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August 2, 2024
Ukraine SitRep: Catch up

Due to my recent health issues I could not report on Ukraine for quite a while. This is my first attempt to catch up with the issue.

Given the huge size of Ukraine the changes in the front line between April 1 and August 1 seem minuscule.

April 1 2024

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But the small moves on the map disguise a rather large progress for the Russian forces.

In May some 30,000 Russian troops crossed the northern border from Russia towards Kharkiv. They quickly reached a depth of some 15 kilometer but then stopped to make fast progress. According the Russian president Vladimir Putin the forces were tasked to prevent further Ukrainian artillery attacks on Belgorod. They have mostly achieved that purpose.

But the Ukrainian side interpreted the move as an attack on Kharkiv with the purported aim to take Ukraine's second largest city. It panicked.

Troops that had been pulled back because of losses were redirected to Kharkiv. Brigades that were fighting in the Donetsk region in the east were moved north to block the Russian forces. In total some 40,000 Ukrainian soldiers were pulled from elsewhere and pushed into the Kharkiv region. They were tasked with counterattacking the Russian forces.

This fitted the Russian plans very well. The whole attack near Kharkiv had been planned as a diversion from other fronts. The troops deployed in the north went into defense and concentrated on eliminating counterattacking Ukrainian forces.

While this was ongoing the Russian forces on the Donetsk front found that the man- and fighting power of their local opponents had sharply decreased. They attacked and soon made significant progress.

Months ago it took weeks to take a small town or to jump to the next treeline. Now the Russian forces make jumps of several kilometer per day and take new towns on a daily and sometimes hourly basis.

The maps of the eastern front show rather large progress in several directions.

April 1 2024

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In the south the Russian forces east of Vuhledar moved north and cut one of the supply roads to the city.

To the north west of Donetsk city Russian forces made huge progress towards Pokrovsk city, one of the main road and rail crossings in the region. Pokrovsk is already in normal artillery range and the Ukrainian forces defending its approaches seem to be utterly worn out.

North east of the Pokrovsk front Russian forces are in the process of taking the New York agglomeration of several cities from the north as well as from the south.

A bit further north moves from Kurdiumivka and from Chasiv Yar are aiming at taking Konstantinovka, another major city controlling various crossroads.

All the above moves were possible because Ukraine had moved whatever was available towards the Kharkiv front. The defense units left behind in the Donetsk region were simply not enough to hold the line against the still growing Russian forces.

A new push for mobilization has helped Ukraine to bring fresh troops to the front. They are however not increasing the forces but simply replace the large losses Ukrainian brigades have had. A recent New York Times piece mentioned this in an aside note (archived):

Ukraine Is Conscripting Thousands More Troops. But Are They Ready?
Large numbers of recruits will arrive at the front in the coming weeks, soldiers and military analysts said, but some are poorly trained or out of shape.

The Ukrainian authorities have declined to share conscription figures, arguing that the information is confidential. Three military experts with knowledge of the figures said that Kyiv had been drafting up to 30,000 people a month since May, when a new conscription law took effect. That is two to three times more than during the last winter months, they said, and about the same number that the Russian Army is recruiting each month. That figure could not be independently confirmed.

Gen. Yurii Sodol, a former commander of the Ukrainian forces, told Parliament in April that in certain sections of the front, Russians outnumbered Ukrainians by more than seven to one.

In addition to the conscripts, Ukraine has released some 3,800 prisoners to serve in exchange for the possibility of parole at the end of their fighting duties, according to Denys Maliuska, the justice minister.

A medic fighting near the eastern Ukrainian town of Toretsk, one of the hottest points on the front line, said that her brigade had received 2,000 conscripts and prisoners in the past two months. The medic spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid giving information to Russian forces.

Mr. Voytenkov, the press officer for the 33rd, said his brigade gave one week of additional training to conscripts to show them the weapons and armored vehicles that they would be using. After just the basic training, he said, “they are not ready to fight, honestly.”

Toretsk is part of the New York agglomeration. A Ukraine brigade has a nominal strength of some 3,000 to 4,000 men. If it has needed 2,000 replacements in two months, as the medic claims, it must have taken enormous losses.

The new recruits are mostly untrained and not fit for war. The units they are sent to lack the junior leaders needed to train them. The new men will thereby become cannon fodder with little chance to survive Russian attacks or bombing.

The new mobilization was partly intended to create new reserves. But when active troops need replacements of this size the numbers left for new forces will be too small to make a difference.

In a recent interview with the Guardian the Ukrainian commander in chief General Syrsky made some optimistic noise about 'winning'. But the numbers he cited all point to an overwhelming Russian forces that will easily smash whatever is left in Ukraine to oppose them:

Syrskyi is Ukraine’s new commander-in-chief. His unenviable task is to defeat a bigger Russian army. Two and half years into Vladimir Putin’s full-scale onslaught, he acknowledges the Russians are much better resourced. They have more of everything: tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, soldiers. Their original 100,000-strong invasion force has grown to 520,000, he said, with a goal by the end of 2024 of 690,000 men. The figures for Ukraine have not been made public.

“When it comes to equipment, there is a ratio of 1:2 or 1:3 in their favour,” he said. Since 2022 the number of Russian tanks has “doubled” – from 1,700 to 3,500. Artillery systems have tripled, and armoured personnel carriers gone up from 4,500 to 8,900. “The enemy has a significant advantage in force and resources,” Syrskyi said. “Therefore, for us, the issue of supply, the issue of quality, is really at the forefront.”

There are little if any new supplies coming for the Ukrainian forces. The 'West' has given Ukraine everything it could spare and anything that comes on top of that will have to be newly produced. The capacities to do that in the required numbers are no longer existing.

Aside from the immediate military problems the civilian side of Ukraine is on an ever accelerating down-path. Russian attacks have destroyed nearly all conventional power generation capacities in Ukraine. There are daily blackouts. Food is perishing in the shops and many industries had to stop working.

The Ukrainian government needs money. It needs to introduce new taxes against the resistance of its population. It has already defaulted on foreign debt and new credit lines will be difficult to come by.

The real pressure though will come this winter. Large parts of Ukraine's cities depend on the now dysfunctional power generating capacities to heat their Soviet style housing blocks. With electricity and heat lacking more and more people will think of moving abroad.

It is unlikely that Poland and other neighboring countries of Ukraine will generously welcome even more refugees from Ukraine.

Comments

Milton@44……it’s an exponential thing……hang in there.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 2 2024 22:30 utc | 101

A Few Thoughts
First, delusion has some advantages. Ukr. can claim victory no matter what. They stopped Putin from invading Europe and caused such injury that Russia will undoubtedly collapse in a month or two from lack of soldiers or tanks or missiles or inflation or whatever.
Second, Arestovich thinks Russia could thrust Ukraine into 18th century living with 2 or 3 missile strikes on power plants. I think Putin still has some restraint. That needs to change. Even abject collapse may not bring peace unless individual Ukr. cities can negotiate independently. Who’s going to risk a bullet in the back by Azov?
Finally, some genius responded to the Neo Con’s wet dream of breaking up Russia by pointing out that a heck of a lot of nukes could end up in the hands of crazy ass republics no one’s ever heard of. Think of Kadyrov and the Chechens as a nuclear power. That might be fun to watch

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 2 2024 22:33 utc | 102

robin @43: “And before even going into the aspects of de-nazification and what the term actually means on the ground, it isn’t clear how Russia could impose any sort of political change in Ukraine.”
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Don’t worry yourself about the Nazis, robin.. . .
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 2 2024 19:27 utc | 57
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To be fair, the original question was mine, and it was honestly asked: a genuine question.
So, to get back to my question, it does seem as though Russia will have to gain control of the whole territory in order to carry out an effective cleansing and to defang Ukraine-on-Doorstep.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 2 2024 22:39 utc | 103

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 2 2024 16:29 utc | 15
The broken record is back !

Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 2 2024 22:48 utc | 104

In all fairness, it was a silly criticism against you. But, no sense of humour? Well, does not the charge suit the accuser just as well?. . .
Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 2 2024 21:35 utc | 90
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No, it doesn’t.
Originality: Failing grade.
Nisi experiri non cigar, Mr. Debet habere ultimum verbum.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 2 2024 22:52 utc | 105

Jane | Aug 2 2024 22:39 utc | 103
Still plenty of time for that. Too many can only think in terms of UUS ‘shock and awe’ and so called nation building.
The war is against Nato, and plenty of time for sorting out whats left of 404 after Nato ceases to exist. Simply grabbing a bit of territory with a hostile population is a waste of time while Nato still exists.
By the end of the year, the most part of the conflict will likely be finished due to Nato running out of Ukroid cannon fodder. Best to wait till then and see what happens. But is quite likely that the Ukrainians will start doing a clean up the nazi trash themselves.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 22:53 utc | 106

it does seem as though Russia will have to gain control of the whole territory in order to carry out an effective cleansing and to defang Ukraine-on-Doorstep.
Posted by: Jane | Aug 2 2024 22:39 utc | 103
I’ve been saying this since the retreat from the high-tide mark. Not only will Russian need to occupy Ukraine to deNazify it, it will need a protracted war to build up the axis of resistance and defeat the west economically. The former will probably be achieved by the latter, rather than big-arrow offensives or the capitulation of the banderite puppet regime. When the west gives up, Ukraine will collapse, and Russia will go where they please.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 2 2024 22:55 utc | 107

But is quite likely that the Ukrainians will start doing a clean up the nazi trash themselves.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 22:53 utc | 106
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I certainly hope so.
Someone will have to form a government of some kind, to keep the lights on (figuratively speaking).

Posted by: Jane | Aug 2 2024 22:58 utc | 108

Gas transit and fees contract Russia via Ukraine comes to an end November am I right?
Brussels and Zukraine stop oil pipeline to Hungary and co …so in return their electricity to Zukraine ceases…..gonna get cold there…

Posted by: Jo | Aug 2 2024 22:59 utc | 109

Chasiv Yar: Very static. And very strong position for UFA to defend.
Luhansk: Donno…pretty static, boring also.
Kharkiv: Pretty static, with some indications of UFA having more the initiative recently.
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 2 2024 16:29 utc | 15
As long as Kiev is willing to send its forces to die on RF’s preferred line of advance, why would they risk major river crossings? The fundamental issue is, what part of the front is Kiev willing to give up? They’ve tried to block the Russians advances, but they can’t. To stop retreating would require more troops and equipment than they have, so they simply delay things at Washington’s request. At some point, even this becomes impossible. That point is near, because Ukrainians are talking about negotiations.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 2 2024 23:01 utc | 110

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 2 2024 22:30 utc | 100
Think of water, how if if a stream is blocked it will flow around an obstacle, lapping at its edges, seeking any gap it can exploit, and when it does how it surges forward until blocked again. That’s what you’re witnessing but, instead of water surging, these streams are streams of metal and flesh, constantly on the move.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 23:05 utc | 111

nobody actually wants a Nazi for a neighbor, except maybe Canadians.
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 2 2024 19:27 utc | 57
Now now Gruff. While i get yer drift, the decision to allow natzi in the country wasnt a regular canadian choice, it was made by someone/thing else. Now I can excuse someone w a low education/intelligence for not knowing that if u fought against russia in ww2 you werent an ally. But MP’s and the PM should know better. That they didn’t just means the entire political apparatus today is just as decrepit as it was when the decision to allow them in was made.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 2 2024 23:11 utc | 112

b is back. Grateful to have his updated analysis of Ukraine’s deteriorating situation.
The only question now: when do the defeated Ukies sue for peace?

Posted by: Jim H | Aug 2 2024 23:14 utc | 113

Jane@103…..you are 100% correct. No 404 capitulation, no peace for Russia. Deniable terror attacks will occur all over Russia for years to come…..Nord Stream Redux. As per Russian sources, they need at minimum a 200k buffer zone…..that’s a long way to go at today’s current SMO attrition rate.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 2 2024 23:20 utc | 114

The only question now: when do the defeated Ukies sue for peace?
Posted by: Jim H | Aug 2 2024 23:14 utc | 113
I dont think they will. I see it being imposed upon them.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 2 2024 23:21 utc | 115

“Think of water, how if if a stream is blocked it will flow around an obstacle, lapping at its edges, seeking any gap it can exploit, and when it does how it surges forward until blocked again. That’s what you’re witnessing but, instead of water surging, these streams are streams of metal and flesh, constantly on the move.”
Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 23:05 utc | 111
Excellent metaphor

Posted by: canuck | Aug 2 2024 23:30 utc | 116

@boneless | Aug 2 2024 22:12 utc | 97
If you want to assign collective guilt to all of Ukraine for the thought crimes of Bandera, be my guest. As to the actions of Bandera — would it matter if they worshipped Haile Selassie? I hope not.
Russia committed war crimes against breakaway Chechnya, yet now you cry ‘Hitler’ ‘Fascist’ when Ukraine attacks their breakaway regions.
You don’t care about fascism. Putin is worth ~ $200 billion, he jails the opposition, makes it illegal to call the SMO a war, dissolves his term limits. Vlad even uses the same argument Hitler did to invade nations — protecting ethnic [Russians/Germans].
Putin is an exploitive fascist by definition, yet I have more class than to paint the Russian side as fascists. Is admiring Stalin superior to admiring Hitler? To what degree?
You are not only clichéd but syrupy, as you pick and chose who is evil and then feign indignation to the non-believers of your dogma.
Denazification? What you really want to do is judge groups of people as sub-humans, not deserving life, and watch others eliminate them. You haven’t changed since your days as a spectator in the Roman Colosseum, Citizen Boneless. Bourgeois society has desensitized you.

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 2 2024 23:45 utc | 117

Come on Napoleon, didn’t you learn anything during your exile?

Posted by: morongobill | Aug 2 2024 23:49 utc | 118

Putin talked about one of the headchoppers the Russians had tracked down and killed.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 2 2024 21:40 utc | 92
Thanks Peter for putting the two together. I had completely forgotten and makes sense.

Posted by: Menz | Aug 2 2024 23:51 utc | 119

A military mind only sees military solutions. The Russians have become masters of economic diplomacy under Putin. They can not only rebuild, but they can feed and power the next Ukraine without much cost to the Federation, certainly relative to the cost of continued war with NATO.
I am not a strategist. I am spit-balling based on what I have seen Russia do in Central Asia, West Asia, and Africa.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 2 2024 21:44 utc | 94
Have you read what I said in 20?
The main job after wining the SMO is for Putin to convince a significant part of the young 20 million hat left that the new ukraine will be better than being the slightly less offensive looking servants in the west.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 23:59 utc | 120

“Think of water, how if if a stream is blocked it will flow around an obstacle, lapping at its edges, seeking any gap it can exploit, and when it does how it surges forward until blocked again. That’s what you’re witnessing but, instead of water surging, these streams are streams of metal and flesh, constantly on the move.”
Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 23:05 utc | 111
Excellent metaphor
Posted by: canuck | Aug 2 2024 23:30 utc | 116
I guess nobody like the tendrils” I could have gone for tentacles but it was too Hentai…

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 0:03 utc | 121

Re Russia having to occupy all of Ukraine to denazify it. Not long back, Poland put up a large monument to those massacred in Volyn. The centerpiece was a Ukrainian holding an impaled baby high in the air on a trident – or pitchfork with three prongs.
Quite some time ago, Medvedev pretty much told Poland to take western Ukraine. When the collapse of Ukraine comes, and it will happen, Poland will likely grab Galicia and Volyn.
If the stuff about the refugees crossing from Belarus into Poland some years ago, mass graves in the forest and so forth, then it will likely be Poland that gives western Ukraine a cleanup. And I guessing the Poles will be fare more indiscriminate about who they eliminate.
It could be that the Poles would try and keep using them against Russia, but if I were a Ukraine nazi, I wouldn’t be relying on that idea too much.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 0:06 utc | 122

The main job after wining the SMO is…to convince a significant part of the young 20 million hat left that the new ukraine will be better than being the slightly less offensive looking servants in the west.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 2 2024 23:59 utc | 120

Lots of people, trying to return to Russia get their requests denied because of the history of their online support of the Nazies and hatred towards Russia. Even those, who discard their phones and try to pass through the border without any mobile trace get their online history picked up on face recognition.
So I think, that the main job after losing the SMO for the Ukraine survivors would be to convince the victors that they deserve the second chance to return to their normal life.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 3 2024 0:19 utc | 123

“Think of water, how if if a stream is blocked it will flow around an obstacle, lapping at its edges, seeking any gap it can exploit, and when it does how it surges forward until blocked again. That’s what you’re witnessing but, instead of water surging, these streams are streams of metal and flesh, constantly on the move.”
Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 23:05 utc | 111
I like the thoughts about water. Water will always seek the path of least resistance. Both thoughts provoke an interesting thought experiment when considering the human even in death still contains 80+% of it. Thanks.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 3 2024 0:21 utc | 124

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 2 2024 22:55 utc | 107
I do not fully agree. What Russia must do is subdue Ukraine and NATO sufficiently to get nukes and other really dangerous weapons away from their borders. They do not need to de Nazify the whole of Ukraine but defang it.
To do this I absolutely agree that they must get NATO and other aggressors out of the Black Sea. This after all is what WWI was all about for Russia, only it was the restricted NATO (Germany, Austria, Hungary and Turkey) it was bothered by. So yes Odessa must be taken or potentially becomes an international neutral city state with no weapons. Pretty much the same about Nikolayev, but it is further inland so perhaps too close to Russia to be allowed independence. They will have to get Kherson back as part of a settlement. Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhia is probably a sufficient buffer for Moscow, provided Kharkov and Sumy are neutral but I suppose that Kharkov is almost an essential retake by Russia for security.
However beyond this is is not such a big worry from within Ukraine. A much, much, much bigger problem for Russia are the Baltics, Finland, Poland, Germany, Sweden and Norway which threaten St Petersburg. This is where the real danger lies. if Russia is able to deplete NATO weaponry from these nations then they will be in a much more powerful position. Until they do they are at very real risk.
When (not if) the USA starts its war on China, Europe will be abandoned, but may have virtually no weapons left nor ability to make more quickly.

Posted by: watcher | Aug 3 2024 0:54 utc | 125

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 3 2024 0:21 utc | 124
It’s why I smile when the YT commentators talk in breathless terms about Russian troops being blocked and having to attack from other directions, as though it was a failure of combat arms and not a standard assault by echelon manoeuvre. I was told the Russians either advance or slide, I liked that image of the Slidin’ Soviets.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 0:03 utc | 121
I like those imaginative metaphors, especially the cephalopodic one, as they stress the relentless attempt to probe and entangle forces; however, water, I feel, captures the constant searching for weakness, and pressure across the front.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 0:56 utc | 126

osted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 3 2024 0:21 utc | 124
Yes I suggested the pipe analogy the other day and I think it is just like a water pipe. The small leaks started in late 2023, and now it is a big leak. In some places it looks as if the pipe is about to burst. As of today there are at least 15 settlements in Donetsk heavily contested (or taken- Vesele) and a heap more under serious pressure. even Vulehah looks to be coming under serious pressure again.
I think the really big test for Russia this year is Zaporizhia city. It is in a very strategically important location.

Posted by: watcher | Aug 3 2024 1:02 utc | 127

Milites | Aug 3 2024 0:56 utc | 126
It seems to me the Russian strategy is to exert constant strong pressure all along the front – Force Ukraine/Nato to defend, to keep feeding forces in. Ukraine/Zelensky at least, but I assume his handlers also are fighting for the optics, to keep funds ect coming.
No Russian offensive as such, just a constant pressure.
Russia has the overwhelming force to do this, the manufacturing, the weapons, the manpower. Elimination of the Ukraine military on the battlefield. Certainly unlike anything post WWII or even any past conflict I have read about.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 1:05 utc | 128

Great to see B’s return announced by such a tour de force. Thank you, but please remember; one hand for the ship and one for yourself.
“Zelimkhan Khangoshvili wasn’t just a Chechen fighter turned dissident; he was an agent of Georgia’s security services and a CIA informant”
Posted by: Menz | Aug 2 2024 21:17 utc | 87
Khangoshvili was ethnically Chechen but born in Georgia and active in the Russo-Georgian war. What I don’t know is whether he was also associated with the Georgian National Legion in Ukraine, which had a nasty reputation for torturing and killing Russian POWs. Now Georgia has issued warrants for them because of alleged involvement in the recent coup attempt. Report from ActiveMeasures here: https://activemeasures.substack.com/p/georgia-averts-coup-by-us-backed

Posted by: TPaine | Aug 3 2024 1:06 utc | 129

I like those imaginative metaphors, especially the cephalopodic one, as they stress the relentless attempt to probe and entangle forces; however, water, I feel, captures the constant searching for weakness, and pressure across the front.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 0:56 utc | 126
I know , I know, I went for tendrils, as in vines, because after growing they strangle… matter of taste I guess.
Seriously apart from that there’s also the issue of tendrils reaching out for objectives , not following what the other side (terrain ) wants, but only adjusting how to slide there.
Anyway, poetry apart , the line is not holding in too many places, very soon they’ll have to retreat to the Dniepre (at least south of Dnipro proper), or risk the mother of all cauldrons …

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 1:15 utc | 130

That is the sort of picture I think Russia is looking at. The proposed mutual security agreements must always be kept in mind. Ukraine is just a small, one small battlefield of the big picture. And then there is the Russia China joint statement of Feb 2022 and that is the total of the big picture.
That is why I think Russia is in no hurry to take ground in Ukraine and certainly no need to as simply taking ground wont bring down Nato and the Empire of Lies. Lavrov’s larger hybrid war.
Once Nato is gone and the empire of lies has collapsed, Ukraine will be low hanging fruit for Russia. But I think it will be a greatly different picture after this last mighty Ukro offensive, if the can find enough live bodies for the offensive that is.
he goon squads collecting ‘volunteers’, trying to conscript the refugees in Europe – pretty much the end game this time I think, as far as Ukraine is concerned.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 1:20 utc | 131

TPaine | Aug 3 2024 1:06 utc | 129
Very strong links between the Chechen headchoppers and the Ukraine Nazis. Ukraine Nazis were in Chechnya in the late 90’s and early 2000’s

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 1:25 utc | 132

You know bro.
There’s a mad, and crazy hypothesis circulating around the weirdest webs positing that The Earth is a planet prison where the worst characters of the galaxy are imprisoned due to be lost cases.
Yes, between the murderers and psychos there are some irredeemables, but they are like the 0.1 percent.
Reading this blog the accountability is very clear. Isn’t it?
And, this is the best…
We got what we deserve… ALL

Posted by: Premind | Aug 3 2024 1:42 utc | 133

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 2 2024 19:27 utc | 57
To add to your excellent post, some conjectures:
IMO the UKrain anti-Russian sentiment has been expanded through digital media, overt and MK Ultra techniques. Limited electricity, limited internet/cell phones, limited brain washing. No electricity…
The most easily influenced and emotionally charged by propaganda have already volunteered. The remainder need moar CNN to plankwalk their way to the trenches(mass graves). The morale and will to fight directly correspond to how much boobtube the citizens and troops are force fed.
The dark quiet of electronic free nights (and days) lead to less jagged thoughts, and perhaps with more evident mortality, the impetus and time for contemplation of our eternal questions. “What am I doing? Where am I going?”
Those sporadic faraway orders barked out (typed) through the comms may seem less urgent.
“What are they saying? What are they doing?”
There seems to be a gathering collapse of the front concurrent with grid blackouts, and no doubt logistic shortages are crucial for UKrain’s defendability. Solar powered electronics only go so far, and the never enough generators don’t run without fuel.
Communication mistakes or outright lapses will multiply,ISR evaporates inversely to confusion and fears of the unknown, diminishing nation wide fighting spirit and each grunt will count the bullets they have left in their mag(s). The nights will get longer, colder and even worse, wet.
Meanwhile I expect no Russ letup on transport, grid, supply attacks. The severe shortages on the frontline will eventually extend to the cities.
If UKrain continues sending troops to the front, I would guess that Russ command is waiting for the number of troops to drop enough west of Dneiper for a river crossing, they have from Zaporhizye to the Black Sea to choose a landing spot(s). If they keep reinforcements in the rear, west of Dneiper, then the front could catastrophically collapse and everything east (bypassing besieged Kharkov, cities) becomes Russian in say two months. But maybe the Grind feels way too good as it is.
Does it not seem evident that the Russians are deliberately not pushing through in any one place? Does anyone doubt they could not repeat Spring 22′? Yeah, I know, “But FPV, mine losses mitigates blah blah.” Reported troop buildups outside Sumy/Kharkov, inside Zaporozhye/Belarus just marching back and forth? “We see you seeing us how about that, going to do anything about it? No? No need to answer, Thanks for letting us know. Yes, the troops in Zap are there to draw you away from attacks on Crimea. It tells us you don’t have enough drones/missiles to simultaneously attack both places like 23′ summer offensive, because we all know you should be doing both. And you should be attacking past the Sumy & Kharkov borders on the order of attacks you did on Belgorod this winter. And you really, really should also be attacking the Donbass rear logistics like you were doing the last two years into this last winter.”
The Russian/Putin non verbal equivalent of “WAASSSUUP Zinky?”
Primary focus of F16s still to be to attack Crimea? Because it is a base to launch air/sea attacks on Odessa (she’s a keeper) and Russ navy is vulnerable, so if the Black fleet is destroyed, the UKUS navy considers it a decades long Pyrrhic maritime win.
At some point, F-16s (nuke uncertainty) become a stopgap to slow Russian columns or drives. Just as Russ would be foolish to ground war occupy the Polish west (another RU Afghanistan), the UKrain/NATO have been foolish not to retreat back to solid bases west of the Dneiper moat two years ago and build up the military over the next ten years. NATO UKrain bases would by then be well established. Donbass defensive line sunk cost fallacy, ego and wholy Greed makes Blinky, Bidy, Georgy stupid what can you say? There would have been less global sympathy/real support for Russ, there are different ways for NATO to spin it to establish even more web ties.
Whatever Russia ends up with (Putin is pragmatic and flexible) Reversing the EMotion towards one of positivity, the Russians can reverse the destructive war process. Help to provide food, water, power up the grid, control the media narrative, build up a sense of purpose (family, country, religion). The narrative could be a variation of the brave UKrain was sold out to western weirdo oligarchs who thrive on economic chaos and Soros type machinated misery.
Still waiting for the Russ asymmetric response (other countries) to US greenlit home turf attack permission. Will they be timing it with Iran/Hezbollah revenge? That would be dramatic.
Everyone needs an October election surprise, just two months away!

Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 3 2024 2:13 utc | 134

Posted by: watcher | Aug 3 2024 0:54 utc | 125
The things you talk about must be understood in the context of the defeat administered to west and the US in particular. How far would the US government, Deep State and the western economy have to collapse before it was too expensive, or they lost the will, to organize a coup in Venezuela? The same applies to Ukraine and any of Russia’s less stable neighbors. Ukraine is the big problem though, because it’s already got a lot of well-organized, well funded, highly motivated Nazis in it. Russia might occupy the country ‘by proxy,’ ie, with a puppet government, but it has to be in a position to run counter-terror ops and control the borders until the west gives up. They didn’t after WWII. It took 70 years for them achieve the conditions they needed for the current war. Unless Russia wants to fight this war again, it needs to thoroughly de-nazify Ukraine, and that means occupying it. Either that, or they have to destroy the Nazi bases in the west. That means the complete destruction of the big bourgeoisie, and for the foreseeable future, that means nuclear war.
Medvedev basically made Poland an offer, but they didn’t take it. It probably isn’t on the table any more, Poland, like Romania, has demonstrated that it is an enemy state. I could see RF gifting some areas to Hungary, if for no other reason that it would add to the infighting in the EU and NATO for some time to come.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 3 2024 2:26 utc | 135

“Think of water,
Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 23:05 utc | 111
This how the initial phase of the SMO was described. The RF flowed around hardpoints, without attacking them very much until they got the Kiev Airport, which they could not flow around and which they failed to take. The current phase of the SMO is not really like that- yes, they are now able to make tactical advances through ‘open spaces’ before attacking the hard points, but they don’t do a lot of ‘flowing between.’ They *get* between, but they have to grind down the hardpoints before they continue to advance.
I think on the tactical level, a good analogy might be crabs. Lots of local pincer movement, lots of sideways walking by the units involved. And there are a lot of crabs on this beach.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 3 2024 2:34 utc | 136

It is unlikely that Poland and other neighboring countries of Ukraine will generously welcome even more refugees from Ukraine.
Posted by b on August 2, 2024 at 14:59 UTC | Permalink
Hessen (Germany) just decided that it will not issue temporary papers to Ukrainian men whose passports have expired.
They say these men should return to Ukraine to get their passports renewed.
They may return after they get their passports renewed – and they served their compulsory military service.
The decision was not made by politcians. Of course not.
They want to be reelected, after all.
Politicians cede such monstrous decisions to the bureaucracy.
In this case to the Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs.
https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=119125
and
https://www.focus.de/panorama/zumutbar-in-die-ukraine-zu-reisen-zumutbar-in-die-ukraine-zu-reisen-hessen-verweigert-ukrainischen-wehrpflichtigen-ersatzpaesse_id_260186358.html
(in German)

Posted by: Martina | Aug 3 2024 3:51 utc | 137

Honzo | Aug 3 2024 2:34 utc | 136
Second day of the first phase, Ukraine opened negotiations with Russia. Three aspects of first phase.
1) Let Ukraine know Russia meant business when it comes to negotiating security. War as and extension of politics, not American shock and awe.
2) Very narrow advances that went directly at US bio weapon sites.
3)very narrow advance that went directly for nuclear sites.
Pro Russian maps in those first days were very deceiving, simply painting Ukraine in large swathes of red. Pro Ukraine maps actually show the narrow lines of advance to these sites. The Russians went hard and fast for as many as possible, only stopping when US artillery traps destroyed the leading columns of each advance. The Americans would have very quickly picked up on what Russia was targeting and laid ambushes for them with zeroed in artillery.
The advance stopped complete by the seventh day with the leading column in that direction 20k or so from the South Ukraine NPP which it had been heading directly for.
The ZNPP. 30 tons of plutonium and 40 tons of enriched Uranium there according to Grossi (IAEA). Ukraine does not make its own fuel so what was it doing there?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 4:29 utc | 138

B’s point seems to be asking “what is this war actually achieving?” The lines are barely moving. The answer is that it is achieving the rapid elimination of Ukrainian people. If you follow the Russian MOD numbers, they barely ever score tanks anymore. Because there aren’t any. Just meat waves of brainwashed Ukrainians.
I’ve come to the conclusion that both sides in this conflict are mutually working towards this goal, the depopulation of Ukraine. Everything makes sense when you view it that way. Both sides (NATO and Russia) want Ukrainian land, not the people.

Posted by: Moonraker | Aug 3 2024 4:31 utc | 139

Moonraker | Aug 3 2024 4:31 utc | 139
Idiot.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 4:33 utc | 140

Martina | Aug 3 2024 3:51 utc | 137
Get rid of the men and keep the women I guess. The males to be killed off on the Ukie frontlines. The females will help even out all the young males from the south Europe took in as refugees some years back. Might help lower the rape stats.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 4:46 utc | 141

… So I think, that the main job after losing the SMO for the Ukraine survivors would be to convince the victors that they deserve the second chance to return to their normal life.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 3 2024 0:19 utc | 123

This movie:
The Red Snowball Tree (1973)
explores redemption, recidivism, and 2nd chances. Worth watching for insight on (Soviet) Russian views on the topic.
For extra credit: compare and contrast with how an American version of this movie would be slanted.

Posted by: retroflecks | Aug 3 2024 5:16 utc | 142

This movie … explores redemption, recidivism, and 2nd chances

The special meaning of this movie is that it starts when the convict is finishing his sentence. First comes punishment and after it is over, let’s talk about redemption.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 3 2024 5:59 utc | 143

Most of those who ask for faster advances seem to think in terms of NATO or WW2 advances.
A small, highly concentrated force punches through a breach and rolls up an entire sector of the front.
Even in WW2 these advances only happened in lightly fortified areas.
Capable tanks (not glorified caterpillars) were new and near impossible to counter.
Logistics had changed to fully motorized units with fuel tankers – for 10% of the army. This gave massive advantage to spearheads and disadvantaged defenders/reserves.
Russian logistics is more rail based than truck based, this moves more material but slower. This added to less force concentration, less air power, drones, more hierarchies leads to a very systematic ‘first don’t lose” dogma.
Apart from FABs and Lancets there are no real game changers. Long range missiles are strategic but only pinpoint compared to WW2 bomber waves. Military production is a fraction of total war levels, this is not a fight for existence yet.
This leads to a wide defense and attrition on UKR side. The moment a weakness occurs, that front has to fall back. Weakening occurs at all spots at the same time. Fallback is possible as long as there are houses, trenches, dugouts – until force concentration or uncovered movement becomes possible again.
Currently drones will cover any retreat, they can be launched in seconds from unprepared positions. Tank movements are suppressed by artillery and antitank drones like Lancet and western equivalents.
What can restore supremacy? Interceptor drones, EW packs, anti-drone guns, anti-radiation or anti-acoustic drones. My bet would be on AI driven interceptor swarms as those would scale well, favors the West though.
What can Russia do?
Probably cluster bomb every retreat with FABs systematically, saves the time of bombing all the new positions to hell. They could definitely cut all connections on Western borders, power, rail, ports. Bomb all the bridges.
I think this turns to a Clausewitzian struggle of the wills. For Russia this is existential, for the West just imperialism, nothing to go and die for. The pocketbook approach has failed but we aren’t in consequence territory either. That would start happening once Slovakia and Hungary, maybe also Turkey and Romania fall back to the East – which they are bound to, long term as a return to the cultural mean.
Putin for now would accept the Oblast borders, not sure these would really be defensible though. Especially a land bridge to Odessa will be critical as unpalatable as that will be to the West.

Posted by: SOS | Aug 3 2024 6:50 utc | 144

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Summary for the Morning of 3 August 2024; 07:04 (GMT+3)📍
🎯During the night, the RFAF carried out group strikes by attack drones against the foe’s rear facilities in #Kiev, #Vinnitsa, #Odessa, #Kharkov, #Sumy, #Dnepropetrovsk, #Zhitomir and #Poltava regions. The foe has been claiming for several days that the RFAF, in addition to the Geraniums, is using more budget Gerbera UAVs, which allows ours to increase the pace of air strikes.
💥The foe organised a large scale attack (55 UAVs) on the Rostov region. 🎬👇The strikes also came to the Orlov, Kursk (at least 6 UAVs) and Belgorod regions. The foe’s targets were military airfields and oil depots, UAVs hit residential buildings, without casualties, the governors reported.
🔹In #Kharkov region, fights continue in #Volchansk. Our assault groups advance in the multi-storey buildings area and clear the houses from AFU remnants. 2 foe attacks were repelled in the town’s east. At night the foe tried to reinforce across the destroyed bridge. Detected by recon, destroyed by artillery and FPV UAV strikes. In the #Staritsa area, due to losses, the AFU reduced the attacks. From the field, troops report that the foe has strengthened the air defence by Patriot transfer and tries to down our aircraft. Once again, an US interceptor missile was downed over #Belgorod region.
🔹In #Seversk sector, ours entered the edge of #Pereyezdnoye (north of #Razdolovka), gaining a foothold on the first street.
🔹In the #Toretsk area, foe resources report a difficult situation for the AFU. However, the foe holds an organised defence and tries to counterattack to stabilise the front.
🔹West of #Avdeyevka, the RFAF keep the offensive pace on a wide front, reporting the entry of our forces in #Sergeyevka and #Zhelannoye. RFAF units advance northeast of the latter and in #Ivanovka.
🔹On the #Ugledar – #Konstantinovka motorway, the RFAF 👉 placed a flag in the back of a vehicles. There had been fights for months to access this motorway.
🔹On the #Zaporozhye front, at #Rabotino ours took the next 2 foe strongholds. At night, the foe works actively with attack UAVs in the frontline areas, also “Baba-Yaga” mines the approaches front positions, thus trying to disrupt our logistics.
🔹In #Kherson direction, without significant changes. A 68-year-old woman was wounded in the residential sector in Cossack Camps and a 75-year-old man was wounded in Pravye Sagi. In #Tavriysk, the foe tried to destroy the transformer substation by shelling, without damage.
💥In #Belgorod region, 2 civilians were wounded in Shebekinsky district yesterday morning by AFU fire. The shelling of peaceful objects does not stop. For the 2nd day in a row, the AFU attacked with HIMARS. Over the day, North Group air defences repelled 4 missile attacks.
💥In #Kursk region, border districts came under foe attacks. Ours target foe’s firing positions in the #Sumy region,19 tactical UAVs were downed and suppressed.
💥In the #DPR, 1 civilian was killed and 9 wounded. In #Donetsk, 6 people were wounded in a UAV attack near the Abakumov Mine Market: women born in 1965, 1961 and 1949, men born in 1992, 1986 and 1960. In #Gorlovka, a bread delivery vehicle was hit by an AFU UAV, injuring a driver born in 1987. In #Volnovakha, a man born in 1948 was killed and a woman born in 1955 was injured by foe shelling with missile artillery. In the Panteleymonovka of the Yasinovatsky urban district, a man born in 1972 was injured by the foe using barrel artillery.

https://t.me/sitreports/32220

Posted by: Down South | Aug 3 2024 7:22 utc | 145

🇺🇦🔥🇷🇺 Where/how/when❓will the Ukrainian Armed Forces advance (if any).
Once again we hear questions regarding the new counter-offensive of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Let’s formulate the parameters of such a counter-offensive, which Ze can now afford:
🔹 the goal should be simple, understandable, not ephemeral. It’s difficult with morality in the Armed Forces of Ukraine – the fighters are not eager to attack for the sake of one media effect, as in Krynki;
🔹 when? Hurry up! Before the elections in the United States, it is necessary to ensure victory. It is suitable both for getting help (they showed that we can) and for “negotiating from a position of strength”;
🔹 the offensive should be very rapid. There is no time for a long operation;
🔹the operation should not involve attracting a large number of manpower. She’s gone. Even less motivated. Reconnaissance, drones, satellites – the concentration of forces of the Russian Armed Forces will be immediately revealed;
🔹 media effect – where would we be without it! Capturing a village/city will not bring it. In the Pokrovsky direction we lose the village in two days – no one cares. Something iconic needs to be captured/returned❗️;
🔹 ideally, as a result, Ukraine should not receive a piece of scorched earth like Rabotino, but something iconic.
Have you already guessed? There is no other such facility except the Zaporozhye NPP☝️

https://t.me/ZeRada1/20818

🔥☢️🔥 Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant.
Subscribers ask to analyze the option of attacking towards the nuclear power plant.
1) The goal – the largest nuclear power plant in Europe is clearly more understandable and significant than Volchansk and a couple of villages in the Belgorod region.
2) The operation is more realistic than the northern direction, because it is necessary to isolate a smaller section of the front, and you can also try to implement it with a smaller number of troops, which is critically important in conditions of depressed morale of most parts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
3) The location is good. Energodar is geographically a protrusion of the front line, so work by aviation, etc. It’s easier along it than along Volchansk.
4) The depth of the operation – everything is bad here. The Ukrainian Armed Forces need to travel 65 km to cut off Energodar, which is unrealistic under current conditions. Simply because the Russian Armed Forces will concentrate aviation on the direction within a maximum of 24 hours and flood the breakthrough with fire from the air.
5) Geography allows the Ukrainian Armed Forces to launch attacks with Western weapons on all tactical aviation airfields covering the direction. This slightly neutralizes the previous point.
Now, what we have at the moment:
✅ Significant air defense forces are concentrated in the south, including Patriot installations, which may indicate preparations for an operation.
✅ Shelling of Energodar and adjacent territories by the Ukrainian Armed Forces has increased.
✅ Unverified data has appeared in Russia so far. telegram segment about the concentration of the Ukrainian Armed Forces group in this direction.
And yet, despite the first deliveries of F-16s and the fact that the operation is more profitable and realistic than Volchanskaya, we objectively do not see the Ukrainian Armed Forces having the ability to carry out such a deep and complex undertaking.

https://t.me/ZeRada1/20821

Posted by: Down South | Aug 3 2024 7:25 utc | 146

Posted by: Milites | Aug 2 2024 23:05 utc | 111

Think of water, […] but, instead of water surging, these streams are streams of metal and flesh, constantly on the move.

Excellent analogy. So by having a dynamic map of obstructions, their strengths and weakneasses, the volume of the metal and flesh stream, and the inclination of terrain (equivalent to morale?), it would be possible to solve for various unknowns with a model developed by military mathematicians.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 3 2024 7:41 utc | 147

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 3 2024 2:34 utc | 136
As I said, advancing or sliding. Don’t get too fixated on tactical battles, operationally it’s still occurring, with fronts activated in a sequential way, and within those fronts axes activated in a similar fashion. If you look at recent breakthroughs they resemble how water reacts to micro-depressions, obstacles and differing gradients as it makes its way moves across a surface.
Don’t also forget, the initial stages had far more pressure and momentum, being a coup-de-main and concentrated in certain areas. Once the front stabilised, that pressure had to be shared across a 1000km front and therefore correspondingly impetus was dissipated. When pressure is applied, thanks to force build ups the pattern is repeated, albeit on a smaller scale.
The trouble with analogous analysis is that whilst it captures the essence of the situation it cannot be used in specific situations. Realising that fact is essential in avoiding overloading an analogy with more and more reactive detail, so as to protect the users’s ego, thereby rendering it useless. My original point was that a lot of the ‘drama’ injected into the YT analysts reports are simply observing the SOP of how the Russians fight. It’s similar to the comment I made about drone footage of tanks being hit generating hyperbolic comments, forgetting that’s what tanks were designed to do, absorb damage, not dodge it.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 7:58 utc | 148

Re: Posted by: watcher | Aug 3 2024 0:54 utc | 125

To do this I absolutely agree that they must get NATO and other aggressors out of the Black Sea. This after all is what WWI was all about for Russia, only it was the restricted NATO (Germany, Austria, Hungary and Turkey) it was bothered by. So yes Odessa must be taken or potentially becomes an international neutral city state with no weapons. Pretty much the same about Nikolayev, but it is further inland so perhaps too close to Russia to be allowed independence. They will have to get Kherson back as part of a settlement. Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhia is probably a sufficient buffer for Moscow, provided Kharkov and Sumy are neutral but I suppose that Kharkov is almost an essential retake by Russia for security.

You are living in absolute fantasy land if you think The West will just hand Russia control of Kherson as part of some settlement! – or that The West will just agree to give up Odessa and Nikolaev to become “neutral” or “independent” cities!!
That is simply NEVER going to happen?!?
Why would they?!?
If Russia wants to neutralize these cities then Russia will have to put in the hard work and take these cities on the battlefield.
No of or buts about it.
Likewise for the Black Sea – if Russia wants to kick NATO out of the Black Sea they must offer Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey reasons to do so – and to leave NATO.
For Romania this could include land transfers (Chernivitsi?) from Ukraine, and for Bulgaria and Turkey (& Romania also) this could involve trade incentives and deals with BRICS.
Absolute fantasy land to expect or hope The West will give Ukrainian land to Russia at all without Russia winning that land on the battlefield.

Posted by: Julian | Aug 3 2024 8:08 utc | 149

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 1:15 utc | 130
Absolutely, see my recent comment on over-loading metaphors to protect the creators ego. Soon the battlefield-field is being described in terms of various states of liquid, and before you know it your analysis has dissolved (pun-intended) into a confusing, quasi-geographical, work featuring ox-bow lakes, and fluvio-glacial depositions!
I did like your octopus though, because it also highlighted the Russian emphasis on operational camouflage and ability to effect rapid withdrawals, when required.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 8:09 utc | 150

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 3 2024 7:41 utc | 147
I highlighted in the summer of ‘22 that the Russians, stretched as they were, always seemed to have just the right amount of troops to achieve their operational aims, because they followed a Correlation of Forces and Means model (CoFM).
CoFM is a fascinating topic so I’ve included a link.
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR4200/RR4235/RAND_RR4235.pdf
Ignore the organisation, their historical summary and conclusions, shorn of assumptions, gives a very accurate picture why the SMO turned out the way it did.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 8:23 utc | 151

one wonders if the Ukr defaulting bonds could affect this
“WHERE WILL THE $50 BILLION COME FROM?
It will come from loans provided by the G7 members – the United States, Britain, Germany, France, Italy, Canada and Japan – and by the European Union. The loans are backed by future interest from frozen Russian assets.”

Posted by: Jo | Aug 3 2024 8:23 utc | 152

A much, much, much bigger problem for Russia are the Baltics, Finland, Poland, Germany, Sweden and Norway which threaten St Petersburg. This is where the real danger lies.
Posted by: watcher | Aug 3 2024 0:54 utc | 125
Agree with that pov. Add in Denmark and Netherlands and it’s easy to understand
the choices of NATO Sec. Gen. Rasmussen, Stoltenberg and now Rutte. The build up
here in the north is obscene. I live in paradise except for that crowd. F-ers!

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 3 2024 8:25 utc | 153

I do wish people would stop using the American vernacular use of “city” for every place of human habitation in Banderastan. Using the word “city” in this way is the result of using a machine translator, which by default uses American English. But saying “city” when referring to these places is highly misleading, especially for dimwit trolls.
New York in the Ukraine, is a “rural settlement” — directly translated from both Yukietardish and Russian.
They’re rural crossroads, “one-horse towns”!
The Ukraine, is a huge country dotted with such “settlements”, as is Russia.
The present terminology “settlement” as long used in Banderastan and Russia, replaced in many cases село [selo].
A “selo” is a village with a church and parish priest.
The Bolsheviks destroyed many village churches. You can see their ruins everywhere out in the sticks.
The nearest “village” to my dacha has no church: that’s why it’s a rural settlement and most certainly not a “city”, which is город [gorod] in Russian and місто [misto] in Yukietardish.
“Misto” is cognate with the Russian место [mesto], which simply means “place”.

Posted by: Moscow Exile | Aug 3 2024 8:28 utc | 154

Re: Posted by: watcher | Aug 3 2024 1:02 utc | 127

I think the really big test for Russia this year is Zaporizhia city. It is in a very strategically important location.

More dreamland speculation.
We are in August. The year ends in 5 months.
Look at the Russian advances since March.
There is absolutely no prospect there will be any fighting over Zaporizhzhia City this year!
It is simply not going to happen – and nothing suggests it! Nothing at all!!

Posted by: Julian | Aug 3 2024 8:34 utc | 155

Somebody once said that Russia is the most “history aware” society in the world. No it only do they remember the atrocities and mind boggling losses during WWII. But they haven’t forgotten OPERATION SUNRISE as well. Sunrise was the plan concocted by the OSS station chief Allan Dulles to make a separate peace with the real Nazis, in order to pass the US forces stuck in Italy into Germany and stop the Soviets together with the Germans from reaching Berlin. A spy (probably an Italian) in the secret negotiations in Ascona Switzerland tipped Stalin off who fired off an angry telegram to Roosevelt (who died a few days later). Then comes PAPERCLIP and the Gehlen affair.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Aug 3 2024 8:45 utc | 156

You are living in absolute fantasy land
That is simply NEVER going to happen?!?
Absolute fantasy land
Posted by: Julian | Aug 3 2024 8:08 utc | 149

More dreamland speculation
There is absolutely no prospect
nothing suggests it! Nothing at all!!
Posted by: Julian | Aug 3 2024 8:34 utc | 155

adolf also thought that they will get all the lands from russia and that there would be no prospect at all that the “untermenschen” would come back in force and wreck his little delusion.
as did napoleon. same thoughts, same kind of people, same outcome.
you would get more “respect” if you would simply stop using such hyperbole words, but then again, you act exactly like the two mentioned individuals.
delusion of grandeur. and once reality hits, you will simply vanish from this board. like all the little men before once their absolute words have proven completely and utterly wrong.
“Nothing at all!!”
“In tatters i say, tatters!!”

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 3 2024 8:51 utc | 157

Why is Ukraine defaulting right now when IMF pledged support about a month ago.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 3 2024 9:04 utc | 158

Posted by: Julian | Aug 3 2024 8:34 utc | 155
You keep shitting in your mouth, tard. Same drivel every time. Go suck on your dick as well and calm down.

Posted by: Boo | Aug 3 2024 9:12 utc | 159

Get rid of the men and keep the women I guess. The males to be killed off on the Ukie frontlines. The females will help even out all the young males from the south Europe took in as refugees some years back. Might help lower the rape stats.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 4:46 utc | 141
Men without papers will either be victimized by criminals, or turn criminal. I don’t see how that benefits any crime statistics.
Including the rape statistics.
I would hope that the men and their wives / mothers / daughters move to Russia.
And develop a sound hatred of everything German.
More likely is that the number of asylum seekers will grow when Ukrainian refugees start applying for asylum in order to avoid being deported to the Ostfront.

Posted by: Martina | Aug 3 2024 9:15 utc | 160

Indeed. And before even going into the aspects of de-nazification and what the term actually means on the ground, it isn’t clear how Russia could impose any sort of political change in Ukraine. In my opinion, the West would be in a very comfortable position to undermine any development it doesn’t like.
Posted by: robin | Aug 2 2024 18:35 utc | 43
The West can try. It will be tough for them, though:
1. Except for the Azow pussies that seem to see their role in shooting their comrades in the back behind the lines, most of the violent Nazis seem to have died at the front long ago. The Azow scum will be dealt with by their countryman ag the first opportunity.
2. The current junta isn’t making a lot of friends. If this report on what is happening in Ukraine right now is true, chances are Selensky and his ilk will be nailed to nearest fencepost as soon as the pressure is off: https://youtu.be/vo7OyrXLms4?si=HXMXQdSCbDF8iL96
3. Putin has a huge bargaining chip: if there was a way to guarantee that future Ukraine governments are neutral and capable of building an Eastern Switzerland, Russia could open the door a little to a united Ukraine, with the Eastern republics and possibly even Crimea in a decade or two. Allegedly, that was part of the agreement Russia and Ukraine reached two months into the war, before Boris NATO Johnson killed the plan. With NATO out of ammo and ideas, and more and more it’s supporters being booted out of governments by the voters, chances are the NATO goons will have to stay on the sidelines next time around.

Posted by: Marvin | Aug 3 2024 9:22 utc | 161

Perhaps the USA is overextended on the friendship front. Anglo-Saxon Americans are happiest with other Anglo-saxons, and even then.
Right now, the USA is struggling against Russia. China, Iran and others. If strategy requires it, friendship with non-Anglo-saxons is claimed, true. But it seems this friendship stretches Americans beyond what they feel comfortable with.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 3 2024 9:28 utc | 162

4) The depth of the operation – everything is bad here. The Ukrainian Armed Forces need to travel 65 km to cut off Energodar, which is unrealistic under current conditions. Simply because the Russian Armed Forces will concentrate aviation on the direction within a maximum of 24 hours and flood the breakthrough with fire from the air.
5) Geography allows the Ukrainian Armed Forces to launch attacks with Western weapons on all tactical aviation airfields covering the direction. This slightly neutralizes the previous point.
Now, what we have at the moment:
✅ Significant air defense forces are concentrated in the south, including Patriot installations, which may indicate preparations for an operation.
✅ Shelling of Energodar and adjacent territories by the Ukrainian Armed Forces has increased.
✅ Unverified data has appeared in Russia so far. telegram segment about the concentration of the Ukrainian Armed Forces group in this direction.
And yet, despite the first deliveries of F-16s and the fact that the operation is more profitable and realistic than Volchanskaya, we objectively do not see the Ukrainian Armed Forces having the ability to carry out such a deep and complex undertaking.
https://t.me/ZeRada1/20821
Posted by: Down South | Aug 3 2024 7:25 utc | 146
Even half of 65kms is not doable for the AFU against RF lines
And by water? Madness
I’ll go for psyop
RF is pretending it doesn’t move in that direction and AFU pretends it wants to try again

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 10:03 utc | 163

I did like your octopus though, because it also highlighted the Russian emphasis on operational camouflage and ability to effect rapid withdrawals, when required.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 8:09 utc | 150
That leads to another interesting point. Some months ago RF experimented on “inking” (smoke to cover advances) and they have some nice equipment for that, any news on that?

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 10:13 utc | 164

Dima:
-RUAF small groups already crossed Konstaninyivka-Ugledar road to the west
-RU drone control extends far west of the road
-Konstaninyivka put in half cauldron, and the village west of it
-Zhelanne has been breached from the north, and the village NW of it
-RU expand their zone of control SW of Pivnichne, further strangling the AFU pocket SE of New York (the gap is supposedly 3km), AFU can’t get out of it without large losses or on the other hand, surrendering
-TOS strike east of Vovchansk
-RU stopped attacking in Kharkov area, according to statement they are defending against a much larger army
-Speculation, but this could mean the latest AFU offensive which was long planned by Nato and even specifically why F-16 are in Ukraine. So maybe this is the latest roll of the dice..?
-AFU (NATO) hit an oil depot and air base east of Rostov, at least fuel tanks seem to be hit

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2024 10:34 utc | 165

BBC just admitted F-16 are based out of Nato bases (probably Poland and Romania) ‘to protect them from strikes’. So this probably means they are armed and sortied out of those bases.
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1819683704806994338

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2024 10:48 utc | 166

“5 brigades are trying to escape from Ukraine every day” –Arestovich
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/105077

Posted by: Apollyon | Aug 3 2024 10:56 utc | 167

F-16s in ukraine ???
how many months ago started this STORY ?
is the end near ?
search on 01.08.24 for “F-16” with starting point 25.07.24
– 30.07.24 — avia-pro — First F-16 fighter over Ukraine ( with video ) –> a number of sources
– 31.07.24 — NT-V — Erste F-16-Kampfjets wohl in der Ukraine eingetroffen –> Bloomberg –> sources
– 31.07.24 — the times — six jets had been supplied to Ukraine from the Netherlands –> a source familiar with the matter
– 31.07.24 — Bloomberg — Ukraine Receives First F-16 Fighter Jets After Long Wait –> Bloomberg —> people familiar with the matter
– 31.07.24 — bulgarianmilitary — After the missile delivery report, the first F-16s landed in Ukraine –> Bloomberg –> citing Focus News –> Bloomberg ??
– 31.07.24 — theaviationist — Breaking: Ukraine Receives First Batch Of F-16 Fighter Jets –> AP obtain confirmation by an unnamed U.S. official
– 31.07.24 — kyivindependent — BREAKING: First F-16 fighter jets arrive in Ukraine, Bloomberg reports –> Bloomberg –> citing unnamed people familiar with the matter
– 01.08.24 — aerobuzz — Die ersten F-16 wurden an die Ukraine übergeben —> Bloomberg
– 01.08.24 — Anadolu Ajansı — F-16 fighter jets land in Ukraine to bolster defense against Russia –> Lithuania’s foreign minister
– 01.08.24 — Deutsche Welle — First F-16 fighter jets arrive in Ukraine –>according to US and Lithuanian officials
they’re all talking about Slovakian F-16s
and if it’s not true, then it’s a very nice invention 🙂
– 22.07.24 — lockheedmartin — Lockheed Martin and Slovakia Usher in New Era of European Air Defense with Arrival of First F-16 Block 70 Jets
– 23.07.24 — dailytelegraph — First of new F-16s arrive in Slovakia in air defense boost
– 23.07.24 — Euronews — First F-16 fighter jets arrive in Slovakia from the US
– 24.07.24 — bmpd.livejournal — The first F-16 fighter jets were introduced to the Slovak Air Force
“>https://tass.com/politics/1823995


Kremlin saw no official statements on F-16 jets deliveries to Ukraine — spokesman
MOSCOW, August 1. /TASS/. Russia has not yet seen any official statements confirming the delivery of F-16 fighter jets to Ukraine, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

“It is unlikely that this has become known, so far only sources [talked about it]. There have been no statements to this effect,” he said, commenting on the possible transfer of fighter jets to Kiev.
On Wednesday, the Times newspaper reported, citing an unnamed source, that Ukraine had received six F-16 fighter jets from the Netherlands. According to the newspaper, Kiev will soon receive a new batch of fighter jets, this time from Denmark.
Earlier, the Bloomberg news agency reported, citing sources, that the first batch of F-16 jets from NATO allies had already been delivered to Ukraine. According to it, the number of fighter jets is “small.” Bloomberg’s sources also said that it was not yet clear whether Ukrainian pilots, who have been training in the West over the past months, would be able to immediately start using the aircraft or whether this process would take more time.

Posted by: ghiwen | Aug 3 2024 10:57 utc | 168

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 3 2024 10:13 utc | 164
Artillery smoke, unless ejected smoke candles, tends to mature quickly, but lasts a short time due to the obscurant rising rapidly after detonation. This phenomenon, whilst problematic for screening ground assaults, is useful for rapidly creating an aerial barrier, but is less effective against TI. I guess it helped initially, but its efficacy was degraded by the inevitable counter-measures. I wonder if they might have also used drones as smoke generators, the same way they were used in WW2, when screening DZ’s (Drop Zones).
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2024 10:34 utc | 165
Just reading about the Amin Box and Imphal assault. Doubt the Ukrainians have enough combat power to make anything more than limited progress, and wonder if the Russians are waiting to launch a divisional op on the flank of any planned ‘offensive’.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2024 10:48 utc | 166
If they are used to attack Russia they become fair game, irrespective of the country they are deployed in, though the method will be deniable sabotage (remote FODing, collision by frangible cased drone, assassination/ incapacitation of pilots/crew, contamination of fuel etc). There are lots of ways of indirectly stopping planes from flying, beyond going boom! Similar to the way a CV can be ‘removed’ by KO’ing its tugs, sabotaging its fire suppression system, or a submarine by replacing one of its centrifuge blades with faulty copy.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 11:19 utc | 169

Big hit recently on Russian airbase in Rostov (Morozovsk).
https://youtu.be/HVEr9ZtfxIo
https://youtu.be/i1TwZjdM6Qs
Russian air defenses, where are you?

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Aug 3 2024 11:27 utc | 170

Posted by: Julian | Aug 3 2024 8:34 utc | 155
“You keep shitting in your mouth, tard. Same drivel every time. Go suck on your dick as well and calm down.”
Posted by: Boo | Aug 3 2024 9:12 utc | 159
You are an ignorant, fucking pig; you don’t lie Julian’s ideas than calmly present your own counter arguments, don’t act like a Neo Nazi on meth.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 3 2024 11:34 utc | 171

Russian air defenses shot down over 70 Ukrainian suicide drones over the night of August 2 and 3, according to the Ministry of Defense.
In a statement, the ministry said that 36 drones were intercepted over the Rostov region, eight over the Kursk region, nine over the Belgorod region, 17 over the Oryol region, two over the Ryazan region in addition to one drone over each of the Voronezh region, the Sea of ​​Azov and the region of Krasnodar Krai.
Rostov Governor Vasily Golubev said that 55 “Ukrainian drones” had attacked his region overnight, damaging “storage facilities in the Kamensky and Morozovsky districts.” He noted that no casualties had been reported.
There is a large military airfield in the region’s Morozovsky district which was reportedly the main target of the drone attack.
Meanwhile, Vyacheslav Gladkov, Governor of Belgorod, reported that an oil reservoir there had been destroyed by a drone strike, but no casualties were reported. He said the fire had been extinguished.
In the Oryol region, Governor Andrei Klychkov wrote on Telegram that three drones had been destroyed while “two drones fell on a residential building.” He said no casualties were reported.
Also overnight, a drone attack attributed to Russia damaged critical infrastructure in Vinnytsia and other Ukrainian regions.
The Ukrainian Air Force said that it shot down 24 out of 29 Geran-type suicide drones over nine regions. Russian forces also launched two S-300 anti-aircraft guided missiles and two Kh-31 anti-radar missiles, the air force said.
Kherson regional governor Oleksander Prokudin alleged that air defense shot down five drones over his region. Nevertheless, he admitted that Russian attacks on the region in the past day struck critical infrastructure and an administrative building.
The Kiev regime intensified drone attacks on Russia in recent months, damaging infrastructure and killing or wounding dozens of civilians. These attacks appear to be a desperate attempt by the regime to make up for the recent defeats of its forces.
In response, the Russian military resumed group strikes on military infrastructure and related energy facilities in Ukraine. It also stepped up offensive operations, capturing even more territory from Kiev forces in Donetsk and several other directions.

https://southfront.press/russian-air-defenses-shot-down-over-70-ukrainian-drones-overnight/

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2024 11:36 utc | 172

Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Aug 3 2024 11:27 utc | 170
The second video shows two or three fuel containers burning in the depot.
The first video is unclear, albeit it also seems like burning fuel. The first video could be from the base, second is the depot elsewhere.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2024 11:40 utc | 173

In the Vinnytsia region, as a result of the Geran raid, an infrastructure facility was seriously damaged. There were 2 or 3 arrivals. – ISZ reports

https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1819697097639117284

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2024 11:45 utc | 174

Nice to have you back, b. Right on time. Tnx for your effort. Hopefully, Saker is going to come back online someday soon. Greetings to him too.
And, barflies, please remember to light a candle for Gozalo Lira (mention him in your prayers, no offense: just the way we say it over here)

Posted by: syd.bgd | Aug 3 2024 11:47 utc | 175

Since the diversion to Kharkiv, the ukrainian dead & wounded – according to the Russian military – are up 3X, to nearly 2000 per day. And that does not include those killed by the FABs. More women are being drawn in, was at least 45 000 a few months ago, how many dead now?

Posted by: Ralph | Aug 3 2024 12:07 utc | 176

syd.bgd, what makes you say that Saker will be back? His site isn’t working, & his one before that is active but frozen.

Posted by: Ralph | Aug 3 2024 12:10 utc | 177

The utterly foolish and ghoulish refusal of the US to admit to defeat in Ukraine boggles the mind. Ukraine is not an independent country, it is an extension of the US Department of State. The Ukrainians will not come to the table to negotiate with Russia unless they are given permission to do so by the Americans. That will not happen under the current Sullivan-Blinken-Austin administration. It will not happen under a hypothetical Harris administration, and it may not happen under a hypothetical second Trump administration. This thing in Ukraine will not end until the Ukrainian army collapses completely and refuses to carry-out any new orders from Kiev.

Posted by: Monos | Aug 3 2024 12:25 utc | 178

@ Anonymous 15 and 29
This “Anonymous” poster is a troll, maybe just a bot. You can see it’s a troll because it completely does not response to comments calling out the troll’s lack of analysis, and also the troll’s complete lack of response to all the discussions for more than a year, that the Russian goals and methods have nothing to to with territory, and that land is a bad metric for understanding this conflict.
There is no point to feeding trolls. Save your time for better things.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Aug 3 2024 12:51 utc | 179

Patroklos @93: “We’ve already seen this in Mariupol. Investment, rebuilding, jobs in heavy industry, real governance in the interests of human flourishing, all quietly being done without fanfare or any other opportunistic posturing.”
Exactly, and despite the cost, Russia comes out ahead both socially and economically.
Nation building worked like that for America in some cases immediately after WWII, but then again, who did America end up fighting in WWII? That’s right: Nazis. The business and political elites resisted it, but the American working class of the time (a very different thing from the fake “left” of today) demanded that if they were going to war, it would have to be against the Nazis, not for the Nazis like today’s “left” prefers.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 3 2024 13:02 utc | 180

Patroklos @93: “We’ve already seen this in Mariupol. Investment, rebuilding, jobs in heavy industry, real governance in the interests of human flourishing, all quietly being done without fanfare or any other opportunistic posturing.”
“Exactly, and despite the cost, Russia comes out ahead both socially and economically.
Nation building worked like that for America in some cases immediately after WWII, but then again, who did America end up fighting in WWII? That’s right: Nazis. The business and political elites resisted it, but the American working class of the time (a very different thing from the fake “left” of today) demanded that if they were going to war, it would have to be against the Nazis, not for the Nazis like today’s “left” prefers.”
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 3 2024 13:02 utc | 180
Sorry, you are way off base-the American ‘working class’ did not ‘demand’ war against the Nazis in WW2.
America didn’t want to go to war in 1939-41 -they went to war against Japan (1)after the Dec. 7, 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor.
Germany then , immediately, and in my opinion, stupidly, declared war on the US and in retaliation the US declared war on Germany.
That’s what happened.
1. Which was provoked by Roosevelt cutting of oil supplies to Japan.: “The warning shots of this economic warfare were first fired in January 1940, when the United States ended its 1911 commercial treaty with Japan. Seven months later, in July, Congress passed the National Defense Act, authorizing Roosevelt to ban or restrict the export of resources necessary for national defense. Roosevelt promptly banned shipments to Japan of high-octane aviation gas, certain categories of steel and scrap iron, and other items. By July 1, 1941, the list of proscribed items had grown so much that the economic war was in full swing. (2)
2. https://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/the-%E2%80%9Cnoose-around-japans-neck%E2%80%9D/

Posted by: canuck | Aug 3 2024 13:23 utc | 181

canuck | Aug 3 2024 13:23 utc | 181
The war in the Pacific is something I leave fairly open. At some point, I read that the oil sanctions on Japan had something to do with Japan in China.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 13:37 utc | 182

But how will the Russians ensure that that neutralized buffer zone remains a buffer zone if they don’t actually control the territory? A “client” head of state? That is not a very good look . . .
Posted by: Jane | Aug 2 2024 17:25 utc | 30
The Russians are not fighting *for the sake of* taking territory.
That doesn’t mean they won’t ultimately take the territory. It means they won’t take it until the time is ripe. And the time will be ripe when the Ukr surrenders or is in full on collapse. Its economy, its military & its government.

Posted by: Mary | Aug 3 2024 13:45 utc | 183

You are an ignorant, fucking pig; you don’t lie Julian’s ideas than calmly present your own counter arguments, don’t act like a Neo Nazi on meth.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 3 2024 11:34 utc | 171
Pot calling kettle black. How erudite. More trudosian SOP. Grats.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 3 2024 14:02 utc | 184

You are an ignorant, fucking pig; you don’t lie Julian’s ideas than calmly present your own counter arguments, don’t act like a Neo Nazi on meth.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 3 2024 11:34 utc | 171
Pot calling kettle black. How erudite. More trudosian SOP. Grats.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 3 2024 14:03 utc | 185

More RF MOD purges, looks like the RF are performing internal attrition maneuvers. Maybe get the grifters out of the way and the SloMo might find a second gear.
Cool pics over at Simplicious of top brass all preening for the pics. Motley crew to have running your war room….but hey, the Russians have it all under control.
Cheers M
…..graft and spies runs both ways, Russia might collapse long before 404, that is Whitehall’s master plan. Pesky Brits running terror drones into Russia then Russia killed a Brit Merc, guess that makes it even…….cue, Gonzalo Kira’s laugh.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 14:07 utc | 186

Trust auto correct to fuck up “Lira’s laugh,” loved the way he would end a broadcast with it sometimes. Even the Russians have System Pigs…..be nice to get his take on the MOD corruption……no one here wants to touch it…not even b.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 14:12 utc | 187

https://t.me/Lunay14/19013

Forwarded from ALIVE Z
Logistics and supply in conditions of logistics control by small air means
The last months are characterized by further changes in the LBS. The enemy is saturated with surveillance and fire control means. To get to the LBS now requires highly mobile vehicles : motorcycles, scooters, buggies, ATVs.
SUVs and trucks have already been forgotten. It is almost impossible for them to get to the first line safely.
And then a new problem arises: supplying the LBS . You can drop in, but how to ensure supply of the first line in conditions when the enemy holds 8 km behind you under fire control?
Drones have been actively used for these purposes. First of all, large heavy drones are needed for supply, capable of carrying tens of kilograms. They can bring water, food, ammunition.
The enemy has few people at the LBS itself. Strongholds and key defense nodes are held by 3-8 people, no more. The entire defense is based on small air reconnaissance means and three defense contours: FPV, mortars, artillery.
The air is the enemy’s main advantage, the backbone of his defense. By cutting down the key nodes of “small air” we make the enemy literally helpless.
Well, and the last thing on this topic. The initiative of the war is with the enemy. We do not work on solutions that can fundamentally change the map of the battlefield, we do not look for such solutions. We simply try to catch up with the solutions that the enemy imposes on us.
ЖИВОВЗ

https://t.me/romanov_92/44931

Deliveries of FPV ” Sudoplatov – Doomsday” (VT-40) to the troops continue. Let me remind you that they were churning out drones on the same frequency, the enemy had long ago installed this frequency and saturated the front with the corresponding electronic warfare.
Currently, the order for quantity (not quality) of applications has been sent down from above – as a result, most drones just fly into the ground. But beautiful statistics in numbers come to the top.
Moreover, the businessmen from “Sudoplatov – Doomsday” have come up with a new scheme – a monopolization is being prepared and pushed through the Ministry of Defense for the already shitting itself everywhere “Doomsday” – the introduction of a single standard for FPV and the introduction of a “ground control station – “GCS 2.0″. According to their idea, all other manufacturers and suppliers (including volunteer drones) will be required to work only through it…
It has no fewer flaws than the FPV VT-40, which is analyzed in the video.
Now, with all this music, preparations are underway for the sawing up of the conclusion of a contract for the amount of (attention!) one hundred and twenty billion rubles!
This scheme (thanks to the resonance ) could not be sold earlier even under Shoigu. But they say the new Minister has already been fed into his ears. The lobbyist is the Deputy Minister – General Krivoruchko (who has still retained his position under the new team).
/ on the author’s video, filmed in the SVO zone, an analysis of the jambs of this very NSU 2.0, as well as an analysis of the jambs in the FPV ” Doomsday ” , which is still supplied (and operates on the same frequencies) . @romanov_92

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 3 2024 14:22 utc | 188

Posted by: Ralph | Aug 3 2024 12:07 utc | 176
Post-War research showed that one of the main factors determining the level of casualties suffered was force density. Outnumbering the enemy by significant margins (the so-called 3:1 ratio) would increase the chances of success, but that ratio did not generate logarithmic results, at some point the increased density became counter-productive. This was one of the drivers of the’ empty battlefield’ syndrome, increasingly seen from WW2 onwards. As a side note it also changed the CRT (Combat Results Tables) used in military simulations so that casualties were percentage based, commercial rules stuck to stacking limits, but PC based simulations often include density modifiers for casualty generation.
Later research, studying mass attacks, post-WWII, reinforced this finding and better explained the resilience of heavily out-numbered defenders, than simply better training, occupying defensive positions or support available. This was why the two Cold-War forces adopted different doctrines that attempted to achieve the same golden ratio but by methods that reflected the many social, technological and doctrinal differences. Fast forward to the SMO where Ukraine is forced now to use less well trained soldiers in greater numbers, to compensate, whereas Russia is able to operate using a smaller foot print, the reverse of the NATO/Warpac dynamic.
The problems with this approach is two fold. NATO equipment and doctrine is designed to tackle large foot-print forces that concentrate mass to achieve success, but they are now facing an army that has always stressed firepower, both direct and indirect, but can now, thanks to increased proficiency and technology, employ it in a more dispersed mode. So for example DPICM (Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions) or cluster/cassette rounds would be utterly devastating against a traditional Soviet style mass attack, but are far less effective firing at dispersed targets; whereas, Russian forces, even dispersed, can direct huge volumes of effective area/direct fire, against targets that are increasingly having to concentrate. End result, disparate casualty ratios.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 14:42 utc | 189

@Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 4:46 utc | 141
It has been that way since time immemorial, the winning army killed all the men and older women and kept the women/girls of childbearing age.
@Posted by: canuck | Aug 3 2024 13:23 utc | 181
Roosevelt was actually re-elected in 1940 on an anti-war platform, but immediately went to trying to escalate against the Germans in the Atlantic while escalating support to the British while respecting the blockade of Germany. The whole Pearl Harbour incident is clouded in questions, for example why did the Pacific fleet get moved to Hawaii when it could have been much more safely located on the West coast? Together with the oil embargo, it seems much more as if the US was trying to goad the Japanese into an attack. Same thing in WW1, Wilson re-elected in 1916 on an anti-war ticket, then within months used some spurious BS to get involved in the European War. Its always the oligarchs who drive to war, using the media to try to manipulate the population into supporting their decision.
The book “Tomorrow the World” by Stephen Wertheim is an excellent coverage of how the Council of Foreign relations was used to help the US oligarchy formulate a plan to dominate the world after the fall of France in mid-1940. Everything after that was about destroying Germany and Japan (they would have liked Germany and the Soviet Union to destroy each other, but the Soviets had different plans) and implementing US hegemony.
A very good discussion between the author, Wertheim and Andrew Bacevish (also a very good writer on US foreign policy) about his book and US foreign policy generally:
Tomorrow, the World: A discussion with Stephen Wertheim and Andrew Bacevich

Posted by: Roger | Aug 3 2024 14:47 utc | 190

https://t.me/UAVDEV/6957

Continuing the topic of qualitative and quantitative assessment of drones.
I would not be so categorical , Sudoplatovtsy are working on changing frequencies, albeit not as quickly as we would like. The 550 MHz drones that irritate Agent Flash so much are Sudoplatov’s. But there are nuances…
Non-standard communications exist in the Russian Federation, from at least three private manufacturers + a special order from ELRS from China. But the Ministry of Defense cannot satisfy its appetites purely quantitatively, plus, it is simply impossible to install its own communications on Sudoplatov drones. Assemblies are assembled from what is supplied to them. And where it is approved for delivery and how to get there is a mystery for most.
Then these drones go to consumers and lie around in warehouses, because there is no desire to give them to the Ukrainians whole, and there is nowhere and nothing to supply non-standard ones. Alexander, here, says the same thing . At the same time, the guys who make non-standard communications were never given government money for an assembly line where they could stamp out thousands .
This is either stupidity or malicious intent … Actually, I’ve been saying for a year now – there will be no transparent mechanism for interaction with a private sector where an honest developer can earn money and not go to jail, there will be NOTHING. Modern warfare is technological and requires a quick response to new inputs. The USSR could survive on the fact that the best minds worked in boxes, because there was nowhere else to do it. The Russian Federation does not have such a trump card.
There are brilliant minds in the defense industry, but they cannot handle the entire load. And civilian minds are often not employed in the SVO at all. There will be a mechanism for interaction – then monopolization will be appropriate. At least, developers will be able to contribute to the common cause and form a common product. And the monopolist will not dictate strange rules (limiting developers in creativity and turning any undertaking into a dull design bureau with a thirty-year meeting cycle), but will act as an assistant and patron, providing developers with components, materials, equipment…
An example on the face – they crookedly rethought the decisions of the Ukrainians from a year ago and now force everyone to shove their products there without a condom. And whoever does not agree – get the fuck off the beach… We will not win like that.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 3 2024 14:48 utc | 191

anon2020 | Aug 3 2024 14:22 utc | 188
There are so many trash Russian tg channels I have have long since stopped bothering to read them.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 14:52 utc | 192

Simplicius76’s latest article is about the crackdown on corruption in the Russian military.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/russian-mod-purges-hit-fever-pitch
I am yet to see the self promoting gasbag Martyanov or his bumchum Larry Johnson even mention it.

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 3 2024 14:55 utc | 193

@Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 3 2024 13:37 utc | 182
The oil sanctions didn’t come in until the Japanese attack on French Indochina, Japan was in China since the mid-1930s in a long slow slog of a war as the Chinese retreated to the interior. The vast majority of the Japanese military was in China, the “island hopping” campaign was a bit of a side show. The real reason the Japanese surrendered was the Soviet intervention in Manchuria and Sakhalin where they destroyed the Japanese in a matter of weeks and were poised to invade the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido. Nearly every Japanese city had already been destroyed by high explosive+incendiary mass bombing raids so the two nuclear bombs made little difference.
The US then froze out the Soviets from Japan and immediately went into southern Korea to take as much as they could, while installing a puppet regime full of those that had collaborated with the Japanese who then massacred 200,000+ opposition Koreans. That’s why we got a Korean War, all down to the Americans, Korea should never have been divided. The North Korean leader had been the leader of the resistance against the Japanese.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 3 2024 14:57 utc | 194

It is simply not going to happen – and nothing suggests it! Nothing at all!!
Posted by: Julian | Aug 3 2024 8:34 utc | 155
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Yup, that doesn’t sound frantic like you’re trying to convince yourself of something. LOL

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2024 14:59 utc | 195

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 3 2024 14:07 utc | 186
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Way to miss the mark. That the Russians are purging the scumbags WHILE THEY ARE WINNING is a sign of health. Health of the state, health of Putin’s Presidency.
When was the last time you heard of the Ukrainians or Americans purging their MICs?
Stop trying to score cheap points. More often than not, you’re stepping on a rake.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 3 2024 15:02 utc | 196

About the analogies of military approach to water and cephalopods, Bruce Lee famously spoke of Martial Arts as “Be like water”. He was heavily influenced by Wing Chun, a fundamental part of which is Chi Sau, also known as sticky hands, which is about handfighting, wrists to wrists, sensitively flowing and probing for openings in the opponent’s defense.

Posted by: Featherless | Aug 3 2024 15:10 utc | 197

Posted by: Marvin | Aug 3 2024 9:22 utc | 161
You are suggesting that a Russian-friendly population would make it difficult for the West to undermine Russian projects in an unconquered Ukraine. However, this doesn’t fit with the US record of interference around the world over the last two centuries. In fact, Uncle Sam seems particularly wary of any type of government that’s too popular with the locals insofar as their interests rarely coincide with his own.
So, in the event that Ukrainians welcome a pro-Russian government hoping for stability, which is difficult to believe at this point, I don’t see what would prevent Western projects to take the whole thing apart. Breaking stuff will always be easier and cheaper than building things anew.

Posted by: robin | Aug 3 2024 15:13 utc | 198

Posted by: Biswapriya Purkayast | Aug 3 2024 14:55 utc | 193
The transformation of the RuAF will, it seems be both doctrinal and cultural. The Soviet Army was a powerful force on paper, but in reality issues that plagued the society it drew its soldiers, sailors and airmen from reduced its effectiveness. Post-Cold War, those issues exploded, reducing the force to a pale, ragged shadow of its former self, Putin has worked tirelessly to make the RuAF a force fit for the 21st Century and NATO decided to kindly help him out!

Posted by: Milites | Aug 3 2024 15:14 utc | 199

Armenia has transferred its Tochka ballistic missiles to Ukraine as a sign of subservience to the west.
One Tochka recently was filmed as it exploded inside the launcher.

The Ukrainians seem to have found a new source of Tochka short-range ballistic missiles, which disappeared from the battlefield in mid-2022 after they exhausted their stockpile.
These are likely Armenian missiles covertly transferred to Ukraine in a show of fealty to the West.⬇️
As can be seen in the video, these munitions have not been cared for particularly well since the fall of the Soviet Union – and after two years of dealing with far harder targets, Russian air defenses have found the ones that did make it aloft easy pickings.
(Armenian Tochka launcher in the last picture, from 2016)
https://x.com/ArmchairW/status/1819752946743005683

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 3 2024 15:15 utc | 200