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August 22, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-200
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Don’t poke the Russian bear. It will not end well for you. Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 23 2024 20:07 utc | 501 I wonder if it bothers the nazi clown posse that a bunch of pissed up nobodies in an internet bar next door to the rub and tug and a 24 hour laundromat have, on the whole, more strategic nous and far more profound and insightful commentary than their entire fucking braintrust. It’s the garbage-in, garbage-out principle at work. It’s also scary just how much of our tax dollars is being directed into ‘controlling the narrative’. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 20:18 utc | 502 It’s also scary just how much of our tax dollars is being directed into ‘controlling the narrative’. Posted by: Hunsdon | Aug 23 2024 20:24 utc | 503 “Posted by: Roger | Aug 23 2024 18:19 utc | 508” Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 20:28 utc | 504 As Milites wrote, any surprise attack if measured the way you did would be ‘clever’ regardless of operational impacts. Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 23 2024 20:29 utc | 505
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 20:18 utc | 537 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 20:30 utc | 506 Ritter doesn’t have any more info than what’s publicly available, and he has been wrong countless times already. Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 23 2024 20:48 utc | 507 Payback in the hybrid war? Argentina for Bangladesh? Or just oil fuckery? Rising prices helps Russia. If the spice stops flowing we are all fucked, in many ways, but mostly if it ever happens the great houses all turn on each other and the Emperor goes out the window – Maybe that’s the multipolar world??? Spice fuckery ushers it in? It’ll be ugly.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 20:49 utc | 508 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 9:41 utc | 421 Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 20:51 utc | 509 Posted by: Down South | Aug 23 2024 17:40 utc | 501 Posted by: Milites | Aug 23 2024 20:57 utc | 510 The US cannot print artillery and shells, but it can print cash to pay for something that America has an endless supply of: college grads with degrees in the university equivalent of special education. Majors in journalism, gender studies, business administration, and so on, in which the only skill the students master is bullshitting their way through a brief five page paper every couple months, are useless to humanity, but they do prepare the students to spam the Internet for food. Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 23 2024 20:58 utc | 511 Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 20:28 utc | 539 Posted by: scc | Aug 23 2024 21:05 utc | 512 Activist Potato @ 542 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 21:06 utc | 513 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 20:30 utc | 541 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 23 2024 21:13 utc | 514 США должны немедленно прекратить любое официальное взаимодействие с Тайванем. Этот вопрос является “первой красной линией” в китайско-американских отношениях. Об этом заявил пресс-секретарь посольства КНР в Вашингтоне Лю Пэнъюй. Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 23 2024 21:13 utc | 515 Posted by: anonposter | Aug 22 2024 20:15 utc | 216 Posted by: Naive | Aug 23 2024 21:14 utc | 516 These NAFO bros don’t understand what the Siloviki are as there is no corollary in the West. Posted by: Naive | Aug 23 2024 21:21 utc | 517
Posted by: ? | Aug 23 2024 21:31 utc | 518 Passerby | Aug 23 2024 18:34 utc | 512 Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 23 2024 21:31 utc | 519 Posted by: Biggus Dickus | Aug 23 2024 21:13 utc | 549 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 21:32 utc | 520 Posted by: james | Aug 23 2024 17:22 utc | 500 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 23 2024 21:34 utc | 521
Posted by: ? | Aug 23 2024 21:44 utc | 522 Late for me now so signing out, just in case there’s an infection of name-jacking. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 21:45 utc | 523 Why do I feel that Russia, this time, has a surprise up its sleeve? Can’t put my finger on it, but something’s stirring somewhere. Posted by: Milites | Aug 23 2024 21:50 utc | 524 What is “real GDP”? Is that the opposite of the “not real GDP” in the West? Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 23 2024 21:55 utc | 525 @ William Gruff | Aug 23 2024 20:58 utc | 546 Posted by: james | Aug 23 2024 22:06 utc | 526 Charlie Brown is now a MoA ‘Russophile’:
I find this amusing. Damn you and your filthy logic eh? NAFO are like Don Quixote, but far less amusing. A more precise person might call them disinformation agents, or more specifically anti-intellectual fascists. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 22:12 utc | 528 They get “search warrants” just for harassment purposes all the time, don’t even get warrants sometimes just bust in saying they are doing a wellness check, and apparently they found no classified documents or the like. Posted by: Samu | Aug 23 2024 22:13 utc | 529 @564, Posted by: paddy | Aug 23 2024 22:29 utc | 530 An explanation regarding the Kherson Dniper islands, estuary, spit assaults, there aren’t many explanations for these odd suicide landings except for maybe PR, which is what makes this interesting:
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 22:31 utc | 531 In contrast to the many trolls here, I find it interesting that the reaction to Kursk is so different from Ukraine’s past counteroffensive. There is doubt and disbelief all over the West. Published articles take on a muted tone – sort of, ‘well, yeah great….but’. Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 23 2024 22:32 utc | 532 From the Ukie channel. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 22:35 utc | 533 Breaking. According to Ukrainian channel Deepstate, drone operators are now being used as infantry in the Pokrovsk front. Talk about self-cannibalization, the end is near… Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 22:35 utc | 534 Eighthman @ 568
Oh good, maybe they’ll take their thousands of tons of weapons and wunderwaffen, 80 foot containers of money, and army of sheep dipped all-American neo-Nazi assholes and go home. Yes, I’m being very sarcastic. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 22:42 utc | 535 I should have put that 569 in blockquote ….. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 23:01 utc | 536 The oil never stopped exporting from Russia. It stopped going to the German refinery. The black sea tankers are not global tankers. The oil gets transferred off the coast of Greece now to global tankers. It goes to India and China at a discount. Posted by: Dogowoof | Aug 23 2024 23:15 utc | 537 Kurst looks to be settling into a new cuisines as usual – destruction of Nato proxies at a very fast rate. Posted by: Naive | Aug 23 2024 23:16 utc | 538 Posted by: scc | Aug 23 2024 21:05 utc | 547 Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 23:17 utc | 539 Posted by: Dogowoof | Aug 23 2024 23:15 utc | 573 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 23:30 utc | 540 Posted by: Dogowoof | Aug 23 2024 23:15 utc | 573 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 23:30 utc | 541 What is wrong with Russian people?? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2024 23:33 utc | 542 Naive | Aug 23 2024 23:16 utc | 574 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 23:33 utc | 543 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI7BwKYbpWo Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 23 2024 23:41 utc | 544 Poor fellow…He gives away his “non-russianess,” by his impatience to kill. Posted by: donten | Aug 23 2024 23:44 utc | 545 580 directed at: Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 23:17 utc | 575 Posted by: donten | Aug 23 2024 23:48 utc | 546 I find it odd why non-Russians on this forum are so vehemently in favour of the Russian government and attack with such venom anyone who criticises their actions. Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 23 2024 23:56 utc | 547 >> But being in possession of a working brain, I can’t help but notice Russia is losing this one. Posted by: ivanislav | Aug 24 2024 0:03 utc | 548
https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1826970170826326370 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:07 utc | 549 Haha, I’m a ‘bot’. Yes. everyone is a bot who criticies the glorious mother Russia. Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:07 utc | 550 I wish MI6 or whoever would pay me more as [glancing at the clock] I have to log off to do my real job. Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:14 utc | 551 evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:14 utc | 586 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:18 utc | 552 The Ukrainian army lost roughly 16,155 troops in battles with Russian forces in all the frontline areas over the week, according to the latest data on the special military operation in Ukraine released by Russia’s Defense Ministry. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 0:19 utc | 553 Whatever Peter. You are clearly a sad, little man. Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:20 utc | 554 oh, don’t ask why Posted by: Montazumas revenge | Aug 24 2024 0:20 utc | 555 Hey Newbie, Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:23 utc | 557 Even in my lost of a clear mind (my dementia), I am able to recognize the universal value of this song: Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 0:28 utc | 558 August 24th is Independence day in Ukraine and Kiev is expected to launch a number of attacks many of which will occur in the Black Sea against Kherson and Crimea. Posted by: Richard L | Aug 24 2024 0:29 utc | 559 Haha, I’m a ‘bot’. Yes. everyone is a bot who criticies the glorious mother Russia. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 0:31 utc | 560 Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 0:31 utc | 595 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:34 utc | 561 I think everything possible and the rampage of the West, including another slew of new 100s of sanctions introduced today, tells me the West/The US treasury is in panic over October BRICS. Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2024 0:36 utc | 562 @Tom_Q_Collins Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:36 utc | 563 Posted by: Milites | Aug 23 2024 21:50 utc | 560 Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 24 2024 0:44 utc | 564 Richard L | Aug 24 2024 0:29 utc | 594
Now to wait and see what tomorrow brings. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:46 utc | 565 This “obscure blog of no importance” has been referenced by former NATO weapons inspectors (plural – in two theaters/conflicts), is cited almost daily at a number of other popular blogs -including multiple written by former intelligence agents and officials, well known economists and former members of civil government, attracts renowned researchers, journalists and analysts (commenting under pen names most of the time) and is apparently very much on the radar of the NATO and NAFO/OFAN folks as it has been for some time. Not long ago, but well before the start of Russia’s SMO, regular contributors to sites like The Guardian would comment here (almost always in contrarian fashion similar to the present crop of much less interesting trolls – See: Libya and Maidan themed entries), often under their own names. I, however, won’t be naming any names, however, because our trolls and shills have already demonstrated a degree of ‘social engineering’ and the fact that they try to goad those of us who have witnessed all of the above into correcting the record on MoA’s reach, worldwide, is testament enough to their knowledge of the truth. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 0:49 utc | 566 Better leaved 1000 criminals without a just process than condemned an innocent for a while… In an unjust process. Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 0:52 utc | 567 “What is your nationality? Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 0:55 utc | 568 Personally I have trouble believing anyone is paid for writing a version of poopoo on the internet. Posted by: Polli | Aug 24 2024 0:55 utc | 569 Accusations of paid trolling by “hostile foreign powers” are virtually textbook NATO information space doctrine. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 0:57 utc | 570 I recall reading a post several days past that three trucks carrying supplies on a highway in Poland on the way to an airport outside Krakow just suddenly exploded. Posted by: Jerr | Aug 24 2024 1:00 utc | 571 Polli | Aug 24 2024 0:55 utc | 604 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:01 utc | 572 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:46 utc | 600 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 573 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:46 utc | 600 Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 574 Wall Street Journal on the tinfoil hat conspiracy of paid/coordinated/”grass roots” online trolling: https://archive.ph/JMIxn Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:06 utc | 577 Why trolling can be an effective means of disrupting online commentary:
And that is why we shouldn’t feed the trolls. Over and out. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:09 utc | 578 Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 610 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:09 utc | 579 Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 610 Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:10 utc | 580 Don’t you like the music? Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:11 utc | 581 Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:11 utc | 617 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:13 utc | 582 I’m sure that someone will recognize this: Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:21 utc | 583 @ Trubind1 | Aug 24 2024 0:36 utc | 597 with the rumor but no link of BRICS+ neutron bomb in October of parts of new global finance structure…thanks Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 24 2024 1:26 utc | 584 Currently close to 4.30 AM of the 24th in Kiev – ‘independence’ day. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:31 utc | 585 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:31 utc | 622 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 1:38 utc | 586 Ritter’s tolerable, he gets good guy cred, he really needs a little editor on his shoulder with something sharp to poke with. He’s gotten a little better past year, more level, I assume mood stabilizers. Anyway, even at his best he repeats himself, over and over and over, all the youtube regulars do. Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:39 utc | 587 Easy. Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:41 utc | 588 that you and I (I assume you are a prol like me) Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:43 utc | 589 The SOTT article was a repost of now defunct Washington’s Blog, a well known US politics site from the peak of the blogoverse during the Bush and Obama years. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:47 utc | 590 “I have contributed enormously to this forum…” Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:49 utc | 591 Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:41 utc | 626 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:51 utc | 592 So the UAF big bang is supposedly scheduled for the 24th in Crimea and Kherson? Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 24 2024 1:52 utc | 593 HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 1:38 utc | 623 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:53 utc | 594 How did the UAF push to capture the Kursk NPP work out anyway Bojo? Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 24 2024 1:55 utc | 595 Although Dima is good. He’s not that good. He makes thought-provoking speculations which add a different dimension to the battle maps he produces. Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:55 utc | 596 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:46 utc | 600 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 1:57 utc | 597 Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:55 utc | 634 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 2:02 utc | 598 “Do you actually believe I’m being paid by Western stupidity services to post…” Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 24 2024 2:07 utc | 599 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:47 utc | 628 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 24 2024 2:15 utc | 600 |
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