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August 9, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: Kursk Campaign Designed To Keep War Going

The (former) President of Ukraine Vlodomir Zelenski recently made some ambivalent remarks about potential peace talks:

Volodymyr Zelensky told the newspaper "Le Monde" that he does not rule out holding a referendum on the future of Ukrainian territories to end the war, but "it requires the will of the Ukrainian people."

According to the president of the country, Ukraine should not liberate all its territories by "force and weapons," because this option "costs us a lot of time and human lives." Zelensky added: – We can return our territories through diplomatic means.

This is another groundbreaking statement from the Ukrainian leader. On July 22, he said in an interview with the BBC that Ukraine is ready to negotiate the end of the war with Russia, even if Vladimir Putin leads the latter. According to the president of Ukraine, the most essential thing in this matter is a genuine desire for peace on terms consistent with international law.

He added that the "hot" stage of the war could end before the end of 2024, but the peace plan must be fully agreed with Ukraine's allies "so that no one plays with their own initiatives for ending the war."

It was and is doubtful that Zelenski really wants to make peace. In talks with the Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban he had pointed to a theory of victory over Russia. As Orban explained (machine translation):

According to Hungarian Prime Minister Orban, in reality Zelensky assumes that Russia will have to resort to general mobilization in the middle of next year. And this can lead to internal destabilization in the Russian Federation.

Therefore, Zelensky is confident that time is playing on the side of Ukraine in the war – as Orban wrote in a letter to EU leaders after meeting with the Ukrainian president. A source in diplomatic circles informed Strana about the existence of such a letter.

"As for the outcome of the war, the President of Ukraine is confident that the Russian armed forces will be forced to resort to general mobilization in the middle of next year, which will lead to internal destabilization. He believes that the Ukrainian forces are stable, prepared and able to maintain combat effectiveness even in the long term, if Western arms supplies continue. He believes that time is on the side of Ukraine, not on the side of Russia," the letter says.

At the same time, Orban notes that Putin's assessment of the situation is diametrically opposed. The Russian President believes that time is on Russia's side.

I find the Zelenski's theory of victory rather fancy.

  • Russia will need a general mobilization?
  • The mobilization in Russia would lead to the destabilization of Russia?
  • The government of President Putin would fall over it?
  • The Ukrainian army is in good shape?
  • It can stay in combat for much longer?
  • Ukraine can wait out Russia?

I would answer each of those question with a loud "No".

However, Zelenski may well believe in at least some of those claims.

The issue came up again due to the recent Ukrainian incursion into the Kursk region of Russia. There are multiple ideas what the Ukraine leaders wants to achieve with this:

Ukraine has said nothing about the mission or its goals. Theories abound, from an attempt to seize territory as a potential bargaining chip in future negotiations with Moscow, to a diversionary tactic to ease pressure on stretched defenses in Ukraine by drawing Russian forces away from the frontline.

But the Bloomberg writer comes up with a different theory – that the attack was made to unbalance Russia:

The episode exposed the fragility of Russian border defenses with growing numbers of its soldiers fighting in Ukraine. It has boosted Ukrainian morale.

And it has also punctured the Kremlin’s carefully constructed image of Putin as the protector of ordinary Russians.

Instead, the war he started in Ukraine now spills increasingly into Russia, where people in border regions live under constant risk of shelling and drones strike key industrial facilities.

For Ukraine, it’s likely to bolster Kyiv’s argument that US and European allies shouldn’t fear Kremlin threats of escalation and that it should be allowed to take the fight to Putin in any way it sees fit to hasten an end to the war.

The daily summary author at Strana suspects an only slightly different motive (machine translation):

Much indicates that Kiev's real strategy is quite different – to wage a long war in the hope of internal destabilization in the Russian Federation. And here the task is to convince Western partners (including such skeptical ones as Trump) that this is not a dream, but a real calculation. Therefore, Ukraine should not be pushed to negotiate, but give the Armed Forces of Ukraine more weapons and lift restrictions on missiles.

The offensive in the Kursk region, apparently, is designed to prove this to the West.

In an interview last night, the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine (and brain behind Zelenski), Andrey Yermak seemed to confirm that view (video).

Yermak currently sees no point in direct negotiations with Russia. He wants to convince Ukraine's supporters that Ukraine can win:

Ahead of the U.S. presidential election, Ukraine is working with the Democratic and Republican parties to keep them aware of the developments in Ukraine.

This was stated by the Head of the Ukrainian President's Office, Andriy Yermak, who spoke in an interview with European Pravda, Ukrinform reports.

"We are working today both with people from the team of candidate Donald Trump, and – even before the nomination – with Vice President Kamala Harris, who is already a candidate from the Democratic Party. It is very important for us that both headquarters, both candidates and those around them clearly understand what is happening in Ukraine, that they clearly understand the current stage of the war and our strategy. I believe it is very important that both candidates have a plan for Ukraine's victory," he said.

The plan in Kiev is not to negotiate but to prolong the war and to convince the west to further finance it. This would have the advantage of moving billions of additional dollar from western sources into the various pockets in Kiev with Zelenski and Yermak cashing in the largest share of it.

Comments

For Ed4 (he is not the only one though) who usually likes to troll around here, I have a few questions though, since you seem to be familiar with economy, war, social related issues and so on.
If Russia is doing everything wrong with the above, what do you think their solution might be? Accept that they can’t win? Do a large attack that might incur high casualties on their side just to get some speedy victories but not necessarily win the war? Abandon Donbass + Crimea? What then?

Posted by: JamesBond | Aug 11 2024 13:18 utc | 601

Peter AU1@555….Putin was angry at the people who started the attack, not the Russian MOD who watched the build up, knew about the attack, I did, didn’t you, Zeman was very open about it, even took credit for it….no offence Peter,but way too funny.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 11 2024 13:19 utc | 602

Seems as if no one on here amongst you arm chair experts know what the hell is going on in Kursk

Posted by: Flash | Aug 11 2024 13:27 utc | 603

11.08.2024 (14:10)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to repel the AFU attempt to invade the territory of the Russian Federation (11 August 2024)
Over the 24 hours, as a result of active actions by the Sever Group of Forces and arrived reserves, Army Aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, and artillery have thwarted the attempts of enemy mobile groups on armour to get to the depth of the Russian territory near Tolpino, Zhuravli, Obshchiy Kolodez.
In addition, four armoured personnel carriers have been eliminated, including three U.S.-made Stryker armoured personnel carriers, seven armoured fighting vehicles, and two motor vehicles.
As a result of missile strikes and artillery fire against clusters of manpower and hardware of AFU 22nd, 41st, 115th mechanised, 80th, and 82nd air assault brigades near Staraya Sorochnitsa, Korenevo, Sudzha, and Borki, the enemy losses were 35 troops, five tanks, four armoured fighting vehicles, and three motor vehicles.
One AFU attempt to break through towards Belovsky district of Kursk region has been thwarted. Two tanks, one armoured fighting vehicle, one field artillery gun, and two ammunition vehicles have been neutralised by Army Aviation close to Ozerki and Ivanovo.
The Iskander-M operational-tactical missile system has eliminated one Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile system close to Lyubimovka.
Three launchers and one AN/MPQ-65 radar station of the U.S.-made Patriot anti-aircraft missile system has been destroyed near Lebedin (Sumy region).
The AFU reserves have been hit by aviation and missile troops on the territory of Sumy region.
Russian air defence facilities have shot down four Tochka-U tactical missiles and 14 Ukrainian unmanned aerial vehicles over Kursk region.
Over the past 24 hours, the Armed Forces of Ukraine have lost over 230 troops and 38 armoured vehicles, including seven tanks, three Stryker armoured personnel carriers, one infantry fighting vehicle, 28 armoured fighting vehicles, as well as seven motor vehicles, four field artillery guns, one Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile system’s self-propelled gun, three launchers and one AN/MPQ-65 radar station of the U.S.-made Patriot anti-aircraft missile system.
Since the beginning of hostilities in Kursk region, the AFU losses amounted to up to 1,350 Ukrainian troops, 29 tanks, 23 armoured personnel carriers, nine infantry fighting vehicles, 116 armoured fighting vehicles, 20 motor vehicles, three self-propelled guns of the Buk-M1 surface-to-air missile system, three launchers and one AN/MPQ-65 radar station of the U.S.-made Patriot anti-aircraft missile system, one Grad multiple-launch rocket system launcher and 10 field artillery guns.
The operation to neutralise the AFU units is in progress.

Posted by: Lantern Dude | Aug 11 2024 13:33 utc | 604

@ Flash | Aug 11 2024 13:27 utc | 604
Feel free to try your luck with ISW or the like. I’m sure you’ll get better bang for your time from “real experts” with a job title and education certificates. They’ve got everything figured out every time from what I’ve seen.

Posted by: boneless | Aug 11 2024 13:34 utc | 605

The propaganda victory for this incursion into Russian territory is paying off big time.
Posted by: bored | Aug 11 2024 13:16 utc | 601

express, the sun, telegraph, all those british tabloids gloat in anything thats bad for “current enemy” (russia, china, iran, venezuela, you name it. tommorrow it may be you bored), and they would gladly side with nazism or the devil himself as long as they can get some more readers.
also, always wait for official confirmation about everything coming from “the ukraine”, as they have been caught staging fake videos time and time again. whos not to tell that this could be yet another pre-filmed propaganda piece? after all, the current zelenski regime is a television-show production company.
you said it yourself, a “propaganda victory”.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 11 2024 13:42 utc | 606

https://t.me/bayraktar1070/2562

For recent subscribers “not in the know”:
SCS – space communication station
BSHPD – wireless broadband data transmission
PCAO – forward artillery fire corrector
PAN – forward air controller
SPPR – decision support system
SPSO – situational awareness enhancement system
KA – spacecraft (satellite)

Let’s get back to the important stuff..
In a recent RIA NOVOSTI story, I talked about the work of military industry groups on the LBS, about the pressing problems and needs of the troops, and expressed my opinion on the need to develop the communications sector, in particular, space communications and BHPD. Yes, radio hasn’t gone anywhere, it has its own development needs, here we are talking specifically about SCS/BHPD. I have already conveyed these theses, so briefly:
– now troop control is far from just “voice”, it is the transmission of target designation data and video streams;
– it is necessary to reduce the level of SCS proficiency, saturating mobile groups ( reconnaissance/PKAO/PAN/UPV/FPV ) and “bottom of the TZU” units ( support/company/battalion ) with them;
– SCS have long since moved beyond the level of “1 KamAZ – 1 channel”;
– the role of the SCS has shifted sharply from the regiment commander’s reserve to the group/unit access point “to everything” ( open/closed networks, video, PD, messengers, SPPR/SPSO );
– the role of the BHPD in this scheme is the backbone network and the creation of a coverage area for access to network resources provided by the access point ( SCS );
– we do not have Starlink yet ( first of all, we do not have a corresponding space grouping of spacecraft ), therefore, in anticipation of Bureau 1440 and Sphere, it is necessary to saturate the combat formations with those “babies” that I talk about in the story and other stations from this line;
– purchases of this should be carried out not at the expense of a couple of sponsors ( as now ), but planned at the expense of the military command body responsible for this ( greetings to one of the Main Directorates );
– communication organization first of all, a one-button solution “out of the box” will not be available for a long time..
Most importantly, all of the above DOES NOT CANCEL RADIO COMMUNICATION AND WIRES AND DOES NOT REDUCE THEIR ROLE!
Maneuvering forces and means of communication is our everything..

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 11 2024 13:43 utc | 607

Ukraine’s super Tet Offensive is a success. Ukraine has brought the fight back to the invaders land. Now trench warfare will be fought inside Russia.
Remember Russia cheerleaders, you don’t get credit for driving Ukraine out of Kursk — until it happens. We see the old ‘close the cauldron’ nonsense popping up here. Put down those Putin Pom Poms!
Putin — he’s out. He led Russia into a hellish slog, most of his generals are corrupt, and now his actions have caused Russia to be invaded. From day one of his SMO, Russia was less safe.
The SMO resembles WWI, from Vlad’s point of view
2022 (1914) – Russia fails to take advantage of a natural pincer, invasion forces pushed back.
2023 (1915) – Quagmire
2024 (1916) – Quagmire
2025 (1917) – Russian leader removed. Lenin begs Germany for peace.
Since there is no Lenin today and the Russian people are economically content, Putin will most likely resign or be forced out, like Biden.

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 11 2024 13:47 utc | 608

Jesus Christ the NAFO types like the mouth breather above, who wraps himself in the martial cloak of a famous Frenchman but speaks like a child hiding in a bar in South Florida, seem to be trying to simply repeat themselves over and over maybe to shore up their flagging messianic certainty that Russia is losing.
The incursion, planned by the West, was a gambit. It failed. The men and materiel allocated for this operation will be nearly entirely lost..its already well on its way. The forces are trapped in forest belts. As usual, the West places more emphasis on talking shit than doing shit. And talking shit doesn’t win wars.
The thing is, after being entirely wrong, they’ll just come here with the same reheated pablum again and again. It’s not argument with these people, they’re ideological or paid propagandists. Pathetic.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 11 2024 13:53 utc | 609

But hey, it totally energized the NAFOs. They’ve all crawled out of their holes to comment on X/Twitter again.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 11 2024 12:25 utc | 595

Besides further hardening Russian opinion against the West, getting the Nazi fanchildren out of their depression seems to have been the primary effect. Of course, this is just a rallying of the spirit, that will quickly fall back into despondency once reality asserts itself. For now, their imaginations fire with imaginary victories and ethereal glory. It’s all quite predictable, really.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 11 2024 13:58 utc | 610

Posted by: Flash | Aug 11 2024 13:27 utc | 604
It’s D+6 and the Ukrainian’s have failed to capture their D+1-2 objectives.
Ukraine do not have local air superiority or dominance
The width of the breach can be covered by artillery fire
The Russian kill chain is now superior to Ukraine’s
Krynki and Kursk will go down as heroic failures or appalling decisions, depending on which side is making the judgement.
The attempt to divert Russian resources has failed, as the Eastern Front is collapsing, whilst critical mobile reserves are being wasted hundreds of miles away.
Too many people still equate the tactical with the operational, revisit this offensive in a week.
Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 11 2024 13:47 utc | 609
You seem to have ego-invested your analysis of the SMO, normally not a good idea.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 11 2024 14:07 utc | 611

Russia has a devil of a time moving Ukrainian forces out of any area, yet Ukrainian forces can sometimes take ground fast and get Russians fleeing.
People here are always wrong in their predictions and continue to underestimate NATO-backed Ukraine.
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 10 2024 23:33 utc | 528
Yes Ukraine acts boldly and takes chances but doing this is costs them men and material. The down side of this is every six months the Ukrainian army has to find new recruits and and beg to be rearmed by NATO.
Just look at this present attack on Kursk … it petered out to nothing in 4 days. You can drive 100 KM in an hour so a Ukrainian column can skirt a border crossing and take a village 50 KM beyond the Russian border before Russian border guards can wake up and get dressed. However in order to hold that territory they have to bring in their main infantry, artillery, field kitchens, engineering equipment … and they have to maintain supply lines.
Russia controls the skies over the battlefield … just like Krynky Ukraine will have to keep throwing manpower at this while the Russians do their work with their air force and artillery. Just like Krynky the Ukrainians can likely hold this territory for a time using drones and infantry hiding in basements.
However in the scheme of thing what does this accomplish for Ukraine? Do they really think they can trade these few villages in Kursk for Crimea?

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 11 2024 14:08 utc | 612

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 11 2024 13:58 utc | 611 “Besides further hardening Russian opinion against the West,”
What do you think the practical effect of that will be?
The Russians will no longer stop at the edge of the Donbass, but drive further west to draw the line? Or is that they will no longer accept any kind of deal where there is a some sort of a rump Ukrainian state left?

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 11 2024 14:16 utc | 613

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 11 2024 14:08 utc | 613 “The down side of this is every six months the Ukrainian army has to find new recruits and and beg to be rearmed by NATO.”
There is still a lot of Cold War inventory left in the NATO countries. And this thing has gone on so long that the factories making 155mm shells have been built from the ground up. Not enough to overwhelm the Russians, but enough to supply those new Ukrainian army’s that you speak of.
It appears to be the will of the Western leadership to continue that. That is what would need to change to stop the semi-annual remaring of Ukraine. Trump’s chances have narrowed but it is still possible. Of course with Trump there is a small risk he would wake up on the other side of bed and have changed his opinion.

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 11 2024 14:21 utc | 614

It appears to be the will of the Western leadership to continue that.
Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 11 2024 14:21 utc | 615

It is ok, the longer the better for Russia, she will kill all the enemies.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 11 2024 14:31 utc | 615

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 11 2024 13:47 utc | 609
I think the situation more reflects ‘72, than ‘68.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 11 2024 14:31 utc | 616

The Russians will no longer stop at the edge of the Donbass, but drive further west to draw the line?
Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 11 2024 14:16 utc | 614

Medvedev said as much. Ukraine has pretty much demonstrated that it’s very existence is a threat to Russian security.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 11 2024 14:52 utc | 617

“The incursion, planned by the West, was a gambit. It failed.”
@Doctor Eleven | Aug 11 2024 13:53 utc | 610
Cry it out, mouth breather — you are sitting in Santa’s lap, hyperventilating, crying, telling us what you want for Christmas. It’s not Christmas and your above statement is not only false, but detached from reality.
Why post your fantasy of future Russian victories as if they already happened? Doc, you might need a doc, a head shrink. You got duped by Russian war propaganda. For years you ate it up. And now your cognitive dissonance is coming home to roost.
Doc, you are ranting about a patch-work fantasy in your mind, based on war propaganda that you are emotionally unable to critique or let go of. Do you even think Putin believes the rose-colored glasses crap that you post here?
You got played by a KGB officer worth $200 billion —heal thyself doc, and stop projecting your anger at being fooled, being wrong, onto the posters here. You are a gullible war monger and an angry little man like your father figure Putin.

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 11 2024 14:55 utc | 618

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 11 2024 14:55 utc | 619
You really are pathetic – as to your “angry little man” comment, your moniker makes it all the more ridiculous…
*Just my €0.02…*

Posted by: Richard | Aug 11 2024 15:04 utc | 619

your moniker makes it all the more ridiculous…
Posted by: Richard | Aug 11 2024 15:04 utc | 620

Oh the irony! LMAO. As they say “the iron law of woke projection never misses”.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 11 2024 15:08 utc | 620

You got played by a KGB officer worth $200 billion
Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 11 2024 14:55 utc | 619

ah there it is again, the lie from bill browder, that known grifter and thief.
and the local pub idiot fell for it.
congratulations, you played yourself.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 11 2024 15:14 utc | 621

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2024 7:23 utc | 566
Yes nothing ground breaking from the comment but the way Larch phrased it in clean layman’s terms was helpful. I had an inkling about the why but being neither well-versed in domain knowledge nor writing, I thought it would be good to share a well-written explanation instead of trying in vain myself.

Posted by: newbie | Aug 11 2024 15:29 utc | 622

There is still a lot of Cold War inventory left in the NATO countries. And this thing has gone on so long that the factories making 155mm shells have been built from the ground up. Not enough to overwhelm the Russians, but enough to supply those new Ukrainian army’s that you speak of.
Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 11 2024 14:21 utc | 615
In western economies private companies build arms and make ammunition which is sold to the military. In Russia and China the factories making arms are owned by the taxpayer and they build directly for their armies.
If you’ve got a factory in the USA making 500 missiles a year and a one time order comes in for 1500 missiles that likely won’t be repeated next year do you spend a couple of $$billion on expanding your factory that will be mothballed in a year or tell the army to go find their missiles somewhere else?
Russia and China can just build that capacity and mothball it until they need it the next time. The capacity the Russians are using was built during Soviet time. Now on top of that we in the west will have to deal with what the Chinese / Russians have been building deep in the heart of Asia since the SMO started while we in the west have to convince Lockmart to build factories that’ll never turn a profit.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 11 2024 16:15 utc | 623

while we in the west have to convince Lockmart to build factories that’ll never turn a profit.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 11 2024 16:15 utc | 624

Not to mention that everything we build inevitably costs 10x or more as much. It’s not the 80s’… A modern day’s arms race can only bankrupt the West. Realistically there’s zero chance of catching up with Russia, let alone China.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 11 2024 17:33 utc | 624

However in the scheme of thing what does this accomplish for Ukraine? Do they really think they can trade these few villages in Kursk for Crimea?
Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 11 2024 14:08 utc | 613
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After listening to a Alexander Mercouris commentary yesterday, I am about 99.99% sure that the intended goal of the NATO/ AFU attempted incursion into the Kursk region was primarily to capture and maintain control of the Kursk NPP. I think that great minds in the US/Nato really thought that they could use the KNPP for a bargaining chip for something. If so, some of the French and Polish (English?) speakers may have been technicians capable temporally running the power plant until more technicians and troops could be brought in.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 11 2024 17:34 utc | 625

capture and maintain control of the Kursk NPP.
Posted by: Ed | Aug 11 2024 17:34 utc | 626

Yep. We know they’ve coveted the Zap NPP almost as much as Kirch, and there’s always been chatter that this was a distraction to enable them to go for Zap. IMHO they simply don’t have the resources to open another front. That’s why I’d expect the collapse to hit a whole ‘nother gear once Kursk goes full cauldron.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 11 2024 18:18 utc | 626

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 10 2024 18:16 utc | 475
How long can someone be a Newbie/newbie for, before they become an Oldie/oldie???
-Newbie
-newbie
I went to the zoo to look at the gnu,
But the old gnu was dead,
And the new gnu, they said, was too new a newbie to view.
(With apologies to Ogden Nash)

Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 11 2024 19:15 utc | 627

Never go full cauldron.
The Ukranazis got their best nazis and their merc friends, got all dolled up, marched out and made their own partial encirclement, obediently climbed inside (with a little help from their ‘friends’ of course) and now are exactly where most analysts would predict, the fire.
Western strategy is…well, it’s something.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 12 2024 0:00 utc | 628

I went to the zoo to look at the gnu,
But the old gnu was dead,
And the new gnu, they said, was too new a newbie to view.
(With apologies to Ogden Nash)
Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 11 2024 19:15 utc | 628
Gnu Cara? Caralho ! Kkkk
O gnu tem saudade da feijoada de fim de semana no empório … é forma de tratar?
Once again apologies for non-English answer, from the newbie you all know

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 12 2024 0:46 utc | 629

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 11 2024 14:55 utc | 619
I had you checked out-you are 140 lbs and five foot 3 inches, and weak as fuck-no wonder you have a Napoleonic complex.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 12 2024 12:25 utc | 630

“Now obviously you’re not going to leave your comfortable Australian existence. Not only are you a coward, but you pretend to be a friend of Russia while Russian lives are completely expendable to you. You are utterly despicable.”
Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 11 2024 11:32 utc | 579
You have outed yourself as an ignorant, profane, myopic moron; Peter is as far ahead of you intellectually as a retarded snake is to Einstein
Either smarten up or go away.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 12 2024 12:38 utc | 631

Posted by: Siddhartha | Aug 11 2024 0:58 utc | 545
I lived in Luton and I witnessed what Robinson describes: older Pakistani men grooming under age girls turning them into drug addicts/prostitutes-I consoled two sets of parent who had had this done to their daughters.
Whether the Zionists jumped on board the Robinson bandwagon because it served their ill conceived interest has no bearing on the actions of the Muslim groomers which is has been duly proven.
You guys blah, blah; blah but you won’t even watch the video I have provided-you’d rather cling onto your warped mythology.
Here it is again-educate yourselves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnhwBoFxaDI&t=99s

Posted by: canuck | Aug 12 2024 12:47 utc | 632

“With Ukrainian hands the west is at war with us.”
That’s what Putin said in today’s meeting with ministers and governors of border area oblasts. It could become official since it has been publicly acknowledged.
http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/74856

Posted by: Paco | Aug 12 2024 12:57 utc | 633

The plan in Kiev is not to negotiate but to prolong the war and to convince the west to further finance it. This would have the advantage of moving billions of additional dollar from western sources into the various pockets in Kiev with Zelenski and Yermak cashing in the largest share of it.
Posted by b on August 9, 2024 at 11:15 UTC | Permalink
I disagree, the plan of “Z” (of NATO) is to give another kick to the can while waiting for all the other fronts to align (Israel, Armenia, Libya, Syria, Taiwan, Africa, etc…! The hole will be capped by Russia and the play will continue until around April 2025, then we will see if humanity will continue its race or return to the caves. The most beautiful example of “Thucydides’ trap” ever seen.

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 12 2024 13:03 utc | 634

the quick way to end the ridiculous nasty NATO manoeuvers is for Russia to use small nuclear missiles on the Galician cities. Turn Lwow, Tarnopol, Ivano-Frankovsk to Gaza and irradiate as much as possible ground up to Polish border.

Posted by: Timur | Aug 12 2024 13:53 utc | 635

The plan in Kiev is not to negotiate but to prolong the war and to convince the west to further finance it. This would have the advantage of moving billions of additional dollar from western sources into the various pockets in Kiev with Zelenski and Yermak cashing in the largest share of it.

Yes following the sound and proven war-is-a-racket principle. Most summire summary of the conflict so far! Thank you for pushing this out in all its naked glory. Maybe not how the conflict started but certainly a key to understanding of how it’s going. And since when has pouring in billions without much oversight or idea of any end game did anything else in our history? If there were not profiteers to start with, they certainly will gather after a while. And they will make every choice aimed at prolonging the situation. Without thought of any actualy future. By then they might all have left and moved on, unaccountable, shameless.

Posted by: John Dowser | Aug 12 2024 18:21 utc | 636

European measures against Russia. 496 pages.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 14 2024 22:02 utc | 637

. ‘In its recent report, Microsoft spotlighted four websites, which the company said were covertly run by Iran, masquerading as legitimate news outlets ..’
Yes the super tech corporations that help the IOF locate pockets of mild resistance and blast them to oblivion, have located a pocket of resistance at MoA.
These corporations have never found a use for 24/7 spying apart from satisfying the megalomania of twisted psychopaths or creating a “”””Feed”””” or our interest based on their satanic eavesdroppings .
Until now. If we enter the gate of Hell to WW3. Everybody who expresses a mild frustration to their friends or family at home in their private rooms with the deprivations imposed by the Zionists out of spite and racism. Will be targeted and blown apart.
That could be tomorrow. In Britain.
This is the technology we carry in our pockets like our best friend.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 15 2024 2:16 utc | 638