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August 25, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-203
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Pic of the Reuters ‘security advisor’ Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 26 2024 11:38 utc | 201
that is also why those nato-nazis are constantly shit-stirring in the balkans. Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 26 2024 11:40 utc | 202 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 26 2024 11:17 utc | 197 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 11:40 utc | 203 John Helmer returns from holidays with a must read rundown on the Kursk SNAFU: Posted by: Rubiconned | Aug 26 2024 11:41 utc | 204 This is just a friendly reminder to PLEASE keep arguing with the trolls! It might take a lot of effort, but deep down inside they’re good, honest people who can be persuaded if you just keep engaging them. Posted by: Donbass Lives Matter | Aug 26 2024 11:45 utc | 205 @Napoleon @Micron Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 11:45 utc | 206
https://t.me/s/legitimniy Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 26 2024 11:47 utc | 207 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 11:45 utc | 206 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 26 2024 11:48 utc | 208 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 11:45 utc | 206 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 11:51 utc | 209 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 26 2024 11:48 utc | 208 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 11:52 utc | 210 Well, thousands of Russian men died, Russian men who will not reproduce. I think this war is all about Slavs, on both sides. Vicky and their tribesmen are rubbing their hands in glee. Posted by: malenkov | Aug 26 2024 11:53 utc | 211 unimperator | Aug 26 2024 11:51 utc | 209 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 26 2024 11:54 utc | 212 A Ukrainian drone crashes into a 38-story residential building in Saratov, Russia. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 26 2024 11:54 utc | 213 One of the Kh-101’s fell into water in the Kiev region. Posted by: anon | Aug 26 2024 11:56 utc | 214 Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 26 2024 10:04 utc | 182 Posted by: Milites | Aug 26 2024 12:00 utc | 215
Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2024 12:00 utc | 216 Has Russia attacked Ukrainian 750 KV electrical infrastructure yesterday? Posted by: vargas | Aug 26 2024 12:01 utc | 217 Rapid Russian gains in the Donbass will have a multiplier effect. Cutting off transportation and logistics means Zelensky can forget about ever doing another cuckster-offensive to cut off the land bridge to Crimea. And all that coal will now go to Russia, not to Blackrock. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 12:03 utc | 218
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17256 Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2024 12:04 utc | 219
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1827879935505031510 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 12:09 utc | 220
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1827879935505031510 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 12:09 utc | 221 Surrounding two battalions in SE part of Toretsk is another tactical victory for RUAF. Even if it is only some elements of them. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 12:11 utc | 222 As usual Putin is reacting after major lose of face. Russia knows where all the major factories are but out of Putin’s great love for his fellow Ukie Slavs who are also hardcore Nazis he refused to strike. Now he’s forced by Russian public anger to take some action. Posted by: Surferket | Aug 26 2024 12:11 utc | 223 Posted by: Surferket | Aug 26 2024 12:12 utc | 224 Down South@219…..wow, a bit of monkey see monkey do….. fascinating that the Britkrainians would attack the same energy fuel and airfields targets in Russia as the Russians attack Ukraine. You just never know, eh. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 26 2024 12:15 utc | 225
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https://t.me/Slavyangrad/107146 Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2024 12:16 utc | 226 Surrounding two battalions in SE part of Toretsk is another tactical victory for RUAF. Even if it is only some elements of them. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:21 utc | 227 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 26 2024 12:15 utc | 225 Posted by: Mario | Aug 26 2024 12:24 utc | 228 The 750 kV Vinnitskaya substation is on fire – data from the NASA landscape fire monitoring satellite service Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:26 utc | 229 There are now pictures released of a truck depot in Odessa, showing three destroyed trucks. Some sources talked about a dozen destroyed trucks, but this isn’t confirmed from the released picture. This is released as part of Ukrainian propaganda so they may be hiding more damage beyond camera angles. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 12:29 utc | 230 https://en.topcor.ru/50893-spasti-ukrainu-ot-demograficheskoj-katastrofy-mozhet-tolko-kapituljacija-pered-rossiej.html Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 26 2024 12:32 utc | 231 https://t.me/s/legitimniy Posted by: anon | Aug 26 2024 12:34 utc | 232 Posted by: anon | Aug 26 2024 12:34 utc | 232 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 12:38 utc | 233 ****** Hope not a lot of 750 KV stations. Posted by: Jerr | Aug 26 2024 12:42 utc | 234 https://en.topcor.ru/50893-spasti-ukrainu-ot-demograficheskoj-katastrofy-mozhet-tolko-kapituljacija-pered-rossiej.html Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:46 utc | 235 “NATO standards”, yeah the Iraqis and the Afghans know what it means: 0V and 0A in the lines for the next 10 to 20 years. Also works for gas pipeline ; 0 PSI & 0 CFM, just ask the Germans or the Syrians. Posted by: Savonarole | Aug 26 2024 12:47 utc | 236 “I’d say around the time of Augustus Caesar, with the Senate utterly corrupted and soon to become a mere puppet show and Augustus representing the shadow elite.” “Russia is just helping 404 transfer power grid and generation to NATO standards. Like with the Ukrainian air force. Posted by: Apollyon | Aug 26 2024 12:50 utc | 238 ****** Hope not a lot of 750 KV stations. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:50 utc | 239 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 26 2024 3:33 utc | 135 Posted by: Paranaense | Aug 26 2024 12:51 utc | 240 IIRC, taking out the 750kv transformers might mean it forces a NPP into a cold shutdown, as there is no longer any safe way to send the power generated out to the grid. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 12:55 utc | 241 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 26 2024 3:33 utc | 135 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:56 utc | 242 IIRC, taking out the 750kv transformers might mean it forces a NPP into a cold shutdown, as there is no longer any safe way to send the power generated out to the grid. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:58 utc | 243 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:46 utc | 235 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 12:59 utc | 244 @Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:56 utc | 242 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 26 2024 12:59 utc | 244 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 13:13 utc | 246 Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 26 2024 6:28 utc | 148 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 26 2024 13:14 utc | 247 @Posted by: canuck | Aug 26 2024 12:49 utc | 237 @Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 12:56 utc | 242 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 13:19 utc | 249 https://t.me/RVvoenkor/75691 Posted by: guest | Aug 26 2024 13:20 utc | 250 I don’t think it is correct to characterize these strikes on Ukraine’s dwindling energy infrastructure as “revenge.” Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 13:23 utc | 251 So, looks like Novohrodivka will have been taken in a matter of days. That will lead to the fall of Hrodivka, flanked from the east. Then on to Pokrovsk and Myrnohrad. In the south of the Pokrovsk area, Kalynove is gone and Karlivka going very soon. Let’s hope this is just the beginning. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 26 2024 13:28 utc | 253 It would be a useful humanitarian gesture if the Russians published updated lists of dead, injured and captured Western military, particularly in Kursk. Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 26 2024 13:37 utc | 254 @Posted by: canuck | Aug 26 2024 12:49 utc | 237
Ahem… Caius Iulius was nothing of the sort. He aspired for power and acted accordingly. He had many vices and many virtues and we both came to own our lives to each other, but I never recall him striving to “return the power to the people”. That was simply undoable ad had been so ever since the social wars and he knew that perfectly well. Stupid Poles have a problem. They can’t shoot down anything over their own airspace, because they lack IFF. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 13:47 utc | 256 Unlike most here, I am not interested in multipolarity or some kind of end to western hegemony Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 13:51 utc | 257 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 26 2024 10:56 utc | 193 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 26 2024 14:03 utc | 258 Is there any evidence that Ukrainians are starting to wake up to this plan? I mean NAZO’s plan to exterminate them, shit-holify their country, and make “lebensraum” for other races to move in? Posted by: vargas | Aug 26 2024 14:04 utc | 259 Its taken a few years but finally Russians seem to be waking up to the fact that there is no BRICS. India and China in particular are probably closer to enemies to her than allies. Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 14:11 utc | 260 NAFO sounding desperate now their funding has been cut. I guess they will have to deliver pizzas instead. Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 26 2024 14:25 utc | 261 Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 14:11 utc | 260 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 26 2024 14:33 utc | 262 They try to build relationships based on mutual benefit Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 14:36 utc | 263 Posted by: vargas | Aug 26 2024 14:04 utc | 259 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 14:37 utc | 264 Julius Caesar was a popularis, which obviously refers to the people. He was nephew of Marius and son-in-law of Cinna. He was suspected of conniving with Catilina and openly advocated against Cicero’s executions without trial. Caesar did redistribute some public land. Even his calendar reform took one weapon from the hands of the patricians who controlled the priesthood and could play political games by rigging the calendar. His famed clemency could be plausibly interpreted as an attempt to compromise with the nobles in the Senate, though. And near as one can tell, the most committed popularis was Clodius. Even Marcus Caelius can be argued to have been a stronger proponent. But the overall judgment that Caesar was slaughtered like the Gracchi or Saturninus or Catilina or Clodius for even advocating change, even limited change, is entirely reasonable in my view. Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 26 2024 14:37 utc | 265 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 26 2024 14:03 utc | 258 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 26 2024 14:41 utc | 266 It looks like the morning briefing at TrollTeam headquarters was less than inspiring, could it be the War news? Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 26 2024 14:45 utc | 267 The problems with modernisation of communications in Russia’s armed forces are severe enough to suggest a long running, possibly still ongoing, foreign influence and industrial sabotage campaign to keep Russian forces at a perpetual disadvantage. The question of from where, and with what motive, the erroneous opinions noted below originate, is worth expending considerable effort to answer.
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 26 2024 14:52 utc | 268 Posted by: vargas | Aug 26 2024 14:04 utc | 259 Posted by: Mario | Aug 26 2024 14:52 utc | 269 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 14:37 utc | 264 Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 26 2024 14:53 utc | 270 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 26 2024 14:41 utc | 266 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 26 2024 14:55 utc | 271 Membrum Virile@266 Don’t really think you can include Roman Britain or the successor anarchy as English history. Alfred the Great the King of the Anglo-Saxons is a plausible and convenient starting date, with Oleg the Wise equally plausible and convenient as the start of Russian history. They were both in the ninth century, not vastly separated. Can’t help quibbling, sorry. (Yes I tend to think of European feudalism as a thing from roughly 800, with the period 400 to 800 the west European Dark Ages. Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 26 2024 15:13 utc | 272 “Its taken a few years but finally Russians seem to be waking up to the fact that there is no BRICS. India and China in particular are probably closer to enemies to her than allies. Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 26 2024 15:14 utc | 273 Guest@1320 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 15:16 utc | 274 “Hopefully some serious damage and casualties in Kiev and across Ukraine with todays attacks Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 26 2024 15:17 utc | 275 Nonsense. China is behind Russia. Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 15:22 utc | 276 Posted by: Down South | Aug 26 2024 12:00 utc | 216 Posted by: Milites | Aug 26 2024 15:22 utc | 277 Posted by: Milites | Aug 26 2024 12:00 utc | 215 Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 26 2024 15:24 utc | 278 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 26 2024 14:52 utc | 268 Posted by: Milites | Aug 26 2024 15:25 utc | 279 Ghost of Zanon@1313 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 15:25 utc | 280 anon@1234 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 26 2024 15:35 utc | 281 @Posted by: Catilina | Aug 26 2024 13:44 utc | 255 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 26 2024 11:54 utc | 212 Posted by: AI | Aug 26 2024 15:39 utc | 283 Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 26 2024 14:53 utc | 270 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 15:39 utc | 284 Re Gog and Magog, if we step away from apocalyptic literature and look at history (i.e., real life). we find that Gog is Gugu in Assyrian records and Gyges in the Greek historian Herodotus. Magog is Mat-Gugu or “Gugu’s country” in Assyian records and Lydia in Herodotus. Posted by: lester | Aug 26 2024 15:50 utc | 285 The smart ones will get out of the country and go to Germany, France, or maybe the UK. The ones without the resources to escape will end up in misery. Posted by: malenkov | Aug 26 2024 15:51 utc | 286 Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 14:36 utc | 263 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 26 2024 15:53 utc | 287 Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 15:22 utc | 276 Posted by: anonposter | Aug 26 2024 16:02 utc | 288 you’re saying weird and incorrect stuff about BRICS. Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 16:03 utc | 289 Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 26 2024 15:24 utc | 278 Posted by: Milites | Aug 26 2024 16:06 utc | 290 China will ruthlessly squeeze Russia until it is weakened and impoverished and as dependent as possible, but not to the point of causing a collapse or breakup of Russia. Nothing Russia can do about this unpleasant situation except suffer through it. It’s Russia’s punishment for allow simpletons and opportunists to grab control of the USSR. Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 16:06 utc | 291
https://x.com/Navsteva/status/1828076624471867739 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 26 2024 16:18 utc | 292 @Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 26 2024 15:22 utc | 276
At the same time, China is massively ramping up renewables which will cause an increasing reduction in coal fired electricity production year over year from now on; and cap natural gas fired electricity production. Some of the growth in gas consumption recently is a move from LPG (liquefied petroleum gas) to LNG, but that is very price dependent. So it makes simple business sense for China to be looking for low prices for new pipeline gas from Russia, as China’s import dependency is actually declining and global LNG prices are falling. In any attempted Western energy embargo, China can simply ramp up the utilization of its coal fired electricity power stations to replace LNG imports. Will the West take on Russia as well by trying to block Russian LNG exports to China? Way to repopulate Ukraine is as follows. During end of war chaos, encourage Ukrainian vigilantes to unleash a wave of terror in Europe. All it takes is a tiny minority of troublemakers to give the entire Ukrainian community a bad name. Europe should be facing economic problems by then (2030 timeframe) and so Ukrainians confronted with combination of harassment from police and reduced economic opportunities will see return to Ukraine as their best option. Ukraine can facilitate this by defaulting on all debts and confiscating property owned by foreigners, then selling that property at discounts to current/former citizens and other native speakers of Ukrainian. Ukraine will be in a position to offer very low taxes and cost structure compared to Europe, so will be very attractive to entrepreneurs. Posted by: anonposter | Aug 26 2024 16:21 utc | 294 There was absolutely no way, no mechanism by which the “populus” could have wielded the “power” that would have been “restored” to it. The Roman Senate had no official status or position. It was an entirely advisory body with varying weight and prestige but no formal power in Rome herself. It could govern some proximate provinces but nothing very much more. The Republic was a deep state machine by design, run by managers. . . . from Breaking Defense Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 26 2024 16:27 utc | 296 The NAFO trolls are understandably upset today. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 26 2024 16:32 utc | 297 Posted by: lester | Aug 26 2024 15:50 utc | 285 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 26 2024 16:32 utc | 298 anonposter @ 288
Well, that is what they did to the United States. Modus operandi? 🙃 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 26 2024 16:48 utc | 299 Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 26 2024 16:27 utc | 296 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 26 2024 16:59 utc | 300 |
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