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August 29, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-206
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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I don’t want to speculate on possible engineering that could solve the noise mystery on the remote off-chance that I could be right about something 😛 😀 (it’s unlikely but why risk it?) Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 0:26 utc | 401 They got 10.2 million pensioners. Simplicius seems to think they might have 18 million based on cell phone data. Eight million left? Half would be female except for horrific losses of able bodied males. What % are disabled but not counted as a pensioner? How many boys under 18? Who’s left to be a miner, doctor, farmer, factory worker or police? Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 31 2024 0:32 utc | 402 The most obvious, and less sensationalist, explanation is that the majority of the UA are made up of in-house hastily taught conscripts, or worse, conscripts who’ve been hastily trained by NATO personnel*. These troops are ok with the Shoot part of the infantry triad, passable with the Communicate part, but typically poor on the Move part. This means when they occupy fixed defences, especially fortifications, they do a passable job at preventing breakthroughs, or at least delaying them and causing attrition on the attacking force. Obstacle belts, prepared arcs and boundaries, and pre-registered target points for area fire (both direct and indirect), go a long way to mitigating the weaknesses inherent in such troops. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 0:34 utc | 403 Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 31 2024 0:32 utc | 402 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 0:53 utc | 404 I just want to note here that the story of the ancient Sacred Band of Thebes is not universally accepted by all historians. There are some dissenters, it isn’t a pure example of a “consensus”. The following is just from Wiki, but anyone serious could follow it up. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 1:40 utc | 405 Dr. David D. Leitao is a respected and tenured professor and the chair of Classics at San Francisco State University. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 1:51 utc | 406 Some people hear think this is Russia winning.
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 31 2024 2:01 utc | 407 Some people hear think this is Russia winning. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 2:08 utc | 408 The invasion was a mistake for Russia, the western countries are providing old equipment and watching Russia gets its face smashed in and not losing soldiers to do it. It’s a win win for them whichever way the war goes. Soon the tanks and artillery will run dry, we’re already seeing the signs of this. Posted by: Banished | Aug 31 2024 2:10 utc | 409 “The invasion was a mistake for Russia, the western countries are providing old equipment and watching Russia gets its face smashed in and not losing soldiers to do it.” Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 2:13 utc | 410 Hapchazzard | Aug 31 2024 0:02 utc | 398 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 2:24 utc | 411 Wisco | Aug 31 2024 2:13 utc | 410 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 2:26 utc | 412 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 2:26 utc | 412 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 2:40 utc | 413 Re: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2024 17:44 utc | 133
Re: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2024 20:54 utc | 200
You seem confused. Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 2:54 utc | 414 I think the trolls here are pretty much Hasbara. The Ukie vs Russia war has always been promoted entirely by the “neocon” faction of the US State Dept and big media. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 3:00 utc | 415 Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 2:54 utc | 414 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 3:09 utc | 416 @ Julian | Aug 31 2024 2:54 utc | 414 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 31 2024 3:42 utc | 417 Weird that Canuck favors the consensus regarding the gay fighting battalion in Greece 2500 years ago, but disregards the modern science consensus about anthropogenic climate change. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 4:10 utc | 418 Hapchazzard | Aug 31 2024 0:02 utc | 398 Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 31 2024 4:19 utc | 419 MiniMO | Aug 31 2024 4:19 utc | 419 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 4:25 utc | 420 You, minoMO, are one of the allowable trolls here because you are not a jackassinine retard. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 4:26 utc | 421 Keep it up, miniMO, and you will be run right off the board. You are playing with fire. Best to keep your criticisms less personal. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 4:37 utc | 422 ZH has a posting up with the title
Another reader called Z’s call shameless….the oil imports are from Russia and not likely to stop any time soon Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 31 2024 5:06 utc | 423 Peter please listen to your doctor and take your meds again. Posted by: Peterhasatinyweewee | Aug 31 2024 5:16 utc | 424 modern science consensus about anthropogenic climate change. Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 31 2024 5:19 utc | 425 Peter! Please get help! We don’t want you to kill yourself! Posted by: Peteratehisdogspoop | Aug 31 2024 5:25 utc | 426 Peterhasatinyweewee | Aug 31 2024 5:16 utc | 424 Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 31 2024 5:25 utc | 427 Please shittypisstorian, tell your freind Peter to get help! Posted by: shittypisstorian | Aug 31 2024 5:33 utc | 428 Wow. That brought the nafo troll factories out in full force. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 5:42 utc | 429 Включение на Первом Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 31 2024 5:59 utc | 430 Sorry, I forgot to add some Nazi propaganda, discrimination and religious hatred to my posts so that the trolls leave me alone. Posted by: PeterisGodonlybetter | Aug 31 2024 6:00 utc | 431 Wow. That brought the nafo troll factories out in full force. Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 31 2024 6:05 utc | 432 Posted by: PeterisGodonlybetter | Aug 31 2024 6:00 utc | 431 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 31 2024 6:13 utc | 433 Barrel Brown Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 6:23 utc | 434 There is a troll lurking about who is so emotionally hyper-focused on Peter that they make multiple usernames using the word “peter” in it. Definitely a psycho and a stalker. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 7:01 utc | 435 Definitely a psycho and a stalker. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 7:06 utc | 436 I bet it is a smallish and physically weak man, balding and unattractive, but still under the age of 40. Never has worked a job that wasn’t in a cubicle. Just speculating of course. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 7:39 utc | 437 Yes lasers come in all sizes, LIDAR too which are available as small handheld units. Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 31 2024 7:42 utc | 438 Big thanks to Down South for regularly keeping the bar informed with timely updates. Unimperator too and some others at times. Glad to see that b seems to be functioning and posting again at a healthy rate near 100% of his pre-illness standard. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 31 2024 8:34 utc | 439 Fighter Bomber is a good channel, worth following for RF aviation updates and a certain cultural perspective.
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 31 2024 9:23 utc | 440 Re: Posted by: Sam | Aug 30 2024 1:00 utc | 247
This is very silly. Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 9:36 utc | 441 Re: Posted by: watcher | Aug 30 2024 3:38 utc | 256
General Winter arrived in 2022 – and did nothing, General Winter arrived in 2023 – and did nothing, why would it be any different in 2024? Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 9:45 utc | 442 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 30 2024 3:54 utc | 258
No it won’t! Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 9:49 utc | 443 Anyway, only my take on it 🙂 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 31 2024 9:50 utc | 444 Troll recruitment went straight to hell after the zanon and shadowbanned moment, not sure what happened maybe a budget cut on the MoA agenda to pay for the six sky marshals following Tulsi around. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 31 2024 9:50 utc | 445 Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 9:49 utc | 443 Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 31 2024 9:52 utc | 446 Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 2:54 utc | 414 Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 31 2024 10:04 utc | 447
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 31 2024 10:07 utc | 448 From previous TG posts, the “T” suffix is for “thermal” as this FAB variant is streamlined and thermally rated to be carried at supersonic airspeeds. The streamlining appears to be the main factor in glide range enhancement.
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 31 2024 10:21 utc | 449 The streamlining appears to be the main factor in glide range enhancement. Posted by: too scents | Aug 31 2024 10:28 utc | 450 Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 9:49 utc | 443 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 31 2024 10:30 utc | 451 Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 9:49 utc | 443 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 31 2024 10:30 utc | 452 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 31 2024 10:30 utc | 452 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 31 2024 10:35 utc | 453 Posted by: Julian | Aug 31 2024 9:49 utc | 443 Posted by: James M. | Aug 31 2024 10:35 utc | 454
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 31 2024 11:01 utc | 455 ,”I read they increased the strap-on-module’s wingspan. Posted by: Yarpos | Aug 31 2024 11:06 utc | 456 “Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 30 2024 3:54 utc | 258 I read they increased the strap-on-module’s wingspan. Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 31 2024 11:17 utc | 458 Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 31 2024 7:42 utc | 438 “Peter please listen to your doctor and take your meds again. Please post a link if you happen across anything specific.
Posted by: too scents | Aug 31 2024 11:32 utc | 461 Trying to use logic in analyzing the irrational gets tricky. I could actually see Zelensky try to hold Kursk above all else, not just sending his reserves but everything left of his army. Russia basically just drives across Ukraine, watching for minefields. And they obey – without shooting him – as they always do. And his western sponsors follow slavishly in lockstep. Who has the cohones to say anything different or oppose? Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 31 2024 11:33 utc | 462 Weird that Canuck favors the consensus regarding the gay fighting battalion in Greece 2500 years ago, but disregards the modern science consensus about anthropogenic climate change. 105….this from 3days ago kinda Posted by: Jo | Aug 31 2024 11:50 utc | 464 Sorry, Julian aristo is correct-most of the fortifications have been taken; Ukes have less men less materiel; taking the Nazis to Kursk was a huge mistake as they were the ones guarding any retreats of the Ukraniun army now you see more retreats. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 11:53 utc | 465 462 – Pulling out of Kursk may now be politically impossible for Zelensky, though the evidence that it has weakened the AFU elsewhere is mounting. Posted by: Waldorf | Aug 31 2024 12:01 utc | 466 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 11:53 utc | 465 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 31 2024 12:08 utc | 467 “Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 11:53 utc | 465 If you asked how many have been killed in the NATO-Russian War no one in the United States would know. Posted by: Elmagnostic | Aug 31 2024 12:36 utc | 469 “Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 11:53 utc | 465 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 12:37 utc | 470 I feel like the quality of troll has really gone downhill. Sort of like the quality of Maerican engineering, or it’s military and strategic leadership. An enshittification if you will. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 31 2024 13:23 utc | 471 I stick with my idea:Ukraine army will collapse- earliest October 2024, latest February 2025 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 31 2024 13:38 utc | 472 Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 31 2024 2:01 utc | 407 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2024 13:41 utc | 473 It looks like he wasn’t talking out of his ass and the Russians were working a plan. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 31 2024 14:19 utc | 474 Exclusive from Kursk region Posted by: Ed | Aug 31 2024 15:29 utc | 475 “It looks like he wasn’t talking out of his ass and the Russians were working a plan.” “At some point even the clowns posting for pennies for Empire..or out of deluded patriotism.. might realize their interests aren’t being served by the Imbecilic Demons of the West, and turn. And then we get popcorn. The center cannot hold. The worst are full of a passionate intensity (are they not?)” Posted by: too scents | Aug 31 2024 11:32 utc | 461 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 31 2024 16:04 utc | 478 https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/nora-barrows-friedman/israel-tightens-restrictions-food-medicine-gaza-crossings Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 31 2024 16:09 utc | 479 Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 31 2024 16:09 utc | 479 Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 31 2024 16:11 utc | 480
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 31 2024 16:12 utc | 481 This appalling tragedy will forge a series of clichés Posted by: Simon | Aug 31 2024 16:46 utc | 482 Posted by: Peteratehisdogspoop | Aug 31 2024 5:25 utc | 426 Posted by: Ed | Aug 31 2024 16:58 utc | 483 Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 31 2024 10:04 utc | 447 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2024 17:10 utc | 484 I am very confident this will continue on into 2025, whereas you seem to be having a buck each way – rubbishing me for suggesting it will continue on into 2025 in one post and then i in another post suggesting the conflict will continue on for another 5 years!! Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 31 2024 17:18 utc | 485
Once 404 can no longer be used against Russia, I suspect Poland will erase the remaining nazis in Galicia and Volyn. Payback coming at some point. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 17:42 utc | 486
There is a video at the link though an account may be needed to view it. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 17:57 utc | 488 Things are going worse from now on in this UKR proxy war on either sides, is it ‘only’ a SMO yet? Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Aug 31 2024 18:45 utc | 489 Another Chinese drone swarm video. Russia and China seem to be sharing a lot of mil tech so I assume Russia will have this technology soon. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 18:46 utc | 490 spare_truth_01 | Aug 31 2024 18:45 utc | 489 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 19:02 utc | 491 @newbie: You want to get an extra visual attention by inserting some unneccesary empty lines in Your posts here, a la CR-LFs? Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Aug 31 2024 19:07 utc | 492 Ukraine blackmailing nuclear plant staff – Moscow — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union Posted by: snake | Aug 31 2024 19:12 utc | 493 Who else can hit us in Europe and with what? Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 31 2024 19:16 utc | 494 He is forgetting US submarines in Baltic; also TNW shot from space? Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 19:39 utc | 495 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 18:46 utc | 490 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Aug 31 2024 19:41 utc | 496 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 31 2024 18:46 utc | 490 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Aug 31 2024 19:46 utc | 497 There are still a couple million non-pensioners living in Kiev. The only industry in Kiev is sucking theUS teat. Much of that population is at least moderately clever and are about to bolt for greener pastures. Western Ukraine still has a lot of Nazi crazies imagining Western wunderwaffe are going to save them. When the Red Army approaches they will run. Even some of the pensioners are going to run, or shuffle, when they realize all the healthy men are gone, no one to care for them, and the Russians would rather see their stupid Banderite ass freeze and starve. Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 31 2024 19:47 utc | 498 And at the time they had a vast pool of meat to replenish losses. Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 31 2024 20:11 utc | 499 Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 31 2024 19:47 utc | 498 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Aug 31 2024 20:14 utc | 500 |
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