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August 18, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-197
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: boneless | Aug 18 2024 23:24 utc | 207 Posted by: Naive | Aug 18 2024 23:37 utc | 201 Just to add to that, the US are desperate to avoid a collapse, as far as they can, before the “election”. Images of helicopter evacuations from embassy rooftops will be difficult for the Mighty Wurlitzer to spin in a positive light… Posted by: kupkee | Aug 18 2024 23:45 utc | 202 Russian Armed Forces completed the liberation of New York – Town to be Renamed Novgorod Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Aug 18 2024 23:46 utc | 203 If the Ukrainians are digging in, how will Russia take back the territory the Ukrainins are occupying? Posted by: Jim Smith | Aug 18 2024 23:47 utc | 204 @Jim Smith ‘213 Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 18 2024 23:55 utc | 205 Lang 3 – This current situation and the use of Ukrainian National Police units as assault troops has to remind any WWII historian of infamous SS Police Division, notorious for its brutal treatment of Russian and Polish civilians, the unit was labeled by some historians as the worst SS unit of all time………. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 19 2024 0:02 utc | 206 @hh #201 Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 19 2024 0:04 utc | 207 Posted by: burak | Aug 18 2024 23:35 utc | 208 Posted by: Naive | Aug 19 2024 0:09 utc | 208 If the Ukrainians are digging in, how will Russia take back the territory the Ukrainins are occupying? Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 0:19 utc | 209 Posted by: Naive | Aug 19 2024 0:09 utc | 218 Posted by: burak | Aug 19 2024 0:34 utc | 210 ‘No food or water for days:’ Ukrainian soldier explains why he surrendered to Russia Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 0:36 utc | 211 @213 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 19 2024 0:37 utc | 212
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 19 2024 0:43 utc | 213 Ukraine Soldier caught looting in Sudzhi’s store by “Akhmat” Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 0:51 utc | 214 LightYearsFromHome | Aug 18 2024 19:50 utc | 148 Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2024 0:57 utc | 215 Posted by: Desiderata | Aug 19 2024 0:56 utc | 227 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 1:00 utc | 216 HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 0:51 utc | 226 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 1:14 utc | 217 Posted by: Jerr | Aug 18 2024 22:50 utc | 202 Posted by: Archetypex | Aug 19 2024 1:30 utc | 218 boneless | Aug 18 2024 23:24 utc | 207 Posted by: Cynic | Aug 19 2024 1:32 utc | 219 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2024 1:35 utc | 220 …there are dozens here totally out of control and carrying on like two years olds in a fight at kindergarten – all those complaining about Trolls are also TROLLS and even worse than those they cannot stand. Posted by: Crater | Aug 19 2024 1:37 utc | 221
Only a Fed would still push this agitprop by now – not because it still believes in it but because of the All-Bureau Memoranda. Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 19 2024 1:41 utc | 222 Which working class? There is no working class in western countries, because there is no class consciousness. The wsw is a parasite unable to change anything in their own countries. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 19 2024 1:41 utc | 223 The next “red line” that NATO will cross could be the deployment of its own troops, including for a military offensive against Crimea. Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 19 2024 1:43 utc | 224 Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 19 2024 1:43 utc | 240 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 19 2024 1:50 utc | 225 @240 urban fox Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 19 2024 1:53 utc | 226 . George Floyd with an overwhelming force kneeing on it’s neck. It can’t move. Can’t get away. Has no where to go for safety. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 19 2024 1:55 utc | 227 I’m so sick of this shit. Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 1:56 utc | 228 WSWS had some fine articles about Ukraine, but yes, it was, like C. Hedges and Chomsky, against Russia’s military operation, while I was (silently) criticising Russia for the delay. Posted by: burak | Aug 19 2024 1:57 utc | 229 In response to Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 19 2024 1:58 utc | 230 ‘No food or water for days:’ Ukrainian soldier explains why he surrendered to Russia Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 2:02 utc | 231 Russia might even militarily defeat the Ukrainians, and take the whole country and either occupy it or annex the whole thing, and still it will change nothing. Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 2:07 utc | 232 Russia has no interest in crossing the Dnieper. Posted by: malenkov | Aug 19 2024 2:27 utc | 233 WSWS had some fine articles about Ukraine, but yes, it was, like C. Hedges and Chomsky, against Russia’s military operation, while I was (silently) criticising Russia for the delay. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 19 2024 2:29 utc | 234 Desiderata @ @ @ Posted by: Jerr | Aug 19 2024 2:31 utc | 235 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 19 2024 2:29 utc | 251 Posted by: burak | Aug 19 2024 2:42 utc | 236 Light YFH@1826 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 19 2024 2:51 utc | 237 Posted by: Desiderata | Aug 19 2024 2:45 utc | 254 Posted by: nate | Aug 19 2024 2:54 utc | 238 Today, Zelensky “reveals the purpose of the Kursk incursion/invasion”. Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 19 2024 2:56 utc | 239 I wish a moderater would remove all the non-Ukraine posts. Too many people posting off topic. Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 19 2024 3:07 utc | 240 If Putin and all of Russia is not preparing right now for an all out war with the US and Europe in the very near future then they are being ruled by idiots. Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 19 2024 3:11 utc | 241 re: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 18 2024 21:39 utc | 185 Posted by: Ново З | Aug 19 2024 3:13 utc | 242 ref. trolls: Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Aug 19 2024 3:18 utc | 243 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 19 2024 2:51 utc | 256 Posted by: Ново З | Aug 19 2024 3:21 utc | 244 Desiderata @ 254 Posted by: Jerr | Aug 19 2024 3:21 utc | 245 NemesisCalling@2053 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 19 2024 3:36 utc | 246 Eighthman@2124 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 19 2024 3:48 utc | 247 Posted by: Desiderata | Aug 19 2024 0:45 utc | 225 Posted by: drsmith | Aug 19 2024 3:52 utc | 248 neofeudalist@2158 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 19 2024 3:52 utc | 249 Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible, without surrender, be on good terms with all persons. Posted by: james | Aug 19 2024 4:03 utc | 250 HERMIUS | Aug 19 2024 1:56 utc | 244 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 4:03 utc | 251 Posted by: Jerr | Aug 19 2024 3:21 utc | 266 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 4:10 utc | 252 Posted by: Ново З | Aug 19 2024 3:13 utc | 263 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 4:15 utc | 253 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 4:03 utc | 277 Posted by: nate | Aug 19 2024 4:17 utc | 254 Calling free folk cultures “Pagan” evidences retrogressive attitudes swallowed whole and regurgitated in this public forum. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 4:23 utc | 255 Posted by: Desiderata | Aug 19 2024 4:20 utc | 281 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 4:26 utc | 256 Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 4:10 utc | 278 Posted by: Jerr | Aug 19 2024 4:30 utc | 257 Posted by: Jerr | Aug 19 2024 4:30 utc | 284 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 4:31 utc | 258 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2024 4:36 utc | 259 The Bloodiest Battle of the Chosen Company | Pt.1
Don’t know if this link has been posted in the sewer that has been these [recent] threads. Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 19 2024 4:40 utc | 260 Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 4:10 utc | 278 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 19 2024 4:49 utc | 261 Posted by: circumspect | Aug 19 2024 4:49 utc | 292 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 4:55 utc | 262
As a fellow lurker, I hear you. That’s the entire purpose of these trolls though. Sparetruth nailed it when he called it the thread equivalent of a DoS attack, although DDoS would be more accurate. They want MoA readers to get frustrated and move on. Don’t give them the satisfaction by giving up. Identify them and just scroll past. Don’t engage and they’ll fade away like the many, many, many others before. Posted by: Dystopian | Aug 19 2024 4:58 utc | 263
It’s like with the qweer reading hour – do not ask why kids should listen to pedos, ask why pedos want kids to listen to them. Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 19 2024 5:02 utc | 264 why they so desperately need us to read it. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 5:06 utc | 265 In response to Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 19 2024 5:07 utc | 266 Posted by: Desiderata | Aug 19 2024 5:06 utc | 299 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 5:18 utc | 267 spare_truth_01 | Aug 19 2024 4:47 utc | 291 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 5:26 utc | 268 why is this place allowed to exist in the first place? big bro is fine with everyone exposing everything in this forum for everyone to read? why is it allowed to exist? Posted by: fart | Aug 19 2024 5:30 utc | 269 HERMIUS 203 Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 19 2024 5:40 utc | 270 I doubt it. Plenty of different opinions by genuine people are very much part and parcel of what b set up. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 19 2024 5:59 utc | 271
A data-driven surveillance-state requires input to feed the analysis. Posted by: retroflecks | Aug 19 2024 6:02 utc | 272 “I believe the existing God Of Mammon cult of private finance is Flintstones-like, and we of the West are living the barbarian life” [very lightly edited for punctuation and spelling] Posted by: Wisco | Aug 19 2024 6:15 utc | 273 For the regulars or any genuine newcomers, I ran onto a youtube channel that looks to do quite good big picture analysis of the 404 conflict. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 6:17 utc | 274 “They (we) cant’ even stop their govt’s support of Israel carrying out an inhuman genocide, so they sure won’t get them to stop attacking Russia unjustly and starting endless proxy wars, or an all out war against Russia. The ‘people’ in the west and others will back their govts for all out war on Russia.” [very lightly edited for grammar and punctuation to improve clarity]. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 19 2024 6:33 utc | 275 @Jake Blanchard | Aug 19 2024 2:56 utc | 258
It is reverse projection. The Russians have repeatedly stated they need to establish a buffer zone against NATO. Zelensky in desperation just reverses the idea, which he took from the Russians. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 19 2024 6:34 utc | 276 Zelensky in desperation just reverses the idea, which he took from the Russians. Posted by: Jake Blanchard | Aug 19 2024 7:01 utc | 277 No. Urban Fox have completely missed the point the author was making there and in the article overall. You’re way too narrow minded (myopic) and only thinking in the past and weeks ahead …. NATO has many options including a mobilization and conscription …. no one can stop if they go that way. Russia cannot stop NATO or the USA continuing to breech red-lines and escalate the War anytime they want too. One press conference and a week of Media Propaganda (like 2003 Iraq) and it’s a done deal. Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 19 2024 7:09 utc | 278
https://x.com/Zlatti_71/status/1825423022800408951 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 19 2024 7:14 utc | 279 Wisco | Aug 19 2024 7:07 utc | 339 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 7:16 utc | 280
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1825276182826238228 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 7:24 utc | 281 ZelenskogoNato continues throwing more reserves of Armed Forces of Ukraine into the Kursk region. The dumb media will praise it as a decisive offensive, but fail to mention it’s all bogged down and they are reserves that were sent to replace the first ones that were already destroyed. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 19 2024 7:25 utc | 282 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 19 2024 6:51 utc | 335
Quite likely, considering they put so much effort into this disruption. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 19 2024 7:37 utc | 283
https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/1825429355809701975 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 7:38 utc | 284 I now understand why Larry Johnson over at SONAR21.COM decided to introduce user registration. Posted by: Martina | Aug 19 2024 7:40 utc | 285
https://x.com/SMO_VZ/status/1824906338670891266 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 7:46 utc | 286
Posted by: Down South | Aug 19 2024 7:52 utc | 287
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Posted by: Down South | Aug 19 2024 7:56 utc | 289 Troll reserves have been rushed in, good guess is Kursk and the Donbas front are about to collapse. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 19 2024 7:57 utc | 290
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Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 8:03 utc | 293 “…though did say to email him if there were sockpuppet, username hijackers ect. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 19 2024 8:09 utc | 294 Posted by: Down South | Aug 19 2024 7:56 utc | 361 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 19 2024 8:11 utc | 295 Wisco | Aug 19 2024 8:09 utc | 369 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 8:16 utc | 296 https://t.me/s/rezid | Aug 19 2024 8:08 utc | 368 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 8:17 utc | 297 As our host is recovering from serious health issues and therefore not able to hold up his monitoring standards, may i ask you all to stop personal insults. Posted by: HEL | Aug 19 2024 8:24 utc | 298 Wisco Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 19 2024 8:28 utc | 299 I am not sure if down south has already posted this, but if he has I will post it again anyway. I think the offensive to the south with the F16s will be the main Nato offensive – possibly strikes on ZNPP in conjunction with dirty bombs will be part of it.
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