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August 16, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-194
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The Russia fans are so way up the river Da Nile, I feel like the explorer Henry Morton Stanley, searching for the source of the great river: Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 16 2024 19:37 utc | 201 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 19:07 utc | 177 Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 16 2024 19:37 utc | 202 Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 16 2024 19:25 utc | 189 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2024 19:37 utc | 203 i really hope that the “ukrainians” are not so stupid to actually target the kursk npp or the energodar one. Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 16 2024 19:38 utc | 204 I think, we have all along, suspected that Nato troops have been fighting alongside the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi forces in Ukraine – and now in the Russian region of Kursk. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 16 2024 19:39 utc | 205 All these stories about dirty bombs and such make it evident that the West is desperate for a huge false-flag. They need to accuse Russia of using nukes in Ukraine. If you think about it, launching a dirty bomb at either the ZNPP or the one in Kursk has zero downside for the psychos: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 16 2024 19:40 utc | 206 The bridge over the Seim River in the village of Zvannoye, Glushkovsky District, Kursk Region, was hit by the Ukrainian Armed Forces using HIMARS. This is clearly visible in the first four holes that the HIMARS leaves behind. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 16 2024 19:41 utc | 207 AFAIK it’s only the XL shortcut that’s stopped, the rest of the pipeline is still in operation. Posted by: kupkee | Aug 16 2024 19:42 utc | 208 unimperator | Aug 16 2024 19:33 utc | 199 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 19:44 utc | 209 Unnamed | Aug 16 2024 19:37 utc | 202 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 19:46 utc | 210 And might as well go with this one: Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2024 19:46 utc | 211 🇷🇺☢️🇺🇦 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 16 2024 19:47 utc | 212 Ukrainian Forces May Be Planning a ‘Dirty Bomb’ Provocation Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 19:48 utc | 213 Russia is backed into a corner trying to destroy what it can. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 16 2024 19:48 utc | 214 Thank you Peter AU1 for your service in calling out and identifying the numerous trolls that infest the Bar. It makes it easier to skip over and not waste time reading their stupid attempts to influence thought here. Cheers! Posted by: Greg C | Aug 16 2024 19:49 utc | 215 Posted by: anonposter | Aug 16 2024 19:27 utc | 194 Posted by: Jonathan | Aug 16 2024 19:49 utc | 216 I second the thank you and callout of Peter AU1 for good work. Cheers, mate, wish I could buy you a real good German beer. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 16 2024 19:51 utc | 217 canuck | Aug 16 2024 19:26 utc | 190 Russia’s first world-sized mistake was letting Nordstream “slide” (as they say). And with that hugely important destroyed energy resource, the underlying message sent to Russia was “in your face”(as they say). Or maybe it was “do something about it.” Posted by: elmagnosr | Aug 16 2024 19:55 utc | 219 “Fuck off troll.” Posted by: Victor | Aug 16 2024 19:55 utc | 220 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 16 2024 19:40 utc | 206 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 16 2024 19:57 utc | 221 Hey fuck face. The frogs in my pond croak more intellectually than u could ever. We all know who wears the panties u c***. Just another get what u give moment for the trudopian musk mellon. You make canuck synonym for clown. Good job fuck face. Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 16 2024 20:00 utc | 223 Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 16 2024 19:37 utc | 201 Posted by: kupkee | Aug 16 2024 20:00 utc | 224
a prime example of western values. Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 16 2024 20:00 utc | 225 @HERMIUS | Aug 16 2024 19:59 utc | 222
I have not seen any confirmation of the first unconfirmed message. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 20:00 utc | 226 Posted by: ChatNPC | Aug 16 2024 19:57 utc | 221 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 16 2024 20:01 utc | 227 The Ukrainian Armed Forces are preparing to explode a “dirty” nuclear bomb, they plan to strike spent fuel storage sites NPP – RT with reference to Marat Khairulin Posted by: Call it what u will | Aug 16 2024 20:02 utc | 228 ChatNPC | Aug 16 2024 19:57 utc | 221 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 20:03 utc | 229 A “dirty bomb” won’t cause a nuclear explosion. What it will do is contaminate an area and make it very hard to work in, maybe a no-go zone without expensive protective gear and robots. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 16 2024 20:06 utc | 230 Aww, what the heck? For the benefit of Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2024 20:06 utc | 231 Call it what u will | Aug 16 2024 20:02 utc | 228 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 20:06 utc | 232 Posted by: Victor | Aug 16 2024 19:55 utc | 220 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2024 20:09 utc | 233 @ HERMIUS | Aug 16 2024 19:59 utc | 222 Posted by: boneless | Aug 16 2024 20:10 utc | 234 Ghost of Zanon | Aug 16 2024 20:01 utc | 227 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 20:10 utc | 235 Great Duran video on Kursk: “Kursk information war. Donbass reality”. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Aug 16 2024 20:10 utc | 236 Also, the hacker “Joker DNR” reported: Posted by: Jo | Aug 16 2024 20:11 utc | 237 Posted by: elmagnosr | Aug 16 2024 19:55 utc | 219 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 16 2024 20:12 utc | 238 In a briefing not long back, the heard of Russian nuclear and biological defence said Russia believed Ukraine had one or more dirty bombs already built. Posted by: Call it what u will | Aug 16 2024 20:14 utc | 239 “Hey fuck face. The frogs in my pond croak more intellectually than u could ever. We all know who wears the panties u c***. Just another get what u give moment for the trudopian musk mellon. You make canuck synonym for clown. Good job fuck face.” Something’s gonna happen and it’ll be bad.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2024 20:18 utc | 241 unimperator. 238 Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 16 2024 20:18 utc | 242 @ Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 20:10 utc | 235 Posted by: boneless | Aug 16 2024 20:19 utc | 243 Jo | Aug 16 2024 20:11 utc | 237 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 20:19 utc | 244 Earlier I mentioned that the drone at ZNPP was an RSVP for negotiations and the menu was “nuclear blackmail” Posted by: rk | Aug 16 2024 20:21 utc | 245 Posted by: Victor | Aug 16 2024 18:35 utc | 161 Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 16 2024 20:21 utc | 246
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/124361 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 20:22 utc | 247 Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 16 2024 20:18 utc | 242 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2024 20:24 utc | 248 When you have no morals, no principals, no empathy, when you do not respect any low, you can win easily. That is what the Ukraine would do by detonating a dirty bomb. Posted by: vargas | Aug 16 2024 20:25 utc | 249 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 20:22 utc | 247 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 16 2024 20:25 utc | 250 Russia owned only half of NordStream 2. The other half was owned and paid by European energy companies. Posted by: rk | Aug 16 2024 20:26 utc | 251 Posted by: Unnamed | Aug 16 2024 20:21 utc | 246 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2024 20:26 utc | 252 Posted by: rk | Aug 16 2024 20:21 utc | 245 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2024 20:26 utc | 253 Russia Carries Out Pinpoint Missile Strikes AFU officer HQ’s in Poltava, Cherkassy and Kharkov Regions Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 16 2024 20:28 utc | 254 LOL: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2024 20:28 utc | 255 I like the pre-HTML yippie everything for everybody wide openness of MoA but sometimes it’s a bit much, though the waves of troll infestation are an odd measure of the influence MoA is believed to have by some Dolores Umbridge somewhere. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2024 20:29 utc | 256 Posted by: rk | Aug 16 2024 20:26 utc | 251 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2024 20:32 utc | 257 Dima says the AFU attacks toward Koronevo have been halted. This has effectively deflected AFU attacks to the west. And they could take Glushkovo and surroundings (hope they evacced all citizens from these border areas). Posted by: unimperator | Aug 16 2024 20:34 utc | 258 LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2024 20:26 utc | 253 Posted by: rk | Aug 16 2024 20:35 utc | 259 ‼️🇺🇸🏴☠️🇬🇧🇺🇦 Kiev is planning not only to hit the Kursk and Zaporizhia nuclear power plants, but is also preparing to detonate a dirty nuclear bomb Posted by: Call it what u will | Aug 16 2024 20:36 utc | 260
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2024 20:29 utc | 256 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2024 20:36 utc | 261 Tom_Q_Collins @ 255
Except for vargas who’s 10ys/o and escapes parental controls. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2024 20:36 utc | 262 boneless | Aug 16 2024 20:19 utc | 243 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 20:37 utc | 263 LOL redux:
[Video was purged from YouTube along with all the rest of Abby Martin’s “Breaking the Set” and RT content] Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2024 20:38 utc | 264 @Ghost of Zanon | Aug 16 2024 20:25 utc | 250 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 20:41 utc | 265 Hey fuck face Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 16 2024 20:42 utc | 266 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2024 20:36 utc | 262 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2024 20:43 utc | 267 The dirty bomb talk is so depressing, especially because I think it’s conceivable. Posted by: Konami | Aug 16 2024 20:43 utc | 268 ATACMS FLOP AGAINST RUSSIAN AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS PROTECTING THE CRIMEA BRIDGE! Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 16 2024 20:44 utc | 269 unimperator @ 258
If the AFU had taken the Kursk NPP there would have something big coming and Russia would have been given some ultimatum, “better deal now!” But, since the AFU failed at the key NNP part, you can still bet there is something big coming only with no, “better deal now!” Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2024 20:45 utc | 270 💥Two Patriot SAM launchers destroyed in Dnepropetrovsk region Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 20:46 utc | 271 That is why you don’t understand nothing and will keep understanding nothing. Posted by: Milton | Aug 16 2024 20:47 utc | 272 “I only recently turned 30. ” Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2024 20:45 utc | 270 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 16 2024 20:48 utc | 274 ATACMS FLOP AGAINST RUSSIAN AIR DEFENCE SYSTEMS PROTECTING THE CRIMEA BRIDGE! Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Aug 16 2024 20:49 utc | 275 Konami | Aug 16 2024 20:43 utc | 268 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 20:50 utc | 276 Posted by: Down South | Aug 16 2024 10:11 utc | 5 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 16 2024 20:50 utc | 277
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/119655 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 20:50 utc | 278 @ Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 20:37 utc | 263 Posted by: boneless | Aug 16 2024 20:51 utc | 279 Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 16 2024 19:37 utc | 201 Posted by: Milites | Aug 16 2024 21:02 utc | 280 boneless | Aug 16 2024 20:51 utc | 279 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 21:03 utc | 281 Oh, the Canadians, Austraians, and others Posted by: hh | Aug 16 2024 21:06 utc | 282
China got diversifying its energy supplies and I wouldn’t believe Beijing and Washington to be enemies. Posted by: Freya | Aug 16 2024 21:07 utc | 283 Pepe has an article out on what’s been said behind closed doors of power in Kremlin, that it’s a major intelligence failure not to detect the build-up of large Ukie forces needed for the incursion. Posted by: Surferket | Aug 16 2024 21:07 utc | 284 @Milites | Aug 16 2024 21:02 utc | 280 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 21:08 utc | 285 twelve US-made MGM-ATACMS failed to hit any targets Posted by: Passerby | Aug 16 2024 21:08 utc | 286 Milites | Aug 16 2024 21:02 utc | 280 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 21:09 utc | 287 Posted by: Freya | Aug 16 2024 21:07 utc | 283 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 16 2024 21:12 utc | 288 Ted from Liverpool @ 275
Nah, they are testing the AD, fine tuning, they’ll keep at it each time a bit bigger, a bit different way. The thing about finding out you have invested (stolen) tens of trillions over the last 50ys on a galactic pile of crap weapons is you might as well use them all up now that you have the chance. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 16 2024 21:12 utc | 289 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 16 2024 20:44 utc | 269 Posted by: Milites | Aug 16 2024 21:13 utc | 290 There is a similarity between the Ukraine as a proxy and the Russian-Japanese war of 1904-05 in which Britain supplied navy ships to Japan and the loans to purchase them. Posted by: hh | Aug 16 2024 21:13 utc | 291 Regarding the “dirty nuclear bomb”, Martyanov opines: Most likely Marat’s TG channel got hacked, 404 doesn’t have nuclear weapons, “dirty bomb” IS NOT a nuclear weapon, though he’s likely guessing what’s up as much as anyone. Posted by: Call it what u will | Aug 16 2024 21:16 utc | 292 [Video was purged from YouTube along with all the rest of Abby Martin’s “Breaking the Set” and RT content] Posted by: hh | Aug 16 2024 21:21 utc | 293 Posted by: hh | Aug 16 2024 21:21 utc | 293 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 16 2024 21:26 utc | 294 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 21:03 utc | 281 Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 16 2024 21:27 utc | 295 Milites @280: “I seem to remember similar stories in ‘23, and nothing happened. I’m not saying it’s outside the realms of probability but it might become ‘the sources who cried dirty wolf, sorry bomb!’” Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 16 2024 21:27 utc | 296 How much is in this I don’t know, but it fits much of what I have been seeing.
Martyanov had a piece on the supposed assignation attempt on Putin and the phone call of the Russian defense minister and his US counterpart and the warning. Martyanov had read the official report on the call and called bullshit on the RT story. What is appearing now from various scours, coupled to the Rus Mod briefing may be more along the lines of what that phone call was about. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 16 2024 21:29 utc | 297 Russia Carries Out Pinpoint Missile Strikes on AFU officer HQ’s in Poltava, Cherkassy and Kharkov Regions Posted by: Fyador | Aug 16 2024 21:30 utc | 298 @ Surferket | Aug 16 2024 21:07 utc | 284 with the latest Pepe link that ends with
Thanks for that link….Pepe is good in my estimation Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 16 2024 21:31 utc | 299 Posted by: The Kaker | Aug 16 2024 21:22 utc | 294 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 16 2024 21:31 utc | 300 |
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