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August 8, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-188
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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/cheep Posted by: titmouse | Aug 8 2024 13:16 utc | 1
https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1821510667154682003
https://x.com/MihajlovicMike/status/1821537032658640903 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 13:33 utc | 2 It looks like the first russian move on feb 22. Speed toward defined targets. The key word here is “look”. Posted by: Bald | Aug 8 2024 13:42 utc | 3 Kursk Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 8 2024 13:50 utc | 4 USA soldiers lost in this war: 0. Posted by: Uncle Sam | Aug 8 2024 13:59 utc | 5 I may well be barking up the wrong tree but Posted by: FakeBelieve | Aug 8 2024 14:03 utc | 6 @ Neofeudalfuture | Aug 8 2024 13:50 utc | 4 Posted by: boneless | Aug 8 2024 14:09 utc | 7
https://t.me/rezident_ua/23808 Posted by: Down South | Aug 8 2024 14:14 utc | 8 unimperator @ 2 Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 8 2024 14:23 utc | 9 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 13:33 utc | 2 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 8 2024 14:27 utc | 10 Quite a few Russian drone surveillance videos showing initial breakthroughs and UA vehicles / forces operating but no strikes. One showing an FPV attempt on a recovery team but it missed by a few meters and the Ukrainian forces seemed unaffected. Strategy seems to include EW takedown of RF surveillance and FPV drones with only high altitude winged drones remaining operable.
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 8 2024 14:33 utc | 11 @7 boneless Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Aug 8 2024 14:41 utc | 12 Posted by: Uncle Sam | Aug 8 2024 13:59 utc | 5
Posted by: Boo | Aug 8 2024 14:44 utc | 13 This is a propaganda offensive. Posted by: CitizenSmith | Aug 8 2024 14:50 utc | 14 I wish the Russians would stop messing about otherwise this will last as long as WW2 they should turn Kiev into Gaza and hit some NATO assets, i have always supported Putin but this is costing more lives, after 2.5 years the front lines have not moved much, now the Nazis are terrorizing civilians in Kursk. Posted by: Englishman | Aug 8 2024 14:51 utc | 15 The main purpose is terrorizing civilians and ‘weaken Putin’. Handwriting of British/EU terrorists.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 15:01 utc | 16 Purpose of the attack on Kursk is to try and goad the Russians to overreact and possibly to negatively affect the Russian Civilian morale. I honestly believe the US/EU/NATO ghouls really want Russia to use a nuclear weapon. Russia can counter by going to a hard defense of Kursk, fix the Ukraine forces and attrit them with air assets and long-range fires while the conscript units that have been serving in Russia can be maneuvered to surround the salient into Kursk. Then the Ukrainian forces will be forced to withdraw, surrender or die. Posted by: Matt | Aug 8 2024 15:10 utc | 17 The best defense is often a strategic offense, imagine the majority of the Ukrainian army infiltrating Russia through Kursk and concentrating around one of its major regional cities and unleashing a fight to the death around it. Do not tell me that would not impress the world insofar as it would be quite memorable, no? Posted by: Ludovic | Aug 8 2024 15:13 utc | 18 Posted by: Ludovic | Aug 8 2024 15:13 utc | 18 Posted by: ctiger | Aug 8 2024 15:26 utc | 19 Posted by: Ludovic | Aug 8 2024 15:13 utc | 18 Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 15:33 utc | 20 A subjective account of the circumstances leading up to the Kursk attack. I won’t post the whole thing, auto-translate reads fine.
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 8 2024 15:34 utc | 21 Posted by: Ludovic | Aug 8 2024 15:13 utc | 18 Posted by: Mario | Aug 8 2024 15:40 utc | 22 lots of gnashing of teeth in the comments section, lol… Posted by: james | Aug 8 2024 15:53 utc | 23 Posted by: Mario | Aug 8 2024 15:40 utc | 22 Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 15:54 utc | 24 Zelensky has allegedly (extremely dystopian if true) sold 70% of all Ukrainian farmland to BlackRock, Monsanto, Vanguard. Posted by: Rune Denmark | Aug 8 2024 15:56 utc | 25 War brtween Iran and Israel would be very good for Russia, as USA would have to arm Israel and not Ukraine? but Putin is puting preasure on Iran not to retaliate. Posted by: vargas | Aug 8 2024 16:01 utc | 26 anon2020 @ Aug 8 2024 14:33 utc | 11 Posted by: SOS | Aug 8 2024 16:03 utc | 27 Telegram Slavyangrad rather muted about the Kursk offensive. Web site I look at on Rumble all too much hand wringing and nail biting. Posted by: paxmark1 | Aug 8 2024 16:08 utc | 28 Somebody messed up. The Ukes should have been spotted prior to the attack. Civilians should have been evacuated. Yes the Ukes are going to get slaughtered. Yes they accomplished nothing. But the fact is, somebody messed up. Disciplinary hearing is overdue. Someone needs to get spanked by Putin. Posted by: Leroy | Aug 8 2024 16:09 utc | 29 The Aussie Cossack telegram channel has several post about this Kursk adventure (aka an invasion of Russia by NATO backed armed forces) allowing Russia greater freedom to act militarily in Ukraine. Posted by: Richie from Boston | Aug 8 2024 16:10 utc | 30 Alexander Mikhailov doesn’t seem worry. In fact it’s a trap and the ukies won’t know what hit them when it does. Posted by: AI | Aug 8 2024 16:11 utc | 31 AI do not normally add on a second comment quickly, but Posted by: paxmark1 | Aug 8 2024 16:18 utc | 32 Posted by: SOS | Aug 8 2024 16:03 utc | 27 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 16:22 utc | 33 Has anyone else noticed that the Ukrops have just formed a cauldron around themselves, a firebag for themselves. Whenever the full Russian defence arrives they can close the bag at the border. It’s only about 5kms across. Not one Ukie invader still in Russia will ever get back home. End result, a few hundred Russian deaths, many many thousands of AFU deaths. Just another attrition misadventure. Posted by: James IV | Aug 8 2024 16:22 utc | 34 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Aug 8 2024 14:27 utc | 10 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 16:22 utc | 35 Has anyone else noticed that the Ukrops have just formed a cauldron around themselves, a firebag for themselves. Whenever the full Russian defence arrives they can close the bag at the border. It’s only about 5kms across. Not one Ukie invader still in Russia will ever get back home. End result, a few hundred Russian deaths, many many thousands of AFU deaths. Just another attrition misadventure. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 16:29 utc | 36 This Ukie “offensive” is a sad sideshow which will just lead to more Ukrainian deaths while the Russians will not be goaded into over-reacting nor taking their focus off the Donbass. Sasha Kots has reported from the front line (anything to get past these comments from small-minded doomers and NAFO provocateurs). Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 16:31 utc | 38 The lack of self-awareness on this blog is stunning. Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39 Seems there is a decent chance the command/planning team of Sudzha attack were destroyed.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 40
quality german commentary. the kursk misadventure will fail, BUUUUUUUUT muh putin propaganda. Posted by: Justpassinby | Aug 8 2024 16:43 utc | 41 By the way, whatever happened to this famous red line about Ukraine never attacking Russia proper ? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 16:43 utc | 42 Sasha Kots has reported from the front line (anything to get past these comments from small-minded doomers and NAFO provocateurs). Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 16:45 utc | 43 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 8 2024 13:33 utc | 2 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 16:50 utc | 44 It seems to me that the Ukranian army is serious about capturing and holding territory, that being the only way they stand a chance of getting the land they want back in any sort of peace deal. At this point the Russians have proven themselves capable of screwing things up in any way possible so I am skeptical this won’t just become another stalemate. Posted by: VeraK | Aug 8 2024 16:54 utc | 46 Posted by: Apollyon | Aug 8 2024 16:52 utc | 45 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 16:59 utc | 47 Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39 “strategic nuclear facility” Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 8 2024 16:59 utc | 48 It is highly disappointing that Russia continues to allow this BS to take place. The longer Ukraine exists, the more chances they have to get lucky. This war should have been over two years ago. Posted by: Gnome Sane | Aug 8 2024 17:00 utc | 49 Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 17:00 utc | 50 Posted by: VeraK | Aug 8 2024 16:54 utc | 46 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 17:02 utc | 51 Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39 “Do you understand the phrase, ‘the enemy gets a vote’?” Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 8 2024 17:04 utc | 52 Posted by: VeraK | Aug 8 2024 16:54 utc | 46 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 17:04 utc | 53 Posted by: Micron | Aug 8 2024 16:34 utc | 39 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 17:06 utc | 54 The equation is as follows: mess with belgorod : lose kharkov. Posted by: Dante | Aug 8 2024 17:07 utc | 55 Uncle Sam. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 8 2024 17:11 utc | 56 ZH has a posting up with the title
Supposedly 10 have been delivered out of a pledged 79….has the first one already been taken out as we saw reported? Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 8 2024 17:13 utc | 57 High risk, high reward operations are normally driven by desperation or conceived by commanders with serious psychological issues about their abilities. I guess the calculus that drove this move was: do we use the reserves to delay the inevitable, or mount an operation that could change the status-quo? In a contest between hope v’s resigned to reality, the former has a good chance of winning out, whatever the odds of success. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 17:13 utc | 58 It’s about time to nuke Washington and London. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 17:21 utc | 59 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 16:50 utc | 44 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 17:21 utc | 60 Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 17:13 utc | 58 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 17:25 utc | 61
Hmm I’ve only ever read that in Western MSM Media. Posted by: MAKK | Aug 8 2024 17:28 utc | 62 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 16:50 utc | 44 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 8 2024 17:31 utc | 63 It’s really simple, two yes or no questions need to be answered correctly to determine what is going on. Posted by: Clown Shoes | Aug 8 2024 17:31 utc | 64 I wish the Russians would stop messing about otherwise this will last as long as WW2 they should turn Kiev into Gaza and hit some NATO assets, i have always supported Putin but this is costing more lives, after 2.5 years the front lines have not moved much, now the Nazis are terrorizing civilians in Kursk. Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 8 2024 17:35 utc | 65 Posted by: MAKK | Aug 8 2024 17:28 utc | 62 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 17:37 utc | 66 Another brutal day for Ukraine, 2110 killed and wounded. You wouldn’t know it from the trolls, but the rest of the SMO is still going on.. In case interested, the daily report from https://t.me/s/ZandVchannel Posted by: ctiger | Aug 8 2024 17:37 utc | 67 The Ukrainians are digging in and also flying helicopters over Russian territory. They are certainly more daring and energetic than Russian soldiers.
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 8 2024 17:38 utc | 68 Posted by: MAKK | Aug 8 2024 17:28 utc | 62 “Hmm I’ve only ever read that in Western MSM Media” Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 8 2024 17:50 utc | 69 thought this was worth passing on, hope it is accurate (from https://t.me/s/ZandVchannel) Posted by: ctiger | Aug 8 2024 17:53 utc | 70 This invasion will stay for a long time. They are not able to pass through ukrainian fortifications, it takes ages. Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 17:54 utc | 71 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 17:21 utc | 60 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 17:54 utc | 72 Ok, as the SMO is more than Kursk Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 17:57 utc | 73 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 17:54 utc | 71 Posted by: Siddhartha | Aug 8 2024 17:57 utc | 74 thought this was worth passing on, hope it is accurate (from https://t.me/s/ZandVchannel) Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 18:00 utc | 75 One thing you can be sure of..the pro NATO anti-intellectuals are belligerent and unimaginative. As the last gasp forces are ground into hamburger still they post their jingoist, maximalist insanity, thundering about how Russia and Putin will pay! Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Aug 8 2024 18:03 utc | 76 So desperation and frustration, but the ability to improvise, adapt, weld the three institutions of state together (military, political, economic) to purse one goal, with a historical aptitude for innovation means it’s the Z man who is desperate. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 18:04 utc | 77 Posted by: Ed4 | Aug 8 2024 17:50 utc | 69 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 18:04 utc | 78 Posted by: Milites | Aug 8 2024 17:54 utc | 72 Posted by: Membrum Virile | Aug 8 2024 18:08 utc | 79 One thing you can be sure of..the pro NATO anti-intellectuals are belligerent and unimaginative. As the last gasp forces are ground into hamburger still they post their jingoist, maximalist insanity, thundering about how Russia and Putin will pay! Posted by: Newbie | Aug 8 2024 18:13 utc | 80 Been out all day so just catching up: have the Ukrainians reached Moscow yet? If not, what’s keeping them? Surely they can manage it in 3 days… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 18:25 utc | 81 Posted by: alek_a | Aug 8 2024 17:54 utc | 71 Posted by: Mario | Aug 8 2024 18:26 utc | 82 Ukraine’s Kursk offensive is indeed pointless and suicidal, but it forces Russia to commit reserves. Maybe it’s just a distraction while another offensive attempts to seize the Zaporozhe Nuclear Power Plant. Posted by: Promptcritical | Aug 8 2024 18:27 utc | 83 Still nothing very clear as to frontlines ect at the Kursk incursion. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 18:27 utc | 84 House!!! Troll Bingo….the full set Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 18:31 utc | 85 Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 8 2024 18:31 utc | 85 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 18:36 utc | 86 So desperation and frustration, but the ability to improvise, adapt, weld the three institutions of state together (military, political, economic) to purse one goal, with a historical aptitude for innovation means it’s the Z man who is desperate. Posted by: LEMMNING1 | Aug 8 2024 18:40 utc | 87 did you hear nato’s (and EU’s) demand that RF “leaves Georgia “?
Posted by: too scents | Aug 8 2024 18:40 utc | 88 Meanwhile, none of this nonsense in Kursk has done anything to improve Ukraine’s international credit rating, which remains dire with some national liabilities in technical default. Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 18:41 utc | 89
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 18:41 utc | 90 Kursk Region (enemy = Ukraine) Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 18:45 utc | 91 Lord Bebo Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 18:48 utc | 92 The range of transmission of combat control commands and decision-making has increased significantly.
Posted by: too scents | Aug 8 2024 19:07 utc | 93 too scents | Aug 8 2024 19:07 utc | 93 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 19:13 utc | 94 too scents | Aug 8 2024 19:07 utc | 93 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 8 2024 19:17 utc | 95 Who is really winning this conflict?
SOURCE Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 8 2024 19:21 utc | 96 Russia needs to take the gloves off. Too much pussy-footing around, sparing the REAL opponent too much. If one’s enemy does not abide by rules of war and will crush you in any way the can, then why should one keep the gentleman’s hat on. There is a time to a Spartan warrior, victory at all costs. Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 19:23 utc | 97 Where’s shadowbanned to give a real assessment and not the phony “Russia is winning” when it is taking net losses of territory.? Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 8 2024 19:32 utc | 98
Posted by: Áobh Ó’Sheachnasaigh | Aug 8 2024 19:23 utc | 97 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 8 2024 19:32 utc | 99 reply to 91 Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 8 2024 19:33 utc | 100 |
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