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August 8, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-188

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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I have postulated before, that the slow-moving attrition tactics are effective, but the very real danger of continuing with this tactic here and now, is that the forces of Mordor, unharrassed therefore undeterred, grow and prepare by the day, scaling up weapons manufacturing, revising strategery (ode to GW Bush-critter) based on new battlefield realities / limitations.
Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 19:23 utc | 97
Yep, the US is always plotting and preparing something, and it is always a surprise for Russia and for us following the situation. I guess Russia didn’t have enough drones or intelligence of that area, or it kept fooling itself that the Ukrainian troops were for defense and not offense…
Meanwhile, now Russia drones are watching Ukrainians loot houses
“Our drone filmed the looters of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, who enter every room of private houses in the village of Goncharovka and take everything in a row.”
@NeoficialniyBeZsonoV

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 8 2024 19:35 utc | 101

Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 8 2024 19:35 utc | 101
But did they take the washing machines?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 19:37 utc | 102

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 19:37 utc | 102
The way the US is sanctioning itself out of chips, the washing machines probably have a lot of recycling value now 🙂

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 19:43 utc | 103

Zero hedge is now reporting that the US is giving 3.9bln USD in direct economic aid. Putatively for civil servant wages this will most likely go to bond payments to avoid full default.
In effect the US taxpayer is bailing out banks again. Tally ho! May Ukraine see the light of January so the defeat can be pinned on a new president!

Posted by: SOS | Aug 8 2024 19:46 utc | 104

– In Bolshaya Soldatovka, the enemy faced resistance.
– Fighting has started in the Sudzha area.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 18:45 utc | 91
Please explain…
Bolshaya Soldatovka is 20 kms north of Sudzha on the R200.
Do you mean AFU forces ignored Sudzha, went 20 kms north, were beat and returned south to try to take Sudzha?

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 19:49 utc | 105

It is amazing that Russians cannot even bring reinforcements fast enough.
Why is it so? Not enough soldiers?

Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:50 utc | 106

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 18:08 utc | 79
Sometimes doing nothing is worse, if he’d gone too early though, or too late then the consequences would have been far worse for Russia. A soldiers ultimate responsibility is to die for his country, hence the contracts of unlimited liability they sign, as part of their service agreement, therefore their deployment should never be delayed for fear of losing them.
As for tank platforms, I think Russia is fielding machines that are superior in practically every aspect to the ones they had pre-SMO. As for numbers left stop watching Covert Cabal and other sites that just regurgitate open-sources or rumours, Russia never throws away anything. Whilst travelling towards Moscow, in IIRC the late Seventies (lots of prep for the Mockba Games) I drove on an elevated piece of roadway that allowed me to see the armour stored outside their sheds, there were row upon row of T-34 85’s!
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 18:41 utc | 90
If that was the aim they need their head examining, possibly it was a spoiling attack because they feared a Russian build up was about to become a multi-axes offensive. The wheeled APC’s would then make sense, using speed as a shield they could rapidly advance to attack vulnerable rear-area targets.

Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 19:52 utc | 107

Dima says that Ukraine managed to expand the area they control much further.
This is all consequence of nuclear power afraid to use their nuclear weapons.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:56 utc | 108

Wait, what? Ukr. troops changing into Russian uniforms for sabotage ? I guess that seals the Battle of The Bulge analogy.
Nazis doing nazi stuff. Hope they get caught and put in front of a firing squad
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 8 2024 19:33 utc | 100
Depends, but in most cases they’ll, at least, lose the POW status (if they’re mercs they’d already be out of that protection so…)
https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule62

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 19:57 utc | 109

Milites | Aug 8 2024 19:52 utc | 107
I suspect we will see more stuff emanating from the US and UK in the coming months that don’t make much sense.
he incursion into Kursk is a desperation stunt, but in reading the two Ukie channels the last year or two, a big part of US/UK strategy is as much attempted psyops against the Russians as anything else.
They still have this idea about the Russian people rising up in anger and ousting Putin. And so with this, we see the photo ops at town signs hoping war ‘mappers’ will mark it on the maps as Ukie taken and held territory.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 110

Remarque : j’espère que l’avancée de l’Ukraine sera stoppée le plus tôt possible. Votre Emporeur soutient un cessez-le-feu immédiat.
The Ukrainian offensive is a brilliant move tactically, strategically, and geopolitically. Think Vietnam … this is the Tet Offensive! And back then, as today, the bar flies hovering around General Westmorland were stuttering the same excuses:
“Muh … this is strategically illogical. Muh … suicide mission. Muh … Charlie is desperate. Muh … we will wipe out any gains. Muh … the enemy is suffering staggering losses. Muh … attrition! Muh … DeCommiefication.”
This is the Tet offense. Putin is reeling. Actually, it is a super-Tet, since Charlie didn’t invade Texas. The Russian people’s long humiliation of being bombed will soon bubble to the surface. Is there a Walter Cronkite in Russia bold enough to say the SMO is unwinnable?
How embarrassing. I keep repeating myself. And if the UAF can dig in and bring this hellish World War I front into Russia, it will be a great coup. It is refreshing seeing the offensive minds of the US and UK use modern tactics, rather than the unending fight for castles the medieval Russian generals engage in. Chasif Yar!
I don’t want to gloat. I came here as a compassionate emperor, First Citizen, to drink with you barflies. The truth is never nice. I wanted to ease the Russia fans into the simple truth that the SMO is an epic failure. Reality, such as this Slavic Tet Offensive, is much less kind.
Never fear, this new front will eventually lock. If you are a Putin fan, hope that this happens behind the Russian border, anything else would be laughable and very 404.

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 111

Posted by: Englishman | Aug 8 2024 14:51 utc | 15
I wish the Russians would stop messing about otherwise this will last as long as WW2 they should turn Kiev into Gaza and hit some NATO assets, i have always supported Putin but this is costing more lives, after 2.5 years the front lines have not moved much, now the Nazis are terrorizing civilians in Kursk.
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Englishman, agreed. Good comment.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 112

I find it really encouraging that someone like Medvedev doesnt realise that the enemy gets a vote. It will, and already has, blow up on their faces spectacularly.
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 17:25 utc | 61
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You must be specific when you say the “enemy.” Are you referring to the Kiev regime, Nato, or the US specifically? Zelensky has already conceded Kiev’s authority to the US, the UK, and most importantly the Nazis in the Ukrainian Armed Forces. All who now may have a vote, but not the remaining 20 million civilians who remain in Ukraine: The US, the UK, and Nato have no moral, or right, to vote on anything concerning Ukraine, they are just interlopers selling military weapons and equipment for the MIC.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 20:02 utc | 113

Napoleon | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 111
the 1970s called, they want their embassy rooftop helicopter evacuations back…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 20:07 utc | 114

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 19:23 utc | 97
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 19:32 utc | 99
One of the snags with this is that the forces of Mordor keep closing down strategically useful sites like ammo factories and steelworks, at least here in Britain.
Not to mention the lack of skilled workers, competitively priced and easily available energy supplies and raw materials, or the sheer inability of the managerial classes to look further than the next quarterly bonus.
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Thanks Jeremy. I did not mean to imply that the Russians should target decent hard-working English folk, whom I assume want nothing to with trying to exterminate Russians. More ruthless in condideration of response yes, but not evil.

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnassigh | Aug 8 2024 20:08 utc | 115

I almost want to sympathize with the pro-RU ultranationalists in these trying times. They’ve spent their entire lives being told that Russia is the second army of the world, and they just watched a small country of farmers with mothballed NATO equipment launch an offensive into their territories after holding a stalemate for three years.
I’m trying to imagine how Americans would react if three years into Iraq invasion, Saddam Hussein was still in control and Iraqi forces had landed in Florida and couldn’t be repelled. Maybe they’d make some incoherent comments about how this is all fine because at least Iraqis hadn’t made it to the White House yet.

Posted by: Thetoppassenger | Aug 8 2024 20:09 utc | 116

Thetoppassenger | Aug 8 2024 20:09 utc | 116
The trolls are clowns. I guess these threads will be swamped with the likes of you until these two mighty Nato offensives are nothing more than maggot eaten corpses.
May as well cheer your nato dog meat on while they still have a pulse.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:14 utc | 117

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 19:37 utc | 102
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 8 2024 19:35 utc | 101
But did they take the washing machines?
LOL! Thankfully they can’t take my washing machine, because I have a few loads of laundry to do today and thatcwould be a serious inconvenience : )

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 20:14 utc | 118

Posted by: Thetoppassenger | Aug 8 2024 20:09 utc | 116
“A small country of farmers”; hmmm, I must have missed Russia invading Guernsey, could you kindly update me please?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 20:18 utc | 119

Ermak explained Ukranian demands:
– 1991 borders
– reparations
– all-for-all prisoner exchange
– trials for Russians
– security guarantees
– a new security architecture in Europe

Source

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 20:18 utc | 120

Milites
What stuns me a bit are the amount of low intelligence types that are willing to die in a futile fight. Several reports of the forces in Kursk being Polish and I think English speakers.
Its like they are some sort of religious extremists.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:19 utc | 121

The great Kiev Offensive 2.0
Remember the last one? It got as far as rabotne and then failed. In this new offensive, as the ukes move further into Russia the supply lines become more and more vulnerable. Eventually a Russian pincer will develop and the forward forces of the Ukes will be trapped.
Sorry Mr Top Passenger…..that’s the way this is going. So enjoy your little moment of false triumph while you can!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 20:23 utc | 122

Thetoppassenger | Aug 8 2024 20:09 utc | 116
“The trolls are clowns.” Don’t mind my typos. That was supposed read – You trolls are clowns.
Thought I had better fix that as you idiots are obviously low on intelligence.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 123

Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnassigh | Aug 8 2024 20:08 utc | 115
Yeah, I was just commenting on the practicalities of a major mobilisation effort by the forces of Mordor, at least the British division. It’s not happening, and as far as I can see, it isn’t going to happen. If anything, those in charge are actually working against such an effort, whether they realise it or not.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 124

Ukraine is ALL IN. This is everything they have in Kursk. Everything.
The Pokrovsk front is literally void of any sort of fire support on AFU side.
If RUAF stabilizes this, they have won.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 125

Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:50 utc | 106
Did you enjoy beating your wife?
It’s the same sort of question.

Posted by: anonymoud | Aug 8 2024 20:26 utc | 126

Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39
Amazing that Operation Barbarossa, the Charge of the Light Brigade, and the British willful slaughter of the Canadians at Dieppe made not one scintilla difference to the outcome of the war.
There is only one outcome here. Russia wins, Ukraine loses. Ukraine picked a bunch of wannabee Princes and Princess as their partners. A fatal, strategic mistake.

Posted by: kupkee | Aug 8 2024 20:34 utc | 127

unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 125
That is interesting. I would be very wary though there is still another force for the attack to the south. We have seen this happen a couple of times already.
Though this time, nato is scraping the bottom of the barrel for cannon fodder.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:34 utc | 128

Ermak explained Ukranian demands:
– 1991 borders
– reparations
– all-for-all prisoner exchange
– trials for Russians
– security guarantees
– a new security architecture in Europe
Source
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 20:18 utc | 120
You forgot a blowjob and a nice fat line of colombian’s best 😀
There is a full special military grouping created at the end of 2023, it is located at the border of the Voronezh-Kursk-Belgorod regions, less than 200kms from Lgov (train available)nominally at 90-120 thousand bayonets. Then still train to Korenovo, drive down to Gordeevka and wedge to straighten the border by yablunivka. Add thyme and FAB’s to the cauldron and let it stew…

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 20:35 utc | 129

Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:50 utc | 106
Did you enjoy beating your wife?
It’s the same sort of question.
Posted by: anonymoud | Aug 8 2024 20:26 utc | 126
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The only thing vargas ever beats is him/her/itself. He/she/it is a masterbeater.

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 8 2024 20:35 utc | 130

Ukraine is ALL IN. This is everything they have in Kursk. Everything.
The Pokrovsk front is literally void of any sort of fire support on AFU side.
If RUAF stabilizes this, they have won.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 125
So october/november it is. They could have held to february without the clown act but…

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 20:37 utc | 131

Ukraine is ALL IN. This is everything they have in Kursk. Everything.
The Pokrovsk front is literally void of any sort of fire support on AFU side.
If RUAF stabilizes this, they have won.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:25 utc | 125

1) There’s no proof that Ukraine put everything they have into this Kursk assault.
2) RUAF can’t even get enough soldiers to the area to repel the invasion in a timely manner.
NATO must be laughing its ass off at this fiasco.

Posted by: bored | Aug 8 2024 20:38 utc | 132

It’s a 1,300 mile front-no country can plug very hole. This is a de minimus attack and I agree with b yjat in 2 or three days it will be over.
You guys are way off base.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 8 2024 7:56 utc | 267
Continuing from last thread, the main point of mine was that Bernhard explicitly said he had no doubt they’d be kicked out of the country in a day or two. Are they out? Do they show signs of getting out within the next day?
And that was the mentality I was commenting on, not on whether Russia could defeat Nazi Ukraine.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 20:41 utc | 133

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:34 utc | 128
They may also have another group in Glukhove, but that’s it. One might suspect AFU will launch that group some time after the first group.
Russian ISR should really be able to determine where the groupings are, then they wouldn’t need so much guessing games and it would save from lot of trouble. US satellites were used to locate the weak spots on the border.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:42 utc | 134

Ermak explained Ukranian demands:
– 1991 borders

the fixation on those 1991 borders (without the people in it of course, as “ukrainians” dont want the ukrainians that live there, go figure) is the main us/uk demand, not “ukraines”.
ermak only proves that he is a good little lapdog. a nazi lapdog, but a lapdog nonetheless.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 20:43 utc | 135

Die letzte Chance für den israelischen Kriegstreiber Blinken und seine Demokratenfreunde Russland zu vernichten. Anscheinend hat er diese Provokation befohlen, weil er darauf setzt, daß die Russen taktische Kernwaffen einsetzten, wenn es ihnen zu heiß wird, und dann könnten die F-16 der Ukrainer auch Kernwaffen gegen Russland einsetzten. Aber das wird wohl nichts, oder falls doch, würde Polen, die Balten und ein paar weitere Freunde für längere Zeit keine Waffen mehr in den USA kaufen können – und das will ja nun wirklich niemand.
The last chance for the Israeli warmonger Blinken and his fellow Democrats to destroy Russia. Apparently he ordered this provocation because he is counting on the Russians using tactical nuclear weapons when things get too hot for them, and then the Ukrainian F-16s could also use nuclear weapons against Russia. But that will probably not happen, or if it does happen, Poland, the Baltic states and a few other friends would not be able to buy weapons from the USA for a long time – and nobody really wants that.

Posted by: Oliver Krug | Aug 8 2024 20:45 utc | 136

NATO must be laughing its ass off at this fiasco.
Posted by: bored | Aug 8 2024 20:38 utc | 132

judging by the french and polish speaking idiots that were driven back via ambulance, and the constant flight of planes from poland to germanies hospitals over the course of their little misadventure, i am not sure that nato is laughing its ass off at their fiasco.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 20:45 utc | 137

Boy, howdy, the trolls certainly are out in force.

Posted by: Hunsdon | Aug 8 2024 20:48 utc | 138

Re: NATO, remember this military “power” couldn’t pacify illiterate goat herders in Afghanistan after 20 years.
Reminds me of the US Navy getting owned by the Houthis. Again, illiterate goat herders.
Maybe Russia’s problem is that they are too educated and need to switch to sandals to defeat this “AWESOME” Western military. /s

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 20:50 utc | 139

1) There’s no proof that Ukraine put everything they have into this Kursk assault.
2) RUAF can’t even get enough soldiers to the area to repel the invasion in a timely manner.
NATO must be laughing its ass off at this fiasco.
Posted by: bored | Aug 8 2024 20:38 utc | 132

Of course, there’s no ‘direct’ evidence. You have plenty of secondary/indirect evidence that no more reinforcements or fire support means to Donbass, RUAF is making more unimpeded gains and everything from Belarus border was transferred next to Kursk.
Rezident or Legitimnyi reported these forces are everything Ukraine has managed to scrape together over the last 12 months.
But as always, ISR would take out the guess work of things.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 20:53 utc | 140

Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39
You have some point but this isn’t 2022, where the Russian forces were actually heavily outnumbered on the LoC and Ukraine was using reservists not press-ganged meat predominantly.
Russian bloggers are excessive in their complaints, it’s the Russian way As for “Skywalker” WTF do I care the deluded ravings of the émigré equivalent of a Banderite?
Honestly this is like Jubal Early’s the Confederate cavalry kicking up dust near Washington DC circa 1865 or John Bell Hood’s quixotic attempt to recapture Tennessee & then invade Kentucky.
It’s a bad use of limited forces by the outnumbered side, when they’re clearly in the shit elsewhere and on the road to losing the war.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 8 2024 20:59 utc | 141

As predicted, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are facing challenges in establishing field warehouses for ammunition and fuel and lubricants. The further away from their own territory, the harder it is for them. Russian reconissance units are consistently discovering and destroying these locations shortly after they are set up.
Supply lines are weakening.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 20:59 utc | 142

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:19 utc | 121
Possibly the same motivator as those who planned this op, a desire to make an impact on the world, instead of slipping away into the annals of historical irrelevance. I’ve talked to many veterans and although they tell stories of horror and hardship many say their only regrets were for the ‘blokes who didn’t make it back’. Listening to them you really feel a sense of personal pride and achievement, guess it’s the paradox at the heart of humanity.
Posted by: bored | Aug 8 2024 20:38 utc | 132
I will bet you a substantial amount of imaginary coins that NATO planners are privately aghast at this move, which is something you do in a planning simulation, just to see if it might work. Russia has air superiority, Russia controls the clock, Russia has reserves nearby, Russia has fire superiority in ALL conventional platforms. Ukraine has drone superiority at a tactical level. Can you guess what the outcome is likely to be?
Just a point about the paradox of mech infantry, they are superior to the leg variety until they loose their APC. Leg infantry spend more time training being infantry, mech infantry spend a lot of time training in infantry armour cooperation. Leg infantry have to carry everything, mech infantry ‘live off their wagons’ meaning a forced dismount leaves them normally short of everything. If they’ve raced ahead to seize KP’s (Key Points) and have lost their mounts then they are in deep trouble. Still Ukraine has the multi-function drone, (now with added AD capability) so game over Russia, you might as well surrender now!

Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 21:00 utc | 143

Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 111
Jeez….slinking away after getting your azz kicked in Borodino, leaving the Grande Armee bleeding, scurrying like a defeated French Mouse, beaten like a punk by the Russians on their home turf, still hasn’t taught the now mongrel nation of France as nothing but a yappy bystander, while Russia slowly chews away foolish Ukraine, eunuched Europe, and Uncle Sam’s rapidly depleting purse.
Shall we call this Ukraine move, Battle of the tiny Bulge?

Posted by: kupkee | Aug 8 2024 21:04 utc | 144

Well, as a lot of you’re guessing, this ukro-nazi attack finally will make a lot of things easier for the Russians, for example the Chinese factor is now neutralised. Elena Panina complements Medvedev here:

Ukraine’s aggression near Kursk – masks off. No longer SVO, but war
The events in the Kursk region, the crossing of the Russian border, the invasion of the Ukrainian Armed Forces into its territory and the full-scale military operation of the enemy’s regular troops allow us to draw the following political conclusions.
1. The period of the Special Military Operation is over. A new Patriotic War has begun. And this dictates completely different approaches not only on the front line, but also in all domestic politics of Russia.
2. The mask of “victim of Russian aggression” has been finally thrown off the Zelensky regime. Now no one should have any doubts that aggression against Russia was prepared before the SVO and was planned immediately after the completion of the rearmament of the Ukrainian Armed Forces by the United States, including the supply of armored vehicles, missiles and fighters. On February 24, 2022, by starting the SVO, Russia postponed this aggression.
3. The high level of organization of the invasion by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the nature of the forces involved, including the best Western weapons, a whole horde of drones, powerful air defense and electronic warfare, the absence of PR campaigns prove that the attack was prepared in Washington, not in Kiev , without tying it to a specific tactical situation on the front line. Neither in terms of time nor in terms of logistics does it have anything to do with the idea of ​​”diverting the resources of the Russian Armed Forces” from other areas of the LBS and was tied to only one factor – the timing of the rearmament of the Ukrainian Armed Forces to Western models. The US plans for the destruction of the Russian state have not changed. Hiding behind the information noise about “Russian aggression”, they were re-arming Ukraine. And as soon as Kiev received the F-16, the invasion near Kursk began.
4. The situation suggests that the invasion of the Kursk region is not a one-off – it may be followed by other ground operations of the Ukrainian Armed Forces on Russian territory . In this regard, it may be worthwhile not to limit ourselves to declaring a state of emergency in the Kursk region, but to consider the possibility of declaring martial law in all border regions of the Russian Federation, with all the corresponding plans and actions, including for the civilian population, in the event of an enemy attack. And in the country as a whole, it is no longer possible to postpone the transfer of the entire control system to a war footing.
5. And most importantly. Russia has no more restraining motives to destroy the aggressor using all available forces and means . The arsenal of which is far from exhausted by the range of weapons already deployed during the SVO. The enemy who sets foot on Russian soil must not simply be stopped and thrown back beyond the state border. He must be destroyed in Sumy and Kharkov, in Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk, in Nikolaev and Odessa…

Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:06 utc | 145

Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 20:02 utc | 113
Naturally I’m talking about anybody defending Ukraine from the invasion by a fascist empire, whose main motivation is glory for its leader with serious psychological issues about his abilities.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:10 utc | 146

Can a drone UAV destroy jet aircraft?
-others may have noticed the tactic of fighters washing out drones with their down draft, and maybe this same tactic was used or threatened against the large surveillance drones over the Black Sea.
-increasingly drones are used to clip other drones mid flight, or knock them down from above;
– this anti drone tactic may give rise to antidrone drones; since already combat requires multiple UAV actions the ubiquitous kamikazes and the surveillance drones, it seems plausible a third category will surface of strictly enemy drone repelling drones.
– should a drone be built exclusively to disable drones, why not manned aircraft as well? These drones would be aircraft hunters, UAV hunting drones, plausibly all aircraft within certain distances will become prey, even the iconic birds of prey fighter jets.
-Drone war is in its infancy.

Posted by: Nothingburgers | Aug 8 2024 21:11 utc | 147

This is a propaganda offensive.
What we are reading is an (auto?) translation of Ukrainian sourced Russian language propaganda aimed at demoralising the Russian population.
Judging by the massive increase in volunteers for the Russian armed forces, it is having exactly the opposite effect to that intended.
Accusations of military stupidity and incompetence are being hurled in the wrong direction.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 8 2024 14:50 utc | 14
Exactly! I could not have said it better.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:11 utc | 148

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:10 utc | 146
ah, you mean biden?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 21:14 utc | 149

“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”
Napoleon Bonaparte

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:14 utc | 150

Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:06 utc | 145
Hmm, isn’t calling the Ukraine operation a war punishable by quick removal to gulag in russia ?
I know putin called it that, but laws of course don’t apply to the dictator. Elena though might not be immune.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:16 utc | 151

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:16 utc | 151
you are correct, laws dont apply to the current only dictator in europe, named zelenskyi.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 21:18 utc | 152

Boy, howdy, the trolls certainly are out in force.
Posted by: Hunsdon | Aug 8 2024 20:48 utc | 138
Of course, they go out when they smell shit to post more shit.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:20 utc | 153

Reality, such as this Slavic Tet Offensive, is much less kind. Never fear, this new front will eventually lock. If you are a Putin fan, hope that this happens behind the Russian border, anything else would be laughable and very 404.
Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 8 2024 20:01 utc | 111
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Cute Napoleon, the “Slavic Tet Offensive.” So, you are comparing the Nazi regime in Ukraine with the anti-Nazi Communist forces fighting the US interloper led by Johnson, and his proxy gang of Catholics poodles, who was hated by most of the Vietnamese people (both North and South).
Well, there are similarities: The US is still the great interloper again, and it is still financing the most rightwing elements in the country again, elements who are traitors to their own people again, just like the ARVN, which was created in 1955 by the US, after the US refused to allow the people of Vietnam to settle their own problems via a UN sanctioned election for reunification scheduled for 1957 (which of course, never happened because the CIA did their own poll and decided that Ho Chi Minh would win in a land slide).
I guess you could say this successful effort to stop the 1957 election was similar to the February 2014 Ukraine Maidan coup conducted by the US State department, and the CIA, to oust an elected president from power in Ukraine in March 2014, just because the US did not like his politics. In both cases, millions of people die when it wasn’t necessary: Again!
You see, western apologists, like the gang of trolls here at MoA, lose site of the big picture; for you and them, history started on February 24, 2022, but the US proxy war in Ukraine started a long time ago.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 21:20 utc | 154

southfront has a nice article up about french dying in droves to russian longrange strikes. no wonder napoleon is so frustrated.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 21:23 utc | 155

The strangest update on the Dima report was: AFU had managed to move 6 Bradleys with infantry to the village of Kromskie Byki, 18km NNW of Malaya Loknya, or 32 km NNW of Sudzha. This would represent the extreme extent of the known penetration so far.
The details are very vague, but it probably isn’t impossible before a front is formed that large gaps exist. They might try to insert sabotage groups to villages far outside LOC to slow down reinforcement and line formation.
We should get more accurate and coherent data, the more days go by.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 21:23 utc | 156

The AFU began engineering the terrain on the so-called “Surovikin line”, building a fortified area there. Most likely, tonight they will attempt to drag engineering equipment further and begin equipping another line, from which it will be more difficult for the AFU to be dislodged.
The combat potential of the AFU grouping is far from exhausted: the introduction of the second and third echelons is expected in the near future. At the same time, the danger to other sections of the Kursk direction is not ruled out.

Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 8 2024 21:25 utc | 157

Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:06 utc | 145
The situation has become so bad that I think the fate of the current Russian leadership and direction will be decided in the coming week.

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 21:28 utc | 158

Barflies, please skip posts by anonymous, napoleon, and vargas.
Why? You write more interesting comments when you reply to other contributors.

Posted by: despondent | Aug 8 2024 21:29 utc | 159

Hmm, isn’t calling the Ukraine operation a war punishable by quick removal to gulag in russia ?
I know putin called it that, but laws of course don’t apply to the dictator. Elena though might not be immune.
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:16 utc | 151
1. The Gulags were shut in 1987.
2. I seem to remember the elections in Russia a few months ago. How is Putin a dictator, therefore?

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:29 utc | 160

I get a bad feeling about this Kursk invasion. It starts to look like an Anwar Sadat headfake.
A situation in which there’s a huge load of BS pounding away at Russia, making them complacent. Next thing you know the Sinai gets crossed and you’re in trouble – from a guy you thought was a loud mouthed idiot.
The reported force is invasion level, with assault superiority numbers against what? Border guards? Brigades might have been reconstituted with the mobilized. 300 APC’s ? Is this real? Dunno.
Did they capture 40 – 50 Russians already? That’s too many too soon and suggests huge local superiority to me.
Can Russia get anybody/anything there in force? Looks to me like this may not be as crazy as it looks and they planned to get to Kursk from the beginning.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 8 2024 21:30 utc | 161

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:16 utc | 151
What is the strong stuff you’re smoking daily? I mean, besides your boyfriend’s dick…

Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:30 utc | 162

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:10 utc | 146
Of all the trolls, you’re the most vile.
Explain how entering kilometres into Russian territory and shooting dead in cold blood an unarmed pregnant Russian woman in front of her husband and son is in any way “defending Ukraine”.
You can’t. Not even a miserable trolling excuse for a human being such as you can in any way justify this murderous war crime.
You must know very well that the “defending Ukraine” narrative is entirely bullshit fed to western populace in order to cover for the disgraceful proxy war that has been promulgated by the the grifting elites of the United States for well over ten years.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:31 utc | 163

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 19:43 utc | 103
More on sanctions…the ‘boomerang effect’ is what they call having to fly the long way round to China from Western Europe, because UK and EU sanctions on Russia mean that UK and EU airlines can no longer use Russian airspace. British Airways has now given up on routes to China.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ykrkv0m5mo
Another mad cap plan, dreamt up by the Russophobia Atlanticist imperialists that has blown up in their own faces.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:34 utc | 164

Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 19:50 utc | 106
Did you enjoy beating your wife?
It’s the same sort of question.
Posted by: anonymoud | Aug 8 2024 20:26 utc | 126
The only thing vargas ever beats is him/her/itself. He/she/it is a masterbeater.
Posted by: Ново З | Aug 8 2024 20:35 utc | 130
Please behave normally. I never insulted anybody here.
This whole situation can in the end be good for Russia as the corrupted officials shall be forced to leave the army. Dima’s conclusion is that it is now a poker game. The one who removes army units from the existing lines of combat loses the game/war.
Why is it forbidden to criticize Russia?
The real friend is the one telling truth.
We should just remove that fake narrative of Saker/Martynov about the almighty Putin.

Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 21:35 utc | 165

The situation has become so bad that I think the fate of the current Russian leadership and direction will be decided in the coming week.
Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 21:28 utc | 158
Oh really? I’m sure Putin is in a far, far stronger position than the little green man, elensky is at present. Of course, comments from the NAFO trolls such as this shows the mask coming off and the intention of the offensive. To destabilise Russia. But time and logistics are not on your side!

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:36 utc | 166

House!!! Troll Bingo….the full set
It seems nothing brings out fascist cheerleaders in a frenzy more than the cold blooded murder of pregnant Russian civilians.
Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 18:31 utc | 85

You forgot Micron.
Btw it is very good news that elite troops are participating rather than waiting hidden behind. Thus they will be destroyed. And it will be easier.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:37 utc | 167

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:31 utc | 163
And how do you defend the atrocities of Bucha? Fact is, russia attacked Ukraine in february -22.
Of course it invaded Crimea in 14 and parts of Luhansk and Donbass too. So indeed it is Ukrainians defending their homeland against necrophiliac invaders.

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:37 utc | 168

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 21:28 utc | 158
##############
Maybe if you do your war simulations on a Risk game board.

Posted by: a stone | Aug 8 2024 21:38 utc | 169

I never insulted anybody here.
Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 21:35 utc | 165
You insult intelligence time and again. You ask stupid questions. You lie constantly. And you want to speak about truth?

Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:41 utc | 170

Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 20:19 utc | 121
*** What stuns me a bit are the amount of low intelligence types that are willing to die in a futile fight. Several reports of the forces in Kursk being Polish and I think English speakers.
Its like they are some sort of religious extremists.***
Maybe them and the Azov types don’t worry too much since they are by now confident of, when captured, being returned (with little or no damage) to their masters in a swap.
Even after they murder as many civilians as they can, and torture POWs.
Perhaps a series of very olden-days executions might alter the rest of them’s thinking.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 8 2024 21:43 utc | 171

And how do you defend the atrocities of Bucha? Fact is, russia attacked Ukraine in february -22.
Of course it invaded Crimea in 14 and parts of Luhansk and Donbass too. So indeed it is Ukrainians defending their homeland against necrophiliac invaders.
Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:37 utc | 168
The “atrocity” in Bucha was committed by the Kracken force of the kiev regime. Those shot were deemed “Russian collaborators” and neatly poisitioned all along the road to make it look like the Russians had executed them whilst leaving the town. It was a convenient PR story at the start of the war to demonise Russia immediately.
As for Ukraine defending its homeland by invading Russia, well, you might want to first of hold a referendum of the people there just was done in Crimea, Luhansk and Donetsk in 14.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:44 utc | 172

Dear Barflies, as so. o. posting rarely but reading rather continiously I beg you: Don´t feed the nafo trolls. They´re not worth any second of your precious lifetime and will disappear earlier when not getting reactions.
Dear B., all the best for the further recreation of your health, weiterhin gute Besserung!

Posted by: Blue Angel | Aug 8 2024 21:44 utc | 173

5. And most importantly. Russia has no more restraining motives to destroy the aggressor using all available forces and means .
Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 21:06 utc | 145
Fine, then let’s see it.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 21:46 utc | 174

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/16818

❗️🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kursk Direction: Deployment of “Fire Brigades” and Hunting for AFU Recon Groups
What is known as of the end of August 8, 2024
By 6 PM, the Russian grouping of troops (forces) began clearing the breakthrough zone and eliminating the consequences. This task is primarily assigned to special forces units, as well as special operations forces groups. In addition, there have already been reports of the deployment of units from the “African Corps” (most likely, detachments from the Krasnodar Territory). The main efforts continue to be concentrated in the Korenevo and Sudzha districts.
Due to the fog of war, lack of objective control personnel, as well as “soldier’s radio”, the situation was only fully clarified by the end of the day: the previous advances of the AFU with the control of certain areas of the territory are explained by the activity of Ukrainian recon groups.
📍Ukrainian recon groups tied down Russian checkpoints in combat and bypassed them, entering as many empty settlements as possible. Due to confusion and control problems, the scale of the enemy’s advance was exaggerated, which played into the hands of sowing panic.
🔻In the Sudzha district, after building up the grouping in Bolshoye Soldatovo, the clearing of the highway began.
▪️Ukrainian formations maintain stable control over Goncharovka and western Sudzha. Footage of looting of houses and removal of stolen goods has appeared online.
▪️In eastern Sudzha, according to fragmentary information, there is a focal presence of territorial defense units and Russian troops. At the same time, the work of AFU recon groups is also noted there, whose task is not to capture and control the administrative center, but to sow panic and achieve a media effect.
▪️In the morning, Ukrainian mobile recon groups bypassed eastern Sudzha and went further along the highway. In the evening, Russian forces engaged a Ukrainian unit in Martynivka, while simultaneously clearing the forest area and surrounding villages.
🔻In the Korenevo district, attempts to occupy the administrative center actually turned into attempts by the AFU to quickly clear the strongholds and capture Korenevo. After repelling them, the main AFU forces dispersed in the area of the breakthrough section.
▪️In Snagost, Russian troops began clearing, trying to push Ukrainian groups out of this area.
▪️Online, footage was recorded of Ukrainian groups in Novoivanovka and Lyubimovka – these are the nearest settlements to Korenevo, which are under the conditional control of the enemy.
📌The AFU began engineering the terrain on the so-called “Surovikin line”, building a fortified area there. Most likely, tonight they will attempt to drag engineering equipment further and begin equipping another line, from which it will be more difficult for the AFU to be dislodged.
The combat potential of the AFU grouping is far from exhausted: the introduction of the second and third echelons is expected in the near future. At the same time, the danger to other sections of the Kursk direction is not ruled out.

Posted by: ? | Aug 8 2024 21:51 utc | 175

Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 21:37 utc | 168
You’re not only vile, you’re an imbecile. Trying to justify a war crime with whataboutery, you bring up a Ukrainian false flag operation that was (as everything else they do) for western media propaganda.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/04/the-bucha-provocation.html
The people killed in Bucha were killed by the Ukrainians days after the Russians had left. What I can recall is the pro Ukrainian espresso TV footage that they fucked up because one of the corpses could be seen getting up before the director yelled “cut”. Clearly you’re stupid enough to believe this and amplify it.
Yourr whataboutery shredded, you still need to explain how entering kilometres into Russian territory and shooting dead in cold blood an unarmed pregnant Russian woman in front of her husband and son is in any way “defending Ukraine”.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:51 utc | 176

@Membrum Virile
Where have you been all this time?
– while Bucha has been debunked
– while Ukraine has defaulted on a major part of its international debt obligations
– while the Ukrainian population stumbles about in the dark, short of fresh dairy and meat products because the electricity supply doesn’t work properly, because the technicians capable of repairing the grid have been press-ganged and sent to die, untrained, on the front line
– while the press-gangs are having their vehicles and homes burnt out because the database of their personnel details wasn’t secured; wholesale doxxing ensued
Where have you been all this time?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 21:52 utc | 177

Wait, what? Ukr. troops changing into Russian uniforms for sabotage ? I guess that seals the Battle of The Bulge analogy.
Nazis doing nazi stuff. Hope they get caught and put in front of a firing squad
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 8 2024 19:33 utc | 100
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Earlier, I read that Russian civilian heard the invaders speaking in French and Polish. This “invasion” force could be entirely composed of foreign mercenaries, with even some Russian traitors as well. The Russians traitors would be the one changing into Russian uniforms, I would suspect.
In this case Russia should take no prisoners, except for interrogations of course. We have about a dozen Trolls here at MoA who should be delighted to join Ukraine’s little “International Mercenary League” (IML). Man, what an opportunity to serve, rather than just bullshit.

Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 21:53 utc | 178

Forbes reports the 80th Ukr. brigade joins the invasion and that a Ukr brigade is 2000. Adding that to the reported numbers, there could be 24,000 invading with at least some heavy armor.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 8 2024 21:54 utc | 179

Oliver Krug | Aug 8 2024 20:45 utc | 136
*** The last chance for the Israeli warmonger Blinken and his fellow Democrats to destroy Russia. Apparently he ordered this provocation because he is counting on the Russians using tactical nuclear weapons when things get too hot for them, and then the Ukrainian F-16s could also use nuclear weapons against Russia. But that will probably not happen, or if it does happen, Poland, the Baltic states and a few other friends would not be able to buy weapons from the USA for a long time – and nobody really wants that.***
Or just bypass the false-flag bullshit and at least nuke Tel Aviv and the City of London.
Unless the covert long-term intention is for the enemy to win, that will have to be done sometime, anyway.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 8 2024 21:54 utc | 180

https://t.me/rybar_in_english/16819

🇷🇺🇺🇦 Chronicles of the special military operation
for August 8, 2024
Over the past day, Russian forces struck enemy targets on the territory of the so-called Ukraine with missiles and kamikaze drones.
In the North Ukrainian direction, reserves of the Russian Armed Forces began arriving by evening. Russian special forces units have already begun clearing the territory, pushing the enemy back towards Sumy.
In the Slobozhansky direction, on the contrary, the Russian Armed Forces broke through the Ukrainian border on the right flank and reported the capture of Sotnitsky Kazachok and Lukashovka.
In the Oleksandrivka-Kalinovo direction, fighting continues in Kirovo and Artemovo, from which Russian assault groups are trying to advance towards the northern outskirts of Novhorodske.
In the Pokrovsk direction, the Russian army advanced westward in the area of Timofeevka, as well as liberated Sergeyevka and is conducting a clearing operation in Zhelannoe.
🔻Detailed analytical report on the events in the Special Military Operation zone is available on our closed channel

Posted by: ? | Aug 8 2024 21:54 utc | 181

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 21:51 utc | 176
A Czech mercenary was already sentenced (in Czech republic, of all places) for the crimes he committed in Bucha.

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 21:55 utc | 182

@Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39
Usual concern troll crap. The first phase of the SMO, when Russia was severely undermanned, has nothing to do with this phase of the war when Russia now significantly overmatches the Ukrainians while using tactics designed to keep Ukrainian losses to a maximum and Russian losses to a minimum in a war substantially changed by drones. Russia has now worked its way through approx. 1 million of the Ukrainian military while completely destroying the masses of equipment Ukraine started with, plus two Western replenishments worth. No further major replenishments are on their way. The Ukrainian army has been reduced largely to an infantry force reliant on “technicals” and civilian cars and with a rapidly diminishing artillery presence and hardly any air presence.
Russia is winning, rather than whining, while its losses are held to a minimum and the Russian economy grows faster than Western ones. And Germany de-industrializes.

Posted by: Roger | Aug 8 2024 21:56 utc | 183

It could very well be that the incursion is a ploy to goad the RF into using Nukes. Frankly speaking, maybe the time has come. And if anybody crawls glowing from under the charred rubble, nuke’em again. Only then will the rest of the world respect the might of mother Russia. (at least a decapitation strike on Kyiv, please)

Posted by: Stierlitz | Aug 8 2024 21:58 utc | 184

The situation has become so bad that I think the fate of the current Russian leadership and direction will be decided in the coming week.
Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 21:28 utc | 158

Let’s wait – say – until 2024-08-18. Then I am sure I will write a comment about your prediction.
Btw the situation is excellent. Some of the best ukronazi brigades are about to be destroyed. An offensive without air support is a suicide mission. Aka a meat grinder. Only today 660 ukronazis liquidated. At least one Norwegian among them.
Remember Krinky?!

Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 21:59 utc | 185

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:36 utc | 166
Of course that is the intention of this offensive: to destabilize Russia. To show that they are vulnerable. That they can be defeated. That their army is incompetent. That after two years of conflict, partial mobilization and god knows how many lives on both sides, Russian villages and towns are starting to get occupied and turned into Ukrainian strongholds.
And probably civilians held hostage to be used as leverage and for propaganda.
This is nothing unexpected in war. That is how it is. You cant prevail in this war (with NATO) unless you suffer and manage to mobilize your people around some purpose.
This is a new phase in the war starting now, if of course the current leadership doesn’t het couped.

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 186

https://t.me/Eurekapress/29233

🇷🇺 Kursk region
A group of special forces Aida arrived (https://t.me/iamsniper/6187) in the Sudzhi area and entered the battle.
@voenkorKotenok reports that a van with enemy troops was destroyed by a direct hit.
Special forces are operating in the regional center, entering from different directions, which took the enemy by surprise.
And the information from елорусского силовика is confirmed (https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/38851).
💀 Wagner Ratibor is also active in the Sudzha area.
✨ In general, our units have entered into combat with the enemy. Now combat work is being carried out not only from the sky, but also by local conscript units, border guards and defence units.
The first reserves have arrived and have reached the outskirts of the enemy bridgehead from the Sudzha side. Heavy fighting is ahead.
@two_majors

Posted by: ? | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 187

Posted by: Blue Angel | Aug 8 2024 21:44 utc | 173
My apologies. Yes, you’re correct.
And yes, best wishes to b for your continued recovery.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 188

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 8 2024 21:43 utc | 171
One report says that French too was heard.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 189

Russia needs a full mobilization. This is a war. Stop pretending it isn’t. Bomb the Romanian airfields the Nazis operate from.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 22:01 utc | 190

(Sorry, guess I’m getting a little too emotional. Nevertheless…)

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 22:05 utc | 191

Posted by: HERMIUS | Aug 8 2024 21:29 utc | 160
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HERMIUS, the damn fool @151 doesn’t even realize that all Western liberal democracies are in fact Dictatorships by a minority wealthy ruling class. (Ed)
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Barflies, please skip posts by anonymous, napoleon, and vargas.
Why? You write more interesting comments when you reply to other contributors.
Posted by: despondent | Aug 8 2024 21:29 utc | 159
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despondent, have a drink on me, maybe tomorrow you won’t be depressed; or should I say despondent?

Posted by: Ed | Aug 8 2024 22:05 utc | 192

Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 186
Do you think that Russia is destabilized?
Do you think that Russia is vulnerable? How?
Do you think that Russia can be defeated?
Do you think that RUAF is incompetent?
Do you think that Russian villages can be turned into urkonazis strongholds?
Do you think that holding civilians as hostages is a war crime?
Which new phase in the war is starting now?
Btw several ukronazis generals and staff were destroyed near Kharkov in the night 6-7 August. So yes the leadershipt was “couped”, but not the one you expected.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 22:09 utc | 193

Does anyone else subscribe to this Russian guy’s Substack?
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/zelenskys-doomed-rat-tactics-the?
He gives front-line updates on a daily, sometimes twice daily basis, in near real-time. From the Russian military perspective.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2024 22:11 utc | 194

Random theory: this whole Kursk escapade came about because someone heard that Ukraine’s national gold reserves might be held there…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 22:11 utc | 195

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 8 2024 22:01 utc | 190
What a stupid comment. Russia does not need it. There are enough volunteers.
It is amazing how people are reacting emotionally, dropping any rational thinking.
I see that you are advocating to start WW3.

Posted by: Naive | Aug 8 2024 22:11 utc | 196

Naive | Aug 8 2024 22:00 utc | 189
Yep. French and polish. I read it a few times from different points. I think I might have put British voices in an earlier comment but that was wrong.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 22:12 utc | 197

It was well played by Kiev, though probably overstated in terms of actual territory controlled. Reinforcing it will be far more difficult than taking whatever they took. But most importantly it doesn’t change the big picture unless Kiev can manage to capture a fairly large amount of territory and hold it.
Since it can’t hold the territory it currently controls I doubt it can hold a significant amount of Russian territory. However, Russia can’t let it be won back in negotiations or even months from now.
It was probably a very poor use of resources by Kiev that will not require so much Russian resource that it affects other active areas of the front.

Posted by: Lex | Aug 8 2024 22:12 utc | 198

Russian troops have begun clearing the breakthrough zone and eliminating AFU DRGs. This task is entrusted primarily to special forces units.

Source

‼️🇷🇺🔥Russian Army Defeats Ukrainian Armed Forces Column That Broke Through Kursk Region
▪️The enemy was moving in the Malaya Loknya area – this is approximately 15-20 km from the border.
▪️The equipment stopped, where it was overtaken. The vehicles were destroyed by Ka-52M helicopters, and the infantry in the forest was finished off by artillery.

SOURCE with video

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 22:12 utc | 199

Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 21:35 utc | 165
Your phrasing of an assertion as a question without any supporting links or information is purely rhetorical. You contributed nothing to the conversation. If ridicule bothers you try not to be ridiculous. If you don’t like being insulted don’t insult us with your sophistry.

Posted by: anonymous | Aug 8 2024 22:13 utc | 200