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August 18, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-197

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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Don’t feed the trolls.
Ta. D.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 18 2024 14:05 utc | 1

The comments section has deteriorated some! It is like sitting in a sandbox with two year olds.
Is this really the best we can do?

Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 18 2024 14:05 utc | 2

Today’s report from the Russian Defence Ministry covering the SMO: https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_operation/news/more.htm?id=12525841@egNews

Russian Defence Ministry report on the progress of the special military operation (18 August 2024)
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
In Volchansk and Liptsy directions, units of the Sever Group of Forces inflicted losses on manpower and hardware of the AFU 43rd Mechanised Brigade, 92nd Assault Brigade, 36th Marine Brigade near Liptsy, Beliy Kolodez, and Volchansk (Kharkov region).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 90 Ukrainian troops, three motor vehicles, one U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzer, two 122-mm D-30 howitzers, and one Anklav-N electronic warfare station.
One ammunition depot was destroyed.
Units of the Zapad Group of Forces took more advantageous lines and positions as well as inflicted losses on formations of the AFU 14th, 30th, 67th, 440th mechanised brigades, and 117th Territorial Defence Brigade near Petropavlovka, Tabayevka, Novoplatonovka (Kharkov region), Stelmakhovka (Lugansk People’s Republic), and Torskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic). One counter-attack launched by an assault detachment of the AFU 241st Territorial Defence Brigade was repelled.
The AFU losses amounted to up to 440 Ukrainian troops, one infantry fighting vehicle, and six motor vehicles.
In the course of counter-battery warfare, one Polish-made 155-mm Krab self-propelled artillery system, one UK-made 155-mm FH-70 howitzer, one U.S.-made 155-mm M198 howitzer, one 122-mm Gvozdika self-propelled artillery system, one U.S.-made 105-mm M119 howitzer, and one Anklav-N electronic warfare station were destroyed.
Two AFU ammunition depots were destroyed.
Units of the Yug Group of Forces improved the tactical situation and inflicted losses on manpower and hardware of the AFU 24th Mechanised Brigade, 5th Assault Brigade, and 24th Assault Battalion near Chasov Yar, Stupochki, and Predtechino (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 420 Ukrainian troops and two motor vehicles.
In the course of counter-battery warfare, one 122-mm Grad MLRS launcher, one Polish-made 155-mm Krab self-propelled artillery system, three U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzers, one U.S.-made 155-mm M198 howitzer, two UK-made 155-mm FH-70 howitzers, two 152-mm Msta-B howitzers, two 122-mm Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems, two 122-mm D-30 howitzers, two UK-made 105-mm L-119 howitzers, one U.S.-made 105-mm M119 howitzer, and one Anklav-N electronic warfare station were destroyed.
Two field ammunition depots and one POL depot were destroyed.
As a result of active actions, units of the Tsentr Group of Forces liberated Sviridonovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Losses were inflicted on formations of the AFU 47th, 151st mechanised brigades, 68th Jaeger Brigade, 111th Territorial Defence Brigade, and 15th National Guard Brigade near Vozdvizhenka, Kalinovo, Ptichiye, Novoekonomicheskoye, and Dolinovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Two counter-attacks launched by units of the Lyut Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian National Police were repelled.
The AFU losses amounted to more than 500 Ukrainian troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, five motor vehicles, one U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzer, one 152-mm Msta-B howitzer, three 122-mm Gvozdika self-propelled artillery systems, three 122-mm D-30 howitzers, two 100-mm Rapira anti-tank guns, and one U.S.-made AN/TPQ-37 counter-battery warfare station.
Units of the Vostok Group of Forces improved the tactical situation along the front lines and inflicted losses on manpower and hardware of the AFU 33rd and 72nd mechanised brigades near Zelenoye Pole and Vodyanoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 100 Ukrainian troops, one tank, two motor vehicles, one Polish-made 155-mm Krab self-propelled artillery system, one 155-mm Bogdana self-propelled artillery system, one 122-mm D-30 howitzer, and one Bukovel-AD electronic warfare station. Three AFU field ammunition depots were destroyed.
Units of the Dnepr Group of Forces inflicted losses on formations of the AFU 65th Mechanised Brigade and 128th Mountain Assault Brigade near Malaya Tokmachka and Pyatikhatki (Zaporozhye region).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 80 Ukrainian troops, six motor vehicles, two U.S.-made 155-mm M777 howitzers, one 152-mm D-20 howitzer, one 122-mm D-30 howitzer, and two Anklav-N electronic warfare station.
Two AFU ammunition depots was destroyed.
Operational-Tactical Aviation, unmanned aerial vehicles, and Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces wiped out one tank gun workshop, one U.S.-made M270 MLRS launcher, and one U.S.-made HIMARS MLRS launcher.
In addition, clusters of AFU manpower and hardware have been engaged in 163 areas.
Air defence units shot down one French-made Hammer guided aerial bomb, seven U.S.-made HIMARS MLRS projectiles, 27 unmanned aerial vehicles, 11 of which outside the special military operation zone.
In total, 639 airplanes and 282 helicopters, 30,112 unmanned aerial vehicles, 575 air defence missile systems, 17,320 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,411 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 13,392 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 24,894 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.

The grim meat-grinder grinds onward.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:06 utc | 3

Latest post at Marat Khairullin Substack: https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/about-prisoners-or-why-has-ukraine
has this final paragraph:

Speaking in general, the process of desertion of high-ranking officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2024 has taken on the character of an epidemic. It is known that in July alone, five officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, special services, and various departments defected to the Russian Federation, and in most cases, together with their families, and this is not counting the escape of a number of officials of civilian departments.

which highlights something I hadn’t considered for some time and that is defections from Ukraine to Russia by senior military ranks and civilian officials. I had thought that anyone wanting to go would have long gone, so it was interesting to read that it’s still an ongoing factor.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:14 utc | 4

@ frkorz | Aug 18 2024 14:09 utc | 4
1) You’re off topic.
2) My cell phone doesn’t have a mouse.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:31 utc | 5

The comments section has deteriorated some! It is like sitting in a sandbox with two year olds.
Is this really the best we can do?
Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 18 2024 14:05 utc | 2

It has had a number of name calling old men since I first found it a few years ago. Seems the same to me. Comments section needs a mute capability.

Posted by: Cheney | Aug 18 2024 14:35 utc | 6

How stupid could they be to attack into Kursk all wearing their best nazi paraphernalia? Its easy to see why Russia just settled down to the job of exterminating them after Bojo’s visit to Keiv.

Lord Bebo
@MyLordBebo
🇺🇦🇷🇺 Ukrainian special forces: Chest patch of the man on the left side is a 14th Waffen SS Division patch.
WOW, haven’t seen so many WW2 patches since a long time. Kursk is where they all went.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1825147220871491825
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Lord Bebo
@MyLordBebo
Ukranian nationalists got overly excited recently and are showing off.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1825050792753029412
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Chay Bowes
@BowesChay
More evidence that there are “No Nazis in Ukraine”
An Italian tv channel platforms a Ukrainian Nazi from the Armed Forces of Ukraine wearing a cap from Hitlers bodyguard unit.
Remarkable
https://x.com/BowesChay/status/1825073141422358620

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 14:44 utc | 7

Hmmm, it seems the ratio of topic to non-topic has not got off to a promising start…
For the military historians, where would you rank Ukraine’s Kursk fiasco on the list of “Great Military Balls-Ups”? Above the Charge Of The Light Brigade but below Operation Market Garden, as examples?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:48 utc | 8

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Pokrovske Direction: Advances by the Russian Armed Forces in Several Sectors
Situation as of 5:00 PM on August 18, 2024
While Ukrainian formations continue to attack in the Kursk Region, the operational crisis of the AFU in the Pokrovske Direction has been steadily worsening over the past few weeks. Over the past few days, Russian Armed Forces units have been able to expand the zone of control towards both Novohrodivka and the Karlovo Reservoir.
▪️Northwest of Zhelanne, Russian troops have occupied Zhuravka and have begun fighting in Kruti Yar. Apparently, the main objective of the Russian Armed Forces in this sector is the Novohrodivka Mine No. 3, located to the west, which is situated on high ground.
To the south, assault groups of the Russian Armed Forces have also expanded the zone of control, but due to the lack of objective control footage online, it is difficult to establish the front line. Here too, Russian servicemen are trying to break through to the Kotliarevska Mine (formerly “Rossia”), which was previously used by the AFU as a deployment point for equipment and communication systems.
❗️There are also reports of the Russian assault troops reaching the outskirts of Selidovo, but it is not yet possible to confirm this information. The city has been hit by several artillery strikes, and FPV drones are now targeting targets within the city limits.
▪️The Russian troops have achieved significant successes on the southern flank, where at least five settlements have come under the control of the Russian Armed Forces. Among them is Zavetne, from the center of which videos have appeared of the Russian flag being raised.
From the line of Novosilka First – Yasnobrodivka, Russian units have straightened out the zone of control along the shore of the Karlovo Reservoir. On the opposite side, Ukrainian formations still maintain control over Ptychye.
▪️The Russian Ministry of Defense also reported the liberation of the settlement of Svyrydonivka, located on the northern flank. However, according to our information, the village was occupied by units several days earlier.
🔻Over the past few weeks, the situation for Ukrainian formations in the Pokrovske Direction has significantly deteriorated, and the overall description of the situation for the adversary is often reduced to interjections. The scale of the advance of Russian troops also demonstrates the cost of the AFU offensive in the Kursk Region.
At the same time, the Ukrainian command is already actively preparing Selidovo and Myrnohrad for defense in case of further advancement of the Russian Armed Forces – from August 19, a virtually round-the-clock curfew has been introduced in the cities, and reserves are being redeployed there.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17074

Posted by: Down South | Aug 18 2024 14:50 utc | 9

@ frkorz | Aug 18 2024 14:40 utc | 8
There’s no “HTML” for me to long press on (only Copy, Look up, Translate, Speak, Share, and Spell), but there is someone who is a strong contender for Pompous Ass of the Day.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:52 utc | 10

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Lyman Direction: Advances of the Russian Armed Forces in Makiivka
Situation as of 4:00 PM on August 18, 2024
For a long time, positional battles have continued along almost the entire line of contact in the Lyman direction. One of the most active sectors remains Makiivka, where Russian troops have been storming the enemy’s defenses for two months.
Nevertheless, due to the lack of objective control footage and information from the scene, it was not possible to establish the current configuration of the front in the settlement. However, yesterday the situation was somewhat clarified after the publication of video footage by the opponent.
According to the footage, units of the Russian Armed Forces have occupied most of Makiivka, while the AFU are holding positions on the opposite bank of the Zherebets River – further advance of Russian troops to the remaining part of the village will subsequently create a bridgehead from which to increase pressure on the line of Nevske – Yampolivka.
🔻 In other areas, the situation has not undergone significant changes – in the Serebryansky forest, in the vicinity of Zhuravka Gully, and the salient near Torske, positional battles are ongoing. Russian troops periodically strike both the enemy’s artillery and mobile electronic warfare systems.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17070

Posted by: Down South | Aug 18 2024 14:52 utc | 11

☦️🇷🇺🇺🇦 A New Step Towards Banning the Canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church
The All-Ukrainian Council of Churches and Religious Organizations supported a bill to ban the activities of the UOC – earlier it was proposed to the Verkhovna Rada by the president of the so-called Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy himself. The document passed the first reading last year.
At first glance, the specified council has no legal powers, and such decisions are in fact of a recommendatory nature. In addition, clergy of the UOC itself were not invited to discuss and explain, which also does not add legitimacy to the situation.
However, even a few days before expressing open support, members of this structure discussed the bill with Zelenskyy, who called the decision “strengthening spiritual independence from Russia”. They themselves stated that “no organization, religious or secular, with a center in the ‘aggressor country’ can function in Ukraine”.
❗️In this situation, there is nothing surprising at all. The main role in this “council of churches” is played by sectarians from the OCU, Greek Catholics, Catholics and other Seventh-day Adventists who claim the property of the UOC, so it was simply impossible to hear any other speeches and any other decisions from them.
With a high probability, the official approval of the ban on the canonical UOC will take place in the next few weeks or even days. And it is unlikely that the Ukrainian authorities decided to “speed up” on this issue just like that.
The invasion of the Kursk Region, attempts to completely stop prisoner exchanges, and now the deliberate deterioration of relations in the religious field (in fact, a new “hunting season” for UOC clergy and parishioners is open) again illustrate the complete lack of interest of the Kyiv regime in any negotiations.

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/17069

Posted by: Down South | Aug 18 2024 14:53 utc | 12

KyivPost
@KyivPost
Fears grow that Russia will soon stage a nuclear false flag terror attack to deflect from its catastrophic failures in Kursk.

https://x.com/KyivPost/status/1824758025996886064

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 14:57 utc | 13

The Kursk offensive seems to be sliding along the border where Russia is prepared to use defense in depth on its own territory.
Ukraine sure used a lot of armored vehicles (and civilian cars and trucks) and it looks like that’s been worn down a lot over the past couple weeks and it seems they’re going to dig in. They’ve been hitting bridges with the intent to shelter behind a river line. So we have the Sumy front(or kursk depending) where Russia will now keep daily pressure on it.
The question is when does Zelensky bring those guys back to strike at the flanks of the povrosk sector? It’s screaming for it now. When he does does Russia make a push to Sumy now?
That’s the problem with catching Tigers by the tail. You can’t let go.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 14:57 utc | 14

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:48 utc | 10
I think it was a trial of NATO tactics without NATO actually invading Russia … similar to how the alllies learned a lot about amphibious assaults of the French coast with the Dieppe raid during WW2. It’s the data that’s valuable here which was collected with plausible deniability and no NATO badged casualties.

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 18 2024 14:58 utc | 15

@ malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:31 utc | 6 18 07:31 AM
frkorz‘s comment was appreciated and helpful, even for people using mouseless devices.
Usually, your comments are appreciated and helpful too.

Posted by: despondent | Aug 18 2024 15:00 utc | 16

Ut is clear that Ukraine wont negotiate. Any negotiation would ruin their sence of superiority over Russia. And that is the most important to them.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 18 2024 15:01 utc | 17

I don’t recall asking you to read my post and I also did not ask you to reply.
Posted by: frkorz | Aug 18 2024 14:40 utc | 8
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Permission to read and reply to your comments does not belong to you. No one forced you to comment, but if you choose to do so, everyone has a right to reply.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 18 2024 15:01 utc | 18

Ukraine Weekly Update, 16th August 2024: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-e15

Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 19

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 18 2024 14:58 utc | 17
OK, thanks, good points. The Russians would presumably be aware of this aspect though, and shape their responses accordingly? Not giving everything away?
Previous historical data suggests that trying to invade Russia doesn’t end well for the would-be invader…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 15:06 utc | 20

Akhmat caught one of the Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers who kidnapped Russian civilians and conscripts from the village of Goncharovka
The Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers turned out to be scouts, they caught them with action cameras on their foreheads, where many interesting shots were found. The second one is the same lollipop guy without a bandage.

https://x.com/vicktop55/status/1825142292161638650
Unbelievable how stupid these clowns are.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:08 utc | 21

Posted by: g wiltek | Aug 18 2024 14:05 utc | 2
When you operate a cheerleading discussion forum where everyone who does not cheer, this is what you get

Posted by: Zargo | Aug 18 2024 15:10 utc | 22

Also regarding thread pollution..
Your feelings are ALL off topic. If you feel mad by what you read don’t respond to say how you feel. No one cares most certainly not the person you disagree with.
Respond with rumors or facts you’ve heard, or a value added analysis of said data points.
So, don’t respond to this post either. It’ll be cleaner that way.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 15:14 utc | 23

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Information is spreading through Ukrainian public pages and telegram channels run by the military that the Russian Federation has completely captured the New York of the Donetsk region.
Neither Ukraine nor Russia has officially confirmed this.
On maps published by Ukrainian and Russian military publics, a small part of New York is still under the control of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

https://t.me/intelslava/65197

Posted by: Down South | Aug 18 2024 15:21 utc | 24

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 18 2024 14:58 utc | 17
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 15:06 utc | 22
A supplementary point: they’ve gone on a data-gathering operation, by depleting the forces on the Donbass front.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 15:23 utc | 25

“Two counter-attacks launched by units of the Lyut Assault Brigade of the Ukrainian National Police were repelled.”
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:06 utc | 3
Thank you for the info. Maybe me, but this is the first time I have come across this formation. Very reminiscent of the final days of the Third Reich when everyone had their private armies, loyal to their “boss”. Untrained men were committed en masse to the fire of full scale war. Also named units, not numbered. I have no idea if this is signifigant or not, but for an amateur historian quite interesting to see the parallels.History doesn’t repeat, but it rhymes – forgive me the pun.

Posted by: marcjf | Aug 18 2024 15:23 utc | 26

Looks like the WaPo story on Qatar and negotiations was purely to throw the comedian of Kiev under the bus

of the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry, Maria Zakharova, to a question from the media in connection with the publication of The Washington Post
Question: The Washington Post reported that the Ukrainian Armed Forces ‘ attack on the Kursk region of the Russian Federation disrupted indirect talks between Kiev and Moscow in Qatar on strikes on critical infrastructure. Earlier reports appeared that Qatar and other Arab monarchies participated in negotiations for the exchange of prisoners. Can you comment on the fact that some indirect negotiations were conducted and were interrupted by this attack of the Kiev regime? Were there any chances of preparing for ceasefire negotiations through Arab mediators and/or in any other format before August 6, and how much did they decrease after that?
M. V. Zakharova: No one plucked anything, because there was nothing to pluck. There have been no direct or indirect talks between Russia and the Kiev regime on the security of civilian critical infrastructure facilities.
The only threat to the security of such facilities, including the Zaporizhia and now Kursk nuclear power plants, is caused solely by the actions of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the complicity of the United States and other Western countries. By the way, it is symbolic that the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched their Kursk sortie on August 6, the anniversary of the American nuclear bombing of Hiroshima – the first and only use of atomic weapons against the civilian population and civilian infrastructure in the history of mankind.
As for the Russian Armed Forces, they do not strike at civilian targets. Moreover, they are currently doing everything possible to protect such facilities from attacks by the Ukrainian Armed Forces using Western weapons, and to protect the world from a large-scale man-made disaster.
Those who really want to ensure the security of critical infrastructure and avoid the catastrophic consequences of the neo-Nazi Kiev regime’s barbarism should first encourage this regime to abandon terrorist methods of warfare, and Western countries to discourage such tactics and supply it with lethal weapons.
After April 2022, when Kiev withdrew from negotiations with Russia, and five months later legally banned its own conduct, the only contacts between the Russian side and the Kiev regime were carried out through intermediaries only on humanitarian issues, primarily the exchange of prisoners.
At the same time, Kiev has repeatedly had chances for a negotiated solution to the crisis. The most recent one was presented in June of this year, when Russian President Vladimir Putin put forward a very generous peace initiative for the Ukrainian side, which opened up a real prospect for a cease-fire and reaching a final settlement through political and diplomatic methods. This proposal included recognizing territorial realities, rejecting Ukraine’s membership in NATO, lifting illegal sanctions, and ending discrimination against Russian-speaking citizens.
However, after August 6, the whole world saw the response of Ukrobanderovtsy to this gesture of goodwill – a bandit raid in the Kursk region, their atrocities against civilians, targeted killings of doctors, rescuers and volunteers, attacks on civilian vehicles, rocket attacks on residential buildings, widespread looting and even the creation of threats to nuclear security. https://t.me/s/MariaVladimirovnaZakharova

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:29 utc | 27

Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 21
Thanks Dr. Campbell, informative and succint as usual.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 15:32 utc | 28

Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 18 2024 14:58 utc | 17
Apart from the capabilities of certain platforms, I’d be curious as to what data they’ve collected that they didn’t already know.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 15:41 utc | 29

Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 21
Thanks Dr. Campbell, informative and succint as usual.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 15:32 utc | 30
Much appreciated – thanks.

Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:42 utc | 30

Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 21
Thanks Dr. Campbell, informative and succint as usual.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 15:32 utc | 30
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I agree with Johan, a very good summary of recent events and news.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 18 2024 15:43 utc | 31

Demilitarizion of 404 has been proceeding steadily since the start of the SMO, but the photo op into Kursk appears to be greatly speeding up the identification process. It appears to have been a magnet for the dedicated Nazi’s.
Belarus now has about a third of its military on the Ukraine border. I had read some days ago that Belarus was moving a lot of its military there.
I haven’t seen anything solid though on what forces are on the Ukraine side. Ukroids or sheep dipped Nato/Poles?
Some time back there was the talk of Nato/Europen forces going into western Ukraine to free up the cannon fodder there and allow them the joys of being on the wrong end of the frontline Russian military machine.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:43 utc | 32

******* My cell phone doesn’t have a mouse. malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:31 utc | 6
****BS BS BS** malenkov | Aug 18 2024 14:52 utc | 12
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Hey malenkov, take your finger out of your a*s and use it for a mouse.
You BS and BS about trolls and you are the biggest distraction on this blog. It’s because you’re psychologically insecure and intellectually deficient. So take your meds, and shut up until you can get control of yourself.

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 18 2024 15:46 utc | 33

In reponse to: Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:29 utc | 29
Thank you for posting this. The other tidbit to add to the idiocy of this story is simple geography. Nobody in his right mind would use Qatar or any other gulf venu for “secret” talks while the entire world is waiting for an Iranian response to the murder of the Hamas leader Haniyeh in Tehran.

Posted by: Stierlitz | Aug 18 2024 15:46 utc | 34

Posted by: marcjf | Aug 18 2024 15:23 utc | 28
Now you mention it, I can’t recall seeing that units name previously “mentioned in dispatches” either. I’ve generally lost track of Ukrainian reformations and redesignations, The whole business gives the distinct impression of an army in a state of chaotic disarray.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 15:52 utc | 35

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 14:44 utc | 9
These go one better, wearing a Stahlhelm, LARPing as German soldiers in ‘43, and abusing the local populace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bQQhf4gwRA
Where’s there a Ka-52 when you need one?

Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 15:55 utc | 36

Why are grown (old?) people members of cult of copium/hopium?
I really don’t know why these people think that their dear leader does not lose a step as he gets old?
Maybe they want to stay stuck in their glory of days of their youth; when their kids are not listening to them and their wives are sick of these curmudgeons.
Have you tried to talk to old professors? They give so much time, that you regret ever asking them. The truth is that No one at home listen’s to their rants. In the departments they are put to pastures: so only those who read their old works and are members of their cults approach them right after their admissions etc; only to learn that the old guys get no respect at home or office. The old guys live in the past along with their cult fanboys: that is how they live in the past.
Remember, that Einstein was brought to the Princeton University: he had not produced anything here, his last production was in 1920’s. But he could be used as a recruiting tool. Just like Shaq and MJ. You should see them now!
No one has good productive run for more than 20 or so years.
So I sympathize with old dudes who hang around the bar–living out their glory days of past; while their kids are turning homosexual and they cannot reconcile with it.
Good luck!

Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 15:55 utc | 37

Regarding unit names and locations
https://militaryland.net/maps/deployment-map/
Try this site it’s pretty good and you’ll get a good feel for what units do what, and where they do it.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 15:56 utc | 38

Weeb Union 16 mins
Pokrovsk Disaster Russian Forces Can’t Be Stopped | AFU Capture Martynovka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_XkU_p_8C0

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 18 2024 15:56 utc | 39

Stierlitz | Aug 18 2024 15:46 utc | 36
You and Karl have certainly been proved right in that other thread.
As to the why of that WaPo story, it looks like the heat is being turned up on Zelensky. He is obviously getting past his useby date.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:56 utc | 40

Jerr | Aug 18 2024 15:46 utc | 35
“We are winning and in a great mood. Wipe your snot, bitches” – Marat Khairullin

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:57 utc | 41

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/terror-and-security/putin-has-broken-one-of-the-most-sacred-rules-of-warfare/
“The latest incident at Zaporizhzhia late last week, when Russian troops reportedly set tire fires beneath one of the cooling towers in response to Ukraine’s incursion into its territory, underscored Putin’s willingness to resort to nuclear provocation.”
And here was me thinking that Ukraine attacked a Russian controlled NPP with drones. Well now I have been properly put right by the DT, I see that I was subject to some very clever disinformation. I even thought it unlikely that Russia would shell their own troops in the ZNPP, but again, before clearly I was misinformed.No doubt the Putin will launch a missile attack on the Kursk NPP in the near future to create a nuclear incident in response to the panic caused by the masterly and wily blitzkrieg of the Kursk offensive – which as I understand is driving all before it just now and creating total chaos in Russia. I am frankly relieved that we in the West have such journals as the DT so I can find out the truth of events and not have to rely on government controlled propaganda.

Posted by: marcjf | Aug 18 2024 15:57 utc | 42

Victor | Aug 18 2024 15:55 utc | 39
“We are winning and in a great mood. Wipe your snot, bitches” – Marat Khairullin

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:59 utc | 43

Who will replace Lukashenko after 30 long years At The Helm? He’s been a good friend of the Russian President.

Posted by: AI | Aug 18 2024 16:00 utc | 44

@ marcjf | Aug 18 2024 15:57 utc | 44
Western propaganda is optimized for short term burst events, two years at the very most. Anything longer than that and their own “professionals” forget what they’ve lied about before, but also can’t come up with anything new since they’ve already lied about everything. This hardly is the only example either.

Posted by: boneless | Aug 18 2024 16:02 utc | 45

Milites | Aug 18 2024 15:55 utc | 38
They must think they are the mighty German military of the day launching operation Barbarossa.
Incredible how stupid these clowns are. Russia has simply labled this as an anti terrorist operation, not even qualifying for the battle of Kursk 2.0
But these clowns – the bodies and POWs that still have their gopros and smartphones with them – incredible

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:05 utc | 46

Posted by: Dr. Rob Campbell | Aug 18 2024 15:03 utc | 21
Thanks Dr. Campbell, informative and succint as usual.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 15:32 utc | 30

Why not drop pretenses and announce your love for each other? Or better go get a room?
Why do people’s panties get soaking wet, when their lords use “doctor”?: and this is funny “doctorow”?
All these people’s attempts at “appeal to authority” are such naked attempts at using this to attract copium intellectuals. But no matter, copium crowds’ panties start dripping even at the “Doctorow” moniker!
What a bunch of fools!

Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:08 utc | 47

Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:08 utc | 49
“We are winning and in a great mood. Wipe your snot, bitches” – Marat Khairullin
You trolls are as dumb ans the Ukroids larping in Kursk in their best Nazi regalia.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:12 utc | 48

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240818/russia-may-use-ukraines-kursk-attack-to-find-seams-in-its-defenses-elsewhere—uk-media-1119810551.html

The attack on Russia’s Kursk region launched on August 6 prompted the Ukrainian military to withdraw troops and weapons from its eastern front lines, leaving units “even more stretched,” US media outlets have underscored, dubbing the operation by Kiev a “risky gamble.”
Ukraine’s attempt to seize territory in the Kursk region could help the Russian Armed Forces find weak spots in the enemy’s defenses on other parts of the front, The Guardian speculated.
Prior to the attack on the Kursk region, the Kiev regime was already “suffering from a shortage of troops to rotate and hold the line” at the front, Jack Watling, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, told the outlet. Citing the “grim picture of retreat” served up by Ukraine’s Armed Forces ahead of the Kursk operation, the analyst noted that Kiev’s military has extremely limited capabilities to advance near Kursk “before it overextends.”
Last summer’s disastrous counteroffensive attempt by Ukraine resulted in massive losses of personnel and NATO-delivered weaponry. This year, despite more aid packages from its Western patrons, the puppet regime has suffered continuing combat failures and drastic manpower losses in the face of steady gains made by Russia’s Armed Forces.
Soon the intensity of hostilities will decrease as the Russian forces “will dig defenses and then bring up artillery, electronic warfare complexes and fresh troops,” as it has enough personnel and equipment – unlike Ukraine, the UK think tank analyst said.
Speculating that any effect of the operation in the Kursk region that Ukraine is staking on is temporary and could turn out extremely badly for it, he summed up:
“The stretching of Ukrainian resources will increase opportunities for the Russians to find the seams in Ukraine’s defenses and make advances elsewhere [on the front].”

Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:15 utc | 49

Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:08 utc | 49
Do you want some salt and vinegar for those chips on your shoulder?

Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 16:18 utc | 50

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:59 utc | 45
I did not know that criminal Peters or Pauls were winning! I did not even know if they were fighting?
Why not just stay in your penal colony, and keep robbing each other. As robbing Peter to pay Paul. Mongrals!

Posted by: Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:18 utc | 51

Victor | Aug 18 2024 16:18 utc | 53
“We are winning and in a great mood. Wipe your snot, bitches” – Marat Khairullin

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:19 utc | 52

Don’t feed the trolls.
Ta. D.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 18 2024 14:05 utc | 1

Posted by: james | Aug 18 2024 16:20 utc | 53

Victor@1608
As a proud 1968 drop-out from the U. of Minnesota in the Spring of ’68; I sure was a lot slower than Bob Dylan who got outta that same Dodge after a single semester. Whoever was concocting national policy after Sputnik went balls to the walls to massively overpopulate major edumacasional institutions with us War-Baby generation people and our kid brothers and younger sisters amongst the Boomers.
Yes, somehow the pattern became industrial-scale edumacasion. My first exposure to that institution’s psychology department in the fall of ’62 was a psych-101 lecture mass-class of over 2,000 crowded into the massive Northrup auditorium. It was a good venue for catching up on much needed naps.
Contrarily, I invested a semester at Washington University in St. Louis, where the undergrad body was at around 3,000 max while grad-schools took in more than 5,000. Thus, the entire system at that time was highly collegial, with direct contact with full professors…even for undergrads.
Currently, the bloated universities and colleges are experiencing a drop-off in new victims. Staff are beginning to lose their jobs. Those massive bureaucracies are imploding.
Meanwhile, the trades, such as bricklaying, carpentry, electricians, pipe-fitters and numerous other essential service people are not getting sufficient enrollees to keep this ruptured republic running.
I’ve no gripes with education…genuine ones. Having been a history honors student, with five distribution credits to go at that notorious You of Em; my studies in history, geography, ethnography, sociology and psychology have been entirely autodidactic in nature. Personal library exceeds 2,000 volumes. My take is that we must evolve from the university concept into a cosmoversity renaissance, with facilities built from the ground up by those who seek genuine learning along with a community of scholars. Is that too much to suggest?

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:26 utc | 54

marcjf@1557
One hopes that your source is purely satirical.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:30 utc | 55

Not feeding here, genuine question – @Victor, in your view, how high does the current Ukrainian mess in Kursk feature on the the list of “Great Military Balls-Ups”?
Would be interested to read a stable and coherent analysis from you…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 16:33 utc | 56

In total, 639 airplanes and 282 helicopters, 30,112 unmanned aerial vehicles, 575 air defence missile systems, 17,320 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,411 combat vehicles equipped with MLRS, 13,392 field artillery guns and mortars, as well as 24,894 units of special military equipment have been destroyed during the special military operation.
The grim meat-grinder grinds onward.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 14:06 utc | 3
13.4 K artillery units.
Just to pick one weapons system.
What’s left?
The warehouses must be nearly finished.

Posted by: jpc | Aug 18 2024 16:33 utc | 57

Just to pick one weapons system.
What’s left?
The warehouses must be nearly finished.
Posted by: jpc | Aug 18 2024 16:33 utc | 59
Naval and air. So its off to China we go….

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:37 utc | 58

Posted by: boneless | Aug 18 2024 16:02 utc | 47
The problem is the target audience are evolving and such techniques are increasingly ineffective, look at the recent attempts by the MSM to re-write Harris’ bio, it was mercilessly shredded by memes and Tik-Tok drive-bys. They are finding it difficult to adapt and overcome a legacy of sloth, entitlement and wresting on their laurels, hence the continued contraction of the industry.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 16:05 utc | 48
It’s definitely an indicator of the shocking lack of professionalism found in some of the forces used in this incursion. It’s also off-the-charts counter-productive, I would think these are for a ‘Ghoul Squad’ processing if they foolishly surrender and are recognised: however, given the footage was from RT, perhaps they’re already invaded Russia on a permanent basis.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 16:37 utc | 59

https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4831653-ukraines-kursk-offensive-is-a-huge-strategic-error/
Well, that makes it official. The Fanatical Pro-Ukraine, CIA dominated “The Hill” pronounced the Kursk thing a huge mistake.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 18 2024 16:42 utc | 60

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 18 2024 16:42 utc | 62
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Are we sure? Napoleon told me that the F-16s would destroy Russia and NATO would stroll to an easy victory now that American air power was deployed.
You can see my conundrum. Napoleon vs CIA. Both of them are very credible. 🙄 😂

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 18 2024 16:47 utc | 61

victor@1555
“Kids” do not TURN homosexual (sic). Samesex eroticism, according to the brain-surgeon/polymath, the late D. Leonard Shlain postulates that this variation from pure animal sexuality into numerous iterations is evolutionary within essentially each and every human population on the planet.
It is a historical given that the male samesex contingent is way overrepresented at the genius level with such individuals as Plato, Caesar, Hadrian, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Alexander, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, Wilde and numerous other samesex and bisex men as exemplary individuals.
In terms of human evolution, bisexuality is most probably the evolutionary norm. We currently exist in a highly devolution cultural reality, which was initially based on the phenomenon which I call the “JudieChristie MagickMindfuck”. This cultural degradation was initiated by the Roman Emperor Constantine, the publisher and editor of the “Holy” Bible. His Dictatorship of the Mediterranean world also engendered “Holy” Mother Church and its later offspring as the primary engineers of the Dark Ages, where European tribes were forcibly converted and rapidly were rendered illiterate.
Should any poster prefer to argue my conclusions, please be my guest. Do be prepared with logical, fact-based and cogent presentations.
The point of debate is the bifurcation between biologically impulsed animal sexuality versus eroticism as an evolutionary adaptation…most particularly as an antithetical response to urbanization and trends towards overpopulation.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:47 utc | 62

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 18 2024 16:42 utc | 62
Heh, I think most of us here could have told them that 12 days ago.
Is “Kurskiasco” too cumbersome?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 16:49 utc | 63

It seems to me ukrops are now the lowest form of humanity, much worse than the Israelis. The latter are sponges of America but they try to look strong and cruel, not passive-agressive beggars as ukrops do.
I’ve been doing business visiting Africa and LatAm and even in poverty they are dignified somehow. Respect. But ukrops, to reject their culture and get killed and maimed for western money, to fall so low to lick western ass and beg for acceptance while saying ‘look how the Russians are killing us please take us in NATO and the EU and send more money pleeeease’.
One wonders, how these peoples became so dishonorable and pathetic. My theory is because they lost their moral compass when communism collapsed upon them. With nothing left to retain a minimum of decency, and dreaming of being favorite lapdogs of the Anglo, them ukrops turned to ‘anything goes’.
Interesting thing is that other former republics of the Soviet Union did not turn into abject beggars and passive agressive bitches. Many of these republics retained Muslim morals so that was something solid they could rely on. Russia was the same as Ukraine for 10 yr and then turned into an independent great nation. The Baltics started to think of themselves as Swedes and Finns and Nors, though the poor version. Belarus remained formally communist under a strongman. But ukrops, what did they have? Nothing, so they fell into debauchery, cronyism, corruption, oligarchic rule, Jewish cunning, ‘anything goes’.
I think they need a strongman. Not a Jewish comedian of dubious sexuality snorting coke, dancing in high heels, playing the piano with a tiny circumsized dick. No. These lowly ukrops need a dictator to turn things around. After they recover their decency and sanity they may have some sort of democracy and build bridges to their strong neighbor, leave behind this pathetic period in their history as a made up nation. Bur first they need a dictator to clean up what will remain.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 16:51 utc | 64

My take is that we must evolve from the university concept into a cosmoversity renaissance, with facilities built from the ground up by those who seek genuine learning along with a community of scholars. Is that too much to suggest?

The only way left to us. I cherish my printed encyclopedias.

Posted by: Catilina | Aug 18 2024 16:56 utc | 65

neofeudalfuture@1457
Zelensky’s dilemma is primarily, almost exclusively, a matter of logistics. How the hell can they resupply the bubble with the Russians possessing almost total aerial supremacy…along with a massive artillery edge. The base of the bubble is not at all broad. Therefore, the Russians can pinch and squeeze at will.
Highly unlikely that the Ukies have brought in sufficient munitions and food to sustain their forces. Like those Japanese occupiers of numerous Pacific islands during WWII, those Ukrainians within the bubble will wither on the vine.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:57 utc | 66

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:29 utc | 29
M. V. Zakharova: No one plucked anything, because there was nothing to pluck.
(Nominated for quote of the day)
By the way, it is symbolic that the Armed Forces of Ukraine launched their Kursk sortie on August 6, the anniversary of the American nuclear bombing of Hiroshima – the first and only use of atomic weapons against the civilian population and civilian infrastructure in the history of mankind.
-Solzhenitsyn aptly described Nuremberg as a whitewash and shirking of accountability; to eradicate and destroy the very notion of evil from Europeans psyches. Somehow the same thing occurred with Japan where a genocidal nation overnight became victims by Hiroshima’s destruction, a city of foreigners and their lackeys. Perhaps that’s the point of it, Japan the prototype for Ukraine the penultimate quisling state after Germany, can be saved by a nuclear false flag that apparently won’t materialize since the central criterion for the event, the occupation of Kursk, is now fiction.

Posted by: Nothingburgers | Aug 18 2024 16:57 utc | 67

” In terms of human evolution, bisexuality is most probably the evolutionary norm.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 18 2024 16:47 utc | 64 ”
According to a homosexual.
You cant serve two masters, and there’s no way a man can have the same intensity of attraction to both men and women. Thats a modern myth. Not to mention, none of your conclusions were
” logical, fact-based and cogent presentations. ”
Additionally, many so called “bisexual” historical figures were actually just gay. For instance, Alexander the Great’s men were very surprised when he married Roxanne as they didnt think he could consummate the marriage since he never showed interest in woman before.

Posted by: Moonie | Aug 18 2024 17:01 utc | 68

Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 16:51 utc | 66
As Putin said, Stalin made a big mistake adding Galicia to Ukraine.
For the average Ukrainian, they may start to wake up when this is over and the sheer scale of their losses will hit them. The military cemeteries are a sea of flags and likely just as many again ‘MIA’. The front lines have been relatively static for quite some time. Now that those frontlines are starting to move, the Russians are finding the bones and rotting corpses of those MIA’s

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:02 utc | 69

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 18 2024 16:42 utc | 62
If I was Z I’d be nervous about receiving any personal ‘gifts’ from the West as this op-ed has been officially sanctioned, given there’s little to no academic freedom or spontaneity anymore. A situation which, although maddening, makes articles like this useful indicators for where, or whom, the Eye of Sauron is looking at currently.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 18 2024 17:03 utc | 70

@68 aristdemos
Re: kursk supply lines.
The maps I’ve seen show the one main highway to sudzha, but the base of the salient is much wider than the northern tip. They cam easily supply a largely infantry led for there of thousands indefinitely. The vehicles, not so much but they don’t last long out of cover so they don’t need supplies.
Russia is unable to pinch it off, everything points to a grind down the window for pinching it off was a few days in, but they had nothing ready then.
So now, meatgrinder unless ukraine withdraws it infantry.
The calculations for a Ukrainian withdrawal look low. They can’t simply go back to the border Russia won’t let go now until there’s a buffer in ukraine.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 17:08 utc | 71

Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 17:08 utc | 73
The logistics – the numbers now surrendering. I suspect the two go hand in hand.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:10 utc | 72

Whenever you see the western msm criticize Zelensky, remember this….
“The US administration is planning to launch a powerful information campaign to discredit Zelensky in order to force him to leave his post, the SVR said.”
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240813/us-working-to-replace-zelensky-with-less-corrupt-figure–russias-svr-1119749272.html

Posted by: wagelaborer | Aug 18 2024 17:11 utc | 73

Zelensky is going to get “regime-changed”, the keyboard lid is going to slam shut.
The only way he gets out alive is if he has full, backed-up copies of the “Burisma Files”, with a dead man’s switch attached.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:16 utc | 74

Demilitarizion of 404 has been proceeding steadily since the start of the SMO,
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 15:43 utc | 34
😀😃😅
Qu’est-ce que tu fumes?
Here are some weapons Ukraine has received since the start of Putin’s SMO:
1. Stinger missiles
2. HIMARS, ATACMS
3. M1, Leopard Tanks
4. Drones. Drones. Drones.
5. Stryker fighting vehicles
6. Patriot missiles
7. Harpoon missiles
8. Howitzers
9. Cruise Missiles (Storm Shadow)
10. F-16s
Wake up and smell the coffee. The SMO ended years ago. Putin failed. He has turned Ukraine into a NATO super-member.

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:25 utc | 75

Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:25 utc | 77
“We are winning and in a great mood. Wipe your snot, bitches” – Marat Khairullin

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:26 utc | 76

The Holy Roman Empire of Westphalia vs Constantinople

Maria Zakharova
The All-Ukrainian Council of Churches and Religious Organizations has supported a bill banning the canonical Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
Satanists.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:30 utc | 77

Here’s the full report that was first noted by Jeremy Rhymings-Lang @5 above:

About prisoners or why did Ukraine suddenly start talking about an exchange?
No sooner had the Ukies entered the Kursk region than they immediately began to squeal about exchanges. They say they have a lot of our prisoners, it is necessary to urgently arrange an exchange.
In general, this situation is not typical for dill. Experts know that the Ukrainians are very stubborn negotiators on this issue. Not only are they frankly tight and try to cheat all the time, but they are also very cruel. Real animals.
For them, for example, the norm is to return prisoners with demonstrative injuries and traces of torture.
And then they just made a fuss. Both with prisoners and with the civilian population they suddenly became humane – they give water to drink on camera, behave quietly.
They rob, mock, of course, how can they do without it, but it is clear that they restrain themselves. They are very restrained.
And it’s not just about PR.
In the first days, as a result of deep raids by our Special Forces on the border territory of the enemy, several high-ranking officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were captured by us at once. Today, at least one general is known (presumably the chief of staff of the Khortytsia group), not counting several senior officers. Among whom there are also foreigners. It is known, for example, about a Spanish officer (possibly English or American).
Also, together with the commanders, a full set of staff documents and electronic media was taken.
This explains, apparently, the unexpected humanity of the dill and the desire to make an exchange as soon as possible.
Generally speaking, the process of desertion of high-ranking officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2024 has taken on the character of an epidemic. It is known that in July alone, five officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, special services and various departments defected to the side of the Russian Federation, and in most cases together with their families. And this is not counting the escape of a number of officials of civil departments.

I’d expect the flow of defectors to continue to increase as the end point nears. Of course, defections aren’t noted publicly by Russia’s military, so to get any sort of word about their nature is rather rare. I wonder if Marat was given the info and told to disseminate it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 18 2024 17:31 utc | 78

Posted by: Nazipoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:25 utc | 77
It would be quite a spreadsheet exercise to correlate your list of equipment with the losses recorded by the Russian Defence Ministry since the start of the SMO, see how much stuff is actually left.
BTW, FYI there is no credible evidence that the F-16s have actually been delivered yet. Zelly posing in front of an obsolete version in Romania doesn’t count.
For the time being, they remain Schrödingers F-16s…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:33 utc | 79

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:02 utc | 71

The military cemeteries are a sea of flags and likely just as many again ‘MIA’.

Yup.
Btw, when I saw the picture of the funny face ukrop minister of foreign affairs walking the Jewish equivalent of the USA thru vast cemeteries of flagged dead ukrops the message was: we are delivering.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 18 2024 17:36 utc | 80

karlof1 | Aug 18 2024 17:31 utc | 80
Thanks Karl. I guess it was the Brits or Americans gave orders for prisoners …

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:40 utc | 81

defections aren’t noted publicly by Russia’s military, so to get any sort of word about their nature is rather rare. I wonder if Marat was given the info and told to disseminate it.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 18 2024 17:31 utc | 80
That’s exactly what struck me about the report, it was the first time in ages that anything had emerged about high-ranking Ukrainian defections.
It is certainly possible that it is a calculated move to raise the public profile of such defections.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:41 utc | 82

@Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:33 utc | 81
If you are delusional enough to believe this go ahead:
“Demilitarizion of 404 has been proceeding steadily since the start of the SMO…”

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 83

Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 85
“We are winning and in a great mood. Wipe your snot, bitches” – Marat Khairullin

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:43 utc | 84

Posted by: Nazipoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 85
Not delusional, reality. Demilitarisation continues on the Donbass front (at an increased pace), and now on the Kursk/Sumy border.
“You can ignore reality, but you can’t ignore the consequences of ignoring reality” said somebody, somewhere.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:51 utc | 85

Posted by: Nazipoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 85
Face it dude, the Kurskiasco is going to end up in the list of “Great Military Balls-Ups”.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:57 utc | 86

@74 Peter
Re: correlating logistics and surrenders.
The videos and numbers I’ve seen don’t seem operationally significant, from either side. It’s more fluid further north and the sabotage and reconnaissance groups get cut down sometimes.
There is some logistics problems further north so ukraine has been spreading along the border in response. Infantry supplies can be brought in a number of ways that don’t involve convoys of vehicles or distributed from a centralized warehouse. A thousand guys with rifles and grenades supported by thousands of fpv drones can stay in business a long time, especially if they’re hiding in dense forests, as evidenced by the eternal battle north of seversk.
They will need to be killed 1 or 2 at a time which is much slower than they can be reinforced.
I figure Ukraine will draw it out as long as possible in Kursk and they can do it for months or longer,
This will depend of course on events elsewhere but as long as ukraine wants to use it’s new 25-27 mobilization cohort in this way this is the way it is

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 18:00 utc | 87

Zelensky is not smart enough to have a dead man’s switch. He was drawn in by money and he trusted the people that gave him the money. Then, he got more money, and more again. And he trusted the bagmen and the higher ups. And he trusted Bono. Big mistake.

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Aug 18 2024 18:01 utc | 88

Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 17:40 utc | 83–
Thanks Peter. The video snippets at Martyanov’s are telling. The two most impactful IMO being the body being pulled from the forest and tossed onto a heap of other bodies, and the long line of POWs, Martyanov says a full platoon, but given Ukie brigade strength, that could be what remains of one.
Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 18 2024 17:41 utc | 84–
Thanks for your reply. Putin’s very smart to remain restrained and let the Hawks talk.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 18 2024 18:03 utc | 89

Dafuq with the HTML quote attribution stuff? Neither my new phone nor any PC browser has that alleged functionality. Is it a honeypot trick or something? We already have had italics or blockquotes forever. I’ve rarely if ever had any issues with figuring out what text is quoted vs. a poster’s own words.
Nonsense.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 18 2024 18:04 utc | 90

Did a search on MSM Ukraine news for Australia in the last 24 hours.
These headlines are the crap Australians are still being fed.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ukraine&t=opera&iar=news&df=d&ia=news
I guess it will be the same in the rest of the western world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 18:05 utc | 91

Neofeudalfuture | Aug 18 2024 18:00 utc | 89
Re the move along the border – I had similar thoughts about that. I don’t think Russia is very concerned about pushing them back across the border. Russia looks to have put just sufficient forces to exact a high attrition on the Nato forces. Like the eastern front has been, Russia is likely to just keep a heavy pressure on them until Nato/Kiev stops sending cannon fodder in, then the Russians will move forward.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 18 2024 18:12 utc | 92

the reality is ukraine has a vast theritory obtained at ww2 on behalf of soviet union from the surrounding countries like Poland, Hungary, Romania… its pretty incredible the silence of the eu members, in regards to this.

Posted by: innuendo | Aug 18 2024 18:13 utc | 93

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 18 2024 17:42 utc | 85
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Where are the F-16s?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 18 2024 18:14 utc | 94

Johan #66
sorry But Not even in same league as zionism.

Posted by: thebeek | Aug 18 2024 18:15 utc | 95

Nonsense.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 18 2024 18:04 utc | 92
The HTML tags on the “Post a Comment” page has been there the decade or so
I have been posting.
Allowed HTML Tags:
Text → Text
Text → Text
Text → Text

Text

Link to Wikileaks → Link to Wikileaks

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 18 2024 18:15 utc | 96

Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Aug 18 2024 18:01 utc | 90
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Zelensky is an actor. He’s like that “Mandarin” character from the Iron Man movies. Playing a role on television.
Please, folks, stop attributing any decision-making or responsibility to a paid stooge.
In many regards, he is like Trump. Playing the role of President but unable to enact or lead any policy (unless it is on behalf of Bibi Netanyahu in Trump’s case).
Do people really believe in 2024 that corporations (BlackRock, MIC, Alphabet, Palantir, etc.) allow Western governmental executives to have any agency?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 18 2024 18:22 utc | 97

aristodemos @ 64
Caesar was gay?! 😱
Actually, I’m more shocked at my own ignorance.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 18 2024 18:26 utc | 98

“Posters are using a variety of quoting styles to include text from other posts. This requires mental effort to figure out the quoting style and identify what actually belongs to the poster. There is an easier way that readers can easily identify what is the posters and what is being quoted. When you are at the reply box, move the mouse to the middle of the right half. Slowly slide upwards until you reach the word QUOTE. Triple-click on it. This selects the HTML for quoting. Right click and from the menu select copy. Now move to the reply box. Right click and select paste. Of course you can use control-c for copy and control-v for paste. One last thing. Double click on the word Text and press Enter twice. This gives you a big fat target between the HTML tags where you can paste in the text you are quoting. Go to the end of the text in the reply box and type your response. Repeat as necessary. Thank you for being a professional internet user and not an annoying childish twerp.
Posted by: frkorz | Aug 18 2024 14:09 utc | 4”
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I really appreciate the spirit of this, but I don’t seem to be able to make it work.
For one, I don’t have the word “QUOTE”, other than as part of “BLOCKQUOTE”.
And none of the words there seem to be linked to menus. I am using Chrome on a laptop. Here is what I see:
Allowed HTML Tags:
Text → Text
Text → Text
Text → Text

Text

Link to Wikileaks → Link to Wikileaks
[Only the very last “Link to Wikileaks” is a hyperlink.
Also, the whole triple click and right click doesn’t seem to open up menus for me, even trying to use it on BLOCKQUOTE. Triple clicking on the BLOCKQUOTE highlights that word, but that’s it. Rightclicking does nothing. It’s all just text, not linked to menus.
Of course, I could just copy the HTML tags, themselves. Actually now, I guess this is what you meant!

Thank you for being a professional internet user and not an annoying childish twerp.

Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 18 2024 18:27 utc | 99

Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 18 2024 18:15 utc | 98
No kidding. /sarc That’s not what the OP was saying. Scan my own comment history if you think I don’t understand HTML tags.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 18 2024 18:27 utc | 100