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August 9, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: Kursk Campaign Designed To Keep War Going

The (former) President of Ukraine Vlodomir Zelenski recently made some ambivalent remarks about potential peace talks:

Volodymyr Zelensky told the newspaper "Le Monde" that he does not rule out holding a referendum on the future of Ukrainian territories to end the war, but "it requires the will of the Ukrainian people."

According to the president of the country, Ukraine should not liberate all its territories by "force and weapons," because this option "costs us a lot of time and human lives." Zelensky added: – We can return our territories through diplomatic means.

This is another groundbreaking statement from the Ukrainian leader. On July 22, he said in an interview with the BBC that Ukraine is ready to negotiate the end of the war with Russia, even if Vladimir Putin leads the latter. According to the president of Ukraine, the most essential thing in this matter is a genuine desire for peace on terms consistent with international law.

He added that the "hot" stage of the war could end before the end of 2024, but the peace plan must be fully agreed with Ukraine's allies "so that no one plays with their own initiatives for ending the war."

It was and is doubtful that Zelenski really wants to make peace. In talks with the Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban he had pointed to a theory of victory over Russia. As Orban explained (machine translation):

According to Hungarian Prime Minister Orban, in reality Zelensky assumes that Russia will have to resort to general mobilization in the middle of next year. And this can lead to internal destabilization in the Russian Federation.

Therefore, Zelensky is confident that time is playing on the side of Ukraine in the war – as Orban wrote in a letter to EU leaders after meeting with the Ukrainian president. A source in diplomatic circles informed Strana about the existence of such a letter.

"As for the outcome of the war, the President of Ukraine is confident that the Russian armed forces will be forced to resort to general mobilization in the middle of next year, which will lead to internal destabilization. He believes that the Ukrainian forces are stable, prepared and able to maintain combat effectiveness even in the long term, if Western arms supplies continue. He believes that time is on the side of Ukraine, not on the side of Russia," the letter says.

At the same time, Orban notes that Putin's assessment of the situation is diametrically opposed. The Russian President believes that time is on Russia's side.

I find the Zelenski's theory of victory rather fancy.

  • Russia will need a general mobilization?
  • The mobilization in Russia would lead to the destabilization of Russia?
  • The government of President Putin would fall over it?
  • The Ukrainian army is in good shape?
  • It can stay in combat for much longer?
  • Ukraine can wait out Russia?

I would answer each of those question with a loud "No".

However, Zelenski may well believe in at least some of those claims.

The issue came up again due to the recent Ukrainian incursion into the Kursk region of Russia. There are multiple ideas what the Ukraine leaders wants to achieve with this:

Ukraine has said nothing about the mission or its goals. Theories abound, from an attempt to seize territory as a potential bargaining chip in future negotiations with Moscow, to a diversionary tactic to ease pressure on stretched defenses in Ukraine by drawing Russian forces away from the frontline.

But the Bloomberg writer comes up with a different theory – that the attack was made to unbalance Russia:

The episode exposed the fragility of Russian border defenses with growing numbers of its soldiers fighting in Ukraine. It has boosted Ukrainian morale.

And it has also punctured the Kremlin’s carefully constructed image of Putin as the protector of ordinary Russians.

Instead, the war he started in Ukraine now spills increasingly into Russia, where people in border regions live under constant risk of shelling and drones strike key industrial facilities.

For Ukraine, it’s likely to bolster Kyiv’s argument that US and European allies shouldn’t fear Kremlin threats of escalation and that it should be allowed to take the fight to Putin in any way it sees fit to hasten an end to the war.

The daily summary author at Strana suspects an only slightly different motive (machine translation):

Much indicates that Kiev's real strategy is quite different – to wage a long war in the hope of internal destabilization in the Russian Federation. And here the task is to convince Western partners (including such skeptical ones as Trump) that this is not a dream, but a real calculation. Therefore, Ukraine should not be pushed to negotiate, but give the Armed Forces of Ukraine more weapons and lift restrictions on missiles.

The offensive in the Kursk region, apparently, is designed to prove this to the West.

In an interview last night, the head of the Office of the President of Ukraine (and brain behind Zelenski), Andrey Yermak seemed to confirm that view (video).

Yermak currently sees no point in direct negotiations with Russia. He wants to convince Ukraine's supporters that Ukraine can win:

Ahead of the U.S. presidential election, Ukraine is working with the Democratic and Republican parties to keep them aware of the developments in Ukraine.

This was stated by the Head of the Ukrainian President's Office, Andriy Yermak, who spoke in an interview with European Pravda, Ukrinform reports.

"We are working today both with people from the team of candidate Donald Trump, and – even before the nomination – with Vice President Kamala Harris, who is already a candidate from the Democratic Party. It is very important for us that both headquarters, both candidates and those around them clearly understand what is happening in Ukraine, that they clearly understand the current stage of the war and our strategy. I believe it is very important that both candidates have a plan for Ukraine's victory," he said.

The plan in Kiev is not to negotiate but to prolong the war and to convince the west to further finance it. This would have the advantage of moving billions of additional dollar from western sources into the various pockets in Kiev with Zelenski and Yermak cashing in the largest share of it.

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Nuking Washington and New York and London would end the only stranglehold that the Empire of Evil has over the world – finanical weapons of terror. With the end of dollar hegemony, it will be left to those with access to resources (Russia) to build a more just, equitable society.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 9 2024 19:02 utc | 201

@177/Love Donbass:
“…These people are dangerous psychopaths, dragging millions of their citizens along with them. If you want to end the world, start nuking. Until then, be satisfied with destroying the currencies and social cohesion of these countries. The latter is easily done as they seem to be consuming themselves through the internal cognitive dissonance of their elite-promoted ideologies (feminism, globalism, liberalism)”
– Well spoken and true.

Posted by: Blue Angel | Aug 9 2024 19:03 utc | 202

Kursk sitrep for the evening of August 09, 2024
▪️During the day, the enemy continued to put pressure around the established bridgehead in the region, we agree with the assessments Roman Alekhine , that the enemy is still very far from being “thrown back”, despite the introduction of our approaching units. The enemy is pulling reserves (not all of them have been introduced into the combat zone), and our UAV operators, missilemen and aviators are hunting for them. The reserves are serious – they are reporting another reserve brigade. Nevertheless, it is possible to localize the movements of the combat reconnaissance patrols of the Ukrainian Armed Forces: in the first days, the enemy columns operated as part of full-fledged motorized infantry and tank companies. Now, numerous enemy attacks on the same Korenovo have had no success.
▪️Kiev plans to achieve more serious results in this direction. Missile weapons are used up to 7 times a day against the rear areas of the Kursk region, the enemy does not spare anti-aircraft missiles at all, although previously they were saved even during strikes by the Russian Armed Forces on the enemy’s capital.
▪️The photos and videos of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region settlements that are being distributed are often taken yesterday, some are fake. In Sudzha, fighting broke out again in the evening, the marines of the 810th Guards are fighting bravely. In the territories occupied by the enemy, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are committing reprisals, shooting at cars with civilians who are trying to break through.
▪️An important element of the situation is the actions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on the Gornal – Guevo – Plekhovo line, the enemy is increasing pressure significantly south of Sudzha. That is, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not continue to strike head-on in the face of resistance, but are conducting a maneuverable offensive operation.
▪️The regional authorities of the region have a serious problem with mid-level performers. The command of the head of the region to evacuate people by all available means with the involvement of volunteers is broken by the impenetrable stupidity and inertia of the “deputy deputies” . Nevertheless, popular support for residents and defenders of the Kursk region is growing. The enemy has not yet realized that with his actions he brought the “sleeping” part of the country out of its television slumber. But not all of it.
▪️The coming days will be difficult, the deployment of the arrived reserves is underway, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will continue active operations in other areas, regardless of the loss of territory in other areas of the front.

https://t.me/two_majors/29277

Posted by: Down South | Aug 9 2024 19:08 utc | 203

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 18:59 utc | 197
But the Ukies could take Stalingrad, it’s not so far away, 250Km. Unfortunately, history has shown that Russia is not lost even if it loses control of Moscow or Stalingrad. Maybe the Ukies should come up with something completely new and cut off Russia’s connection to China. That would at least make strategic sense.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 9 2024 19:10 utc | 204

Proletärer i alla länder, förena er! ☭
Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 9 2024 18:35 utc | 185
Finns tyvärr alldeles för få av oss kvar i det här landet för att det skall spela någon uppenbar roll i sammanhanget, men tack. “Upp till kamp emot kvalen, sista striden är här.” I’ll stop using my microlanguage here now ^^

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 19:15 utc | 205

Dmitry Medvedev

The German newspaper Bild has published a revanchist article where it proudly announces German tanks’ comeback to the Russian land. In response, we’re going to do everything to bring the newest Russian tanks to Platz d. Republik.

https://x.com/MedvedevRussiaE/status/1821967864947220777

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2024 19:15 utc | 206

There is no other option than Nukes now. God forbid that it came to this, I pray that Putin has not taken leave of his senses to the point where he will permit further and deeper incursions/invasions, bow to America and allow them to station troops in Eastern Russia for easy access to China.
I live in Western Europe and understand the consequences of an all out nuclear exchange only to well, however at this point we might as well get on with it – if that is what it takes to smash American oppression.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 9 2024 18:38 utc | 187
Why are some people so quick to jump to nukes? This quasi-invasion is not an existential threat to Russia! Of course, the trajectory of belligerence points to a malign Western motive to destroy the Russian “state,” but so far the means of attempting to achieve this have been sub-standard, relying on false premises and clumsy plans. There may well come a day when Russia has no choice but to play its nuclear cards, but right now, it has a choice. Elensky moving a few thousand special troops (I assume half are NATO mercs) inside Russian territory – the largest border in the WORLD – is pissing in the wind. They will be wiped out eventually, as any objective observer can see.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 9 2024 19:17 utc | 207

@184
These trolls starting hanging around while B. was recuperating. They slipped through the cracks, so to speak. Their comments are similar to those generated by the anti-Russian, AI chatbots on Newsweek’s forums.
What a shame.

Posted by: GW | Aug 9 2024 19:17 utc | 208

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 9 2024 19:17 utc | 207
I mentioned that nuking NYC, Washington, London would remove at a stroke the only real card the west has, one that even barflies accept they have a monopoly on.
The Federal Reserve.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 9 2024 19:27 utc | 209

Maybe the Ukies should come up with something completely new and cut off Russia’s connection to China.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 9 2024 19:10 utc | 204
I freely admit I have a warped sense of humour but there could be some macabre fun to be had watching the Ukies try to do that…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 19:29 utc | 210

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 9 2024 16:05 utc | 99
It has to be about detecting and hitting enemy forces before they get within striking range of Russian civilians and infrastructure: more and better surveillance, more and better comms, more and better fire support, active measures to suppress natural cover that critically undermines border security.
On the day, higher altitude drones still worked because they weren’t covered by the EW brought in by the attackers (though they could have been, or they could have been shot down), if there had been a Tornado-S covering that sector those convoys that were trying to squeeze through single lane minefield paths would have been toast.
It’s always possible to be wise after the fact but the lack of on-call heavy fire support was demonstrated during the previous border incursions as well, this is not the first border rodeo. The security arrangements were weak, based largely on civilian / retail comms technology, the attacker brought EW and more resilient comms and drones with them.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 9 2024 19:30 utc | 211

To me, all the “nuke trolls” coming out tells us something: that is NATOs strategic goal here: to goad Russia into over-reacting. It’s all a waste of time, they are not that stupid. But the psy-op units have to do something on their shifts.

Posted by: Moonraker | Aug 9 2024 19:36 utc | 212

Some observations.
All the Russophobic Countries, are supporters of Israel and its policies of torture, genocide, war crimes, murder, and the institution of sodomy as a national past time. Can anyone find an exception?
All the “woke” countries support Israel.
NATO is at war with Russia.
The US controls NATO.
Israel controls the U.S.
Ergo, Israel controls NATO and is therefore behind its war against Russia.
Which race was it that was behind the wholesale slaughter of Russians during the Russian revolution?
Ugly truths.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 9 2024 19:37 utc | 213

aristodemos @169: “Where did you lose your common sense, your very sense of survival, my man. Sometimes you post very sensible stuff and I enjoy that…but NUKES?”
It isn’t what I want, it is just the result of the current geopolitical logic playing out to its conclusion. You know it is true as well or you would have answered the question about where else the escalation can lead.
There is a chance that a win by the “realist” oligarch faction behind Trump this November could freeze the escalation and allow the Russians to continue the slow SMO, but that would just be a temporary reprieve. This non-finance faction of the imperial oligarchy is “realist” because they know nukes are on the table, and nukes are bad for property values. The neolibcon faction behind the Establishment/Deep State that is pushing for the Democrats is 100% certain that the Russians are only bluffing about using nukes. Are they right? Will Russia submit to the Empire and allow themselves to be “decolonized”/balkanized without resorting to using their last weapon?
The reason the escalation continues is because the gang running the Empire doesn’t believe Russia has the balls to keep up with the escalation to its end. A “live fire” demonstration 18 months ago with Ramstein getting glassed would have clarified things, but we are now too close to the top of the escalation ladder. For a single nuke to be able to interrupt the escalation, it would have to be a surprise; an overreaction. The Russians would have had to leap-frog over several steps in the escalation chain, but it is too late for a small demonstration to work now. Instead, the Russians will continue to be surprised by the Empire’s escalations until the Empire launches a decapitation strike.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2024 19:40 utc | 214

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 9 2024 19:37 utc | 213
Agree this incursion has Zionist fingerprints all over it.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 9 2024 19:40 utc | 215

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 9 2024 19:37 utc | 213
Meh, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Israel collapse into civil war; however this is entirely off-topic for this thread. If you wish to continue a discussion please use the current Open Thread.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 19:44 utc | 216

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 9 2024 17:50 utc | 156
Let’s see how it looks in a week or 2.
All it looks to me is Z is copying Russia’s move on Kharkiv, without adequate manpower, weapons nor supply lines.
Moses Christ. I thought your unplanned vacation in St. Helena would have given you a better read of the battlefield.

Posted by: kupkee | Aug 9 2024 19:50 utc | 217

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 9 2024 19:37 utc | 213
A good point there. Funny how the attack happened almost within days of Russia giving arms to Iran which basically make Iran impervious to US, let alone Israel attacks, with teeth to give both of them a bloody nose.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 9 2024 19:51 utc | 218

Seeing people being called “concern trolls” for expressing disappointment over this by the vile cynics on this site (who have the gall to think of themselves as somehow morally and intellectually superior) makes me want to vomit.
Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 9 2024 17:38 utc | 148
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Unnamed, thank you for your comment, and your serious concern, about the situation in the Kursk direction. Question: How do you determine that a honestly “concerned” person (as yourself) is not in fact a complete “concern Troll” dishing Russia at every opportunity?
It is true that some of us who have been commenting here at MoA for a long time are often too quick to call a dissenter a Troll. I admit that I am among the worst of those (my apologies), but we have seen and heard it all here. Weather one is a CIA Troll, or just a Russophobe with family in Ukraine is always an open question.
But those commentors who repeatedly take every opportunity blame Putin for events on the ground, or to declare the Russian Military a treacherous, unprofessional, naive fighting forces because their tactics do not conform to their liking, you began to see a picture form about those people or Bots(?). We also take names and follow a few to see what they are all about, and we question their point of view, not always graciously, but with curiosity mostly: Why not troll MSM site? Answer: They don’t let you if you “dissent” too far from the MSM narrative.
Trolls will gladly say that they don’t approve of US, NATO, the EU, or Israeli policies, but this is only to give us the warm and fuzzy, so that we welcome them in as new commentors with something important to say about the issues at hand.
But in time the Trolls separate from people who are seriously concerned commentors and show their true colors and repeatedly attack those who call them out. You could say that the difference between a troll and a seriously concerned commentor is that the Troll dost protest too much, like ALL of the time.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 19:53 utc | 219

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2024 19:40 utc | 214
Indeed constant escalation is the name of the game. This latest maneuver is certainly part of that pattern. Another unsuccessful attempt at identifying Russians red lines.
Like you I see only 2 options for Russia – to bend the knee or to decapitate first.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 9 2024 19:54 utc | 220

When it comes to the reasons for the Kursk operation, I think that most commenters are underestimating NATO.
Having failed to escalate using the U.S., the British led NATO (Ukraine) decided that the next best thing is to convert civilian nuclear assets into dirty bombs, with which to threaten and, if necessary, severely damage Russia.
Posted by: dh-mtl | Aug 9 2024 13:54 utc | 56
You are totally right.
Putinophiles do not understand that but that is the case.
Anglo-Saxons are unrestrained, brave and mad.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 19:57 utc | 221

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2024 19:00 utc | 199
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That channel is reporting that based on “European” sources.

@DD_Geopolitics
🇷🇺🇮🇷 Iran to Arm Russia… again.
Two European intelligence sources to Reuters:
– Dozens of Russian soldiers are training in Iran on the ballistic missile system.
– Iran will supply Russia with hundreds of ballistic missiles soon.
According to the sources, the deal will revolve around Fath-360 close-range ballistic missile system, in addition to other missiles.

Source

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 9 2024 19:57 utc | 222

It isn’t what I want, it is just the result of the current geopolitical logic playing out to its conclusion.
I quite agree with you in general, and I might add that even if there is a geopolitical shakeup, for an aversion, any “replacement team” of a major player would need be to be quite pusillanimous, rather than bellicose. And the benches don’t really look that way.

Posted by: Call it what u will | Aug 9 2024 20:00 utc | 223

Norwegian | Aug 9 2024 19:15 utc | 206
A joke that I heard was making the rounds of the RF military in the run up to the SMO:
“We accepted Napoleon’s invitation to visit Paris.
We accepted Hitler’s invitation to visit Berlin.
We have not yet received, but will not decline NATO’s invitation to visit London.”
The Kursk operation (to me) has all the signs of desperation; committing such large reserves of men and equipment while defensive lines in Donbass crumble, to achieve…what? Capture the Kursk NPP? Apparently there are no other strategically significant targets in the area. And if it’s UKR’s intention to grab territory to strengthen their position is future negotiations, then that boat’s already sailed; I’m pretty sure more than one Russian official has said that negotiation can only commence with UKR’s capitulation, which may actually come sooner than expected at this rate.
Thank you for all your insightful posts over the years.

Posted by: robjira | Aug 9 2024 20:00 utc | 224

You have not linked to any source, because this is an incorrect rumour.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2024 19:00 utc | 199

I understand what you are saying but I don’t know how to link Telegram posts. I don’t have a telegram account and I’m trying to link the posts via laptop browser.

Posted by: bored | Aug 9 2024 20:02 utc | 225

By the way, don’t anyone suggest that I want the Empire to launch a decapitation strike against Russia because I pointed out that is where things are going. Acknowledging reality doesn’t mean you like it. Sure, many in the West these days think something they believe in hard enough will become reality, but that’s not the way the universe works. Likewise, being adamantly in denial about something doesn’t make it not true.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2024 20:08 utc | 226

Nuking Washington and New York and London would end the only stranglehold that the Empire of Evil has over the world – financial weapons of terror. With the end of dollar hegemony, it will be left to those with access to resources (Russia) to build a more just, equitable society.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 9 2024 19:02 utc | 201
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Oh my God: Neo-cons are promoting post nuclear war socialism as a come-on for Armageddon? Really?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 20:09 utc | 227

Maybe the Ukies should come up with something completely new and cut off Russia’s connection to China. That would at least make strategic sense.
Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 9 2024 19:10 utc | 204
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And how, pray tell, does Ukraine do that? I wait your response.
Cheers

Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 20:14 utc | 228

@Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 9 2024 18:28 utc | 184
Vous avez un parti pris anti-russe. Vous voulez que davantage de Russes meurent dans cette entreprise pour sauver l’ego de Poutine. Je veux ce que veulent les troupes russes, un cessez-le-feu immédiat. C’est un crime que quiconque doit mourir pour le bourbier de Poutine.

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 9 2024 20:15 utc | 229

[derp]I don’t know how to link Telegram posts. I don’t have a telegram account and I’m trying to link the posts via laptop browser.[/derp]
Posted by: bored | Aug 9 2024 20:02 utc | 225
Smartphone user detected.
There are lots of laptop/desktop browsers. Some treat the users as a product to be exploited. Others don’t give a toss, just send them a donation every now and then.
Find one that works.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 20:18 utc | 230

Russia’s partial war (the SMO) was a flop. Russians need to take this war more seriously as it is an existential war and it is really NATO against Russia using proxy Ukraine.
Russia has been far too soft, allowing most Ukrainian soldiers to escape to fight again, and arresting terrorists only to release them in a few weeks.
It doesn’t seem Putin is that good at managing the war. He is not enough of a hardliner and he seems to downplay it and be more concerned with Russia’s economy than doing what is necessary to actual win a war.

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 9 2024 20:18 utc | 231

Some observations.
All the Russophobic Countries, are supporters of Israel and its policies of torture, genocide, war crimes, murder, and the institution of sodomy as a national past time. Can anyone find an exception?
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 9 2024 19:37 utc | 213
As a child of the West, in its declining but still relatively glorious years of the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s, I was inculcated in my developing years to side with Israel. At one point, I believed it all. But at the same time as I was being taught that Israel was sacrosanct, I was also being inculcated to believe in the supremacy of human rights and dignity – all of our foes were “raping” and “torturing” dissidents, not allowing them to speak – we were the defenders of human rights and dignity!!
Although it began earlier, my cognitive dissonance began in earnest with the first war in Iraq – against our former ally and “westernized” Arab leader (Saddam), who we attacked for invading a shithole that we had “tricked” him into invading in order to reduce the threat to Israel of a large Arab army. I could go on and on about this, but to get back to the point: a recent survey of Israeli citizens that shows a majority (47 %) supporting the rape of Palestinian prisoners is beyond shocking and completely submerges any moral high ground that we believed we once had in relation to the use of force on other countries and peoples. The public rhetoric of Israeli Ministers like Ben-Gvir reveals a medieval mentality at the root of Israeli/Western policy.
The analogous Ukrainian adventure and its underhanded, vicious nature has simply laid bare of all this duplicity and moral vacuousness in 3D graphics thanks to all of the videos and the ravings of the damned Ukrainian fake “leadership.” Our leaders are the enemy.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 9 2024 20:20 utc | 232

Firstly I want to point out that yes, the assault on Russia proper does seem like something of a desperation move on the part of the Ukrainians. I’m just not privy to the real rationale; I admit my ignorance freely.
Then we have this, though…
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 9 2024 19:37 utc | 213

“Some observations.
All the Russophobic Countries, are supporters of Israel and its policies of torture, genocide, war crimes, murder, and the institution of sodomy as a national past time. Can anyone find an exception?
All the “woke” countries support Israel.
NATO is at war with Russia.
The US controls NATO.

This is all correct.

“Israel controls the U.S.
Ergo, Israel controls NATO and is therefore behind its war against Russia.”

I’ve been struggling for a while with who the dog and who the tail is, yes. But finally we get to this:

“Which race was it that was behind the wholesale slaughter of Russians during the Russian revolution?”

… and here we are in Nazi territory. Have you read Karl Marx on the Jewish question? I guess you think Lenin was a Jew, too. By the same logic I’d be a gypsy.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 20:21 utc | 233

2 weeks of positive PR for Ukraine before Russia controls and pushes out all the ukes. A lot of death and destruction for nothing. A disaster.

Posted by: Cycling Nut | Aug 9 2024 20:23 utc | 234

Like you I see only 2 options for Russia – to bend the knee or to decapitate first.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 9 2024 19:54 utc | 220
Night started early? If you trip don’t post 😀
But in time the Trolls separate from people who are seriously concerned commentors and show their true colors and repeatedly attack those who call them out. You could say that the difference between a troll and a seriously concerned commentor is that the Troll dost protest too much, like ALL of the time.
Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 19:53 utc | 219
Too kind, nuke them all (web wise only)

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 9 2024 20:25 utc | 235

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 9 2024 20:18 utc | 231
Strong economies win wars, which is why Ukraine in particular, and the West generally, are fooked, though they haven’t realised it yet.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 20:28 utc | 236

Anglo-Saxons are unrestrained, brave and mad.
Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 19:57 utc | 221
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Vargas, you seem to hold the Anglo-Saxons in high esteem.
Do you agree with their stances on genocide and rape?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 9 2024 20:28 utc | 237

Posted by: Mario | Aug 9 2024 18:48 utc | 193 “NATO is in desperate need to go nuclear because it will never win a conventional war with RF”
Here is a retired Russian Colonel-General Leonid Ivashov on Russian TV the other day who disagrees with you.
https://x.com/i/status/1812031112090169779
“Any confrontation with the NATO bloc is possible only with the use of nuclear weapons. There is simply no other option. If NATO’s military organization surpasses us, it is absolutely futile for us to enter into such an armed confrontation with conventional means of destruction only.”

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 9 2024 20:29 utc | 238

Any comments on this please?
Desperation or fucking idiots who have no clue how this scenario will conclude?
Pentagon Refuses To Rule Out Strikes On Moscow In Shocking Exchange On Ukraine’s Incursion Into Kursk

Posted by: jpc | Aug 9 2024 20:32 utc | 239

NATO is in desperate need to go nuclear because it will never win a conventional war with RF, nor that israel/us can win a conventional war against yemen/Lebanon let alone Iran.
Posted by: Mario | Aug 9 2024 18:48 utc | 193
If Russia fought better conventionally then the war wouldn’t be going so poorly for them at this point. 2.5 years and they haven’t got Ukrainian forces out of the Donbass and more than a year of Russians in Russia being killed by Ukrainian drones, and now an invasion of Russian territory with Ukrainian forces digging in.
It is the Russian army which is failing conventionally. And it is that which makes the risk of nuclear war greater. If they keep failing with Ukraine Russia will eventually get desperate and turn to the nukes.

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 9 2024 20:34 utc | 240

@robjira | Aug 9 2024 20:00 utc | 224
Thank you for those kind words, I could not receive a better compliment! I believe in truth based on verifiable facts, insight must be based on facts and reason. I grew up under confusing circumstances, but survived by clinging on to facts. It gave me a desire to understand the present as well as the very distant past. If some of my posts are seen as insightful I am happy and humbled.
Yes, I remember that joke 🙂 Right now I expect it to remain a joke, but it looks like the buffer zone in 404 is going to have to be rather large…
The Kursk operation has indeed all the signs of desperation, it seems to me it is now all about staying alive physically for Zelensky, Budanov etc. That means keep the war going. If “peace breaks out” they will have no chance. I don’t quite see them capitulating, but somehow they will be removed from the scene, I agree it cannot last for very long.
I predicted the regime would fall early this year and I was wrong, so issuing another prediction isn’t so smart I guess. But losing 2000 soldiers every day is a hard fact that you cannot easily ignore.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2024 20:37 utc | 241

… The SMO is now a War.
The final legal barriers (both domestic and international) preventing Russia from using its full military might, including Strategic Forces, were removed the moment Ukraine invaded Russia with military force …
Posted by: From Moldova Blogger | Aug 9 2024 14:04 utc | 62

Very (very) good point

Posted by: SattaMassaGana | Aug 9 2024 20:39 utc | 242

I figured it out.
Here is the original telegram post on DD Geopolitics stating that Russia was getting missiles from Iran :
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/118920
I can’t link the follow up with Iran denying the allegations but I quoted it :

DD Geopolitics
DD Geopolitics
🇷🇺🇮🇷 Two European intelligence sources to Reuters: – Iran will supply Russia with hundreds of ballistic missiles soon. – Dozens of Russian soldiers are training in Iran on the ballistic missile system. According to the sources, the deal will revolve around…
🇮🇷🇷🇺 Iran’s mission to the United Nations has confirmed that the Reuters report about Tehran sending missiles to Russia is false.
The mission said in a statement: “We avoid delivering any weapons, including missiles, that could be used in the conflict in Ukraine.”
A short while ago, Reuters quoted what it called “European intelligence sources” as saying that Iran “will soon supply Russia with hundreds of ballistic missiles.”
The agency reported, citing the same sources, that “dozens of Russian soldiers are training in Iran on the ballistic missile system,” which the mission denied.

Posted by: bored | Aug 9 2024 20:40 utc | 243

Wake up. Time to die.
This is the Zionist controlled USA attacking Russia. This is the Zionist controlled USA killing Russians. Call it out for what it is. The west is leaving Russia no alternative. Russia has one of if not THE largest nuclear arsenals. They will not just sit by and die.
Note to Russia. Its a waste of time killing more Ukrainians with slow attrition. You are being targeted for annihilation. Send a message to the real enemy, a message they simply cannot ignore. That should put a stop to this.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 9 2024 20:43 utc | 244

@bored | Aug 9 2024 20:02 utc | 225

I understand what you are saying but I don’t know how to link Telegram posts. I don’t have a telegram account and I’m trying to link the posts via laptop browser.

If you can see the post in a browser, just post the URL. Those who have Telegram Desktop (on a PC) will be offered to see the post in Telegram. Smaller posts sometimes do not require a Telegram account.
For those who have Telegram Desktop (on a PC) and want to post a link, right click the post text and select “Copy Post Link” (to system Clipboard) so you can paste in in MoA the usual way.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2024 20:46 utc | 245

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 9 2024 20:43
Amen brother

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 9 2024 20:46 utc | 246

Posted by: bored | Aug 9 2024 20:40 utc | 243
So the frog that turned into a prince comes home!

Posted by: Milites | Aug 9 2024 20:47 utc | 247

In response to

Instead, the Russians will continue to be surprised by the Empire’s escalations until the Empire launches a decapitation strike.
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2024 19:40 utc | 214

I don’t believe that empire can launch a decapitation strike against Russia by itself, let alone the China/Iran/NK/etc axis
Putin has declared that the Russia/China alliance has nuclear dominance at this time and that is why we are watching whack a “less than nuke” in Ukraine
If empire could decapitate they would have tried it before the China/Russia alliance firmed

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 9 2024 20:48 utc | 248

@bored | Aug 9 2024 18:53 utc | 194
Now there’s stories on pro-Russian telegram channels like “DD Geopolitics” that say Russia is requesting/getting missiles from Iran.
You have not linked to any source, because this is an incorrect rumors.
Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2024 19:00 utc | 199
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Thank you Norwegian, you are so correct, and that kind of false comments is why @bored is on the troll list.
Iran has exceptionally good Shaded Drones, which Russia has bought, and later copied, with permission from Iran of course. But no missiles.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 20:52 utc | 249

On the Internet, no-one knows that you are really a dog, or whatever. Such assertions are both unprovable and inherently dubious, as well as being a favourite tactic of those who want to conceal their true affiliations. You may be exactly what you claim, but there is no point in saying so. Your words (in aggregate) will prove your position.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 9 2024 18:17 utc | 176
Oh, I can prove I am who I say I am beyond a shadow of a doubt. Did you miss the significance of my youtube link? Do you want me to update it?
I’ll give you 1000 to 1 odds. You bet 1,000 dollars and I bet one million. I don’t actually have a million but that hardly matters since I’m right and by taking the bet you lose 1,000 dollars.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 20:52 utc | 250

@bored | Aug 9 2024 20:40 utc | 243
Thanks for the link. A problem is the link says source is “Two European intelligence sources to Reuters”.
We shall see.

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 9 2024 20:54 utc | 251

62….,long column…yup was a vid yesterday on one of the telegram channels….long long column of troops at a roadside many vehicles kinda waiting for the off…destination.Heck. Probably easily visible by satellite .

Posted by: Jo | Aug 9 2024 20:57 utc | 252

Machine translated: “Opportunity? The last such opportunity occurred when Hitler invaded Russia and 20 million lives were lost defending it.”
Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 9 2024 16:51 UTC | 127
That basically supports the argument repeated that Russia can now declare war.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Aug 9 2024 20:59 utc | 253

psychohistorian @248:

I don’t believe that empire can launch a decapitation strike against Russia by itself, let alone the China/Iran/NK/etc axis
Putin has declared that the Russia/China alliance has nuclear dominance at this time…

That is only meaningful if the gang running the Empire believes the Russians would actually respond by attacking the US even conventionally, not to speak of atomically. But they believe Russia wouldn’t do it, and they have reason for that belief. After all, the Russians won’t even shoot down an American drone.
But we don’t have to debate the issue. Just wait a little while.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 9 2024 21:02 utc | 254

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 9 2024 20:43 utc | 244
Russia is already sending a subliminal message, along with the Global South (aka Global Majority, aka nations of 7 billion people) and it’s a message putting huge fear into the rulers of the Western “golden billion”.
The message:

We no longer accept your assumption of the role as leaders of the world. We no longer accept your currencies as being backed by your “Full faith and credit”, aka a Carrier Battle Group in every ocean.
In future we will decide the price of our commodities that you wish to purchase, we will decide whether or not you can buy them in unrefined form so that you can “add value” by refining them yourselves, or we will decide to refine our commodities ourselves, thus “adding value” to our own economies.
We will decide the method of payment for your purchases, we may deign to continue to accept your pretty pieces of paper as long as we can convert them into something tangible and resilient, or we may decide that you pay us directly with something tangible and resilient.

This is the true nightmare scenario for the Western elites.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 21:02 utc | 255

Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 9 2024 18:11 utc | 171 “There are, at least in theory, many less crude ways to destroy or render useless satellites in orbit besides sending a missile to blow them up (with resulting space junk).”
Thanks for the reply.
There as been at least one public experiment with a space tug in the west. NASA has plans to build some this decade but I think that is as far as they have gotten so far.
The challenge with the space tug concept is the significant amount of fuel required to rendezvous with a satellite, adjust its orbit, and then move on to the next satellite. Achieving a rendezvous and performing orbital changes demands large quantities of fuel. Additionally, once a satellite reaches orbit, changing its trajectory by more than a few degrees is often very difficult due to the high delta-V requirements.
The US Space Force GAASP satellites are somewhat close to this concept. The people that track them have seen that it takes quite a while to maneuver to the next target.
Radiation in the Ka-band disperses according to the inverse square law, meaning that the signal strength decreases significantly with distance. As a result, satellites would need to be relatively close to their targets. Given the large number of satellites in orbit, especially in geostationary and low Earth orbits, this poses a challenge.

Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 9 2024 21:04 utc | 256

We no longer accept your assumption of the role as leaders of the world. We no longer accept your currencies as being backed by your “Full faith and credit”, aka a Carrier Battle Group in every ocean.
In future we will decide the price of our commodities that you wish to purchase, we will decide whether or not you can buy them in unrefined form so that you can “add value” by refining them yourselves, or we will decide to refine our commodities ourselves, thus “adding value” to our own economies.
We will decide the method of payment for your purchases, we may deign to continue to accept your pretty pieces of paper as long as we can convert them into something tangible and resilient, or we may decide that you pay us directly with something tangible and resilient.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 21:02 utc | 255
I’m assuming that’s not an actual quote. If Russia and China both would act on that, then we’re talking.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 21:07 utc | 257

One clever but hopeless feint-cum-photo-op on the part of 404, and most of the usually sane barflies turn into vargas clones.
Small wonder bevin left.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 9 2024 21:08 utc | 258

If empire could decapitate they would have tried it before the China/Russia alliance firmed
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 9 2024 20:48 utc | 248
Perimeter…

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 9 2024 21:09 utc | 259

“Remind me to never employ sarcasm on this site again…”
Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 9 2024 17:41 utc | 149
I would be my pleasure. Any time. /s

Posted by: David G Horsman | Aug 9 2024 21:13 utc | 260

I’m assuming that’s not an actual quote. If Russia and China both would act on that, then we’re talking.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 21:07 utc | 257
You are correct, it is not a direct quote, just a formatting foible of mine.
That aside, Russia, China and others are already acting; “Slowlee, slowlee, catchee monkee”.
The Western mindset is too hung up on seeking instant gratification, instant results. Gotta think of the quarterly bonus, above all other considerations. This shortsightedness will cause the ultimate downfall.
Nukes don’t come into it, because they will ruin the figures that generate the managerial quarterly bonus.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 21:24 utc | 261

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 9 2024 21:08 utc | 258
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My sense is that Bevin left due to how things have unraveled in the ME.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 9 2024 21:26 utc | 262

Hypothetically, let’s say Ukraine captures that power plant 30-some km away.
Then what?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 9 2024 21:42 utc | 263

DD Geopolitics
🇷🇺🇮🇷 Two European intelligence sources to Reuters: – Iran will supply Russia with hundreds of ballistic missiles soon. – Dozens of Russian soldiers are training in Iran on the ballistic missile system. According to the sources, the deal will revolve around…
🇮🇷🇷🇺 Iran’s mission to the United Nations has confirmed that the Reuters report about Tehran sending missiles to Russia is false.
The mission said in a statement: “We avoid delivering any weapons, including missiles, which could be used in the conflict in Ukraine
Posted by: bored | Aug 9 2024 20:40 utc | 243
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Well, there you have it, bored put on the troll jacket and paraded it in front of all the MoA commentors to s.ee. Iran denies it, but according to bored, “A short while ago, Reuters quoted what it called ‘European intelligence sources’ as saying that Iran “will soon supply Russia with hundreds of ballistic missiles”…[t]he agency reported, citing the same sources, that “dozens of Russian soldiers are training in Iran on the ballistic missile system,” which the mission denied.
So, let me see: Iran says NO, it not true, but Reuters has two sources in the “European intelligence(?)” who says yes, it’s true. Well, that does it, we should always take the word of unknown “European Intelligence” sources in MSM over those lying Muslims in Iran.
For me, bored, and I expect for many other commentors here at MoA, your comments are suspect.
Also, DD Geopolitics is a reputable site, Danny Harpoing is a straight shooter as far as I know: That is why he provided the Iran refutation of the Reuters story.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 21:43 utc | 264

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 20:52 utc | 250
Yeah. You might claim it’s you in a video, but what is there to prove you are the same person as ‘you’ here on MoA? You could have an accomplice – even many of them. You can’t prove anything, especially in an era of AI fakery.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 9 2024 21:44 utc | 265

So, let me see: Iran says NO, it not true, but Reuters has two sources in the “European intelligence(?)” who says yes, it’s true. Well, that does it, we should always take the word of unknown “European Intelligence” sources in MSM over those lying Muslims in Iran.
Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 21:43 utc | 264
I find it troublesome that people on Russian Telegram are always quoting western sources about the war when the western sources are always replete of deception.
You would think they have better sources closer to the action. Even when the western sources talk about Ukrainian weaknesses or are sometimes seemingly complimentary about Russia in the war, these are likely deceptions to get Russia off its guard.
It is too bad that Iran is not supplying Russia with these, though. You have a 100 countries helping NATO-backed Ukraine, but barely any really helping Russia.

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 9 2024 21:48 utc | 266

Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 21:43 utc | 264
“European intelligence”… yep, there’s the very definition of ‘oxymoron’…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 9 2024 21:49 utc | 267

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 9 2024 20:15 utc | 229
Hmmm. Maybe even Egypt would be too much for you then. Maybe just stick to Corsica, take up subsistence farming instead of pseudo-commenting. We will all find that much more rewarding.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 9 2024 21:50 utc | 268

Posted by: Boo | Aug 9 2024 15:55 utc | 96
Sobering commentary.

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 9 2024 21:54 utc | 269

My sense is that Bevin left due to how things have unraveled in the ME.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 9 2024 21:26 utc | 262
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Are you suggesting that Bevin is pro-Genocide in Gaza? Is he a Zionist?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 21:59 utc | 270

Since the referendums in 2022, virtually the entire frontline has been within Russia. A few months back Russia opened the frontline in Kharkov which is outside Russia’s borders.
This Nato raid in to a quiet part of the border simply opens up a new area of frontline, currently in Russian territory but likely to move back out of Russian territory.
Whatever Nato casualties were per day prior to this, another 200 per day or more will be added due to the extra frontline.
Russian strikes into 404 back areas have been ongoing since the start of the conflict. Many, many concentrations of Nato/404 troops destroyed in that time. Against that background, Nato managed to get in just one strike on a Russian troop concentration….
Its a war. Shit happens, but I would far sooner be a Russian soldier than a unit of 404 dog meat.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2024 22:01 utc | 271

DD Geopolitics
🇷🇺🇮🇷 Two European intelligence sources to Reuters: – Iran will supply Russia with hundreds of ballistic missiles soon. – Dozens of Russian soldiers are training in Iran on the ballistic missile system. According to the sources, the deal will revolve around…
Posted by: bored | Aug 9 2024 20:40 utc | 243
Yeah, sure, there must be hundreds of russian soldiers (in fact specialists in EW, radar, IRS an missiles) inside Iran, but not for the reason Reuters mention, but (I hope) to hit hard the yanks

Posted by: Dave | Aug 9 2024 22:15 utc | 272

Vargas, you seem to hold the Anglo-Saxons in high esteem.
Do you agree with their stances on genocide and rape?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 9 2024 20:28 utc | 237
Of course not.
But we must not underestimate them.
They are not idiots.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:15 utc | 273

ZH: Pentagon Refuses To Rule Out Strikes On Moscow In Shocking Exchange On Ukraine’s Incursion Into Kursk
you see. They would not stop, they go further. They are not afraid.
Russia is not able to do a decisive strike on Ukraine.
Not enough soldiers, not enough will.
The elite in Russia still dreams about visiting Toscana again.
I am not happy about that, but it is so.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:20 utc | 274

Yeah. You might claim it’s you in a video, but what is there to prove you are the same person as ‘you’ here on MoA? You could have an accomplice – even many of them. You can’t prove anything, especially in an era of AI fakery.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Aug 9 2024 21:44 utc | 265
Okay. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsaPFeDm4No
Do you know the story behind the KPD/ml? Very few Germans do. These are physical leaflets handed down to me by my late political mentor in the nineties. I also included two Swedish translations.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 22:22 utc | 275

Russia was the most unlucky country of the 20 century. lost 26 million in ww2 defeating the nazis, so the US could get the glory and thanks from Europe, as all of it became its vassal. Not only that, but, after all the privation and work they went through, had it all collapse, as the US only grew. Even states that used to be one with russia (ukraine) now either look at it as inferior mongol horde, or try to exploit it (armenia, georgia…) as much as they can. Russia a country that collapsed physically/economically countless times (…1917,1922,1932,1945,1991,1998,2008) watches as the US/NATO cucks it with former Warsaw pact/soviet states, having only empoverished African countries on its side 😥 🏴‍☠️

Posted by: Yeltsin | Aug 9 2024 22:26 utc | 276

Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:15 utc | 273
You just proved that you are an idiot.
Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:20 utc | 274
An a liar.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 9 2024 22:28 utc | 277

Posted by: Yeltsin | Aug 9 2024 22:26 utc | 276
Frankly that’s just nonsense.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 22:29 utc | 278

Credit to the VSU. It was a well planned and executed operation. It took advantage of a Russian weakness and the whole big fast push with mechanized infantry and special units is what NATO is good at, so the Ukrainians are going to be better at it than other doctrines. The question is really how long can those troops be supplied and reinforced and/or are there Ukrainian reserves to throw at it.
Kiev has been talking about an offensive for a while. Everyone assumed ZNPP but there’s a very good chance this is it. The element of surprise would be an order of magnitude different than a quiet front. The ongoing collapse in Donetsk still needs to be staunched or it will blossom.
Nonetheless, the Doomers have some points unless Russia mops this incursion up in three weeks or less. I would think that before a general mobilization we would see a law that conscripts can participate in the conflict and then see the whole of the Russian army. Arguably, this would be necessary to have time to train and equip the mobilized.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 9 2024 22:29 utc | 279

I wold like Russia to win in this war as multipolar world is better.
But I do not let emotions to overwhelm me when analyzing what is happening.
Putin tried to save Russian middle class from the war, to start it without convincing the population that it was a total war. That doesn’t work, as for Ukraine and the west, this is a total war.
Imagine NATO attack on Kaliningrad that has almost no strategic depth.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:32 utc | 280

Putin tried to save Russian middle class from the war
Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:32 utc | 280
Please define the middle class. Do you mean the petty bourgeoisie? It’s a nonsense term. You use it when you’re too scared to come out and say “workers.”

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 22:33 utc | 281

Nothing against idiots and fools. The reality of the facts is simple to understand.
No one sends their LAST TROOPS, who are “hunting” in the streets, and NATO EQUIPMENT, on an adventure if it is not the last survival move. The last breath.
What will happen after the Russian Forces massacre this pointless adventure?

Posted by: Rick | Aug 9 2024 22:37 utc | 282

Patroklos | Aug 9 2024 21:54 utc | 269
This sort of thing could easily be predicted back at the time Biden was given the thumbs down with that Trump Biden debate.
The UK, the European elite, and whatever part of the US deep state that still has Obama Biden Harris et al as its public face becoming desperate.
There was also the Ukraine tg channels Resident and Legitimate which have proved quite accurate on 404/Nato intentions.
This period leading up to the US elections, up to the inauguration is a very dangerous period with UK and Europe desperate to pull the US deeper into the war against Russia prior to the elections. There will be plenty of false flags and propaganda stunts. This is just one.
The reaction in places like this, on the Russian larper channels ect – its a bit over the top, like a classroom full of adolescent schoolgirls on speed and whatever other pills they can find and swallow.
I assume there is still more provocations, false flags ect to come – looks like the offensive to try and take the ZNPP is still on – great opportunity for a nuclear false flag there….
These months leading up to the US elections, most of these 404 threads will probably be a waste of time trying to read – like this one.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2024 22:37 utc | 283

💥The Russian military successfully intercepted an attempted landing by Ukrainian marines near Kherson and effectively neutralised a group of sea drones that were headed for Crimea.
💥A fleet of unmanned surface vessels had been spotted heading towards the Black Sea Fleet base in Sevastopol.
💥The Russian Defence Ministry released combat camera footage on Friday, showcasing the destruction of the targets in the water.
💥The ministry stated that seven unmanned boats in the Black Sea were destroyed by the on-duty fire systems, without providing further details.
💥Ukes also suffered casualties from a field of sea mines and those who were able to reach the shore were killed by small-arms fire. The invaders suffered losses of three boats and 12 saboteurs.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 9 2024 22:42 utc | 284

A 48-year-old resident from the Kurst village of Oktyabrskoye was detained by FSB for transmitting information to the UAF.
Why all these “concerns” with the situation in Kurst? Didn’t something similar happened in Belgorod?
Remember ladies, there are millions of “Ukrainians” in every part of NATO countries. When the time comes, the sleeper cells will be activated.
Meanwhile, sit back, grab your favorite beverage and enjoy the action.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 9 2024 22:46 utc | 285

Please define the middle class. Do you mean the petty bourgeoisie? It’s a nonsense term. You use it when you’re too scared to come out and say “workers.”
Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 22:33 utc | 281
Lets say that Putin tried to save urban population including petty bourgeoisie.
His stance is understandable.
But not appropriate.
It is as if the Russian elite does not want to believe that they are rejected, that they are not part of the Western civilization any more.
They are rejected like Arabs, they cannot stand that.
They are waiting for a miracle but there is no miracle.
Russia is now a colonial loot of Rotschilds. The Russian educated class thought that they would be somehow accepted, respected…. but in vain.
Putin tried to save those people from the war.
The west needs Russian minerals and they are ready to destroy Russian people to get these minerals.
But maybe, this last Russian failure would prompt some changes in their minds.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:47 utc | 286

Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:32 utc | 280
You yourself answered the question you asked.
Why should Putin “start an all-out war?”
“Imagine a NATO attack on Kaliningrad that has almost no strategic depth.”
Did you see Moscow tonight, Friday, or tomorrow Saturday?
The clubs, nightclubs, restaurants?
Everyone giving a shit about the US/EU/NATO idiots
NATO has become the world’s JOKE.
They have known since the beginning of the Special Military Operation that Ukraine, with cocaine snorting, would NEVER WIN this war.
And now they know that not even the clowns gathered from 40 countries are capable of beating Russia.

Posted by: Rick | Aug 9 2024 22:55 utc | 287

Posted by: vargas | Aug 9 2024 22:47 utc | 286
You didn’t answer the question. Just stop using that silly term. “Middle class” is Americanese for “uh, anyone who isn’t a multimillionaire and not begging for food on the streets.” Hardly a stable ground for class consciousness, but I guess that’s the whole point of its popularity.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 9 2024 22:55 utc | 288

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 9 2024 22:42 utc | 284 more of “ukraine has lost all, they will collapse tomorrow” routine. After hundreds of thousands of former russians and current russians, killed one another. nato invades Russia, and sends more weapons for UK and RU to kill each other. enriching MIC and succeeding in demonizing Russia. And after all the attacks and offenses, russians can’t stop swooning over Europe’s fashion tech and pop-culture, waiting to be part of the “European community” if only were given a chance. A masochist country that likes humiliation and pain from its betters in western eu.

Posted by: Yeltsin | Aug 9 2024 22:55 utc | 289

🔥Apparently, heavy casualties have been inflicted on the invading Ukrainian army by Russian forces. According to an update provided by the Russian Defence Ministry on Friday, Kiev has suffered casualties of up to 945 men and 102 armoured vehicles, including 12 tanks and 17 armoured personnel carriers, in the onslaught.
🔥Meanwhile, the Ukrainian assault has been stopped and an operation to remove the invaders was started on Wednesday and appears to be effective.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 9 2024 22:57 utc | 290

Strikes me as strange that the Russian general staff has not developed such contingency op-plans.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 9 2024 16:00 utc | 98
One word, civilians.
The presence of civilians prevents heavy equipment being used. Helicopter gunships, planes, artillery, these are all present. Their use is limited in the settlements.
Border/police forces have small arms which are insufficient for stopping armoured vehicles but put up a brave fight until reinforcements arrived.
Current complains in Russia is why no Territorial volunteer force was raised in this region. Unlike Ukraine and the US, having too many armed militias running around can always backfire. And again, what’s a couple more hundred AK 47s going to do to an AFV?
The only problem in Kurst is immediacy. news travel fast rumours travel faster.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 9 2024 22:59 utc | 291

HERMIUS | Aug 9 2024 22:57 utc | 290
Russia has been hitting the backlines in Sumy and up into Kursk region very hard virtually since the start. The small unit photo ops crews got some propaganda photos but the main forces to hold the ground have been hit hard. Casualties likely higher than MoD numbers.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 9 2024 23:03 utc | 292

HERMIUS | Aug 9 2024 22:57 utc | 290
This could be THE fatal blow for Kiev, I think. Russia needs to expel them from the Kurst region and continue to chase them into Ukraine. Once the collapse of these forces starts and they’re on the run, that is when most progress will be made. Chase them all the way to Kharkov and Kiev. Dont give them any time to regroup.
This is the beginning of the end for Kiev!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 9 2024 23:15 utc | 293

Postado por: HERMIUS | 9 de agosto de 2024 22:42 utc | Mais 284
I’m honestly curious to know what it means to “swoon” over Europe’s fashion technology and pop culture, waiting to be part of the “European community”?
Sorry!
But I can’t stop LAUGHING.
You must have memory problems.
Today we see hatred towards immigrants across Europe. (I was in Italy 6 months ago).
I think the Europeans, the stupid poodle dogs in the USA, don’t remember what NATO did in Syria, Libya, Afghanistan and other countries.
What are imbeciles LIKE YOU complaining about? Syria was one of the most socially developed countries in the world in Africa. You probably don’t even know where Africa is on the map.
The criminals from Europe/USA/NATO destroyed this country and now they “complain” about immigrants” – I want you and the hypocrites to go fuck themselves

Posted by: Rick | Aug 9 2024 23:15 utc | 294

Posted by: Yeltsin | Aug 9 2024 22:26 utc | 276
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Are you familiar with China?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 9 2024 23:17 utc | 295

Syria is part of Africa and the Middle East.

Posted by: Rick | Aug 9 2024 23:19 utc | 296

But the Bloomberg writer comes up with a different theory – that the attack was made to unbalance Russia:
Posted by b on August 9, 2024 at 11:15 UTC
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The Kursk diversion has worked very well as this thread proves. Ukies are now inside a fire bag and will be burnt, which might take up to a week to get all those hiding. For those of us watching, Team Zelinsky continually promised some type of offensive and was pooh-poohed by most, but it’s clear that one was being arranged and has now been launched. And it will soon end. I expect Russia to use its counterattack to move well onto the other side of the border and thus create another front the Ukies will be forced to defend. I also see this action as Zelensky saving his own neck.
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9 2024 16:09 utc | 104
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Obviously it did come as a shock so I don’t think it was a ‘deliberate trap’, and now the general sentiment in infosphere seems to be AFU rolling back somewhat and digging trenches. This is a somewhat worse outcome, as it will take time to dig them out of the hole and opens a new less mobile front.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 9 2024 16:27 utc | 114
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Bloomberg, being Bloomberg, seems now at loose ends.
Two MoA veterans and barflies of very long standing have summed it up well above. NATO is running on fumes and the end is near, hence Zelensky now relentlessly pushing ‘negotiations’ while being put on ignore by Putin.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 9 2024 23:19 utc | 297

Posted by: Rick | Aug 9 2024 23:15 utc | 294
Errr. Excuse me, dear sir. I’m not sure if your post is aimed at me by mistake, but I have nothing against immigrants.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 9 2024 23:19 utc | 298

Posted by: Rick | Aug 9 2024 22:37 utc | 282
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Good point Rick. This is not a victory lap; it is a last gasp of air for Zelensky and his Nazis army. All videos of the Kursk incursion should have a sound tract of a funeral dirge in the background.
The war is over, but the corpse is still moving.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 9 2024 23:22 utc | 299

Can someone please explain why Russia hasn’t eliminated Ukraine energy production? Why speak of nukes when even that much hasn’t been accomplished? I’m not being rhetorical. I’m not a military expert, and maybe there are reasons for failing to do this. I just don’t know.

Posted by: Turner | Aug 9 2024 23:26 utc | 300