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August 22, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-200

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Don’t poke the Russian bear. It will not end well for you.
Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 23 2024 19:50 utc | 530
The German population knows this, only the US dependent government and its media have to claim otherwise. Unfortunately, they don’t have to worry about any consequences if things turn out badly for us.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 23 2024 20:07 utc | 501

I wonder if it bothers the nazi clown posse that a bunch of pissed up nobodies in an internet bar next door to the rub and tug and a 24 hour laundromat have, on the whole, more strategic nous and far more profound and insightful commentary than their entire fucking braintrust. It’s the garbage-in, garbage-out principle at work. It’s also scary just how much of our tax dollars is being directed into ‘controlling the narrative’.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 20:18 utc | 502

It’s also scary just how much of our tax dollars is being directed into ‘controlling the narrative’.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 20:18 utc | 537
Narrative control is about all the West has left, I think.

Posted by: Hunsdon | Aug 23 2024 20:24 utc | 503

“Posted by: Roger | Aug 23 2024 18:19 utc | 508”
Interesting idea. Removing Brazil with Bangladesh: however, I think that Tajikstan, which is committing terrorism in Russia should be viewed with a critical eye.
“Posted by: scc | Aug 23 2024 18:12 utc | 507″
That’s the reason I and many others are still alive.
I thank VVP to be cool blooded and moving with caution.”

I don’t think the lives of Russians are any less important than yours. I am sure this “saving of lives” in Europe and Ukraine is very popular in the “Europe and Ukraine”, but you forget that he is President of Russia, and as such, he is responsible for saving Russians first.
Your life is not that important!!! Is it???!!!!

Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 20:28 utc | 504

As Milites wrote, any surprise attack if measured the way you did would be ‘clever’ regardless of operational impacts.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 14:26 utc | 478
Yes, I am waiting to see if “clever” persists over time as an adjective to describe the so-called “surprise” attack in Kursk. For such a “surprise,” it has yet to yield anything resembling a strategic advantage for the Ukraine. We shall see, I guess…
A “surprise” in this context carries the implication that it could be as dumb as it is ingenious. A rational opponent would not expect a move to open up a new front when other fronts are crumbling, therefore it could certainly be a “surprise.” Yet, it would appear, that the Russians hedged their bets on Ukrainian stupidity and pre-positioned some special forces to ambush their dumb asses in case they were, indeed, so stupid. Now the Ukrainians are in a boiler that the Russians have yet to turn up to full heat.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 23 2024 20:29 utc | 505

It’s the garbage-in, garbage-out principle at work.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 20:18 utc | 537
Agree, plus for extra seasoning we could include the “Peter Principle” of anyone showing the remotest degree of competence getting promoted to the point where they are incompetent, but they still get to make policy decisions.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 20:30 utc | 506

Ritter doesn’t have any more info than what’s publicly available, and he has been wrong countless times already.
Posted by: Micron | Aug 23 2024 18:27 utc | 510
Not true. Ritter has sources on both sides of this conflict, and a personal connection to the area. Please let us know a few of the “countless” times he has been wrong, rather than getting ahead of events that will eventually come to pass.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 23 2024 20:48 utc | 507

Payback in the hybrid war? Argentina for Bangladesh? Or just oil fuckery? Rising prices helps Russia. If the spice stops flowing we are all fucked, in many ways, but mostly if it ever happens the great houses all turn on each other and the Emperor goes out the window – Maybe that’s the multipolar world??? Spice fuckery ushers it in? It’ll be ugly.

Argentina’s largest oil refinery is on fire
The fire started in the evening at the YPF refinery in Ensenada, Buenos Aires.
According to preliminary information, there are no casualties, but fuel prices are expected to rise in the country and in Latina America as a whole.
“>https://t.me/llordofwar/368118

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 20:49 utc | 508

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 9:41 utc | 421
I thought you were more clever than that retort which is just mirroring the imitable Peter AU1
Posted by: canuck | Aug 23 2024 13:37 utc | 461
#421 defintely wasn’t posted by me, it was a name-stealer.

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 20:51 utc | 509

Posted by: Down South | Aug 23 2024 17:40 utc | 501
The grouping of AD systems to protect the Kursk breach was always going to make them vulnerable to SEAD strikes, one reason I questioned the ‘cleverness’ of the original Ukrainian operational concept; however, short range AD systems are going to have to adapt, perhaps concealed remote launchers that are networked. It’s interesting that the SMO confirmed that the SPAAG (Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft Gun) concept has been rendered obsolete or only survives as a re-purposed anti-drone/CIWS (Close-in weapon system), or ground system.
Posted by: Roger | Aug 23 2024 18:29 utc | 511
Mobility kill, left track bust, looks like a T-72 variant(hard to tell with anti-drone cage). As I said months ago, things will just get quicker for both sides, with the majority of the negative consequences borne by Ukraine.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 19:07 utc | 518
Air superiority and fire superiority are excellent force multipliers, as shown in WW2, Korea and Vietnam. Outnumbered 4-5:1 is standard, under these conditions, and remember the Russians use the Correlation of Forces and Means model to work out troop numbers required for combat tasks. These base numbers will not include, DRG/SF units, who themselves are integral force multipliers, especially if behind enemy lines calling in strikes and raiding lines of supply.
Kharkov and Kherson suddenly were on the score sheet, but at great cost, which had impacts that were felt a year later. Attacking without at least local air superiority is, and has always been, a costly endeavour, even when the attacker defender ratio is solidly in the formers favour. The other thing is to consider is that Western support was always conditional, robbing Ukraine of operational independence, and forcing them into the risky endeavours you listed.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 23 2024 19:23 utc | 522
More factors should be considered than your simple binary analysis, but I will agree that the generation of weapons NATO have supplied have substantially lost the edge they once held. This situation is common in warfare, previous advantages erode overtime as previously unique technologies are replicated by opponents, or they develop counters. Ten years ago, the NATO MBT’s (Main Battle Tanks) would have had a serious advantage over their Russian counterparts, but that has been steadily reduced. The advent of drones has also robbed Western vehicles of many of their design and doctrinal strengths.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 23 2024 20:57 utc | 510

The US cannot print artillery and shells, but it can print cash to pay for something that America has an endless supply of: college grads with degrees in the university equivalent of special education. Majors in journalism, gender studies, business administration, and so on, in which the only skill the students master is bullshitting their way through a brief five page paper every couple months, are useless to humanity, but they do prepare the students to spam the Internet for food.
The Empire cannot supply their pet Nazis with adequate weapons, but at least they can choke the Internet with NAFO trash. Delusional bullshitting is America’s greatest strength now.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 23 2024 20:58 utc | 511

Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 20:28 utc | 539
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“That’s the reason I and many others are still alive” does not refer to my little person but to the whole Europe including Russia.
Protecting Russia and its citizens does not mean vaporising everything. Which is what would happen listening to the some on this board.
I thank VVP for caring to Russia and everyone. Despite European leadership deserves to be destroyed.

Posted by: scc | Aug 23 2024 21:05 utc | 512

Activist Potato @ 542
Ritter’s tolerable, he gets good guy cred, he really needs a little editor on his shoulder with something sharp to poke with. He’s gotten a little better past year, more level, I assume mood stabilizers. Anyway, even at his best he repeats himself, over and over and over, all the youtube regulars do.
No one has any info, good and fresh, just very low level stuff, maybe Col. Macgregor a bit more but he won’t reveal the good stuff, there’s nothing from the inside in any way, no leaks, it’s hermetic, air tight in the NATO dictatorship, out of Russia it’s ALL speculation and the social media echo chamber, mostly TG, makes it seem actual. Russia is always pretty dark by nature, war or peace, not dark enough now in my opinion. Dark is scary, open is ClownWorld. Be boring for the bar crowd but Russia should turn off all the lights, DPRK style, occasionally shoot an unannounced missile over Germany or France.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 21:06 utc | 513

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 20:30 utc | 541
“Agree, plus for extra seasoning we could include the “Peter Principle” of anyone showing the remotest degree of competence getting promoted to the point where they are incompetent, but they still get to make policy decisions.”
Hmm, remind anybody of someone promoted to command world’s second greatest, or was it second rate, army? Then getting it bogged down for years right next door, not even being able to police their own borders anymore?

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 23 2024 21:13 utc | 514

США должны немедленно прекратить любое официальное взаимодействие с Тайванем. Этот вопрос является “первой красной линией” в китайско-американских отношениях. Об этом заявил пресс-секретарь посольства КНР в Вашингтоне Лю Пэнъюй.
Something is moving in the east

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 23 2024 21:13 utc | 515

Posted by: anonposter | Aug 22 2024 20:15 utc | 216
if you think that there is a deep state in Russia, please, give names.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 23 2024 21:14 utc | 516

These NAFO bros don’t understand what the Siloviki are as there is no corollary in the West.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2024 22:52 utc | 253
When he wrote about a potential coup in Russia, he made me laugh! How is it possible to be so stupid? Those people are dreaming. Now I will wait his answer to my question above. If only I get one.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 23 2024 21:21 utc | 517

The Russian Armed Forces take Chasiv Yar’s highest microdistrict
The Russian Armed Forces have knocked out the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the Kanal microdistrict in Chasiv Yar, the easternmost and highest part of the city. Last night, paratroopers of the 98th Airborne Division took control of the last high-rise building. The Russian troops were pushing through for more than two months to crush AFU’s defense in the area.
Bogdan Khodakovsky, the commander of “Revenge” tactical group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine wrote on Telegram that “the Russians succeeded” “and the loss of Chasiv Yar was getting closer.”
“This heralds serious consequences for changing the operational map of the Donbass. The next stop is Konstantinovka. We must organize counter-offensive actions and retrieve the strategic positions,” Khodakovsky pointed out.
The Russian Armed Forces advance on the flanks of Chasiv Yar too.
Ukraine’s loss of the city will lead to an operational breakthrough of the front, Ukrainian military expert, retired SBU Colonel Oleg Starikov said on the video blog of Ukrainian propagandist Alexander Shelest.
“Chasiv Yar is an operational direction. If the enemy goes through or we surrender it, this will lead to a crisis at the operational-tactical level,” he noted.
See more at “>https://english.pravda.ru/hotspots/159929-ukrainian-forces/

Posted by: ? | Aug 23 2024 21:31 utc | 518

Passerby | Aug 23 2024 18:34 utc | 512
They get “search warrants” just for harassment purposes all the time, don’t even get warrants sometimes just bust in saying they are doing a wellness check, and apparently they found no classified documents or the like.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 23 2024 21:31 utc | 519

Posted by: Biggus Dickus | Aug 23 2024 21:13 utc | 549
Nope, not seeing the parallel. Looking at the recent menagerie of (unelected) British Prime Ministers though, I can definitely see the Peter Principle applying…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 21:32 utc | 520

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2024 17:22 utc | 500
No worries, I can’t find the post right now but I’ll post any similar info that surfaces.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 23 2024 21:34 utc | 521

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Chronicles of the special military operation
for August 23, 2024
Russian forces struck military targets of the enemy in Cherkasy, Myrhorod and Sumy. At the same time, the extinguishing of fuel storage tanks of the Rosrezerv in Proletarsk, Rostov Region, which was attacked again by Ukrainian drones overnight, continues.
In the Kursk direction, there are battles in the Sudzha District, where the Russian Armed Forces have restored control over Spalnoye. In the Korenevo District, fighting and exchange of strikes continue.
In the Oleksandrivka-Kalinovo direction, the Russian Armed Forces engaged in battles in the urban area of Dzerzhynsk, advancing about 1.5 km westward from Artemovo.
In the Pokrovsk direction, Russian troops are breaking through the AFU defense simultaneously at several sectors.
“>https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17199

Posted by: ? | Aug 23 2024 21:44 utc | 522

Late for me now so signing out, just in case there’s an infection of name-jacking.
This username is OOU UFN.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 21:45 utc | 523

Why do I feel that Russia, this time, has a surprise up its sleeve? Can’t put my finger on it, but something’s stirring somewhere.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 23 2024 21:50 utc | 524

What is “real GDP”? Is that the opposite of the “not real GDP” in the West?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2024 19:29 utc | 525
It technically means GDP adjusted for inflation. I am not sure if they are actually using it in that context in the post you referenced or not as they are making a case for economy shrinking when PPP that is GDP based on how much the local currency can purchase as opposed to the main GDP numbers being denominated in dollars.
Without any sources their statements are pretty contradictory either a misunderstanding of numbers or I’m going to go with Jeremy:
“Also notable that @Gisaac didn’t provide a source. That gets my troll-detecting antennae twitching…”
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 23 2024 19:35 utc | 526

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 23 2024 21:55 utc | 525

@ William Gruff | Aug 23 2024 20:58 utc | 546
lol said, especially the last sentence!
@ anon2020 | Aug 23 2024 21:34 utc | 556
no problem if you don’t find it.. hopefully i see it if you post.. i am gone for the last 2 days and back sunday westcoast time..

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2024 22:06 utc | 526

well said –

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2024 22:06 utc | 527

Charlie Brown is now a MoA ‘Russophile’:

The head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US Armed Forces, General Charles Brown, in private conversations, called the Ukrainian operation in Kursk “the most expensive photo booth in history.”

I find this amusing. Damn you and your filthy logic eh? NAFO are like Don Quixote, but far less amusing. A more precise person might call them disinformation agents, or more specifically anti-intellectual fascists.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 22:12 utc | 528

They get “search warrants” just for harassment purposes all the time, don’t even get warrants sometimes just bust in saying they are doing a wellness check, and apparently they found no classified documents or the like.
Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 23 2024 21:31 utc | 554
But according to Scott Ritter, they took unclassified UN documents that, IIRC, supported his findings that there were no WMDs in Iraq before we invaded the country.

Posted by: Samu | Aug 23 2024 22:13 utc | 529

@564,
Words of wisdom from a USAF fighter pilot, F-16,
The Kievan went in with no air cover and minimal air defenses, which got shot up.
What would a fighter pilot say!

Posted by: paddy | Aug 23 2024 22:29 utc | 530

An explanation regarding the Kherson Dniper islands, estuary, spit assaults, there aren’t many explanations for these odd suicide landings except for maybe PR, which is what makes this interesting:

Ukraine plans to use ports in Nikolaev and Kherson regions for transporting agricultural products
According to the statement of the head of the agroholding “Nibulon” A. Vadatursky, the unblocking of the Nikolaev port will reduce the costs of agricultural exports by 15%. The distance from Nikolaev to Odessa is 131 km, then the route will pass along the “alternative sea corridor” through the territorial waters of Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey.
According to the Ukrainian side, there are about 60 cargo ships in the port of Nikolaev ready to work on the export of grain.
At present, the use of this route is impossible due to the Russian Armed Forces maintaining the Dnieper-Bug Estuary under fire control . In this regard, the representative of the Ukrainian Navy, Captain 3rd Rank D. Pletenchuk, declared an interest in capturing the Kinburn Spit to take control of the route .
Despite this, on August 16, 2024 , the Nikolaev branch of the State Enterprise “Administration of Sea Ports of Ukraine” placed a tender for repair work in the Nikolaev seaport . It is planned to carry out major repairs of turnouts No. 127, No. 129, No. 153, No. 157 and railway track No. 6 of the park “Z”. The budget for the events is UAH 17.655 million (USD 427.6 thousand).
In these conditions, the increased activity of the SSO and GUR sabotage groups in relation to the Kinbur and Tendrivska spits in the Kherson region becomes understandable. Trying to obtain additional benefits , the Ukrainian military-political leadership repeatedly sends its elite units to slaughter, covering it up with a “liberation war”.
“>https://t.me/two_majors/30209

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 22:31 utc | 531

In contrast to the many trolls here, I find it interesting that the reaction to Kursk is so different from Ukraine’s past counteroffensive. There is doubt and disbelief all over the West. Published articles take on a muted tone – sort of, ‘well, yeah great….but’.
Mercouris is talking about this together with his opinion that the Pentagon is not happy that Ukraine has done this and overextended itself.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 23 2024 22:32 utc | 532

From the Ukie channel.
Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#Insider information
Our source in the OP said that the Prime Minister of India refused Zelensky to support the resolution of the summit in Switzerland and declared his readiness to mediate in the negotiation process with Russia.
Zelensky, in talks with Modi, publicly called on the Indian prime minister to join the statement following the peace conference in Switzerland, causing dissatisfaction with the delegation from India. Before the meeting, our Foreign Ministry agreed on the protocol of the meeting of the two leaders, which did not contain the points of Zelensky’s peace formula and the resolution of the Swiss summit.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 22:35 utc | 533

Breaking. According to Ukrainian channel Deepstate, drone operators are now being used as infantry in the Pokrovsk front. Talk about self-cannibalization, the end is near…
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1827071352076943782

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 22:35 utc | 534

Eighthman @ 568

that the Pentagon is not happy that Ukraine has done this and overextended itself.

Oh good, maybe they’ll take their thousands of tons of weapons and wunderwaffen, 80 foot containers of money, and army of sheep dipped all-American neo-Nazi assholes and go home. Yes, I’m being very sarcastic.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 22:42 utc | 535

I should have put that 569 in blockquote …..
Kurst looks to be settling into a new cuisines as usual – destruction of Nato proxies at a very fast rate.
Apparently Nato has lost more equipment in Kursk than it did in the previous southern offensive

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 23:01 utc | 536

The oil never stopped exporting from Russia. It stopped going to the German refinery. The black sea tankers are not global tankers. The oil gets transferred off the coast of Greece now to global tankers. It goes to India and China at a discount.
I note several things.
Russia is prosecuting a war while maintaining a non war economy more or less intact. Ukraine is basically operating off its USA “aid”. Russia actually has to keep a economy going with associated infrastructure. Ukraine does not. It just buys what it needs with the aid and distributes to the strong arms. This is a quality associated with asymmetric warfare. The strong participant has many assets to strike. The weaker participant just does not have assets to destroy. This makes the weaker participant harder to hurt. Usually the weaker participant does not have modern arms. We are evolving into a asymmetric warfare situation where Ukraine has the advantages of the weaker participant but the advantages of very modern arms.
The situation is not just a border that the weaker participant can resupply and find sanctuary in. A independent economy is supporting Ukraine while Russia must maintain its economy while suffering ever increasing attacks. This simply spells failure in the conflict for Russia. Russia must either hurt the economy supplying Ukraine world war or be defeated.
This creates a situation that is already present. No targets in Ukraine. The power grid targets already hit. There are no economy targets that effect Ukraine’s ability to wage war as it relys on external funding. Russia having a real economy has lots of targets and destroying them does indeed hurt Russia’s economy badly.
From the very beginning the Russian oil tankers were the primary economic targets. It will only take one and insurance on the tankers will not be available. Insurance for oil tankers is a requirment to operate globally
Destroying a Russian oil tanker as it leaves the black sea ports will immediately effect global oil prices. IMO this is why it has been off limits.
Ukraines energy grid was targeted by Russia. This makes energy related targets fair game. The two most recent Ukrainian attacks were on a fuel depot with $200m of product and the ferry carrying fuel. This indicates a focus on energy related economic targets by Ukraine. Russia has failed to protect them. this is a function of sophisticated weapons that can be provided that do not require large military launchers or equipment.
Im just guessing. I guess Russian oil tankers will be targeted after the USA election. The ferry was targeted with Ukraine “neptune” anti ship missiles. The same that sank the Moskva. No USA equipment supposedly and plausible deniability. “we did not know of the attack but we support ukraines right to self defense.
If a oil tanker is sunk it will immediately and radically effect Russias economy. It fully fits the definition of existential threat. Russia will have hard decisions to make. The charade of the “SMO” will be revealed. Russia will no longer to be able to pretend that they can just continue economically as if they are not at war.Pretend this is a “police action” Russia will have to respond but there are no targets in ukraine that can hurt it economically. They will have to address the reality that they must hurt the supply economys. or they can give up. Giving up is the more likely IMO as painful as it will be. Russia will not instigate WW3. The hegemony gets a lease on life.
On the other hand it may be Russia decides that they will be destroyed no matter what they do. They will coordinate with China and Iran if they are willing. Shutting Hormuz may be considered appropriate response. NK is of course in. I dont think China is. Iran I dont know. They will take their best shot. It may or may not be nuclear.
Even if oil tankers are not targeted the fundamental situation of a external economy supporting Ukraine means Russia can not win. It will get worse from here. no matter how hard Russia punishes Ukraine the weapons will arrive and be deployed. One weapon reaching the target means unsustainable losses by Russia economy. IMO we see symptoms of what the fundamental situation means. Kursk. The ferry. The fuel depot. There are 180,000 displaced Russians. The Russian public will start to figure it out. It wont be all at once but it will be continuous. Russian casualties will increase. It wont be 7 to 1 anymore. The Russians will still be “winning” militarily killing more of the enemy, take back donbass but there is no end game. There is no means to stop Ukraine from hurting Russia economically. Other than nuclear weapon use. I dont think Russia will do that.
IMO the globalist are ok with world energy transit ending. They discuss it as a positive all the time. Its win win win. Russia gives up. Energy transit ends. nuclear war. All wins. They do not care about lives.
Its not that they are provoking Russia. They just dont care. They dont care about the world. They dont care which outcome. This is part of Russia gaining understanding of the situation. The real participant does not care about the world. Its not the USA government. Does anyone really think that clown show runs things? The USA people are just like the Slavic people. OK more stupid. The globalists dont care if the USA is destroyed. Its just like Ukraine. Russia can turn it into glass. It doesnt upset the globalist. They throw a party. Used like toilet tissue. Same for Israel. They dont care. Less energy consumed. Russia gets left with the choices. It how psychopaths operate. They perceive power as the only thing of value. They lie like a fish swims. All outcomes sustain their idea what power is. Win Win Win. Russia gets left with the responsibility. The globalists use that as a tool.
Russia didnt understand. They thought it was like WW2 defeat the military get surrender. NOT. They thought the neo liberals were sincere that they were humanists. NOT. They thought they were respected part of Europe. NOT. Its not a uncommon mistake. People who have compassion think most everyone does. NOT. Now the masks come off. The slaughter in Ukraine. The genocide in Gaza.

Posted by: Dogowoof | Aug 23 2024 23:15 utc | 537

Kurst looks to be settling into a new cuisines as usual – destruction of Nato proxies at a very fast rate.
Apparently Nato has lost more equipment in Kursk than it did in the previous southern offensive
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 23:01 utc | 572
After the meat grinders, the metal grinder… It is fascinating to see how easily those metal things are burning. Some are even working as an incineration chamber.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 23 2024 23:16 utc | 538

Posted by: scc | Aug 23 2024 21:05 utc | 547
…does not refer to my little person but to the whole Europe including Russia.
Protecting Russia and its citizens does not mean vaporising everything. Which is what would happen listening to the some on this board.
I thank VVP for caring to Russia and everyone. Despite European leadership deserves to be destroyed.

What a gem! I don’t want to be 7th columnist playing 23rd D chess. But if a country which extends over 8 time zones–is afraid of a little nuclear exchange. Then s*/ew them!
You can be sure that its Junta is too old and too scared to die.
The life of one lowley Russian conscipt is as or more valuable than these so called leaders. VVP and his corrupt lackies are too old and too soft to run this great country.
A clown is attacking his country directly: how many red lines he is going to let him cross? Where is his sense of duty to Russian people?
Does his loyalty lies only with his coterie of theives or will he use all his military might?! He should have done it in 2022. Here people are sucking his dick!?
What is wrong with Russian people?? Too lazy or too corrupt to care, as long as it is someone else’s kid? WTF!!!!

Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 23:17 utc | 539

Posted by: Dogowoof | Aug 23 2024 23:15 utc | 573
So to summarize you make correct points. Ukraine doesn’t need to maintain any additional workforce or economy as their economy is outsourced to, mostly EU and USA.
This is economic war, Russia, and preferably China too, need to find ways to put serious damage to their economy. Partially they have succeeded, witness the EU oil tanker sunk today in the Red Sea.
The EU is basically in tatters and deindustrialized.
US is the only game in town. But they seem to be slowly sucked into quicksand with endless and massive dual deficits while reduced demand for currency. Large inflation and living cost crisis follows.
The problem is living cost crisis do not matter anymore for western elites ability to keep the Ukrowar running, because they are not democracies, nor are the (Dominion voting machine) elected governments accountable to people. The people, are sedated enough to stay content.
What further economic targets should Russia hit? The Houthi-Red sea is brilliant already. Hormuz is obviously another one.
On the other hand, one omitted perspective is also that the ability of Nato to hide behind Ukraine is based on the meat shields. The meat shields seem to be increasingly surrendering, especially in Donbass. Nato will have continuously fewer possibilities to hit economic targets in Russia.
A few Poseidons outside major US ports would basically shut down the country within three weeks, and cause complete chaos as ‘stuff’ runs out and inflation soars through the roof.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 23:30 utc | 540

Posted by: Dogowoof | Aug 23 2024 23:15 utc | 573
So to summarize you make correct points. Ukraine doesn’t need to maintain any additional workforce or economy as their economy is outsourced to, mostly EU and USA.
This is economic war, Russia, and preferably China too, need to find ways to put serious damage to their economy. Partially they have succeeded, witness the EU oil tanker sunk today in the Red Sea.
The EU is basically in tatters and deindustrialized.
US is the only game in town. But they seem to be slowly sucked into quicksand with endless and massive dual deficits while reduced demand for currency. Large inflation and living cost crisis follows.
The problem is living cost crisis do not matter anymore for western elites ability to keep the Ukrowar running, because they are not democracies, nor are the (Dominion voting machine) elected governments accountable to people. The people, are sedated enough to stay content.
What further economic targets should Russia hit? The Houthi-Red sea is brilliant already. Hormuz is obviously another one.
On the other hand, one omitted perspective is also that the ability of Nato to hide behind Ukraine is based on the meat shields. The meat shields seem to be increasingly surrendering, especially in Donbass. Nato will have continuously fewer possibilities to hit economic targets in Russia.
A few Poseidons outside major US ports would basically shut down the country within three weeks, and cause complete chaos as ‘stuff’ runs out and inflation soars through the roof.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 23:30 utc | 541

What is wrong with Russian people??
Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 23:17 utc | 575
#######
What is your nationality?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2024 23:33 utc | 542

Naive | Aug 23 2024 23:16 utc | 574
Yep. I watch some of the video of battles and the Nato cannon fodder must have been well stoked on some pretty good substances to keep going, to keep attacking the way they did.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 23:33 utc | 543

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI7BwKYbpWo
Banned in the US.
Queen of the pop in Russia.
Mother (a boy and a girl)
Any of you understand what the fuck is singing about to all those “liberal” youngers?
Do you understand the language and the meaning?
Do you even read in Russian?
She is a goddess, not only for her voice, but for the values she is promoting: love, family, respect, effort, individual passion and social responsibility; “you can do your mind meanwhile you do your family”
Russian community: let the people think for themselves.

Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 23 2024 23:41 utc | 544

Poor fellow…He gives away his “non-russianess,” by his impatience to kill.

Posted by: donten | Aug 23 2024 23:44 utc | 545

580 directed at: Posted by: Victor | Aug 23 2024 23:17 utc | 575

Posted by: donten | Aug 23 2024 23:48 utc | 546

I find it odd why non-Russians on this forum are so vehemently in favour of the Russian government and attack with such venom anyone who criticises their actions.
I couldn’t give a fuck about Ukraine.
I couldn’t give a fuck about Russia.
But being in possession of a working brain, I can’t help but notice Russia is losing this one.

Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 23 2024 23:56 utc | 547

>> But being in possession of a working brain, I can’t help but notice Russia is losing this one.
>> Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 23 2024 23:56 utc | 582
Posts like this are why this place is worthless. Just call names and add nothing to the conversation. Bots talking to bots.

Posted by: ivanislav | Aug 24 2024 0:03 utc | 548

Chay Bowes
@BowesChay
Your update direct from Moscow.
As Ukraines Western masters direct their desperate proxies increasingly dangerous provocations against Russia,
The idea that Russia will never respond is deluded and grossly irresponsible.
Of course, when Russia does, the Western client media will immediately tell you it’s completely “Unprovoked”
Dangerous times.

https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1826970170826326370
He is in Moscow. Its started to look as if things are quietening down, but going by what the Russian ambassador in the US said, Russia believes the US will escalate. Dangerous times if it does.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:07 utc | 549

Haha, I’m a ‘bot’. Yes. everyone is a bot who criticies the glorious mother Russia.

Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:07 utc | 550

I wish MI6 or whoever would pay me more as [glancing at the clock] I have to log off to do my real job.
Laters, you strange Russian government-loving freaks.

Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:14 utc | 551

evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:14 utc | 586
Piss off troll.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:18 utc | 552

The Ukrainian army lost roughly 16,155 troops in battles with Russian forces in all the frontline areas over the week, according to the latest data on the special military operation in Ukraine released by Russia’s Defense Ministry.
That’s 840.000 per year, 210.000 per quarter (for those who asked if my 208.000 for 2024q3 was a bit too much)
https://tass.com/politics/1833183

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 0:19 utc | 553

Whatever Peter. You are clearly a sad, little man.

Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:20 utc | 554

oh, don’t ask why
oh, don’t ask why
for if we don’t find the next whisky bar
I tell you we must die
I tell you we must die
pick your poison, light up a cohiba
this round is on me, i’m good for it.
adios muchachos, muchachas.

Posted by: Montazumas revenge | Aug 24 2024 0:20 utc | 555

“According to Russia’s Defense Ministry’
lol

Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:21 utc | 556

Hey Newbie,
Are you interested in purchasing some magic beans to go and see Jack? They are endorsed by Putin!

Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:23 utc | 557

Even in my lost of a clear mind (my dementia), I am able to recognize the universal value of this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUmnTfsY3hI
That is true, beyond the bad things committed in the past. There was a time when there was hope for a better future.

Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 0:28 utc | 558

August 24th is Independence day in Ukraine and Kiev is expected to launch a number of attacks many of which will occur in the Black Sea against Kherson and Crimea.
https://t.me/boriskarpovrussie/138467
In French.

Posted by: Richard L | Aug 24 2024 0:29 utc | 559

Haha, I’m a ‘bot’. Yes. everyone is a bot who criticies the glorious mother Russia.
Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:07 utc | 585
Maybe if the OFAN trolls and shills could come up with anything resembling actual analysis or novel viewpoints, instead of lame repetitive one-line regurgitations of previous accusations in the most butt-hurt tone possible, they wouldn’t look so much like, and therefore be accused of being “bots.”
TL/DR: Try harder. MoA deserves better trolls.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 0:31 utc | 560

Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 0:31 utc | 595
Best to keep it the short and sweet ‘Piss off Troll’. As b would say “Don’t feed the trolls”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:34 utc | 561

I think everything possible and the rampage of the West, including another slew of new 100s of sanctions introduced today, tells me the West/The US treasury is in panic over October BRICS.
By years end, 40-50 countries will be able to bi-pass the US dollar. The mechanism, closely guarded like sealed tomb, only to be opened in October is in place. The 10 nations will have first priority, but it sounds like a system that will be used by all of Russia’s current supply chains and suppliers.
Any stunt, any action, including a NATO war with Russia is on the table to distract & prevent the October BRICS.
I thought for awhile, BRICS would be like last year, sort of a remake of the G20 type nonsense, but apparently, this is the introduction of the long awaited BRIC breakout payment mechanism.
If they thought (US Feds/IMF) they could escape WW3 involvement, they’d start one in Sept.
Heck. They still might. Obviously bum rushing Russia on their soil, wasn’t an oversight or blunder. BRICS is their Achilles heel. They’re becoming way to obvious about it with this latest 100s new sanctions garbage. It’s not Russia they’re doing it for or to particularly, it’s the 2nd and 3rd parties, to show China et el who’s boss. We’re gonna sanction anyone, every merchant and business we want, and you’ll do as we say.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2024 0:36 utc | 562

@Tom_Q_Collins
Do you actually believe I’m being paid by Western intelligence services to post on this obscure blog of no importance whatsoever?
Might want to have that mental illness you are suffering from looked into.

Posted by: evilsooty | Aug 24 2024 0:36 utc | 563

Posted by: Milites | Aug 23 2024 21:50 utc | 560
Contest! The back of my neck itches like when the aiming device imposes an error of one hectograde on the panoramic telescope of the cannon.
automatic translation

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 24 2024 0:44 utc | 564

Richard L | Aug 24 2024 0:29 utc | 594
Thanks for that. As I put in an earlier comment, the Russian ambassador to the said the US will escalate. The F16’s still haven’t been used so I guess they will be part of it.
Auto translate from Richards link.

Boris Karpov 🇷🇺 📣 Russia News
⚡️⚡️⚡️Source К.В.
The important day of the SVO is approaching
On this Independence Day of Ukraine, August 24, 2024, events are expected. And in part, it is already happening. And it is not only about a possible missile attack on the Crimean Bridge and Bankovaya.
❗️Russian Ambassador to the United States Anatoly Antonov suddenly announced today:
“I sincerely tell you that the President has made a decision. I firmly believe that everyone will be severely punished for what happened in the Kursk region.”
❗️Germany has warned its citizens that on Ukraine’s Independence Day, August 24, “there may be an increase in missile and air attacks on urban centers, especially on the capital kyiv.” German citizens are warned against traveling to Ukraine, and those already there are urged to “urgently apply to leave the country.”
❗️The US Embassy has called on its citizens to leave Ukrainian territory on the eve of Ukraine’s Independence Day.
❗️Report from colleagues: During the night, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to show activity in the southern direction. The movement of forces and assets of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the direction of Zaporozhye, Kakhovka and Kinburn Spit (towards Crimea) is recorded. During the night, several dry cargo ships, accompanied by military ships of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, left the ports of Odessa and Izmail for the Black Sea. On board these “trucks” are radar stations and MLRS containers for launching Himers and MGM-140 missiles. The movement of ground forces is underway, as well as the movement of combat boats of the Ukrainian Navy in the Black Sea. Up to 200 (?) units of watercraft. Intelligence reports on preparations for the launches of UAVs and naval BECs.
❗️Governor of the Kherson region Vladimir Saldo:
Reliable information has been received about the accumulation of military equipment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, mainly of Western origin, with the aim of conducting an offensive operation from the Black Sea towards Kherson. The enemy will again try to land from the Black Sea and the Dnieper-Bug estuary on the Tendrovskaya and Kinburn spits. As always, a symbolic date was chosen for the provocation, this time – the Independence Day of Ukraine.
❗️ Boris Rozhin:
NATO special operations forces are coordinating the upcoming operation.
❗️NGP exploration:
According to our information, the enemy is preparing a massive attack on various infrastructure in Crimea in the coming hours.
The list of targets includes, among others, a bridge, energy facilities, communication towers, and ports.
❗️ At the same time, late in the evening, Pozdnyakov published monstrous images of the “second Bucha” in Korenev, allegedly provided to him by FSB officers. And he was accused of working for MI6, since this material should not (now?) enter the network.
On the day of Ukraine’s independence, the escalation of the war and tensions in this war could reach a climax at which anything would be possible. Unheard of so far. Both sides have prepared. And it seems that they will collide with all their might in flight.
It will be noisy

Now to wait and see what tomorrow brings.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:46 utc | 565

This “obscure blog of no importance” has been referenced by former NATO weapons inspectors (plural – in two theaters/conflicts), is cited almost daily at a number of other popular blogs -including multiple written by former intelligence agents and officials, well known economists and former members of civil government, attracts renowned researchers, journalists and analysts (commenting under pen names most of the time) and is apparently very much on the radar of the NATO and NAFO/OFAN folks as it has been for some time. Not long ago, but well before the start of Russia’s SMO, regular contributors to sites like The Guardian would comment here (almost always in contrarian fashion similar to the present crop of much less interesting trolls – See: Libya and Maidan themed entries), often under their own names. I, however, won’t be naming any names, however, because our trolls and shills have already demonstrated a degree of ‘social engineering’ and the fact that they try to goad those of us who have witnessed all of the above into correcting the record on MoA’s reach, worldwide, is testament enough to their knowledge of the truth.
Do I think that any of the recent shills and trolls are being paid to disrupt the forum? Highly unlikely as the “quality” (or lack thereof) of the content they spew out like diarrhea is so poor that it would lower already abysmally bottomed-out opinion of the “intelligence” agencies here in the collective West. Do such operations exist? Of course they do.
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/20/ukraine-nafo-troll-war-criminals/
https://www.propastop.org/eng/2023/02/07/who-are-the-nafo-fellas-fighting-misinformation-online/
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/10/28/spooks-mercs-hawks-nafo-troll/
https://web.archive.org/web/20190102031154/https://washingtonsblog.com/2015/03/propagandists-use-automated-software-spread-disinformation.html
https://www.sott.net/article/294220-Government-propaganda-automated-bots-and-Internet-trolls-The-battle-to-control-public-opinion-and-manipulate-social-media (use the Wayback Machine/Internet Archive to view individual hyperlinks in the article)
After all, the Israelis have been doing it for decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HtFukI_K84

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 0:49 utc | 566

Better leaved 1000 criminals without a just process than condemned an innocent for a while… In an unjust process.
Please, try to be good. Enjoy your last atisbes of your existence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0eeSoU35wM

Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 0:52 utc | 567

“What is your nationality?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 23 2024 23:33 utc | 577”
United States!

Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 0:55 utc | 568

Personally I have trouble believing anyone is paid for writing a version of poopoo on the internet.
I am willing to believe some people thing Ukraine is winning, but they seem to be winning widespread destruction and loss of sovereignty.
I kinda feel this is a sort of insurrection where Russia only has to survive to destroy the enemy – namely NATO.
It is difficult to see the entire western empire falling to shit because they lost an overseas war, hell they haven’t won one for about 30 years.
But if Russia’s concern is missiles moving closer then showing they can catarstrphize a pawn seems effective.

Posted by: Polli | Aug 24 2024 0:55 utc | 569

Accusations of paid trolling by “hostile foreign powers” are virtually textbook NATO information space doctrine.
https://fair.org/home/reporting-on-russias-troll-army-western-media-forget-wests-much-bigger-sophisticated-troll-army/
The food and big pharma industries have a well documented history of hiring people to go out on blogs, comment sections and social media to spew their talking points and disrupt forums.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 0:57 utc | 570

I recall reading a post several days past that three trucks carrying supplies on a highway in Poland on the way to an airport outside Krakow just suddenly exploded.
I haven’t been able to find anything on this in the news.
Did three trucks explode in Poland or was it just a false story?

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 24 2024 1:00 utc | 571

Polli | Aug 24 2024 0:55 utc | 604
This is not Vietnam, Iraq or any of the Post WWII conflicts, proxy or otherwise.
This will only end when the Anglo American empire no longer exists, when the hegemon no longer exists. The war front may move to China and Iran but still part of the same war, as good as declared by Russia and China in there joint statement Feb 2022. Essentially WWIII in the nuclear age. The main thing is keeping below the level of MAD.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:01 utc | 572

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:46 utc | 600
Good stuff Peter…👌

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 573

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:46 utc | 600
Sounds to me like a lot of bullshit.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 574

Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 610

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:05 utc | 575

Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 610

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:05 utc | 576

Wall Street Journal on the tinfoil hat conspiracy of paid/coordinated/”grass roots” online trolling: https://archive.ph/JMIxn
https://revolver.news/2024/04/just-in-explosive-allegations-that-the-cia-is-operating-ukrainian-online-anti-trump-troll-farms-to-influence-american-voters-and-the-2024-election/

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:06 utc | 577

Why trolling can be an effective means of disrupting online commentary:
https://web.archive.org/web/20151220172102/https://washingtonsblog.com/2014/02/trolls-start-flame-wars-swearing-name-calling-web-shuts-ability-think-focus.html

So why do people troll in a rude way?
Psychologists say that many Internet trolls are psychopaths, sadists and narcissists getting their jollies. It’s easy to underestimate how many of these types of sickos are out there: There are millions of sociopaths in the U.S. alone.
But intelligence agencies are also intentionally disrupting political discussion on the web, and ad hominen attacks, name-calling and divide-and-conquer tactics are all well-known, frequently-used disruption techniques.
Now you know why … flame wars polarize thinking, and stop the ability to focus on the actual topic and facts under discussion.
Indeed, this tactic is so effective that the same wiseguy may play both sides of the fight.

And that is why we shouldn’t feed the trolls. Over and out.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:09 utc | 578

Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 610
Not sure what happened there. Started typing a reply and it instantly posted twice.
As for that piece I translated and quoted, I’m leaving it open. The F16s still have not been used and Russia believes the US will escalate. There is also likely to be a new range of weapons used with the F16.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:09 utc | 579

Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 610
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:05 utc | 612
🙂

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:10 utc | 580

Don’t you like the music?
I’m not American. I’m human.
I give a fuck. Just to recognize our common sense.
I like the music:
I’m sure that someone will recognize this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0khKL3tTOTs

Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:11 utc | 581

Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:11 utc | 617
Music is best at the open thread

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:13 utc | 582

I’m sure that someone will recognize this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0khKL3tTOTs
Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:11 utc | 617
I don’t recognize this, but the modulation of her voice is impressive and poignant. Nice.
Don’t know what this has to do with the Ukraine thread, but maybe there is a deeper meaning you can explain.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:21 utc | 583

@ Trubind1 | Aug 24 2024 0:36 utc | 597 with the rumor but no link of BRICS+ neutron bomb in October of parts of new global finance structure…thanks
But would like link/posting to drool over….thanks

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 24 2024 1:26 utc | 584

Currently close to 4.30 AM of the 24th in Kiev – ‘independence’ day.
Perhaps nothing will occur perhaps something will occur but if it does it’s likely to be in the coming hours.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:31 utc | 585

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:31 utc | 622
Although Dima is good. He’s not that good. He makes thought-provoking speculations which add a different dimension to the battle maps he produces.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 1:38 utc | 586

Ritter’s tolerable, he gets good guy cred, he really needs a little editor on his shoulder with something sharp to poke with. He’s gotten a little better past year, more level, I assume mood stabilizers. Anyway, even at his best he repeats himself, over and over and over, all the youtube regulars do.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 23 2024 21:06 utc | 548
I can see that…sometimes I cringe…but his fundamentals are strong and he does indeed have sources that you and I (I assume you are a prol like me) inside the military that give him the gist of something based in reality that is not available in the MSM. Even if he didn’t have those sources, he’s been in the game at a deep level and understands how it works. I’ll listen to Ritter and take him seriously any day.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:39 utc | 587

Easy.
We don’t know any thing about a conflict that is beyond our comprehension. I try that you listen to some music, actual and of another time, to be aware that there’s not a problem to be conscious.
Do what you want: insult, choque, whatever.
I like the music:
I’ve put you several music.
Now, One more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trOXaDeFeD4

Posted by: Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:41 utc | 588

that you and I (I assume you are a prol like me)
Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:39 utc | 624
“that you and I don’t have”….is what should be there, apologies

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:43 utc | 589

The SOTT article was a repost of now defunct Washington’s Blog, a well known US politics site from the peak of the blogoverse during the Bush and Obama years.
The loser, low IQ, low information trolls use ad hominem and name calling when hypocritically spewing accusations of abuse. It’s forum disruption 101 and as pathetic and low class today as it was 20 years ago. Throw in the constant childish whinging about how terrible b and MOA are despite the sociopathic desperation to be seen and heard and it’s clear we’re dealing with a literal attention seeking retarded toddler. LOL

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:47 utc | 590

“I have contributed enormously to this forum…”
LMFAO add delusions of narcissistic grandeur to the already long list of behavioral disorders.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:49 utc | 591

Bogota’s | Aug 24 2024 1:41 utc | 626
Quit spamming the thread.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:51 utc | 592

So the UAF big bang is supposedly scheduled for the 24th in Crimea and Kherson?
If it turns out like the Kursk fiasco, then Saturday will turn into the Southern Turkey Shoot.
Omgosh over 700 MBT’s, IFV’s, APC’s, Marder’s, Bradley’s, M113’s, cargo 6×6’s, Hunvee’s destroyed by RF forces in the Kursk fire pocket already……………
A huge suicide push toward ZNPP and the Crimea and Kherson will amount a turkey shoot that will make Kursk look like minor league baseball…….
Stay tuned sports fans, the 24th will be hot, hot, hot…………the last desperate kamakazi push by the Nazis………..

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 24 2024 1:52 utc | 593

HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 1:38 utc | 623
Is that TG account connected to Dima?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 1:53 utc | 594

How did the UAF push to capture the Kursk NPP work out anyway Bojo?
Just another massive UK failure……….Dieppe anyone?

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 24 2024 1:55 utc | 595

Although Dima is good. He’s not that good. He makes thought-provoking speculations which add a different dimension to the battle maps he produces.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 1:38 utc | 623
I made Dima daily viewing at the start of the SMO. When I realized this Ukraine purge was going to take a long time I visited him far less frequently. He has no strategic thought in his head, even though he is trying hard by adding the little leader icons across the globe and weighing in on their MSM communications. He is looking for clicks on both sides of the conflict. I am not saying he is totally useless (I check in occasionally to compare findings) but I don’t draw my daily Ukraine thought from his videos, and often don’t take them into account at all.

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:55 utc | 596

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 0:46 utc | 600
Good stuff Peter…👌
Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 1:03 utc | 609
And they were able to post dozens of empty posts and now the post where I showed that this weeks numbers extrapolate to 210.000 destroyed AFU per quarter , lower than the 208.000 I presented as estimate for 2024q3 (and some found too high)
They do a job too shitty to be paid above minimum wage (and even then they’re being overpaid )
On another angle , Pete expects Ukraine to do something tomorrow for ID DAY but it’s the birthday boy that should get a lot of presents.
Particularly if it is likely their last 🙂

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 1:57 utc | 597

Posted by: Activist Potato | Aug 24 2024 1:55 utc | 634
Fair comment, Spud!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 24 2024 2:02 utc | 598

“Do you actually believe I’m being paid by Western stupidity services to post…”
If trolls are not being paid then they are absolute morons. They could earn coin from the US State Department’s fake NGOs and Pentagon SOCOM/MISO operations for posting what they post, so posting it for free would be truly retarded.
You trolls are not retarded, are you? You are at least being paid what an Uber driver makes, right?

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 24 2024 2:07 utc | 599

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 24 2024 1:47 utc | 628
“The loser, low IQ, low information trolls use ad hominem and name calling when hypocritically spewing accusations of abuse. It’s forum disruption 101 and as pathetic and low class today as it was 20 years ago. Throw in the constant childish whinging about how terrible b and MOA are despite the sociopathic desperation to be seen and heard and it’s clear we’re dealing with a literal attention seeking retarded toddler. LOL”
Thank you for this and your many previous (very sane) comments. So far as the current trolloid infestation of MoA is concerned, I have observed-
Whenever things are not going too well for Ukraine in the actual hot fighting, it is almost inevitable that NATO will mobilise the disinformation/derail/doomer brigades to pervert, disrupt or otherwise buggerise the MoA Ukraine thread.
Many smart commentators here have opined that this behaviour is symptomatic of despair within NATO. I fully concur with this conclusion, but will conjecture that it would be the British (MI6) that are most despairing and whose panties are intractably twisted.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 24 2024 2:15 utc | 600