10 Nov 2024, 4 Dec 2024 ?! Your first two quotes have the wrong year, b.
yours finically,
Ново З

Posted by: Ново З | Aug 24 2024 14:51 utc | 4

I read that the Oil Tanker M/T Sounion, which the Houthis set on fire, was a known dark fleet tanker also carrying Russian crude oil from time to time. That attack makes little sense then.

Posted by: hans23 | Aug 24 2024 14:52 utc | 6

Isn’t it true that the Houthis only harass shipping headed to Israel? Everybody else gets through without any problem, Right?
Also the vertical launch tubes in the military ships can only be reloaded in port, Right? So there are only so many times a military ship can fire before it leaves the theatre.
The Houthis could keep this up forever. Right?

Posted by: count-rumford | Aug 24 2024 14:54 utc | 8

>Where’d you read that, Hans?
https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ezme7i/houthi_striking_mt_sounion_earlier_today/
the owner, delta tankers, was added by ukraine to its list of “sponsors of war”:
https://nazk.gov.ua/en/news/the-status-of-five-greek-shipping-companies-was-restored-in-the-list-of-war-sponsors/#:%7E:text=Therefore%2C%20the%20NACP%20restored%20their,Minerva%20Marine%3B%20TMC%20Tankers%20LTD

Posted by: hans23 | Aug 24 2024 14:59 utc | 10

Mr. Sharpe has a very punchable face.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 24 2024 15:02 utc | 12

The Empire has many fires burning that may require their full support. Its tough for their media specialists to grasp that they cannot be everwhere at the same time. Which brushfire will turn into a full scale blow out first is anyones guess at this point.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 24 2024 15:08 utc | 14

Not saying anything until the Mail opines on the situation!

Posted by: jpc | Aug 24 2024 15:08 utc | 16

“The Houthis will presently have missiles again if they don’t already”
?? Not sure they even read their own sentences.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2024 15:11 utc | 18

This is very amusing.
It’s not clear to me that sane people take the Telegraph seriously.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 24 2024 15:16 utc | 20

There is zero (naught) impartial unbiased journalism and media in the collective wa$te left. Just enemy journalism and media. What a shame.

Posted by: AI | Aug 24 2024 15:24 utc | 22

The US Navy lost in the Red Sea last June. When the USS Eisenhower and group left the Red Sea after 6 months of battle. With Ships and Aircraft in bad need of repair, low on ammo, crew worn to a frazzle, and a big banner hung from the Con tower saying “Mission Failed”

Posted by: golddigger | Aug 24 2024 15:31 utc | 24

Who’d a thunk it?
The USA gone an lost another goddam war!?

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 24 2024 15:57 utc | 26

Blue Water navies have become obsolete…the Houthis have shown that very well..So no invasion of Iran is even possible, despite the claims of our neocon maniacs…

Posted by: Pyrrhus | Aug 24 2024 15:59 utc | 28

“US military sealift command (MSC) has no crews for several of the US’ “logistics” ships, a US Navy war in the Red Sea is impossible!
Possibly impossible west of Guam.
Ships need oil, bread/bean, various bullets and spare parts!
Will Lincoln go any closer than Gulf of Oman?”
Posted by: paddy | Aug 24 2024 15:09 utc | 17
I think that what you are describing is probably the fundamental reason Iran has delayed its counter attack.
Time is money and especially for ships that are on high alert, need constant resupply and psychologically unbalances the Allied forces..
The second reason , I believe, is that Iran got new war toys from Russia and it takes time to set them up and get trained cause they knw about 16 seconds after their attack is finished Israel will ATTACK AGAIN LIKE THE RABID DOG IT IS.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 24 2024 16:04 utc | 30

I ran, I am sorry “Iran” is only capable of asymmetric warfare; some people call it “Terrorism”. It is not capable of real waging a pitched battle. It is under monetary pressure to sell whatever it can to whoever will buy it: e.g., shahed drones to Russia. It sold out Hamas leader for money. She will never support Hamas as they are not shiite.
However, weak people get help from anywhere they can get. It is kind of a general rule!
Well, I don’t presume to suggest foreign policy changes to a regime of a country. I don’t know what possessed the leadership of Hamas to fall for it.
Let the religious freaks kill each other over stupid garbage! While both sides munch Iranian pistachios.
Iran is up for grabs by anyone who is not scared and capable of waging a pitched war.
That is just my opinion.

Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 16:14 utc | 32

That is just my opinion.
Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 16:14 utc | 33
Your opinion has been contradicted by historical fact.
There’s a point when opinion transitions to bullshit.
In your case, this is it.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 24 2024 16:20 utc | 34

Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 15:58 utc | 27
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This. The world has changed and the Western chauvinism of the 80s is a delusional relic today.
When I was growing up, “Made in China” meant junk. Today, no one in the West would have any standard of living without Chinese goods.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 24 2024 16:34 utc | 36

@33. “Iran is up for grabs by anyone who is not scared and capable of waging a pitched war.”
And who would that be?

Posted by: Fred777 | Aug 24 2024 16:38 utc | 38

@ love
I think they are referring to the 80s Iran/Iraq war in which the US supplied Saddam with training, spare parts, intelligence and chemical weapons. Some may even remember the smiling rummy shaking hands with him.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2003/9/4/when-rumsfeld-was-chummy-with-saddam
In the end though, it was a stalemate but sure did help the zionazis weaken 2 very strong adversaries.

Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 16:50 utc | 40

@37
Not so. Most of it is still trash, no matter who made by. If in the west people still made instead of using cheap labour, then they would not bother so much with that (because wages means price). Off-setting inflation caused by monetary expansion (debt or spending) with cheaper trash is a poor bargain in my opinion. Hence the ‘re-balancing’ that does not (cannot) happen without ‘middle class’ ‘slave labour’ or alternatively tech ‘no labour’ …which we are not at yet. The rest is much (self) ‘service’ economy.
Still, the US is wealthy by comparison to others…at least was…not that that is any consolation for those seeing their circumstance or opportunity reduced – high asset prices, perpetual debt, and lower income are not a kind recipe for younger generations.
At least the US has a large military to look after everyone :/

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 24 2024 16:57 utc | 42

>Where’d you read that, Hans?
https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ezme7i/houthi_striking_mt_sounion_earlier_today/
the owner, delta tankers, was added by ukraine to its list of “sponsors of war”:
https://nazk.gov.ua/en/news/the-status-of-five-greek-shipping-companies-was-restored-in-the-list-of-war-sponsors/#:%7E:text=Therefore%2C%20the%20NACP%20restored%20their,Minerva%20Marine%3B%20TMC%20Tankers%20LTD
Posted by: hans23 | Aug 24 2024 14:59 utc | 10
So, do you really think Ansar is trying to hurt Russia with its attacks on Imperialist shipping? Is that the conclusion you draw based on these links and your assertion that some of the targeted ships carry Russia oil “from time to time”?
I feel you’re being insincere, my good man.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 24 2024 17:05 utc | 44

I am not aware of these “historical facts” that you mention!
Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 16:28 utc | 36

Seems to. Heard about the Iran-Iraq war ?

Posted by: xiao pignouf | Aug 24 2024 17:10 utc | 46

@ ornot #43
It really depends on what you get. If you shop at Malwart, you are 100% correct. Their slogan should be ‘your source for cheap plastic crap made in China’. But they are very good with more industrial stuff. My pool pump has been performing flawlessly and very quiet. Previously, I went through 3 similar US-built ones in as many years.

Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 17:14 utc | 48

@ Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 16:50 utc | 41
Yes, the Iran-Iraq war was a good example of, “Let’s you and him fight!”
And I have read that the US-Iraq war in 1991 was to de-weaponize Iraq of the armaments it had accumulated in the war against Iran.

Posted by: Clever Dog | Aug 24 2024 17:20 utc | 50

RE: “Yemen builds their own missiles, drones and speedboats, they are close to hypersonics too. Although they undoubtedly used Iranian and Russian plans and know-how.”
Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 15:58 utc | 27
Possibly, but more probable that they get ready made kits, alter them as well as missiles and such from China/Russia. It’s more in China’s interest than Russia to insure security for China’s Djibouti port and well as Iranian oil. It’s a good practice to supply Yemen materially now, than later when attacks direct against China start to occur. Russia aids in supplies more out of vengeance (Justice?) than anything else as NATO arms Ukraine.
The West drones on about “Iran” and Houthis, but guessing the direct trace line would end in the East. It’s good for China.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 24 2024 17:27 utc | 52

Brief moment of sanity in the middle pages of the Telegraph.
The physical paper had this as the main front page story
Putin’s fragile grip on Russia has been shaken, says John Healey
Ukraine’s march into Kursk has sown doubt around president, Defence Secretary tells The Telegraph
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/23/putins-grip-on-russia-weakened-says-john-healey/
Another “big story” sayd (honest, not a joke)

Vladimir Putin’s popularity has fallen since Ukraine’s surprise invasion of Kursk, according to a Kremlin-linked research unit.
The poll by VTsIOM confirms unofficial analysis that the Ukrainian incursion has dented the Russian president’s usually rock-solid public support.
It showed that Putin’s popularity fell by 3.3 percentage points to 73.6 per cent within a fortnight of Ukraine’s Aug 6 attack, the first invasion of Russia since the Second World War.
This is the largest slip in support for Putin since….

Good to see the Telegraph hasn’t changed much.

Posted by: Mickey Droy | Aug 24 2024 17:37 utc | 54

Please elaborate? I am not aware of these “historical facts” that you mention!
Did they not get a severe beating by their “weak” neighbor to the East in last few months?
Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 16:28 utc | 36
*sigh* Oh, come on!
>Please elaborate? I am not aware of these “historical facts” that you mention!
– Iran – Iraq war: Iran proves it’s capable of large scale conventional warfare. Some call it a stalemate, I call it a victory. Saddam’s objectives were defeated. Iran emerged the stronger, Iraq’s doom was sealed.
– Attack on Ain Al Asad base: This was not an “asymmetric” attack. It was a direct, conventional military attack on a US military installation. Iran again proves it’s capable of “conventional” military engagements.
– The failure of the US military to directly attack Iran in the way it attacked Iraq in the last 40 years: This inability of the current ‘superpower’ to confront Iran directly proves that Iran’s conventional military power is sufficient to deter stronger military powers.
– Massive missile & drone attack on Israhell requiring the combined resources of 3 or more Western powers to repel/ mitigate: This is a modern *conventional* attack, not an asymmetric attack. It’s direct a direct application of military force.
Nothing asymmetric there.
– In addition to the above demonstrated *conventional* deterrent capabilities, Iran also operates a network of non-state allies each themselves capable of asymmetric warfare against the West.
Iran’s capabilities are conventional against most nations. It’s only considered “asymmetric” against the current superpower because of the apparent power disparity, but in actual fact it has demonstrated symmetric, conventional potential against many of it’s adversaries.
Other than the current superpowers (Russia, USA), there are few conventional powers that can contend against Iran.
>Did they not get a severe beating by their “weak” neighbor to the East in last few months?
No. You’re high. Lay off the crack.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 24 2024 17:42 utc | 56

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Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 24 2024 16:40 utc | 40
Who is this weak neighbor?
You already write such dumb stuff, being ambiguous does you no favors.”
Did you take geography in School? Or you perhaps never went to school. Perhaps it is that our schools have gotten so bad.
However, even for retards they can look up the map: it is just pictures! Unless one is blind as well!
So what is the case: poor schooling??
Why do we have total idiots posting here?
Maybe, all stupid people whose parents ran away from Russia are now part of Russian Mafia: who live in the stories of their homeland of good old days.
Moron!

Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 17:45 utc | 58

@hb #56
Great info thanks for the explanation. True, it is a media buzzword but for the purposes here I was thinking more on the terms of being able to bypass the iron dome and patriot AD. Iran has had 15x SoS for at least a year and the Houthis have or are nearing a Mach 8 missile.
https://sputnikglobe.com/20240314/houthis-go-hypersonic-how-ansar-allahs-advance-in-missile-tech-could-trigger-us-defeat-in-mideast-1117334551.html

Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 17:53 utc | 60

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 24 2024 17:43 utc | 58
No the word “American Trash” is used for something else!
American made stuff was never bad, Chinese stuff is bad!!!! But we have oligarchs running this country. The stupid people or unknown loyalties bought up the Moron Clinton, who was a hick from Arkansas. I miss our American industry!!
But we don’t have acid rains anymore, and we have no one dumping toxic stuff in our ground water. So China is welcome to killing its people who cannot speak out.
But I don’t think the Oligarchs and their cohorts were thinking of that–their motive was pure greed and lack of loyalty.

Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 17:54 utc | 62

Oil transit is the cartaroid artery of the global economy. Oh yes the Houthi actions are noteworthy. They are only a communication because they are a workaround. It’s a communication that is a reminder because everyone knows and has known for a long time the straits have more power than nuclear weapons if significant oil transits through them.
The Yemen strait is only partially strategic because there is a workaround. How and why oil tankers continue to transit it without insurance is a good question. The latest Houthi attack was on a tanker carrying 4x the oil of the Exxon Valdez. If all of that exits the tanker we are looking at a oil release into a marine environment that is catastrophic with no insurance.
From the begining oil transit was known as a economic weapon with no peer. Like nuclear weapons its effects on economies is mutually assured destruction. Removing any significant amount of oil from world markets renders the price of energy unaffordable. That means industry shuts down like BASF in Germany. Inexpensive energy was of great benefit to Germany. Their economy is more or less terminated.
Why? It doesn’t make sense? The enemy is Russia right?
No. The globalist view is all energy consumption is the enemy. Destroying nordstream is a great victory. Energy is to be distributed in a yet to be determined manner. Open sale of oil on global markets is the fundamental basis of all economies. Even agricultural economies is fertilizer has been petroleum based since the 60s. Open sale of oil on global markets is essentially a completely deregulated situation. The globalists have had various ideas how to change that carbon credits for instance
The problem is any regulation will have disastrous effects on economys and will be quickly reversed if voluntary.
This is why war is neccesary. How else to get the German people to destroy their own economy? Given enough time they will revolt demanding the return of cheap energy. It will be a while since they kick themselves in the nuts 108 times at any thing that might resemble national self preservation.
What is neccesary is physical force that can not be overcome preventing oil transit. Cheap precision conventional weapons provide that. This is what we are on the cusp of.
This has been known for a long time. The new generation of inexpensive precision drones and missiles means that most countries can manufacture them. If not they can be purchased or provided like in Yemen.
The only means of preventing use of precision conventional weapons at geophysical choke points was diplomacy and commitment to respect of other cultures and traditions. That has been actively abandoned because what is cessation of oil transit the end of industrial civilization for the masses not the elite and the subsequent depopulation that will result. Food production alone as a result of petrochemical reliance will be reduced by 2/3. That’s just one factor there are numerous. Every single drop of oil is consumed sustaining indu add trial civilization.
How important is this? Only as important as oxygen to the individual. As we see insurance is abandoned the risk of environmental disaster from spills ignored.
What has been assumed in both nuclear weapons and cessation of oil transit is that no one would want the end of industrial civilization and a depopulation event of say 90%. That is not the situation. We have very powerful individuals saying both large reduction in petroleum products and depopulation is desirable. As mentioned as it gets way the people will want it reversed if based on arbitrary policies. War and force deployed at the geophysical checkpoints is the only way. What do we witness? That very thing known about for so long being constructed in the present.
All military actions are mere flesh wounds compared to oil transit cessation. Oil transit is the arteries. Just as a choke hold stops oxygen to the brain the straits which oil transits through stop the primary source of industrial civilization if force is applied.
Is it unreasonable to believe this is desired? They just tried to get Iran to close Hormuz. The ongoing Palestinian genocide is a attempt to get Iran to close Hormuz out of frustration. All of the abandonment of diplomacy and the escalation of conflict and the proliferation of inexpensive precision has a readily observed probable outcome that we already see in a small manner in Yemen. Petroleum product consumption end and depopulation are openly discussed as desirable acts to achieve by the worlds elite.Is it conceivable that the probable outcome of cessation of oil transit is not known and desired by the elite. No it is not. The end of oil transit and the end of industrial civilization. What has changed is that many of the countries who control these straits have realized that oil transit cessation is not something that is not desired by the elites, that can be used as a bargaining chip but something that is actively sought and worked toward with all efforts by the elite.
As we see it won’t take much. Even a couple dozen squads with inexpensive precision weapons at the choke points will do it. The trick is to get the lemmings determined to jump off the cliff like nordstream and Germany. That determination is needed to ensure that the choke points remain closed for a period long enough to achieve goals. The emotions raised in the phenomena known as war provide that determination as well as the willingness to end industrial civilization with the suffering that will entail. These emotions are strongest when racial or religious hatred is involved so this is the fertile ground to implement goals. Diplomacy and tolerance work against the goal so these thing are actively destroyed through various means. As mere peasants we have only one defense and that is to practice compassion tolerance and understanding. That is indeed very difficult in the face of extreme provocation often involving threats to our existence or existence of those we love yet compassion tolerance and understanding are the only tools that do not fall into their trap.

Posted by: Dogowoof | Aug 24 2024 17:59 utc | 64

“But I don’t think the Oligarchs and their cohorts were thinking of that–their motive was pure greed and lack of loyalty.”
Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 17:54 utc | 63
I believe the above as the major causes but there are others 1. Over regulation and 2. Competition.
1..Much of the West’s govt regulations are ineffective, cumbersome, bureaucratic, time consuming -quintessentially counter productive.
2.Companies search fervently for lower costs as many red blooded men search fervently for females with large mammary glands. And, once your competition does it-ie go to China or other such low costs jurisdictions – you are forced to as well or the corp. will go bankrupt.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 24 2024 18:03 utc | 66

So let me get this clear in my head.
Prosperity Guardian is to use warships to defend tankers to and from Israel against aerial and seaborne drones and missiles. Wouldn’t the warships need to be really near the tankers to provide any sort of protection. And wouldn’t the warship be a vulnerable target too. How was this supposed to work?
It would seem that buying off the leadership would be really more effective and a lot cheaper. Or simply re-route Israel shipping to bypass Yemen. Or why can’t a tanker call on an intermediate non Israel port and then move on to Israel later or off load cargo to another vessel.
Who had the bright idea to pick this fight, and decide to fight it this way.
The Houthis support of Palestine seems tertiary or oblique and it is the western response that really empowers the Houthies instead of diminishing them.
Aren’t the Houthies in a civil war? How do they have time and energy for helping Palestine.

Posted by: count-rumford | Aug 24 2024 18:12 utc | 68

https://news.usni.org/2024/08/22/navy-could-sideline-17-support-ships-due-to-manpower-issues
Military Sealift Command has drafted a plan to remove the crews from 17 Navy support ships due to a lack of qualified mariners to operate the vessels across the Navy, USNI News learned.
The MSC “force generation reset” identified two Lewis and Clark replenishment ships, one fleet oiler, a dozen Spearhead-class Expeditionary Fast Transports (EPF) and two forward-deployed Navy expeditionary sea bases that would enter an “extended maintenance” period and have their crews retasked to other ships in the fleet, three people familiar with the plan told USNI News Thursday.
Based on the crew requirements on the platforms, sideling all the ships could reduce the civilian mariner demand for MSC by as many as 700 billets.
A defense official confirmed the basic outline of the plan to USNI News on Thursday. Two sources identified the forward-deployed sea bases as USS Lewis Puller (ESB-3), based in Bahrain in U.S. Central Command, and USS Herschel “Woody” Williams (ESB-4), based in Naval Support Activity Souda Bay, Greece, and operated in U.S. European and Africa Command.
A Navy official, when contacted by USNI News, acknowledged the service was working on a plan to retask civilian mariners but did not provide details.
The new effort, known informally as “the great reset” has yet to be adopted by the Navy and is awaiting approval from Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Lisa Franchetti, USNI News understands.

Posted by: Alexis Ricer | Aug 24 2024 18:14 utc | 70

I ran, I am sorry “Iran” is only capable of asymmetric warfare; some people call it “Terrorism”.
Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 16:14 utc | 33
The Iran-Iraq war (1980 to 1988) is a classic example of US warfare. The US did not fight Iran directly, but got a proxy to do it for them: Iraq, then ruled by Saddam Hussein. Long story short: after Saddam Hussein did the US’ dirty work against Iran, the Americans hung Saddam Hussein by the neck until dead. It’s a cautionary tale for all US allies: asking the US ambassador for permission on beforehand does not count.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 24 2024 18:32 utc | 72

@ passer #73
“But we have no opinion on the Arab-Arab conflicts, like your border disagreement with Kuwait. I was in the American Embassy in Kuwait during the late 1960s. The instruction we had during this period was that we should express no opinion on this issue and that the issue is not associated with America. James Baker has directed our official spokesmen to emphasize this instruction.”
– US Amb to Iraq April Glaspie

Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 18:53 utc | 74

Great and very funny collection of headlines. Maybe it still sells newsprint.
Thank you, -b, that was hysterical.

Posted by: Acco Hengst | Aug 24 2024 18:56 utc | 76

Nice on B
But can I add a layer or two?
When you can’t deter an enemy, when you can’t defeat an enemy, that has a name.
You have been defeated by the enemy!
And as usual, when all else fails the mighty US just goes for the sanctions.
Feels nice, the rest hasn’t worked (and won’t work) you can say you’re doing something that will (surely, likely, one day) work.
So….
https://www.state.gov/sanctions-on-houthi-procurement-network/
And if not now, soon enough the noose around china will be, once again see below, will be tightened.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us-imposes-sanctions-400-more-targets-aiding-russias-war-effort-2024-08-23/
Now, china is not stupid and knows “we’re next” and the US is hell-bound on forcing china to pick a side, guess which….
Me thinks the US hasn’t thought its cunning plan through…
In fact I would be tempted to say, in a most politically incorrect manner nowadays, that they must have gone full retard.
Even a minor handicap, say 90% brain loss, should leave enough for those idiots to suspect that they’re precipitating things on a road not to the least of their likening…

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 19:02 utc | 78

Bravo! Best post ever! Adding, one thing not mentioned much is that an Iranian blockade of the Hormuz might be like the one in the Red Sea. IE its the Isra Hegemons ships that are being interdicted. And NOT China, Russia and the unaligned liners.

Posted by: Ralph Conner | Aug 24 2024 19:08 utc | 80

What is the oath taken by the military?
Oath of Enlistment – Army Values
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed …
What does the Constitution say?
Article I, Section 8, Clause 11:
[The Congress shall have Power . . . ] To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water; . . .

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 24 2024 19:14 utc | 82

Moron!
Posted by: Victor | Aug 24 2024 17:45 utc | 59
Iraq is to the West of Iran. Not East.
You must get lost a lot.
Simple test – Please ID for me your right hand and left hand?
Moron
Moron

Posted by: Angelo | Aug 24 2024 19:21 utc | 84

Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 19:03 utc | 80
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Since when does Saudi Arabia need protection from the US of A. They have BRICS+ now, that’s enough. I think the gringos are desperate for control but they can no longer get it.

Posted by: AI | Aug 24 2024 19:34 utc | 86

I won’t go into the constheory that Iraq 2 was to obtain the secrets buried with Hammurabi.

Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 19:38 utc | 88

Russia needs to stop whining and beat the shit full out and decapitate the enemy.
The west does not negotiate. It sees negotiations as a sign of weakness and will not comply with anything and Russia will.
It is now clear the US will not accept anything except a complete vassal status for the rest of the planet. It is delusional and given it’s “classified nuclear doctrine” be very afraid. If you don’t know what is their doctrine how can you plan for it? And can such an existential document for the whole of humanity be classified?

Posted by: cafe_con_leche5 | Aug 24 2024 19:44 utc | 90

@mj72 #90
Just as the psychos in Occupied Palestine have no qualms about taking the rest of the planet with them, the dems don’t care about anything except ‘beating trump’. Keep in mind, they are all on the zionists payroll with few exceptions.

Posted by: motorslug | Aug 24 2024 20:00 utc | 92

Russia needs to stop whining and beat the shit full out and decapitate the enemy.
The west does not negotiate. It sees negotiations as a sign of weakness and will not comply with anything and Russia will.
It is now clear the US will not accept anything except a complete vassal status for the rest of the planet. It is delusional and given it’s “classified nuclear doctrine” be very afraid. If you don’t know what is their doctrine how can you plan for it? And can such an existential document for the whole of humanity be classified?
Posted by: cafe_con_leche5 | Aug 24 2024 19:44 utc | 91
I think we all feel the same way, cafe. However, Putin and and Russians generally are not like us. They resist any emotional responses, seek objective perspectives and always consider the long term in their calculations. Aka, they aren’t like the west. So, it can be difficult at particular junctures in the process to understand the whole strategy.
We must remember they are the only country that has now repeatedly, openly defied US imperialism successfully. That’s no small thing.
They are confronting a totally irrational, nihilistic dying power that is capable of anything, that will literally repeatedly shoot itself in the foot and call it victory.
It’s a tricky deal.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 24 2024 20:19 utc | 94

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 19:48 utc | 92
“SpaceX to return Boeing’s Starliner astronauts from space next year, NASA says”
“And mighty Britannia it seems cannot even float a boat now let alone rule the waves.”
First of all, I have to admit, I prefer you Australians to Smooth Talking Americans..
Has Australia ever tried to get a man into orbit???
Have us British..even with Concordski???
I have layed on the top of a boat in the Norfolk Broads, and various other places in the world, even South of the Equator – where the moon kind of goes upside down..
And I have seen this Space junk in the sky…
I have also seen it faked underwater before AI..
Has the UK, Australia, Russia or Even China voluteered to Rescue These Americans in Space??

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 24 2024 20:40 utc | 96

Posted by: tonyopmoc | Aug 24 2024 20:40 utc | 97
I believe there is at least one Soyuz capsule docked at the ISS that they could use for emergency evacuation.

Posted by: a stone | Aug 24 2024 20:53 utc | 98

Can the USN and RN really be that disconnected?
I mean if they were really concerned about vulnerable cargo ships and tankers transiting the Red Sea and the straits, then why o why are they not convoying them through the area………..??
The Houthis seems to be able to engage cargo ships and tankers at their own leisure, and individually too.

Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 24 2024 21:10 utc | 100