The cost of merely maintaining status quo in Kursk direction for the AFU is transferring on average another battalion every 3 days. .
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 29 2024 20:09 utc | 188
They wish! For each 300 Kia you have 1.500 wia of which 300 irrecoverably maimed and say 600 that need some weeks in hospital

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 29 2024 20:59 utc | 203

Newbie | Aug 29 2024 20:59 utc | 203
The last number I saw was approaching 7000 so I guess now it will be at least 7000 KIA…. plus wounded. Though in drone wars, wounded may be low as they are also finished off.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 29 2024 21:09 utc | 205

Trubind1 @ 202
The Kursk invasion allows missile strikes into traditional Russian territory, it itself is a strike into traditional Russian territory. The entire discussion of permission to strike into Russian territory is now moot and any apparent hesitation or deliberation is simply for the western sheeple.
The west isn’t trying to fool Russia at least through its media, nor is it slowly boiling the Russian frog, it is slowly boiling the western populace frog. After the Kursk precedent Ukraine can sail some sort of ship off Vladivostok and launch missiles at bases or arms factories there. Kursk is much more than meets the eye.
Someone countered the USA has plenty of land based planes in EU to launch nukes, no need for the aircraft carriers, those are there solely for the middle east. Stop seeing things as isolated events, start looking at a full court press which includes the threat of a nuclear first strike. Talking about striking into Russia is done, they are striking into Russia.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 29 2024 21:14 utc | 207

RE: He wrote – “The Russians fought like men. The Americans fight like homosexuals”.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 29 2024 21:05 utc | 204
Those “Taliban”, always cutting to the chase on matters.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 29 2024 21:16 utc | 209

Ukraine F-16 shot down by friendly fire.
“. . . shot down by the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system . . .

Posted by: Fíréan | Aug 29 2024 21:31 utc | 211

Newbie | Aug 29 2024 20:59 utc | 203
The last number I saw was approaching 7000 so I guess now it will be at least 7000 KIA…. plus wounded. Though in drone wars, wounded may be low as they are also finished off.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 29 2024 21:09 utc | 205
I know, over 7.000 , but I gave a daily low number
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Would those ratios hold true .
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 29 2024 21:16 utc | 208
The 1/6 Kia 1/6 wia permanently disabled 2/3 wia recoverable in some days/weeks/months generally hold

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 29 2024 21:37 utc | 213

Night Tripper | Aug 29 2024 21:20 utc | 210
your endless cheerleading for the West is boring ..
“Airfields and military assets near Moscow hit!” oh MY !!
hit them already then .. FAFO
The Kursk failure in the first 3 days provided all the time in the world for cleanup.
with the bonus of fresh Uki reserves flowing in over the elite bodies .
Pokrovsky shudders and no one is Nuking anything over Ukraine ..
No one ..

Posted by: Carrion | Aug 29 2024 21:39 utc | 215

Blackout on events in Kursk? What are you smoking? There’s an absolute wealth of footage of the Western kamikazes getting hoisted, as it were, on their own petards.
But yes, please keep spinning, it’s amusing watching people desperate to insinuate the Kursk incursion is anything other than a disaster for Ukraine and it’s sponsors. Turns out all the hegemons armored vehicles and all the hegemons mercenaries couldn’t put Ukraine together again.
But then this is the same pattern with the counteroink. Even as our lying eyes are showing UAF forces dismounting into minefields in open fields under artillery fire, the 77th internet warriors Brigade and their NAFO followers were confidently asserting Russia was militarily collapsing and Putin himself was distraught. The need to personalize the conflict is such a weird psychosis of the narrative, more significantly the absolute inversion of reality isn’t doing the West any favors.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 29 2024 21:54 utc | 217

Kind of a slow day, only 200+ comments in the open Ukraine thread.
I’m not sure what to think of the Kursk situation at the moment. We know that the line of contact, to the extent that there is one, has stabilized. We know this from the YT mappers that are generally trustworthy, if not always accurate.
We also know that if Kursk was a diversion, it failed. That leaves the open question of “what now.”
To the extent that the puppet/monkey has to listen to his organ grinders, I don’t see how Zelensky can stop feeding in men and material just to tread water. But I wonder why Russia doesn’t try something creative, like dropping special forces behind enemy lines, maybe in Sumy or closer to the Ukraine/Russia border. If its as heavily forested as they say, even a small number of special forces could wreak havoc with Ukraines supply lines into the region. Not sure how any UAF groups inside Kursk oblast are getting food, fuel, and water, other than raids on local villages.
Perhaps someone made a calculation that it is better to save such forces for bigger things and just let the Kursk adventure fail due to the passage of time. That kind of sucks for any Russian citizens left behind, though.
Also, if stories are true that the foreign mercs are committing war crimes by killing and raping civilians, that speaks to an undisciplined force that wastes time and resources on non-military objectives. Doesn’t bode well for NAFO, in the medium term (by October when the trees drop leaves a “turkey shoot” of those mercs might be on the menu.)

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 29 2024 22:05 utc | 219

The globalist elite/occult/satanists have a belief you can speak things into existence. The more they say it, and the more people who repeat it, the more likely it will come true. I’m just telling you that is part of their worldview.
You can see it in the comments here at MoA. All the talk of “Putin needs to nuke,” or “EU will nuke,” or “Why doesnt’t someone please start a nuclear war somewhere, please!” makes no sense unless you realize many of the posters are working as members of the same loosely associated occult group. It’s annoying to us, but they see it as part of their religion. For some reason, they believe a global nuclear war will usher in their permanent ascendancy of masters of the universe, or whatever.
So lighten up everyone. The Russians never need to resort to nukes to counter enemy actions. They themselves have said all they need to do is ship missiles to America’s enemies. I don’t know what that means, but I assume that includes the Houthis, Iran, North Korea, China, Central and South American cartels, groups such as the FARC or Shining Path, or even driving a ship loaded with missiles into Puget Sound, launch the missiles at U.S. targets, then broadcast an announcement from the Free Vancouver Movement taking credit for the attack. The point is, Russia has LOTS of options.
Now, back to the topic of globalist crazies who plan to survive a nuclear war, Mark Zuckerberg is building a bunker complex in Hawaii: I find it humorous that any globalist who had any part in inciting a nuclear war thinks they will emerge unscathed. I came across a Russian quote to the gist of their nuclear warheads are targeted at national military, government, and industrial sites as well as non-national sites. I wish I had bookmarked the quote because it seemed to imply the Russians intended to nuke non-national targets – in other words, globalist bunkers.
Take all that for what you will, but I sure wish the satanic/occult trolls would knock off their incessant and boring attempts to incite nuclear wars in the comment section of MoA.

Posted by: Nobody Special | Aug 29 2024 22:27 utc | 221

They prefer to blabber on about the end of the dollar hegemony as if it’s the magic bullet.
Putin may be desperate not to react, but react he will have to at some point – even against his own will.
The west will not back down, in fact it’s increasing the aggression.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 29 2024 21:20 utc | 210
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It is a magic bullet. It will topple the West without firing a shot or provoking kinetic escalation.
Putin reacts on his schedule, not NATO’s, and not yours. That’s why he is a good leader. VVP isn’t easily influenced by outside noises.
The West can (and will) do whatever it wants. Since Oct 7th. it has been shamelessly conducting a genocide in front of the entire world.
Being scared of the West doing something crazy or immoral is business as usual. No one expects the West to do anything intelligent or productive, and any time someone is repeatedly and consistently exposed to fear, they begin to tune the source of the fear out.
Like the guy who talks a big game (ex. Trump). It’s not long before people ignore it because it is mostly background noise and propaganda for domestic consumption.
It took over a year to get F-16s into Ukraine for Russia to destroy. What exactly is Russia supposed to be afraid of?
And what will you whine and moan about in 2 months when Kursk is cleaned out and the entire Donbass has been liberated?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 29 2024 22:42 utc | 223

@216
The F-16 more likely suffered engine flameout, could not restart and the low quality US ejection seat failed.
You give Patriot too much credit. It is same quality as F-16.

Posted by: paddy | Aug 29 2024 22:52 utc | 225

An engine failure?! Phew, so the Yanks operating the Patriot won’t get the ₽1.5M award after all.

Posted by: blueswede | Aug 29 2024 23:19 utc | 227

Nobody Special | Aug 29 2024 22:27 utc | 221
*** Mark Zuckerberg is building a bunker complex in Hawaii ***
Is that the same Hawaii that’s surrounded by ocean … gets regular (though usually small) earthquakes … and has active volcanoes?
Hope in the event of war the Belgorod is somewhere safely near, and po-face gets a Poseidon.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 29 2024 23:28 utc | 229

Posted by: paddy | Aug 29 2024 22:52 utc | 225
It’s been known to do this before.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/2003-no-one-hated-us-army-patriot-missiles-more-us-air-force-pilots-193342

Posted by: Milites | Aug 29 2024 23:45 utc | 231

Jake Blanchard | Aug 29 2024 23:42 utc | 230
To answer your question more directly twice. Broken throttle cable twice. I stopped doing pre-flights when I came down with what I have now. By that time I was flying on instinct not thought processes.
First engine out though was at only 350 hours. Manged to dump in in the scrub without much damage. The tiny fuel filter that was on it when I bought it had clogged with bad fuel. Put a very fine industrial size filter on it after that.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 29 2024 23:56 utc | 233

jpc | Aug 29 2024 9:22 utc | 5
…doesn’t explain why?[kursk]
1/ Britush bloodlust. Killing Russians on Russian soil is a long held wet dream.
Which is why special forces were the tip of the spear, killing indiscriminately.
2/ Britush hubris. The military plan, such that it was, expected Russian troops to pull out of Donbass, exactly mirroring the over of Ukrainian troops.
3/ Kursk NPP … the Brutish thought the Ukies could take get there and take it. Which is why they had Syrsky double down and double down again. With enough pressure the Russians would crack, and eventually move men from Donbass.
3/ “humiliate” Putin and
4/ provoke him to respond /overreact.
Peter AU1 | Aug 29 2024 9:57 utc | 10
<>i…The day before, the Ukrainian Armed Forces posted a photo of the planes, which revealed their storage location.
Ah, luvs me a bit of NAFO grandiosity. Opsec? Nah. Let’s taunt the Russians on tictoc for klout
Immaculate deception | Aug 29 2024 15:40 utc | 90
…U$ troops in Moldova.
Yep been there a year or more. 101st airborne.
I was posting links way back in the day. “Meh”, was the indifference here. I ain’t looking now. You can search engine or someone else can do it for you.
Fíréan | Aug 29 2024 21:31 utc | 211
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Ukraine F-16 shot down by friendly fire.
“. . . shot down by the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system
Surely Shirley, they’d both be equipped with IFF???????
sean the leprechaun | Aug 29 2024 17:11 utc | 113
Prigozhin’s Moscow March, and Weekend in Rostov. Only the inner inner circle will really know what it was all about.
But someone with the connections was able to take him out, and suppress any truly forensic investigation into means and methods.
Putin will have been able to channel his inner sleuth and surmise who.
MiniMO | Aug 29 2024 17:29 utc | 122
…Shadowbanned …would tell it like it is…
Yes. But he spammed threads. I reckon I wasn’t the only barfly that had my scroll bar on automatic bypass on seeing his diarrhoea.
If he’d simply made his point, and perhaps responded circumspectly, he likely would have been somewhat tolerated. But he became an intolerable barflea excruciating pest, and I’m glad, with threads now already regularly hitting 500+ posts, that he’s not here adding his repetitive clutter.
horseguards | Aug 29 2024 17:32 utc | 125
F-16… that’s been the dilemma and hesitant on handing them over to Ukraine.
If they are anywhere in country, they are in range of the Russians. If they are safely in a NATO rim country, they can’t fly direct to engage Russians, as that’s against “the rules”.
Ghost of Zanon | Aug 29 2024 19:52 utc | 174
…commenter name who keeps asking Napoleon: where are the F16s?
That’d be reliable old barfellow, Rhyming-slang.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 30 2024 0:02 utc | 235

Gotta watch those absolutist statements, old fella!
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 29 2024 23:42 utc | 230
Jake, Jake Jake…. I have lived a life.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 30 2024 0:00 utc | 234
You really should address Peter as “Sir” or maybe “Don” for our espanoparlantes.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 30 2024 0:25 utc | 237

Thinking about possible SMO stopping points, ie the Oblast limits which might suit different Kremlin goals.
The Absolute Minimum
Crimea, Donesk, Lughansk, Zaphorizia, Kherson. These have already voted to join RF, despite still needing some/much territorial completion. Putin has clearly stated, many times, that if Kiev pulls out of these 5, RF will ceasefire and negotiate in good faith about Ukraine’s future.
Minimum Plus:
Kharkov, seems pretty essential. Needs its referendum and reclamation via many months of fighting. Lots of Russophiles.
Sumy, seems pretty essential. Goes well with the Karkhov zone, as a nice northern buffer. Needs its referendum and reclamation via many months of fighting.
Mikolaiv, essential as a land bridge to Odessa. Needs its referendum and reclamation via many months of fighting. Lots of Russophiles.
Odessa, seems pretty essential. Needs its referendum and reclamation via many months of fighting. A necessary land bridge to integrate Transnistria. Lots of Russophiles.
All East of the Dneiper
That’s a hell of a lot more SMO; that’s not what Putin first envisaged or has ever hinted at; and not so greatly Russophilic. Yes, Lavrov and Medvedev and some other Duma firebrands have suggested that far, but could just be big talk.
My money would be on continued SMO fighting to gain the first five oblasts, then military blackmail for the second five regions (ie, give us or we’ll escalate big time till we win them, only then we’ll stop). I just don’t see Putin fighting to the Dneiper … or to Poland!

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 30 2024 0:34 utc | 239

To all worried about a Ukrainian strike at the north of the povrosk salient.
Russia is moving south and west to cut the supply lines only. Russia will only move into povrosk, which as the supply line central node is accumulating infantry reserves. The abandonment of the south eastern towns was bait to encourage a jump into povrosk. The Russians have recognized it and are working to level the front line in front of povrosk to use artillery and other indirect fires to attrit the defenders. Russias bold announcements to take povrosk and subsequent media announcements about it being about to fall is all lies.
The Russians aren’t moving in and ukraine has reserves in there. It’ll be bombarded as long as necessary until everyone is dead.
It is a trap and russia sees it. They are moving to level the front only to the southeast to complete the security belt for donetsk.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 30 2024 0:43 utc | 241

Oi, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Certainly Kiev would like to counter and flank the salient that’s developed from Russia’s rather quick advance but that doesn’t mean it’s possible. It also doesn’t mean that an attempt wouldn’t be catastrophic. The standard issue that Kiev has about 5 reserve brigades that are “combat ready”. Generously, that’s 25,000 troops they’re ready to brag about a little. (And Kiev is prone to exaggeration.) theoretically there are a lot more on the Belorussian border but if those guys have managed to avoid combat so far, there’s a reason.
Ukraine is tired and battered. The Kursk oblast adventure makes sense as a (near) last ditch attempt to change board. That means it is the most important think for Kiev and likely any additional offensive efforts would be to compliment that. Russia didn’t move reserves that way, so it’s probably not as quick to evict the VSU as it might have been. Difficult but manageable within larger Russian goals.
As for a real trap, maybe but that sort of Mongolian retreat trap would have been better even a few months ago when Ukraine was in better shape. You’d want a fairly large group of well-seasoned and motivated troops with the best gear you can round up. It looks like all of that was sent to Kursk.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 30 2024 0:43 utc | 243

It is an amusing mental exercise to imagine what actually happened to that F16, that so-called-ukraine has to announce it was shut down by ‘their own’ ‘Patriot’. Was is there more embarrassing than that? Why did they announce it so early? Why did they announce it at all?

Posted by: boneless | Aug 30 2024 0:49 utc | 245

4th June, 2007. –
President Putin is wrong when he says ( in Munich security conference 2007) that Russia should or will target the missile on Europe if america goes with anti missile defence plan in Poland in Europe. ]In fact it was not America but england which asked for ABM against Russia. BBC spy journalists were harassing presidential candidate Gore not to go ahead with Florida recount on ground” ally like britian want to conclude AMB deployment in Yorkshire as soon as possible so there should be no delay in govt. formation.” In other word accept fraudulent win of bush for sake of england ! Russia must target (rather than should) the nuclear missiles with multiple war heads against all ( including military instalations) of england because this cold war -like the one before- is being started by england for the benefit of english race only-.it is race war between the english parasite race versus the rest of the world-the sooner the rest of the world realizes that better it is for the world. look how Germany was vilified soon after fall of soviet union-look how russia is being vilified immediately after Putin made russia strong. Russia’s “partners” understand only two things: the big wallet and the big gun, as satan understands only Saint George’s spear. Time is near. -such is the evil propaganda of british spies inside america. . Poland is nothing but a proxy for the british bastards. It is no use targeting Poland -target the main villain which is england and the english nation which must be sorted out by the world. http://www.globalresearch.ca/new-world-order-the-founding-fathers/5445255
face 0f the evil.
When someone asked Bismarck once what he would do if the British invaded, he said he’d have the border police arrest them (or words to that effect).-that is how low the germans thought of the English army capability –and the Germans were right as was shown the cowardice of non fighting coward English troops in both world wars-they instigated others to fight but remained behind in actual fighting till late. Remember Bismarck said that when the pirate empire called british empire was at height of her pseudo power-in other words Prussians could defeat the English race at the height of their so called power. (and that was at height of pirate empire of the british at Victoria’s time) .And rightly so. english then and now are ready to fight only unarmed civilians. Prussia was the strongest army in the world at that time. It tells you how low English race is compared to the Germans and how much Germans could have gone up had they been not made to fight Russian in plot created by the English race-that plot is called world war one and two.

Posted by: Sam | Aug 30 2024 1:00 utc | 247

All East of the Dnieper
That’s a hell of a lot more SMO; that’s not what Putin first envisaged or has ever hinted at; and not so greatly Russophilic.
My money would be on continued SMO fighting to gain the first five oblasts, then military blackmail for the second five regions (i.e., give us or we’ll escalate big time till we win them, only then we’ll stop). I just don’t see Putin fighting to the Dnieper … or to Poland!
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 30 2024 0:34 utc | 239
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Agreed,
That is how I have seen it for a long time. Putin said that he is always ready to negotiate and he means it, that also includes the words ‘Had enough?’

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 30 2024 1:23 utc | 249

My money would be on continued SMO fighting to gain the first five oblasts, then military blackmail for the second five regions (ie, give us or we’ll escalate big time till we win them, only then we’ll stop). I just don’t see Putin fighting to the Dneiper … or to Poland!
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 30 2024 0:34 utc | 239
Maybe it’s “cheaper” to drive, and slaughter them, all the way to the river.
Afterwards show how easy to breach he river.
THEN magnanimously give them back their shitty oblasts with strict conditions.
My 2 cents
(always easier to take more and give back what they can’t demand than have to negotiate with retards who are too stupid to understand they have been thoroughly defeated)

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 30 2024 1:43 utc | 251

ZH has a posting up with the title
Friendly Fire Fiasco: Ukrainian Army Shoots Down Its Own F16 Jet, Pilot Killed
the quote

Update (5:15pm ET): It appears that the US-made F-16 fighter jet, which was handed over to Ukraine earlier this year, was downed by a Ukrainian Patriot air defense system in a friendly fire incident, Ukrainian lawmaker Maryana Bezuglaya said cited by TASS.
“According to my information, the F-16 of the Ukrainian pilot Alexey ‘Moonfish’ Mes was shot down by the Patriot anti-aircraft missile system due to a lack of coordination between the [military] units,” she wrote on Telegram.
The lawmaker criticized the Air Force of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for falsely describing the incident as “a crash.”
“The culture of lies in the Air Force Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as in other higher military headquarters, leads to the fact that the system of managing military decisions does not improve on the basis of truthful, consistently collected analytics, but deteriorates and even collapses, as is happening in the other directions,” she wrote.

ZH has a posting up with the title
CIA Lays Out Its View Of Kursk Operation For First Time
the quote

CIA’s number two, deputy director David Cohen, said it is going to be a “difficult fight” for the Russians as they try to wrest their territory back. He was addressing the Intelligence and National Security Summit in Washington on Wednesday.
“We can be certain that Putin will mount a counteroffensive to try to reclaim that territory,” Cohen said per Reuters. “I think our expectation is that that will be a difficult fight for the Russians.”
The CIA’s Cohen in the new remarks admitted that Russian gains have been steady but that this has come at an “extraordinary cost” in terms of lives and resources expended.
“But at the end of the day, none of it is a game changer in a strategic sense,” for the Russians, he went on to emphasize. The same could more easily be said about Ukraine’s Kursk incursion, but as expected for a US intelligence official he only kept the negative remarks for Russia.
Interestingly, Russian media picked up on the following exchange:

Cohen declined to answer a direct question about whether he and his colleagues at Langley were just as “surprised” by Ukraine’s incursion, noting that the significance and implications of the attack “remain to be seen.”
Ukraine reportedly did not consult its Western sponsors before launching the operation, leaving them puzzled over its ultimate goals.

It is highly likely that the CIA and Pentagon not only had foreknowledge of the operation, but even helped in the planning and execution, official White House statements to the contrary notwithstanding.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 30 2024 1:57 utc | 253

Doesn’t look like anyone can have demilitarization and denazification of ex-Ukraine unless one takes it all.
Can’t aim for any kind of future stable Russian or non-Russian “smaller Ukraine” (“Maloukraine”?) unless one does that.
Thus either way you have to take it all, either directly into Russia or as a new state.
It might be at a snail’s pace but most of it (anything non-Russian) will in the end likely be empty and broken and not to be rebuilt for a very long time except for perhaps things such as automated farming and animal husbandry and automated forestry. A “barren” deconstructed west except for military fortifications, military cities, and layers upon layers of defense. A large buffer zone created out of a country that chose to do suicide by attacking Russia.
Russia can spend the next twenty or thirty years on this if they like, or more; however long it takes to eradicate NATO and however long it takes to secure “the south-west” and to continue to secure it. A slow burn across the entire country with the vast majority of people leaving.
It’s could end up a bit like East Germany except if East Germany was all of Germany, mostly military and devoid of Germans, and until the end of time.
Maybe. 🙂

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 30 2024 3:36 utc | 255

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 30 2024 3:13 utc | 254
I’ll guess that logistics are a strain, especially as ordinarily there’s no reason to maintain high volumes of traffic through such an empty region. So, crunching the numbers says it’s more cost effective to ship artillery shells, missiles, and drones rather than more bodies which need food and water every day. The general staff of the AFU could be nauseous over how few troops have been drawn into the region from Russia. If all they use are ones who were based nearby then they’re getting the best kind of live fire training, courtesy of the elite troops of the AFU. The casualties are a bummer, but if those soldiers were fated to eventually face combat anyway, it might come out even in the end. They wouldn’t be rookies when facing the AFU when in, or west of, Donbass.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Aug 30 2024 3:46 utc | 257

This means you can still fly it and glide to a hopefully safe landing site
Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 29 2024 19:21 utc | 159
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How many dead stick landings have you done?
Posted by: too scents | Aug 29 2024 19:24 utc | 161
It may not be easy but it is possible. A Canadian flight crew landed a Boeing 767 in 1983 after both mentioned quit.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 30 2024 4:04 utc | 259

I mean after both engines quit. They ran out of fuel.

Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 30 2024 4:05 utc | 261

gyrocopter glide nicely
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 29 2024 23:42 utc | 230
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Have you ever seen a maple seed?

Posted by: too scents | Aug 30 2024 5:41 utc | 263

📋🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Two Majors #Summary for the Morning of 30 August 2024; 06:56 (GMT+3)📍
🎯 The RFAF, during the night, carried out strikes by Geranium UAVs, reported explosions in #KrivoyRog, #Sumy, #Poltava, and #Vinnitsa regio
🛡The governor of #Bryansk region reported the destruction of 11 enemy UAVs over the region. Also, four drones were destroyed by air defence on the outskirts of Kaluga, the governor said.
🔹In the #Kursk region, fierce fighting broke out in the north of Sudzhansky district. The AFU attacked our positions near the settlements of #Kamyshevka and #Kireyevka. In the south of Sudzhansky district, the RFAF are hitting the enemy with artillery and attack UAVs near the villages of #CherkasskayaKonopelka, #Plekhovo and #Borki. In the direction of #Korenevo, the enemy is regrouping. Several enemy assault groups were destroyed near #Borki and #Martynovka. In the morning heavy fighting flared up with renewed vigour.
🔹In the #Kupyansk direction, the enemy recognises our advance to a depth of up to 700 metres in the central part of #Sinkovka, where the RFAF have 👉 planted a flag. The fighting for the settlement has been going on for several months. There are also reports of advances in the area of #Peschanoye and #Tabayevka. The liberation of #Stelmakhovka has been confirmed. The Russian Defence Minister congratulated the command and personnel of the 423rd Guards, Order of Suvorov 2nd class and Order of Kutuzov 2nd class, Yampolsky Motor Rifle Regiment on the liberation of the village of #Stelmakhovka in the #LPR from the enemy.
🔹In the #Toretsk (#Dzerzhinsk) agglomeration, the village of #Druzhba is almost liberated, and there is fighting on the outskirts of #Toretsk. East of #Panteleymonovka, Russian troops have advanced along forest belts to a depth of up to 500 metres.
🔹In the #Pokrovsk direction, , the RFAF are developing success. It is reported about the collapse of the AFU defence in #Karlovka. Footage of our flag is coming from the #Grodovka area. In the area of #Ukrainsk our offensive is also developing. They report the work of our advanced units near Mirnograd. At #Karlovka and the reservoir of the same name,🗺👇the enemy has long held back our offensive, pulling reserves. But the collapse of the front to the north forced the enemy to flee to #Galitsinovka, where it is unlikely that the AFU will be able to gain a foothold for long.
💥In the #Belgorod region, in Rakityansky district near the village of #IlyokKoshary a drone attacked a combine harvester, a man was wounded. In #Shebekino yesterday morning a civilian was killed, two others were wounded. During the day under the strikes were Belgorod, Borisovsky, Krasnoyaruzhsky, Volokonovsky districts.
💥In the #DPR, a woman born in 1958 and a man born in 1955 were injured in Gorlovka during enemy shelling from barrel artillery, a woman born in 1950 and a man born in 1950 were wounded, and a man born in 1955 was also injured.

https://t.me/two_majors/30649

Posted by: Down South | Aug 30 2024 6:39 utc | 265

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Oleksandrivka-Kalynove direction: Advance of the Russian Armed Forces and liberation of most of Druzhba
Situation as of the end of August 29, 2024
Against the backdrop of the success of the Russian troops in the Pokrovsk direction, the situation in the Dzerzhynsk agglomeration was somewhat overshadowed, but here too there is a significant advance of the Russian Armed Forces.
▪️The majority of Druzhba, based on footage from objective control, has been liberated. Assault groups are operating on the northwestern outskirts of the settlement. Given the source of the footage, the settlement may actually have been completely liberated already. East of the village, at least part of the forest belts on both sides of the Siversky Donets – Donbas canal have also been cleared.
▪️In Kirovo (Pivnichne), there are battles, and the majority of the settlement has also come under the control of the Russian troops. The presence of the enemy remains on the northwestern outskirts north of the cemetery. However, given the ongoing clashes, it is most likely that the Ukrainian formations will try to cling to and hold as long as possible the Dachne area located to the west.
▪️On the eastern outskirts of Dzerzhynsk (Toretsk), the advance groups of assault troops were able to occupy the intersection of Tereshkova Street and 91st Division some time ago. Battles are underway for the territory of the Central Hospital and the garages to the south. One of the difficult defense nodes of the enemy may be the Toretsk Correctional Colony No. 2, but only if the operational crisis does not worsen.
The situation in the quarters on the southern outskirts, in the area of Gaidara Street, remains shrouded in the fog of war. The Russian troops attempted an attack through the territory of the previously occupied psychiatric hospital, but how successful it was is still unclear.
▪️A similar situation exists in the area of Nelepovka and north of Novhorodske (New York). There is no information about new attacks by the Russian Armed Forces or counterattacks by the AFU, but this does not directly indicate a lull.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17344

Posted by: Down South | Aug 30 2024 6:45 utc | 267

Moscow: Russia’s state statistics service Rosstat said on Wednesday it was suspending publication of oil products output data, citing a government decision. The agency will no longer provide monthly output data for diesel, fuel oil, propane and butane, coke and semi-coke of coal, or stable gas condensate.”
Does anyone have some insight on how much damage has been done?
Maybe clue? -> Posted by: c1ue | Aug 19 2024 23:59 utc | 137
Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 29 2024 10:27 utc | 13
Telling too much about the important things too easily has to stop?

Posted by: jpc | Aug 30 2024 7:32 utc | 269

“So, tell us Pete, did your gyrocopter glide nicely when run out of fuel? Lol.
Gotta watch those absolutist statements, old fella!”
Yes is does. That is exactly what it does, and a bit of studying could have told you that.

Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 30 2024 7:53 utc | 271

Is it that Putin doesn’t have the will to send a large army to regain control of Kursk or that they don’t have enough men to spare? It seems they have only several smaller units who are mainly defending against the Ukrainian forces gaining more ground.
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 30 2024 3:13 utc | 254
I believe it’s part of the escalation game. I would expect threats have been made to him by the Americans over what might happen if they are completely ejected.
People think this Kursk incursion will be over within a month or 2 . I don’t. They’ll still be encamped 12 months from now, that is unless an even greater escalation occurs elsewhere in which case all bets are off.
The authorities are already prepping for the long haul.
‘A group of Russian armed volunteers is being set up in Kursk to “ensure security”.
Kursk is the scene of a nearly four-week long incursion into Russia by Ukraine. Thousands of Russian civilians have fled border areas because of the assault.
Kursk governor, Alexy Smirnov said on Telegram that the new detachments would be tasked with “not only ensuring security, but also participating in life support in resettled areas in order to support the remaining people in this difficult time.”
His post said the contract for participation would be for six months and had a phone number for those interested in enlisting’

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 30 2024 8:04 utc | 273

Another fairly good video of an iskander strike. Although the actual point of contact cannot be seen, rather than airburst fusing, this one has contact or slightly delayed fusing.
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1829224459766776276/video/1

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 30 2024 8:21 utc | 275

Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 30 2024 7:53 utc | 271
I guess technically it moves under autorotation of the rotor (throughout in fact, as the rotor isnt powered)… even helicopters whose rotors are powered are designed to descent under autorotation fairly safely in case of simple engine failures. Correct?

Posted by: Turdworld | Aug 30 2024 8:46 utc | 277

As A Brit, I take great exception to all the nasty remarks in this forum about ‘Perfidious Albion’ etc etc.
Let’s pause for a moment, and consider what the UK has done for Russia during the the SMO.
1. We’ve destroyed an entire brigade of Ukrainian crack marine soldiers in Krinki with our hare-brained amphibious assault scheme.
2. We’ve sent our top of the range undestroyable Challenger tanks into battle in the Steppes. Oops. They burn there just like all the other tanks.
3. We masterminded the Kursk offensive – take up to 30,000 of Ukraine’s best trained and best equipped brigades from the front line, and arrange them in a neat fire pocket in the hills and valleys of Kursk. This created long and undefndable supply lines suitable for interdiction, and in our fire pocket, Russia can conveniently destroy us.
4. Attack the Russian Navy with drone boats, and sink a couple of their smaller ships. Okay, that one was a success, but put that down to the Russian Navy’s supreme incompetence. Drones and attack boats have been used for years by Iran, Somalia and now the Houtis.
Nothing new here, but I assume the Russians admirals have been sacked / removed for this.
5. Supply Storm Shadows, but with a slow build-up, so now Russian radars have their signature, and even large salvos of such missiles can be intercepted with ease.
6. Supply up to £10 billion in military equipment, now all gone and we have no money to replace them. The UK army is now a half dozen pick up trucks with machine guns bolted onto the roof.
I am sure our elite military are cooking up half a dozen more hare-brained schemes which will create an initial flurry in Western media and f*ck Ukrainian military resources another six ways to Sunday.
You should not curse our military brains, you should salute us! Remember the Charge of the Light Brigade in the Crimean War. We want to re-enact that again and again…

Posted by: scepticalSOB | Aug 30 2024 8:59 utc | 279

Mario @ 274

Most if not all western analysts forecast that the kursk buldge could be maintained at most till the end of year.

Muddy soon, incursion is mostly wheeled like Strykers for speed and maneuverability, AFU has been relying heavily on civilian vehicles stolen or leased with GM Financial (that’s a joke). With the rains they’ll have to stay on the roads, what’s the Chechen term for turkey shoot? Winter in the forests will be a bitch without properly constructed shelters with stoves and fuel, ever try digging in the woods? Roots and rocks, roots and rocks.
Sheltering in the farm houses will get you, in the words of Big Jim McBob and Billy Sol Hurok, “blowed up real good”. Story the three pigs and big bad wolf, no reinforced concrete apartment blocks to run back and forth from, just wooden houses that’ll get blown away on the first artillery hit, and good luck lighting the wood stove or the fireplace in those houses without getting spotted.
Make a list column A and column B, reasons to stay, reasons to go, A will be real short, B real long. Smart move is get out while the getting’s good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wf4exIiQr8

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 30 2024 9:08 utc | 281

Iskander taking out German Cobra counter-battery radar, Uragan and Grad MLRS launchers in Sumy region.
https://southfront.press/russian-missiles-hit-german-radar-soviet-rocket-launchers-in-ukraine/

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 30 2024 9:15 utc | 283

By the way what value has a farmland and forestry area for Ukraine?
Once the civil population has been evacuated the Ukrainians are given the choice to start cultivating the land while possibly being bombed once or twice a day.
Posted by: Mario | Aug 30 2024 8:20 utc | 274
Exactly my point – it has no value, beyond enabling its primary purpose – a NATO led escalation which states ‘we are on your land, and we will not be removed – or else – and in the meantime we are considering our next escalation.’
I think Light Years From Home suggested now that an incursion has been made into Kursk, we could see potential Ukrainian moves as far away as Vladivostok. I think that is too much effort, but in theory it could happen as the line has been crossed.
More likely agressive moves to hit airfields at Moscow or St Petersburg are on the menu next. I believe they have worked out Putin’s weaknesses, which is a desire to maintain the military status quo. They have decided to escalate rather than play the game the Russians want – which is attritional warfare.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 30 2024 9:17 utc | 285

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 30 2024 9:17 utc | 285
The point is making significant actions not to test anything.
Hit a refinery or a fuel storage, that has a meaning.
Hit an airport, that has a meaning, expecially if you hit something related with actual RF army aka hitting an airbase in Siberia would not be meaningful.
Remember, testing will work until it simply will fail.

Posted by: Mario | Aug 30 2024 9:26 utc | 287

Posted by: too scents | Aug 30 2024 5:41 utc | 263
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3CqqsnoA78

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 30 2024 9:43 utc | 289

Night Tripper | Aug 30 2024 9:17 utc | 285
Without the Americans,the Brits can now only run optical warfare. The Russians are watching the Americans to see which way they go.
Another thing I consider at times is that Russia chose the time and the place. The Ukraine bear trap became the Nato trap.
Ukraine is the field of battle. We saw the mother of all proxy armies destroyed there. Then the next army then the next.
All now Nato ex soviet weaponry destroyed alongside the inertial armies of cannon fodder and progressive installments of western inferior weaponry moved in, now Kursk – virtually all nato equipment being destroyed.
On one side, I would like to see the war in former Ukraine end, but that only means war with/against China.
US power is dying on the battlefield of Ukraine so perhaps better to hold it there until the death spasms of the empire of lies has turned to rigor mortis.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 30 2024 10:03 utc | 291

From Kim Dotcom on X:
We reached the final step on the escalation ladder. The Pentagon gave Ukraine permission to strike targets deep inside of Russia with ATACMS missiles. They can only be operated with US satellite targeting assistance.
“Washington is now a direct party to the war” Moscow says.
I guess that was just a matter of time, but cant find any sources confirming this yet.

Posted by: calixtus | Aug 30 2024 10:21 utc | 293

Assessment of the situation by the enemy. Officer of the terrorist “Azov” Roman Ponomarenko:
▪️”The Ukrainian front in Donbass has collapsed and the situation there has already gotten out of control”
▪️“For a long time, the situation in Donbas was quite appropriately characterized as difficult, but controllable. However, now it has gotten out of control. So far, it looks like our front in Donbas has collapsed . The defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is disorganized , the troops are tired , weakened , and many units are demoralized . The reinforcements received are mostly on a temporary basis , and do not help, but on the contrary, complicate the combat work of the units. The Russians are not breaking through deeply only because their troops are as exhausted as ours. However, they retain a significant quantitative advantage and have unlimited supplies of ammunition . Therefore, their offensive continues, we cannot stop it yet”
▪️“The situation is currently on the brink, and the forced mobilization of troops only makes it worse”
▪️The Nazi doubts that “our command has some kind of global plan for all of this.”
▪️”Yes, counterattacks on other sections of the front may have results. However, they only make sense if the front in Donbas holds. There are also widespread hopes that the Russians have put everything they have into this offensive, and as a result, they will run out of reserves. However, we have been hearing about this for 2 years now, but those reserves are still not running out”
▪️At the same time, an officer of the terrorist “Azov” suggests adopting some of the experience of Hitler’s “Wehrmacht” , how it stabilized the front after major defeats (for example, after Operation Bagration in 1944). At the same time, he admits that these decisions “only give a short-term effect and only delay the overall defeat.”
✨ We heard similar whining from Zelensky, and then Kursk region happened. The khokhol just opens his mouth – and already lies. We need to finish them off, and underestimating the enemy systematically turns into tragedy.

https://t.me/two_majors/30660

Our source in the General Staff said that Syrsky again tried to transfer the third assault brigade of the Azov to Pokrovsk, but so far his order is being simply ignored by the most armed and equipped brigade.
The commander-in-chief is losing control over the commanders, since many on the Eastern Front consider the Kursk operation a betrayal and a deliberate drain of reserves for the enemy in open terrain.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/24164

Posted by: Down South | Aug 30 2024 10:38 utc | 295

❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk direction: Counterattacks in Korenevo district, AFU attacks in the Kamyshevka – Kireevka sector
Fierce battles continue in the Kursk Region. Ukrainian formations are building up reserves and continuing attacks in several sectors. At the same time, the concentration of enemy forces remains high, even taking into account the active work of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
🔻In the Glushkovo District, the situation remains difficult. The information that appeared yesterday about the isolation of Tetkinо by destroying bridges has not yet been confirmed and is likely disinformation. Ukrainian formations are conducting reconnaissance and striking Russian Armed Forces positions and crossings.
🔻In the Korenevo District, fighting continues in the vicinity of the administrative center, the enemy does not stop attempts to advance with both infantry and armor groups. To the south, there are battles in the triangle Korenevo – Krasnooctyabr’skoye – Snagost’.
🔻In the Sudzha District, clashes also continue. In the Kamyshevka – Kireevka sector, Russian troops repelled an attack by an AFU armored group. Another small infantry group was dispersed by artillery fire while advancing from the direction of Nechaevo, where the enemy has entrenched in the forest southwest of the settlement. The village itself was previously liberated by the Russian Armed Forces.
To the south, in the areas of the settlements of Borki, Plekhovo and Cherkasska Konopelka, the Russian Armed Forces are searching for and destroying the invading forces. However, there have been no reports of the liberation of settlements at the moment.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17355

Posted by: Down South | Aug 30 2024 10:40 utc | 297

“scepticalSOB @ 279
As A Brit, I take great exception to all the nasty remarks in this forum about ‘Perfidious Albion’ etc etc.
It is unfair, USA is just as perfidious, just ask the native Americans. Like father, like son.”
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 30 2024 9:15 utc | 284
The City of London controls the Empire so, indeed, Perfidious Albion is an apt description in my opinion

Posted by: canuck | Aug 30 2024 10:42 utc | 299