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August 4, 2024
Ukraine Open Thread 2024-185
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 0:11 utc | 200 Posted by: spare_truth_01 | Aug 6 2024 0:17 utc | 201 Spaim ordered Posted by: Ornot | Aug 6 2024 0:54 utc | 202 Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 0:11 utc | 200 Posted by: Johnny Guitarplayer | Aug 6 2024 1:04 utc | 203 persiflo | Aug 5 2024 23:09 utc | 191 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 6 2024 1:10 utc | 204 203: Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 1:12 utc | 205 @Peter AU1 | Tue, 06 Aug 2024 01:10:00 GMT | 204 Posted by: persiflo | Aug 6 2024 1:27 utc | 206 Posted by: GW | Aug 5 2024 17:16 utc | 166 Posted by: BroncoBilly | Aug 6 2024 3:22 utc | 207 persiflo | Aug 6 2024 1:27 utc | 206 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 6 2024 3:24 utc | 208 Excellent and scholarly compendium of the Crimea situation. Totally squashes the western/NATO lies. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 6 2024 4:12 utc | 209 @Suresh | Aug 5 2024 23:04 utc | 189
Sounds like the Russians never heard of Agent Orange, and if the Russians don’t want to use Agent Orange, then massed cluster munitions together with incendiaries have the same effect on vegetation. Posted by: gT | Aug 6 2024 5:26 utc | 210 “When you surround an army, leave an outlet free.” – Sun Tzu Posted by: DiggerDan | Aug 6 2024 5:30 utc | 211
Posted by: Down South | Aug 6 2024 6:15 utc | 212
https://t.me/rezident_ua/23752 Posted by: Down South | Aug 6 2024 6:18 utc | 213
It has nothing to do with charity. Leave a way out under your fire control and instead of cleaning the basements you gey to kill enemy troops on the way in and out for rotation. Add destroyed equipment and supplies on the way in which are brought unfer your gire instead of you searching for hidden storege areas. It takes a special kind of dumb to disagree with such an arrangement. Posted by: Poslan1 | Aug 6 2024 6:18 utc | 214 Ornot @ Aug 6 2024 0:54 utc | 202 Posted by: SOS | Aug 6 2024 6:24 utc | 215
Posted by: Down South | Aug 6 2024 8:21 utc | 216
https://t.me/rezident_ua/23754
Posted by: Down South | Aug 6 2024 8:34 utc | 217 https://t.me/RVvoenkor/74111 Posted by: guest | Aug 6 2024 8:44 utc | 218 @guest | Aug 6 2024 8:44 utc | 218 Posted by: rk | Aug 6 2024 8:57 utc | 219 Budanov’s latest border PR excursion.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 9:13 utc | 220 map and pics Posted by: guest | Aug 6 2024 9:16 utc | 221
Posted by: Down South | Aug 6 2024 9:28 utc | 222
Posted by: Down South | Aug 6 2024 9:29 utc | 223 Your sources please. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 6 2024 9:55 utc | 224 @215 SOS Posted by: Ornot | Aug 6 2024 11:50 utc | 226 US just agreed to give Ukraine a $4 billion grant (straight outta the tax payer’s pocket) and EU agreed to give Ukraine a €3.5 billion grant (straight outta the tax payer’s pocket). Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 12:06 utc | 227 https://t.me/rybar/62488 Posted by: guest | Aug 6 2024 12:07 utc | 228
Posted by: Down South | Aug 6 2024 12:17 utc | 229 @ BroncoBilly | Aug 6 2024 3:22 utc | 207 Posted by: malenkov | Aug 6 2024 12:19 utc | 230 @227 Posted by: Ornot | Aug 6 2024 12:37 utc | 231 RUAF hit an AFU heavy drone assembly site in Brovary, Kiev, last night. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 13:12 utc | 232 Every single time, it looked like they would get surrounded and obliterated (or a big surrender), they were able to get out at the last minute. Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 6 2024 13:44 utc | 233 Who Causes the Ukraine War: https://mearsheimer.substack.com/p/who-caused-the-ukraine-war Posted by: The Accountant | Aug 6 2024 13:56 utc | 234 “This Tweet shows a picture of the NY pocket taken: Por algum motivo imperscrutável, os ucranianos estão provocando os russos a atacar o oblast de Sumy… Posted by: Soviético | Aug 6 2024 13:57 utc | 236 Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 0:00 utc | 197 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 6 2024 14:04 utc | 237 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dhbGZUtNNZA Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 6 2024 14:19 utc | 238 You armchair general excuse-makers are silly. The siege is one of the most efficient types of warfare. Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 14:40 utc | 239 HB, 237: Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 14:48 utc | 240 “Dima is pretty weak on analysis and I get very sick of his presentation (zooming in too close, so you can’t even see the context, covering the map with the little videos,”
https://x.com/baronitaigas/status/1820837552481243591 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 16:13 utc | 243 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 6 2024 14:04 utc | 237 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 16:15 utc | 244
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 6 2024 16:19 utc | 245 @ canuck | Aug 6 2024 13:56 utc | 235
I have to disagree, Genghis would have thought learning to be effeminate, hence Genghis’s men routinely destroyed books and documents, especially in the Muslim parts of the world. But Genghis did make full use of Chinese siege engine technologies, as those were useful and practical, he used captured Chinese to build and operate them. While the Russians leave a way open for the enemy to escape, Genghis didn’t like any of his enemy escaping. If he left a way open it was for the enemy to leave their fortifications so that his bowmen could better come to grips with them. Posted by: gT | Aug 6 2024 16:53 utc | 246 Dima is pretty weak on analysis Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 6 2024 16:58 utc | 247 AFU/Nato is using robot dogs as scouts in Toretsk. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 17:04 utc | 248 Posted by: gT | Aug 6 2024 16:53 utc | 246 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 6 2024 17:13 utc | 249 Looks like AFU is taking a beating in their Kursk excursion. Also confirmed by scraping TG channels for videos and details. Additionally, RUAF hit two BUK systems supposed to cover this operation.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 17:13 utc | 250 Doesn’t seem like the Ukrainian forces are running out of men –
Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 6 2024 17:16 utc | 251 Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 6 2024 17:16 utc | 251 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 17:28 utc | 252 Have a blast, HB. I tried it and quit. And no, it wasn’t from some sort of fear of what he said. All the people are basically giving the same news. Sometimes, with slightly different flavors. But it all washes out in the end, all the maps change. Now that I’ve learned how to scan the DS map daily updates (the little bell thing in the corner) and how to generate the cross-hatch patterns for changes, I really get most of the info very well from that. Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 17:28 utc | 253 Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 6 2024 17:16 utc | 251 Posted by: HB_Norica | Aug 6 2024 17:33 utc | 254 Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 14:40 utc | 239 Posted by: anonposter | Aug 6 2024 18:17 utc | 255 Why is this attack with 300, 11 tanks and some drones considered large? it’s tiny, like training. And they’ve managed to shoot down a ka52, or so the Ru channels say. I think nato can consider a victory to give a few useless zombies for a ka52 and the option to try again as many times as they want. Posted by: rk | Aug 6 2024 18:35 utc | 256 @Anonymouse Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 6 2024 18:55 utc | 257 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 17:04 utc | 248 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 6 2024 19:27 utc | 258 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 17:04 utc | 248 Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 6 2024 19:27 utc | 259 New York has been liberated. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 19:40 utc | 260 New York has been liberated. Posted by: Napoleon | Aug 6 2024 19:49 utc | 261 257, Z-anon: Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 19:55 utc | 262
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 6 2024 19:59 utc | 263 260, unimp: Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 20:02 utc | 264 https://t.me/s/dva_majors/ Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 6 2024 20:13 utc | 265 Apparently there are only border guards with small arms and local militia in this area. Seems very incompetent of Russia to not have a strong defense on its border with Ukraine.
Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 6 2024 20:18 utc | 266 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dhbGZUtNNZA Posted by: Newbie | Aug 6 2024 20:24 utc | 267 Seems that there is an opportunity here for Iran to send some troops to assist in clearing out the Ukrainian raiders from the borderlands. That would really cause some Western heads to explode. A nice way to attack the West with asymmetry. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 6 2024 20:26 utc | 268 So looks like Danilov has decided to invade Russia with “his” special forces! Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 6 2024 20:33 utc | 269 The attack itself is already obviously not just a “sabotage and reconnaissance group raid”, but a fairly large-scale operation, where the enemy is currently using forces of up to two brigades, which are covered by a significant number of air defense systems
Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 6 2024 20:38 utc | 270 So looks like Danilov has decided to invade Russia with “his” special forces! Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 6 2024 20:45 utc | 271 The attack itself is already obviously not just a “sabotage and reconnaissance group raid”, but a fairly large-scale operation, where the enemy is currently using forces of up to two brigades, which are covered by a significant number of air defense systems Posted by: Newbie | Aug 6 2024 20:59 utc | 272 Dima, says that this last attack on Kursk means that Ukraine is never going to negotiate with Russia. Just more war. Posted by: vargas | Aug 6 2024 21:30 utc | 273 Dima said the Stryker convoy (7 vehicles) in Kursk region was most likely destroyed, but the infantry they were carrying could still be in the villages. AFU plan was to take the villages on the east side of the river, providing water barrier, and use infantry to block the road to the north. No updates whether this has succeeded and what is happening now.
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 21:32 utc | 274 Dima, says that this last attack on Kursk means that Ukraine is never going to negotiate with Russia. Just more war. Posted by: malenkov | Aug 6 2024 21:55 utc | 275 Southfront thinks the Kursk and Kinburn spit attacks are a sign of impotence, and Ukraine has no more reserves left. This seems to be further confirmed by Ukrainian commanders in Donbass front, who were shocked of these attacks (regarding their cost vs. usefulness). Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 21:58 utc | 276 According to generalized data from all open sources, the enemy forces gathered for the invasion amounted to several thousand people (including artillerymen and UAVs in the Sumy region) and dozens of armored vehicles, a couple of air defense systems, several air defense systems with MANPADS for ambushes on our aviation, footage of the death of a helicopter spread by the enemy. He allocated elite brigades armed with Bradleys for the invasion. The enemy paid special attention to electronic warfare and evacuation groups, which, as in the spring in the Belgorod region, dragged away corpses. Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 6 2024 22:32 utc | 277 Kyiv embarked on a serious escalation of the conflict, hiding behind sweet speeches about negotiations. Posted by: MiniMO | Aug 6 2024 22:33 utc | 278 Daily DS dropped. Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 6 2024 22:34 utc | 279 Btw, if they ‘paid special attention to body recovery teams’, that probably means a large part of the attackers are foreign mercs. Albeit this group supposedly was moved from the Belarus border, it is mixed with mercs. Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 22:47 utc | 280 If what happened today in the Kursk region is the beginning of the enemy’s implementation of the main plan, then in the near future we should expect another blow in the Northern direction. IMHO. Perhaps, there will be a second blow on the border with the Bryansk region. But there will also be a third and fourth. The idea of creating a militia in the border areas was sound. But, unfortunately, it ended only with a media effect. Strength, fortitude and soldierly luck to our guys. These days will not be easy. Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 6 2024 22:57 utc | 281 unimperator | Aug 6 2024 21:58 utc | 276 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 6 2024 23:13 utc | 282 “Several thousand people” is at least times more than the initially reported 300. So this is a major attack and not a small diversionary one. Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 6 2024 23:15 utc | 283 Urban Fox | Aug 6 2024 23:15 utc | 283 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 6 2024 23:25 utc | 284 Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 6 2024 23:15 utc | 283 Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 23:27 utc | 285 Considering it’s Budanov and Nato, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he sends single troops into Russia and try to just kill everyone they come across. This is terrifying, but they could do that. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 6 2024 23:37 utc | 286 With Ukraine and Gaza, Nato/western killing is now off the charts and very in your face. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 6 2024 23:51 utc | 287 Commander Apti Alaudinov claimed RUAF has enough resources to deal with the Kursk incursion without affecting other things. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 7 2024 0:19 utc | 288 Ukraine is not on its last reserves, as it has been claimed to have been on its last reserves several times before, but they were wrong, again and again. Someone on twitter keeping track says
Posted by: MiniMo | Aug 7 2024 1:51 utc | 289 Ukraine is not on its last reserves, as it has been claimed to have been on its last reserves several times before, but they were wrong, again and again. Someone on twitter keeping track says Posted by: Urban Fox | Aug 7 2024 2:22 utc | 290 Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 6 2024 23:51 utc | 287 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 7 2024 2:25 utc | 291 Another day, another UAF suicide, another wave of commentaries attempting to describe a parallel reality. How can one follow this war for so long yet learn so little. Posted by: boneless | Aug 7 2024 3:18 utc | 292 Re: Posted by: unimperator | Aug 6 2024 21:32 utc | 274
What is this rubbish? Posted by: Julian | Aug 7 2024 3:43 utc | 293 Oops – left the bold & italics open – hopefully they are now closed. Posted by: Julian | Aug 7 2024 3:49 utc | 294 From DD: “Parallel to this, Ukrainian PSYOPS personnel have been actively disseminating various fakes throughout the day. One of them is a deepfake with the acting head of the Kursk Region, Alexey Smirnov, calling on all men to report to military recruitment offices to receive weapons.” Posted by: rk | Aug 7 2024 5:55 utc | 295
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