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August 18, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-197
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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The comments section has deteriorated some! It is like sitting in a sandbox with two year olds. Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 18 2024 14:05 utc | 2 Today’s report from the Russian Defence Ministry covering the SMO: https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12525841@egNews
The grim meat-grinder grinds onward. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:06 utc | 3 Latest post at Marat Khairullin Substack: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/about-prisoners-or-why-has-ukraine
which highlights something I hadn’t considered for some time and that is defections from Ukraine to Russia by senior military ranks and civilian officials. I had thought that anyone wanting to go would have long gone, so it was interesting to read that it’s still an ongoing factor. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:14 utc | 4 @ frkorz | Aug 18 2024 14:09 utc | 4 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:31 utc | 5
It has had a number of name calling old men since I first found it a few years ago. Seems the same to me. Comments section needs a mute capability. Posted by: Cheney | Aug 18 2024 14:35 utc | 6 How stupid could they be to attack into Kursk all wearing their best nazi paraphernalia? Its easy to see why Russia just settled down to the job of exterminating them after Bojo’s visit to Keiv.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 14:44 utc | 7 Hmmm, it seems the ratio of topic to non-topic has not got off to a promising start… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:48 utc | 8
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17074 Posted by: Down South | Aug 18 2024 14:50 utc | 9 @ frkorz | Aug 18 2024 14:40 utc | 8 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:52 utc | 10
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17070 Posted by: Down South | Aug 18 2024 14:52 utc | 11
https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17069 Posted by: Down South | Aug 18 2024 14:53 utc | 12
https://x.com/KyivPost/status/1824758025996886064 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 14:57 utc | 13 The Kursk offensive seems to be sliding along the border where Russia is prepared to use defense in depth on its own territory. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 14:57 utc | 14 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:48 utc | 10 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 18 2024 14:58 utc | 15 @ malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:31 utc | 6 18 07:31 AM Posted by: despondent | Aug 18 2024 15:00 utc | 16 Ut is clear that Ukraine wont negotiate. Any negotiation would ruin their sence of superiority over Russia. And that is the most important to them. Posted by: vargas | Aug 18 2024 15:01 utc | 17 I don’t recall asking you to read my post and I also did not ask you to reply. Posted by: Ed | Aug 18 2024 15:01 utc | 18 Ukraine Weekly Update, 16th August 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-e15 Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 19 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 18 2024 14:58 utc | 17 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 15:06 utc | 20
https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1825142292161638650 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:08 utc | 21 Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 18 2024 14:05 utc | 2 Posted by: Zargo | Aug 18 2024 15:10 utc | 22 Also regarding thread pollution.. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 15:14 utc | 23
Posted by: Down South | Aug 18 2024 15:21 utc | 24 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 18 2024 14:58 utc | 17 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 15:23 utc | 25 “Two counter-attacks launched by units of the Lyut Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian National Police were repelled.” Posted by: marcjf | Aug 18 2024 15:23 utc | 26 Looks like the WaPo story on Qatar and negotiations was purely to throw the comedian of Kiev under the bus
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:29 utc | 27 Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 21 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 15:32 utc | 28 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 18 2024 14:58 utc | 17 Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 15:41 utc | 29 Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 21 Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:42 utc | 30 Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 21 Posted by: Ed | Aug 18 2024 15:43 utc | 31 Demilitarizion of 404 has been proceeding steadily since the start of the SMO, but the photo op into Kursk appears to be greatly speeding up the identification process. It appears to have been a magnet for the dedicated Nazi’s. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:43 utc | 32 ******* My cell phone doesn’t have a mouse. malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:31 utc | 6 Posted by: Jerr | Aug 18 2024 15:46 utc | 33 In reponse to: Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:29 utc | 29 Posted by: Stierlitz | Aug 18 2024 15:46 utc | 34 Posted by: marcjf | Aug 18 2024 15:23 utc | 28 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 15:52 utc | 35 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 14:44 utc | 9 Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 15:55 utc | 36 Why are grown (old?) people members of cult of copium/hopium? Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 15:55 utc | 37 Regarding unit names and locations Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 15:56 utc | 38 Weeb Union 16 mins Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 18 2024 15:56 utc | 39 Stierlitz | Aug 18 2024 15:46 utc | 36 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:56 utc | 40 Jerr | Aug 18 2024 15:46 utc | 35 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:57 utc | 41 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/putin-has-broken-one-of-the-most-sacred-rules-of-warfare/ Posted by: marcjf | Aug 18 2024 15:57 utc | 42 Victor | Aug 18 2024 15:55 utc | 39 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:59 utc | 43 Who will replace Lukashenko after 30 long years At The Helm? He’s been a good friend of the Russian President. Posted by: AI | Aug 18 2024 16:00 utc | 44 @ marcjf | Aug 18 2024 15:57 utc | 44 Posted by: boneless | Aug 18 2024 16:02 utc | 45 Milites | Aug 18 2024 15:55 utc | 38 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:05 utc | 46 ” Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 21 Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:08 utc | 47 Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:08 utc | 49 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:12 utc | 48
Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:15 utc | 49 Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:08 utc | 49 Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 16:18 utc | 50 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:59 utc | 45 Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:18 utc | 51 Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:18 utc | 53 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:19 utc | 52 Don’t feed the trolls. Posted by: james | Aug 18 2024 16:20 utc | 53 Victor@1608 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:26 utc | 54 marcjf@1557 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:30 utc | 55 Not feeding here, genuine question – @Victor, in your view, how high does the current Ukrainian mess in Kursk feature on the the list of “Great Military Balls-Ups”? Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 16:33 utc | 56 In total, 639 airplanes and 282 helicopters, 30,112 unmanned aerial vehicles, 575 air defence missile systems, 17,320 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,411 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 13,392 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 24,894 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation. Posted by: jpc | Aug 18 2024 16:33 utc | 57 Just to pick one weapons system. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:37 utc | 58 Posted by: boneless | Aug 18 2024 16:02 utc | 47 Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 16:37 utc | 59 https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4831653-ukraines-kursk-offensive-is-a-huge-strategic-error/ Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 18 2024 16:42 utc | 60 Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 18 2024 16:42 utc | 62 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 18 2024 16:47 utc | 61 victor@1555 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:47 utc | 62 Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 18 2024 16:42 utc | 62 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 16:49 utc | 63 It seems to me ukrops are now the lowest form of humanity, much worse than the Israelis. The latter are sponges of America but they try to look strong and cruel, not passive-agressive beggars as ukrops do. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 16:51 utc | 64
The only way left to us. I cherish my printed encyclopedias. Posted by: Catilina | Aug 18 2024 16:56 utc | 65 neofeudalfuture@1457 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:57 utc | 66 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:29 utc | 29 Posted by: Nothingburgers | Aug 18 2024 16:57 utc | 67 ” In terms of human evolution, bisexuality is most probably the evolutionary norm. Posted by: Moonie | Aug 18 2024 17:01 utc | 68 Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 16:51 utc | 66 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:02 utc | 69 Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 18 2024 16:42 utc | 62 Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 17:03 utc | 70 @68 aristdemos Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 17:08 utc | 71 Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 17:08 utc | 73 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:10 utc | 72 Whenever you see the western msm criticize Zelensky, remember this…. Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 18 2024 17:11 utc | 73 Zelensky is going to get “regime-changed”, the keyboard lid is going to slam shut. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:16 utc | 74 Demilitarizion of 404 has been proceeding steadily since the start of the SMO, Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:25 utc | 75 Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:25 utc | 77 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:26 utc | 76 The Holy Roman Empire of Westphalia vs Constantinople
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:30 utc | 77 Here’s the full report that was first noted by Jeremy Rhymings-Lang @5 above:
I’d expect the flow of defectors to continue to increase as the end point nears. Of course, defections aren’t noted publicly by Russia’s military, so to get any sort of word about their nature is rather rare. I wonder if Marat was given the info and told to disseminate it. Posted by: Nazipoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:25 utc | 77 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:33 utc | 79 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:02 utc | 71
Yup. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 17:36 utc | 80 karlof1 | Aug 18 2024 17:31 utc | 80 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:40 utc | 81
Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 18 2024 17:31 utc | 80 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:41 utc | 82 @Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:33 utc | 81 Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 83 Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 85 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:43 utc | 84 Posted by: Nazipoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 85 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:51 utc | 85 Posted by: Nazipoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 85 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:57 utc | 86 @74 Peter Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 18:00 utc | 87 Zelensky is not smart enough to have a dead man’s switch. He was drawn in by money and he trusted the people that gave him the money. Then, he got more money, and more again. And he trusted the bagmen and the higher ups. And he trusted Bono. Big mistake. Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Aug 18 2024 18:01 utc | 88 Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:40 utc | 83– Dafuq with the HTML quote attribution stuff? Neither my new phone nor any PC browser has that alleged functionality. Is it a honeypot trick or something? We already have had italics or blockquotes forever. I’ve rarely if ever had any issues with figuring out what text is quoted vs. a poster’s own words. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 18 2024 18:04 utc | 90 Did a search on MSM Ukraine news for Australia in the last 24 hours. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 18:05 utc | 91 Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 18:00 utc | 89 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 18:12 utc | 92 the reality is ukraine has a vast theritory obtained at ww2 on behalf of soviet union from the surrounding countries like Poland, Hungary, Romania… its pretty incredible the silence of the eu members, in regards to this. Posted by: innuendo | Aug 18 2024 18:13 utc | 93 Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 85 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 18 2024 18:14 utc | 94 Johan #66 Posted by: thebeek | Aug 18 2024 18:15 utc | 95 Nonsense.
Link to Wikileaks → Link to Wikileaks Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 18 2024 18:15 utc | 96 Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Aug 18 2024 18:01 utc | 90 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 18 2024 18:22 utc | 97 aristodemos @ 64 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 18 2024 18:26 utc | 98 “Posters are using a variety of quoting styles to include text from other posts. This requires mental effort to figure out the quoting style and identify what actually belongs to the poster. There is an easier way that readers can easily identify what is the posters and what is being quoted. When you are at the reply box, move the mouse to the middle of the right half. Slowly slide upwards until you reach the word QUOTE. Triple-click on it. This selects the HTML for quoting. Right click and from the menu select copy. Now move to the reply box. Right click and select paste. Of course you can use control-c for copy and control-v for paste. One last thing. Double click on the word Text and press Enter twice. This gives you a big fat target between the HTML tags where you can paste in the text you are quoting. Go to the end of the text in the reply box and type your response. Repeat as necessary. Thank you for being a professional internet user and not an annoying childish twerp.
Link to Wikileaks → Link to Wikileaks
Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 18 2024 18:27 utc | 99 Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 18 2024 18:15 utc | 98 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 18 2024 18:27 utc | 100 |
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