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August 8, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-188
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I have postulated before, that the slow-moving attrition tactics are effective, but the very real danger of continuing with this tactic here and now, is that the forces of Mordor, unharrassed therefore undeterred, grow and prepare by the day, scaling up weapons manufacturing, revising strategery (ode to GW Bush-critter) based on new battlefield realities / limitations. Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 8 2024 19:35 utc | 101 Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 8 2024 19:35 utc | 101 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 19:37 utc | 102 Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 19:37 utc | 102 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 19:43 utc | 103 Zero hedge is now reporting that the US is giving 3.9bln USD in direct economic aid. Putatively for civil servant wages this will most likely go to bond payments to avoid full default. Posted by: SOS | Aug 8 2024 19:46 utc | 104 – In Bolshaya Soldatovka, the enemy faced resistance. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 19:49 utc | 105 It is amazing that Russians cannot even bring reinforcements fast enough. Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:50 utc | 106 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 18:08 utc | 79 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 19:52 utc | 107 Dima says that Ukraine managed to expand the area they control much further. Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:56 utc | 108 Wait, what? Ukr. troops changing into Russian uniforms for sabotage ? I guess that seals the Battle of The Bulge analogy. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 19:57 utc | 109 Milites | Aug 8 2024 19:52 utc | 107 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 110 Remarque : j’espère que l’avancée de l’Ukraine sera stoppée le plus tôt possible. Votre Emporeur soutient un cessez-le-feu immédiat. Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 111 Posted by: Englishman | Aug 8 2024 14:51 utc | 15 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 112 I find it really encouraging that someone like Medvedev doesnt realise that the enemy gets a vote. It will, and already has, blow up on their faces spectacularly. Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 20:02 utc | 113 Napoleon | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 111 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 20:07 utc | 114 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 19:23 utc | 97 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnassigh | Aug 8 2024 20:08 utc | 115 I almost want to sympathize with the pro-RU ultranationalists in these trying times. They’ve spent their entire lives being told that Russia is the second army of the world, and they just watched a small country of farmers with mothballed NATO equipment launch an offensive into their territories after holding a stalemate for three years. Posted by: Thetoppassenger | Aug 8 2024 20:09 utc | 116 Thetoppassenger | Aug 8 2024 20:09 utc | 116 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:14 utc | 117 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 19:37 utc | 102 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 20:14 utc | 118 Posted by: Thetoppassenger | Aug 8 2024 20:09 utc | 116 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 20:18 utc | 119
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 20:18 utc | 120 Milites Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:19 utc | 121 The great Kiev Offensive 2.0 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 20:23 utc | 122 Thetoppassenger | Aug 8 2024 20:09 utc | 116 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 123 Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnassigh | Aug 8 2024 20:08 utc | 115 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 124 Ukraine is ALL IN. This is everything they have in Kursk. Everything. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 125 Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:50 utc | 106 Posted by: anonymoud | Aug 8 2024 20:26 utc | 126 Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39 Posted by: kupkee | Aug 8 2024 20:34 utc | 127 unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 125 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:34 utc | 128 Ermak explained Ukranian demands: Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 20:35 utc | 129 Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:50 utc | 106 Posted by: Ново З | Aug 8 2024 20:35 utc | 130 Ukraine is ALL IN. This is everything they have in Kursk. Everything. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 20:37 utc | 131
1) There’s no proof that Ukraine put everything they have into this Kursk assault. Posted by: bored | Aug 8 2024 20:38 utc | 132 It’s a 1,300 mile front-no country can plug very hole. This is a de minimus attack and I agree with b yjat in 2 or three days it will be over. Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 20:41 utc | 133 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:34 utc | 128 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:42 utc | 134
the fixation on those 1991 borders (without the people in it of course, as “ukrainians” dont want the ukrainians that live there, go figure) is the main us/uk demand, not “ukraines”. Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 20:43 utc | 135 Die letzte Chance für den israelischen Kriegstreiber Blinken und seine Demokratenfreunde Russland zu vernichten. Anscheinend hat er diese Provokation befohlen, weil er darauf setzt, daß die Russen taktische Kernwaffen einsetzten, wenn es ihnen zu heiß wird, und dann könnten die F-16 der Ukrainer auch Kernwaffen gegen Russland einsetzten. Aber das wird wohl nichts, oder falls doch, würde Polen, die Balten und ein paar weitere Freunde für längere Zeit keine Waffen mehr in den USA kaufen können – und das will ja nun wirklich niemand. Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 8 2024 20:45 utc | 136
judging by the french and polish speaking idiots that were driven back via ambulance, and the constant flight of planes from poland to germanies hospitals over the course of their little misadventure, i am not sure that nato is laughing its ass off at their fiasco. Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 20:45 utc | 137 Re: NATO, remember this military “power” couldn’t pacify illiterate goat herders in Afghanistan after 20 years. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 20:50 utc | 139
Of course, there’s no ‘direct’ evidence. You have plenty of secondary/indirect evidence that no more reinforcements or fire support means to Donbass, RUAF is making more unimpeded gains and everything from Belarus border was transferred next to Kursk. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:53 utc | 140 Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39 Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 8 2024 20:59 utc | 141 As predicted, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are facing challenges in establishing field warehouses for ammunition and fuel and lubricants. The further away from their own territory, the harder it is for them. Russian reconissance units are consistently discovering and destroying these locations shortly after they are set up. Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 20:59 utc | 142 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:19 utc | 121 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 21:00 utc | 143 Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 111 Posted by: kupkee | Aug 8 2024 21:04 utc | 144 Well, as a lot of you’re guessing, this ukro-nazi attack finally will make a lot of things easier for the Russians, for example the Chinese factor is now neutralised. Elena Panina complements Medvedev here:
Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:06 utc | 145 Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 20:02 utc | 113 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:10 utc | 146 Can a drone UAV destroy jet aircraft? Posted by: Nothingburgers | Aug 8 2024 21:11 utc | 147 This is a propaganda offensive. Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:11 utc | 148 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:10 utc | 146 Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 21:14 utc | 149 “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:14 utc | 150 Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:06 utc | 145 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:16 utc | 151 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:16 utc | 151 Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 21:18 utc | 152 Boy, howdy, the trolls certainly are out in force. Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:20 utc | 153 Reality, such as this Slavic Tet Offensive, is much less kind. Never fear, this new front will eventually lock. If you are a Putin fan, hope that this happens behind the Russian border, anything else would be laughable and very 404. Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 21:20 utc | 154 southfront has a nice article up about french dying in droves to russian longrange strikes. no wonder napoleon is so frustrated. Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 21:23 utc | 155 The strangest update on the Dima report was: AFU had managed to move 6 Bradleys with infantry to the village of Kromskie Byki, 18km NNW of Malaya Loknya, or 32 km NNW of Sudzha. This would represent the extreme extent of the known penetration so far. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 21:23 utc | 156 The AFU began engineering the terrain on the so-called “Surovikin line”, building a fortified area there. Most likely, tonight they will attempt to drag engineering equipment further and begin equipping another line, from which it will be more difficult for the AFU to be dislodged. Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 8 2024 21:25 utc | 157 Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:06 utc | 145 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 21:28 utc | 158 Barflies, please skip posts by anonymous, napoleon, and vargas. Posted by: despondent | Aug 8 2024 21:29 utc | 159 Hmm, isn’t calling the Ukraine operation a war punishable by quick removal to gulag in russia ? Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:29 utc | 160 I get a bad feeling about this Kursk invasion. It starts to look like an Anwar Sadat headfake. Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 8 2024 21:30 utc | 161 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:16 utc | 151 Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:30 utc | 162 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:10 utc | 146 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:31 utc | 163 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 19:43 utc | 103 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:34 utc | 164 Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:50 utc | 106 Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 21:35 utc | 165 The situation has become so bad that I think the fate of the current Russian leadership and direction will be decided in the coming week. Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:36 utc | 166 House!!! Troll Bingo….the full set Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:37 utc | 167 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:31 utc | 163 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:37 utc | 168 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 21:28 utc | 158 Posted by: a stone | Aug 8 2024 21:38 utc | 169 I never insulted anybody here. Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:41 utc | 170 Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:19 utc | 121 Posted by: Cynic | Aug 8 2024 21:43 utc | 171 And how do you defend the atrocities of Bucha? Fact is, russia attacked Ukraine in february -22. Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:44 utc | 172 Dear Barflies, as so. o. posting rarely but reading rather continiously I beg you: Don´t feed the nafo trolls. They´re not worth any second of your precious lifetime and will disappear earlier when not getting reactions. Posted by: Blue Angel | Aug 8 2024 21:44 utc | 173 5. And most importantly. Russia has no more restraining motives to destroy the aggressor using all available forces and means . Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 21:46 utc | 174 https://t.me/rybar_in_english/16818
Posted by: ? | Aug 8 2024 21:51 utc | 175 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:37 utc | 168 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:51 utc | 176 @Membrum Virile Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 21:52 utc | 177 Wait, what? Ukr. troops changing into Russian uniforms for sabotage ? I guess that seals the Battle of The Bulge analogy. Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 21:53 utc | 178 Forbes reports the 80th Ukr. brigade joins the invasion and that a Ukr brigade is 2000. Adding that to the reported numbers, there could be 24,000 invading with at least some heavy armor. Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 8 2024 21:54 utc | 179 Oliver Krug | Aug 8 2024 20:45 utc | 136 Posted by: Cynic | Aug 8 2024 21:54 utc | 180 https://t.me/rybar_in_english/16819
Posted by: ? | Aug 8 2024 21:54 utc | 181 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:51 utc | 176 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 21:55 utc | 182 @Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39 It could very well be that the incursion is a ploy to goad the RF into using Nukes. Frankly speaking, maybe the time has come. And if anybody crawls glowing from under the charred rubble, nuke’em again. Only then will the rest of the world respect the might of mother Russia. (at least a decapitation strike on Kyiv, please) Posted by: Stierlitz | Aug 8 2024 21:58 utc | 184 The situation has become so bad that I think the fate of the current Russian leadership and direction will be decided in the coming week. Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:59 utc | 185 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:36 utc | 166 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 186 https://t.me/Eurekapress/29233
Posted by: ? | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 187 Posted by: Blue Angel | Aug 8 2024 21:44 utc | 173 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 188 Posted by: Cynic | Aug 8 2024 21:43 utc | 171 Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 189 Russia needs a full mobilization. This is a war. Stop pretending it isn’t. Bomb the Romanian airfields the Nazis operate from. Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 22:01 utc | 190 (Sorry, guess I’m getting a little too emotional. Nevertheless…) Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 22:05 utc | 191 Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:29 utc | 160 Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 22:05 utc | 192 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 186 Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 22:09 utc | 193 Does anyone else subscribe to this Russian guy’s Substack? Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2024 22:11 utc | 194 Random theory: this whole Kursk escapade came about because someone heard that Ukraine’s national gold reserves might be held there… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 22:11 utc | 195 Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 22:01 utc | 190 Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 22:11 utc | 196 Naive | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 189 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 22:12 utc | 197 It was well played by Kiev, though probably overstated in terms of actual territory controlled. Reinforcing it will be far more difficult than taking whatever they took. But most importantly it doesn’t change the big picture unless Kiev can manage to capture a fairly large amount of territory and hold it. Posted by: Lex | Aug 8 2024 22:12 utc | 198
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Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 22:12 utc | 199 Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 21:35 utc | 165 Posted by: anonymous | Aug 8 2024 22:13 utc | 200 |
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