Posted by: Jerr | Aug 24 2024 3:00 utc | 649
Too bad, because I was going to ask it to point us to some examples of the tremendous contributions it has made to this forum the next time it addressed me – but probably for the best. Do you know what I mean, though? Like really – he should show us the money if he’s going to repeatedly claim credit for excellent commentary in the past (under a different handle, of course) only to have been “censored” for the sin of being so darn insightful that others were intimidated and b had to ban him lest he be upstaged.
Once the thread has been active for more than a day and comments number past the 4, 5 and 600s, it’s a little less dysfunctional to engage in this kind of drivel but you’re correct: this thread is a case study or script for a psycho-dramatic meltdown of the order rarely witnessed anymore on the Internet.
If PeterAU1 is right, we should have an eventful Saturday here in the states with news of the next steps in the Ukroids’ impending collapse while they pull off PR stunts to make headlines and prolong interest in the war – to the US elections if they get their way. Hopefully there will be a fresh Ukraine comment thread as well so we can wash the memory of this clusterfuck away. One wonders how many “new” posters will be present along with ALL CAPS whining and accusation hurling.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 3:11 utc | 604

⚡️🇷🇺🇺🇦⚔️ Situation in Key Settlements in the #Avdeyevka and #Ugledar Directions at the End of 23 August 2024⚡️
🔴In #Konstantinovka – we continue to put pressure on the enemy not only in small groups.
🟡Since the beginning of the week, we have been moving forward slowly.
🔴In #Krasnogorovka – the task at the moment is to stretch the enemy’s forces along the flanks.
🔴In #Karlovka – the positions of the AFU are disappearing before our eyes. House by house, with daily blows.
🟡The enemy’s ability to hold on is drying up before our eyes. We are clearing the boundaries we have taken.
🔴At #Kalinovo – assault groups of the RFAF are on the approach.
🔴To #Marinovka – the enemy has transferred fresh forces, trying to strengthen the defence in this settlement.
🔴To #Novogrodovka – the enemy managed to transfer fresh forces, which slightly held back our advance.
🟡The antidote is already ready – we are pulling up additional artillery.
🔴#KrutoyYar, #KrasnyYar, #Nikolayevka – there are battles in the villages, they have not yet gained a foothold, but have confidently entered the boundaries of the settlements.
🔴#Grodovka -is still formally considered to be in #Ukraine. Here the enemy carried out rotations, using residential buildings for defence.
🟡Combat work is underway. It has not yet been possible to immediately encircle #Grodovka; the pressure on the enemy is growing proportionally.
📌 The Enemy began to use the tactics of frequent rotations, giving battered units a rest and trying to transfer fresh forces. The absolute opposite of our actions. It’s worth taking a closer look.

https://t.me/sitreports/33511

Posted by: Down South | Aug 24 2024 4:18 utc | 606

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 2:49 utc | 647
This particular truthy dude seems less like a NAFO fella and more like a psycho-socially crippled attention seeker who needs to take his haldol. It’s embarrassing to see a fellow human being melt down like that, TBH. Some type of serious mental health intervention is needed and I hope he gets the medical attention he needs.
Yeah, makes sense. Maybe a real NAFO under too much pressure or otherwise conflicted to the point pf psychotic meltdown.
But maybe it is just a bot operating with incorrect power supply voltages.
Whatever, it is best ignored.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 24 2024 4:23 utc | 608

Re Down South’s quote – BlackRock and the other American owners of Ukraine ag need cheaper transport for their produce.
There’s obviously more to come in the Ukraine tv show, so it will be interesting to see how Nato go about trying to unblock the port for BlackRock.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 4:33 utc | 610

Re trolls. To my understanding that is any that come onto a forum and consistently go against the gist of the site just to get a rise out of other participants. They can be paid or not.
But in this day and age, government run troll factories are as common as Indian call centers.
The gist of b’s blog as I understand it, is anti empire and I guess pro multi-polar world.
To me, anyone comes here attacking or dumping shit on the countries that are standing up to empire is a troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 4:57 utc | 612

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 4:40 utc | 660
gree. But it’s like ignoring a train wreck happening right in front of my eyes and the whistle is bellowing my name. LOL
Probably means that you have ruffled some important alphabet agency controller scales in he wrong direction. Congratulations, but super annoying as it is, their moronic offerings should just be trashed.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 24 2024 5:10 utc | 614

I love to see that massive amount of trolls : it means they’re “winning” right ? Right ?
That’s just another weak signal , take it for what it is.
Feed them their own bullshit : something interesting might come out by accident :).

Posted by: Hiro Masamune | Aug 24 2024 7:42 utc | 616

Don Firineach | Aug 24 2024 7:53 utc | 666
Turning out to be a quiet day so far. Though I assume the Russian war machine is chirping happily away in Kursk.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 7:56 utc | 618

(638)
“THis place will never improve until and unless there is some proper Moderation and a decent Forum Software system in place. Until then it will stay fucked up.
I AM NOT THE CAUSE OF THIS DYSFUNCTIONAL PLACE – PEOPLE LIKE ME POSTING LIKE THIS ARE THE EFFECT
I am not the first – I will not be the last while incompetent losers, psychopaths, sadists and narcissists continue to run the show and have total psychological control over the Moderator. ”
YES!! Can’t agree more.
This forum/site is a perfect example how power/might/fascist conduct and mentality is used to silence dissenters and how to create the illusion that there is a “in-crowd” and an “outsider crowd”.
For further study of how Propaganda is done and how cults (pure power structures) work to understand our societies and this forums situation better.
https://orangepapers.eth.limo/orange-propaganda.html
https://orangepapers.eth.limo/orange-cult_q0.html

Posted by: Peteryourwifecalled | Aug 24 2024 8:03 utc | 620

The huge losses of the Ukrainian Armed Forces due to Zelensky’s “Kursk adventure” have increased budget expenditures on paying benefits to the families of the deceased. This alone can cost the Ukrainian budget billions of hryvnias in benefits for deaths in the Kursk region.
By the end of the year, the budget deficit may increase several times, which will lead to the collapse of the national currency and a decrease in the rate to 50 hryvnias per $ 1. Therefore, mortality figures are understated several times, the majority “go missing”.
Thus, the practice of “not taking the two-hundredths” has become extremely widespread, it is no longer possible to ignore it. It turns out that even people’s deputies are aware that this is done in order to: understate losses and prevent payments to relatives. Not only do they know this, but people’s deputies also directly say so in interviews. That is, this is not a conspiracy theory or an assumption.
By the way, relatives of Ukrainian servicemen have previously complained to European human rights activists that commanders of the dead soldiers are recording them as “missing in action” in order to avoid paying compensation and spoiling the statistics. Among the problematic ones is the already “famous” 82nd Brigade.
One of the wives of a missing serviceman says that in their brigade alone there are about 500 families who do not know what is really happening to their men. It is noteworthy that human rights activists themselves acknowledge the existing problem, noting that it was caused by the lack of communication between the authorities and relatives of Ukrainian servicemen, the lack of registers and work with the families of missing persons, etc.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/24051

Posted by: Down South | Aug 24 2024 8:19 utc | 622

Krasnoarmeysk direction.
Our troops are advancing from Nikolaevka to the north towards Novgorodovka and further south towards Mikhailovka. The Russian flag flies over Kamyshevka and Ptichye. The front line was pushed back from Yasnobrodovka to Skuchnoye, liberating the settlement.
Artemovsk direction.
At Kleshcheyevka we advanced to the bend in the Krasnoye-Kleshcheyevka road.
Seversk direction.
The paratroopers captured several enemy strongholds. The railway station is under our control.
Zaporozhye direction.
There are no significant changes throughout the entire area.
In the Novopokrovka area, equipment was burned during enemy rotation.
Dzerzhinsk direction.
In Dzerzhinsk, the AFU left the area of ​​high-rise buildings near the hospital.Part of the city is under our control.
Kursk region.
Fierce fighting continues in the area, and our military is fighting back. Our artillery is actively working, identifying and destroying the concentration of the AFU. Korenevo and the surrounding areas, as well as Malaya Loknya, are under our control. Krupets and Spalnoe are liberated from the Ukrainians.
Chasov Yar direction.
From Kalinovka we advanced to Grigorovka and drove the enemy out of the forest zone. In the Oktyabrsky microdistrict, our paratroopers are advancing and clearing out the private sector.
Kharkov direction.
Liptsevsky section.
The enemy launched an attack on Glubokoe, our soldiers repelled it.An enemy helicopter was also shot down.
Volchansk area.
In Volchansk, positional battles are taking place in the area of ​​multi-story buildings. We clear the territories from enemy. Overall, the area is relatively quiet.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/106803

Posted by: Down South | Aug 24 2024 8:23 utc | 624

pity the troll.
all the advantages and prestige of working in an Indian call-center, for minimum-wage.
At the start of each shift, the troll is handed the current list of Narrative Talking Points that should be included in their posts. “These are items you should reiterate over and over without any substantiation.”
The bit about “This call is monitored for quality control purposes.”
It’s not like they can just play pac-man for 8 hours a day. They have to log all their postings and maintain a certain level of “Yay team!” and “Your side sucks!”
pity the troll.
Like Amazon workers, they probably aren’t allowed to take bathroom breaks. Peeing in a gatorade bottle under their desk, and the omnipresent reek of stale urine are not conducive to a friendly work environment.
Then there’s the burn-out rate. So many assume the constant influx of new names is sock-puppetry, when actually it’s new troll-wannabes being brought on board to replace those who burn-out. Too many of them succumb to actual logical analysis, and start to question the drivel talking-points they’re supposed to parrot. As their productivity numbers fall, they get sh*t-canned, to be replaced by others. There are always others, as this is the last economic growth sector in the west, and everyone has to eat.
pity the troll.
Boss screaming in one ear, “Type faster!” Real world concerns – everyone has bills to pay.
Everyone would prefer an honest job, and even better one that contributes positively to society, but the job of “troll” is all that’s left, aside from being a sheep-dipped mercenary in eastern 404. When the troll’s life is this unpleasant, it’s understandable how they’re able to radiate so much vitriol.
“I wanted a real job, a decent living. Instead they will only pay me to actually be the Reason Why We Can’t Have Nice Things.” The loathing seeps inwards after a while.
pity the troll.

Posted by: retroflecks | Aug 24 2024 8:33 utc | 626

So the kursk adventure is to get the grain out

Posted by: M | Aug 24 2024 8:34 utc | 628

“But would like link/posting to drool over….thanks”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 24 2024 1:26 utc | 620
Yep, sorry about not posting some. At the time, I was just thinking out loud. This site is filled with random BRICS articles. For example, I didn’t even know So. Africa introduced a Gold Back currency lately.
Below is a highlight from one of the articles. There are othered that address “47” others that have shown interest in joining BRICS. Discusses block chain as well as “Stable Coin”.
https://watcher.guru/news/brics-currency-launch-imminent-a-financial-game-changer
“This month, Iranian officials confirmed that the country was collaborating with Russia on such a project. The BRICS expansion nation and Moscow were working together to develop one currency to be used by all member nations in unilateral trade dealings.
The group had referenced the project for much of the last year. Additionally, the creation of the BRICS Pay system has only facilitated greater intrigue in the currency’s release date. ***Therefore, it is likely that the project will be unveiled at the 2024 Annual Summit in October.***
2023’s Summit was the setting for the bloc’s monumental expansion announcement. Now, it should prove to be the place where the bloc finally announces its native currency. Furthermore, that currency should have massive implications for the global economy as a whole.
This looks like the “Official Site”
https://brics-pay.com/
Article: https://dailyhodl.com/2024/08/18/bombshell-brics-payments-platform-to-ditch-us-dollar-gaining-support-from-central-banks-finance-ministries-report/
“If it works it will be a bombshell globally, in the best sense. Perhaps it will be approved [in October], or at least the discussions will lead to a decision on when and in which format it should be finalized, meaning this is no longer just an idea, it is moving forward in practice.”
I’m guessing everything possible to make Russia “unsafe” for travelers & attendees for Summit is being done.
I remember the So. African Summit and the ICC warrant garbage, along with some kerfukle “aggression” that broke out somewhere.
Anyways, war in the Middle East, any and everything to steal limelight, discourage attendance, thwart & sabotage Summit will be done. A bombing of Kursk NPP wouldn’t surprise me a bit.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2024 8:51 utc | 630

Victor vicktop55
@vicktop55
At night, Russian SU-57 aircraft launched Kh-22 missiles at a unit of the Ukrainian GUR and foreign mercenaries who landed on Zmeiny Island. The watercraft and personnel were partially destroyed and scattered. NATO Special Operations Forces mercenaries were brought to the island by combat boats from the Romanian port of Sulina.

https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1827257438690480601

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 9:06 utc | 632

Posted by: rk | Aug 24 2024 9:09 utc | 682
India is only one member of BRICS. Turkey is not in BRICS.

Posted by: watcher | Aug 24 2024 9:22 utc | 634

I smell ukraine defeat would not so far from this thread.
Increasing hysteric troll show some sign.
Death agony.

Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 24 2024 10:00 utc | 636

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 24 2024 7:53 utc | 666
German war diaries commented how peaceful things were, just before Operation Bagration, but that they could sense something was about to happen, the deep breath before the plunge, as Tolkien put it so memorably.
Now that the Ukrainians have lost their offensive momentum in Kursk, whilst the Russians are building up theirs in the Donbas, I’d expect to see soon, echeloned attacks that have staggered timings and the introduction of a large contingent (Div/Army) of forces, after the breakthrough formations have done their job. Possibly big arrow, if the conditions are right, or the similar approach taken so far.
This is the way to introduce reserves, shape the battle space so that they can have an immediate impact, not dribs and drabbing them to maintain a faltering advance, like the Ukrainians. As another poster said, quoting the famous military maxim, only reinforce success, never failure.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 10:10 utc | 638

India is only one member of BRICS. Turkey is not in BRICS.
watcher | Aug 24 2024 9:22 utc | 683
So? What’s the connection to my post? Turkey will never be in Brics as long as they’re in Nato and US’ little bitch. The official word used was “incompatible” with Brics. But S.A. is a founding member, the “let’s arrest Putin” country

Posted by: rk | Aug 24 2024 10:20 utc | 640

Posted by: rk | Aug 24 2024 10:20 utc | 689
Turkey has expressed interest in joining BRICS and was even an observer at the SCO. Erdogan is a wily fellow. He is NOBODIES bitch. He straddles currently the most significant waterway in the current battle of NATO versus Russia. He has provided minimal support to Ukraine because he knows that if there is a full on war with Russia, Turkey will be a major target for BOTH Russia and the USA.
Currently he is under financial pressure from the west whpo hate him almost as much as they hate Putin but they dare not say it. he ,must also be furious at his fellow NATO members, especially those in the EU. he has been begging to join NATO for 20 or more years but has been blocked, presumably because Turkley is a Mulim nation. On the other hand Ukraine with all its economic woes and corruption is welcomed by many.
Erdogan knows that Turkey has no future with Europe. He is trying to build a Turkish alliance in the Caucuses.
I raised Turkey because you were talking mostly about BRICS. If a currency is established i would assume turkey with its current problems would be keen to be involved.

Posted by: watcher | Aug 24 2024 10:31 utc | 642

Posted by: Roberto | Aug 24 2024 10:17 utc | 688
Posted by: kvp | Aug 24 2024 10:20 utc | 690
Thanks, yes, that’s the singer, and I think the song fits in this thread because of all the changes we are seeing happening now. And it’s a song that deserves to be known worldwide for its sheer quality and Mercedes’ poignant voice.
I go to LatAm often because of our businesses. Actually, I’m going again to Lima and Santiago in October. Last time I was briefly in Santiago it was horrible, I saw tents of Venezuelan and Haitians in the very center of the city, close to the house of government, shitting and generally trashing the place. I hope that has changed. Of course they keep me in nice locations, Miraflores in Lima and Barrio Alto in Santiago, but I’m curious and go on my own to see places onboard local taxis.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 24 2024 10:40 utc | 644

Posted by: Roberto | Aug 24 2024 10:17 utc | 688
Posted by: kvp | Aug 24 2024 10:20 utc | 690
Johan Kaspar | Aug 24 2024 10:40 utc | 694
https://ritholtz.com/2012/11/the-gentlemans-guide-to-forum-disruption/
Technique #3 – ‘TOPIC DILUTION’
Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a ‘RESOURCE BURN.’ By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a ‘gossip mode.’ In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 24 2024 11:22 utc | 646

24.08.2024 (13:20)
Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (24 August 2024)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
In Volchansk and Liptsy directions, units of the Sever Group of Forces inflicted losses on formations of the AFU 22nd Motorised Infantry Brigade, 36th Marine Brigade, 101st, and 118th territorial defence brigades near Grabovskoye, Glukhov (Sumy region), and Volchansk (Kharkov region).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 135 troops, one German-made Marder infantry fighting vehicle, two BTR-4 Butsefal armoured personnel carriers, and six motor vehicles.
Units of the Zapad Group of Forces improved the tactical situation and inflicted losses on manpower and hardware of the AFU 14th, 44th mechanised brigades, 77th Airmobile Brigade, and 110th Territorial Defence Brigade near Petropavlovka, Kruglyakovka, Stepovaya Novosyolovka (Kharkov region), and Torskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic). Six counter-attacks launched by assault detachments of the AFU 43rd and 63rd mechanised brigades were repelled.
The AFU losses amounted to up to 520 troops, one U.S.-made M113 armoured personnel carrier, six motor vehicles, two U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzers, one UK-made 155-mm Braveheart self-propelled artillery system, two 122-mm D-30 howitzers, two UK-made 105-mm L-119 howitzers, and one Anklav-N electronic warfare station. Four AFU ammunition depots were destroyed.
Units of the Yug Group of Forces took more advantageous lines and positions and inflicted losses on manpower and hardware of the AFU 79th Air Assault Brigade, 46th Airmobile Brigade, 37th Marine Brigade, 116th, and 119th territorial defence brigades near Pereyezdnoye, Vasyukovka, Zaliznyanskoye, Katerinovka, Chasov Yar, Pleshcheyevka, Kurakhovo, and Grigorovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
One counter-attack launched by units of the AFU 5th Assault Brigade was repelled.
The AFU losses amounted to up to 690 troops, four motor vehicles, one U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzer, one 152-mm Msta-B howitzer, two 152-mm D-20 howitzers, two 122-mm D-30 howitzers, three U.S.-made 105-mm M119 howitzers, and one Anklav-N electronic warfare station. Three AFU field ammunition depots were destroyed.
Units of the Tsentr Group of Forces improved the tactical situation and inflicted losses on formations of the AFU 32nd, 53rd, 110th mechanised brigades, 25th Airborne Brigade, 111th, and 129th territorial defence brigades near Vozdvizhenka, Kirovo, Rozovka, Zelyonoye Pole, Grodovka, and Sergeyevka (Donetsk People’s Republic). Seven counter-attacks launched by units of the AFU 150th and 151st mechanised brigades were repelled.
The AFU losses amounted to more than 580 troops, one tank, two armoured fighting vehicles, eight motor vehicles, two U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzers, two 152-mm Msta-B howitzers, two 122-mm D-30 howitzers, and two 100-mm Rapira guns.
Units of the Vostok Group of Forces improved the tactical situation along the front lines and inflicted losses on manpower and hardware clusters of the AFU 72nd Mechanised Brigade and 58th Motorised Infantry Brigade near Razliv and Vodyanoye (Donetsk People’s Republic). Four counter-attacks launched by assault detachments of the AFU 5th Tank Brigade and 128th Territorial Defence Brigade were repelled.
The AFU losses amounted to up to 130 troops, one U.S.-made M113 armoured personnel carrier, one armoured fighting vehicle, eight motor vehicles, and two French-made 155-mm CAESAR howitzers.
Units of the Dnepr Group of Forces inflicted losses on formations of the AFU 35th Marine Brigade, 39th Coastal Defence Brigade, and 124th Territorial Defence Brigade near Ivanovka, Tokaryovka (Kherson region), and Malaya Tokmachka (Zaporozhye region).
The AFU losses amounted to more than 65 troops, one armoured fighting vehicle, three motor vehicles, one U.S.-made 155-mm M198 howitzer, one 122-mm D-30 howitzer, and two electronic warfare stations.
Operational-Tactical Aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces destroyed one S-125 SAM launcher, two electronic warfare stations, one POL depot, one UAV workshop, as well as engaged AFU manpower and hardware in 138 areas.
Air defence units shot down three U.S.-made ATACMS operational-tactical missiles, five French-made Hammer guided aerial bombs, 12 U.S.-made HIMARS MLRS projectiles, and 44 unmanned aerial vehicles, 16 of them outside the special military operation zone.
In total, 640 airplanes and 283 helicopters, 30,434 unmanned aerial vehicles, 575 air defence missile systems, 17,557 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,425 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 13,594 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 25,139 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 24 2024 11:31 utc | 648

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 24 2024 11:22 utc | 696
Mr. Komissar you rushed and missed my topic disruption #695.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 24 2024 11:37 utc | 650

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 24 2024 11:04 utc | 695
On a life saving course, I found out how hard water is when you hit it from a height, and that was jumping 10m off top board, clothed.
Philosophers and some clinicians have said that intuition is the process of coming to conclusions from collating sub-conscious evidence that bypasses the normal sensory apparatus. You feelsomething, not see, hear or touch it, and as a result when that intuition is questioned the response is often as equally vague as the process by which it came about. I used to fence, and even though your opponent’s face was hidden by a mask, when you became skilled, you intuitively knew what move they were most likely planning. Trouble was, they might feint, which in essence is a counter-intuitive move, the basis of deception operations aimed at deceiving at the sub-conscious level.
So, as a student of military, especially Russian, Operational Art (a Soviet term) I see the picture unfold and just sense something is going to happen soon. The Russians are creating the opening stages for several textbook operations, moving their pieces carefully on the board to position them; however they might just keep on grinding as there maybe factors that open-sources are unaware of, and that prevent them from such manoeuvres.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 12:00 utc | 652

24.08.2024 (14:15)
Russian Defence Ministry report on repelling an invasion attempt of the AFU on the territory of the Russian Federation (24 August 2024)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to repel an AFU attempt to invade the territory of the Russian Federation.
Over the past 24 hours, units of the Sever Group of Forces supported by Army Aviation and artillery fire repelled attacks launched by the enemy’s assault detachments in the direction of Borki, Spalnoye, Cherkasskoye Porechnoye, and Malaya Loknya.
The AFU attempts to launch attacks in the direction of Komarovka and Kremyanoye were thwarted.
The AFU losses amounted to more than 60 troops killed and wounded. In addition, one tank, seven armoured fighting vehicles, and two motor vehicles were destroyed. Ten AFU servicemen surrendered.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue reconnaissance and search operations to locate and eliminate the enemy small sabotage and reconnaissance groups attempting to get to the depth of the Russian territory.
Army Aviation and artillery strikes and actions of troops inflicted losses on manpower and hardware clusters of the AFU 22nd, 61st, 115th mechanised brigades, 82nd Air Assault Brigade, and 1st National Guard Brigade near Apanasovka, Vishnyovka, Borki, Krasnooktyabrsky, Kruglenkoye, Mikhaylovka, Lyubimovka, Malaya Loknya, Plekhovo, Snagost, and Yuzhny.
Operational-Tactical Aviation delivered strikes at the enemy’s reserves in concentration areas of manpower and hardware of the AFU 41st, 54th, and 61st mechanised brigades, 82nd Air Assault Brigade, 103rd, 106th, 119th, 129th territorial defence brigades, 1st and 17th national guard brigades near Atinskoye, Glukhov, Druzhba, Zhuravka, Zapseliye, Kalinov, Novaya Sloboda, Pervomayskoye, Pavlovka, Sadki, Svessa. Sumy, Surovatka, Chuikova, and Yampol.
Over the past 24 hours, the AFU losses amounted to more than 360 troops and 29 units of hardware including two tanks, three infantry fighting vehicles, two armoured personnel carriers, 22 armoured fighting vehicles, two artillery guns, 12 motor vehicles, one Bukovel-AD electronic warfare stations, and one counter-battery warfare station.
Since the beginning of hostilities in Kursk region, the AFU losses amounted to more than 5,500 troops, 71 tanks,
30 infantry fighting vehicles, 57 armoured personnel carriers, 372 armoured fighting vehicles, 170 motor vehicles, 36 artillery guns, five SAM launchers, 11 MLRS launchers, including three of HIMARS system and one of MLRS system, seven electronic warfare stations, one counter-battery warfare station, four units of engineering vehicles, including two counterobstacle vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearing vehicle.
The operation to neutralise the AFU units is in progress.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 24 2024 12:11 utc | 654

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 9:06 utc | 681
Tu-22m’s more like, the Kh-22 is an ASM from the 60’s that is over half the length of the Su-57 and weighs nearly 6 tonnes! If it was a Kitchen (nice pun-newbie) it would have probably been aimed at the raid’s support ships, as a carrier-killer v rigid raiders and assault craft is probably not the best weapon to use.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 12:27 utc | 656

Milites@702…..the Russia’s just discovered that they won’t be getting Kursk area back any time soon. If Russia has any surprise outside of nuclear then they should have used it. No offence intended, but big Russian moves in the SlogMow are the stuff screen writers dream of……and erstwhile posters on MOA
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 24 2024 12:40 utc | 658

Johan Kaspar@708…..you are a very lucky man Johan Kaspar, you can wait, time in on your side, even if takes……how long Johan, you are not there dying.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 24 2024 12:56 utc | 660

#703…boze moj..zachran nas od vsetkeho zleho….I wander if Zelensky will find …OLEG SOSKIN(pres.Kuchma advisor)a sent him to Kursk uplift sagging morale of ukr. soldiers…

Posted by: sejmon | Aug 24 2024 13:34 utc | 662

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 19:07 utc | 518
No state fighting for its survival would have dared to undertake such a wastefull action with a completely unclear perspective as Kursk – which, at first and second glance, can have no decisive effect on the war.
Only someone who can rely on his allies to always save him when his existence is at stake can afford this.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 24 2024 13:52 utc | 664

Consult your local blowhard for details.
https://t.me/dva_majors/50547

Press Service of the Supreme Commander :
In one of the command posts of the Ministry of Defense, the Supreme Commander held a meeting with the leadership of the United Group of Forces and received reports from the Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov and the Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff Sergei Rudskoy on countering the enemy forces that invaded the territory of the Kursk Region and the measures taken to destroy them, as well as on the current results of the special military operation.
In a telephone communication, the head of state heard reports from the commanders of the troop groups on the operational situation in the areas entrusted to them.
✨Too bad there’s no sound. The Supreme Commander was saying something emotional.

https://t.me/dva_majors/50556

^^^^ Forwarded from Roman Alekhine
Vladimir Putin received the report of Chief of General Staff Gerasimov on the situation in Kursk Oblast.
The video is without sound, but a lot is clear from the President’s facial expression. I saw in his facial expressions both distrust of what he heard and discontent, because perhaps what he heard did not coincide with what the Supreme Commander knows from other channels. The answer was very emotional – I agree with comrade Majors .
I think that without sound because we would have heard the report of the Chief of General Staff and would have made the same faces as the Supreme Commander and we would have had the same expressions as he did.
Maybe he asked a question: Comrade Gerasimov, what about communications in the Kursk direction? And he answered him: Comrade Supreme Commander, our commanders have “Azharty” from the battalion there, and at the tactical level communications are not needed – they have nothing to chat about there? Well, and then from the facial expressions of the Supreme Commander…

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 24 2024 14:16 utc | 666

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2024 13:23 utc | 712
30 seconds of interwebbing results in this possible reason why they don’t want to drop 500-1500 kg bombs on Russian residential areas.
https://unsaferguard.org/un-saferguard/explosion-danger-area
The MSM are aging courtesans, endlessly prattling about past clients, whilst trying to hide the fact that the ever-more garish make up they wear is not reducing the growing queues outside the younger, more attractive New Media’s doors.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 14:35 utc | 668

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 24 2024 14:16 utc | 717
Lots of possible interpretations for his facial expressions and body language. Any Russian lip-readers?

Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 14:39 utc | 670

They may not though, as I said, but the crucial point is they still have it as an option, or tool in the box, something Ukraine does not possess. Operational superiority can simply be translated into the ability to have more realistic and practical options than your opponent. It does not mean that you have to exercise these options, but as the situation changes, those unused options might be considered feasible once more.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 14:17 utc | 718
And if the news about Chernihiv are to be trusted then it’s starting to be too expensive a decoy to cover a full AFU retreat.
Z has probably committed too many troops, too far from the dnieper , to save anything capable of holding the river…
Gradually, then suddenly…

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 14:44 utc | 672

Re: Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 14:44 utc | 723

Z has probably committed too many troops, too far from the dnieper , to save anything capable of holding the river…
Gradually, then suddenly…

I’ve heard this ” Gradually, then suddenly…” stuff for 2 years by now!

Posted by: Julian | Aug 24 2024 15:06 utc | 674

For Ukraine, Kursk was like a nice loaf of fresh bread and an assortment of fresh fruit.
Unfortunately for them, the loaf is now stale and a little moldy. The fruit is full of decay. This is what happens when blitzkreig gets stalemated.
The other talk about offensives near Kherson and elsewhere are stupid. Russia would know they’re coming. It would be suicide.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 24 2024 15:16 utc | 676

The MSM are aging courtesans, endlessly prattling about past clients, whilst trying to hide the fact that the ever-more garish make up they wear is not reducing the growing queues outside the younger, more attractive New Media’s doors.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 14:35 utc | 712
Bravo. Exquisitely stated.
BTW. appreciating your posts based on your military insights. Cheers.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 24 2024 15:20 utc | 678

Did three trucks explode in Poland or was it just a false story?
Posted by: Jerr | Aug 24 2024 1:00 utc | 606
On telegram, I saw pics of some destroyed “something” …. So, possibly/ “highly likely”.
You won’t see it widely reported in western msm… it destroys the myth/narrative that everyone EU is “with Ukraine”/ and, it’ll encourage copycats,

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 24 2024 15:39 utc | 680

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 24 2024 1:00 utc | 606
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 24 2024 15:39 utc | 724
There’s an outline of the events here: https://en.topwar.ru/248564-teper-i-v-polshe-sgoreli-neskolko-gruzovikov-s-voennoj-produkciej-dlja-vsu.html

Residents of the surrounding villages of Aleksandrovice (Aleksandrov) and Muravits report about the detonation of ammunition, which occurred over the course of two hours, and corresponding videos are also published.

I’ve not seen anything debunking it.
1 truck = happenstance
2 trucks = coincidence
3 trucks = enemy action…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 24 2024 16:01 utc | 682

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 14:44 utc | 716
BTG’s instead of brigades is a pretty good indicator of the state of things.
Posted by: Julian | Aug 24 2024 15:06 utc | 718
You’ve obviously never hunted anything!
Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 15:20 utc | 721
As you know, at least inferred from my early estimate of a bigger force, I’m not sure if they are BTGs or plain understaffed full brigades. Time will tell, many more renowned sources went for the 8.000 strong BTGs scenario, but casualties so far would say otherwise IMHO.
If you don’t mind I’ll also use this answer to comment on 718, usually I don’t feed them but (and you can feel free to correct any error you spot on my reasoning) this might be interesting for reall people who want to understand.
2022, the means were short (I would say that 10:1 ,army size ratio, is a reasonable evaluation for autumn 2022), RF had to shorten the lines, abandon impossible logistics in kherson and basically hold the line and do an urgent mobilization.
2023 Things were still too lopsided, RF used conscripts and the musicians to pin the AFU in Bakhmut while it prepared an overkill of defense lines as they knew that if the spear point broke the line they’d be fighting with a 3:1-2:1 disadvantage.
2024 after exchanging at very very favorable ratios (during the AFU 2023 counter attack) and continuing its steady recruitment+training+rotating for experience, RF finally reached near parity and started a more expensive but steady but generally favorable prudent advance. I think that there was the hope of finishing off then but the exchange ratio was not good enough to allow a sustained fight until AFU ran out of meat.
2024 current. As the drive to break the fortresses and defense lines reach a climax, and AFU attacks (or feints) RF in the north…. Even RF probably doesn’t know for sure what is the current gameplay, so will likely play it safe until AFU is routed.
2025 If we get there it means that either AFU used the north offensive as a decoy for a massive retreat (and loses 40% of its territory in record time), or Z was able to make the high school draft without being hanged or it won’t survive past february.Either way there is no 2026 without massive nato boots on the ground.
my 2 kopeks

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 16:08 utc | 684

*******In other words the ferry explosion is in a way almost as sensational as would be a disabling strike to the Kerch Bridge but without the prestige value it has for the Putin administration.
********
Sewaerd @ 717
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I don’t know who Col Lang is but targets have strategic value and tactical value, or are targets of opportunity
The notion of a target’s “prestige value” is psy-op bs. If a ferry is sunk its value is based on the ferry and cargo’s value from a tactical operational perspective. They are both readily replaceable in short term. A hit on the Kerch Bridge has strategic value because it destroys a major unique supply and transportation capability (whether it’s being used now or not) and its value is stategic.
Prestige value is a term used by marionette ass kissers. If you can take out a strategic asset do it; don’t waste a multimillion dollar and scarce missle on a delivery vehicle.

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 24 2024 16:19 utc | 686

⚡️ 🇷🇺 Kursk Bulge, operational situation 24.08, 16:45.
What is known at the moment:
In the Kursk region, fighting continues in all directions. The Russian army is holding back the onslaught of the Ukrainian occupiers, destroying enemy columns ;
▪️In Korenevsky district, the enemy does not give up attempts to break through to the district center, as well as to the settlement of Komarovka, as the day before. However, the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not achieve success in these areas of the front;
▪️Western resources have published satellite images of the Kursk region, which show freshly dug trenches of the Russian army in the area of ​​Kurchatov and Lgov;
❗️In the Sudzhansky district , drone operators from the Aida group took on the job of destroying Ukrainian armored vehicles . The fighters are burning Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers both in Sudzha itself and in the suburbs.
The enemy continues to try to break through the defenses of the Russian army in the area of ​​Russkaya Konopelka.
According to the statement of the commander of the special forces “Akhmat” Apti Alaudinov , “down below” [in the south] units of the 810th Marine Brigade liberated another settlement. It is possible that this refers to the settlement of Borki, which follows Spalnoye, which was liberated the day before;
▪️The Russian Emergencies Ministry continues to carry out tasks in the Kursk region. The population is being evacuated , unexploded ordnance is being cleared , and humanitarian aid is being delivered;
Russian aviation , X-wing aircraft and artillery continue to strike at the rear and columns of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, destroying their air defense posts, weapons depots, command posts, equipment and personnel.

https://t.me/two_majors/30247

Posted by: Down South | Aug 24 2024 16:37 utc | 688

Eighthman @ 720

The other talk about offensives near Kherson and elsewhere are stupid. Russia would know they’re coming. It would be suicide.

There’s some buzz on TG about upcoming assaults on the Kinburn Spit area and the estuaries there. Not my purview but I think an amphibious assault and the necessary logistics on one or various soggy boggy empty islands would be an order of magnitude more challenging clusterfuck worthy than Kursk. Six months to nowhere and 1000 dead in Krynki and it was just a probing operation? If at first you don’t succeed… I blame the UK.

UPDATE Tomorrow the Ukrainian Armed Forces will try to land on the Tendrivska and Kinburnska spits in the Kherson region from the Black Sea and the Dnieper-Bug estuary
Kherson Oblast Governor Volodymyr Saldo reported that he has received information about the accumulation of military equipment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the aim of conducting an offensive operation from the Black Sea in the Kherson direction. Among those prepared are a large number of unmanned boats, assault boats and helicopters.
Saldo stated that the enemy would again attempt to land from the Black Sea and the Dnieper-Bug estuary on the Tendrivska and Kinburnska spits with one goal – to plant flags there and show the West that they had allegedly consolidated their positions on the territory of the Kherson region.
NATO special operations forces are coordinating the operation.
“As always, a symbolic date was chosen for the provocation, this time – Ukraine’s Independence Day ,” Saldo said.
“>https://t.me/ZandVchannel/124979

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Speaking of blaming the UK, the flop sequel “Return To Snake Island” coming soon to theaters everywhere:

At night, our SU-57s launched X-22 missiles at a unit of the GUR of Ukraine and foreign mercenaries who landed on Zmeiny Island. The boats and personnel were partially destroyed and scattered.
NATO Special Operations Forces mercenaries were brought to the island by combat boats from the Romanian port of Sulina.
“>https://t.me/ZandVchannel/124979

If this is true and the force departed from Romania then Romania is now in the SMO, that base should be hit, but Russia won’t.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 24 2024 16:40 utc | 690

❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 On the Possible Offensive of the AFU in the Zaporizhzhia Direction
Over the past few weeks, there have been ongoing rumors in the media about the plans of Ukrainian formations on other parts of the front, in addition to the Russian border area. One of them could be the Zaporizhzhia direction, where the Ukrainian command has long been forming a strike force and saturating the units deployed there with fire support assets, including drones.
▪️One of the most likely scenarios for AFU actions should be considered an offensive by the enemy in the vicinity of Kamianske. It is to the north of it, in the area of Prymorske-Stepnohirsk, that the accumulation of the future attacking grouping is observed, the target of which, according to our data, may be both Tokmak with a further attempt to cut the land route to Crimea, and Enerhodar with the subsequent capture of the ZNPP.
▪️Several signs, both direct and indirect, indicate the enemy’s plans. Satellite reconnaissance is actively working in the interests of the AFU, photographing potential air defense positions and command posts of the Russian Armed Forces. At the same time, identical points of the enemy are also photographed in order to check camouflage.
▪️At the same time, Ukrainian formations have increased both the intensity of shelling and the use of drones, including against Enerhodar and nearby settlements. In addition to this, the enemy strikes at forest belts, dugouts and shelters, preparing the ground for further advancement.
▪️The Ukrainian authorities are also preparing the information background for the further capture of the ZNPP, which is manifested both in accusations of alleged arson on the territory of the facility and in statements by the president of the so-called Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy about the need to return the station.
❗️At the same time, the plans of the enemy, which have been discussed for some time, to land a landing on the Kinburn and Tendra spits, are by no means the invention of guard-patriots. Moreover, quite official persons have also started talking about them.
Ukrainian formations are seriously considering a combined operation to land troops by boats simultaneously with strikes by USVs and UAVs, as well as the landing of recon groups by helicopter.
🔻While AFU units continue to participate in the “Kursk adventure” and prepare for activation in the same Zaporizhzhia region, the operational crisis of the AFU is aggravating in the Pokrovske and Oleksandro-Kalinove directions. Nevertheless, despite the suicidal nature of the implemented plans, the Ukrainian command is ready to go all-in – they need both a media victory and a way to turn the tide of the conflict.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17207

Posted by: Down South | Aug 24 2024 16:44 utc | 692

The Ukrainian Army has destroyed three bridges on the Seim River and plans to take control of a vast territory in the Kursk region – the Glushkovsky district, where about 3,000 Russian troops may be trapped.
The Glushkovsky district is surrounded by Ukrainian territory from the west and south. From the east (from the Sudzha side), the Ukrainian Armed Forces are conducting offensive operations there, having established control over the villages of Snagost and Apanasovka. They are 5 km away from the Seim River and the closure of the cauldron.
Despite the destruction of bridges across the Seim, the Russians are still supplying their troops via pontoon crossings built across the river (especially since the river is not that wide and is quite easy to swim across). And Ukraine is actively attacking pontoons built by the Russian Armed Forces across the Seim River in the Glushkovsky district. For this, both kamikaze drones and Himars cluster munitions are used. This is being done in order to block the supply of Russian troops and take the troops there into a “cauldron”. Apparently, in the near future there will be at least attempts by the Ukrainian Armed Forces to attack in this area
In general, the situation in the Glushkovsky district south of the Seim River is difficult for the Russian army (including due to logistical problems).

https://t.me/the_military_analytics/20444

Our source in the General Staff said that the offensive deep into Russia has stopped and Syrsky has decided to expand the bridgehead to the width of the border by capturing the Glushkovsky district in the Kursk region.
The commander-in-chief is trying to solve two problems at once: first, to take control of large territories of Russia from a natural line of defense with a river, which will then be easy to hold, and second, to expand the bridgehead of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk region to protect the flanks.
Now all reserves and equipment are being sent for this purpose, but the enemy has been repelling our assaults all week, and the Ukrainian Armed Forces are suffering heavy losses.

https://t.me/rezident_ua/24059

Posted by: Down South | Aug 24 2024 16:47 utc | 694

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 16:08 utc | 728
It’s always tricky to categorise a depleted unit, does it still retain its official designation, for example brigade, or do you use a hybrid term such as reinforced battalion; however, that in itself is an official designation of a unit that has additional units attached to help it to achieve a specific combat mission. I think a prefix, such as under-strength, better captures the true capabilities of such units, perhaps with addition and subtraction suffixes, if possible. This is the standard format used by most historical accounts. Eg the reinforced 2nd battalion, minus No2 company….., but obviously that relies on specific intelligence unavailable to us today.
There also is a point to be made about understrength infantry units, often these have the same ranged firepower as full strength units, due to their retention of the same number of casualty creators (MG’s, support weapons), but, unless in defence, less ammo, and more fragile (ability to absorb casualties). So, understrength, late-War German companies, with only one out of three platoons, would still retain those missing platoons 6+MG-42 LMG’s and MP-44 assault rifles.
As to your analysis, I agree overall, but remember the link between operational tempo and logistics, and rates of advance with constantly operating factors such as terrain and weather. Both the former and the later being synergistic.
Final point, some posters fail to understand that the worst thing a commander can do is send his troops into a fair fight, Russia now has the organic capability to make sure this fight is so unfair it can possibly look at options that were previously far too fair for their opponents. If it goes beyond ‘24 it will be interesting to find out which factors were responsible.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 16:54 utc | 696

One of the Nazis from Azovstal, Igor Dubik, who was exchanged in 2022, was eliminated.
The character again found himself at the front as part of the 109th Volkssturm Brigade and this time he was unlucky enough to be captured.

This shows how capturing them extends the war as they will be back fighting in a few months.

Russia has returned 115 servicemen captured in the Kursk region from Ukrainian captivity, and 115 Ukrainian Armed Forces servicemen have been transferred in exchange – Russian Defense Ministry

Some here were saying that the Kursk captives would be killed. Nope. They need them to exchange for the 900 Russian soldiers captured in the first days of the invasion.

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 24 2024 17:16 utc | 698

Posted by: Down South | Aug 24 2024 16:44 utc | 736
Before Desert Storm a USMC colonel went out to the desert, on the eve of battle, and said this paraphrased prayer.
Lord, I thank you for giving myself and the men I command the opportunity of any warrior
to practice the skill of arms, that we have trained for so long to do and I thank you that our opponents are so stupid.
I think, if this, Tokmak or bust II, plan is put into action, a Russian version of the prayer will no doubt be being said in many TOC’s.
Also, where’s all this Ukrainian OPSEC discipline we keep hearing about?
Posted by: Down South | Aug 24 2024 16:50 utc | 739
Rubbish! It was a clever plan because the Russians were surprised, they never expected us to be so fucking stupid!

Posted by: Milites | Aug 24 2024 17:21 utc | 700