@ truthiness | Aug 23 2024 3:23 utc | 330
there is a difference between free speech and being a jackass… hopefully one day you’ll be able to tell the difference..

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2024 3:25 utc | 304

“So FUCK YOU both. You’re both idiot losers. This place is a sewer run buy Giant Turds”
Posted by: truthiness | Aug 23 2024 3:02 utc | 325
If ever there was a place for it, now is the time….
Piss off troll. “Truthiness” is a dishonest child. Probably genetically dishonest.

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 3:25 utc | 306

ditto suzans comment to you melaleuca… we appreciate your posts..

Posted by: james | Aug 23 2024 3:28 utc | 308

Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 0:44 utc | 281
…instead of sending them to the Kursk front, Russia is willing to evacuated civilians and if necessary concede ground rather than send more troops there.
The question is why…
While the Brit military geniuses are focused on *humiliating* Putin, triggering a muscle-memory invasion of Kursk…. Russia is busy taking all of Donbass, chewing off increasingly larger chunks each week.
Win Donbass and Russia wins the sloSMO. And ensures security for Crimea.
Allow themselves to be distracted with Kursk, and they snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.
Kursk is a failure for Russia.. failure of intel and or proactive response. Seeing Russian citizens captured and indiscriminately killed is a failure. The military is grappling with a formidable onslaught from the ukieNATO men and machines.
It’s a tough theatre, but Russia will prevail, and Ukraine will suffer a more rapid defeat.
The Russians know Kursk (while a humiliation) is a blimp in a now decade-long (in the latest iteration) war with U$NATO using its Ukraine proxy.
The Brit Borg Kursk planners fail to understand how well informed the Russian citizenry is… they can access western msm and see for themselves the anti Russian vitriol.
Sure, they may well be furious at Putin -and the military biguns – for the Kursk failure. But they understand it in context of the century-long existential conflict with the “anglosaxons”.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 1:43 utc | 300
Sorry, I’m a humble observer and I had predicted that by August 31st, the deal would have been concluded with a costly attempt to retreat by the Ukrainians; now instead I’m reminded of the Allied landing at Salerno (Italy, Operation Avalanche) during the Second World War. Kesserling’s comment to a question from a worried collaborator, during the visit to the front, was: Don’t worry, I see a concentration camp where 2 enemy divisions are maintaining themselves.

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 23 2024 3:30 utc | 310

Milites | Aug 22 2024 23:53 utc | 272
Mate, you’re still showing the biases of your perspective and pedantry. In the Milites War Room of Military Theory, AND WITH copish future prognostications, AND WITH your historical references *in retrospect*, AND WITH big picture, projected results of the grand SMO strategies, you define Kursk as not-clever. But I’ll bet the RF general staff were fuming and screaming WTF! Those fuckers! How dare they! … as their inner emotions felt “outsmarted”. It’s a hard left jab, to use boxing terms, or a kick in balls, in reference street fighting! You may well theorise it away, but xx,xxx RF troops cannot. That’s also my point.
And IF the KNPP HAD BEEN captured, and held to ransom, (maybe) you would have admitted it a succesfull op. No? Or just another dumb Ukie effort? It was an attempted Beslan School, or Dubrovka Theatre op. THAT’S why Putin designated it a terror op.
It was Putin-infuriating.
It was an RFAF suck they had not planned on mobilising just then.
It’s a gambit taunt for more RF conscription to thus bring in NATO.
It’s red line testing.
It was a near miss for nuclear blackmail.
It was (no doubt, somewhat) RFAF deflating.
It was civilian pissing off, 100k of them.
It’s yet another post war rebuild expense.
It was conscript POW capturing *inside RF* ffs.
It was MSM crowing.
I can’t believe you and others are calling it a nothingburger and strawmanning it with “Ah, but Porovsk is nearly taken”.
These are not trollie lies. These are facts. I am not traitor to MoA. I am just challenging yours and others’ biased vision of PRESENT, ON-GROUND REALITIES. You need to dial down your inner cope/embarrasment on behalf of OUR team and admit to it. Reflect on how, in a soccer game, how pissed off you are when our team fails to intercept a great 80M dribble run past some newbie defence players to score their goal through the goalie’s legs. Sure, we’ll win the match, no doubt, but credit to the opposition for a smart play. And, I’ll bet, it won’t be the last goal they’ll get.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 3:58 utc | 312

“Yes. I am generalizing but you get my drift.”
Posted by: suzan | Aug 23 2024 3:41 utc | 338
I do. MoA is a great resource. Amazing how the trolls are always so vulgar.

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 4:01 utc | 314

there is a difference between free speech and being a jackass… hopefully one day you’ll be able to tell the difference..
Posted by: james | Aug 23 2024 3:25 utc | 331
Doh Homer! Typical dumb comment by you. FUCK OFF james you light weight piss weak moron with the intelligence of a squashed bug. You do not have a clue about anything. You’re a fucking KNow-Nothing Weather Vane being blown by the wind. Fuck You you cowardly loser.
Especially you have no idea what I am talking about here regarding FREE SPEECH and what CUNTS like you, PeterAU1 and Bernard have done to create all the name impersonators, and the many people just like me who have lost ALL RESPECT for the Sewer after being treated like shit repeatedly by CUNTS LIKE YOU PETER canuck wisco and many many more fucking PSYCHOS & MORONS and the egotistic fools who think they’re so important standing up THE MAN so you’re being targeted by Govt PsyOps [ believing you’re like a Scott Ritter or Julian Assange FFS – you are are NOBODIES one and all ] but especially BERNARD the USELESS creep and incompetent owner and NON-moderator here with his DYSFUNCTIONAL SHIT SOFTWARE too boot!
FUCK YOU ALL — drown in your own shit you created here — you are INSIDIOUSLY SICK FRAUDS

Posted by: truthiness | Aug 23 2024 4:17 utc | 316

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 3:58 utc | 339

I don’t have a ‘team’, Jake. The Kursk incursion is fucking idiocy. Can I be more plain?
Some imagineers seem to beleive that the media space is worth fighting over, as though the lukewarm mush that passes for the brains if the Western public is the real battlefield instead of the endless Asian steppe. In war, people die. There is no such thing as a perfect defense. However, I strongly believe..as I guaranfuckingtee some intelligent NATO planners do..that the Rusdians were prepared.
The forces in Kursk aren’t being resupplied, they’re getting fucking murdered. I’m not sure why you struggle to see the obvious and inescapable outcome of this fools venture. Kursk was a last chance kick at the can. Next up, regular NATO forces and the hot place.
Not about a team..its about not being fucking insipid. Or perhaps you haven’t grasped the extent of Western lies yet.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 4:22 utc | 318

Posted by: truthiness | Aug 23 2024 4:17 utc | 343
Uh oh. This one is seriously becoming mentally and emotionally unhinged, possibly violent which would make sense, being so pro-Ukraine pro-Nato etc. I’ve suggested he/she just go back to Reddit.

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 4:30 utc | 320

But I’ll bet the RF general staff were fuming and screaming WTF! Those fuckers! How dare they! … as their inner emotions felt “outsmarted”.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 3:58 utc | 339

There is one old song in Russia by Vysotsky that goes like “And then I insulted him, I told him – Captain, you’l never make a Major.”
You are projecting your “normal-person” feelings onto General Officers. It’s like a person who faints at the sight of blood would try to explain what a surgeon does.
Personally, I’d bet that the Generral Staff felt relief that at last some of their pre-planned operations could be ordered a go.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 23 2024 4:45 utc | 322

B
If you are well enough to moderate!!!!!!
I am NOT in favour of banning many. But truthiness is deranged and needs to go. Adds nothing and is clearly off its head. Also abuses YOU which is the most outrageous thing of all.
Peter and Barrell
DO NOT ENGAGE he is a nutcase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: watcher | Aug 23 2024 5:05 utc | 324

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 2:30 utc | 317
sadly i think you may be right.
Hope not

Posted by: watcher | Aug 23 2024 5:07 utc | 326

Not about a team..its about not being fucking insipid. Or perhaps you haven’t grasped the extent of Western lies yet.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 23 2024 4:22 utc | 345
Whatever Doc – fact is you do not know shit bout what is happening in Kursk nor what the back up plans are for UKR or for Russia …
So given you do not know shit I suggest you simply shut the fuck up and stop being a dick head with an over inflated ego.
SAME goes for the rest of you idiots like Doc james and wisco posting here. NONE of you can see what is right in front of your face you are so incredibly DISORDERED and MENTALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL.
I speak to you as you deserve to be spoken to.
[ noting many folks here are actually nice and genuine people – but being here proves you also have some very serious mental problems despite that ]
Posted by: truthiness | Aug 23 2024 4:41 utc | 351
Actually, apart from the nuclear power plant, where do you want them to go? To Moscow?
automatic translation

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 23 2024 5:13 utc | 328

But why can’t fools see that surprise attacks do not change the major tide of war?
Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 23 2024 3:25 utc | 332
What war? This small training show is a war for you? If you wanted to say smo, then you understand backwards. Surprise attacks are created by smo, and the “tide” of smo will allow more surprise attacks, aka terrorism. Junk plans produce junk results

Posted by: rk | Aug 23 2024 5:33 utc | 330

some really troubled writers here. Can’t be good for you or anyone else. Give it a break!

Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 23 2024 5:35 utc | 332

Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 23 2024 5:35 utc | 362
Anyone posting here should be troubled by what is happening, and seeing the lies and full-spectrum propoganda promoted by our government and the media. It is actually horrifying, not just troubling. My 2 cents.

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 5:44 utc | 334

psychohistorian | Aug 23 2024 5:34 utc | 361
Team Kamala want/need prices at the pump low going into November.
Blowing up oil supplies global, … its all fun watching the kamboom, but blowback is a bitch.
When there’s price volatility in the next few months, the sugar high of blowing shit up will be long forgotten.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 5:59 utc | 336

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 5:55 utc | 365
There are always shades of corruption. Perhaps he really does feel guilty and wishes to atone. Moreover the path from prison to the front is well trodden. Look at Prizogin

Posted by: watcher | Aug 23 2024 6:13 utc | 338

watcher | Aug 23 2024 6:13 utc | 368
Yeah. He’s sorry.
So sorry he got caught.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 6:18 utc | 340

The fact is the Kursk ‘adventure’ from AFU, or more correctly, the British/Zelensky point of view is the equivalent of injecting dopamine in the bloodstream to make the pain of a foot being sawn off disappear, temporarily. Instead of acting to stop and treating the foot immediately which could potentially save it.
When the dopamine highs and numbness go away, you notice the pain comes back and now are in a much worse off position missing a foot and bleeding, requiring immediate amputation.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 6:20 utc | 342

Antifascist underground activation in Eastern Europe.
On the night of August 20, a large fire broke out in the suburbs of the Romanian city of Brasov in a warehouse of the Eurotex company. The warehouse was used to store military equipment and supplies for the Ukrainian armed forces, which had been prepared for shipment to Ukraine.
The fire spread over an area of more than 10,000 square meters. 12 fire brigades were involved in extinguishing the fire.
Poland, the vicinity of the villages of Aleksandrowica and Murawita.
Unknown persons attacked a convoy of cargo trucks traveling from military warehouses to the national air force airbase. As a result, at least three trucks loaded with crates of mortar rounds, helmets, body armor and other ammunition intended for shipment to Ukraine were completely burned down. The fire raged for more than two hours and the detonation of ammunition could be heard in neighboring communities. The firefighters were unable to even begin extinguishing the fire precisely because of the explosions. As a result, a fairly large shipment of military aid to the Ukrainian armed forces was completely destroyed.
According to the information of the “Svarshchiki” [Welders] Telegram channel, the Ukrainian resistance movement against Zelensky’s regime, the so-called “Opir” movement, is behind these actions. This is confirmed by photo and video materials from the sabotaged sites.
Last year we were receiving this type of information no more often than once a month. Now the Ukrainian resistance has gained momentum and is causing tangible damage, destroying substations, workshops, logistics facilities, military and infrastructure facilities that are directly involved in providing aid to the Ukrainian armed forces. Geographically, these actions cover the countries of Eastern Europe – Poland, Romania, Bulgaria. There were similar actds in Latvia as well

https://t.me/sitreports/33460

Posted by: Down South | Aug 23 2024 6:33 utc | 344

Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 3:58 utc | 339
A few things, it’s pretty obvious the SCORE!!!! was the NPP. They did not make it. An hour drive down the road. Either they did not have the surprise they thought, or stopped too many times to take pictures/sightseeing(stealing toilets and looting). For your football example, it would be like they pulled their goalie for a full push, and they got both their legs broken, what’s left of the defenders is fertilizing the steppe and the forwards are trying to crawl towards midfield no idea where the ball is even at anymore, leaving the goal(Donbass) wide open.
Nuclear blackmail/terrorism as the apparent primary goal, and what the initial push was towards is quite psychotic. Quite a bit of the world sees that way.
It was Putin-infuriating.
Putin is still keeping to his itinerary, this is infuriating many in the west.
It was an RFAF suck they had not planned on mobilising just then.
It’s a gambit taunt for more RF conscription to thus bring in NATO.
RF is not calling up a mobilization, and recruiting has increased making such less necessary. Politically the conscripts could not participate in the SMO, and if they did, first fights against heavily fortified Donbass would have meant the deaths for many of the new recruits. Live training against a real enemy softened up by combat trained elite troops, in unfortified locations that will not carry the same political ramifications is as good a training ground as you can get. Also NATO is already in.
Also it seemed obvious that at some point Russia was going to push towards Sumy, and Russia was not ready yet. It appears Ukraine pre-empted it with their attack. The result though is more manpower and equipment has been eliminated much quicker than would have ever been expected attacking Sumy.
It’s red line testing.
What were they hoping to provoke an over the top response? Instead they got cool headed slaughter. Well it seems the Chechens are getting a bit over enthusiastic about the situation.
What was the red line anyways? There have been many incursions into Russia proper, all beaten back. A bigger one into a lightly populated area is an escalation that is being handled by conventional means. Russia’s counter escalation is on the front in the east.
It was a near miss for nuclear blackmail.
Claiming showing the world you are psychotic as a plus is not a good thing. You notice more and more countries are keeping Putin and his diplomats busy signing on to counter it? It was a sad thing, but everyone recognizes that Old Yeller needed put down.
It was (no doubt, somewhat) RFAF deflating.
Recruitment up, diplomacy up, amount of trolls trying to contain it up.
It was civilian pissing off, 100k of them.
They have mostly been given places to relocate to, their toilets have been replaced. Those who have had family members killed or taken are pissed at the people who did it. Some of which who streamed such things have been captured, with phones and go-pros intact to give them a nice trial to have accountability for the actions.
It’s yet another post war rebuild expense.
It is mostly rural areas, the largest town is Sudzha, 5000 people. In comparison to rebuilding Mariupol it is nothing. Biggest expense is probably going to be the gas terminal, the customers will pay for that.
It was conscript POW capturing *inside RF* ffs.
And civilians, I seem to recall an incident in the last year where that was condemned world wide as terrorism. Of course that was against a NATO backed country not by one. Capturing unarmed conscripts isn’t a great and glorious feat. It will piss off a whole lot of other conscripts who would have otherwise served their term and went home. I do expect to see a portion of them highly motivated and joining the fray shortly(and armed this time with some excited vets to show them the ropes).
It was MSM crowing.
Who cares, they always are, I suggest turning them off.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 23 2024 6:34 utc | 346

Putin called Evgeny Poddubny, (Russian journalist). who was injured in the Kursk region due to a Ukrainian drone attack, and congratulated him on his birthday, according to the press service of the head of state.
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U.S. Investigates Americans Tied to Russian State Media Ahead of 2024 Elections
The Department of Justice has launched a broad investigation into Americans working with Russian state television, targeting their alleged roles in influence operations ahead of the November elections.
The F.B.I. recently raided the homes of Scott Ritter, a former U.N. weapons inspector, and Dimitri K. Simes, a former adviser to Trump’s 2016 campaign.
The former is being investigated under FARA, and the latter is being investigated for violations of the International Emergency Economic Powers Act.
Both have ties to Russian media outlets like RT and Channel One, with Simes currently hosting a talk show in Russia.
“The only reason why I can believe that they’re doing this is if there’s some national security interest where they believe somehow I am actively conspiring with Russia against the interests of the United States, that I have become more than just a propagandist, that I become something more like, you know, a weapon of disinformation.” – Scott Ritter
§§§
The FSB has opened criminal cases against American journalist Nick Peyton Walsh, as well as Ukrainian correspondents Olesya Borovik and Diana Butsko
Foreign reporters illegally crossed the border and filmed in the Sudzha area; they face up to five years in prison.
§§§§§
Kiev forcibly evacuates families with children from cities and villages of the Pokrovsky district to the DPR
According to the Ukrainian Ministry of Reintegration, we are talking about the settlements of Pokrovsk, Rodinskoye, Ignatovka, Dachenskoye, Zheltoye, Zelenoe, Lysovka, Novopavlovka, Novoukrainka, Pushkino, Rog, Sukhoi Yar, Roza, Chunishino
§§§§
Important infrastructure facilities will be restored at the port of Mariupol
Workers have begun to restore important infrastructure facilities, including a technological support area, a building for a port mechanization base, and a general cargo warehouse. The work is scheduled to be completed by the end of this year.
The restoration of these units will ensure proper working conditions for personnel, enhance the safety of machinery and equipment, and provide conditions for storing up to 12,000 tons of agricultural goods.
The work is funded by both federal and republic budgets.
§§§§
?Payback for Kursk????
>…Joint raid by Russian and Syrian aviation to destroy terrorist hideouts that left the Al-Tanf base
(Everyone knows this is a “U$” base, right?”)
§§§§
?Payback? ?
The largest U.S. oil company, Halliburton, has encountered an “issue” affecting several systems, which is being addressed, according to a statement.
Earlier, media reported that the company had faced a cyberattack.
§§§
? ? Absolutely. No coincidence, right?
>British Maritime Authority:
>A Greek oil tanker was hit by four unknown shells. Control over the ship was lost, and it is drifting while on fire in the Red Sea.
§§§
footage of a Kiev regime attack on Russkaya Konopelka in the Kursk region, where Russian forces completely decimated the AFU assault using armored vehicles, FPV drones, and artillery.
Ukrainian propagandists tried to spin the video, claiming that friendly fire occurred on the Russian side, but they were soon forced to admit the destruction of Ukrainian forces.
Now, however, SHOT, citing a source, reports that mercenaries from the American PMC Forward Observation Group were eliminated in the Kursk region during a Ukrainian Armed Forces attack on Russkaya Konopelka.
The exact number of casualties among the American PMC is still being clarified.
§§§
After half a day, the Ukrainian propagandists had to admit that the BMP-2, which they initially tried to present as Russian “friendly fire,” was actually Ukrainian,

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 6:53 utc | 348

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 23 2024 6:26 utc | 373
It appears that area around Sudzha gas transit station was considered non-contested ground by RU due to ongoing transit contract with UA till end of this year. UA went against RU logic and seized it. Now UA is controlling gas futures and can potentially exploit markets for huge gains. UA is bankrupt and demanding debt restructure.
https://news.liga.net/en/economics/news/satellite-photos-reveal-destruction-at-sudzha-gas-metering-station

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Aug 23 2024 6:59 utc | 350

Big Serge:

To the extent that there is an over-arching strategic logic in Ukraine, I think they are trying to “prove” that NATO forces can enter into direct combat with Russia without a colossal escalation. This is the thread that links their more random strategic choices. (1)
“Look, we invaded Kursk and they didn’t nuke us. We shot a missile at their early warning radar and they didn’t nuke us. We launched a drone at the Kremlin and they didn’t nuke us. It’s all a bluff – feel free to deploy a French armored brigade to Kharkov.” (2)
Ukraine’s mosquito bites obviously don’t pose an existential threat to Russia, but they create the perception that Moscow doesn’t respond to provocation. Useful idiots in the west have already latched on to this. (3)
Ukraine can’t win the war under their own power, but they probably hope that if they can create the perception that Russia has no red lines, the more eager NATO members will ride in to save them and perhaps create an intervention snowball that ends in American deployments. (4)
https://x.com/witte_sergei/status/1826666477237535031

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 7:01 utc | 352

Personally, I’d bet that the General Staff felt relief that at last some of their pre-planned operations could be ordered a go.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 23 2024 4:45 utc | 352
Lol. Oh here we go. You talk like they expected it. Lol. You must have missed the nationally broadcast vid of Gerasimov telling Putin on day 2 (paraphrase) “It’s all ok boss. We’ve stopped them and sent them back over the border”? While I don’t ever pretend to read Putin’s facial expressions, many many here opined he was “clearly a.n.g.r.y.”.
Now,we could suppose he was angry at the West, or at the RF border forces, or Gerasimov himself. But don’t pull my dick and tell me there was no emotional response within the MoD. They first announced “300 DRGs”. Next day, “ooops, maybe 1000”. Next day “looks like 5000”. This week “10 – 15k inside the RF borders”. Don’t try to tell me that they were weren’t haemorrhaging massive surprise plus a touch of panic and urgency to send off an equal number in short time.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 7:07 utc | 354

Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 7:07 utc | 387
I think the Rus MoD correctly reported as Nato forces were fed in in stages. The initial 300 first then another wave then another and it seems to have got to the point various new units are being fed in all the time.
Going by the amount of casualties Nato is taking, total forces fed in to this point would have to be up around 30,000

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 7:11 utc | 356

unimperator | Aug 23 2024 7:17 utc | 390
That has been my view on how Nato achieved surprise. The information from Ritter that units started being pulled out of the frontline a month ago also seems to fit. I assume some forces would have been fed into a widely dispersed staging are in bit and pieces rather than in large formations. All the vehicles rather than say just one per unit were equipped with starlink so a lot of prep went into this.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 7:27 utc | 358

Reggie Meezer
@ReggieMeezer
🇺🇸🇺🇦 US to Announce New $125M Aid Package for Kiev on Friday – Associated Press
It will include air defense missiles, HIMARS, Javelin anti-tank systems, electronic warfare systems, as well as 105mm & 155mm shells and other equipment.

About the only thinks useful in that picnic pack is the artillery shells, and HIMARS if they are aimed at undefended targets.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 7:41 utc | 360

You talk like they expected it. Lol.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 7:07 utc | 387

I’d say they had prepared several plans they were raring to try but some (very strange for them) political considerations have been holding them, and now at last they were free to engage. They are General Officers, they differ emotianally from normal people.
As for Putin being angry – so what. His orders were based not on emotions but on logic.

Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 23 2024 7:51 utc | 362

Ukrainian ex-PM Azarov just said Ukraine’s population is now around 17 million.
https://x.com/SprinterFamily/status/1826389800242589874

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 23 2024 8:03 utc | 364

“Unidentified UAVs fly over the Brunsbüttel nuclear power plant in Germany, and German police cannot determine who sent them. According to German media reports, the authorities believe that these drones are Russian, sent from the North Sea.
The NATO air base Geilenkirchen in Germany has been transferred to a high level of combat readiness. Personnel who were not on duty were ordered to leave the base immediately.”
It appears on the surface the fuckers are determined to have their nuclear “incident”.
ZPP and NPP were a couple of bridges too far, so the Brits may have decided to pick on the dumb Germans instead.

Posted by: Suresh | Aug 23 2024 8:08 utc | 366

Suresh | Aug 23 2024 8:08 utc | 399
That is odd. Desperate times call for desperate measures. A Pearl Harbor on the cards? Evil Russkies to attack a nuclear plant?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 8:13 utc | 368

Going by the amount of casualties Nato is taking, total forces fed in to this point would have to be up around 30,000
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 7:11 utc | 389
Wow. I didnt know it was up that number! No wonder its taking so long to ferret all the little fuckers out. I just wish they had “closed the door in” a bit sooner … but then RF is now taking advantage of them to vastly attrite.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 8:28 utc | 370

I should have added this bit with the Reuters link and headline. I believe this is the larger threat Russia has been watching and holding reserves for.
“Aug 23 (Reuters) – Russia believes that the United States will at some point remove all restrictions on the use of weapons supplied to Ukraine, the RIA news agency cited Russian ambassador to the U.S. Anatoly Antonov as saying on Friday.
“The current administration behaves like a person who extends one hand and holds a dagger behind their back with another one,” Antonov said, describing Washginton’s recent comments about Kyiv not being allowed to use U.S. weapons for strikes deep into Russian territory as “goading”.”

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 8:29 utc | 372

Posted by: Milites | Aug 22 2024 23:53 utc | 272

Clever is not loading the risk, reward scale so that your reward is significantly outweighed by your risk.

Risk-reward scale, a key tool in decision-making under uncertainty. Ukrops contemplating final defeat in the Donbass are loading up on risk because big rewards is their only way to break the current dynamics.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 23 2024 8:31 utc | 374

As for Putin being angry – so what. His orders were based not on emotions but on logic.
Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 23 2024 7:51 utc | 395
Please read and consider my posts more accurately before responding to them in future.
1. *I* did not say “Putin was angry”. I said that many others said that.
2. Whilst Putin and his commanders may well make rational decisions in the General Staff meetings, that DOES NOT MEAN they don’t experience emotional reactions to the initial news of an unexpected incursion into mainland Russia by 30,000 troops, ***especially as it involved numerous crimes against civilians*** and was sponsored by the West. One of the signs of human balance and maturity is to experience both emotional and rational inputs and then know when to use each appropriately as a response.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 8:48 utc | 376

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 23 2024 8:31 utc | 406
Yea, let’s see how it progresses.
Sounds plausible that the Ukraine government wanted some kind of good news for the public to compensate for the bad news of the decisive crush in the direction of the Donbas, so it went into speculative action in Kursk.
As b. wrote before, I thought that it would be in winter that the battlefield would move significantly, as the attack on the power generation infrastructure would make the winter war of attrition even tougher than before for the Ukrainian side anyway.
However, the defence of eastern Ukraine may collapse significantly without waiting for winte

Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 23 2024 8:57 utc | 378

Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 8:48 utc | 409
Putin and his commanders may well make rational decisions in the General Staff meetings, that DOES NOT MEAN they don’t experience emotional reactions to the initial news of an unexpected incursion into mainland Russia by 30,000 troops, ***especially as it involved numerous crimes against civilians*** and was sponsored by the West.
Yep.
And. He’ll be asking: Who fucked up.
Because while it is understood the Kursk Excellent Adventure will be extinguished, that civilians were killed, captured and traumatised is a fuckup.
Protection of citizens is the Number 1 fundamental of a modern nation-state. Especially a Global Power, nuclear armed.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 9:11 utc | 380

Megatron
@Megatron_ron
BREAKING: 🇺🇦🇷🇺Ukraine has just attacked the Kransnodar region for the first time knocking out Russian oil facilities at the port of Kavkaz on the Black Sea. https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1826666280318874070

Video at the link

Will Schryver
@imetatronink
‼️ I don’t believe for a moment that these are “Ukrainian” strikes we’ve seen over the past several hours. These are almost certainly US/NATO strikes.

There was also the strike on the ferry carrying fuel. The propaganda machine say they are Ukie neptune missiles. I think they are telling a bit of a porky there.
The die hard Russia haters are desperate to get the US back in on the fight against Russia but in a far bigger way. With the Ukie cannon fodder barrel showing near empty, that means Nato directly, no longer hiding behind a transparent fig leaf.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 9:32 utc | 382

Wow. I didnt know it was up that number! No wonder its taking so long to ferret all the little fuckers out. I just wish they had “closed the door in” a bit sooner … but then RF is now taking advantage of them to vastly attrite.
Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 8:28 utc | 403
Actually, I think that NATO has lot more than 30k available soldiers (in Poland and the Baltics etc), but are vacillating on how to use them. It would not be practical to sheep dip this entire force so if they are to be used to full effect then NATO would have to declare its fundamental position and openly intervene. Such an overt intervention could have undesirable political consequences- particularly for the US- but might have prevented the relatively rapid collapse and overrunning of the Ukrainian Donbas fortifications over the last few weeks. Even a military amateur can see that this is the most important theatre of operations at present, and the Kursk sideshow -whatever its purpose was/is will be ultimately inconsequential.
The fighting throughout Ukraine will continue at various intensities for some time, but I maintain that the end of this whole Ukrainian debacle will be the complete dismantling of this artificial country.
I don’t mean to belittle the peoples who live there, but the administrative structure of the whole place (originally referred to as “borderlands”) was created over the last 300 years by various Russian “regimes”. The last major addition was of Crimea that was split off Russia and transferred to Ukraine in 1954 by Nikita Khruschev-a Ukrainian President of the USSR-.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 23 2024 9:34 utc | 384

And. He’ll be asking: Who fucked up.
Because while it is understood the Kursk Excellent Adventure will be extinguished, that civilians were killed, captured and traumatised is a fuckup.
Protection of citizens is the Number 1 fundamental of a modern nation-state. Especially a Global Power, nuclear armed.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 9:11 utc | 413
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Yep. As to who fucked up, there’s responsibility to be taken by VVP’s belief/trust that RF invasions “just wouldn’t happen” (on that scale). It’s crossed (supposed) red lines again. Really makes ya wonder what it will take for serious retaliation. An ATACMS into Moscow?
And I wonder if there’s not just a little arogance in the MoD of “we do maskirovka better than them”! That’s why I maintain they got severely embarassed, caught with their pants down by “those NATO fuckers”.
But we all know that RF rolls with the punches and always comes out of its travails for the better.

Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 23 2024 9:36 utc | 386

Extreme example of sock puppet trolling !
Especially that single old fart maudlin pisshead that veers between a gin soaked old drama queen and Ritalin deficient angry child freaking out demanding respect! Taking on multiple names. Just go to bed earlier. You sad old git.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 23 2024 10:00 utc | 388

DunGroanin | Aug 23 2024 10:00 utc | 422
Who’s that?

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 10:11 utc | 390

I’ll just leave this here…
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4839613-another-russian-mercenary-leader-has-turned-against-putin/

Posted by: E. Nonee Moose | Aug 23 2024 10:20 utc | 392

Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 23 2024 10:14 utc | 425
Many thanks, I understood all of that apart from ‘before the reunion of the armored vehicles was 36 hours’, which is what the auto-translate mangled your original words into.
3 days would be the normal self-sufficiency period of mechanised unit, living off their vehicles, but you mentioned a vertical envelopment, which I took to mean helicopters, or is that another casualty of the auto-translate?
Anyway, thank you and could I just ask, which army, which branch, what decade? I seem to remember you mentioning a wine ration, which narrows it down.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 23 2024 10:31 utc | 394

Resident
Zelensky’s Kursk adventure lacks strategy and was done for the sake of PR, in order to shift the focus from the negative situation for the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Donbas.
The operation in Kursk was conceived by the country’s leadership because of the “w … py” at the front and in the economy. The goal was for ” everyone to go nuts.”
At the same time, the strategic goals of the invasion are unclear, Ukrainian Armed Forces officer Dmytro Glushchenko said in one of the broadcasts.
“I think that it (the decision to attack the Kursk region – Ed.) could be as follows. Decision makers are sitting at the table. So what’s the current situation? We look, there is a kind of ass at the front, almost everywhere.
The mood, the population, the economy is a complete ass. The worst thing is the energy, the same ass. Relations with partners are also not very good now, as it were, everything is falling down there.
Everyone has complaints there, we have a lot of corruption, they don’t give us money, they are constantly running out of money. And the worst problem is that the likes are poorly placed. That is, the failure is full of likes.
What should I do? We need to learn something. There were some scary three options. Fly to Mars, can throw an atomic bomb and attack Kursk. How to attack Kursk is the best option. Actually, you also called the military, what can you teach them? We need to unlearn it. Can you? We can practice it, but without Podolyak and without “coffee in Kursk”, ” the military explained.
In his opinion, the military did a “normal operation”, the goal of which, in his opinion, has already been achieved – “everyone is freaking out”.
“The Russians are freaking out, we are freaking out, the Americans are freaking out. The likes went ahead. And then now they are probably sitting and thinking about the second round. Why did we do this? What is the strategic goal? That is, they outline options. We can probably bargain there. You can probably blackmail them there. But this is my opinion, probably from the field of science fiction. Because there are still no clear, clear goals, strategic goals, I mean. Why it was all started, ” – said Glushchenko.
https://t.me/s/rezident_ua

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 23 2024 10:41 utc | 396

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 23 2024 9:11 utc | 413

Because while it is understood the Kursk Excellent Adventure will be extinguished, that civilians were killed, captured and traumatised is a fuckup.

For feminized men and hysterical women observing these events of course it was traumatizing. Pragmatical, cold, reasonable state people and military commanders have to be more circumspect.

Protection of citizens is the Number 1 fundamental of a modern nation-state. Especially a Global Power, nuclear armed.

Nope, citizens die all days for various reasons and a State cannot protect them all, including the impossibility to protect all citizens from terrorist operations as this Ukrainian incursion in Kursk. There is a good reason Russia has launched and anti-terror operation in Kursk. They agree with me (hehehe) that this incursion is more a large terrorist operation than a mini-tiny military offensive.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 23 2024 10:58 utc | 398

❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk Direction: Fighting in Korenevo and Sudzha Districts
What is known as of 1:00 pm on August 23, 2024
The situation remains difficult along the entire line of contact in Kursk Region. The Russian Aerospace Forces’ tactical-operational operation is striking Ukrainian air defense positions in Sumy Region, from where the enemy is deploying reserves.
🔻In Korenevo District, Russian forces are striking enemy positions in the village of Krasnooktyabr’skoye, where the AFU maintain a presence for at least several days. Fighting is also ongoing in the area of Snahost’ and Apanasovka, where Ukrainian formations had previously managed to advance.
🔻In Sudzha District, according to some reports, fighting is taking place directly in Malaya Loknya. Given the recent shelling of Russian positions from a Marder 1A3 BMP in the village, clashes within the settlement’s boundaries had occurred earlier as well.
In Russkaya Konopel’ka, drone operators are finishing off equipment previously abandoned by the enemy in the village. At the moment, combat engagements continue in the area of the settlement.
🔻Simultaneously, since morning, reports have been published about the AFU’s attempt to attack the Kursk Nuclear Power Plant with a drone. The network has published footage of the wreckage of an FPV drone, allegedly shot down near the spent nuclear fuel storage facility.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17181

Posted by: Down South | Aug 23 2024 11:05 utc | 400