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August 25, 2024
The MoA Week In Review – OT 2024-202

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

Palestine:

Ukraine:

Selections:

Andrew Kloster @ARKloster – 23:57 UTC · Aug 24, 2024

BREAKING: Cornel West is dropping out and endorsing Trump.

“A brother can’t in good conscience endorse a pro-war, fake black, code-switching hussy whose ancestors owned slaves. I’m proud to stand with Donald John Trump.”

U.S. Navy Defeat:


Other issues:

Boeing:

Free Speech:

Color Revolution Watch:

Use as open (not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine) thread …

Comments

“Ce mandat de recherche courait si, et seulement si, Pavel Durov se trouvait sur le territoire national. “Il a commis une boulette ce soir. On ne sait pas pourquoi… Est-ce que ce vol n’était qu’une étape ? En tout cas, il est coffré !”, glisse une source proche de l’enquête à TF1/LCI. Depuis qu’il se savait persona non grata en France, Pavel Durov avait pour habitude de voyager aux Émirats, dans les pays de l’ex-URSS, en Amérique du Sud… Il voyageait très peu en Europe et évitait les pays où Telegram est sous surveillance.” TF1
https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/info-tf1-lci-le-fondateur-et-pdg-de-la-messagerie-cryptee-telegram-interpelle-en-france-2316072.html
Which gives the view that he knew he was wanted, that he will remain in provisional detention.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 25 2024 15:03 utc | 1

b, I’m glad you brought up Serbia in the Color Revolution Watch section. Because I was going to post that defence analyst and former Canadian Armed Forces member, Mike Mihajlovic, has gone dark. Well, he hasn’t posted anything on his X account since Aug. 12 when he posted about the anniversary of Austro-Hungarian troops invading Serbia during WWI: in part, he writes:
“ The civilian population suffered unimaginable war crimes committed by the Austro-Hungarian subjects, predominantly from Hungary, Bosnia, and Croatia. Habsburgs were very skillful in using Slavic people and turned them against each other. This battle was the first Entente victory in WWI. It was also the first massive war crime committed against the civilian population.
There is virtually not a single publication or book in the English language devoted solely to this battle. There are only several books about the Austro-Hungarian war crimes written in the 20’s and 30′.
This is going to change soon…”
I just wondered, about that.
And – There is a complete stoppage of rail transport in Canada right now due to a strike (Teamsters). While most widely recognized for east-west transport, it does go north-south too.

Posted by: Bruised Northerner | Aug 25 2024 15:19 utc | 2

One of the reasons I don’t indulge in “the end of the American Empire” thinking is that I know how the Empire operates around the world. The Empire may lose a war here and there, but it operates in most countries in the world spreading almost unlimited money around and using covert military operatives to deal with those who oppose imperialism. The anti-Empire forces are improving their situation very gradually, but we have to remember that the Empire gave up on being “Mr. Niceguy” long ago and want to expand their influence in every way mainly through bribes and terror. None of this has anything to do with “spreading democracy” as nearly all of us who comment here know.
Even if the US/NATO loses in Ukraine, which they will, or Israel falls apart, that does not mean the busy little ants that are feeding on a trillion dollars plus in Washington are going to stop their endless chewing and breaking up the world unless there is a Trump win and even then I’m not so sure–money and power are strikingly attractive to people in a hyper-materialistic and anti-spiritual Empire.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 25 2024 15:42 utc | 3

It would be ‘interesting’ to know how Durov ‘acquired french nationality’ . I actually find it hard to believe he has french nationality, much like Gerard Depardieu being notified he was no longer french (because de-patriation seems to be impossible in french law after 18yrs of age).
So similarly, no golden nationality law exists in france, meaning only by birth, marriage or recent descent allow faster registry. Naturalisation is 5 yrs of residence , and residence means sole residence taxable. I don’t think so.
So it appears corrupt or ‘fabricated’ somehow.
Without french nationality, france could not claim for actions of his outside of france, france would be itself responsible for interaction from its own territory with any foreign business or in this case application/web/servers instead of having a claim to right of action against the owner of those (for him being french).
Little detail out there on this, only various theories.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 25 2024 16:05 utc | 4

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 25 2024 15:42 utc | 2
No, the empire is not finished. But it is in manifest decline compared to what it was like at the turn of the millennium 25 years ago.

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 25 2024 16:06 utc | 5

Over on the Houthis thread an off-topic discussion started up
Goods from China…
American and International Corporations use China for manufacturing for a number of reasons – quite often in the past it was/is because China did not have an established set of protections for related environmental factors and protections for workers and even rigid inspections. Chinese factories build things to the US & International Corporations directives and specifications. If CHEAP stuff is coming from China it’s because the Corps you are buying from have told them where and how to cut corners to maximize the Corps’ profits.
Blaming China for producing and delivering the products they are directed to make, to me, is an indication of level of both willful ignorance and xenophobia.

Posted by: DoesItReally Matter | Aug 25 2024 16:09 utc | 6

I haven’t been able to confirm the “breaking news” that Cornel West has dropped out and endorsed Trump. The quote doesn’t sound like something he would say. It’s not going to move the needle much even if he did, but it would certainly be astonishing.

Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 25 2024 16:11 utc | 7

🇺🇸🇬🇧🇫🇷❤On the beneficiaries of the arrest of Pavel Durov
It has been less than two months since the day when Donald Trump almost ended up behind bars, and the Western left has a new victim – the head of Telegram, Pavel Durov.
Telegram has long been a thorn in the side of the American and European governments and intelligence agencies – in the USA and the European Union, the platform has taken on the outlines of an emerging bastion of “freedom of speech” in the face of the most severe and total control by X (the former Twitter), Meta recognized as extremist in the Russian Federation, and Google.
In the United States, the right-wing movement, which was cleaned up after the events of January 6, 2021, has almost completely moved to Telegram and has been broadcasting to an audience of thousands from there. Coordination between activists continued, and the truth about the elections of 2020 falsified by the Joe Biden team spread among the people – the Democrats could not allow this.
📌The operation to “tame” Telegram, apparently, was pre-agreed and planned, since a few days before Durov’s arrest, large American conservative channels faced bans in mobile apps and blocking of personal accounts of the owners.
Due to the most likely temporary problem with the lack of messenger keys, the following scheme was used: “troll farms” were massively hired (mostly consisting of volunteers from various left-liberal organizations that flooded Twitter), through which reports were thrown at one or another channel/account.
There are also big questions about what the moderators who satisfied such suspicious and massive complaints were guided by.
It is noteworthy that this was happening not only in the USA: inconvenient channels are being eliminated in the same way in Great Britain.
🔻Ultimately, the situation with Durov only confirms the fact that no matter how influential a person may be, it is impossible to remain a third party in the big game. Despite all the financial power, neither Elon Musk nor Mark Zuckerberg were able to escape “cooperation” with the US government. Even the billionaire who challenged the “swamp”, the 45th US President Donald Trump, was seriously affected.
The two chairs noticed during Durov’s interview with Tucker Carlson perfectly embodied the essence and rules of survival in big politics. Where Pavel, realizing this, made a mistake – it is still unclear. It is only known that third parties usually end up the way Julian Assange did in his time.

https://t.me/two_majors/30303

Posted by: Down South | Aug 25 2024 16:25 utc | 8

That Cornell West quote is fake

Posted by: v | Aug 25 2024 16:27 utc | 9

Re: Cornel West quote
The person who tweeted West was dropping out admits it was a joke. Look into the Twitter thread for his comments.

Posted by: morongobill | Aug 25 2024 16:40 utc | 10

“Even if the US/NATO loses in Ukraine, which they will, or Israel falls apart, that does not mean the busy little ants that are feeding on a trillion dollars plus in Washington are going to stop their endless chewing and breaking up the world unless there is a Trump win and even then I’m not so sure–money and power are strikingly attractive to people in a hyper-materialistic and anti-spiritual Empire.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 25 2024 15:42 utc | 3
No, the US/NATO/West is unravelling economically, culturally and politically as we speak.
Yes , in the past the US could print money at will with little or no consequences as it enjoyed being the world’s reserve currency.
They have abused that privilege printed up an unpayable debt so the only way to keep the reserve currency, which gives them Hegemony, can only be continued with more rape and pillage of the ROW (see Russia, ME, Africa, Asia)
So unless Trump gets elected WW#3 is coming.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 25 2024 16:43 utc | 11

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 25 2024 15:42 utc | 2
No, the empire is not finished. But it is in manifest decline compared to what it was like at the turn of the millennium 25 years ago.
Posted by: laguerre | Aug 25 2024 16:06 utc | 5
And every Presidential administration since the millenium has vigorously accelerated that decline, with no end in sight. All drunk on their own distillations.
I started to think I might live long enough to see this around the time Bush-Cheney decided attacking Afghanistan was the right answer to the 9-11 “attack”. I started to think decline was coming when Raygun was selected President. I knew it for sure around 1995 when I could see the Pentagon was going full-tilt Bozo over the idea that shoveling money to the defense & computer bidness was the right way to achieve military excellence, and also heard about the “seven countries in five years” ideas and Wes Clark being a genius.
Can I call them of what?

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 25 2024 16:46 utc | 12

Please rectify b.
https://nitter.poast.org/skeletonqi/status/1827505482598379802
Andrew Kloster
@ARKloster
16h
Replying to @skeletonqi @Trumpedup2damax
Nah, anyone with an iq above warm water will like and share even knowing it’s a joke
Aug 25, 2024 · 12:38 AM UTC

Posted by: xor | Aug 25 2024 16:52 utc | 13

One of the reasons I don’t indulge in “the end of the American Empire” thinking is that I know how the Empire operates around the world. The Empire may lose a war here and there, but it operates in most countries in the world spreading almost unlimited money around and using covert military operatives to deal with those who oppose imperialism. The anti-Empire forces are improving their situation very gradually, but we have to remember that the Empire gave up on being “Mr. Niceguy” long ago and want to expand their influence in every way mainly through bribes and terror. None of this has anything to do with “spreading democracy” as nearly all of us who comment here know.
Even if the US/NATO loses in Ukraine, which they will, or Israel falls apart, that does not mean the busy little ants that are feeding on a trillion dollars plus in Washington are going to stop their endless chewing and breaking up the world unless there is a Trump win and even then I’m not so sure–money and power are strikingly attractive to people in a hyper-materialistic and anti-spiritual Empire.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 25 2024 15:42 utc | 3
I hate to use the D word hear, but if you consider what you wrote in a dialectical sense, you are describing a breakdown in small quant steps which would show us the trajectory of US imperialism: decline. Once the loss in Ukraine becomes undeniable and if the Zionazis are at least checked by the resistance, then those little movements towards breakdown will invariably speed up and represent a change in quality aka “the end of the American Empire”. So, believe it, buddy. That’s the big news of this epoch of human history and its not going away because Imperialism has good PR or whatever.
Or, of course, seeing the writing on the wall, the woke, virtuous, democratic, anti racist Imperialists will just throw their last tantrum and destroy the world in nuclear fire.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 25 2024 16:58 utc | 14

Forget Project 2025, even though Trump will be hiring lots of people who haven’t, and consider his own words, Agenda 47. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform
8
Prevent world war three, restore peace in europe and in the middle east, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country — all made in america
12
Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world
13
Keep the U.S. dollar as the world’s reserve currency
#8 may say peace, but throwing billions of dollars into iron dome is a plan to “win” WWIII, not prevent it. “Peace” in Europe means somehow ending the war in Ukraine by secret means not explained, presumably a magical pig in the poke. The only pressure Trump put on fascist Ukraine was to find somehow the elusive proof that Biden was a traitor. In truth it peace would mean ending the war on Russia. It means something that this is not spelled out, because not being on the agenda is strong evidence that such peace is not on the agenda. Peace in the Middle East means either Israeli victory and peace with Iran. Inasmuch as Trump is the one who restarted the war with Iran by denouncing JCPOA, this too is
not on the agenda.

#12 is also a plan to win, not a plan for peace.
#13 is a promise to preserve the empire, not a plan for peace. The fundamental cause of the relative decline is the relative decline of US weight in the world economy. You could say these are synonyms I think. Since the elder Bush decided to target Iraq, blood has been the ultimate guarantee of US treasuries. Their role as liquidity is key to the dollar’s status as world reserve currency.
Also ominous!
18
Deport pro-hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again18
This implies support for the Zionist project in Gaza which equally implies “peace” is here defined as Zionist victory.
20
Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success
The implicit goal is not giving up the empire, but making it victorious.
I see no reason whatsoever to give credence to anybody claiming Trump is anti-imperialist.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 25 2024 17:05 utc | 15

Dr. Micheal Hudson’s on a roll, “Priceless Education from Dr. Hudson”: Worth every second you spend reading.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 25 2024 17:15 utc | 16

steven t johnson | Aug 25 2024 17:05 utc | 15
Keep up your intake of Koolaid otherwise there is a danger of becoming dehydrated.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 25 2024 17:23 utc | 17

This was my suspicion early on and now it’s apparent, it’s extremely troubling, France for all it’s problems was traditionally and still is the strongest democracy, it’s the only modern woke western shithole where millions of people still go on the streets and protest, repeatedly. That’s why de-democratization is so important and heavily focused there, they need to break the last EU citizenry with a political consciousness.

Quite an incredible move in French politics today that might reveal that we’re in fact witnessing nothing less than a coup by Macron. You’ll remember that on the 7th of July France held elections that Macron lost badly, and which the left’s “New Popular Front” won. We’re now 48 days afterwards and Macron and his government are still running the country, they’ve basically ignored the election results which is unprecedented in the history of the French 5th republic.
Normally, as is the rule set by precedents, Macron should have nominated a Prime Minister from the New Popular Front, the winners of the elections
At first Macron argued that it wasn’t convenient to change government right before the Olympics games and argued for an “Olympics truce”. Which is a bit bizarre because he’s the one who decided to hold the elections right before the Olympics.
Anyhow we’re now almost 2 weeks after the end of the Olympics and the situation is still the same so everyone is started to ask “wtf?” Especially given that the New Popular Front has a Prime Minister ready: Lucie Castets, a senior public servant.
Now the excuse by Macron’s camp is that they refuse a government with anyone from LFI (“France’s unbowed”, Mélenchon’s party), the main party on the left and therefore the main party in the New Popular Front coalition (Lucie Castets is not from LFI but some ministers could be).
Macron has been demonizing LFI in a very similar fashion to the way Jeremy Corbyn was demonized in the UK, with accusations of antisemitism for their support of Gaza. Except that unlike Corbyn, LFI doesn’t bow – they’re “France unbowed” after all – and fight back the accusations
Which brings me to what happened this morning, an incredible gamble by Mélenchon who asked an open question to Macron: “Say we committed to no LFI members in the government, would you nominate Lucie Castets Prime Minister?”
This forces Macron’s hand: if he says “no”, as Mélenchon himself wrote, it’d show that Macron’s refusal to have LFI in the government is “just a pretext to deny the election results”. In effect if he says no, he openly admits that he just doesn’t accept the election results.
Olivier Faure, who leads the Socialist party (the other big political force in the New Popular Front) backs up Mélenchon and says the “pretext of the presence of LFI ministers” isn’t valid anymore.
In a way a New Popular Front government without LFI would in itself a denial of democracy because most voters voted for them *because* LFI was part of the coalition. But this is also an act of political courage by Mélenchon and a way to put Macron in front of his contradictions.
We’ve already had some of Macron’s lieutenants reply such as Benjamin Haddad (former spokesperson for Macron’s party in the French parliament) who literally says that a New Popular Front gvt is unacceptable either way because it’d be bad for France.
They get to decide this?
Let’s see what Macron ultimately does but we’re truly witnessing something extraordinary that demonstrates how undemocratic France has become: the people voted and the result of their vote is so far simply rejected because those holding power don’t like it…
Arnaud Bertrand on X
@Slavyangrad
“>https://t.me/Slavyangrad/106967

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 17:35 utc | 18

Peter AU1@17 thinks it terribly unfair to actually pay attention to what Trump puts on his own website! Says it all about Peter AU1.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 25 2024 17:37 utc | 19

Re: Serbia in WWI
A imperfect film but good introduction to the topic.
King Petar The First
Trailer: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=guQzHCPkqJs&pp=ygUaa2luZyBwZXRlciB0aGUgZmlyc3QgbW92aWU%3D
And of course the plaintive song – damo daleko (over there – English subtitles and WWI footage
TAMO DALEKO -There, Far Away,Serbian song from WW1, English translation
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RmVL9lKyy2U&pp=ygUTdGFtbyBkYWxla28gZW5nbGlzaA%3D%3D

Posted by: Exile | Aug 25 2024 17:40 utc | 20

Seems this Andrew Kloster type also made other “pranks” like this one, almost simultaneously with the one of Cornel West:

BREAKING: Jill Stein is dropping out and endorsing Trump.
“Vice President Kamala has been at the forefront of support for Netanyahu and his apartheid occupancy of Israel. She made her career torturing black bodies with her carceral gulag in California. She refuses to use breath mints and is shaped like a pear. I’m for the Don.”

I second the following opinion on Andrew Kloster’s Cornel West “prank” (the guy is in 60’s or so, not a teenager ffs):
Common Sense @getcommonsensed 7h
Replying to @ARKloster @skeletonqi @Trumpedup2damax

Considering the attention span of humans now is less than a goldfish, this isn’t a good a joke. Many people will believe it which makes you no better than legacy media and their daily lies.

https://nitter.poast.org/ARKloster/status/1827505687783489808

Posted by: xor | Aug 25 2024 17:47 utc | 21

@ steven t johnson | Aug 25 2024 17:05 utc | 15
Good simple write-up.
It’s astonishingly obvious IMO.

Posted by: despondent | Aug 25 2024 17:56 utc | 22

steven t johnson | Aug 25 2024 17:37 utc | 19
A big difference between paying attention and believing.
You have been a troll ever since your name appeared here.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 25 2024 18:06 utc | 23

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 25 2024 17:37 utc | 19
Peter AU1@17 thinks it terribly unfair to actually pay attention to what Trump puts on his own website! Says it all about Peter AU1.

I have a lot of issues with Trump’s America the Great agenda but I think he is less imperial than you describe, rather he believes in ‘peace through strength’, a ‘don’t mess with us’ policy. Of course this sometimes bleeds into ‘do what we tell you or else’ which is problematic.
With Israel, if I understand aright, what he advocates is that Israel move the Palestinians out of the territory once and for all since clearly they cannot share the same country. This does not mean embracing genocide, rather getting the P’s to agree to leave ASAP by relocating them. There are only a few millions of them after all. So this IS a peace agenda of sorts.
With Ukraine, he might find it harder to craft a cease-fire and long-term agreement than he thinks because RF is no longer wasting time with ‘agreement-incapable’ interlocutors. But Orban thinks Trump has a way and said so after discussing things with Z, Putin and Xi.
I hope the alignment with RFK Jr and upcoming personages promised can create a bona fide Unity Administration which finally’ breaks the back of Corporate/Intelligence/Bankster capture. Tall order, but does he have a shot? Yes, more than any other Administration since the Civil War.
Trump keeps taking the country to challenging places more than any political leader since JFK. He is far better than his critics insist though perhaps still not pragmatic enough to pull off all he promises.
From the Asia Times article by Daniel P Goldman linked in this week’s selection, the conclusion:

“President Trump says that he will reopen negotiations with President Putin and end the war overnight. This alone would justify my support for his campaign.”
Kennedy Jr’s intervention might well decide the outcome of the presidential election. If it does, the implications for American politics will transcend the personalities and ambitions of the candidates.
He has turned a spotlight onto the dark recesses of American politics and shown things to American voters that they cannot unsee. The corporate media will ask voters to believe what they are told rather than their own eyes. This time, the trick may not succeed.
Follow David P Goldman on X at @davidpgoldman

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 18:07 utc | 24

Can I call them or what?
Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 25 2024 16:46 utc | 12
Ha! I’ve been thinking that way since the last chopper left Vietnam.
Yogi Berra’s ‘It ain’t over’ quote comes to mind.
But we hope for it, eh?

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 25 2024 18:09 utc | 25

Re: End of Empire ?
De-dollarization brings peace. De-dollarization prevents the War Party from funding wars using cheap low interest debt.
Already in 2025, ~35% of Federal Tax income will be devoted to paying interest on Federal Debt.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 25 2024 18:11 utc | 26

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 25 2024 17:15 utc | 16
Thank you, karlof1! I had just finished reading your comment at the earlier open thread on this enlarged analysis from Prof. Hudson. His comments in answer to questions have helped me understand the land tax issue better. It always confused me since I live on pueblo land so the property tax I pay doesn’t include land taxation. But that is a different issue although it comes to the same thing in the end. A land tax would offset the unearned income that is enabling the welloff to have undeserved heights of profit elevating home prices out of the reach of ordinary citizens. Which is why banking ought to be considered a public utility.
I had copied your previous posting, would have put it here if you hadn’t reposted. My only caveat for Prof. Hudson’s discussion about the division between east and west Christianity is that that division is not entirely an economic one. Economics is, as he points out a major indication of what is wrong in the usurpation of Christian principles but not the only one. Eastern Christianity is very much Trinitarian, and while the schism involved that concept, the separation between the two churches is more involved than simply economic. But that’s a different argument and doesn’t affect what Prof. Hudson is saying about economic issues.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 18:15 utc | 27

Can I call them or what?
Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 25 2024 16:46 utc | 12
Ha! I’ve been thinking that way since the last chopper left Vietnam.
Yogi Berra’s ‘It ain’t over’ quote comes to mind.
But we hope for it, eh?
Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 25 2024 18:09 utc | 25
Yeah, I hear you. I was telling my wife this morning it all goes back to when they defenestrated Nixon, and mind you I didn’t like Nixon much. Gerry Ford shoehorned in somewhat like Kamala today. Ever since then it is all kabuki, independent political actors no longer allowed, only the servants of the rich, and the rich always do a crappy job of running the country. Soon they will own it all and rent it to us, with a user agreement.
But you cannot dominate the planet that way. I would have thought that was obvious.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 25 2024 18:26 utc | 28

Trump’s going in a lame duck, reread that because it is critical. I don’t know what agreement he has made with the GOP, but what he will do has already been agreed to beforehand and the presidential clout he will yield allocated. My guess is the deal involves his handing over the MAGA base to enable a GOP victory in exchange for some retribution and personal vindication to so that his insane first term isn’t his historical legacy, other than that, despite Trump’s bloviating “star quality” the GOP will be entirely managing the second Trump term while building the new runway for Vance 2028. MAGA will be quietly dismantled and incorporated into GOP/Vance.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 18:51 utc | 29

….. A land tax would offset the unearned income that is enabling the welloff to have undeserved heights of profit elevating home prices out of the reach of ordinary citizen……
Help me understand this

Posted by: Exile | Aug 25 2024 18:52 utc | 30

Bemildred @ 28
Nixon was the last powerbroker president, self actualized with the autonomy to act as a statesman. Pretty much politics from ancient times that got incorporated into capitalist democracies after feudalism. After Nixon, and then Thatcher in the UK and the construction of Eurolandia, comes the neoliberal transformation of the economy and politics and all the following presidents have been managers not brokers. The neoliberal transition is a big deal, it dismantled pretty much everything established since the end of the medieval era, culture, economics, and politics.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 19:23 utc | 31

Posted by: canuck | Aug 25 2024 16:43 utc | 11
Id expect the rape and pilliage to an area code alot closer than RoW, as within 10 years RoW will no longer be avaliable. Is ww3 back on when dems get back in?

Posted by: Tannehouser | Aug 25 2024 19:54 utc | 32

American journalist Tucker Carlson described the arrest as “a living warning to any platform owner who refuses to censor the truth at the behest of governments and intel agencies.” Carlson’s statement reflects a growing concern about the balance between content moderation and free speech in the digital age.
I still think Durov’s pilot was either bought or threatened into landing in france.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 25 2024 20:03 utc | 33

LYFH@1735
We should bear in mind that Macron is but a tool. He has no agency. He is not “retired” as an agent/minion of the Rottenchild Crime Clan and inevitably obeys their demands. Whether the French opposition is consciously aware of this situation or not is open to question. Ditto, the majority of the French people.
However, similar to a rotting corpse, Little Macaroni is now reeking in his stench, rather than merely stinking. The kidnapping of the head of Telegram is yet another sign that the Paris regime does not represent the French people. If any nation in the Collective Wa$te arises in sheer disgust and frustration it is the French. That tendency was writ large in 1789.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 25 2024 20:08 utc | 34

Posted by: Exile | Aug 25 2024 18:52 utc | 30
Sorry that sounded scrambled. Better I just quote Prof. Hudson on that point:

“… banks have lent more and more money relative to the house value. So if you look at the price for all the real homes in the United States, the homeowners now own less than 50%, less than half of the value of their homes. Most of it is owned by the banks, and that means that the money that they’re paying for housing is paid as interest. The banks end up with much more money than the sellers of the homes, over the duration of the mortgage. And if that were taxed away, if you would have a land tax, then the land rent would not be capitalized into the price of a house. It would be taxed away, and the price of housing would fall by between 50% and 60% or 75%. So it’s the failure to tax away land rent, which is what Adam Smith, Ricardo, and Mill urged. This failure has caused the increase in housing prices that’s priced American and Western labor out of the market…

Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 20:08 utc | 35

“… banks have lent more and more money relative to the house value. ”
is that correct?
IMU banks have lent money in proportion to a _volatile_ market value of property.
Add in lowish amounts of property owner equity.
Negative market dynamic instantly puts the lender in hot water.

Posted by: MAKK | Aug 25 2024 20:37 utc | 36

aristodemos @ 34

If any nation in the Collective Wa$te arises in sheer disgust and frustration it is the French. That tendency was writ large in 1789.

👍 I hope it proves true, if not the French then who? USA is lost in MAGA GAGA GUGU.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 20:37 utc | 37

Bemildred @ 28
Nixon was the last powerbroker president, self actualized with the autonomy to act as a statesman. Pretty much politics from ancient times that got incorporated into capitalist democracies after feudalism. After Nixon, and then Thatcher in the UK and the construction of Eurolandia, comes the neoliberal transformation of the economy and politics and all the following presidents have been managers not brokers. The neoliberal transition is a big deal, it dismantled pretty much everything established since the end of the medieval era, culture, economics, and politics.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 19:23 utc | 31
“Move fast and break things.” Well, they did.
Beware of any nitwits that want to trash everything and start over, utopians of all stripes, and people who fancy Armageddon.

Posted by: Bemildred | Aug 25 2024 20:41 utc | 38

Le Pen should make a deal with Melenchon under which she joins a coalition in return for which her party gets some subordinate government posts, thus making it clear that what Macron is doing is a coup against the whole French people.
And the first thing such a coalition government does is to release the head of Telegram.

Posted by: Lysias | Aug 25 2024 20:43 utc | 39

For years, we have told readers that it’s critical to support local farmers and put the food supply chain back into the hands of the people—not corrupt mega-corps that flood store shelves with cancer-causing junk food.
Henry Kissinger famously said, “Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.”
It’s time for Americans to regain control of the nation’s food supply chains by making small farms great again. Also, boycotting the processed food industry and buying local food is critical.
If Trump wins, RFK Jr. will likely provide tailwinds for small farmers. And Europe will take note as corp/gov’ts have also waged war on small farms.

https://discernreport.com/rfk-jr-and-trump-will-end-war-on-small-farms-to-save-nations-food-supply-chain/
Would be very good if they can make a real dent in Big Ag and help small family farms return…

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 20:51 utc | 40

Lysias @ 39
Totally reasonable, M5S in Italy was able to form a very unusual govt. with the Northern League, so it’s not beyond scope. When the faltering status quo needs to reinforce themselves they immediately form a non elected government of “national unity” or a technocratic government. I have no idea why the opposition has so much trouble forming a government of national unity, instead of fighting to form a government, form the damn government and fight afterwards, but the real reason is that they are systematically infiltrated and undermined internally.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 20:55 utc | 41

Scorpion @ 40

TWould be very good if they can make a real dent in Big Ag and help small family farms return…

The day the GOP turns on big business to help the little guy I’ll eat a shoe.
Their raison d’être is to screw the little guy, the face-heel turn of the USA political system in the neoliberal era didn’t change the historical essence of the GOP, it just changed the appearance, new logo on the same shit product, what it did change was the DNC removing the historical legacy of progressiveness and helping the little guy. The little is fucked.
On the other hand I value your optimism, hope you’re right.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 21:04 utc | 42

It’s hard to fight against modernity, but it is surely unbearable to live in it, to agree with this state of things, where all systems are changed and traditional values become a parody, in addition to being purged and mocked in all spheres under the control of modern paradigms. This is the reign of the cultural hegemony.
And this state of the world bothers us. We fight against it – for the divine order – for the ideal hierarchy. The caste-system in the modern world is completely forgotten and transformed into a parody. But it has a fundamental point. In Plato’s Republic, there is a very interesting and important thought: castes and vertical hierarchy in politics are nothing but the reflection of the world of ideas and the higher good. This model in politics manifests the basic metaphysical principles of the normal (spiritual) world. By destroying the primordial caste system in society, we negate the dignity of the divine being and his Order. Resigning from the caste system and traditional order, as brilliantly described by Dumézil, we damage the hierarchy of our soul. Our soul is nothing but the system of castes with a wide harmony of justice which unites the three parts of the soul (the philosophical – the intellect, the guardian – the will, and the merchant – the lust).
By fighting for tradition, we are fighting for our deep nature as human beings. Man is not something granted – he is the goal. And we are fighting for the truth of human nature (to be human is to strive to super-humanity). That can be called a holy war.

-Daria Dugina

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 25 2024 21:24 utc | 43

Peter AU1@23 “A big difference between paying attention and believing.” This can only mean that believing anything Trump says on his Agenda 47 is BS unworthy of belief. This is a confession from Peter AU1.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 25 2024 21:25 utc | 44

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 21:04 utc | 42
On the other hand I value your optimism, hope you’re right.

If Trump believes he was genuinely targeted for assassination, and RFK Jr believes he has been screwed by the DNC, then both men might be motivated to do more than just posture.
From the minute Bobby announced his candidacy I was hoping – and indeed posted here – that they would team up to unite the common sense left and right which have much in common. I suspect Trump offered him the VP slot after he was shot at but Bobby wasn’t ready so a few hours after that call he announced Vance.
Again, if it’s not all kayfabe which it well might be, then a Unity Administration could prevail against the Deep State to a degree most American now feel impossible.
As to DJT being lame duck: yes, but maybe Bobby gets his 5% this November and wins as an Independent for next eight years. And Vance thereafter.
Also – again if not all kayfabe – Trump doesn’t love the GOP, indeed some in his camp were crowing that the convention had hardly any of the GOP grandees. Trump has a family member running the GOP office and many more loyalists in the mix.
The nation will know a lot more when he announces his AG. Anyway, sure made things more interesting, especially if this development is the beginning of a long overdue rapprochement between reasonable left and right.
What I like about the food/farm angle is that it is targeted and specific rather than overly broad and abstract. Working through the details will require confronting Deep State machinations head on without having to say so. It will stress Intelligence, Banksters, Judiciary, Executive, Media etc. but the cause – to stop poisoning children – is so straightforwardly correct that it might prove extremely difficult to obstruct; and yet success on that front will open the path to success in many others.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 21:38 utc | 45

Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 18:07 utc | 24 re Trump’s Palestine policy

This does not mean embracing genocide, rather getting the P’s to agree to leave ASAP by relocating them. There are only a few millions of them after all. So this IS a peace agenda of sorts.

So just ethnic cleansing then, not genocide. Isn’t it wonderful that peace is on the ballot in the USA!
[Lavrovian Facepalm]

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Aug 25 2024 22:18 utc | 46

The kidnapping of the head of Telegram is yet another sign that the Paris regime does not represent the French people. If any nation in the Collective Wa$te arises in sheer disgust and frustration it is the French. That tendency was writ large in 1789.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 25 2024 20:08 utc | 34
I see. But it appears to not have stopped at least one viewer of the new Duran video from calling for a boycott of French goods.
Like, sure, whatever rows their boat, but I’m not certain of what good that will do besides punishing the companies that make said goods for being, well, French. Just how much in bed are those companies with the Paris regime?

Posted by: joey_n | Aug 25 2024 22:18 utc | 47

About time for Shin beth and Gallant to see Ben G’vir as threat to Israeli national security.
Imagine the consequences of G’vir bringing in an army of bulldozers, driven by his well-armed brown-shirt settler minions, and protected by the police also controlled by G’vir, to demolish The Al Aqsa mosque – sacred to the Islamic faith.
Whither the IDF then?

Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 25 2024 22:29 utc | 48

“..As to DJT being lame duck: yes, but maybe Bobby gets his 5% this November and wins as an Independent for next eight years. . ..
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 21:38 utc | 45
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Do you write more than you read, Scorpion? RFKjr has withdrawn from the election.

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 25 2024 23:07 utc | 49

South Korean drivers scramble to get rid of electric vehicles, citing safety concerns following fires https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/south-korea-electric-vehicle-fire-incheon-mercedes-benz-used-cars-4563796

Posted by: Dogon Priest | Aug 25 2024 23:18 utc | 50

Whither the IDF then?
Posted by: Don Firineach | Aug 25 2024 22:29 utc | 48
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The IDF will defend and support the destruction of the mosque.
Please don’t fool yourselves into thinking that there’s a serious difference between the doddering Ashkenazim
and the Kahanists. THERE IS NONE. The difference is purely one of tactics.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 25 2024 23:23 utc | 51

Do you write more than you read, Scorpion? RFKjr has withdrawn from the election.
Posted by: Ново З | Aug 25 2024 23:07 utc | 49
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Well, yes and no. He’s suspended his campaign only in swing states. Otherwise he’s still campaigning.
The difference will be lost on most voters, however, so he won’t be reaching that 5% anyway.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 25 2024 23:27 utc | 52

Well, yes and no. He’s suspended his campaign only in swing states. Otherwise he’s still campaigning.
The difference will be lost on most voters, however, so he won’t be reaching that 5% anyway.
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 25 2024 23:27 utc | 52
Thanks for that clarification.

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 25 2024 23:39 utc | 53

Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 20:08 utc | 35
Thank you for that, but not being an economist I am still struggling to understand it. I am interested in the Land Tax concept and wrote a piece for a minor UK political party before the last election to suggest they put it in their manifesto, I might take it further and publish it for wider discussion. I think it is a potentially valuable economic weapon which should be revived in the UK.
I was interested in Hudson’s piece as recommended by Karlof1 and started to read it but it is of immense length and I do not have the time right now, so even while is doesn’t clear it up for me your extract was very welcome. I was baffled too by his distinction as regards house pricing between value and price.

And the purpose of distinguishing value from price was to define rent as the excess of price over intrinsic cost value.

All my life I have thought they are the same, that is to say, value is the price someone is prepared to pay.
I would welcome enlightenment!

Posted by: Walt | Aug 26 2024 0:31 utc | 54

Watching Christafarou talk about Durov, mentioning rumors that CIA and FBI are really behind it and French are just doing the USA’s bidding, pops into my head the USA wants to grab Durov, among other things, to ultimately trade for Snowden.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 26 2024 0:44 utc | 55

Posted by: S.P. Korolev | Aug 25 2024 22:18 utc | 46
Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 18:07 utc | 24 re Trump’s Palestine policy
This does not mean embracing genocide, rather getting the P’s to agree to leave ASAP by relocating them. There are only a few millions of them after all. So this IS a peace agenda of sorts.
So just ethnic cleansing then, not genocide. Isn’t it wonderful that peace is on the ballot in the USA!

Yes, forced evacuation, ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Palestine so it becomes a Jews-only state more or less.
BTW, didn’t mean to give impression I approve, was just trying to explain the policy as best I understand. Although practically speaking I don’t think there is any easy way forward, ideally Israel as a project should be abandoned and all occupied lands renounced. But I don’t see that happening any time soon even if ideally it should. And in fact I suspect that Trump’s solution, even though it is unjust and unfair, is quite likely the one which will most rapidly reduce the number of those killed, maimed and starved on the Palestinian side, and those stained by dishonour and disgrace on the Israeli side. All sides since 1948 have suffered greatly though in different ways, one side as oppressor and the other as oppressed.
Either all Jews should leave or all Palestinians should leave or they should live together in peace though I think this is the least realistic option of the three since I don’t believe the Jews in Israel will ever be able to live in peace with Palestinians without trying to force the second option, which is where we are now, namely that all Palestinians should leave. For all Jews to leave, this would require a huge sea-change either in Jewish attitudes or in world power configurations.
I might be misremembering, but I believe the Abraham accords more or less implied this over the longer term, no?

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 26 2024 0:59 utc | 56

BREAKING: Cornel West is dropping out and endorsing Trump.
It’s actually quite edifying — though very sad — that b would fall for such a crude prank. There comes a point I arrive at conclusions about the basic rigor of someone’s news judgement. The evidence is in and I don’t need to wonder whether you’ll fall for practically anything.
You sure as hell don’t know brother West. Most probably, you’ve never taken any interest in anything Cornel West has to say. Until now.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 26 2024 0:59 utc | 57

USA wants to grab Durov, among other things, to ultimately trade for Snowden.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 26 2024 0:44 utc | 55
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Okay, fine, but who would want Durov? (Besides some schizoid lady who plagues the RT comments section, that is.) Russia might want Telegram, but has as little use for Durov as Durov has for Russia.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 26 2024 1:03 utc | 58

thanks b…
chris hedges on the arrest of richard medhurst..
On the Arrest of Richard Medhurst
with regard to the telegram fellow durov, it seems a similar thing is evolving here… ismaele @ GeoPolitiQ notes – “Banning Telegram suddenly would have been too much for those who call themselves “democratic”. So it is necessary to find a pretext exactly like all those found whenever there was a war to “export democracy”, for example.”
shutting down free speech or any alternative narratives seems to be the game plan..
@ Aleph_Null | Aug 26 2024 0:59 utc | 57
it is and it isn’t ‘edifying’ for me.. hard to know just how much b can follow and be on top of.. it is a passing quote as opposed to a dedicated article on the topic, but sure – b doesn’t know anything about cornell west.. i can give you that..

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2024 1:37 utc | 59

This is being reported at Avia.pro…
French authorities have extended the detention of Telegram founder Pavel Durov. The AFP agency reports this, citing its sources. The exact terms for which the arrest was extended are not specified, which raises many questions among both the public and legal experts.
According to information received from sources close to the situation, Pavel Durov probably agreed to a deal with the French intelligence services. The details of the possible agreement remain unknown, but some experts suggest that Durov may provide access to the data of messenger users in exchange for mitigation of charges or their complete removal, which will depend on whether new facts come to light during the investigation.
Let us recall that the founder of Telegram was detained in France on charges of “failure to control content on his platform.” French authorities believe that Telegram can be used to disseminate illegal information, including drug trafficking, child pornography and other serious crimes. In this regard, Durov has been charged, which may entail significant legal consequences.

Pavel Durov’s detention was extended indefinitely

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 26 2024 2:16 utc | 60

Lysias, light years,
It is not up to them to form a coalition, as there is no such process in France “constitution de la 5eme republique”.
Macron has to nominate, monarch style, the PM, which should simply be from the winning party. But because there was an EU election just before which Le Pen won, Macron plays on that (note that he, i.e. his handlers, decided to have the parliament election immediately after, by disolving the assembly and call an election).
He pretends we have a system like The Netherlands or Germany or Italy, because the MSM dont make the difference and dont know the intricacies of the French system.
Another great danger of the EU, is when the juridical or political culture of your neighbours pretend it can replace yours, usually the result of centuries of adaptation.
That Macron did a ‘coup’ agrees with the psychological portrayal many have been giving of him, namely that he is obsessed with ‘transgression’.

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 26 2024 2:26 utc | 61

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 26 2024 0:44 utc | 55
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While Durov is a Russian by birth, he has passports for France and the UAE. He’s abandoned Russia and now reaps the whirlwind of being a jet-setting libertarian technologist.
Digging a bit deeper on him, he seems like a P.O.S. to me.
I don’t care if Telegram goes down. Someone will fill that vacuum. Sure, we won’t get our usual Ukraine reports as often as before. That’s ok because none of us can influence anything happening in the SMO and our attention may be better focused on our loved ones and our offline lives.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 26 2024 2:27 utc | 62

To #11, #24, and #42, I hope you’re joking in your statements about Trump. It’s public record that he had zero power as Pres., no one in DC has slightest fear of him. “Tweet. Cave. Repeat.” He was ignored entirely by Pentagon. In Aug. 2017 congress removed Russia matters from him and assigned them to the Senate, showing the world he was utterly powerless. Trump should’ve resigned. Medvedev commented at the time: “Any hope of improving our relations with the new U.S. administration is over…The Trump administration demonstrated it is totally powerless, and in the most humiliating manner, transferred executive powers to Congress….The American establishment completely outplayed Trump.”…8/6/2017, “Playing Politics with the World’s Future,” Alastair Crooke…Jared Kushner was de facto pres, had last word. I’ve been a registered Republican in New York (Manhattan) for many years mainly so I can vote for anti-Estab. candidates in primaries. The Republican Party doesn’t exist. Neither does Trump. He sold out his 2016 voters before he was even inaugurated. He’s now become a worse obstacle than the GOP Establishment pre-2016. He became a more vicious neocon than McCain. Neocon David Goldman’s endorsement of Don based merely on a statement he made is laughable. As to RFK Jr, I donated the maximum allowable to him knowing he wouldn’t win but wanting to show support by “Republican leaners.”

Posted by: susan mullen | Aug 26 2024 2:43 utc | 63

@58
It’s funny, when Durov moved to UAE I did not feel (and just that) that it was a guarantee of privacy. He portrays the emirates as neutral but I think that is not entirely true. It might be a neutral territory as far as concerns the individual, as far as respect for the choices of the owner of a business (as long as those fitted local law).
Durov (Telegram) holds a wealth of information that various agencies would like to get hold of (if they do not have access already). Encrypted messages might not be able to be disencrypted, however all the metadata (i.e. contacts made) are there and identifiable, stored (encrypted by the company probably) on its servers. The company cannot erase that data or encrypt it beyond own access because then the platform would not function.
Proton mail, one of the most secure mail platforms, is known to have that kind of loophole also – but protected by whatever local privacy laws (if they are respected).
So in effect, not only has Durov upset just about every authoritarian minded ‘organisation’, been seen to facilitate misdemeanor by the more virtuous (or self proclaimed) facets of various societies, not only is he seen as supporting opposite factions by all factions, not only is he regarded by some in society as a ‘tax avoiding priviliged elite’ , but he is jetting around with a vast matrix of contacts in his pocket that would be ‘very useful’ for some
Would that be a weakness for Russians, for example ? Probably not so much because Russia would keep the information that personally identifies contacts in Russia to itself.
For others elsewhere though that is not a given, and I expect Russia would not mind access to the information also.
So he is very trapped now, because there will be suspicion that some form of deal has been reached unless he spends a long time in jail.
For most people it would all be neither here nor there in practice, except they would no longer feel they have a more private means of communication or a platform that allowed open media as safely. That effects everyone who gains information from that platform. So interruption and a new sense of distrust to people.
Others though would be arrested, tortured or simply shot as a result.
So it would not be so much that Russia wanted Durov (beyond the sense of patriotism or security that would inspire) , but I should think it does not want the west gaining advantage from him either. At least it might be seen as a way to compromise by the west, as in ‘well Russia can be seen to take the blame’ for whatever. It isn’t going that way I think though.
Unless they want to look stupid (not unusual) or want to create a polemic (to push french censorship activities) or a distraction, france is not going to set him free – because they will consider he will just leave and not keep to any forced ‘agreements’. Why should he once he is outside their jurisdiction ?
So it looks like they will ransom him for info, or just make an example of him.
For those wondering, unlike the British subject to their conquerors, in france the laws were designed to disallow shedding of nationality for one reason – the state wanted to ensure that people did not escape being drafted. That mindset, of ‘owning’ the population, is degrading and must surely have contributed to various later ‘attitudes’ and realities.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 26 2024 2:48 utc | 64

Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 18:07 utc | 24
*** With Israel, if I understand aright, what he [Trump] advocates is that Israel move the Palestinians out of the territory once and for all since clearly they cannot share the same country. This does not mean embracing genocide, rather getting the P’s to agree to leave ASAP by relocating them. There are only a few millions of them after all. So this IS a peace agenda of sorts.***
As with all other such “peace” suggestions, the suggesters conveniently … forget … to mention the oil and gas which belongs to the Palestinians — and which the Palestinians would lose if they were transplanted to anywhere else.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 26 2024 3:09 utc | 65

LoveDonbass | Aug 26 2024 2:27 utc | 62
*** I don’t care if Telegram goes down. Someone will fill that vacuum. Sure, we won’t get our usual Ukraine reports as often as before. That’s ok because none of us can influence anything happening in the SMO and our attention may be better focused on our loved ones and our offline lives.***
Would that be a “You will know nothing, and you will be happy!” sort of thing?
(subject to regular checks by the Happiness Inspectorate, of course)

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 26 2024 3:40 utc | 66

I am not a Trump fan by any means and my default position is that the same ruling class controls both major parties. However, in this particular instance, there’s a significant schism in the ruling class, as often happens when the system goes into crisis. I think we can feel reasonably confident that the non-stop character assassination, the relentless law-fare, and the outbreak of actual shooting indicates that the current party of the corporations and big bankers DOES NOT LIKE TRUMP, and I really don’t think it’s just his comb-over. He represents the wrong fraction of the billionaire class, and while he is no case going to dispossess the bankers and plant the red flag over the White House, he does represent a different approach to resolving the current crisis of capitalism. Rather than keep trying to plunder the whole world by force of arms, which the US is manifestly no longer able to sustain, his faction wants to pull in their horns and regroup, meanwhile conducting their predatory foreign policy as cheaply as possible. It’s necessary to re-industrialize the continental US and control essential raw materials in Latin America in order to do this, and part of that problem is the destruction of Germany as a manufacturing hub and the isolation of Europe from cheap foreign energy, creating absolute dependency on energy and, soon, manufacturing from the US. A cold war with Russia/China/Iran is a key element of this strategy, but global nuclear war is not, it’s completely anathema. So, for a change, there actually is some difference between the parties.
Is it enough to get me to vote for Trump? No.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 26 2024 3:47 utc | 67

Posted by: susan mullen | Aug 26 2024 2:43 utc | 63
What you say is quite true, but I think there is another factor worth considering. Trump seems to have quite naive about the way the Deep State operates, but he got a lesson in that first term. At present, he’s still largely surrounded by well-groomed Deep State plants like Vance, but there’s some reason to believe that the people pulling strings on Vance and RFK jr actually do have a different agenda from the Clintons and their legacy operatives in the Democratic party. Not the kind of agenda most of the barflies would support (certainly not I) but still different in substance than that of the particular set of gangsters currently in control. It seems that quite a crowd of well-placed ‘dissidents’ is coalescing around Trump now, which to me means that the divisions within the Deep State and it’s financiers is real and growing.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 26 2024 3:56 utc | 68

@ Ornot | Aug 26 2024 2:48 utc | 64
that is interesting speculation on durov.. thanks… someone else upstream mentioned the possibility of a trade – durov for snowden..that makes less sense to me.. what you are suggesting is telegram is sitting on a lot of valuable info and info assets.. essentially durov becomes a pawn in a bigger game of war between russia and the west.. i am not sure just how valuable the info assets are…
i am reminded of the usa’s war against tic tok.. they don’t like the fact they don’t have a backdoor into it, so they have to shut it down or some such thing.. i imagine this is the same tactic here – a way to shut telegram down..
yeah, another telegram type format can come along – maybe there are a few already in operation… i don’t think you can stop all this, but the west seems intent on shutting down freedom of speech.. i mentioned the example of richard medhurst @ 59 – that is another example of the same sort of thing.. look what they did to julian assange.. it looks like the intel agencies are scrambling at this point in time, trying to pull holes in a ship that is slowly sinking…

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2024 4:11 utc | 69

@ Honzo | Aug 26 2024 3:47 utc | 67
who are you voting for then?? or are you not voting?? i enjoyed reading your posts @ 67/68 and relate to what you say in it all..

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2024 4:15 utc | 70

Responding to a comment on another thread.
Cryptography is ordinarily much easier (often “trivial”) to break with physical access. I doubt Telegram runs on super-special hardware.
One example:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_analysis
Of special note: ChipWhisperer (very briefly mentioned in reference article) which is Open Source and fully public and can run on various existing hardware or their own boards (for sale and with tutorial courses too afaik).
And yes any of this could be complete overkill for Telegram (or X or whatever).
Far easier for goons to simply kidnap the kid…

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | Aug 26 2024 4:19 utc | 71

Many folks don’t understand that we are in a civilization war and China is already part of it in various ways…..it may be resolved in Occupied Palestine or Ukraine but is part of a world wide challenge to GodOf Mammon hegemony
Below is a Xinhuanet posting title and link detailing the provocations by the Philippines that are backed by empire
Xinhua Commentary: Only right choice for Philippines is to immediately withdraw its vessel from China’s Xianbin Jiao
https://english.news.cn/20240825/9f1c416f171c497a85615e8b3ed52734/c.html

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 26 2024 5:05 utc | 72

Good morrrrrrninnng barflies from predawn bank holiday Monday in London! Our local festivities almost having been washed out over the weekend! But we survived!
Plenty of gobal fascist developments to catch up on …. Where to start?
Locally. We have the Red/Brown Bridgers starting their campaign as agit propagandists because of the spectacular failure to incite ‘race riots’ this election
Crown agit prop fake ‘leftists’ publication , Spiked, having failed to incite riots over the fake migrant atrocity in Southport has been set like a police dog upon its deluded followers.
This follows the spectacular failure by the MSM to leverage the state controlled agit prop ‘right’ English & Jewish Defence League limited company with its fake ceo, ziofascist Brit agent ‘Tommy’.
The state/msm continue to presevere with the unprecedented public pillory of gammon that have been given summary trial and punishment- which will incite other folk with its unfairness.
The uniparty ‘NewNuLabInc’ fake socialist democrats – also wholly controlled by the DS/Global robber Baron ziofascist Owners – now resort to taking the embers of the failed racist/ethno conflict with their latest Narrative- hospital staff refusing to treat racists!
If you been to a hospital recently you will not a large number of NHS staff are migrants! And the largest number of patients are of course locals. The resources are withheld and treatment has vestigation is bottlenecked and elongated.
It is designed to force rancour and dissatisfaction to lead the population towards the full on privatised insurance based medical attention of the US. Where it is used the keep employees chained, abused and poor.
So just like BrexShit it is about bridgng the the Left/Right fake ‘divide’ amongst the population to achieve that end and destroy the idea of a highest quality NHS , free at the point of need, forever.
Spiked, Red/Brown DS agit prop machinery, just as they did for BrexShit, been set on its latest task like a Rottweiler!
Fuck them and fake libertarian left and dumb right agitators who are aggravating for the global fascism as usual.
Ah dawn cracks, time for a morning cup of tea. I shall pop along with further observations of daily more fascism later.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 26 2024 5:11 utc | 73

who are you voting for then?? or are you not voting?? i enjoyed reading your posts @ 67/68 and relate to what you say in it all..
Posted by: james | Aug 26 2024 4:15 utc | 70
I’m not voting. I haven’t voted in a presidential election since 1976 which was the first time I was eligible and I still had the crack idea that it might make a difference, except that I came out of retirement to vote for Obama’s first term. Not because I wanted him to be president, but because I thought it would speed the demise of the whole identity politics bullshit. Well, it took longer than I thought, but it seems to be happening. I think participation validates the system, so I don’t.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 26 2024 5:23 utc | 74

I was baffled too by his distinction as regards house pricing between value and price.
And the purpose of distinguishing value from price was to define rent as the excess of price over intrinsic cost value.
All my life I have thought they are the same, that is to say, value is the price someone is prepared to pay.
I would welcome enlightenment!
Posted by: Walt | Aug 26 2024 0:31 utc | 54
I just had an idea, Walt- What if we do as Plato does in The Republic? There he and friends are discussing justice, having a difficult time, so he suggests that they go to a large example and perhaps can see it more easily, going from how it is in one person to how it is in a city or state. (Everyone got a bit distracted then, and thought he was talking about how a well organized city-state is run, but was he?)
But I digress.
Well, the ptb always say that government is like a household, but how about we Platonically reverse that and say households, homes, are like governments?
Hudson does this first of all by discussing GDP figures being a complete distortion of what they are meant to be because nowadays those figures include extremely non-product items that even we non-economists can clearly see don’t belong there. So, then what he’s trying to point out is how house prices have behaved in a similar way. There’s a lot going on that ordinary mortals like you and I find difficult to grasp. But those who benefit from our ignorance do, and they have been making a killing.
We both should bookmark karlof’s link and revisit it when we can. I plan to copy it out by hand. Sometimes that helps. And it helps to go other places, because each time, (like Plato,) Prof. Hudson explains it all slightly differently.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 26 2024 6:11 utc | 75

Juliania 6.11
Looking closer I see he didn’t directly equate price and value. as such. At one point he says, put in mathematical terms that
Intrinsic cost value + rent = price
Or, rearranging:
Price – Intrinsic cost value = the rent you can charge
Does intrinsic cost mean the cost to build the home in the first place? Then what he is saying is that the more the apparent value rises, according to market force, the more rent you can charge. Or, the more rent you charge the more the house is worth. There seems to be some value in that but I doubt that the correlation is precise.

Posted by: Walt | Aug 26 2024 6:52 utc | 76

Walt @ 76
Americans know the price of everything but the value of nothing.
A good example would be ukrainian or Palistinian life.
Respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 26 2024 8:49 utc | 77

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 26 2024 5:05 utc | 72
My feeling is that China’s general populace is reluctant to get directly involved in acts of war, even though they emotionaly cheer Russia to win against US puppet, but the mad empire seems to want to drag China into the front line following Russia and Palestine-Iran, no matter what.
If the risk factor in Taiwan or the Philippines is thoroughly inflamed, and finally war in East Asia as well, and China enters into a state of engagement with the proxies of the US empire, we will finally have a major battle on three fronts at the same time.
Ukraine, Gaza and possibly the waters around China.
But if that happens, I don’t even know what the ruling class in the West wants to do.
If we have several proxy wars at the same time, of course the West’s ability to help will be punctured.
The cult of Mammon seems to be the very Death cult as well now.

Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 26 2024 8:52 utc | 78

Posted by: Dogon Priest | Aug 25 2024 23:18 utc | 50
Interesting. There could be several reasons for this current dilemma.
Mercedes has several cell suppliers and technologies.
In 2021 they signed a partnership with ACC (a subsidiary of aTotal/Saft/Stellantis JV) to provide Li-NMC/NCM (Lithium-Nickel-Cobalt-Manganese) cells. These are somewhat analogous to the cells that Tesla use, and can be very prone to fire in a failure or damagedstate.
In 2022 however, they signed a JV with CATL to build LFP (Lithium Ferrous Phosphate) giga factories. These are far less fire prone…unless there’s a manufacturing fault or direct damage to the cells.
There may also be a range of other cell suppliers that they deal with, and they did announce some breakthrough with solid state battery technology in the past year or so, which seems to be where the tech is trending.
Another possible driver of the change in attitude to EVs is a concerted campaign by big oil (and it’s retained PR flunkies of choice) to shit-can everything to do with EVs…including paid for hit pieces across the media landscape.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 26 2024 9:34 utc | 79

Ps. Sorry. OT. Just realised.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 26 2024 9:35 utc | 80

Jon 9.35
You can’t be OT on the Open Thread.
Anything goes!

Posted by: Walt | Aug 26 2024 9:42 utc | 81

I thought I already posted this comment but I dont see it so I repeat. There is no sign that it might have been in moderation
@karlof1 | Aug 25 2024 17:15 utc | 16
I agree with karlof1 that Hudson contributes important information but as is always the case with leftists I also find it troublesome that they never mention how much all the people Hudson mentions as positive contributors, also were on the other side.
The dark side.
“In honor of Malthus’s achievement, the British East India Company created the first professorship in political economy to be established in Britain, appointing Malthus as first occupant of this position, at the Company’s Haileybury College, where its own agents were trained.
All the notable British economists—excepting the special case of Dr. Karl Marx—from Adam Smith and Jeremy Bentham, through John Stuart Mill—were, like Malthus, agents of the British East India Company. Most, like Bentham, Malthus, David Ricardo, James Mill and John Stuart Mill, were associated with and coordinated by Haileybury.”

“The African slave-trade, the China opium-trade, monstrous usury, and the profitable occupation of treason, were the hallmarks of moral character and philosophy of the British East India Company and its American agents. These were the Malthusians then; their descendants, and the Swiss and “black nobility” descendants, are the force behind neo-Malthusianism today.”
https://larouchepub.com/lar/2021/4807-lyndon_larouche_on_who_invente.html
And from other articles it is also clear that Marx wasnt any less intertwined with the oligarchy so he is not excluded from the need for everybody to be on their guard when he is presented as a champion of the people.
From the Larouche circle you obtain the part of the information many leftist’s so be aware that staying on the nominal leftist side of the argument the oligarchy still may have a hold on you.
By omitting that the oligarchy always plays on both sides the oligarchy has some cards left to play.
Has Hudson covered how much the anglosaxon empire has been behind spreading – actually imposing – communism?

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Aug 26 2024 10:09 utc | 82

And still another color attempt… getting long in the tooth…
“The United States is preparing to stage a color revolution to prevent the ruling Georgian Dream – Democratic Georgia party from winning the October parliamentary election, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said.”
https://tass.com/world/1833741

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 10:58 utc | 83

And still another color attempt… getting long in the tooth…
“The United States is preparing to stage a color revolution to prevent the ruling Georgian Dream – Democratic Georgia party from winning the October parliamentary election, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said.”
https://tass.com/world/1833741
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 10:58 utc | 83
In case some can’t or prefer not to open the original article
“The United States is preparing to stage a color revolution to prevent the ruling Georgian Dream – Democratic Georgia party from winning the October parliamentary election, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) said.
According to it, the White House is “extremely dissatisfied with the landscape in Georgia” ahead of the October 26 parliamentary election in the country. “The Americans are preparing a color revolution in Georgia,” the SVR pointed out. “At the ‘Tbilisi maidan’ they plan to make public ‘evidence of falsifications’ in voting, announce non-recognition of the election results and demand a change of power. Law enforcement agencies will be provoked to suppress the protests by force,” the intelligence agency said. At the same time, the Americans are working out options for a “ruthless” political and economic response to the “excessive” use of force by the authorities against “peaceful citizens.”
The SVR press bureau emphasized that in preparation for the color revolution, “Georgian pro-Western non-governmental organizations are recruiting a large number of people to closely monitor the voting process.” “They are tasked with identifying and recording ‘imminent facts’ of the authorities’ use of administrative resources even if they do not exist. Washington is providing additional funding for local opposition youth associations, which are expected to become the ‘locomotive’ of post-election protests,” the SVR added.
Increasing US pressure
The intelligence agency also pointed out that “the Georgian opposition forces controlled by Washington remain fragmented despite American efforts, and the coalitions they create remain very fragile.” “Against this background, the ruling Georgian Dream party could win the support of the public. As a result, the US fears that the politicians will have their hands untied to continue their sovereign course, refusing to fulfill the West’s demands which run in direct opposition to Georgia’s national interests,” the press bureau said.
According to the intelligence agency, “the White House considers such a scenario unacceptable.” “The Americans intend to turn up the heat on the Georgian authorities on a large scale in the remaining weeks before the elections in order to weaken the electoral position of Georgian Dream as much as possible. They plan to use a ‘tried-and-tested tool’: personal sanctions against the top leaders of the party, their family members, as well as the party’s sponsors,” the SVR said.”

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 26 2024 11:01 utc | 84

How the Centrists refuse to the winning French left to govern: “their program is dangerous”
https://www.leparisien.fr/politique/nouveau-premier-ministre-avec-ou-sans-lfi-cest-le-programme-du-nfp-qui-est-dangereux-selon-bayrou-25-08-2024-EQA2LPRVT5F5DI7G2OTB4LZO2M.php

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 26 2024 11:07 utc | 85

Regarding Price and Value
This is the same as discerning the differences deference between Money and Wealth.
I had to long learn that difference by personal experience.
I have stated it here abouts over the years but it seems to do the comical whoosh of air over peoples heads. I don’t know how you can truly understand this except by experience.
I guess you could read the short book Ragged Trousered Philanthropist.
By mysterious author, published after his death.:. Which clearly identifies within the context of property/houses the line between the two. – if you can see between the lines as well as the direct exposition.
I’ll try once again.
The Price of a house is entirely based on what anyone is prepared to pay for it IF it is up for sale.
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That’s it. That simple sentence packs a lot in. Let’s unpack it.
What anyone is prepared to pay depends on – how much cash they have; how much they can borrow from freinds and family or in most cases how much Magick Money is granted to them based upon their status and the whim of the creators of that Magick Money – with their mysteriously given powers to do so.
Of course it can be valued as a barter – say for instance someone wants to ‘swap’ something for it.
Maybe a house elsewhere.
Maybe some other desirable – a sailing ship for the new adventurer swapping with an aged sailor wanting to settle ..
Maybe a Jewel or a painting or a grumpier.
Maybe just as a born losers bet in a gamble!
Maybe a daughter or son as a marriage dowry;
Maybe as an Offer That Can Not Be Refused ! By gangsters, criminals and the Government.
Compulsory Purchqse is a thing and so is the valuation it pays out !
So you see that is the PRICE – it is wholly flexible and subjective.
IF.
don’t forget the ‘IF’ – because that is the most important precursor before any such Price is settled upon.
Most people owning a family home will NEVER want or need to sell their home. It will pass through their dynastic lineage.
The sale may be forced upon them there many ways.
War, invasion, eviction
Inheritance Tax demands based on a Valuation – arbitrary as it often is forces most children to abandon their old family homes.
Mortgage trapped by the MagickMoney Wizards who would destroy the affordability by increased interest rates – which is the current process underway across the Colective Waste.
Loss of income
Unexpected expenses.
Lifestyle changes – bigger families, smaller families, age…
So you see all that is about how the price is arrived at when it is available to be transferred! Haven’t covered all the ways.
But often and always with majority of private ownership it is about ripping REAL WEALTH from the actual creators of that wealth to the Bankers.
Often if it ends up in such forced sales – at auctions – the supply of dispossessed properties far exceeding the demand – the prices can fall to a fraction! And only these with plenty of savings or being the favourites of magic money creators can suck it all up!
Wealth is the true VALUE
This can go much further but I hope most can see the difference between someone creating actual ‘wealth’ say a furniture maker making a chair or table from bits of wood and it’s purchase for use by someone who ‘owns things’.
Or any type of skilled artinsans and builders who make homes for sale but will never be able to afford one of their own.
By the way the Land these properties exist on does not ‘belong’ to the house owner in most instances. It belongs to some warlord king who claimed it and the resources underneath it; the fresh water that falls on it, the river that runs through it. All imaginary as is easily seen when compulsory purchases suddenly wakens someone or the ground is Fracked underneath or mines cause subsidence.
Moneteraly – the nearest one ever gets to a valuation is when you get an insurance policy incase of total destruction through fire or calamity! That is identified usually as the ‘rebuilding cost’ which again is arbitrary and subject to inflationary vagaries. A guess really by the Actuaries – these who are the most powerful within the world of VALUATION- because they largely use real statistics.
Anyway – hope that helps people get past the fog , actually smoke blown up our arses constantly to keep us confused about the magic of Price and Value, Money and Wealth through the pseudo religious gobbledygook that is economics and its theories. A pox upon all their houses 😈

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 26 2024 11:45 utc | 86

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 25 2024 23:07 utc | 49
“..As to DJT being lame duck: yes, but maybe Bobby gets his 5% this November and wins as an Independent for next eight years. . ..
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 21:38 utc | 45
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Do you write more than you read, Scorpion? RFKjr has withdrawn from the election.

You are wrong; read more.
He is withdrawing his name from the ballot, on which citizens record their vote, in the ten main swing, or battleground, states wherein a few cities, most controlled by the DNC machine, often determine the national result. He remains on the ballot in the remaining 40 states wherein if he gets 5% of the national tally his candidacy (or Party?) qualifies for significant government funding next election and will get different treatment (perhaps) from the media etc. It is a significant hurdle.
Apparently he and Trump have been talking of a Unity government for some time, indeed they started in 2016 but Trump finked out as he became entirely outmanoeuvred in DC as many above have noted.
Have slowly been adjusting my habitual good versus evil, right vs wrong, filter over the years and come to the conclusion that both individually and collectively most are a combination. We all have positives and negatives and I now think the same of Trump and others. Barring the whole thing is kayfabe – which often provides the most reasonable explanation – I think Trump is a combination of bad and good ideas/policy aspirations, some of which he is more able to push forward more than others (and some of which are beneficial, others not). Most of the Establishment didn’t want The Wall, for example, but he was within about 6 months of completing most of the key areas when he left office in 2021. He had to classify it as a national emergency and use funds allocated by Congress to the military in order to finance it, and as typical with DJT the builder, it ended up costing less than most had forecast and went up fast once he had got through the many hurdles in the Courts and Congress.
A left-right Unity government in principle has the potential to change the Uniparty grasp on power in the States. Chances are that everything Honzo and suzan and others say to the contrary is correct, but again I think there are some positives in the mix, and not just aspirational. Bobby, clearly a troubled soul in many ways, also has a solid track record going up against major corporations and winning, and with verifiable results to boot, as the Hudson river demonstrates which in turn spawned a conservation association that is making a real-world difference, now world wide. He knows how to fight the Big Boys and Get Things Done, no small thing.
Trump also, to build buildings, has to go through sometimes 10-20 years of red tape and litigation involving not only competitors and local crime cartels (when in NYC for example), but all levels of government, municipal, State and Federal, wherein are many enemies as well as friends. Many times he failed but many times he succeeded and generally his buildings are of good quality and often quite interesting. By all accounts his Post Office to world class hotel conversion in DC was excellent and this is typical of his work. That work involves patience, tenacity and navigating through shark-infested waters to end up actually Getting Something Done. Most of his critics would not have the chops to build a single skyscraper in NYC or luxury golf course etc. and yet they look down on him scornfully as no more than a blowhard. He is that, but not only. Many working people, especially men, see him as one of their own; because he actually is. People are so used to everything being entirely phony these days that it is hard to perceive when something not entirely phony presents itself. Again: a mix.
So am hopeful that if this union has legs, they might actually start to shift the paradigm. One theme emerging, which I think has some truth to it, is that ‘it’s not left versus right anymore but reasonable versus crazy’. There is a Youtube with Bret Weinstein and PBD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju4ff_Ud99A (which I watched after my posts here yesterday) that has an interesting conversation, IMO. Bret is positive, and he was one of the leading alternative US intellectuals who went down to the Darien Gap to see for himself what was happening and came back to report on Tucker’s widely watched independent platform. He wants his country to do well, morally as well as politically, and is putting his shoulder to the wheel to help make it happen. He finds the alignment ‘monumental’, the biggest thing potentially since 1776. That might be over the top but think: if ordinary Americans can capture the middle and relegate the Uniparty Dems and GOP to the fringe, they really might have a shot at Draining the Swamp once they get the WH and enough votes in Congress to move things through. The only way this can happen is with a veritable landslide in November. Ideally they should get NY and California and just about everything else. This is what is being proposed.
Yes, the PTB are deeply corrupt and quite powerful. But they are not the sum of all in the mix. Can the American system actually accommodate the wishes of ordinary, largely decent We the People or has the entire thing been captured by Bad Actors as so many have gradually ‘woken up’ to realize?
I think there is a mix in the mix, though one never knows if one is not being ‘fooled again’.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 26 2024 13:32 utc | 87

The exchange between Scorpion and S.P. Korolev over the expulsion of Palestinians from Palestine=Trump’s (anti-imperialist?) peace plan is remarkable. My remark is that in this scheme Trump is Andrew Jackson, the Zionist colonial enterprise is the state of Georgia and the expulsion of the Palestinians is the Trail of Tears which was a genocidal assault on the Cherokee. Even the Belgian king’s genocide in the Congo was more targeted than that, plus at least had the goal of personal profit. Anti-Semites like the Nazis and Col. Beck of the Polish junta made diplomatic efforts to resettle Jews in assorted locations, like Uganda and Madagascar. Lenni Brenner documented some cooperation between Nazis and Zionists to foster Jewish emigration to Palestine. There really isn’t anything comparable in modern times to the way the Nazis wasted resources on killing the old, the women and the children en masse just to purify the population. Viewing “genocide” as just meaning that kind of homicidal mania is too limited. The US was rich enough that mass expulsion of Japanese on the west coast (but not Hawaii!) to concentration camps didn’t turn into mass murder. Mass deportations of Tatars and such during WWII was lethal enough but even during the Nazi assault that didn’t turn into mass death (due I think to the socialist nature of the USSR but that’s me.) Nonetheless every anti-Communist remains profoundly convinced such deportations were a hideous atrocity.
Honzo@67 claims Trump’s faction of the bourgeoisie wants to re-industrialize the US. Such re-industrialization would involve infrastructure investment generally, industrial policy subsidizing targeted industries, and building domestic markets—which historically means higher wages. Manufacturing jobs are not good jobs, union jobs are good jobs. In other words, that program was expressed in the Build Back Better and PRO Act program Biden supposedly tried to enact. The limited substitutes were the infrastructure bill and the CHIPS act and so forth. It is Biden’s faction that has done what Trump lied about doing.
Biden also continue using Trump’s anti-China tariffs, the only concrete step Trump ever actually carried out in what is here alleged to be his faction’s program. (My personal judgment is that Biden conservative, complacent efforts are wholly inadequate, hence my personal nickname for Biden “President Band-Aid.” Any political judgment based on the unfounded claim Trump was/is a re-industrializer is necessarily nonsense. And pulling in the horns to regroup? That was also Biden, who actually withdrew from Afghanistan.
Honzo@78 “I think participation validates the system, so I don’t.” This is also nonsense. Non-voters are always deemed to have given tacit consent, always. The personal feeling that not voting expresses discontent doesn’t change that. That’s why there are so many legal and economic obstacles to voting for genuinely dissident candidates. And that’s why political parties in this system are not programmatic parties that stand by their platforms.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 26 2024 14:10 utc | 88

“He obtained his French passport in 2021 through a special procedure for high-profile foreigners exempting them from the usual legal requirements, including having lived in the country for at least five years.
The French foreign ministry, which is in charge of the procedure, did not immediately reply to a Reuters request for comment. The Elysee presidential office also declined to comment, deferring to the foreign ministry.” Reuters
Very funny. If it was an honour award it would have been announced for that, for service to france. If it was essential human rights it would have been explained as that , but he already had other nationalities.
I don’t find the related procedure mentioned in law, at most a reduction of residence to two years.
As for historic (by merit) decree , via the assembly, the procedure was annuled. Those were, ironically, for contributors to literature, freedom etc.
So I call corruption on his french nationality.
My experience is that these ministries are a void – they will explain nothing and take no responsibility. There is no transparency or effective means to apply responsibility.
Hence the circular deferrement in the article.
“Special high profile procedure” … very funny.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 26 2024 14:10 utc | 89

@ Honzo | Aug 26 2024 5:23 utc | 74
thanks honzo… i appreciate your response..

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2024 14:59 utc | 90

T”he Chilean declaration

I don’t see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves

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Meaning…
[THE jungle is too stupid to run their own affair]
Hence for this last decade, western prez, PM, FM, journo, in fact, every Tom, Dick and harry have been trotting to ROW offering unsolicited wisdom.

Stay away from chicom death trap !

Exhibit A
Limey lecturing SA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ-TPLPoAX0
Germans lecturing Namibia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QRi12ldhos&t=340s
etc etc….
White man burden lives on.

Posted by: denk | Aug 26 2024 15:09 utc | 91

this is an interesting view of the issue from Vasily Prozorov

“Durov’s arrest is not about security. And here’s why
Many of us remember the opening of the Olympics in France for episodes that are openly offensive to Christian civilization. However, in the Western world, supporters of left-liberal ideas stood up for the authors of this performance and assessed it as a reflection of the “spirit of freedom” of France.
This “spirit of freedom” is an integral part of the “brave new world”. The world of free sexual relations, pedophilia and drug addiction that the West is building. In fact, it is a totalitarian system based on hatred of “ordinary” people and aims to enrich the democratic oligarchs. The guardians of this so-called freedom are the special services of NATO countries and the information resources they control. In recent years, we have seen how those who stand up for traditional values are subjected to repression on their platforms.
Pavel Durov created a platform where all opinions are represented. Both left-liberals and conservatives. If we talk about a topic that is closer to me – Telegram has a lot of both pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian channels. Such flirting with pluralism of opinions could not go unnoticed by Western intelligence agencies.
At the same time, it would be fundamentally wrong to claim that Telegram does not contact Western intelligence agencies. For example, in February of this year, the General Secretariat for National Security and Defense of France included the UKR LEAKS channel in French on the list of threats to the country’s national security. A week later, the channel was unavailable in France. This could not have happened without a dialogue between French law enforcement and the Telegram administration.
Now Durov is accused of complicity in drug trafficking, crimes against children, and fraud due to the lack of moderation in the messenger. I asked my foreign audience whether Telegram blocks certain channels in their countries. Everyone answered – yes the Telegram administration regularly identifies and blocks channels that are associated with criminal activity. That is, Durov’s team is responding to requests from local authorities in various countries, which means that the charges brought against Durov are unfounded.
The arrest of Pavel Durov is not just a violation of local laws in France by him and his platform. This is an act of ideological aggression by Western democrats with catastrophic consequences for freedom of speech around the world. It’s scary to imagine what consequences exactly.
There is no doubt that this farce with the arrest was organized by order of Washington, because American intelligence services have long wanted to gain access to Telegram, as they have already done with WhatApp and Facebook.
I remember how Durov recently talked about how good it is to vacation in France. Especially, having French citizenship. It is unlikely that he will be vacationing on the Cote d’Azur now.
So much for Liberté – Égalité – Fraternité.”

Posted by: cirsium | Aug 26 2024 15:11 utc | 92

I think there is a mix in the mix, though one never knows if one is not being ‘fooled again’.
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 26 2024 13:32 utc | 87
This is always the problem, Scorpion. I truly haven’t known if I am going to vote this time around as the system is so broken. I hardly watched either big convention, but what struck me about the Democratic one was that there was no controversy about who would be chosen because it already was a done deal. And the last one was similar, just the emperor then, at least, had a few clothes on. This time, she was naked.
If she wins, I will know, we will all know, that the system is completely broken.
Whereas, Trump had to fight his way to the nomination, so the contrast was pretty clear. I don’t want to sound gullible about that, but there was a consistency to what was happening — reaching back to his first presidency, which was a constant battle, start to finish: as in Ukraine, all decency abandoned by the opposition. And at least he, Trump, was fully clothed. Being a modest person myself, I appreciate that.
Also, I ponder the inner workings of the man after surviving a near miss death experience; we might remember that erdogan had the same sort of occurrence, and also Reagan. Were they new persons after that? Well, anyone in public life who has enemies has to face such possibilities, but coming that close must impact one’s inner core of beliefs. Strengen them, I would think. In good or bad ways. Everyone has the same inner inner core of good and bad tendencies. Everyone. In critical moments, we get to choose.
So, it’s important to choose carefully in November. We are in a critical moment. And in a broken system, it might take a tsunami vote to overcome that relentless other force.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 26 2024 15:31 utc | 93

@ cirsium | Aug 26 2024 15:11 utc | 92
thanks for that and it supports my basic belief on his arrest at this point.. until something changes, that is how i see it too..

Posted by: james | Aug 26 2024 15:33 utc | 94

Sorry, “strengthen”

Posted by: juliania | Aug 26 2024 15:37 utc | 95

https://t.me/Slavyangrad/107005
There are two irreconcilable worlds that have turned against each other. Us and them.
<=the concentration of wealth, power and control are consequences of division by polarization. humanity differentiated by: and controlled from level 9 intl orgs (NATO, BRICS, BIS, etc.) top down level 8 Intl organized trade + NSS system top down level 7 access to raw material, econ.&tech. top down level 6 territorial boundaries, rule of law) top down level 5 banking, transport (currency) & storage ________ (wealth) of value (Money) top down level 4 religious, political & social orgs top down level 3 gangs and criminal organizations top down level 2 beliefs in ideology or religion bottom up level 1 genetic diversity nature It is clear human rights were suppressed by the top down few early in the development of the human world. This bias is maintained by the claim that those with the power can conduct their activities in secret.. never disclosing to those they govern or exploit what happened.. It is the fault of those who are the governed..that the governed have come to be dominated by a dictatorial clan of vicious people? Has humanity allowed the few to take advantage of its global masses? States have a monopoly on [ownership of and access to] wealth and power. There are two forms of state power: direct monopoly power (the government); indirect privatized wealth and power given by the state to a few (in the form of patents, copyrights, franchises, and government contracts) or to the corporations and other entities owned by the few). It is obvious that the more governmental monopoly power that ends up in private hands the weaker the government. In time, the governments become so weak, they become pawns, in service to, the few. Unless humans born into the world rise to change top down to bottom up control, humanity is doomed to be dominated and to be abused by fewer and fewer who are wealthier and wealthier. To retain control the few must maintain oversight and veto dominance. States have no power; greedy people claim they have the authority given to a state as an excuse for their exercise of personal power. States cannot do anything. Dominance is a feature of unequal polarization, that is why division gives rise to the rise of conquers. The war that is coming will balance the western power with the eastern power. "He who owns the police and controls the news owns you, your wife and children and everything you and they own" <= Al Capone. Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Aug 25 2024 15:42 utc | 3 unless there is a Trump win <= Trump proved he is unable to change anything and he also never asked the masses that voted from him for help..Trump kept his people out of the loop during his first term and likely will during his second term. WWIII is coming..and my bet is Trump will prove to be a poor general. Posted by: Exile | Aug 25 2024 18:52 utc | 30 ….. A land tax would offset the unearned income that is enabling the well off to have undeserved heights of profit elevating home prices out of the reach of ordinary citizen……Help me understand this <= The 16th amendment eliminated the only way possible to tax the rich.. it was the war parties idea.. to collateralize the bankers who were dead set on financing the over throw of the oil rich Ottoman empire in the war known as WWI.. the 16th amendment reads: The Congress should have the power to lay and to collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several states, and without regard to any census or enumeration. the 16th amendment replaced Article I, Section 9, paragraph 4 which read.. No Capitation or other direct tax shall be laid, unless in proportion to the census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken. furthermore those who privately own land already pay taxes to the counties and cities. and it is not failure to tax landowners that is "enabling the well off to have undeserved profit from artificially elevated home prices. Hudson is dead wrong on this point. <=Counties already tax everyone's land. In fact it is just that county city land tax which is a major contributor to higher home prices. The counties are anxious to have housing prices go higher and higher because they collect and live off of a tax based on a percentage of real estate value each year. The insurance industries lobby more restrictive building codes because insurance profits skyrocket when premiums for replacements costs increase, and actual losses (payouts by insurance companies) decrease (higher premiums, fewer claims). So homeowner pays double for his insurance(higher premiums, and higher cost to build or replace in the case of loss) Zoning, material suppliers, labor, building codes, insurance lobbying and politics account for the higher real estate cost which are forcing homeowners into foreclosure. Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 20:08 utc | 35 So it’s the failure to tax away land rent, which is what Adam Smith, Ricardo, and Mill urged. This failure has caused the increase in housing prices that’s priced American and Western labor out of the market... <= pardon me, but I own a few pieces of real estate and I develop new housing subdivisions; Hudson is dead wrong in believing if the value of land were taxed to 0, housing prices would decrease or rents would decrease. the price owners would need to charge for rent would triple.. already it is a struggle for developers to develop subdivisions or landlords to make a profit, because of insurance costs, land cost, cost imposed by building codes, and payments to county officials or local lawyers to get the right to develop land suitable for new housing. The failure to tax the people in accord with Article 1, Section 9, paragraph 4 as above quoted accounts for inflation in general.. including house costs. Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 26 2024 11:45 utc | 86 smoke blown up our arses constantly to keep us confused about the magic of Price and Value, Money and Wealth through the pseudo religious gobbledygook that is economics and its theories. <= the price of a house is what willing buyers will pay, but if the cost to construct exceeds the willing sellers cost there will be no willing sellers, and if the Landlord costs exceeds the market determined rents, the landlords will offer no rentals. The correct solution, to be in line with Hudson economics, is for the government to own all housing and the government to provide to everyone a place to live.

Posted by: snake | Aug 26 2024 15:45 utc | 96

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 26 2024 3:09 utc | 65
Although the press doesn’t cover it much – the Netanyahu government has been in talks with a number of countries in order to find a haven for most of the displaced Palestinians. It has no other choice (unless completing the genocide) for the simple reason that the enclave is grossly overpopulated. Divide 2,300,000 by 365 square kilometers, and what you get is 6300 inhabitants per square kilometer of the Gaza Strip. 6300 can be implemented as has been in the past, as an open-air-prison. It cannot, however, become a sovereign state – unless, like in Singapore, the third dimension is heavily used.
So it is a given that a large fraction of the Palestinians need to be resettled.
I know, you will attack me for disregarding their rights, like the first time I posted on this topic. But all I’m saying is: there is no solution without partial resettlement, as a law of nature, to get the population down to a sustainable level of some 500 per square kilometer. Trump knows this, even Netanyahu does (the jews are smart as you know). Only MoA is lagging behind. For how long?

Posted by: grunzt | Aug 26 2024 15:55 utc | 97

@ grunzt | Aug 26 2024 15:55 utc | 97
re: So it is a given that a large fraction of the Palestinians need to be resettled.
Yes, Israel [it says] owns Palestine. Israel’s position on borders was determined by UNSC 242 on November 22, 1967. Israel supported the resolution because it called on the Arab states to accept Israel’s right “to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force.” Israel’s recognized boundaries are the ‘Mandatory Palestine’ borders from the past. Palestine was not mentioned in 242.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 26 2024 16:15 utc | 98

Posted by: snake | Aug 26 2024 15:45 utc | 9
You have incorrectly attributed my quote from Prof. Hudson to me. My admittedly poor understanding of the land tax issue is that he does not explain it in detail in this interview, but does to the extent that I quoted him.

Posted by: juliania | Aug 26 2024 16:18 utc | 99

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 26 2024 16:15 utc | 98
I’m not advocating a change of borders (Netanyahu, for sure, is). Some 150,000 Palestinians should stay in the Gaza Strip.

Posted by: grunzt | Aug 26 2024 16:32 utc | 100