand an armored onslaught:

Some aspects of Ukraine’s operation appear to have been meticulously planned. Operational security delivered the element of surprise, a crucial aspect of warfare. “We sent our most combat-ready units to the weakest point on their border,” says a general-staff source deployed to the region. “Conscript soldiers faced paratroopers and simply surrendered.” But other aspects of the operation indicate a certain haste in preparation. All three soldiers quoted in this article were pulled, unrested, from under-pressure front lines in the east with barely a day’s notice.

The Ukrainian army moved in with the best troops it still had plus some extras scrapped from the bottom of its barrel. Russian units which have been moved to the border have put a halt to the Ukrainian movement. Mobile reconnaissance platoons the Ukrainians have been sending down the roads to outlaying towns have mostly been eliminated. The huge progress seen on some Ukraine friendly maps now looks much smaller. Some 30 small settlements have been captured but even the local administration center Sudzha, with previously 6,000 inhabitants, has not been fully conquered.

A new Ukrainian attempt today to cross the border at the Kolotilovka checkpoint in the Belgograd region has failed and the Ukrainian units involved there have taken losses.

Russia has thus mostly contained the Ukrainian onslaught. The operation is now a new meat grinder like Krinky on the southern front previously was. An operationally isolated attrition pit into which the Ukrainians will have to feed more and more reserves they do not have or will retreat from treeline by treeline.

Russian drones and bombers are now leading the fight. The Russian Ministry of Defense claims that the Ukrainian incursion has lost much of its armored equipment (machine translation):

In total, during the fighting in the Kursk area, the enemy lost up to 1,610 servicemen, 32 tanks, 23 armored personnel carriers, 17 infantry fighting vehicles, 136 armored combat vehicles, 47 vehicles, four anti-aircraft missile systems, a multiple launch rocket launcher and 13 field artillery pieces.

The Ukrainian side knew of the danger that its operation could be a dead end. As the Economist writes:

Ukraine does not appear to be reinforcing its positions in any serious sense. “Our calf demands a wolf,” the security source cautions, using a local saying to warn against overly ambitious objectives.

The source cautions against comparing the Kursk incursion to Ukraine’s successful swift recapture of much of Kharkiv province in late 2022. The Russian army is taking the war more seriously now, he says: “The danger is we’ll fall into a trap, and Russia will grind our teeth down.”

It seems to me that this is exactly what has now happened. It was utterly foreseeable.

The operation though is a momentarily still a success in that it increased the moral of the Ukrainian side:

Tired, dirty and exhausted, the soldiers say they regret no part of the risky operation that has already killed scores of their comrades: they would rejoin it in a heartbeat. “For the first time in a long time we have movement,” says Angol. “I felt like a tiger.”

That week long rush of good news for Ukraine is now at its end. The involved units, which already lost a full brigade worth of equipment, will shrink away further. There will be no one to replace them. In the Donbas the Russian army continues its offensive against the weakened and retreating Ukrainian units. New York, Chasiv Yar and Toretsk will soon be taken.

There will soon be questions asked in Kiev, "What was the point?", to which no one will have a good answer. The Ukrainian commander in chief General Syrski may well have to leave over it even though the pressure to do the hopeless operation came, as The Times writes (archived), from elsewhere:

President Zelensky’s personal fingerprints are all over it. It’s been an open secret in Kyiv for many months that the president was pressing his military chiefs to launch a summer offensive.

Given Ukraine’s manpower and resources problems, they were hesitant. But Zelensky is desperate to reverse the narrative that Ukraine is losing its war.

Zelenski believed the Kursk operation would help to keep the war going with Russia failing over time and Ukraine becoming the winner. The Russian Duma announced today that there will not be another mobilization. A mobilization, and following unrest, is something Zelenski had hoped for. There will be no uprising in Russia because of the Kursk incursion, just an increase in nationalism.

The week long operations was certainly insufficient to do change the long term narrative. The high it has caused in Kiev and elsewhere will soon make room for a deep depression.

Comments

Armchair Warlord
@ArmchairW
The only thing I’d want to add to Mikael’s excellent analysis here is that the Russians are actually fighting a much more conventional area defense than we’ve seen in the very static fighting in the Donbass.⬇️
They’re not trying to stop Ukrainian drives at the screen line like we saw in the Hundred Days, they’re instead diverting them into engagement areas between their front line of screening troops and the main defensive line 5-10km to the rear and destroying them there. Ergo why we’ve seen Ukrainian units just go on these long runs in the last couple days – way past where the front line should be – and then get wiped out in what look like complex ambushes. That’s… actually just how you do a very normal area defense.
Why have the Russians changed tactics? Two reasons. First, in Kursk they – paradoxically – have space to fight. The Donbass is a cramped theater where real estate is at an absolute premium. They’re either backing up into the sea, key lines of communication, or critical urban areas there. There’s actual operational space in rural Kursk.* Second and relatedly, the “forward” defense we’re used to seeing in the Donbass will not inflict crippling casualties on an attacker quickly for the simple reason that attacks often fail in the “cone of fire” in no man’s land or even behind the attacker’s front line, allowing defeated units to easily withdraw. In a conventional defense the attacker is defeated in a kill zone behind the screen line and it is far easier to annihilate an attacking force. Ergo why we’re now seeing huge AFU equipment losses, with entire Ukrainian companies burning out behind the ostensible Russian “front.”
Having found themselves in battle with the AFU’s strategic reserves, the Russians now very much intend to use the Battle of Sudzha-Korenevo to destroy as much of those reserves as possible. Even if that means scaring some war mappers on the internet.
* I remind the reader that, de jure, there’s no difference between Kursk (or any other part of pre-2014 Russia) and the Novorossiyan oblasts in the eyes of the Russian government right now.
https://x.com/ArmchairW/status/1823153110379798958

I think the initial Nato attack was able to take Russia by surprise as widely dispersed forces were quickly pulled into the attack but Russia soon put a plan together and also a retired general or something specifically in charge of the Kursk sector and the overall operation there. Still heavy attacks in lower right sector of that front by Nato to widen the flanks but those sort of attacks will be taking heavy losses.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 8:42 utc | 301

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 8:42 utc | 302
It’s possible RUAF is using a similar ‘funneling’ method as they used during the 2023 counter-offensive. Since AFU was unable to get to Rabotyne, they started funneling their AFV groups through the field east of it trying to bypass it. This is what became the kill zone, for which the ‘Bradley Square’ also got its name.
RUAF has some room to maneuver and play with, AFU has in the past (and currently) shown tendency to try to move around strong points. As such, RUAF can use this to form strong points which they actually want AFU to try to bypass, only diverting them further away from any critical areas/giving them a path to some designated kill zone.
Too bad they seems to finally have gotten Sudzha, but the supply is still a weak spot. Everything is more or less coming through a single road, and drones can make that the road of death.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 8:49 utc | 302

The AFU supply road from Sumy must be screaming of pain.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 8:51 utc | 303

Too bad they seems to finally have gotten Sudzha, but the supply is still a weak spot. Everything is more or less coming through a single road, and drones can make that the road of death.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 8:49 utc | 303
Yes, Sudzha is seen as a propaganda point for the comedian, but the Russians don’t work to optics and with civilians evacuated, they now have room to move and as you say, set up those kill zones.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 8:54 utc | 304

“Stopped” might be slightly overdoing it.AFAIK they are evacuating civilians from new areas.
“Despite some further successes, it can be stated that the enemy’s offensive is clearly stalling.”
https://t.me/llordofwar/366828
If it’s true that the target was the Kursk NPP, then it’s a defeat for Ukraine, unless they can make the price of regaining the territory (plus restoration, fixing the gas measuring station etc) considerably greater than the costs of taking it. They do seemingly have over a thousand Russian prisoners, who (along with the dead and injured) have families.
But in propaganda terms, and half this war is propaganda aimed at maintaining Western support it’s a boost for Ukraine. Fewer and fewer may watch TV, but those who do will have seen the videos of troops in Sudzha.
It’s still a valid question as to how this was arranged with seemingly no clues given – that’s why I was asking about satellite coverage yesterday.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 13 2024 8:57 utc | 305

YetAnotherAnon | Aug 13 2024 8:57 utc | 306
Cut your shit. You are just another troll spruiking for Nato.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 9:01 utc | 306

Wagner is back and F’ing up the AFU, who tries to use Wagner tactics.

Morale is through the roof, according to the ones I talk to. Apparently they’ve been extremely successful, especially since the Ukrainians are copying Wagner attack tactics, so the Wagner soldiers know where the ‘flower’ will bloom from and be able to snip the stem before the bloom.
https://x.com/MarkHAnderson59/status/1823281959810036176

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 9:06 utc | 307

Wow that’s a lot of comments in a day – maybe read later.
she-lenski is a whore and does whatever he is paid to do – no matter how degrading or vile.
He is run by us Brits – The Great Gamers on behalf of the ziofascist masters.
This is the natzos putting themselves into the position of having to put their money where their mouth is. Or more directly – having whined about how the Ukrops were not fighting accordingly to the natzo standards that has led to the regular failure.
So – go on then not just train & equip but have full command and control the Boys Own WW2 fantasy raid by a small force – force 10, guns of Navarone, Tobruck.. all the way to the Hollywood Kelly’s Heroes!
It very much seems like that kind of ‘Hail Mary’ trope beloved by Hollywood even against superior alien space invaders!
What could it achieve beyond Toto disaster?
If it’s primary task suceeded – it would have been the bloody battle over a nuclear power plant as a negotiating tool in the inevitable surrender terms.
If that didn’t succeed ,then a memory of a new spectacular charge into the valley of death – hell they even used the same unit names as ww2 Nazis!
Creating a new myth to work and rework over generations where dumb defeat turns into some Spartan memory.
Thirdly an attempt to force a Big Arrow move by the RF to chomp the tasty bait of a a very large cauldron deeper into Ukraine – where there are long planned defences and traps for an extended RF.
Because it’s that restraint , that rope-a-dope which has kept the natzos master plan from day one from being achieved – an extended deep front line, easily threatened with its long supply lines and the ‘tigerish’ Special Forces hunting behind the front lines – so beloved of natzo western filmic fantasy win against odds by being sneaky!!
Movies are made after real life wins and defeats. Not vice versa.
In case of abject failure it would be the narrative that it was the mad sypphilitic whore shelensky that went off piste and destroyed himself and his nation just like Hitler did!
He’ll have to disappear so that story can’t ever be contradicted.
A bit like Zaluzny, long disappeared – not much seen actually since his supposed demise months before he was supposedly giving interviews to the …. Economist!
Strange how that magazine seems to have all the scoops with the disappearing faces of the banderist ukropia and its to the last one of their mince meat. Who is it that owns and runs them??
The ultimate fall back beyond that myth making of a Magnificient 7 type heroes annihilation is the 3 million – THREE – graveyards that will be visible from space and will become the enduring monument to Russophobia to make another attempt with some more deluded Nazio controlled proxies in several generations. And we are only at a million so far!
You see, THEY never admit defeat and give up their ancient goals; they have no reverse gear, and since they don’t put any ‘skin in the game’ – history keeps repeating!
How does the cycle ever break? By the annihilation of the dynastic powers flowing through the centuries with the blood of the hundreds of millions on their hands. The string pullers behind Starmztrooper and Biden. The oligarchs Musk and Gates and the latest Palantir ‘one ring to rule them all ‘ setup.
Their Mum.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 13 2024 9:16 utc | 308

About Starlink
Almost every Ukrainian Armed Forces vehicle has a Starlink satellite Internet kit. The main or backup communication and control system is probably connected to these systems. Through satellite Internet, enemy soldiers not only receive orders, but also, most importantly, receive information about the situation. Coordination of equipment operation is significantly simplified with the availability of suitable software.
But something went wrong. Starlink does not work in the Kursk region and in the border area of ​​Sumy. At all.
We find boxes with Starlink in almost every IFV or armored vehicle of the Ukrainian Armed Forces; it is unpacked but not configured.

https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1823280304246681844

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 9:46 utc | 309

Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 9:01 utc | 307
Go and boil your head. I’m confident Russia will win this war, but I’d like them to take the quickest route.
Svechin was two years younger than Vorotyntsev, but it was impossible to tell this from his manner of speaking, “Fine — except that there will be a bunch of thickheaded fools above you, hindering you at every step. They’ll give you idiotic orders, you’U have to carry them out and you’ll pay for it in soldiers’ lives. You’ll end by sending me a telegram at General Headquarters begging me to save you from these imbeciles and get you out of an impossible position! No, my dear fellow, the people who get things done around here are not the rebels but the doers. They go about it discreetly and they don’t make a lot of fuss, but they get things done. For instance, if in one day I manage to alter a couple of stupid orders so that they make sense, and by doing so justify a decision made by a brave regimental commander or save a battalion of sappers from being needlessly sent to their deaths, then I reckon my day hasn’t been wasted. And with you working alongside me, we could probably see to it that two more orders were redrafted on the right lines — perhaps even four! It’s senseless to try to fight the authorities; the way to deal with them is to steer them discreetly in the right direction. You can be more use to Russia here than anywhere else. If you get yourself kicked out of headquarters they’ll simply send in someone else worse. Why let that happen?
Solzhenitsyn, August 1914 – he was a Red Army artillery captain.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 13 2024 10:02 utc | 310

Lots of speculation these are NATO troops, but are Western troops really ready to die in what is essentially a suicide mission? Mercenaries take risks, but they are primarily motivated by money, which they plan to leave with and spend back home. They are not suicidal.

Posted by: Glasshopper | Aug 13 2024 10:03 utc | 311

As I predicted at the beginning of the play, the game is coming to an end; now it will take 2 days for each brigade involved to wipe out every organized attack; only a couple of hundred desperate people will remain, wandering around the woods trying to do some damage. Now the expeditionary force resembles a wild cat that has gotten itself into a sack and realizes that the way out is closing, it scratches here and there with desperation that increases more and more every day.

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 13 2024 10:19 utc | 312

truth or fake news?
Ukrainians Seized 1000 Sq Km🚨 Russians Accelerate Towards Pokrovsk⚔️ Military Summary For 2024.08.13

Posted by: guest from franconia | Aug 13 2024 10:26 utc | 313

YetAnotherAnon | Aug 13 2024 10:02 utc | 311
Piss off troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 10:30 utc | 314

Glasshopper @ 312

Lots of speculation these are NATO troops, but are Western troops really ready to die in what is essentially a suicide mission? Mercenaries take risks, but they are primarily motivated by money, which they plan to leave with and spend back home. They are not suicidal.

The Putin admin will never ever do it, maybe they have high value in trades or negotiations, but all the captured non Ukrainian fighters found on traditional Russian land should be hung in Red Sq. on scaffolds in the same place as the ones of 1945. Without fanfare or gloating, but images broadcast around the world. Not at the end of the war but at the end of the Kursk incursion. Medvedev are you reading this? Send a memo a Vlad.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 13 2024 10:32 utc | 315

SIMPLICIUS Ѱ
@simpatico771
⚡️🇷🇺Full video of the defeat of Ukrainian armor column in Kursk:
Destroyed in one day:
– 7 x BTR-4 “Bucephalus”
– 1 x BTR-4 “Bucephalus” – trophy
– 1 x M113 APC
– 1 x Pickup
– l/s up to 50

https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1823291064251236761
An interesting video at the link. Previously, all video I have seen of drone strikes – the video feed cut out at about the tree line. Now there is continuous and clear video feedback right until the drone strikes even amongst trees.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 10:33 utc | 316

Over extended Ukrainian 80th airborne assault brigade troops captured in Kursk region. The thing is losing steam through a thousand cuts – supply, increased resistance-in-depth, non-functioning Starlink communications, massive RUAF bombing etc.
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1823291774011400618

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 10:36 utc | 317

unimperator | Aug 13 2024 10:36 utc | 318
I read somewhere, either today or yesterday that Russia now has a large superiority in drones.
And going by the video feed I linked, they are very much upgraded.
The Nato forces appear to have expended their drone supply in the first few days.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 10:45 utc | 318

Russian Defence Ministry reports that Su-34s are being used to deliver gliding bombs onto Ukrainian positions: https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12524914@egNews

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 13 2024 10:46 utc | 319

What a waste of young men that died for nothing. Husbands, sons, fathers all used by Black Rock and the likes to make money off this evil war.

Posted by: Fortuna | Aug 13 2024 10:48 utc | 320

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But there are videos of Ukie troops wandering around villages apparently un-bothered by drones at all. Unless these are fake videos? Quite possible.

Posted by: Glasshopper | Aug 13 2024 10:50 utc | 321

🤬🇷🇺🇺🇦 On the problems of coordination in the Kursk direction
We explain the overly emotional appeal of comrades from the channel Revenge of Good Will.
▪️The Kursk direction is now being filled with units from different types and branches of the military, which are subordinate to various groups and commands. “Fire brigades” arrive in an accelerated manner, in these cases the bureaucratic gears of the RF Armed Forces are somewhat, ahem, slow and creaking.
▪️You don’t have to look for an example: one of the special forces of the Russian army, sent to eliminate the operational crisis in Martynovka and Sudzha, encountered on the way… the military police, who tried for a long time and tediously to check the documents of people who were going to liberate the territories.
▪️Due to communication failures for both objective (enemy electronic warfare) and subjective reasons, neighbors on the right and left often do not know each other, do not know who to turn to in order to cover the flanks. Because of this, the integrity of the front is lost, and enemy sabotage and reconnaissance groups break through (the night entry into the Belovsky district is clear evidence of this).
▪️In the conditions of a counter-terrorist operation, organizing horizontal communications without unnecessary bureaucracy is the key to the survivability of troops and the effectiveness of their work. No one wants our own units to suffer from friendly fire? Everyone is on edge, such an outcome, alas, is not zero.
▪️Without establishing horizontal communications, debugging the combat control and communications system, it is very difficult to operate effectively in the Russian borderland. Why overcome again if problems can simply be avoided?
❗️In general, what is happening in the Kursk direction was a stress test of all the RF Armed Forces for the ability to act in a crisis situation, and it remains so. We have already said that it is necessary to draw conclusions and take into account mistakes. Now, alas, we are patching holes, and not correcting the approach.

https://t.me/rybar/62668

🇷🇺🇺🇦 The appointment of Alexei Dyumin as a senior official with a full range of powers to resolve the operational crisis in the Kursk region is a sign that the security forces have been unable to resolve the coordination problems on their own and without intervention from Moscow.
We partially spoke about this problem two days ago. If we take into account the fact that such problems exist in the Russian Ministry of Defense, one can only imagine the scale of this in the context of interdepartmental cooperation.
Dyumin’s appointment is Putin’s team taking full control of the situation in order to stop the window dressing and also to start solving the problem, rather than trying to freeze it.
📌And what is happening is the best answer to what is the real role and tasks of Alexey Dyumin in the new system of the Russian Federation after the May inauguration. Apparently, he will now be a specialist in solving operational tasks, as well as resolving problems of coordination, combat and civil management.
I remember that Dyumin was tipped for the post of Minister of Defense. Well, in fact, he got much broader powers.

https://t.me/two_majors/29527

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 10:52 utc | 322

RKM
@rkmtimes
BREAKING ⚡🚨#Russia may send more troops to Iraq and Syria to directly Attack American forces amid Rising #NATO Mercenaries in invading Kursk region.
🚨 #Russia to Attack American troops in Syria and Iraq.
https://x.com/rkmtimes/status/1823226908714106974

Posted by: Menz | Aug 13 2024 10:53 utc | 323

Understandably Lukashenko doesnt want to send Belarussian troops to Ukraine, nonetheless, Vitebsk paras could give a hand in Russia, say between Martinovka and Sudja?

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Aug 13 2024 10:54 utc | 324

“Warming up” of society continues: the age for mobilization in Ukraine should be 20-50 years.
“Everything beyond that is at your own request, but not to combat units. If we want to normally provide combat units with healthy people who can normally perform combat missions, then it should be 20-50,” said the Secretary of the Defense Committee, MP Kostenko (Voice).
He confirmed that the issue of lowering the mobilization age is being raised by Western partners.
For our part, we note that mobilization in Ukraine will definitely extend to young people – first up to 21 years old, then up to 18 years old. This topic is being carefully tested in expert circles, and the Americans are increasingly insistently recommending this.

https://t.me/MediaKiller2021/13866

Speakers and LOMs continue to pump up the tightening of mobilization to 18/20 years.
Everyone should understand a simple truth – they are constantly lowering the age not because of a good situation, but on the contrary, everything is very sad and if they do not lower it, then everything will end for the current government. Of course, it is easier for them to drive a couple more million Ukrainians into the graves, but the main thing is to sit at the trough as long as possible.
The West also benefits from lowering the mobilization age, since they will call up even more infantry, who will cover the deficit in heavy equipment and weapons with their lives, which the West stops providing.
Our advice: flee the country.

https://t.me/legitimniy/18523

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 10:55 utc | 325

@ Menz | Aug 13 2024 10:53 utc | 324
Breaking news: stuff might happen! Also, it might not! What’s a “source”?

Posted by: boneless | Aug 13 2024 10:55 utc | 326

Guardian, no friend of Russia:
“Ukraine is restricting the movement of civilians within a 20 km (12 mile) zone in a north-eastern region bordering Russia, Kyiv’s general staff said on Tuesday, as its troops push further into Russian territory amid a week-old surprise offensive. The measure, applying to parts of the Sumy region bordering Russia’s Kursk, was needed due to an “increase in the intensity of hostilities” and the activation of Russian sabotage and reconnaissance groups in the area, it said. “The military command imposed restrictions on the movement of all categories of citizens in the twenty-kilometre border zone of the Sumy region,” it said in a statement on social media, Reuters reported. The general staff added that the measure was temporary and that residents of the newly restricted area could still access their homes by showing proof of registration.”

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 13 2024 10:55 utc | 327

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 6:38 utc | 285
Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 7:30 utc | 290
Great news items on Aleksey Dyumin, real substance.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 13 2024 10:56 utc | 328

But there are videos of Ukie troops wandering around villages apparently un-bothered by drones at all. Unless these are fake videos? Quite possible.
Posted by: Glasshopper | Aug 13 2024 10:50 utc | 322

There is a massive amount of fake AFU videos floating around. A lot of them involve fake village signs or directions.
Most of them were made to juice up the hysteria during the first few days when mobile recon groups were roaming freely a dozer or two dozen kilometers across the border, but not anymore.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 10:57 utc | 329

Fortuna | Aug 13 2024 10:48 utc | 321
This how easy it is to take people to war, to take them to their own destruction.

“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don’t want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.
Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
― Hermann Goering, Germany Reborn

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 10:57 utc | 330

All of this noise coming from Sumy & Kursk oblasts needs to be examined in light of STATED objectives of each side
So first, objectives of NATO:
1. Create condition requiring Russia to negotiate immediately- via capture of Kursk NPP. Complete FAIL
2. Media / PR Bullshit Propaganda Storm to keep Banderites fighting and Western Sheeple emptying their wallets. I’d say successful, so far…
3. Confuse Russian People and force Putin from office. Complete FAIL.
Now to Russian objectives:
1. De-militarization of Ukraine. Accelerated by VSU “Kursk Adventure”
2. Dissolution of NATO . Advanced by stupid Ukie decision to shut off fuel to Hungary, Slovakia, etc.
3. Dis-armament of the USA. Accelerated by having US send additional weapons to 404 to support this nonsense, killing of American mercs and cadre military forces . Both hardware and people are not easily replaceable.
4. De-Nazification of Banderistan. We’ll have to wait and see – Might require Russian capture of Manitoba, Saskatchewan, & Alberta 😇
5. Economic collapse of USA & G7 via de-dollarization. Advancing apace.
Only geniuses like Mika Brezinski and Joe Scarborough are Dumb enough to believe Foggy Bottom bullshit.
Who knows, maybe ol’ Chuckie and his stable-hand paramour will have to sign agreement of perpetual vassalage to RF. One can dream. Slava Rossija! Smert Fasistu.

Posted by: OldFart | Aug 13 2024 10:58 utc | 331

“Ukraine marks 10-year anniversary of Maidan ‘Revolution of Dignity’”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vIjJZEFjWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAogk_0XbCY

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 11:05 utc | 332

But the gas keeps flowing to Europe and not even are ambassadors recalled from NATO countries, much less diplomatic relations broken with them even though the Russian leadership over and over says they are in a state of war with NATO (notice the date on that article by the way – February 2023). Absolutely pathetic.
Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 12 2024 21:53 utc | 155
I don’t think you understand how this works.
Sanctions are supposed to deny Russia from revenue.
Europe PAYS Russia for the gas coming through the pipelines. Why would Russia cut off a source of revenue? Russians invested in those pipelines and LNG terminals … it’s a money hose when it’s working but shut it down and it’s waste of money so why would they shut it down?
This is the same reason the Ukrainians won’t shut down the pipelines even though it’s a source of Russian revenue … the EU pays them for gas transit.
As far as kicking out diplomats it’s just a symbolic gesture that shoots yourself in the foot because it then makes things like prisoner exchanges and deconfliction difficult. When you have nuclear weapons 20 minutes flight time from your capital it’s a good idea to have someone to talk to not only for those in Moscow but also London, Paris and Berlin.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 13 2024 11:09 utc | 333

YetAnotherAnon | Aug 13 2024 10:02 utc | 311
Apologies for that. There’s a few anon’s. There’s another clown constantly posts garbage.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 11:13 utc | 334

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 13 2024 11:09 utc | 334
Ultimately, the disruption of the gas pipe will not put any dent or will even put more Roubles into Russian coffers. Why? Because the market price for gas in EUrostan will go up, and they will buy more LNG from China, who bought NG from Russia…
The British shot both the EU and themselves in the foot in the sense that when EUrostan pays more for gas, they will have even less money to buy arms. Or they can, but they will be cutting more social benefits and end up in a similar scenario as in Southport UK, or London or Manchester with ethnic rioting.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 11:14 utc | 335

Grasshopper: ”They [NATO meat] are not suicidal.”
No, but they are stupid and brainwashed. They are fools who think they are on safari to kill Russians. They are ”Exceptionals” from the shit-encrusted ”shining city” and the queef-scented ”Garden” out to win glory collecting souvenir heads of primitive Rooskies.
The ignorant fools believe their own mass media presstitutes. Like I said, they are stupid; profoundly so.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 13 2024 11:15 utc | 336

@ Peter AO 1
we can see that you are extremely desperate. call a doctor in time before you collapse.

Posted by: guest from franconia | Aug 13 2024 11:19 utc | 337

About the only difference I have seen is a lessening of glide bombs on the eastern front, which are now heavily used in Sumy/Kursk.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 4:18 utc | 266
That seems to have worked, one objective for AFU I mentioned was the diversion of FABs (used for advancing) and Iskanders (used for sanitizing airfields) .
As someone mentioned my posts are sometimes a bit chaotic and top of mind. Your exchange with the other N … I got a feeling of a chat bot. Nicely done.
@downsouth, thanks for all the updates
@whoever posted the English warning on avoiding a lid on the cauldron, interesting that it is being pointed out as a serious risk. Why publicly ? Maybe Kiev is not listening to private warnings?
P.S. I noticed that things got quieter here during European night, less noise, might be a sign confirming that it’s mi6 not cia.
The chaotic Newbie that maybe was never worth reading but that’s what you all got these last years

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 13 2024 11:20 utc | 338

guest from franconia | Aug 13 2024 11:19 utc | 338
Now you are a troll. Popping up for the mighty nato offensive, working overtime in a nato troll factory.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 11:21 utc | 339

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 13 2024 11:09 utc | 334

You are trying to talk sence to a liar, who deliberately misquotes Lavrov to distorts the truth. Lavrov said that at Ukraine NATO fights with Russia, and that does not equal that Russia is in the state of war with NATO. The troll knows that but lies deliberately to push his point.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 13 2024 11:23 utc | 340

I`ve learnt that one must differenciate between “Tactics” and “Strategy”. The Strategy of “the WEST” was undoubtfull to conquer Russia. Reason was to rescue the financial System. To get Russia with its enormous ressources would have buy the system another decades. And would have made the way clear to plunder ROW and – China in Future. That was the Strategy behind, but it failed totally.
– Russia didn`t collapsed, but in opposite it gained wealth, common sense in the population and they have fought their traitors.
– Moreover, the ROW is more and more convinced that the better part for them are the BRICS+, instead of lying West.
– The undeclared war western mad billionaires are fighting against the western citizens (WEF, clima etc..) becomes more and more nasty because people are angry with their “elected government” (-> puppets) and do not have any desire to fight for that rat pack.
So – the war is lost for the West.
What we saw now in Kursk and all the month before was pure TACTICS. You kill my tank, I kill your bridge. And so on.
But the outcome of the whole war is pretty clear, isn`t it?

Posted by: ableman | Aug 13 2024 11:25 utc | 341

Posted by: Glasshopper | Aug 13 2024 10:50 utc | 322
What is the meaning to wander around villages with nothing to hit but civilians?
It’s very easy to break through an un defended rural border but does this make sense, provided that most of the attackers will soon die or, if lucky, go back to the starting point?

Posted by: Mario | Aug 13 2024 11:26 utc | 342

I’m the only YetAnotherAnon, I think.
Just because I don’t think Odessa (or indeed Pokrovsk) will fall this week doesn’t make me a troll. Cheers anyway

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 13 2024 11:27 utc | 343

YetAnotherAnon | Aug 13 2024 11:27 utc | 344
Nah. I had a stinking histamine headache, similar to a migraine. I got that under control and realized I had stuffed up bigtime. Anonymous or something like that is the clown I was thinking of.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 11:31 utc | 344

Kursk battle was the turning point for Hitler’s Nazis, and will be the turning point for the Jewish Nazi Zelenski. One day, the Ukrainians would say, why did they choose a Jew as their president. And, that a Jew had finished Ukraine.

Posted by: Ostro | Aug 13 2024 11:37 utc | 345

Posted by: Mike R | Aug 12 2024 18:59 utc | 45

It was planned as a suicide mission to seize the Kursk NPP. Still suicidal if they had achieved that because there is no way they could have kept a functioning supply line open. Success and they could have caused a lot of problems. Having failed their objective, it is now just a suicide mission. Supply lines will be cut and units that don’t surrender will be destroyed….

Having an entire power plant taken offline would be a large loss for Russia, and therefore would be a win for Ukraine. It would also make a strong bargaining chip regarding the custody of the Zaporizhzhia NPP.

Posted by: robin | Aug 13 2024 11:44 utc | 346

Russia has listed Kolomoysky as an extremist and terrorist and seized his assets. It was Kolomoysky that promoted/backed Zelensky to President.
https://x.com/ivan_8848/status/1823290523391545837

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 11:56 utc | 347

mirko. Los carteles tienen permiso especial para entrar a USA. Su producto es vital para la economia Estadounidense. Sin el producto la sociedad estadounidense colapsaria. Ni walt Street funcionaria.
Posted by: Manuel V | Aug 13 2024 7:18 utc | 289

“Los Carteles” son CIA /are CIA.

Posted by: Greg Galloway | Aug 13 2024 11:58 utc | 348

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 8:54 utc | 305
Sudzha had to be taken during phase one, because
1. They could have threatened the forces defending the eastern shoulder of the breach, thereby widening it. Critical if you are going to expand the perimeter of the incursion
2. It provided a supply hub and access to a larger road net. The ones they are using are incapable of supporting the forces they have deployed. A mechanised battalion takes up 1.5km+ of road, more if in dispersed mode and consumes logistics at a frightening rate. Then you have the supply columns, rear support etc all crowding behind. If the Ukrainians used one lane roads or tracks then exceptionally good traffic management is required to stop outward and inward columns meeting.
3. CAS’s absolute favourite target is a stopped column of vehicles, because they kill the first few, kill the rear few and feast on the remainder. If TAC Air can coordinate with the artillery then remote mines can be used to seed the flanks of any stopped column, act as a barrier, or target the ‘leakers’ as they abandon their vehicles. An entire column can be destroyed in minutes, with any survivors suddenly becoming under-supplied light infantry, mech infantry live off their vehicles, and their TO&E (Table of Organisation and Equipment) reflects that fact. Belt kit v’s backpack, means units with little ability to resist more than a few assaults.
The defenders of Sudzha saved Russia from a far worse situation, just like the para-military police saved the day in ‘22. If the Ukrainians were really using the ‘22 playbook as a guide (many problems with that, and reinforces the impression this was a home-grown affair) then they should have factored in unexpected resistance to their ambitious time-table.
As to your comments re: the cordon and search operation there are a number of ways. The most likely is the beater and hunters method, but yes, once each grid is cleared it will be occupied. Ironically the same thing the Germans did after pocketing the Russians, in WW2, hopefully they’ve learned since then because they never had the successes the Germans had with these reduction operations. ISR will help greatly in the task, so expect to see footage of stragglers surrendering.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 10:36 utc | 318
Heirs to Popov, in ‘43, or or 2nd Panzer in ‘44.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 13 2024 12:02 utc | 349

BREAKING: There is most likely a “dirty” bomb in Ukraine, said the head of the NBC protection troops Igor Kirillov in the Zvezda studio at the Army-2024 forum.
“A ‘dirty’ bomb… well, we won’t reveal any secrets. It’s not that difficult, really. I think they have one,” Kirillov said.
He also stressed that the enemy used toxic substances that could only have been synthesized in the United States, because other industries are not designed for this. All of Russia’s concerns have been forwarded to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, but there has been no response yet. https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1823308915276189988

A way to use the dirty bomb or bombs if they have them would be to hit the ZNPP with something then use the dirty bombs at the same time.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 12:05 utc | 350

314. Ukr seized ,1000km etc
Western press say in control of…whereas the vids of the kursk convoy posted seem to suggest Ukraine military is hiding away in forestry occasionally making a mad dash perhaps to another hiding place….but the lancets etc get them all…..ukr is in the area but definitely not on possession nor control.A miniscule area cf rest of the oblast.

Posted by: Jo | Aug 13 2024 12:06 utc | 351

Milites | Aug 13 2024 12:02 utc | 350
I guess at some point, videos of that road will start coming out. Might well be another ‘road of death’

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 12:10 utc | 352

From the TwitterX link Peter AU1 posted @348: “Kolomoysky was the one of the notorious Azov neo-Nazi battalion’s main sponsors.”
Ignorant western sheep: “Baa… baa… but how? He’s a Jew!” [heads explode as they notice the commingled Nazi and Jew symbolism on his shirt].

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 13 2024 12:20 utc | 353

A little off topic for this thread but seems a good place for it.

Georgia officially declared Saakashvili guilty of unleashing the war on 08.08.08.
That is, it is no longer aggressive Russian imperialism that is guilty, but Saakashvili and his regime, pushed from outside, who “committed a treacherous crime against the country and the people.” Another step toward normalizing relations with Russia.
Statement by the political council of the ruling party “Georgian Dream – Democratic Georgia”:
“The majority of Georgian society rightly doubts Saakashvili’s adequacy. However, the fact is that in August 2008, Saakashvili’s adventurous actions were not the result of his mental instability, but the result of instructions from outside and a well-planned betrayal. In order to establish long-term peace and stability in the country, it is vital to organize a public legal process so that society will know once and for all who committed a treacherous crime against our country and people.”

https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1823274955133317578

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 12:26 utc | 354

The Kremlin decided not to transfer forces from Ukraine to the Kursk region, but to use units of the GRU and FSB together with army units from the Moscow and Leningrad military districts, as well as partly from the Central Military District.
The Russian army will continue the offensive campaign in the east of Ukraine and will not slow down, while creating a sanitary zone in the Sumy region upon completion of the cleansing of the occupied territories of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kursk region.

https://t.me/Taynaya_kantselyariya/10832

Contrary to the strategic plan of Zelensky and Yermak’s operation in the Kursk region, Russia will not transfer forces there from the front.
As is known, one of Zelensky’s key military tasks was to stop the Russian offensive in Donbas. According to his plans, advances in the Kursk region and other border regions will force the Kremlin to throw all its forces into containing the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
However, Russian insider channels believe that this is not the case. Moreover, we ourselves can observe the continuation of the enemy’s offensive actions in Donbas.
If the Russians manage to knock the Ukrainian Armed Forces out of the Kursk region and at the same time maintain the initiative in Donbas, this threatens to become a disaster for Ukraine and increases the risk of the collapse of the front and fighting spirit.

https://t.me/legitimniy/18524

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 12:33 utc | 355

Today, everyone will be looking for an opportunity to quickly meet with Alexey Dyumin and report the situation first: Vladimir Putin wants to know on which circuits he was deceived.
In February 2023, former vice-speaker Andrey Turchak came to inspect Governor Roman Starovoit, who by his decision endorsed the readiness of equipping the Russian-Ukrainian border with a fortification system.
In addition, it is unclear what decision was made regarding the commander of the North Group of Forces, Colonel General Lapin, and why the Chief of the General Staff of the Ground Forces, Colonel General Nikiforov, was sent to Kursk.
It is obvious that Alexey Dyumin’s report to the President will be decisive and will determine the future fate of a number of high-ranking officials.

https://t.me/two_majors/29531

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 12:36 utc | 356

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 12:33 utc | 356

Ukraine failed to achieve the main goal of the Kursk adventure – to force the Kremlin to transfer reserves from Donbass.
The main thing for Zelensky now is to hold out in the Kursk region as long as possible. We have long lost the offensive initiative on the front and are only losing territory. Therefore, this should be compensated for by bright attacks on the border territories of Russia, but having entered the Kursk region and publicly declared this, we now cannot simply leave our positions and retreat back.
The Kremlin will gradually squeeze the Ukrainian Armed Forces out of the Kursk region, while maintaining the pace of the offensive in the Donbass. Together, these two processes will lead to a military stalemate for Ukraine. Moreover, given Moscow’s plans to expand the “sanitary zone”, we may lose additional territory in the Sumy region.
According to Russian TG channels, the military-political leadership of Russia perceived the invasion of the Kursk region as another round of escalation of the conflict. Therefore, any initiatives for peace talks will be frozen until the situation “on the ground” meets the interests of the Kremlin.
Moscow is developing various scenarios for continuing the conflict, up to and including its prolongation until 2027-2030 (it is expected that Taiwan may flare up during this period). Moreover, the invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces into the Kursk region may be used in the future for a “patriotic upsurge”.
Putin has long been ruling Russia as a besieged fortress. The greater the pressure on Moscow, the easier it is for him to prove to the Russians the hostility of the outside world and legitimize his power. So Kyiv’s interventions, devoid of military logic, only strengthen the position of the Russian leader, rather than weaken it.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/23863

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 12:39 utc | 357

Greg Galloway @ 325

Understandably Lukashenko doesnt want to send Belarussian troops to Ukraine, nonetheless, Vitebsk paras could give a hand in Russia, say between Martinovka and Sudja?

Very understandably, Lukashenko has his hands tied, Belarus entering Ukraine would instantly end the still mutual SMO conceit and justify other EU nations or NATO itself openly entering Ukraine. The Belarus army would probably get its ass kicked by what are at this point seasoned AFU and Merc forces, hopefully Belarus has been quietly rotating a part of their troops and commanders in theater as PMCs to season the Belarus military. Any green troops from anywhere entering the theater at this point are going to get seriously fucked when they encounter either AFU or RF troops.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 13 2024 12:40 utc | 358

There is a lack of low cost precision fire support, especially laser corrected fire, though, at the present time, deployable laser designator platforms are themselves rare.
https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16892

One of the most important factors in both offensive and defense is a competent fire defeat. Unfortunately, this problem is rarely written about and mainly couch housebed bloggers like me do it, but it is the fire defeat that is the basis of success.
It consists of three things: reconnaissance, the correct assignment of forces and means, reaction speed and accuracy of fire, for example. Your aerial reconnaissance records the movement of the enemy column, leads it to the place of stop, all this time transmitting data about the nature of the target and its location. The target, (as a hypothetical example) twenty pieces of tanks, BBM and cars and she (the target) enters the forest regiment. But instead of hitting this target with a combined blow of the full Tornado-C package (cassette and high-explosive missiles), you crate the eggs for an hour and a half and then hit a couple of Hurricane cluster missiles. As a result, the paint is slightly scratched on the armored vehicle, and several enemy fighters are scared. The armored vehicles are leaving, now they will have to be caught again. In this case, if you have nothing to shoot, it is better not to shoot at all, but to wait while monitoring.
The notorious HAND still remains not the strongest feature of our armed forces and it is this flaw that must be corrected immediately. As for the artillery, it is necessary to remove such a norm that a 152 mm projectile that fell within a radius of 50 meters from the target is considered to have hit this target. This is absolutely not the case and even a 10-meter deviation is not a guarantee of destruction, especially when it comes to armored vehicles or artillery.
Our aerial reconnaissance gives an almost complete picture. We see the movement of the enemy, its accumulation in one place or another, it remains to tighten the fire defeat itself and then the enemy’s losses will increase significantly. As for the economy. Here you have a not very accurate, but expensive missile, it costs, for example, 25 million rubles, but you can guarantee a hit only if (and then not 100 percent) if after a shooting shot, a volley will be fired from (again, for example) in 6 missiles. So that’s exactly how you need to shoot, and not let one missile pass by, relying on the high cost of it. It is better to spend 150 million in one volley and destroy the target than to spend the same money and not get anywhere, saving missiles and launching them one by one. We need a different, new approach to fire defeat, if you want, then a new philosophy of destroying the enemy and everything will be fine.

https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16899

I’ll repeat. The main problem of the Kursk direction remains not even the number of Khokhl troops, but the discrepancy between the capabilities of our fire defeat, our own intelligence. We see almost everything, but the normal fire damage circuit has not yet been built as necessary. Another thing is pleasing, at the horizontal level, the old comrades-in-arms have already established everything or are at the final stage of this process and the result will not be long in coming.

https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16893

A very good video that shows the enemy’s tactics. A small armored group tries to jump in, if it meets a normal rebuff, it either leaves or dies. On MAPP Kolotilovka from the very morning the enemy acted in this way, plus he was supported by the tank. I don’t know if he was hit in the end or he managed to hide in the forest, but a dozen Khokhlovs who reached MAPP in the morning, of course, did not break through anywhere.
As for the evacuation of settlements of the Krasnoyaruzhsky district and closing it for civilian visits, it should have been done a long time ago and it is also necessary to deal with other border areas. To pretend that everything is good when you have thousands of enemy soldiers several kilometers away is a very duby complacency, but to calmly accept that until the enemy is defeated and destroyed, and therefore it is necessary to make adjustments to your usual life, means to find harmony. And this applies not only to the inhabitants of the border territories, but to the entire population of holy and eternal Russia.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 13 2024 12:47 utc | 359

BTW Russian-Italian TG Youtuber Nicolai Lilin hazarded a guess that the strike on the NPP could be to freeze the conflict and force a desperate truce to contain a Chernobyl, giving Ukraine and NATO 2-3ys to regroup and rebuild. Bit drastic but it’s about the only thing I’ve seen that makes any sense, if 404’s crazier actions must make sense.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 13 2024 12:48 utc | 360

So all of this just ends up in another Russian meat grinder while the Ukie leadership desperately attempts to hold onto their meagre gains by feeding the meat grinder. All the while at Pokrovsk and Toretsk/Niu York the Ukrainian front is collapsing. The sheer glee shown by some Western leaders has also exposed even more the ugliness hidden behind the masks.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 13 2024 12:48 utc | 361

Some newspaper just reported that Ukraine “isn’t interested in holding its occupied territories much longer” lol so it’s not going their way for sure

Posted by: Avtonom | Aug 13 2024 12:54 utc | 362

However one of the most deeply disturbing things about the whole SMO imo is how practically every news organization in the West believes absolutely everything, however wild, that comes from the Ukraine (and US) propaganda machines. Even after repeatedly having been outed as blatant liars. They get away with anything.

Posted by: Avtonom | Aug 13 2024 13:00 utc | 363

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 13 2024 12:40 utc | 359
I really doubt that afu has actually seasoned forces, maybe boiled could be a more appropriate definition.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 13 2024 13:03 utc | 364

“Kursk battle was the turning point for Hitler’s Nazis, and will be the turning point for the Jewish Nazi Zelenski. One day, the Ukrainians would say, why did they choose a Jew as their president. And, that a Jew had finished Ukraine.”
Posted by: Ostro | Aug 13 2024 11:37 utc | 346
By the time the Kursk battle occurred the Nazis were already losing.
IMO the TSN turning point in the war was the Italians army getting decapitatated by a much smaller English force under Sir Wavell:
“Wavell’s victory
After a limited advance, the Italians halted and set up a series of fortified camps around Sidi Barrani. In December 1940, General Sir Archibald Wavell’s Western Desert Force of 36,000 men attacked the Italians.
A mobile armoured force under Lieutenant-General Richard O’Connor outflanked the Italians at Beda Fomm and pursued them 840km (500 miles) back to Libya. Wavell’s offensive ended at El Agheila on 7 February 1941 with the destruction of nine Italian divisions and the capture of 130,000 men.”..
And, “Hitler realised that he would have to support the Italians in North Africa. On 11 February 1941, Major-General Erwin Rommel’s Afrika Korps landed at Tripoli. The British won some spectacular victories over the Italians, but found the Germans a much tougher nut to crack.” (1)
If Hitler hadn’t had to reinforce the Italians those forces and materirel could have been used in Operation Barbarossa and Hitler may have gotten to Moscow and beat the Soviets.
Anyways, that’s my 10 Canadian cents , about 7 cents American.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 13 2024 13:06 utc | 365

@dana916
🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Russian forces are now using fiber-optic cable control FPV drones in Kursk region.
This allows drones to operate without reliance on radio signals, making them immune to electronic warfare (EW) interference.
But there is a a risk of the fiber breaking, resulting in loss.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 13:07 utc | 366

Roger @ 362
There might be some well analyzed and reasoned plans behind the AFU failures but the failures have been consistent from the start, even the AFU advance early on was only in regard to Russia’s disciplined and organized retreat. It’s still early in the Kursk bulge but if it does turn into another debacle one could accurately state that this is what happens when your country becomes a pawn with its military in the hands of foreigners, UK and USA, that are indifferent to actual real life consequences. This is why Russia and China will win in the end, their militaries aren’t fighting by proxies and by definition not indifferent. A warning to all The Empire’s pawns.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 13 2024 13:07 utc | 367

“Now we see the end – and it’s Kursk again”
Kursk is becoming a symbol of the beginning and end of Russian President Vladimir Putin, said Selenskyj, referring to the catastrophe of the sinking of the most modern Russian nuclear submarine “Kursk”, which sank in August 2000 with 118 crew members on board. “24 years ago there was the Kursk disaster, which was the symbolic beginning of his reign; now we are seeing the end of it – and it is Kursk again.”

from everyones favourite nazi-outlet welt.de
i could say something about the festering nazi cesspool that their comment section is (keep in mind, you have to pay to be able to comment, so axel springer is in complete support of the nazism on display there!), but that would be a waste of time.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 13 2024 13:08 utc | 368

… Lilin hazarded a guess that the strike on the NPP could be to freeze the conflict and force a desperate truce to contain a Chernobyl, giving Ukraine and NATO 2-3ys to regroup and rebuild. …
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 13 2024 12:48 utc | 361

Sure, why not.
I’ve only seen one video, from a distance, of a large fire that appeared to be in machinery inside the base of a cooling tower. Are there any other videos, footage of the claimed drone strike, or information on what was burning so fiercely in the cooling system?

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 13 2024 13:08 utc | 369

I know I shouldn’t feed the trolls, but wrt this exceptionally silly troll comment —
“Further. The west is probably going to destroy planes transferring missiles from Iran to Russia”
— I would counter: Consider the possible flight paths between Iran and Russia. Who would shoot down such a plane, and exactly where?

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 13 2024 13:13 utc | 370

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 13 2024 13:08 utc | 370
I’ve seen some commentary to the effect that the cooling towers contain a honeycomb-like structure to increase the cooling surface area and this is frequently made from rigid PVC plastic, which burns very nicely.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 13 2024 13:14 utc | 371

https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16862

Once again, I would like to draw attention to such enemy know-how as air defense drones. There are two types of such drones. One so-called ramming, hitting our UAV with a direct collision, most often in a propeller and a classic drone with a warhead, which can be activated both from direct contact with the target and by air detonation. Such drones are attacked at all heights of our reconnaissance UAVs, they are used en masse.
Do you know what’s the funniest thing? After far from the first reports, some people far from war in military uniform contemptuously wrinkled their lips and said that this was impossible, saying that the FPV drone could not fly at such a height. It’s impossible to lead when you have dog shit in your head instead of brains, and it’s quite possible to shoot down drones with other drones.

https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16876

FPV drones as an air defense tool. The footage shows an air battle in the sky over the Kursk border between our drone and the hexacopter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
The operator’s experience and FPVishka’s maneuverability made it possible to catch up and destroy the enemy strike UAV.
It should be noted that the enemy is constantly improving their strike drones. On the same “Baba Yaga” the militants strengthen the protection of the main units and batteries.
The last video that our drone transmitted, in fact, captures the rescue of dozens of lives of our fighters on the ground.

https://t.me/vysokygovorit/16863

I am not inclined to exaggerate the capabilities of NATO mercenaries and instructors, who are directly involved in the war against us. The only component in which they are stronger than the crest is combat pilots. There are more of them, they learned to fight on their own equipment and therefore only the NATO “retirees” behind the control of the F-16 will be a real danger.
However, there is another important fact. Right now, NATO are learning to fight Russia, participate in direct battles, hone the skills of a real war, with a real enemy. In the Volchansk direction, separate groups operate, with their command and their radio communication, Khokhly, most of whom do not know English, often cannot understand what they want from them, especially when such a native American English speaker is injured and asks for help, just a couple of days ago there was a similar situation.
I don’t know how many such characters will pass through the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but I’m sure that in this way the same Americans and Europeans are preparing for the Great War and against whom they are preparing, I think it’s clear without further explanation.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 13 2024 13:14 utc | 372

maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/smile-gentlemen-we-are-winning

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 13 2024 13:17 utc | 373

Oops
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/smile-gentlemen-we-are-winning

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 13 2024 13:18 utc | 374

anon2020 | Aug 13 2024 13:08 utc | 370
Plastic diffuser nets inside the tower.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 13:26 utc | 375

from the RMOD https://t.me/ZandVchannel/123981
Since the beginning of hostilities in Kursk region, the enemy lost up to 2,030 Ukrainian troops, 35 tanks, 31 armoured personnel carriers, 18 infantry fighting vehicles, 179 armoured fighting vehicles, 78 motor vehicles, four anti-aircraft missile systems, two MLRS launchers, and 14 field artillery guns.
The operation to neutralise the AFU units is in progress.
the 35 lost tanks is striking, guess they have been saving them for this operation. Now they have been squandered for a pr operation…

Posted by: ctiger | Aug 13 2024 13:27 utc | 376

Statement by the political council of the ruling party “Georgian Dream – Democratic Georgia”:
“The majority of Georgian society rightly doubts Saakashvili’s adequacy. However, the fact is that in August 2008, Saakashvili’s adventurous actions were not the result of his mental instability, but the result of instructions from outside and a well-planned betrayal. In order to establish long-term peace and stability in the country, it is vital to organize a public legal process so that society will know once and for all who committed a treacherous crime against our country and people.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 12:26 utc | 355
This is really good news.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 13:31 utc | 377

The outcome of Zelensky’s Kursk adventure will be clear in September, but the effect can already be seen on the Eastern Front, where the Ukrainian Armed Forces have withdrawn combat units for redeployment to Russian territory.
The Russian Federation has made significant advances in the Pokrovsk direction, capturing three villages in one day: Lisichnoye, Ivanovka, and Sviridovka. And also advancing in a number of other settlements, including Grodovka.
Deep State reports this.
There is also advancement of the Russian Federation in the Kurakhovsky direction near Konstantinovka and in the Kupyansk direction near Peschanoye.
The situation in the Toretsk direction is reported by the 32nd Brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. They stated that Russian sabotage and reconnaissance groups are penetrating Toretsk, and the main battles are taking place in the urban development of Severnoye and Zheleznoye. The situation is grave.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/23865

Our source in the General Staff said that the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region faced difficulties in holding unprepared positions that were easily occupied in the first days of the operation.
The General Staff was not ready for such a scenario and no one prepared supply/rotation routes, now they have to solve all problematic issues according to the situation.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/23867

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 13:32 utc | 378

However one of the most deeply disturbing things about the whole SMO imo is how practically every news organization in the West believes absolutely everything, however wild, that comes from the Ukraine (and US) propaganda machines. Even after repeatedly having been outed as blatant liars. They get away with anything.
Posted by: Avtonom | Aug 13 2024 13:00 utc | 364
It’s absolutely impossible to take the MSM in Sweden seriously anymore. I’ve made it a habit to photograph newspaper posters now and then. The papers were reporting on how the “Russian economy was collapsing” the exact day that, well, the only real economic news was Japan.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 13:34 utc | 379

Posted by: Down South | Aug 13 2024 13:32 utc | 379
One supply road and a squeezing pocket toward the plains of Sudzha will do that. A turkey shoot now.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 13 2024 13:39 utc | 380

Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 13 2024 13:18 utc | 375
A good article
“Most military bloggers are victims of this constant depression in terms of mental health. They are constantly worried about future troubles, always expecting a trick, and when a difficult situation actually occurs, they immediately break into hysteria and panic because their psyche is constantly expecting something like this.”
“We don’t need to look at the frantic war bloggers who have lost their basic sense of dignity. We need to smile sometimes maliciously, sometimes arrogantly, but in general just smile more often, enjoying the moment and, of course, not forgetting about those who are really having a hard time now.”
I stopped reading them long ago for that reason. Some of them click bait to gain ‘views’ to profit from it, others extreme nationalists.
As the Ukie channels said – the Russian military bloggers are doing Ukraine’s propaganda work for it
There are just few good ones, either decent analysts or frontline journalists though I haven’t bothered to try and sort out whos who.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 13:47 utc | 381

Hey, Tichy…this you?
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1823348039341257208

Posted by: Mary | Aug 13 2024 13:48 utc | 382

from Armchair Warlord @ArmchairW on X:
https://x.com/ArmchairW/status/1823153110379798958
‘They’re not trying to stop Ukrainian drives at the screen line like we saw in the Hundred Days, they’re instead diverting them into engagement areas between their front line of screening troops and the main defensive line 5-10km to the rear and destroying them there. Ergo why we’ve seen Ukrainian units just go on these long runs in the last couple days – way past where the front line should be – and then get wiped out in what look like complex ambushes. That’s… actually just how you do a very normal area defense….
There’s actual operational space in rural Kursk.* Second and relatedly, the “forward” defense we’re used to seeing in the Donbass will not inflict crippling casualties on an attacker quickly for the simple reason that attacks often fail in the “cone of fire” in no man’s land or even behind the attacker’s front line, allowing defeated units to easily withdraw. In a conventional defense the attacker is defeated in a kill zone behind the screen line and it is far easier to annihilate an attacking force. ‘

Posted by: Paul Damascene | Aug 13 2024 13:52 utc | 383

Hey, Tichy…this you?
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1823348039341257208
Posted by: Mary | Aug 13 2024 13:48 utc | 383
Haha.
https://www.douxreviews.com/2017/09/philip-k-dicks-electric-dreams-hood.html
This is me.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 13:54 utc | 384

Russia evacuates 180K civilians as Vladimir Putin decries attack in Kursk region

Once the civilians out of the way, the shooting begins. An Ukrainian soldier in Kursk is going to feel like a rabbit the first day of the hunting season.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 13 2024 14:01 utc | 385

Once the civilians out of the way, the shooting begins.
Posted by: Passerby | Aug 13 2024 14:01 utc | 386
There are reportedly ≈2000 civilians trapped behind enemy lines, if I heard right? This will be a problem. It’s anyone’s guess how many are alive though, given the bestiality of the NATO troops and the Nazis. But given past behavior, it is a certainty these will be used as human shields if at all possible.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 14:06 utc | 386

Hey, Tichy…this you?
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1823348039341257208
Posted by: Mary | Aug 13 2024 13:48 utc | 383
Haha.
https://www.douxreviews.com/2017/09/philip-k-dicks-electric-dreams-hood.html
This is me.
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 13:54 utc | 385
I’ve read every Phillip K. Dick novel, novellas-he is one of the finest writers of the 20th century.
My favourite though is, “The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich”.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 13 2024 14:20 utc | 387

Posted by: Mary | Aug 13 2024 13:48 utc | 383
Assuming you know how to read, that Ukrainian’s name is rendered “Tikhy” there, not “Tichy”. “kh” and “ch” don’t even represent remotely the same sounds in transliterations from Slavic languages. “kh” is for the the cyrillic “Х х” (“Kha”), representing the voiceless velar fricative /x/, like in “khorosho/хорошо” (“good”) while “ch” is for the cyrillic “Ч ч” (“Che”), which in Russian (and presumably Ukrainian) usually stands for the voiceless alveolo-palatal affricate /t͡ɕ/, like in “chai/чай” (“tea”). So your passive-aggressive little snipe didn’t even contain a shred of wit.
And you little people have the nerve to accuse others of being trolls who only contribute low-effort garbage.

Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 13 2024 14:25 utc | 388

My favourite though is, “The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich”.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 13 2024 14:20 utc | 388
It’s a good one, but I prefer Ubik. 🙂

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 14:25 utc | 389

And you little people have the nerve to accuse others of being trolls who only contribute low-effort garbage.
Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 13 2024 14:25 utc | 389
Also “Ijon Tichy” is just a pen name taken from The Star Diaries by Stanislaw Lem, which I read before that “foreign policy spokesman” was even born. 😀

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 14:28 utc | 390

13.08.2024 (14:15)
Russian Defence Ministry report on repelling an invasion attempt of the AFU on the territory of the Russian Federation (13 August 2024)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to repel the AFU attempt to invade the territory of the Russian Federation.
Over the past 24 hours, [the operational measures] of the Sever Group of Forces and arrived reserves, army aviation and unmanned aerial vehicles, and artillery fire prevented enemy mobile armoured groups from getting into the rear of Russian territory close to Obshchiy Kolodez, Snagost, Kauchuk, and Alekseyevsky.
An attack launched by the 82nd Airborne Assault Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of Martynovka has been repelled. Up to fifteen AFU personnel, two armoured fighting vehicles, and two motor vehicles were neutralised.
Aviation and artillery strikes hit manpower and hardware of 22nd, 61st, 115th mechanised brigades, and 80th Airborne Assault Brigade close to Mikhailovka, Korenevo, Nikolayevo-Daryino, Oleshni, Sudzha, and Nikolayevka.
Up to 15 Ukrainian soldiers and four Stryker armoured personnel carriers were neutralised; six Ukrainian servicemen have been taken prisoners.
Aviation and missile troops inflicted fire damage on AFU reserves close to Miropolye, Mogritsa, and Petrushevka in Sumy region.
During the day, the AFU losses amounted to up to 420 Ukrainian troops, 55 armoured vehicles, including three tanks, eight armoured personnel carriers, one infantry fighting vehicle, 43 armoured fighting vehicles, 31 motor vehicles, one MLRS launcher, and one artillery gun.
Since the beginning of hostilities in Kursk region, the enemy lost up to 2,030 Ukrainian troops, 35 tanks, 31 armoured personnel carriers, 18 infantry fighting vehicles, 179 armoured fighting vehicles, 78 motor vehicles, four anti-aircraft missile systems, two MLRS launchers, and 14 field artillery guns.
The operation to neutralise the AFU units is in progress.
Department for Media Affairs and Information

Posted by: Lantern Dude | Aug 13 2024 14:31 utc | 391

Statement by the political council of the ruling party “Georgian Dream – Democratic Georgia”:
“The majority of Georgian society rightly doubts Saakashvili’s adequacy. However, the fact is that in August 2008, Saakashvili’s adventurous actions were not the result of his mental instability, but the result of instructions from outside and a well-planned betrayal. In order to establish long-term peace and stability in the country, it is vital to organize a public legal process so that society will know once and for all who committed a treacherous crime against our country and people.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 12:26 utc | 355
“This is really good news.”
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 13:31 utc | 378
Peter thanks-the world is beginning to wake up…

Posted by: canuck | Aug 13 2024 14:43 utc | 392

“Only at the last moment, according to a deputy Ukrainian brigade commander, were even senior officers told of the offensive. The commander…said he had summoned subordinate officers to a meeting on a roadside in a forest to make an announcement. They would invade Russia. This was three days before the attack. Rank-and-file soldiers learned only a day before.”

https://x.com/RALee85/status/1823187230388531317
That’s from the NYT. I suspected that was the case and along with pulling troops in at the last moment from a wide area, is how they managed to surprise Russia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 14:44 utc | 393

I’ve read every Phillip K. Dick novel, novellas-he is one of the finest writers of the 20th century.
My favourite though is, “The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldrich”.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 13 2024 14:20 utc | 388
Also did, and own maybe 99% bought still in the paper era.
Will go for Ubik as the book that got me hooked on him back when I was 10. Already reading some SF back then but PKD is a different thing (more William S. Burroughs than straightforward SF)
The 3 stigmata is quite good (as are many of his crazier works)
Now that we’ve dealt with OT….
Nobody cared to answer my questions:
1. A possible Kiev objective of diverting FABs and Iskanders
2. Drones at ZNPP as a threat of a full artillery destruction

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 13 2024 14:47 utc | 394

I know I shouldn’t feed the trolls, but wrt this exceptionally silly troll comment —
“Further. The west is probably going to destroy planes transferring missiles from Iran to Russia”
—” I would counter: Consider the possible flight paths between Iran and Russia. Who would shoot down such a plane, and exactly where?”
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 13 2024 13:13 utc | 371
Yes an incredibly stupid comment by a retarded troll-you know, trolls aren’t what they used to be-they used to be witty, provocative with semi rational arguments.
This current troll edition are the equivalent of Pintos in the 70’s.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 13 2024 14:47 utc | 395

However one of the most deeply disturbing things about the whole SMO imo is how practically every news organization in the West believes absolutely everything, however wild, that comes from the Ukraine (and US) propaganda machines. Even after repeatedly having been outed as blatant liars. They get away with anything.
Posted by: Avtonom | Aug 13 2024 13:00 utc | 364
More like western media PRINTS everything coming out of Ukraine because that’s what the sharehoders want. There’s no evidence that any of them actually believe this shit. They “get away with it” because they are only beholding to the shareholders … they have constitutional freedom of speech … printing press releases or quotes from Ukraine can never be considered dishonest or slander as long as the reporter is citing their source. In that case it’s the source that lied not the reporter.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 13 2024 14:51 utc | 396

—” I would counter: Consider the possible flight paths between Iran and Russia. Who would shoot down such a plane, and exactly where?”
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 13 2024 13:13 utc | 371
Yes an incredibly stupid comment by a retarded troll-you know, trolls aren’t what they used to be-they used to be witty, provocative with semi rational arguments.
This current troll edition are the equivalent of Pintos in the 70’s.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 13 2024 14:47 utc | 396
I wouldn’t be so fast ruling out that one.
I would remind that I asked some weeks ago what was happening after RF planes being shot down east of krosnodar, not to mention the death of Iran’s president.
At the time I wondered if Armenia (or even Georgia without them knowing) to strike targets far from the frontline…
Sorry to disagree but there were some suspicious events in the area.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 13 2024 14:58 utc | 397

Sorry to disagree but there were some suspicious events in the area.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 13 2024 14:58 utc | 398
It’s possible but I don’t think this could be carried out on a large scale.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 13 2024 15:03 utc | 398

Newbie | Aug 13 2024 14:47 utc | 395
In the last three years, the two Ukraine tg channels, resident and legitimate have proved the most accurate by far of what is going on inside Ukraine. they say they have sources in the office of the president and their accuracy, although not 100%, means they probably do have.
They have written of the aims of this offensive – to sow doubt about the Russian leadership and create instability inside Russia, to draw Russian reserves away from other sectors, to boost morale amongst their own troops prior to the southern offensive, and to keep the western gravy flowing.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 13 2024 15:06 utc | 399

But the gas keeps flowing to Europe and not even are ambassadors recalled from NATO countries
Unnamed @155
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it’s a money hose when it’s working but shut it down and it’s waste of money so why would they shut it down?
HB_Norica @334
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The reason the gas keeps flowing is because the Ukraine war has little to do with NATO, historical Russia, Russian natural resources, etc,; it has to do with getting the EU off the Russian low cost energy tit. This is so Europe will become dependent on natural gas from the Eastern Mediterranean fields (ie Israel) and US LNG.
The Rothschild and their financial kin understand they can never compete on a cost basis with Russian gas; so they have to destroy the supply chain (eg Nordstream) into Europe.
The Russians understand this; so they are going to keep any natural gas supply routes to Europe functioning.
The EU is currently in a quandary. They can’t afford to finance the Ukraine war without low cost Russian natural gas.
East Mediterranean energy resources are also at the heart of the Palestine war. Why the oil platforms in the Eastern Mediterranean are still functioning is a mystery. Also, why shipping into Israel is unimpeded doesn’t make sense.

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 13 2024 15:10 utc | 400