I thought the Chinese visit to Moscow might all be gas-related, but there are military too.
Russian Ministry of Defense:
A protocol meeting was held between Deputy Minister of Defence of the Russian Federation, Colonel General Alexander Fomin, and the Commander of the Ground Forces of the People’s Liberation Army of China, Colonel General Li Qiaoming.
During the conversation, the parties discussed current issues of bilateral military cooperation of mutual interest.
Colonel General Li Qiaoming is in the Russian Federation on a working visit at the invitation of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Ground Forces.
https://t.me/llordofwar/368013

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 22 2024 9:33 utc | 3

🪖 Kursk region.
The situation is tense, but under control of the Russian Armed Forces. There were attacks from Vishnevka to Komarovka, but they were unsuccessful for the enemy. There were also attempts to attack Korenevo, but they were repelled. In Tyotkino, everything is complicated by the fact that the enemy is attacking the towers, with the aim of leaving them without communication. In Sverdlikovo, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are pulling together personnel, apparently with the aim of going to Korenevo and Komarovka.
The enemy has begun to probe from all directions, looking for weak spots. Our aviation is working closely. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are regrouping forces in front of Korenevo, Olgovka and Komarovka. They are bringing in ammunition and changing personnel, evacuating the wounded.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces do not abandon hope to wedge themselves behind Olgovka between Korenevo, to bypass Korenevo from the East or North-East. They have begun to use precision projectiles and precision MLRS more often.
n.p. Komarovka – yesterday evening the enemy attempted to enter the settlement, 1 tank, 2 BMPs. They opened up in advance and destroyed 2 BMPs with FPV infantry on the approach, and a tank already directly near the settlement. Then 2 BMPs managed to get close to the combat formations and 1 BMP with personnel was destroyed.

https://t.me/two_majors/30114

Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2024 9:37 utc | 5

titmouse | Aug 22 2024 9:56 utc | 7
Nato is throwing too much cannon fodder into this attack not to have any point behind it, and rather than just partialy trained and equipped canon fodder, these are the better or elite forces that are being burned. Rus MoD tally I posted in the other thread but up around 4,500 of the better troops destroyed to date and they are still attacking.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 22 2024 10:01 utc | 7

Dima claimed a third of AFU is concentrated in the area bordering Belgorod, Kursk and Bryansk. What this actually means is uncertain but sounds like a massive commitment.
Maybe it’s actually not the AFU, but it’s actually the Polish army?

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 22 2024 10:33 utc | 9

Russia is under attack for two weeks but they are not increasing a number of soldiers around Kursk as Ukraine is still able to attack deeper. How is it possible that Russians cannot see Ukro army constantly crossing their border.
Isn’t that strange?
What is a secret of Ukro high motivation? Money or ideology?

Posted by: vargas | Aug 22 2024 10:38 utc | 11

Johan Kaspar | Aug 22 2024 10:35 utc | 10
I posted this in the last thread. Not sure if you saw it or not but will post again here anyway.
……….
Because the Ukie channels had said the main attack was to be to the south and the F16s hadn’t been used I have assumed Russia was holding back reserves to face that. In the north, Russia, one the civilians have been evacuated is willing to concede territory rather than throw more reserves in.
But a number of things make me think Russia is waiting something far bigger. Tactical nuke exercises with Belarus. Warning the Europeans that if Russia was attacked by a European Nato force it would use tactical nukes. The Biden admin telling the nuke subs to prepare for three front nuclear war.
Its like nato want to provoke Russia into making a move that it can use to initiate war with Russia and Russia is waiting for them to make the first move.
Russian intel, although Nato did manage a small surprise at Kursk – is very good, particularly when it comes to Nato’s intentions.
Perhaps I wrong but there seems something much larger is at play here.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 22 2024 10:44 utc | 13

vargas | Aug 22 2024 10:38 utc | 11
The question to ask rather is why is Nato willing to burn so much equipment and troops on this.
Volunteer enlistment has for a long time now been far larger than casualty rate so Russia has a large reserve force somewhere that it is holding back in readiness for something else. Russia is obviously watching a far larger threat.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 22 2024 10:48 utc | 15

🪂 Kursk region.
The enemy has nevertheless penetrated into Vishnevka , and the Ukrainians are also putting pressure on Komarovka and Krasnooktyabrskoye. Enemy groups reached Aleksandrovka.
Fierce fighting is taking place near Malaya Loknya , the Ukrainians are trying to surround the settlement, ours are fighting back and raining artillery and aerial bombs on the advancing forces.
The enemy has driven Bradleys up to the village and is shelling our positions, which once again confirms that our forces have complete control over the village.
There were many conflicting reports about Martynovka yesterday; the enemy’s entry into the village has not been confirmed.
Artillerymen of the Russian Armed Forces are working on the infiltrated groups of Nazis in Russkaya Konopelka ; under air control, we identify houses in which the Ukrainians are hiding and strike.
According to objective data, the enemy penetrated the settlement from the northern side.
The enemy’s two armored vehicles were met by an armored personnel carrier of the Russian Armed Forces, a battle ensued, our armored vehicles were damaged, but the soldiers managed to take cover.
In the village itself there are a large number of grey zones, despite the local presence of the enemy, the Ukros do not maintain complete control, the situation in the area is dynamic.
The village of Nechaev was liberated from the Nazis by the forces of Pyatnashka, Sarmat and Arbat.
https://t.me/two_majors/30111
Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2024 9:32 utc | 2
Nato is throwing too much cannon fodder into this attack not to have any point behind it, and rather than just partialy trained and equipped canon fodder, these are the better or elite forces that are being burned. Rus MoD tally I posted in the other thread but up around 4,500 of the better troops destroyed to date and they are still attacking.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 22 2024 10:01 utc | 7
As per posted information I would say (concerning the sudzha entry point, the others are not as clear)
AFU currently on a 25-30 km radius (they’re still pushing so I agree that they’re throwing more and more assets into the fray)
AFU tried other insertions, namely western limit of E38, and others between that one and the Sudzha one.
RF main counter drive on a 40-50 km radius from the intersection of E38 with R200 (as far as I can tell)
RF secondary counter drive maybe a 30 km radius from Rylsk I can be wrong but the simplest forms are these ones.
Hope someone finds it interesting

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 10:52 utc | 17

The Ukrainian Armed Forces do not abandon hope to wedge themselves behind Olgovka between Korenevo, to bypass Korenevo from the East or North-East. They have begun to use precision projectiles and precision MLRS more often.
Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2024 9:37 utc | 5
This makes sense if you see the two circles of RF counter drive then Olgovka (and east of it) is a weak/empty spot between the two.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 10:56 utc | 19

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 22 2024 10:44 utc | 13
Thanks for reposting that for me to read.
According to my experience, the most salient feature of our political leaders is incompetence, pettyness and narcissism, and those features do not go together with the stamina needed to go all out against a powerful enemy. Our leaders clearly do not want to go to war with Russia.
So if there is any other move like the Kursk incursion or worse, as you suspect it is in the pipeline, it will be carried out thru ukrop pawns and judging from the level of attrition already achieved it will be on the same scale as that of Kursk.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 22 2024 11:12 utc | 21

20 – If there are a significant number of Poles, eventually some are going to be taken prisoner. Poles are a bit distinctive in a Russian/Ukrainian setting, after all. It would be an opportunity to put them on display for Russian TV cameras.
To me the obvious weakening of Donbass defences to pursue their Kursk adventure is an invitation to Russia to take the entire Donbass. But an additional mobilisation may be necessary to deal with Kursk and stop Kiev/NATO getting frisky.

Posted by: Waldorf | Aug 22 2024 11:19 utc | 23

Johan Kaspar | Aug 22 2024 11:12 utc | 21
This also one of my comments from the last thread in response to LightYearsFromHome in respose to – “The true scale of the enterprise caught the peanut gallery and maybe the Putin admin by surprise in 2022, or maybe it was a timeline miscalculation for Putin and the MoD, but the shock still permeates people’s sensibilities”
………..
Putin has prepared for this, but I think the pure hatred, the craziness of their disregard for the consequences of nuclear war – I think it is the she level of hatred and craziness that has shocked the Russians. They are basically dealing with an enemy that is completely insane.
…………………….
We also see Boris Johnson calling for the US to allow strikes deep into Russia and I think now liverwurst Scholz saying the same.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 22 2024 11:26 utc | 25

A drama is unfolding in Donbass, when the Armed Forces of Ukraine, abandoned in every sense, retreat under the onslaught of the Russian Armed Forces, and the Ukrainian command continues to saturate the “Kursk adventure” with manpower and equipment. Naturally, the current situation is causing a storm of indignation among the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who were simply thrown “to the slaughter” – the Donbass groups were deprived of their rear and their ammunition supplies were sharply reduced.
As a result, we are witnessing the continuing collapse of the Ukrainian defense and the advance of Russian troops in Donbass. The weakness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine leads to the fact that they may soon lose the strategically important city of Pokrovsk, which, in turn, will create a real threat of losing other settlements held by the Ukrainian army. Thus, after the capture of Pokrovsk, the Russian troops will have an opening to bypass all Ukrainian fortifications on the territory of the Donetsk region.
And everything is heading in this direction – recently, Russian forces in Donbass have been successfully developing an offensive in the direction of the cities of Toretsk and Pokrovsk. Along this route, a number of populated areas have already come under Russian control (the Russian Armed Forces have effectively taken control of New York, and in the same Pokrovsk direction, Ukrainian forces have abandoned the villages of Mezhevoye, Skuchnoye, and Zhuravka).

https://t.me/rezident_ua/24024

Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2024 11:34 utc | 27

https://t.me/llordofwar/368000

The ukraine armed forces took full control of the Krasnoctobyarskye, Kursk region.
The land connection with the southern bank of the Seym River in the Glushkovsky district is now completely cut off.
t.me/llordofwar/368000

Russia isn’t dislodging Ukraine/NATO from it’s lands any time soon. It just keeps getting worse.

Posted by: bored | Aug 22 2024 11:36 utc | 29

Putin has prepared for this, but I think the pure hatred, the craziness of their disregard for the consequences of nuclear war – I think it is the she level of hatred and craziness that has shocked the Russians. They are basically dealing with an enemy that is completely insane.
…………………….
We also see Boris Johnson calling for the US to allow strikes deep into Russia and I think now liverwurst Scholz saying the same.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 22 2024 11:26 utc | 25
And they knew it, luckily the main condition is “that cannot be dealt with conventionally”
“Criteria for a potential nuclear response range from an enemy incursion on Russian territory to more specific triggers, such as the destruction of 20 per cent of Russia’s strategic ballistic missile submarines.
“This is the first time that we have seen documents like this reported in the public domain,” said Alexander Gabuev, director of the Carnegie Russia Eurasia Center in Berlin. “They show that the operational threshold for using nuclear weapons is pretty low if the desired result can’t be achieved through conventional means.”
”
FT february source

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 11:44 utc | 31

Dima, Military Summary Channel, is talking about Ukraine have gathered a massive army on the Ukrainian side of Kursk. 30% of all Ukrainian forces. What’s the truth on this?

Posted by: Rune Denmark | Aug 22 2024 11:46 utc | 33

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 11:44 utc | 31
Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2024 11:36 utc | 30
Regarding ‘permission to strike Russia with western weapons’.
There never was any ‘restriction’ since day 0 any weapon was received. The only limiting factor was the availability of targets AND the ability to use weapons in Russia. This is complete BS fabrication (again) by the western media to create an illusion that some sort of artificial restrictions prevented use in Russia. There never was non.
Obviously, the way it works in the real world is if you used a weapon in one place (Russia), you didn’t use it in another place (like defending Pokrovsk or Chasov Yar). We know these weapons are mostly used to create headlines. Like AFU exposed and lost 2 or 3 Himars systems just to hit a few bridges near Glushkovo and Seym.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 22 2024 11:48 utc | 35

And another !
https://www.flightradar24.com/ETD98V/36c0a06d

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 22 2024 11:50 utc | 37

Regarding ‘permission to strike Russia with western weapons’.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 22 2024 11:48 utc | 35
I didn’t say anything about that, on the one hand I agree with your assessment on many targets so few weapons.
On the other hand doing anything serious deeper in RF territory with those weapons would mean putting the platforms in harms way (as we’ve recently seen with the HIMAR, MLRS and Su-27 they lost recently)

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 11:54 utc | 39

Posted by: bored @ 29
They AFU is hanging tough, they are desperate for Russia to pull troops out of the Donbas, they are going to make it work, just like Robotino and Krynki. If the Russians are undermanned then they will do like Robotino and Krynki, hold the line and attrit, sacrifice Kursk, and if necessary Bryansk and Belgorod, looks totally like shit, it’s on Russian land and might last months, might last a year. NATO wants them to rush into disaster, has been the plan over and over and over from the start, it’s the UK/USA way for all their wars, rinse and repeat but it’s not how the Russians fight, nor the North Koreans, nor the Vietnamese, nor the Afghans. What do they all have in common???
BTW if it was going well for the AFU they wouldn’t have blown up the bridges, they would either have needed them to advance or they would have wanted to orcs to come at them. The AFU is on the back foot.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 22 2024 11:57 utc | 41

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 22 2024 10:33 utc | 9
Operation Gotterdammerung, catchy name, stupid strategy, suggestive of desperation at their situation, possible disaster (one army group appears on each flank), possible deception operation. If NATO approved then a suicide pill they’ve been forced to swallow to rapidly end the war. Doubt Polish units directly involved, the West would loose Ukraine and Poland! Might be the first offensive largely defeated by air-launched weapons, since 1972, wonder if the Russians have the strategic bomber capability to conduct Arclightski strikes!

Posted by: Milites | Aug 22 2024 11:59 utc | 43

The phenomenon these authors describe is an anti-reformist sedative pedalled unceasingly by Empire scions of all stripes, be they YouTube blusterers, forum whores or glowie émigrés.
https://t.me/mig41/36346

You shouldn’t believe Western authors about how bad everything is for these Ukrainian Armed Forces. And that Ukraine will freeze or collapse tomorrow or the day after. Especially since it’s still hot summer outside.
The only goal of such publications is to immerse us in destructive complacency.
This doesn’t mean that they are lying. But they place such emphasis precisely for this purpose.

https://t.me/MedvedevVesti/18353

^^^^ It’s some kind of national political disease for us – to read Western media, find pleasant information there and draw positive, pleasant conclusions from it.
“Retired General John Zhopkins believes that Ukraine has no chance in this war.” “Former military analyst Matthew Svinopiskin said that the offensive in the Kursk region is Zelensky’s adventure.” And so on and so forth.
And this crap is translated, gets into news feeds, into publications, experts rush to discuss what this means. Sometimes I think with horror, what if all this gets into reports sent to high offices, what if some conclusions are really made on the basis of this?
Even serious publications today, like Bloomberg, are used to create an information fog in an information-psychological war. But okay, what do they use. Why do we believe it? There is something in this, from the times of the USSR, when people listened to the banned BBC at night and thought that propaganda was only on Central Television, while from London they were telling the pure truth. I don’t know how to explain the phenomenal trust in the Western press. More precisely, it’s not so. A phenomenal desire not to look for really sensible, analytical articles/reports in the Western media, not to approach publications with a critical assessment, but to catch the positive that pleases the heart, and believe in it .
What’s good about Western analytics is its openness. What Stratfor writes, or the Foreign Policy Initiative, or PNAC, or some Robert Kagan, or ISW wrote
is in the public domain. That is, take it and read it. This is the analytics that is the basis for the American establishment. Everything they think, they write openly. Because they are confident in themselves, and even self-assured.
In essence, Edward Luttwak’s manual on Maidans and coups, “Coup d’état,” was written God knows when. Go ahead and read it. Or Brzezinski. Anyone. Kristol’s book on the Iraq war fully reflects the neocons’ and the US politicians’ perception of the world in general. “Saddam’s Tyranny and America’s Mission.”
But analytics are difficult reading. And unpleasant. Because they can write there about how Russia has already stumbled, and where, and how it can make mistakes in the future.
Yes, analytics are not the truth. And not necessarily, they are accurate. And sometimes in the US they are even very biased. And think tank reports are not a forecast, but rather a trend, this is not something that will definitely happen, it is about what the Americans want it to happen. And despite all the shortcomings, it is still much more useful to read critical reasoning (often inaccurate and incorrect) from malicious Russophobes from ISW about the actions of the Russian army than to admire yet another revelation of an unknown former Western military man about the imminent collapse of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

https://t.me/grigorov_prav/3696

^^^^ This complacency is very harmful, as if nothing can be done for Victory and everything will happen by itself.
Even if you remember your history, military history, then even after the turning point in the war in the Battle of Stalingrad and on the Kursk Bulge, the enemy was very strong, mistakes and excessive offensive optimism were not forgiven. You can also remember the difficult battles for Kharkov, which we eventually took more than once. And the unsuccessful breakthrough in 1943 to Zaporozhye, and the most difficult forcing of the Dnieper, and the German counteroffensive on Kiev after its liberation. And the race of military technologies did not even think of stopping.
And most importantly, a serious attitude to the enemy is saving the lives of your soldiers and civilians. Our enemy is evil, cunning, insidious, technological, looking for reasons to raise military will, ready for literally anything.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 22 2024 12:09 utc | 45

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 22 2024 11:57 utc | 42
Posted by: jared | Aug 22 2024 12:12 utc | 47
I agree for the AFU the push will come to the North towards and around Bryanksk, and why not, if Putin isnt prepared to commit troops to defend the area.
Its almost guaranteed that this is where they will go next

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 22 2024 12:22 utc | 47

Mario | Aug 22 2024 11:55 utc | 41
“All of this Ukraine kursk operation reminds me of the last summer counteroffensive.”
Indeed, after that one also the kokhols were supposed to be on their last legs. Lots of other times too.

Posted by: flying dutchman | Aug 22 2024 12:30 utc | 49

In the mundane and vulgar ordinary 2D chess there is a rule of thumb:
When attacked,don’t move your pawns.
The Russians are clearly expecting something they obviously know about.
The Khokhols want to escalate. What could be the most spectacular escalation stunt?
Invading Belarus of course.

Posted by: Catilina | Aug 22 2024 12:38 utc | 51

If you were the Russians would you prefer your enemy out in the open where with air superiority you can take them on or hiding in bunkers such as the below:

🖼️🇺🇦 AFU Fortifications in the Pokrovsk Direction: How the Operational Crisis Neutralizes the Advantages of the AFU’s Defensive Lines — Rybar’s Analysis
The rapid advance of Russian forces in the Pokrovsk direction often encounters fierce resistance from the enemy, who has equipped hundreds of kilometers of fortifications in the occupied part of the DPR. Most of the AFU’s fortifications are platoon and company strongpoints with a developed fire control system and camouflage, turning each assault on such a fortification into a separate operation.
Sometimes, the Russian units even encounter fortifications that are truly monstrous in size, playing the role of key nodes in the AFU’s defense.
▪️A prime example is the large strongpoint east of Zhelanne Pershe, captured by the Russian Armed Forces in July. This defensive node was built to become an impassable obstacle for the Russian units.
A large system of trenches and firing points, covered by UAVs and artillery, can stop advances for a long time. Even smaller fortifications can hold back advances on entire sections of the front for years.
🔻Nevertheless, the strongpoint east of Novoselivka Persha was taken by the Russian troops in less than a week. In the operational crisis, this defensive node became a huge target for Russian aviation and drones.
An additional factor was that the Russian assault units attacked from the northeast, neutralizing many advantages of the fortification.
Coordinates: 48.215605, 37.475699
▪️Another large AFU strongpoint was encountered southwest of Tymofiyivka, covering the crossing over the Kazennyi Torets river. Without established communication and air cover, the strongpoint was taken by the Russian Armed Forces within a few days.
Coordinates: 48.276491, 37.479241
🔻Many of the advantages of the enemy’s fortifications are lost in the conditions of an operational crisis. Even the most powerful defensive positions become easy targets for Russian assault troops.
A separate problem is the low morale and psychological state of the Ukrainian units.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17160
There is allegedly 30,000 UAF in Kursk. How long would it have take to dislodge them from the above mentioned bunkers?

Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2024 12:41 utc | 53

He also has knowledge of the invisible supply network they will use to shift the 10K tonnes daily of supplies they’ll consume. I remain sceptical, sounds like something a wargamed would pull off.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 22 2024 12:22 utc | 50
Some lancet units wisely positioned should avoid any repeats on serious axis (and before they’re deployed some heavy drone reconnaissance). Particularly if something is seen (as it was in Sumy)
But as I said at 12:31 (53) I believe that train has left the station and what we are seeing is a doubling down on Kursk and, quite reasonable, efforts by the AFU to avoid counter wedging and a lidded cauldron.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 12:42 utc | 55

If you look up the locations reported in this RUMOD report, you notice the events took mostly place still on villages very close to the border, SW of Snagost, and just east of Koronevo. And aviation seems to be causing mass casualties.
On one hand the Kursk invasion is scary, on the other hand it exposed and brought forward a large part of the AFU reserves much closer where they can be hit.

⚡️The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to repel the AFU attempt to invade the territory of the Russian Federation.
Units of the Sever Group of Forces supported by Army Aviation and artillery fire repelled attacks launched by assault detachments towards Komarovka and Malaya Loknya, as well as thwarted the enemy’s attacks in the direction of Korenevo, Martynovka, Olgovka, and Russkoye Porechnoye.
The AFU losses have amounted to more than 45 Ukrainian troops killed and wounded, one tank and four armoured fighting vehicles have been destroyed.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue reconnaissance and search operations to locate and eliminate the enemy small sabotage and reconnaissance groups attempting to get to the depth of the Russian territory. In a forest belt 1 kilometre south-west of Skrylevka, one sabotage and reconnaissance group of the AFU 82nd Air Assault Brigade was located and eliminated. Two armoured fighting vehicles and seven Ukrainian troops were eliminated, one Ukrainian serviceman was taken prisoner.
Aviation and artillery strikes and actions of troops inflicted losses on manpower and hardware clusters of the AFU 22nd, 115th mechanised, and 82nd Air Assault Brigade near Apanasovka, Borki, Vishnyovka, Gordeyevka, Mikhailovka, Plekhovo, Snagost, and Loknya.
Operational-Tactical Aviation delivered strikes at the enemy’s reserves in concentration areas of manpower and hardware of the AFU 22nd, 41st, 61st mechanised brigades, 80th, 82nd air assault brigades, 1st National Guard Brigade, 103rd, 106th, 107th, and 119th territorial defence brigades as well as 69th Rifle Battalion in Sumy region near Basovka, Boyaro-Lezhachi, Vorozhba, Druzhba, Zhuravka, Krasnopolye, Katerinovka, Miropolskoye, Loknya, Obody, Pervomayskoye, Sumy, Starikovo, and Chernevoye.
Over the past 24 hours, the AFU losses have amounted to more than 300 Ukrainian troops and 23 units of hardware, including three tanks, 20 armoured fighting vehicles, one artillery gun, and 15 motor vehicles.
Since the beginning of hostilities in Kursk region, the AFU losses amounted more than 4,700 Ukrainian troops, 68 tanks, 27 infantry fighting vehicles, 53 armoured personnel carriers, 336 armoured fighting vehicles, 148 motor vehicles, 32 artillery guns, five SAM launchers, ten MLRS launchers, including three of HIMARS system and one of MLRS system, six electronic warfare stations, as well as four units of engineering vehicles, including two counterobstacle vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearing vehicle.
The operation to neutralise the AFU units is in progress.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 22 2024 12:49 utc | 57

22.08.2024 (14:25)
Russian Defence Ministry report on repelling an invasion attempt of the AFU on the territory of the Russian Federation (22 August 2024)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue to repel the AFU attempt to invade the territory of the Russian Federation.
Units of the Sever Group of Forces supported by Army Aviation and artillery fire repelled attacks launched by assault detachments towards Komarovka and Malaya Loknya, as well as thwarted the enemy’s attacks in the direction of Korenevo, Martynovka, Olgovka, and Russkoye Porechnoye.
The AFU losses have amounted to more than 45 Ukrainian troops killed and wounded, one tank and four armoured fighting vehicles have been destroyed.
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue reconnaissance and search operations to locate and eliminate the enemy small sabotage and reconnaissance groups attempting to get to the depth of the Russian territory. In a forest belt 1 kilometre south-west of Skrylevka, one sabotage and reconnaissance group of the AFU 82nd Air Assault Brigade was located and eliminated. Two armoured fighting vehicles and seven Ukrainian troops were eliminated, one Ukrainian serviceman was taken prisoner.
Aviation and artillery strikes and actions of troops inflicted losses on manpower and hardware clusters of the AFU 22nd, 115th mechanised, and 82nd Air Assault Brigade near Apanasovka, Borki, Vishnyovka, Gordeyevka, Mikhailovka, Plekhovo, Snagost, and Loknya.
Operational-Tactical Aviation delivered strikes at the enemy’s reserves in concentration areas of manpower and hardware of the AFU 22nd, 41st, 61st mechanised brigades, 80th, 82nd air assault brigades, 1st National Guard Brigade, 103rd, 106th, 107th, and 119th territorial defence brigades as well as 69th Rifle Battalion in Sumy region near Basovka, Boyaro-Lezhachi, Vorozhba, Druzhba, Zhuravka, Krasnopolye, Katerinovka, Miropolskoye, Loknya, Obody, Pervomayskoye, Sumy, Starikovo, and Chernevoye.
Over the past 24 hours, the AFU losses have amounted to more than 300 Ukrainian troops and 23 units of hardware, including three tanks, 20 armoured fighting vehicles, one artillery gun, and 15 motor vehicles.
Since the beginning of hostilities in Kursk region, the AFU losses amounted to up to 4,700 Ukrainian troops, 68 tanks, 27 infantry fighting vehicles, 53 armoured personnel carriers, 336 armoured fighting vehicles, 148 motor vehicles, 32 artillery guns, five SAM launchers, ten MLRS launchers, including three of HIMARS system and one of MLRS system, six electronic warfare stations, as well as four units of engineering vehicles, including two counterobstacle vehicles and one UR-77 mine clearing vehicle.
The operation to neutralise the AFU units is in progress.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 22 2024 12:51 utc | 59

> Looks like many people have had their user names stolen by these Paid Nato Trolls
That’s so silly. Does anybody really think anything going on here matters to the war? Basically, I just don’t understand people who are interested in shills.
In any case, I heard Dima. Then I read Big Serge’s Substack. Where he analyses the current Kursk invasion, and come to the conclusion that it best can be described as a kampfgruppe cobbled together from other units. And I find it doubtful the Ukrainians could cobble together a massive army in this way. On the other hand, the current Kurst invasion did take me by surprise.
So I was looking for other views.

Posted by: Rune Denmark | Aug 22 2024 12:54 utc | 61

Big Serge provides the most intelligent, comprehensive analysis I’ve yet encountered, with a heaping helping of the puzzlement which provokes my curiosity: Krepost is evidently very costly for NATO — in men, equipment, and in time-left. None of the strategic justifications on offer make any sense or headway, individually or collectively.
So then: (1) For heaven’s sake, why? (2) How long can they delay the total collapse of AFU, after this senseless debacle? (3) Whose breathtakingly stupid idea was this, anyway? Scott Ritter, Gilbert Doctorow, and Larry Johnson also have their ears to the railroad tracks. Some truth warriors are still at it, making good trouble at great personal risk.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 22 2024 12:46 utc | 60
It’s been a while since we saw you.
1. Yes, serge doesn’t see the why because nuclear blackmail (against ukraines allies/masters more than against RF) is out of his reasonable views
2. Already said it several times, February 2025 if Z is able to pull off his final high-school draft. November 2024 if not.
3. Everybody’s pointing its finger at GB (and they’re willing to take the fall for it), but who has elections in November? As usual cui bono helps in any analysis…
My 2 cents

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 12:57 utc | 63

Indeed, after that one also the kokhols were supposed to be on their last legs. Lots of other times too.
Posted by: flying dutchman | Aug 22 2024 12:30 utc | 52
That’s why they are using so many Polish, French, British and American legs now.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 22 2024 13:07 utc | 65

In any case, I heard Dima. Then I read Big Serge’s Substack. Where he analyses the current Kursk invasion, and come to the conclusion that it best can be described as a kampfgruppe cobbled together from other units. And I find it doubtful the Ukrainians could cobble together a massive army in this way. On the other hand, the current Kurst invasion did take me by surprise.
So I was looking for other views.
Posted by: Rune Denmark | Aug 22 2024 12:54 utc | 65
He assumed 8.000 strong, that number doesn’t hold, tomorow we’ll be reaching 5.000 “destroyed” AFU. That would mean much more (2-3 times) than 8.000 out of order (permanently or temporarily)
I love Serge’s pearls, they appear seldom but are always a pleasure to read (be it about the SMO or history) but on this one I can’t help feeling he missed a couple of things (kursk AfU force size and objectives, mainly)
Maybe he’s too reasonable a man to indulge in some outright stupid choices. Probably has a “retard cut-off” on what Z can dream, while z is by his piano singing “to dream… the impossible dream…”
Now that you made me remember the song, maybe Z’s bolthole after this is mars, maybe he called Elon and asked for a ticket (I doubt he’ll survive on this planet when this is over)
To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
To run where the brave dare not go
To right the unrightable wrong
To love pure and chaste from afar
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star
This is my quest to follow that star
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far
To fight for the right without question or pause
To be willing to march into hell for a heavenly cause
And I know if I’ll only be true to this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I’m laid to my rest
And the world will be better for this
That one man, scorned and covered with scars
Still strove with his last ounce of courage
To fight the unbeatable foe
To reach the unreachable star

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 13:10 utc | 67

Zelensky arrived infront of green screen replaced with the border region of Sumy Oblast
Peter AU1 | Aug 22 2024 11:13 utc | 22
Fixed it.

Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 22 2024 13:15 utc | 69

Posted by: Rune Denmark | Aug 22 2024 12:54 utc | 65
A Kobblekamfgruppen, or Kkg, for short.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 22 2024 13:16 utc | 71

Posted by: Night Tripper | Aug 22 2024 10:39 utc | 12
And yes, I assume its mainly the Polish army.
Very likely absolutely correct- but probably with some British “advisors”/mercs.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 22 2024 13:23 utc | 73

Posted by: GW | Aug 22 2024 13:28 utc | 78
Well, this guy, an American fighting with ukrops, is saying ukrops are lazy and incompetent fuckups:
https://x.com/RyanO_ChosenCoy/status/1824485584800453031

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 22 2024 13:32 utc | 75

reply to 76
After many days of fighting, we are still left with no clear idea as to what the Ukr.Kursk force is and this is disturbing. RT talked about a couple thousand. Then there were claims of six brigades. Then, we heard the Chechens say 12K. Now, we’re back to up to 30K, maybe.
Serge seems credible but he doesn’t flesh out the effect of bridges destroyed in Kursk – as to how bad this is for Russia in moving forces. Ukraine can move suicidially while Russia struggles.
Ukraine’s loss of armor is a big factor for its future. And I think the numbers here are credible because they must be a lot easier to count.
It is frustrating to read headlines that speak of “collapse” in Donbass – when that hasn’t happened. It looks bad when contrasted with areas still dominated in Kursk, together with small gains. Chasov Yar? Kharkiv? Even Pokrovsky. It’s still slow going. I think Putin’s authority is more likely weakened by the frustration of ordinary Russians than the present seemingly glacial pace.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 22 2024 13:37 utc | 77

…..analogy, not apology, though both are somewhat inter-changeable, given the context.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 22 2024 13:44 utc | 79

Posted by: GW | Aug 22 2024 13:28 utc | 78
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How likely is it that the Russians are getting strategic information from Sky News?
Western propaganda is for Western consumers.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 22 2024 13:46 utc | 81

Newbie | Aug 22 2024 12:57 utc | 67
“Yes, serge doesn’t see the why because nuclear blackmail (against ukraines allies/masters more than against RF) is out of his reasonable views.”
I also noted that realm where his thinking is boxed. He simply doesn’t comprehend what nihilist psychopaths Zelensky and his Nazi colleagues are, that they’d think nothing of irradiating all of southeast Europe. (The whole world, if they can. They are seeking to bring full-scale nuclear war, after all. And the entire West is seriously flirting with taking the plunge. It’ll take just a little while longer for them truly to warm up to the idea. To correct a common slogan, time is on the nukes’ side.)

Posted by: flying dutchman | Aug 22 2024 13:52 utc | 83

Kobblekampfgruppe Stoltenberg seems to be suffering Peiper’s fate, constantly pushed away from its objective and always at risk of having its supply lines cut. The trouble with the apology is that he was only part of a massive offensive, do the Ukrainians have a massive offensive ready, if so, why wait 16 days before launching the main thrust, completely losing the element of surprise.
I think this offensive, incursion, bluffer, raid is half-cocked, half-hearted, half-thought through, half baked, half-witted. So Kkg Stoltenberg launches Operation Half, makes sense now.
Posted by: Milites | Aug 22 2024 13:41 utc | 82
They tried , early, but the Rilsky road was secured.
That would have allowed a drive north and heading east to make a pincer with the original drive.
Later they also tried belgorad, assuming troops of the new army would have gone west… they also found too much resistance.
Guess not as much half as third.
Added bonus, the X, 10x, 100x, has failed again on 10x , vehicles (not tanks ) are now at 75% of previous days
There’s still meat and tanks, but are having problems in other mech stuff.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 22 2024 14:02 utc | 85

So far all Kursk prisoners are Ukrainians. Apti said that they did not check all killed soldiers.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 22 2024 14:05 utc | 87

⚡️ 🇷🇺 Kursk Bulge, operational situation 22.08, 15:00.
What is known at the moment:
Fighting continues in various directions in the Kursk region. The enemy does not abandon attempts to break through the defense in Korenevo, bypassing the settlement from different sides ;
▪️In the Glushkovsky district, the situation remains unchanged – the Ukrainian Armed Forces are attacking the crossings that the Russian army is building, but they are in no hurry to cross the border in this area;
❗️In the Sudzhansky district, the enemy is digging in in the occupied territories. During the night, the enemy did not take active actions in this direction;
▪️In the Bolshesoldatsky district, the village of Nechayev and its environs were liberated from the occupiers;
▪️The most intense fighting of the past day took place in the Korenevsky direction. Yesterday, information appeared on the Internet about a defeated enemy column in the village of Vishnevka. It is likely that the settlements of Snagost, Byakhovo and Apanasovka are under enemy control;
▪️In Kursk, they have begun to build reinforced concrete fortifications in places where people gather in large numbers. Similar structures are going to be installed in Kurchatov and Zheleznogorsk;
▪️ Denis Manturov said that 115 thousand people have been resettled from dangerous border areas. He also said that the Cabinet of Ministers has prepared a decision to allocate 1.9 billion rubles for the Ministry of Emergency Situations due to the situation in the border regions;
▪️A video of a point-blank battle between a Russian BMP-3 and Ukrainian troops in the village of Russkaya Konopelka has appeared online. The video contains contradictory information – it is not entirely clear whose BMP-2 was hit by fire from a BMP-3. Some are inclined to believe that the identification mark on the “two” is a “V”, while others believe that it is an inverted triangle;
❗️Vladimir Putin supported the idea of ​​financing territorial defense in the Bryansk region at the expense of the federal budget. Also, the Governor of the Belgorod region Gladkov stated that the region has its own territorial defense, numbering up to 6 thousand people;
The FSB has opened criminal cases for illegally crossing the border in the Kursk region in the Sudzha area against American journalist Nick Peyton Walsh, as well as Ukrainian correspondents Olesya Borovik and Diana Butsko. The journalists who illegally crossed the border in Sudzha will be put on the international wanted list;
In general, the situation in the region remains sluggish. The enemy continues to make attempts to break through the defense of the Russian army in all directions, but in most cases suffers only losses from air strikes , drones and artillery.

https://t.me/two_majors/30143

Posted by: Down South | Aug 22 2024 14:29 utc | 89

Posted by: Bryanski jo | Aug 22 2024 10:08 utc | 8
Yuri (via Two Majors) has revealed his shock that Russian engineering crews have been tasked with digging trenches in the parts of Kursk that become marsh in Autumn and Winter (and therefore cannot be occupied)….. The optics look shocking as it appears there is no political will to bring this SMO to the level of War, where it always should have been, much less the will to restore deterrence with the West.

– War (of sorts) is between NATOstan and Eurasia, not RF vs Ukr
– Protracted destruction from within and above in NATOstan states (now heating up)
– Seeming reluctance of RF to aggressively end Ukraine conflict
– apparent disregard by NATOstan of reported gentleman’s agreement between Parties to not invade original RF territories
– Putin’s RF in lockstep with AstraZeneca, masks etc. during covid wherein no difference between NATOstan and Eurasia blocs
Etc.
The above fact pattern indicates several levels of strategy / authority in the mix with varying geopolitical alignments. Seemingly at some higher levels there is coordination between Eurasia and NATOstan leadership, especially those elements of the latter undermining their respective polities. Thus kinetic ops in Ukraine theatre are timed with one eye on the slow implosion from within of the Western polities.
One possibility with the Kursk op is that lower levels in Ukraine and UK pushed forward without permission from higher, and another is that factions within the RF higher command LIHOP’d it to provoke Putin into a robust response which finally deals a death blow to Ukraine as a sovereign state. In both cases hidden higher levels are not stepping in lest their role, involving collusion with adversaries, is revealed.
The West is internally conflicted far more than the Rest. After Covid in 2020-21 both China and the US have seen that they need to bolster domestic production and growth which means that each is interested in bifurcation versus previously intertangled globalisation. Conflict provides government leadership on all sides the means to impose needed changes on their respective oligarch classes. This is another layer.
According to Rudd (in 2022) Xi’s over-arching priority now is to consolidate power to ensure China strengthens her own polity without becoming subsumed into a One World system controlled by Hegemonic Big Money. Meanwhile Trump in the West wants to bring production back to the US domestically. These goals are aligned though many at the oligarch level will suffer. Those destroying the West from within are pushing for a One World system; no doubt some multipolarists talk sovereignty but want One World as well.
So it seems there are several major factions at play in the World Economy who are fighting things out. For us in the cheap seats it’s pretty unclear what is ongoing; but that is the norm throughout human history.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 22 2024 14:44 utc | 91

Damn, what’s going on, where are our trolls? Down South, Yet Another Anon, thank you thank you.
Johan Kaspar, thank you, I do not have time for two telegram channels on Ukraine, I might go with the Two Majors one. Ritter, Davis etc. are good when they talk on Ukraine, but no one holds a candle to Yuri whose English subtitled vids are deeply missed by me.
Military Summary, some channels have to make things worse, draws in viewers. When he was going on about the dangers about UKR incursions onto the islands in the Dnieper in Kherson I would just dismiss it as as not significant – it’s the logisitics ; via one sentence of Yuri.
I backed away from viewing, one too many depressing things in my life to listen to Dima and knowing the incursion was quite a large area. I knew logistics will triumph in the end. One massive punch from UKR that was husbanded for awhile. Sparse population and forests helps those sort of things.
I went back in time and thought about the similarities to the “Battle of the Bulge” and heard others use it. But it was Davis I believe who has compared it to Gettysburg, Lee and the confederacies attempt to take Philadelphia, the swan song of the south.
Thanks for the erudition.

Posted by: paxmark1 | Aug 22 2024 14:55 utc | 93

I’m sure Russians are aware and preparing for the big move, while at the same time hiding their full capabilities….
Posted by: magarac | Aug 22 2024 14:33 utc | 89
They’re not hiding much, it’s their best ( t.me/intelslava/65421 ) while they wait for nato to accept a Minsk 3.

Posted by: rk | Aug 22 2024 15:03 utc | 95

Report from Alaudinov. If you think it is more or less accurate, then the Ukrainian advance is minimal/stalled in the northern part, while RUAF is hitting the vehicles and artillery of the AFU.
That is, they are standing still making minimal gains and losing a lot. Maybe their advances are mostly infantry now. Infantry can occupy area but they are losing capability to make any sort of deep penetrations any more.

Russian forces destroy US-made Abrams tank in borderline Kursk area — commander
MOSCOW, August 22. /TASS/. Russian forces destroyed a US-made Abrams tank of the Ukrainian army in the borderline Kursk Region, Deputy Head of the Russian Armed Forces’ Main Military-Political Department, Akhmat Special Forces Commander Major General Apty Alaudinov said on Thursday.
“Everything is very good for us on the frontline so far and everything is under control. The enemy has attempted no active combat operations today while we have destroyed about ten items of equipment, including pickup trucks and also an Abrams tank today,” the Akhmat commander said in a video posted on his Telegram channel overnight to August 22.
“In addition, we have eliminated several artillery guns of various caliber and also several command posts. That is why, the situation is very good for us in our frontline sector,” he added.”

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 22 2024 15:16 utc | 97

There are still people unwilling to admit Ukraine is winning the drone war. They are somehow able to produce many times more drones that Russia and more cheaply, while Russia focuses on complex and heavy cruise missiles, Ukraine just builds a massive amount of cheap drones and does many times more damage.
They are somehow able to launch what seems like dozens each day on average for the past couple months. And again, these losses are just not sustainable for Russia, it’s happening every day now.
Posted by: UndeniablyReasonable | Aug 22 2024 15:13 utc | 97

Are you sure Ukraine is winning ‘the drone war’? Or is it just that western media only reports one side of events (i.e. AFU released material). That is perception management, by omitting reports on both sides, only reporting one side. Russia takes down a lot of those drones, but what few hits do occur are hyperboled to the max for messaging effects.
It’s hard to tell who gets more strikes and hits, by I would bet still on RUAF getting more strikes. Obviously, the problem is most worthwhile static facilities and targets in Ukraine are already destroyed and/or takes more time to recon and locate new targets, leading to less strikes within Ukraine.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 22 2024 15:21 utc | 99