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August 25, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-203
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Strikes by the Russian Armed Forces on targets on the territory of the so-called Ukraine on August 26 – what is known by 10:30
Early this morning, Russian troops carried out a series of massive strikes on various targets across almost the entire territory of the so-called Ukraine. The targets of the raid included energy infrastructure facilities and air defense positions.
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Moreover, such massive strikes should be systematic: the long-term disabling of energy infrastructure will significantly complicate the enemy’s logistics, as well as the repair of equipment and the operation of industry.So why wasn’t this massive, debilitating airstrike followed by a massive westward invasion to take Kiev and end the damn war?
Shameful how after 2.5 years the Russian Federation cannot decisively defeat a smaller, weaker opponent right on its doorstep (and don’t start with, “But NATO gave Ukraine weapons!!)
Posted by: ReinhardVonSiegfried | Aug 26 2024 17:09 utc | 301
anon@1234
It is not inconceivable that the R.U. government was thinking ahead of the box regarding those hard to replace transformers. Once the coup regime utterly collapses, perhaps even within this 2024 year; it is quite possible that Russia still possesses some of those old Soviet transformers now being degraded in the former Ukraine SSR. There is no other possible source for replacements.
Brotherly Slavic nations? Possible, once the explosions cease.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 15:35 utc | 281
Possess old OR NEW ones, did you read my 239? Maybe RF started producing then but only destroyed those in ukraine now that they have fresh stock (can’t use all as if push comes to shove EMP blasts are a certainty and RF might have to replace a lot of stuff)
Now, not as a reply to you, seems plenty of trolls are trying to get re-hired , showing their bravery in a light brigade charge. Won’t name them, easy enough to see their colors flying like a rainbow flag 😀
As for the classic history club, not trollish as such, mainly misguided, maybe adjourn to the open topic thread? Just maybe?
Now for more interesting stuff, the Nechaev seems a bit too long (or maybe running away eastward) the rest seems as expected. Low tank and mech vehicles for the number of casualties.
The Ukrainian armed forces have lost more than 400 servicemen and 27 armored vehicles in the Kursk direction over the day, the Russian Defense Ministry reported.
In total, the enemy has lost more than 6,200 troops since fighting broke out in the region.
The Russian military has repelled attacks by Ukrainian assault groups near Kremyanoye, Malaya Loknya and Nechaev.
TASS has gathered the latest information about the situation.
The operation to destroy Ukrainian formations
– The Northern battlegroup, backed by army aviation and artillery fire, repelled attacks by Ukrainian assault groups in the direction of Kremyanoye, Malaya Loknya and Nechaev, and foiled attacks near Komarovka, Spalnoye, Korenevo, Pogrebki and Olgovka.
– Air strikes, artillery fire and military operations defeated concentrations of enemy personnel and equipment near Apanasovka, Borki, Vishnevka, Viktorovka, Tenth October, Kruglenkoye, Loknya, Mikhailovka, Novaya Sorochina, Plekhovo, Snagost and Yuzhny.
– Russian aircraft hit Ukrainian personnel and military equipment deployment sites in 16 settlements of the Sumy Region.
– The operation to destroy Ukrainian formations continues.
Ukraine’s losses
– Over the day, the Ukrainian armed forces lost over 400 servicemen and 27 armored vehicles, including a tank, two infantry fighting vehicles, three armored personnel carriers and 21 armored combat vehicles, as well as five artillery pieces, two mortars, 11 vehicles and a US-made AN/TPQ-50 counter mortar radar.
– Since fighting began in Kursk, the enemy’s overall losses amount to more than 6,200 servicemen, 73 tanks, 33 infantry fighting vehicles, 61 armored personnel carriers, 404 armored combat vehicles, 188 vehicles, 42 artillery pieces, five anti-aircraft missile system launchers, 11 multiple rocket launchers, including three HIMARS and one MLRS, nine electronic warfare stations, two counter-battery radars, an air defense radar, five pieces of engineering equipment, including two engineering demolition vehicles and one UR-77 demining unit.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 17:17 utc | 302
❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 On the Possible Plans of the AFU in the Kherson Direction
Continuing the topic of a possible offensive by Ukrainian formations in the south of the country, the focus of the enemy’s command is not only on Zaporizhia, but also on the Kherson direction – it is there that the AFU have been nurturing plans for a new amphibious operation for a long time.
At the same time, in contrast to the previous plans – the establishment and retention of a bridgehead in the same Krynky – the new plan of the Ukrainian leadership is much more daring, albeit frankly suicidal. Nevertheless, the AFU, against the background of general failures on other parts of the front, are ready to take risks, regardless of losses.
▪️As in the neighboring Zaporizhia direction, the satellite reconnaissance assets are actively working in the interests of the AFU, photographing the positions of air defense, potential headquarters locations, and possible landing sites for both boat and helicopter landings.
▪️At the same time, in Odesa, personnel and USVs are being accumulated for the future operation. Only in open sources, hundreds of unmanned boats and UAVs are mentioned, in reality their number may approach a thousand (it is worth considering that there have been no massive strikes with USVs for a long time, so the AFU have certainly been able to accumulate them).
▪️The enemy is considering the possibility of a combined attack with drones and USVs on Crimea, as well as on objects on the Tendra and Kinburn spits. According to the plan, this will be followed by a boat landing in several places with a subsequent attempt to expand the zone of control.
▪️Another stage of the plan is the landing of several recon groups in the area of large settlements in the south of the region with the aim of attacking headquarters to generally disorganize control. One of such areas may be the line Zhelezny Port – Lazurne – Skadovsk (if you assess the security of the coastline as a whole, then this option certainly cannot be ruled out).
▪️As for the island zone of the Dnieper, the repetition of the AFU operations similar to Krynky and Kozachi Lahery is unlikely – according to the incoming information, the Russian military confidently hold a significant part of the islands, while the Ukrainian command is preparing for an offensive on the spits.
🔻At the same time, the probable losses do not particularly worry the leadership of the so-called Ukraine. Moreover, even a few hundred members of Ukrainian formations will be enough to “make a mess” until the blockade.
And given the problems of the local grouping of the Russian Armed Forces and in case the operation is combined with the start of an offensive in the Zaporizhia region, the situation may become even more threatening. This is exactly what the Ukrainian command is betting on.
At the same time, the fact that the enemy’s plans are being discussed almost in every smoking room in southern Russia, a deliberate disinformation about the preparation for the offensive is quite possible. Everyone is on high alert, a heightened danger mode for a certain number of days, and in the end, nothing will happen. But when everyone relaxes, the plan can be put into practice.
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17269
Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2024 17:20 utc | 303
❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk Direction: Fighting in Korenevo and Sudzha Districts, New Attempts of AFU Offensive
Battles continue in the Kursk Region, with Ukrainian formations not stopping their attacks and simultaneously deploying reinforcements to the region.
🔻In Glushkovo District, the situation remains tense, with Ukrainian formations continuing to strike military and civilian vehicles with UAVs. At the same time, no attempts to violate the state border have been recorded so far.
🔻In Korenevo District, fighting continues in the area of Komarovka, and according to the statements of the Russian Ministry of Defense, strikes were delivered on the positions of the AFU in the area of the neighboring settlements of Vishnevka, Snagost and Apanasovka.
▪️Given the reports of new attempts by Ukrainian formations to attack Komarovka and Krasnooctyabr’skoye, the settlements to the east are under the firm control of the AFU. A similar situation is developing in the area of Viktorovka. In addition, there is information about the presence of the enemy in Byakhovo and Vnezapnoye, but so far there is no confirmation of this.
▪️In the area of Korenevo itself and in the neighboring area of Ol’govka-Kremyanoye, there are battles, the enemy is trying to advance in small groups. According to incoming information, Ukrainian formations recently established control over Matveyevka. At the same time, the situation in the area of Zhuravli and to the north remains unclear, previously at least enemy reconnaissance groups were spotted there, and there were no reports of clearing.
🔻In Sudzha District, Ukrainian formations also tried to attack in the area of Malaya Loknya and Pogrebki, but without much success. At the same time, according to the Ministry of Defense, strikes were delivered on the positions of the AFU in the area of Novaya Sorochina and Kruglenoye.
▪️Another attack was thwarted in the area of Nechayevo in Bolshesoldatskoye District, where the enemy maintains a presence southwest of the settlement and has entrenched itself in the nearby forest. In addition, the media reported the liberation of the settlement of Nizhnyaya Parovaya, but no one had previously reported the capture of the village by the enemy.
In addition, based on objective control footage, another enemy armored group was subjected to several strikes east of Malaya Loknya.
▪️Also, some clarity has emerged about Cherkasskoye Porechnoye, in the area of which several attacks have been repelled earlier. Based on the footage that appeared on the network, the settlement is currently under the control of the enemy. At the same time, strikes by UAVs and artillery are being delivered on the AFU infantry.
▪️In Borki and Spal’noye, battles are also ongoing. Despite the continuing attempts of attacks by the AFU, no advances have been recorded here, but there are also no reports of the liberation of settlements.
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17268
Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2024 17:21 utc | 304
According to several of our sources, the Kremlin has decided on an asymmetric response to the Ukrainian Armed Forces’ invasion of the Kursk region. The General Staff is transferring all reserves of the Russian army to the Pokrovsk direction in order to collapse the eastern front and force Ukraine to withdraw troops from the Kursk region, under the threat of encirclement of Ukrainian Armed Forces groups in three directions.
The Kremlin has set the task of taking Pokrovsk as quickly as possible and starting operations to encircle the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Ugledar, which will force Kyiv to react and transfer reserves to Donbass or lose this entire region in the fall.
Putin is once again demonstrating a non-linear response to Zelensky’s provocation and escalation, implementing the gambit strategy. Due to which he will achieve victory in Donbass.
https://t.me/Taynaya_kantselyariya/10943
Putin skillfully turns Zelensky’s Kursk adventure into a tripwire for Ukraine. An insider Russian Telegram channel writes about the Kremlin’s gambit in the Kursk region to win Donbass, and the Office of the President, which is now unable to withdraw troops from Kursk and has no forces to defend the Ukrainian Donbass, fell into this trap.
While the attention of the entire international community is focused on our invasion of Russian territories, the Russians have managed to make significant progress in the Donbass. Toretsk is under direct threat of falling. A similar prospect for Pokrovsk lies ahead.
Military analysts believe that Pokrovsk will fall during the fall. In parallel, the Russians will try to take Ugledar, Chasov Yar, and advance towards Kupyansk. So it is not known where else the front will begin to crumble.
The calculation of the Russian Armed Forces is simple: the more forces Ukraine sends to the Kursk region, the higher the chances of Moscow’s success in the Donbass. Instead of holding a defense there, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are forced to participate in an operation whose outcome is predetermined and spend their best reserves on holding meaningless territories.
Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2024 17:23 utc | 305
Thanks, @305
It’s pretty clear now after 3 weeks, that Zelensky/NAFO screwed the pooch again. The biggest problem is that the terrain in the area of Kursk that these mappers designate as under their “control” is not defensible. THere is no geographic feature, nor pre-built fortifications that can be stormed and used against the enemy, unlike the Donbas which was well-fortified by NAZO for years and years.
So the cokehead will have to keep pouring more men and material into the Kursk area just to hold what they’ve already taken. Meanwhile, in the Donbas, cities and towns taken by Russia have fortifications and urban strongholds that can be used by Russia to defend against local counterattacks from the retreating UAF.
The passage of time has revealed that Kursk as a diversion is likely a red herring. More likely it is a goal in and in of itself that is falling apart.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 17:38 utc | 306
“As for Julius he crossed the Rubicon, whilst Zelensky crossed the Russian border, will the comedian suffer a similar fate as the self-proclaimed dictator, or flee with his ill gotten gains?”
Posted by: Milites | Aug 26 2024 15:22 utc | 277
But Julius was for the People not the aristocracy-that was why he was murdered. Julius was the last iteration of the Gracchi
Zelensky is Hitler on a much smaller scale and without the cunning.
Sorry buddy, you are on the wrong page, wring note [pitiable descriptors, editor] on this subject.
Why does everyone, slag off young people…you know know – the young teenagers..
The kids headlining our local little festival, in our local park sound really good
I can hear them crystal clear from my back garden
Yes, they are loud, but also really good.
They all do it for free…They volunteer…not just the bands, but also, all the support people…to encourage the kids…
Yes you can do it in front of 20,000 people
You are headlining…
Get up on stage and sing and play
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 26 2024 17:45 utc | 308
Membrum Virile | Aug 26 2024 10:56 utc | 193
*** Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 9:06 utc | 166
“we are dealing with rabid, fanatical Nazis. they could not care less if people are cold.”
Harsh, but accurate assessment of the invaders of Ukraine.***
Harsh?
No — it is much, much too polite about the NATO Khazarian / Talmudic invaders, their global corporate looting agencies and their more locally sourced servants.
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 26 2024 17:48 utc | 309
>Shameful how after 2.5 years the Russian Federation cannot decisively defeat a smaller, weaker opponent right on its doorstep
Worth posting this again, since I haven’t posted in a while: final victory means a victory over hearts and minds. 99% of Ukrainians capable of engaging in terrorism must be totally convinced of the futility of such action in order for there to be lasting peace. Fanatics whose hearts and minds cannot be won must be exterminated, as in happening in Kursk right now. Remaining terrorist capable Ukrainians must have their spirit of resistance broken, and that is a slow grinding process. This is why I predict final peace in 2030.
Sure, there can be big breakthroughs and regime change in Ukraine as early as this autumn of 2024, but there are still at least a million terrorist capable Ukrainians who will refuse any agreement that makes all of Ukraine except Galicia and Transcarpathia a permanent military dependency of Russia, which is what is required to bring lasting peace. So even if Ukraine collapses back to the Dniper in spring 2025, that huge number of Ukrainians will be a source of potential trouble. So Russia will have to either cross the Dniper or descend south from Belarus, both of which attacks will take at least all of 2025 because NATO will surely be more deeply involved once Russia breaks through to the east bank of the Dniper. So 2026 at the earliest to push NATO back to Galicia, and then several more years skirmishing at border of Galicia and Russian held Ukraine (and border of Moldova and Pridniestria) until NATO relents and new border established. I estimate 2030 for this final peace treaty.
After this, EU will almost certainly pump huge amounts of money into Galicia to demonstrate how great EU is compared to Russia. So then Russia has to let remainder of Ukraine beg for EU membership and money for a few years, only to be repeatedly denied because Ukraine has failed to pay back EU debts. This will eventually lead to breakup of Ukraine as some regions declare autonomy, repudiate debts, confiscate foreign assets, make free trade deal with Russia, and get cheap Russian gas and investment in exchange. Then other regions do the same thing. And then maybe by 2035, all of Ukraine ex Galicia and Transcarpathia are reconciled with Russia.
Those hoping for quick resolution or think military victory means final victory are going to be very disappointed at how long things take.
Note that breakup of Ukraine could occur sooner than 2030, and indeed I predict this, but that won’t substantially speed up final peace with NATO, nor will it speed up final reconciliation of Kyiv region with Russia. Only many years of repeated rejection by EU, after peace with NATO, will cause Kyiv and western Ukraine (ex Galicia, which will get accelerated EU membership or merge with Poland) to give up hope of eventual EU membership and turn instead to Russia.
Posted by: anonposter | Aug 26 2024 17:48 utc | 310
Posted by: anonposter | Aug 26 2024 17:48 utc | 310
good post again, in order to deal with this more effetcvely we need either Putin to ‘wake up’ or for him to be replaced by a more efficient who can see through BRICs duplicity AND take the required actions to deal with Ukraine.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 17:57 utc | 311
Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 13:13 utc | 246
***.. and move ME refugees out of their countries and into a rump “Ukraine.”***
Not the Palestinians (remnants of which would be scattered into tame “Arab” countries) … the idea will be for a “New Israel” as declared by Zelensky — a land ‘owned’ by Blackrock and similar Jewish controlled Western finance corporate entities and inhabited by (at the top) kabbalistic Khazar types and (at the bottom) imported, effectively slave, labour from multiple sources.
(funding would of course also come from stolen, formerly Palestinian, oil and gas reserves)
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 26 2024 18:12 utc | 312
In general, jokes aside, Telegram is the only international social network where the Russian Federation is represented.
Few people know, but if you install Telegram on Android not from Google Play, but by downloading the apk from the Telegram website, then there are no restrictions on content in such Telegram at all. You can read all channels of any country.
Plus, a built-in translator.
No Zen Telegram can replace it.
And also, few people know that the third day, the Kyrgyz MBANK disconnected from the SBP. The Pyandoses pushed through. Next will be Tajikistan, there are 18 banks accepting money via the SBP now. And Uzbekistan: 28 banks are connected to the SBP.
This does not mean that we will lose the mechanisms for bypassing sanctions, but bypassing will become more expensive.
And most importantly, we see that nothing has stopped and methodical quiet work, which is quite in the style of the Americans, is being carried out against us continuously.
And Pasha is one of the cogs in the overall picture, both in actions against us and against other countries that do not think democratically enough.
Of course, they will twist his balls now on the topic of “give me the coordinates of Flash’s house.” And what they will agree on there, we do not know.
Under threat – deanonymization of persons and opening of correspondence, IP addresses of authors of posts (Telegram writes logs with this data), censorship of content, etc.
From the trump cards: Pavel is from the embassy family. This is, in some way, an international clan, I had the pleasure of encountering (in Colombia, in a difficult situation, the British suddenly helped out).
We stock up on popcorn and wait for the outcome.
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 26 2024 18:17 utc | 313
The music has finished, what happens now, is that everyone cleans up our Beautiful Park…We pick up all our rubbish and everyone elses….put it in to bin bags and take it home.
The people selling their flowers, art and home made honey are smiling.
The people who supplied the toilets (well they may have got paid – but its a shit job) are removing them..
The solar lights worked well today
Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 26 2024 18:20 utc | 314
aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 15:25 utc | 280
*** The proper reiterated Pale of Settlement should be limited strictly to Galicia and some surrounding districts in other oblasts. That zone would become a quarantined political entity…as neither the fascistic Banderites nor the Talmudist refugees are capable of getting along with others. ***
But they’d escape. The liberal types in Europe would ensure that. Then their conspiring and corruption would just start again. Better to shunt such crap to Florida, in a country that’s already so rotten they couldn’t make it much worse.
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 26 2024 18:29 utc | 315
anonposter@1748
Perhaps you are a bit confused about how the Russians may open negotiations with those several Oblasts near Kiev which are best described as those who speak a Ukrainian dialect of Russian. Those negotiations would result in the founding of a NovoUkrainia, with essentially full independence, while recognizing their role as Brother Slavic Nations as per those of Belorossia…Belarus.
Moscow will offer those Slovakian, Hungarian and Romanian nations to reincorporate their ethnic brothers in the Transcarpathian region. Proviso would be their withdrawal from NATO and the EU, along with being able to access oil and natural gas from the R.U.
Galicia and a few surrounding regions, long Westernized and even Romanized, religiously; would become a quarantined state with very careful and assiduous border controls, along with protected disarmament. The Pale of Settlement would specifically focus on that Quarantined Entity to invite in former Pale of Settlement Ashkenazi refugees from the re-Palestined currently occulted lands of their fathers. Most Talmudists, but not necessarily most Jews, would not be comfortable citizens in a Palestinian state.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 19:01 utc | 316
Cynic@1849
Of course you need to live up to your screen-name.
Those Talmudists with dual citizenship would go back to Florida, or Brooklyn. However, they are. a minority in the Talmudist statelet. “Quarantined”‘ would be ascertained by military means. No escape to “liberal” Europe…or anywhere else would be allowed by a consortium consisting of Belarus, Slovakia, Hungary, Russia AND Poland.
As for the latter, that Polish man who brought a fire-extinguisher to dampen the Menorah was recently elected to be a Polish representative to the E.U. Council. Poland becoming a co-insurer for the Quarantine would be more probable than not.
A Quarantine, is a quarantine, is a quarantine. Don’t you just Lvov that idea?
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 19:09 utc | 317
Alex Christoforou
Missiles rock Ukraine, air defense diverted to Kursk, lights out. Durov tried to stop plane landing
A great ~30 minute report from this Monday Morning
https://youtu.be/Tn6FPPH6Z68?si=XVl03j_zaJsMBo1d
Posted by: Toby C | Aug 26 2024 19:17 utc | 318
Not a huge site but sometimes they talk about things seldom seen outside of the half a dozen sites we read.
“Since the initiation of a Ukrainian-led assault on the Russian Kursk region on August 6, which has seen an estimated 15,000 personnel penetrate unprecedentedly deep into Russian territory, a growing number of details have emerged regarding the roles of personnel from NATO member states in supporting the operation. Western advisors, logisticians, combatants, and other personnel operating a range of complex newly delivered hardware have played a central and growing role in the war effort since early 2022, ranging from British Royal Marines deployed for frontline combat operations from April 2022 at the latest, to SAS advisors who have reportedly played a significant role in supporting armoured offensives against Russian positions. With many of Ukraine’s most elite combat units and much of its top end military equipment having been committed to the assault on Kursk, the deployment of Western personnel to support the assault, likely including both contractors and active servicemembers, has been in line with broader trends seen throughout the war. ”
https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/contractors-kursk-polish-french-details
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 19:48 utc | 319
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 17:38 utc | 306
Yes, and the situation you outline goes to how desperately the AFU is in need of lots of air defense. The Russian advantage in aviation will make the AFU’s lack of air defenses go from bad to worse. The less the AFU has, the closer in the Russian Federation forces can work, which leads to more of the remaining air defenses to become exposed and vulnerable. The AFU plan must have been to maintain the advantage while constantly advancing, thus enabling them to keep moving their air defenses, and so make it much harder to pinpoint their locations. If they succeeded in their pipe dream of taking structures like the nuclear power plant, the air defenses would have been safe, or safer. No way Russia would launch against air defenses located in proximity to a NPP.
Anyway, with Starlink out of the equation in Kursk, we’re seeing the AFU left a bit flat-footed in responding to the encroachment of RF drones, and as bad as they are, they now can precede attacks by FAB weaponry.
Great Caesar’s Ghost* maybe knows what the AFU plans are for dealing with the losses of armor they’ve been experiencing. It’s emboldening RF armor to move up closer and start in on AFU positions.
* https://i.postimg.cc/rmSkPC2P/Great-Caesar-s-Ghost.jpg
Posted by: Babel-17 | Aug 26 2024 21:29 utc | 320
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 12:59 utc | 244
A dispersal of the populaton seems reasonable but I doubt die-hard Nazis will turn tail and abandon their fatherland; honour to fight and die defending.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 21:29 utc | 321
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 26 2024 13:37 utc | 254
“humanitarian gesture…Western military.” Fuck both.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 21:40 utc | 322
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 13:51 utc | 257
Russia and China are fighting for, inter alia, economic independence (as far as possible), not hegemony or dominance beyond its borders.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 21:46 utc | 323
Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 14:11 utc | 260
You’re wrong.
God bless Russia and China.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 21:50 utc | 324
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 26 2024 14:41 utc | 266
And of what relevance is a “longer history of England” to its inhabitants? What does the Daily Express have to say on this?
God save the King.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 22:00 utc | 325
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 26 2024 15:13 utc | 272
Similarly, William I imposed “Norman” history on England.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 22:11 utc | 326
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 15:16 utc | 274
Whaat the fuck are you smoking?
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 22:13 utc | 327
“Since the initiation of a Ukrainian-led assault on the Russian Kursk region on August 6, which has seen an estimated 15,000 personnel penetrate unprecedentedly deep into Russian territory
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 19:48 utc | 319
Other estimates claim 25,000. It looks like it will take the Russians more than 6 months to get them out.
Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 26 2024 22:39 utc | 328
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 19:48 utc | 319
Other estimates claim 25,000. It looks like it will take the Russians more than 6 months to get them out.
Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 26 2024 22:39 utc | 328
I only posted for the sheep dipped mercs.
My own estimate was 30.000 (with a low limit on 24.000)
Not really, at the current rate it will collapse soon after AFU stops pumpimg more meat (or the cauldron is closed)
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 22:45 utc | 329
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 26 2024 14:37 utc | 265
Extremely well written post-thank you. Remember Clodius, another ‘populist’ was a Caesar ally.
Re China squeezing Russia to death, that sounds like US propaganda. The two countries have a common enemy in Americans eager to rule the world. Likewise Russia has raw materials that Chinese manufacturers would like to buy, such as petroleum.
There are a few irredentists in “Manchuria”, the Northeastern provinces, who might like to regain the seacoat of Manchuria, what is now Russia’s Far-East Maritime province. But that’s a rare view. Not many Chinese people really want to move to Siberia!
Posted by: lester | Aug 27 2024 1:06 utc | 331
I’m off now…
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 25 2024 1:41 utc | 848
“For a sex change operation? You only got hit with a bit of light artillery from the troll brigade. The docs will be dumbfounded that you have no balls for them to remove.”
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 25 2024 2:21 utc | 850
Dang, Peter, you are an MMA master of friendly fire! Way to go.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 1:28 utc | 332
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 15:16 utc | 274
“Whaat the fuck are you smoking?”
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 22:13 utc | 327
Probably northern Minnesota ditch weed for decades.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 1:32 utc | 333
What I don’t like about the Aussie big-man tough-guy posters is that they blame everything on “America” and they don’t take any responsibility for themselves being used as poodles and suck-ups. Pathetic.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 1:54 utc | 334
You people literally shit on your own brothers. There is no hope for such a confused mass of ideological individualists.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 2:15 utc | 335
Horsefarts and Wiscoholic…
Snarky remarks on a perfectly sane and compassionate posting I made regarding the fact that Ukrainians living in major cities, particularly in Kiev…need to get the hell outta Dodge ASAP. Without electricity, urban life is a virtual death-sentence. No juice, no water, no food, no heat.
Couple of movies which might be instructive: “Escape from New York (ca 1979/80) and Mad Max, one which most everyone has viewed. One or both of those scenarios may soon erupt in Ukraine. The handwriting is on the wall.
Are you two assholes so dense that you cannot comprehend what I posted? I’ll be watching for your postings on just about any damned thing from here on out. Evidently, your composite specific density is well beyond that of lead.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 2:48 utc | 336
I’ve been looking at this website a long time. Its kinda weird that the consensus here hates Simplicius, hates Mearsheimer, hates Jeffrey Sachs, hates MacGregor, hates Scott Ritter….
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 2:49 utc | 337
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 2:48 utc | 336
Oh please. Surely you smoke lots of locally grown weed in your Minnesota rural haven. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 2:55 utc | 338
“I’ve been looking at this website a long time. Its kinda weird that the consensus here hates Simplicius, hates Mearsheimer, hates Jeffrey Sachs, hates MacGregor, hates Scott Ritter….”
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 2:49 utc | 337
Oops. I meant to post that on the Martyanov site. But probably fits here also.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 2:56 utc | 339
@ Wisco | Aug 27 2024 2:56 utc | 339
i think you are wrong about that in your @337… but hey – what do i know? lolol…
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 3:02 utc | 340
i have a lot of respect for all those writers and people…
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 3:02 utc | 341
“i have a lot of respect for all those writers and people…”
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 3:02 utc | 341
Fair post. I see a lot more hate for those people on Martyanov’s site. It’s like they hate and denigrate anyone who says something not perfectly aligned with the Martyanov schtick.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 3:11 utc | 342
Also James, i read your John Helmer link that talked about Martyanov. He is a bit of a Russian exceptionalist and to me it seems like pot-kettle-black sometimes.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 3:17 utc | 343
What we will have here is an argument about Martyanov vs MoA. Individualist narcissists arguing that they are right and the other person is wrong. Just bashing the other guy on the head. Desrructive friendly fire.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 3:25 utc | 344
@ wisco
i don’t want to get caught up in the drama of it all.. moa is less drama as i see it.. smoothie is more drama.. i am not sure if that is a fair characterization, but it is what first comes to mind.. why bash anyone? we are all like that story of a group of blind people trying to figure out what the animal is – an elephant, lol… we can help each other, as opposed to trying to take others down.. i like helmer and think he is a straight shooter.. sure, he gets things wrong too probably, but seems fairly unbiased as i see him..
i don’t think there is an argument over martyanov or moa… perhaps some of the posters argue, but it is mostly irrelevant as i see it.. the topic of the future is a source of interest for everyone regardless of how they see it unfolding in the present..
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 3:55 utc | 345
@ Wisco | Aug 27 2024 3:25 utc | 344 who is regularly negative in their contribution towards others
I will step in and support what james is trying to say to you. Are you going to give b shit for being played about the Cornell West thing?
This bar has been good historically for folks coming and trying to add value to b’s postings and not attack good intentioned discourse. I encourage you to join us in that fashion, thanks.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 27 2024 4:11 utc | 346
☠️ZeZabota and ZeZashchita
By decision of August 16, No. 936, the Cabinet of Ministers decided to provide the Ukrainian population with gas masks free of charge, irrevocably and, most importantly, in advance… in the event of the use of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction against Ukraine.
So, gas masks must be provided to:
☢️Non-working population – local administrations from local communal reserves for the elimination of the consequences of emergencies.
☢️Working population – business entities at their own expense.
☢️Government officials – their authorities at the expense of the state budget.
☢️Employees of local governments – their local governments at the expense of local budgets.
Each entity providing the population with gas masks must develop a plan for their distribution, create and ensure the operation of distribution points and form distribution teams (groups). Gas masks must be issued in accordance with the methodological recommendations of the State Emergency Service.
The mandatory standard for storing protective equipment is one gas mask per person and an additional 2% of the total number of the corresponding category of the population.
Well, thank you, now we are safer, though a little more alarming…
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 4:12 utc | 347
“moa is less drama as i see it.. smoothie is more drama.. i am not sure if that is a fair”
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 3:55 utc | 345
As i see it, MoA is a bit more intellectual. Smoothie relies too much on upvotes and downvotes. MoA relies more on people reading the posts. Accept for the trolls.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 4:14 utc | 348
🇷🇺⚔️🇺🇦Powerful breakthrough of the “🅾️brave”: most of Novogrodovka taken, assault on Kalinovo ends
▪️Units of the “Center” group of forces continue a powerful breakthrough in the Pokrovsky direction.
▪️The assault on Novogrodovka is approaching its climax, most of the city is behind us, the enemy is retreating.
▪️Since yesterday, our fighters have advanced in the city center in an area up to 1.5 km wide and up to 1.2 km deep.
➖”The eastern and central part of Novogrodovka is already under Russian control.” ➖ “The Russians are actively advancing in the direction of Grodovka, they were able to approach from the south and took control of 3 adjacent forest belts! They are also advancing towards the Kotlyarevsky mine waste heap, they shot down our tank with FPV drones, now everything is burning there!” – the Ukrainian Armed Forces militants wrote during the day.
▪️East of Grodovka, the Russian Armed Forces advanced along the ravine to a depth of 1 km.
➖North of Mikhailovka, our units advanced to a depth of 650 meters, approaching the Kotlyarevskaya mine.
◾️Also during the day, an attack was underway on the settlement of Kalinovo, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are known to have retreated, the cleanup is being completed.
◾️ The enemy reports that ours are attacking in the area of the Mikhailovsky waste heap, trying to gain a foothold.
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 4:15 utc | 349
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 27 2024 4:11 utc | 346
You might have misinterpreted my recent posts.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 4:19 utc | 350
@ Wisco | Aug 27 2024 4:14 utc | 348
maybe… i don’t consider myself intellectual, lol.. more emotional, but i keep a tight reign on my emotions.. they work well for playing music and that is probably why i play music so much.. it is a positive emotional outlet…
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 4:21 utc | 351
I pretty much like all of your posts, james. You aren’t ever a dick. And i know you are a musician.
https://youtu.be/oDd32K-mOVw?feature=shared
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 4:32 utc | 352
thanks wisco.. pretty much ditto, although i think it is harder for people to appreciate you sometimes! i really dig johnny cash.. i read the los angeles reporters book on him – i can’t remember his name – robert hilburn.. – great book – johnny cash the life.. great writer..
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 4:38 utc | 353
i am more into the abstract stuff.. here is a great johnny cash song that norah jones sang on- under the leadership of joel harrison, a mostly unknown guitarist… i love the sound of the pedal steel.. daniel lanois plays that too..
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 4:40 utc | 354
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I1v3YTgWrk
i am off to walk the dog and read, and then sleep.. cheers wisco..
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 4:41 utc | 355
One more Johnny Cash song..
https://youtu.be/lrHO9_saWls?si=ZWChg9OWkL-CmNOE
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 5:15 utc | 356
Regarding Durov, coincidentally since a couple of months ago, telegram’s crypto coin had been crazily given away everywhere with returns of investment of up to 300%. Suddenly the guys get caught and toncoin crumbles. It was the 9th crypto with most money on it
Posted by: Mariátegui | Aug 27 2024 5:30 utc | 357
Our source reports that Zelensky held a meeting with the security forces, since Bankova finally realized that the people began to turn away from the government. And in the South-East, the number of those who are again waiting and “helping” the arrival of Russia is growing.
Not only among the people, but also among politicians, officials and the business elite. The office workers noticed what we have been writing about for a long time.
By the way, the movement to ban the UOC, the lawlessness in Zemobilization, mass power outages, increased tariffs, taxes, prices, only strengthens these trends.
Office repressions will intensify. Cases will be “forged” against everyone. Zelensky needs to intimidate the people, force them to remain silent and endure.
In fact, Ukraine was 75% united, really only in 2022, when many were in emotional shock and believed Zelensky. Now the emotions have subsided. Ukrainians began to think and many saw a lot …
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 5:49 utc | 358
Posted by: james | Aug 27 2024 4:41 utc | 355
Thanks for sharing. Good stuff.
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 27 2024 6:15 utc | 359
#Report for the morning of August 27, 2024
▪️ The past 24 hours were spent observing the results of an extremely massive UAV and missile strike on critical energy infrastructure facilities that ensured the operation of Ukraine’s military-industrial complex, enemy gas compressor stations, and storage sites for aircraft weapons. Kiev has imposed emergency restrictions on electricity supply and is taking informational measures to exaggerate the damage.
▪️ This night, attacks on the enemy’s rear continued . Explosions were heard until the morning in Krivoy Rog, Zaporizhia, Chuguev, the city of Bershad in the Vinnytsia region, Starokostiantyniv and Shepetivka in the Khmelnytsky region, Kiev (Vyshgorod), Nikolaev, Cherkasy, Sumy, Rivne, Zhitomir regions. The use of hypersonic “Daggers” was reported.
▪️ In the Kursk region, the North group of forces of the Russian Armed Forces reported our counterattacks in the Sudzhansky district, the liberation of the settlement of Nizhnyaya Parovaya and battles near the settlement of Kamyshevka. The enemy is concentrating its main efforts in the direction of Korenevo. Over the past 24 hours, our troops repelled attacks on the settlements of Korenevo, Kulbaki and Kremyanoye. However, by the end of the day, the Ukrainian Armed Forces were advancing in the Snagosti area and in the Sudzhansky district. The Russian Armed Forces are actively using aviation to destroy the enemy in the Kursk and Sumy regions. At night, our air defense repelled attacks by Ukrainian drones in Kursk, there is damage. There are no casualties, said the mayor of the city, Igor Katsuk. In the evening, four Ukrainian missiles were destroyed by air defense forces in the skies of the Kursk region.
▪️ In the Pokrovsky direction, by evening, information began to arrive about the beginning of the assault by the Russian Armed Forces on the village of Nikolaevka in the Pokrovsky direction, the last village before the city of Mirnograd. North of Mikhaylovka, Russian troops have consolidated their positions in the production facilities of the Kotlyarevskaya mine. Fighting for the waste heap continues.
▪️ In the Belgorod region, over the past day, as a result of strikes by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, 9 civilians were wounded in Shebekino, Repyakhovka in the Krasnoyarsk district and Kosilovo in the Grayvoronsky urban district.
▪️ In the DPR in Gorlovka, as a result of a strike by the Ukrainian Armed Forces using barrel artillery, a woman born in 1954 and a young man born in 2005 were injured.
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 6:37 utc | 360
Corruption and nepotism will cause big problems for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
People who don’t know how to shoot are hiding from the front for money in mobile air defense groups
▪️Ukrainian Armed Forces sniper training instructor P. Kashchuk criticized the work of mobile combat groups using a video that was distributed as a shot down cruise missile with a machine gun (later it turned out that the missile was shot down by air defense).
▪️He stated that signing up for service in these groups is a corruption scheme that helps to avoid being sent to the front lines.
➖”The video shows the very terrible work of one of the groups against the background of the shot down of a cruise missile by another air defense missile. Sanek, it seems, almost for the first time shot from that Browning, to which someone’s brother-in-law slobbered some kind of sight. The frame was clearly not welded by volunteers for Sanek. But even if it were under it, then without some kind of support or butt there would be no sense anyway. But the image of active activity continues, society hoots at such videos, someone somewhere gets some kind of awards for reports,” Kashchuk said.
▪️With regard to mobile groups, it is time to “make a difficult but responsible decision – at least distribute these thousands of pickups to the front, then machine guns, then return bribes to those who hid there from the war, and complete the formation of other units.”
➖“Or at least recruit not from those who pay more to “fight” near a house somewhere in the Frankivsk region, but, for example, from all sorts of MKPS members and “civilian instructors” who mercilessly kill 100 plates per second,” Kashchuk added.
➖He was supported by MP Maryana Bezugla: “I have been writing for a long time about this corruption scheme, which is covered up by the command of the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.”
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24101
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 6:39 utc | 361
What does the breakthrough of the Russian Armed Forces at Novogrodovka mean?
The Ukrainian command took a big chance in early August by attacking in the Kursk region. They managed to turn the attack into a psychological operation. But there’s nuance.
The Russians used their forces sparingly in Kursk, and were able to stall the advance with only several units of conscripts.
Meanwhile, several important developments occurred in the main theater of operations.
Up to this point, the Russian army had difficulty breaking through to the city of Pokrovsk, a large regional center important for Ukraine as a hub for logistics and industry. Along the way, the Russian army had to deal with a chain of villages and larger towns: Grodovka, Novogrodovka, Krasny Yar, where multi-story building areas and the industrial zones of Pokrovsk and Mirnograd are sprawling. But over the past week, this ring of defense has cracked and begun to fall apart.
The Russian army expected heavy fighting for Novogrodovka, a town of 15,000, but it was able to march to the center of the town in four days. They broke through into Grodovka and occupied about a quarter of the area. The Russians took the village of Krutoy Yar in one fell swoop. Krasny Yar is still holding, but it doesn’t matter much anymore. The front line is now less than 10 km from the central streets of Mirnograd and Pokrovsk.
What does this mean? It means that when Russian artillery and drone crews get closer, Pokrovsk will no longer exist as an industrial and logistics center. And this will be a serious blow to the supply of Ukrainian troops throughout the Donbass and an opportunity for the Russian Armed Forces to attack in any direction. From the north, toward the rear of the Slavyansk agglomeration, to the south, toward the rear of Kurakhovo…
…And to the west, to the Dnieper…a collapse of the front.
Do they understand this in Ukraine? Of course! But where are the reserves to plug such a breach? They’re in Kursk. Well-trained brigades with NATO equipment, HIMARS and tanks are storming the women’s penal colony in Malaya Loknya, trying to capture vacant land south of the Seim River – doing anything but defending Pokrovsk and Mirnograd.
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 6:41 utc | 362
recommended reading – only question is how reliable are these insider military sources, and can Helmer’s trust in them be trusted?
John Helmer returns from holidays with a must read rundown on the Kursk SNAFU:
https://johnhelmer.org/kursk-belgorod-bryansk-is-president-putin-preparing-for-istanbul-ii/
[I particularly enjoyed his dressing down of the highly overrated so called ‘analysis’ of A. Martyanov, whom he bluntly refers to as “an exceptionalist of the Russian variety” while adding that “Russian exceptionalists believe it is impossible for them to be deceived, defrauded, or defeated”. LOL.]
Posted by: Rubiconned | Aug 26 2024 11:41 utc | 204
I think SNAFU is an understatement but I am not there on the ground so am far from sure what is really happening in Kursk or the Kremlin. I prefer not to believe any of them with hard evidence or high powered confirmations.
it does not paint Russia nor Putin in a good light
Posted by: colin | Aug 27 2024 7:08 utc | 363
Medvedev “Now everyone understands everything, even if they don’t say it out loud. They understand that there will BE NO MORE NEGOTIATIONS UNTIL THE COMPLETE DEFEAT OF THE ENEMY! [Medvedev’s caps]”
Medvedev’s reference to the “idle chatter of unauthorized intermediaries” is to the Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orban, whom Putin endorsed at the Kremlin on July 5 for the ill-concealed purpose of sending a message to presidential candidate Trump with whom Orban talked on July 10. For that story, click.
Days before his meeting with Orban, Putin had announced his abandonment of the demilitarization, denazification objectives of the Special Military Operation in exchange for “the complete withdrawal of all Ukrainian troops from the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics and from the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.”
This change of objective has not yet been acknowledged by the Kremlin media; it is opposed by the Russian military and by the majority of Russian voters. “War is war — either we go to war or surrender” – is a popular slogan on Russian social media for Putin to stop restricting the General Staff.
“The problem for the Russians,” comments a military source, “is that they, especially the Kremlin, the Defense Ministry, and the Foreign Ministry have lost the propaganda war. This puts them in a bad spot as they need more than stopping, then pushing the Ukrainians back in Kursk, or a Donbass victory, in order to recover. They need to knock the Ukrainians out of the war. But on that Putin says one thing — he does another.”
The first reports from the Defense Ministry in Moscow were false.
The attack was carried out by limited forces and was repulsed. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the FSB did not allow the breakthrough of the enemy’s forces”. This was false.
Rozhin’s use of the Russian acronym DRG is revealing. It stands for Ukrainian sabotage and reconnaissance group, meaning a hybrid of small units of scouts, special forces, and terrorists. The acronym had been used in reporting many Ukrainian incursions across the border for more than a year. Applied to the August 6 invasion of Kursk, this was false.
Either Gerasimov knew much better and was lying to Putin for public propaganda; or else he didn’t know what the true situation was.
Moscow sources explain these are Kremlin claims aimed at whitewashing Putin’s refusal to allow the General Staff to extend their operations into the Ukrainian Sumy region to break up the attack concentration in advance; and at concealing Putin’s purpose in preparing for the Istanbul-II negotiations.
AND
This is as close as a national politician has come so far to reverse the logic of Putin’s proposals for Istanbul-II, and instead to empty the territory of its “terrorists” and their weapons to the full limits of the demilitarization and denazification goals of February 2022.
“Whoever is to blame on the Russian side for the invasion of Kursk,” comments a military source, “this is officially now a tar baby for the Ukrainians. They can’t afford to stay but they can’t afford to leave either. They should thank their lucky stars for Putin. It not for him, they’d have no place to leave for or return to.”
Reversing the operational logic of the anti-terrorism operation has a domestic political corollary which Rozhin admitted ruefully on August 24. “Many people are already talking about the need to use useful organizational solutions of the Stalinist period, especially in terms of mobilizing the country and society in war conditions, starting with the former de-stalinizer [Dmitri] Medvedev, who now scares the directors of defense factories with Stalin’s letters from the Second World War. The reason for this is simple — referring to the previous historical experience, in the 20th century, in terms of decisions in a difficult period for the country, there is no one to turn to except Stalin. Well, not to Gorbachev nor to Nicholas II.”
For “organizational solutions of the Stalinist period”, read the end of the Russian oligarchy.
Posted by: colin | Aug 27 2024 7:09 utc | 364
Dima:
-RUAF captured almost entire Novogrodovka, AFU hold the far NW part and terracon, also terracon in the SW of the village
-Several small cauldrons in far E/SE parts of Toretsk, AFU 150th brigade released video asking for help (not from commanders but from lawyers against illegal orders)
-AFU offensive in Sudzha-Koroneva-Kursk area continues to be sidetracked toward Glushkovo area, RUAF managed to take back SE part of Koronevo, also Shelenovka-Olgevka (E of Koronevo), and Churali, and the initial control of AFU DRG groups are being restored for RUAF
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 27 2024 10:26 utc | 365
-Several small cauldrons in far E/SE parts of Toretsk, AFU 150th brigade released video asking for help (not from commanders but from lawyers against illegal orders)
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 27 2024 10:26 utc | 365
Q32024 risks being called the summer of cauldrons…
When, much earlier, I mentioned tendrils, the natural conclusion would be cauldrons later on.
The big question is if the cook wants to put a lid on them or let it stew open.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 27 2024 10:33 utc | 366
colin | Aug 27 2024 7:09 utc | 364
Just my opinion; There is probably much less disagreement between the “Kremlin” and the General Staff, than appears on the surface. I reckon that Putin and the “Staff” are running a “good cop – bad cop” routine, that is designed to muddy the waters for the Ukrainians.
Every little confusion helps.
In the Kursk region, Russian troops have recaptured some of the previously lost positions in the area of Kremyanoye and Olgovka. In the latter, intense clashes are underway and some positions are being taken over by the Ukrainian Armed Forces and then by the Russians. Ukrainian troops are trying to advance in small groups.
Meanwhile, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have realized that a further breakthrough through Korenevo to Rylsk is a very costly operation and without serious reinforcements it will be difficult to achieve a result. Therefore, as we wrote earlier, Ukrainian forces are planning an operation on Rylsk from Glukhov, where Ukrainian reserves are concentrated.
According to the plans of Commander-in-Chief Syrsky, a new strike by the Ukrainian Armed Forces will allow cutting off Rylsk along the Seim River.
Ukrainian troops took Cherkassk Porechny and also carried out an attack in the direction of Cherkasskaya Konopelka and Komarovka. However, the offensive towards Komarovka took place under active shelling of Ukrainian forces by Russian aviation and artillery. In the Glushkovsky district, the Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to strike the Russian Armed Forces using UAVs.
In the Sudzhansky sector, the Ukrainian Armed Forces continue to concentrate their efforts on squeezing the Russian Armed Forces out of Martynovka; clashes are also taking place in the area of Malaya Loknya and Pogrebki.
Fighting is also taking place in Borki and Spalnoye. Despite the ongoing attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, no progress has been recorded here. Another attack by Ukrainian forces was in the area of Nechayev, where the Ukrainian Armed Forces maintain a presence southwest of the settlement and have entrenched themselves in the nearby forest.
In the Kursk region, in general, the trends are moving toward a gradual transition to positional forms of warfare. Ukrainian and Russian forces are intensively mining the line of combat contact. At the same time, the reduction of maneuver space has become the main problem for the Ukrainian Armed Forces in recent days.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24103
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 11:21 utc | 368
Our source reported that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will leave Novogrodovka, since there are no reserves to hold the cities in the Pokrovsky direction.
Zelensky’s Kursk adventure could lead to the collapse of the entire Eastern Front.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces retreated from Novogrodovka in the Pokrovsky direction, writes a fighter of the 3rd separate assault brigade Vladislav “Datsik”.
Thus, it took the Russians only a few days to capture a settlement with a pre-war population of 14 thousand people.
https://t.me/rezident_ua/24105
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 11:23 utc | 369
All our sources predict that a “domino principle” may begin in the defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Donbass, when the fall of one defensive line pulls the next one along with it, and so on. Of course, this will increase panic and undermine the morale of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
The Kursk adventure will be Zelensky’s biggest miscalculation.
Zelensky and Syrsky are now sending infantry to Donbass, trying to put out the fire. So far, it’s not going well, the number of losses is growing exponentially.
Once our source said one phrase about the Ukrainian crisis, which we remembered and now believe that there is some truth in it: “It all started with Donbass, and it will all end with Donbass.” The essence of the phrase is that the authorities in 2014 launched the actual split of Ukraine precisely from Donbass, when they sent the army to “stifle” popular protests, and not to negotiate. Then there was Odessa on May 2 and the war in Donbass intensified. As we can see, the final stage is now beginning in Donbass.
Perhaps this is not it yet, since in 2019-2020 we thought that this phrase symbolized the acquisition of autonomy by Donbass, as was written in the Minsk agreements that Zelensky promised the Ukrainian people to fulfill. But then Zelensky deceived the people’s expectations and intensified the war.
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 11:26 utc | 370
That Putin is temperate or weak is a good think: in his Russia problem, the sacrifice is done in his watch.
USA: liar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5cm3hMtns
Posted by: John | Aug 27 2024 11:42 utc | 371
… It gives urban Ukrainians some time to relocate in the countryside where they can plant gardens next spring, gather mushrooms and other nature foods…and have ready access to water.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 15:16 utc | 274
Whaat the fuck are you smoking?
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 26 2024 22:13 utc | 327
Aristodemos is the one thinking clearly here.
The biggest killer in warfare isn’t bombs or bullets … it’s the hunger and disease that affect civilians as civilization crumbles around them.
While no one really care when millions of African or Arab civilians die or are forces to migrate due to the risk of disease or starvation they will take notice when millions of white Ukrainians start dying of starvation or disease just like they did in the 1940’s.
What people don’t seem to understand is this attack on Ukraine energy infrastructure isn’t a tactical strike to stop the Ukrainian military but a strike against the EU by causing a humanitarian disaster that they will have no choice but to deal with.
You can only last 3 days without water and municipal water pumps run on electricity. Once the drinking water stops flowing and the toilets don’t flush any more that’s when dysentery starts to kill. The very young and very old are the first to go.
This time it’ll be hard to ignore because it’s white Europeans who are dying not Libyans, Somalis or Iraqis.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 27 2024 11:59 utc | 372
Therefore, as we wrote earlier, Ukrainian forces are planning an operation on Rylsk from Glukhov, where Ukrainian reserves are concentrated.
According to the plans of Commander-in-Chief Syrsky, a new strike by the Ukrainian Armed Forces will allow cutting off Rylsk along the Seim River.
Posted by: Down South | Aug 27 2024 11:21 utc | 368
So explain to me as if I was a 4 year old (retard).
They wish to attack to reach Rylsk from Glukhov…and they bombed the bridges over the Seim
Makes as much sense as … I’m at loss to find a comparison to this brilliant and cunning plan…
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 27 2024 12:02 utc | 373
Makes as much sense as …
Newbie | Aug 27 2024 12:02 utc | 373
If that wasn’t enough, enjoy today’s news: “Ukraine has a victory plan that it will present to the United States, Zelensky said at a press conference. Kursk operation is one component of this plan. It stopped the Russian offensive in the Kharkov region and resolved the issue of the reoccupation of Sumy and Chernigov regions”
The second component is Ukraine’s strategic position in global security infrastructure. The third is a powerful package to compel Russia to end the war through diplomatic means. The fourth is economic” A plan involving objectives for long-range strikes on Russian territory will be brought to Washington by Yermak and Umerov.
Posted by: rk | Aug 27 2024 12:09 utc | 374
Re: Posted by: Stonebird | Aug 27 2024 10:48 utc | 367
Just my opinion; There is probably much less disagreement between the “Kremlin” and the General Staff, than appears on the surface. I reckon that Putin and the “Staff” are running a “good cop – bad cop” routine, that is designed to muddy the waters for the Ukrainians.
Every little confusion helps.
Aha! So omniscient Putin playing 45D chess again!
Wow.
Posted by: Julian | Aug 27 2024 12:25 utc | 375
40 trucks claimed destroyed in strike in Odessa depot.
Yesterday it wasn’t yet cleared how many but some sources talked about dozens.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1828408627645776333
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 27 2024 12:32 utc | 376
https://oilprice.com/The-Environment/Global-Warming/Looming-Atlantic-Current-Collapse-Threatens-Northern-Europes-Climate.html
Hey, Tough Luck with all that cooling, EU. Want some cheap natural gas now?
Zelensky now has a plan for victory? Wonder where that plan was a month ago. Rylsk is ridiculous as is other offensives that are announced publically. They Know You’re Coming. So, maybe 400+ killed in Kursk area in 24 hrs? I say Zelensky will never give up his border incursion, even if the Donbass front collapses. “Not a step back” is making a blood bath.
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 27 2024 12:48 utc | 377
Hey, Tough Luck with all that cooling, EU. Want some cheap natural gas now?
Zelensky now has a plan for victory? Wonder where that plan was a month ago. Rylsk is ridiculous as is other offensives that are announced publically. They Know You’re Coming. So, maybe 400+ killed in Kursk area in 24 hrs? I say Zelensky will never give up his border incursion, even if the Donbass front collapses. “Not a step back” is making a blood bath.
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 27 2024 12:48 utc | 377
The delusional nature of things that come out of Z’s mouth have probably surpassed the hitler in bunker level…
As I mentioned in the other thread his “cunning plan” is now a page from standard nato operations, a massive wave of tomahawks, now he only needs to find and imbecile that is willing to strike deep in RF with a spider silk mono-filament thong as a fig leaf…
Easy-peasy…
Retaliation? Good, good, first door on the left, one nuke each!
No I’m not going full shadowbanned, this would be a minimum interpretation for RF doctrine for a major nato nuclear state trying to go boom deep into russia.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 27 2024 13:43 utc | 378
John Helmer returns from holidays with a must read rundown on the Kursk SNAFU:
https://johnhelmer.org/kursk-belgorod-bryansk-is-president-putin-preparing-for-istanbul-ii/
[I particularly enjoyed his dressing down of the highly overrated so called ‘analysis’ of A. Martyanov, whom he bluntly refers to as “an exceptionalist of the Russian variety” while adding that “Russian exceptionalists believe it is impossible for them to be deceived, defrauded, or defeated”. LOL.]
Posted by: Rubiconned | Aug 26 2024 11:41 utc | 204
After reading the article, I’m confused as to what the deal is with John Helmer. Why is this guy putting his words into President Putin’s mouth. It’s very disingenuous and on par with western msm to do so.
Specifically this passage:
“Days before his meeting with Orban, Putin had announced his abandonment of the demilitarization, denazification objectives of the Special Military Operation in exchange for “the complete withdrawal of all Ukrainian troops from the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics and from the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions.”
But when you go through his link where announcement was supposedly made, this is what it actually said:
“once Kiev agrees to the course of action proposed today, including the full withdrawal of its troops from the DPR, LPR, the Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, and begins this process earnestly, we are prepared to commence negotiations promptly without delay.
I repeat our firm stance: Ukraine should adopt a neutral, non-aligned status, be nuclear-free, and undergo demilitarisation and denazification. These parameters were broadly agreed upon during the Istanbul negotiations in 2022, including specific details on demilitarisation such as the agreed numbers of tanks and other military equipment. We reached consensus on all points.”
There was zero mention of this bomb shell policy change of dropping demilitarisation and denazification from the SMO objectives. All the more baffling is for Helmer to link something that instantly disproves what he just wrote. It really just makes what the rest of what he wrote all the more suspect.
Posted by: Autumn | Aug 27 2024 13:51 utc | 379
HB_Norica@1159
Thanks for the cogent thoughts on the urban “hunger games” which will soon sweep urban Ukraine. That the leaders of the R.U. made their move in late Summer does enable thoughtful and far-seeing urbanites, most particularly in Kiev, to get out when there is still some possibility of preparing themselves for a long, hard winter.
Overcentralization into huge cities which are dependent upon everything coming in from outside to maintain life, is IMHO, the most tragic direction which “civilization” has devolved.
Socrates pointed out some 2,500 years ago that the largest an urban agglomeration can become without achieving some level of community cohesion is around 30,000 people. In a concentrated environment at that level of residents; it is possible to maintain some direct connection with resources from the hinterland.
Lacking electricity, even the gasoline and diesel fuel pumps will be heavily degraded.
There were reasons why the Mayan people some 6-700 years ago, deserted their amazing cities and highly developed civilization and headed out to the countryside. Those overly comfortable upper middle-class Westerners who cannot conceive the loss of electrical grids may face some serious awakening times.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 15:15 utc | 380
Wisco@255
Truce…Okay? Last time I bought ANY cannabis stateside was in October of ’74 when I traveled to a hippie farm some miles north of Menominee, Wisconsin and bought a pound of their corncrop “shaded” produce for a hundred bucks.
Currently, a third cousin, with an M.A. in botany has developed strains which could sock your knocks off. He does some deer hunting on my land and is happy to share some of his more sativa concentrated stuff. I like smokum which enhances energy levels while inducing right-hemisphere inductive and intuitive elements into the overall thought process.
Back in the late 60’s there already had developed three different “strains” of individuals who smoked. The largest grouping was those folks simply liking to get high.
Unfortunately, the second bunch were for good reasons were called “loadies”. Perhaps they already intuitively realized that we exist in a terminally degraded and clinically insane cultural reality…and were seeking a smooth means of escape. It is too bad at that time that our current Indica strains were not then available broadly. So they turned to nasty-assed chemical crap.
Highest profile, perhaps, but not numerically huge were those who were considered as “heads”. “Feed your head” was the mantra. As developments in the cannabis culture came up with more distinctive iterations; it became possible to focus on the better sativa strains in order to enhance rather than degrade mental acuity.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 15:34 utc | 381
Thanks for the cogent thoughts on the urban “hunger games” which will soon sweep urban Ukraine. That the leaders of the R.U. made their move in late Summer does enable thoughtful and far-seeing urbanites, most particularly in Kiev, to get out when there is still some possibility of preparing themselves for a long, hard winter.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 15:15 utc | 380
Putin has shown amazing restraint to avoid curb stomping Ukraine but at every turn but the west + Zelensky have been taunting the Russians, negotiating in bad faith and begging for a shit kicking.
Ukraine is family to Russia, 60% of what Ukraine claims as it’s own had been Russian since before the USA was a nation. Ukrainians have intermarried and the Russians today are killing their aunts uncles and cousins. Real war … not TV war or USA forever war .., but real war with famine, dysentry and cannabalism is a recent memory to many on both sides of this conflict … they don’t want to inflict this on Americans let alone family.
I do think Russian patience is wearing thin however and they are resigned to do what they have to do to end this dumpster fire.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 27 2024 17:09 utc | 382
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 2:48 utc | 336
“Are you two assholes so dense that you cannot comprehend what I posted?”
Given your frame of reference is the product of Hollywood fantasy, I question the basis of your intellect.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 27 2024 17:24 utc | 383
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 15:15 utc | 380
“Socrates pointed out…” Which Dialogue is this? What is the context/philosophical basis? I’m not familiar with his work as an agriculturalist.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 27 2024 17:40 utc | 384
hoarsegourds@383
So you wanna play intellectual games with me. “Basis of your intellect” is a bit more than left-brain rationalization of a presumed dimensional reality.
“Hollywood fantasy”…usually the case with most Hollywood productions. For that reason the last two movies I viewed were The Matrix and Avatar…most of the rest of those other products were basically mindwash and not worthy of temporal expenditures.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 18:12 utc | 385
Housecards@1812
Such exquisite timing in evoking the 1812 Overture…unintendedly, needles to say. Did I actually even infer that Socrates was an “agriculturalist”? The man was not merely urbane, living in Athens as was the case. However, Athens, ca 450 B.C. was anything but a megalopolis of twenty million inmates.
Hellenic Greece remains to this day the highest iteration of Western Civ.
Even the Italian Renaissance, was to be revealed by that very terminology; the best that late 15th and early 16th Century could rediscover of the civilizational miracle which was Hellenic Greece.
No doubt you are at least minimally conversant with the term “The Dark Ages”. That devolution of Western cultural achievements was the product of Roman Emperors beginning with Constantine and latterly by Justinian…with “providential” lying on the part of the arch-religionist Eusebius of Caesarea. In Frazier’s “Golden Baugh”, a documented account of Eusebius admitting to lying on behalf of his anti-Jesusite religious cause.
Those “individuals” were the most instrumental agents in the devolution of the previously highly nature-integrated cultures of the European tribal nations by means of forced “conversion” into worship of Jahweh the Bloodthirsty and of Imperial Diktat. From the then dissolved Western European empire; “Holy” Mother Church reinforced and extended the Diktat to the point where even basic literacy was an exclusive province owned by the clergy.
To echo one of the more profoundly real statements to be found within Constantine’s “Holy” Bible…and very slightly paraphrased…the Spiritual cornerstone was that which was rejected by the Builder. Abrahamic religiosity is the polar opposite of genuine spirituality.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 18:30 utc | 386
There were reasons why the Mayan people some 6-700 years ago, deserted their amazing cities and highly developed civilization and headed out to the countryside. Those overly comfortable upper middle-class Westerners who cannot conceive the loss of electrical grids may face some serious awakening times.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 15:15 utc | 380
More like 1.200 years ago, circa 800AD
They all do the same, after a new city is created they can go through the crash rebuild twice every ~1600 years, when it’s the 3rd they know it’s over and just abandon it.
My 2 cents
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 27 2024 18:50 utc | 387
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 15:15 utc | 380
“Socrates pointed out…” Which Dialogue is this? What is the context/philosophical basis? I’m not familiar with his work as an agriculturalist.
Posted by: horseguards | Aug 27 2024 17:40 utc | 384
TIMAEUS
There have been, and will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes; the greatest have been brought about by the agencies of fire and water, and other lesser ones by innumerable other causes.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 27 2024 18:53 utc | 388
Housecards@1812
Such exquisite timing in evoking the 1812 Overture…unintendedly, needles to say. Did I actually even infer that Socrates was an “agriculturalist”? The man was not merely urbane, living in Athens as was the case. However, Athens, ca 450 B.C. was anything but a megalopolis of twenty million inmates.
Hellenic Greece remains to this day the highest iteration of Western Civ.
Even the Italian Renaissance, was to be revealed by that very terminology; the best that late 15th and early 16th Century could rediscover of the civilizational miracle which was Hellenic Greece.
No doubt you are at least minimally conversant with the term “The Dark Ages”. That devolution of Western cultural achievements was the product of Roman Emperors beginning with Constantine and latterly by Justinian…with “providential” lying on the part of the arch-religionist Eusebius of Caesarea. In Frazier’s “Golden Baugh”, a documented account of Eusebius admitting to lying on behalf of his anti-Jesusite religious cause.
Those “individuals” were the most instrumental agents in the devolution of the previously highly nature-integrated cultures of the European tribal nations by means of forced “conversion” into worship of Jahweh the Bloodthirsty and of Imperial Diktat. From the then dissolved Western European empire; “Holy” Mother Church reinforced and extended the Diktat to the point where even basic literacy was an exclusive province owned by the clergy.
To echo one of the more profoundly real statements to be found within Constantine’s “Holy” Bible…and very slightly paraphrased…the Spiritual cornerstone was that which was rejected by the Builder. Abrahamic religiosity is the polar opposite of genuine spirituality.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 18:30 utc | 386
And ~1600 years before the dark ages you had the collapse of the bronze age, and before, and before… still Timaeus
as were most versed in ancient lore about their early history, he discovered that neither he himself nor any other Greek knew anything at all, one might say, about such matters. And on one occasion, when he wished to draw them on to discourse on ancient history, he attempted to tell them the most ancient of our traditions, concerning Phoroneus, who was said to be the first man, and Niobe; and he went on to tell the legend about Deucalion and Pyrrha after the Flood, and how they survived it, and to give the geneology of their descendants; [22b] and by recounting the number of years occupied by the events mentioned he tried to calculate the periods of time. Whereupon one of the priests, a prodigiously old man, said, “O Solon, Solon, you Greeks are always children: there is not such a thing as an old Greek.” And on hearing this he asked, “What mean you by this saying?” And the priest replied, “You are young in soul, every one of you. For therein you possess not a single belief that is ancient and derived from old tradition, nor yet one science that is hoary with age. [22c] And this is the cause thereof: There have been and there will be many and divers destructions of mankind,1 of which the greatest are by fire and water, and lesser ones by countless other means. For in truth the story that is told in your country as well as ours, how once upon a time Phaethon, son of Helios,2 yoked his father’s chariot, and, because he was unable to drive it along the course taken by his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth and himself perished by a thunderbolt,—that story, as it is told, has the fashion of a legend, but the truth of it lies in [22d] the occurrence of a shifting of the bodies in the heavens which move round the earth, and a destruction of the things on the earth by fierce fire, which recurs at long intervals. At such times all they that dwell on the mountains and in high and dry places suffer destruction more than those who dwell near to rivers or the sea; and in our case the Nile, our Saviour in other ways, saves us also at such times from this calamity by rising high. And when, on the other hand, the Gods purge the earth with a flood of waters, all the herdsmen and shepherds that are in the mountains are saved,3 [22e] but those in the cities of your land are swept into the sea by the streams; whereas In our country neither then nor at any other time does the water pour down over our fields from above, on the contrary it all tends naturally to well up from below. Hence it is, for these reasons, that what is here preserved is reckoned to be most ancient; the truth being that in every place where there is no excessive heat or cold to prevent it there always exists some human stock, now more, now less in number.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 27 2024 18:58 utc | 389
Apologies, these last posts were for the open thread as I expected to find them there (after inviting others to discuss this stuff there)
B, so very sorry, delete at will
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 27 2024 18:59 utc | 390
re: Autumn | Aug 27 2024 13:51 utc | 379
Thanks for your comments regarding John Helmer and thanks to others for their comments concerning him. I have often found him a puzzling read and wonder what he is actually trying to say (and his site has a comments section that never has any comments!).
But I too “enjoyed his dressing down of the highly overrated so called ‘analysis’ of A. Martyanov” and his characterisation of him as “an exceptionalist of the Russian variety” while adding that “Russian exceptionalists believe it is impossible for them to be deceived, defrauded, or defeated”.
If someone were to suggest that China might be ahead of Russia in some area then I’m sure Martyanov’s blood pressure would rise as well as his voice and off he would be on some diatribe of denial!
Exceptionalists as well as “doomsters” seem to me useful descriptions of some Russians, which is one of the reasons I admire the quite different Russian, V V Putin!
Posted by: Ново З | Aug 27 2024 20:39 utc | 391
(and [John Helmer’s] site has a comments section that never has any comments!).
I’ve tried to write some comments on his site, but they’ve never appeared.
Posted by: joey_n | Aug 27 2024 20:55 utc | 392
There was zero mention of this bomb shell policy change of dropping demilitarisation and denazification from the SMO objectives. All the more baffling is for Helmer to link something that instantly disproves what he just wrote. It really just makes what the rest of what he wrote all the more suspect.
Posted by: Autumn | Aug 27 2024 13:51 utc | 379
Whenever he starts going on about Putin and the Stavka and the Russian military, I tune him out. Kinda like Paul Craig Roberts when he gets into US politics. That said, Helmer is sometimes interesting and informative.
Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 27 2024 21:13 utc | 393
Concerning sources and authors, may I just add my 2 cents?
When I started looking for some credible information on the SMO I happened to find MOA
I must tell you that at first I was a bi put off by the comment section, but it was mostly here that I found references to simlplicus, skeptick, smoothie, bear, etc. (I don’t do telegram and have a thing against youtube)
I later found out how to (more or less) distinguish pet hates and fixed manias from trolls or psy-ops (and even to distinguish pet trolls from rabid beasts) , and to just try to get along and bring something to the table (mostly numbers but sometimes other stuff)
Hope this helps others as I’m sure it would help me when I first landed here.
A big thank you to all (you know who) and even our pet trolls (they keep us sharp for when the tide brings a flood of radioactive slush)
Now that we’re close to end game on the SMO, may i quote the bard?
“If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumbered here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend:
If you pardon, we will mend:
And, as I am an honest Puck,
If we have unearned luck
Now to ‘scape the serpent’s tongue,
We will make amends ere long;
Else the Puck a liar call;
So, good night unto you all.
Give me your hands, if we be friends,
And Robin shall restore amends.”
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 28 2024 0:05 utc | 394
Not going to quote anyone, since I don’t have anything specific to target.
In regards to Helmer’s article, Honestly, if RT doesn’t report it, not going to believe it. I immediately thought that section of Helmer’s article was questionable. Without even someplace like ZH giving some credence… truckload of salt. Give me a well translated second source.
Speaking of, someone made a comment back in the 200s about installing Telegram from APK vs app store. I only installed it a few months back (when B was disabled and so was this site), and APK was the only way to do so on Android here in the US. Even doing that, certain (main) RT feeds are still blocked.
I read the comments here because I think most who visit are trying to add something to a conversation that needs to happen. I don’t need an account to comment back (nor an app on my phone). I don’t comment unless I’m 100% caught up on the current thread (and I have no-one blocked/ignored as some suggest installing filters for). I have no plans on changing my policy, as it seems to vary from week to week as to who is being accused of being a troll, who is reporting other users to MI-5 (yes you Jake), and who is actually worth paying attention to (so far, everyone is, with some salt added to taste).
Posted by: varnel | Aug 28 2024 7:11 utc | 395
“There were reasons why the Mayan people some 6-700 years ago, deserted their amazing cities and highly developed civilization and headed out to the countryside. Those overly comfortable upper middle-class Westerners who cannot conceive the loss of electrical grids may face some serious awakening times.”
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 15:15 utc | 380
The reason of the Mayans leaving their cities has one reason-depletion of their arable land; deforesting the land causes greater temps which eventually, 50-75 years, leads to drought”
“The top map shows how little native forest (dark green) remained at the end of the Mayan period around 950 AD. By cutting down the forest, the Mayans changed their local climate. When NASA scientist Ben Cook examined land use for the era in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies general circulation model, he found that the climate was warmer and drier during the rainy season (June, July, and August) than it would have been had natural forest remained in place. Though deforestation didn’t cause a drought, it amplified natural droughts when they occurred. The center and lower images illustrate the change. Places that are drier (brown) and warmer (red) than normal correspond to areas where the forest had been cleared.
How could cutting a forest have such a big impact? Plants interact with the atmosphere. Dark plants—such as dense tropical forest—absorb a lot of energy from the Sun. Lighter colored plants (crops) reflect some energy. When a forest is replaced by lighter colored plants, the land reflects more sunlight, which cools the atmosphere. Cool air sinks, while water vapor needs to rise and condense to create a rainstorm. Without warm, unstable air rising into the atmosphere, rainstorms became less common. The drying pattern is shown in the center image.” (1)
1.https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/77060/mayan-deforestation-and-drought
“Hellenic Greece remains to this day the highest iteration of Western Civ.
Even the Italian Renaissance, was to be revealed by that very terminology; the best that late 15th and early 16th Century could rediscover of the civilizational miracle which was Hellenic Greece.”
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 18:30 utc | 386
100% right on.
Ref 372
Norica presumes no diesel genset at the water plant. Don’t know about Ukraine but it is standard practice in the US.
JPS
Posted by: Jp straley | Aug 28 2024 13:00 utc | 398
Passing this on, CP wrote:
“This video (link below) is an indispensable resource for understanding the history and nature of the ongoing US proxy war against Russia using the people of Ukraine as cannon fodder.
First uploaded to YouTube on 26 August 2024, the video features crucially important contributions from
Professor Glenn Diesen,
Professor John Mearsheimer,
retired diplomat Chas Freeman,
Professor Jeffrey Sachs &
retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson.
Each presentation is well worth watching on its own merit, but the exceptional content has been collated into one important and very watchable video. Approx 1hr 45mins.
As current tensions continue to escalate, with the dreaded possibility of the use of nuclear weapons, it is not inconceivable to think that the vicious internal power struggle happening in the USA, especially in the run up to the Presidential elections in November, could provide some sort of provocation in this regard.
The ideology that has heavily conditioned ’democratic’ factionalism as demonstrated by Clinton / Biden / Harris is very much to continue the proxy war with Russia.
Definitely one to bookmark and share with others. I can’t recommend it highly enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ksYzAqdmrI
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“Our No. 1 enemy is ignorance. And I believe that is the No. 1 enemy for everyone — it’s not understanding what actually is going on in the world….
”We must drag the machinations of the powerful into the daylight for all to see… We must be unapologetic about that most basic need of humanity – the desire to know…. The Truth is the only way that we can get anywhere… any decision-making… based upon lies or ignorance can’t lead to a good conclusion.”
-Julian Assange
“We are witnessing the death throes of a civilization & birth pangs of a new civilization. Turmoil and upheaval are inevitable in this process.” Benjamin Creme
“He who feared that he would not succeed sat still. – Horace
“We should not be so taken up in the search for Truth, as to neglect the needful duties of active life; For it is only action that gives a true value…to virtue.” Cicero
Peace on earth, goodwill to all!
Posted by: WillSeymour | Aug 28 2024 16:46 utc | 399
“Truce…Okay?”
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 27 2024 15:34 utc | 381
You know from previous posts I like you and many of your posts. I was offended by your description of me as “Wiscoholic”. I was offended because you are mostly right, you see right through me. So I hit back with a mild jab about ditch weed. I liked weed better when it was much weaker and more natural. I don’t like it much anymore. Maybe because whenever I partake I am already under the influence of beer 😉
Posted by: Wisco | Aug 29 2024 0:43 utc | 400