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August 29, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-207
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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In a recent poll, 47% of Israeli citizens thought it it was OK for IDF soldiers to rape Palestinian prisoners. Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Aug 29 2024 8:41 utc | 1 Posted by: Anton Gorbatow | Aug 29 2024 8:41 utc | 1 Too bad for Palestinians then, no one will come to save them. The most they can hope for is an economic collapse in Israel, as the last of them is pushed into the Sinai or buried under rubble. On the bright side after that the Israel/Palestine problem will finally be over. Posted by: Phariah | Aug 29 2024 9:32 utc | 2 Is Qatar, an informant to the US of A, not only in the Middle East but also as a ‘tactical’ foreign actor capable of influencing policy implementation and outcomes in the European Union? Posted by: AI | Aug 29 2024 9:38 utc | 3 Posted by: Phariah | Aug 29 2024 9:32 utc | 2 Posted by: laguerre | Aug 29 2024 9:42 utc | 4 Posted by: laguerre | Aug 29 2024 9:42 utc | 4 Posted by: badjoke | Aug 29 2024 10:14 utc | 5 From all indications a significant plurality of Israelis have left the human race. Between the Yahwehist elements within the Old Testicles and the machinations of those rabbinical elements which have created and still embrace the Babylonian Talmud’s dictum that the “Chosen” are the only real humans; literally millions of those people have become something OTHER than human. Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 29 2024 10:42 utc | 6 Blessed Be the Peacemakers, for they shall know peace in their souls and in their eternal spirits as emanations of Creator. Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 29 2024 10:47 utc | 7 On the bright side after that the Israel/Palestine problem will finally be over. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2024 11:37 utc | 8 The weak proxies in the middle east are colonialist UK, France, Germany, Spain. Many small targets from UN radars, navy ships, other ships, small military outposts in Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Red Sea, Persian Gulf. Posted by: Jonny Law | Aug 29 2024 12:13 utc | 10 Occurred to me this morning that I have been using the wrong term. Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 12:13 utc | 11 Evil consumes all, and when it has nothing left to consume, it consumes itself. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2024 12:14 utc | 12 -“- Josephus, on the destruction of the second temple.” HaHa!
It would be a month or more before the Limited Hangout was published, the news that Israel (and MI6 and the CIA (?))
Couldn’t Israel imagine a better cover-up? Ha ! Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 12:38 utc | 14 @Posted by: canuck | Aug 29 2024 12:28 utc | 13 Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 12:46 utc | 15 @ librul #14 Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 13:09 utc | 16 @Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 13:09 utc | 16 Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 13:13 utc | 17 Note: false flags ? Posted by: Exile | Aug 29 2024 13:14 utc | 18 Posted by: AI | Aug 29 2024 9:38 utc | 3 Posted by: KingCobra | Aug 29 2024 13:16 utc | 19 @Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 12:46 utc | 15 Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 13:18 utc | 20 I did not realize before today that the primary reason that Osama bin Laden gave for attacking the US on 9/11 was Palestine. He wrote a ‘letter to America’ which explains all of his reasoning; I had not noticed it before now, if indeed it was widely published. In any case, here are the relevant excerpts pertaining to Palestine and I put a link to the entire letter at the end. (The source has titled this “Full text”, but again, I am only quoting some of it below.) I have no interest in discussing 9/11 per se, but only put this here as it pertains to Palestine. Posted by: teri | Aug 29 2024 13:25 utc | 21 Posted by: KingCobra | Aug 29 2024 13:16 utc | 19 Posted by: AI | Aug 29 2024 13:38 utc | 22 I did not realize before today that the primary reason that Osama bin Laden gave for attacking the US on 9/11 Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 13:42 utc | 23 @Posted by: Exile | Aug 29 2024 13:14 utc | 18
Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 13:50 utc | 24 Israel was carrying out raids across the occupied West Bank and Abbas was playing with his fiends in KSA… Posted by: Newbie | Aug 29 2024 14:06 utc | 25 @ teri Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 14:20 utc | 26 to Canuck. Every time I begin to think that your knowledge on some subjects might make your presence worthwhile, you spout out some vulgar vicious hate speech. If you cannot show respect for your fellow flies, maybe you could think about showing some respect for your host who goes to great lengths to make this forum available. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Aug 29 2024 14:27 utc | 27 From live feed Palestine Chronicle: Posted by: Exile | Aug 29 2024 14:48 utc | 28 to Canuck. Every time I begin to think that your knowledge on some subjects might make your presence worthwhile, you spout out some vulgar vicious hate speech. If you cannot show respect for your fellow flies, maybe you could think about showing some respect for your host who goes to great lengths to make this forum available. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 29 2024 15:22 utc | 29 Josephus, on the destruction of the second temple. Posted by: ariadna | Aug 29 2024 15:23 utc | 30 @Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Aug 29 2024 14:27 utc | 27 Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 15:32 utc | 31 @27 Posted by: Ornot | Aug 29 2024 15:52 utc | 32 “All that happens is that the anxious, fearful soul is freed from all anxiety and fear, and begins to peck at the dead and slackening souls, to line up in battle, for martyrdom is the objective equivalent of life. We have no life, no glory, no history, no honor without the martyrs, and no present, no past, and no future without them.” Posted by: Ornot | Aug 29 2024 16:17 utc | 33 @Exile | Aug 29 2024 13:14 utc | 18
3) Bombing of Norwegian government building and killing 69 young Labour party politicians 22. July 2011 at Utøya summer camp. Reward: Stoltenberg captured. Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 29 2024 16:21 utc | 34 Pepe Escobar has a posting up at The Cradle Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 29 2024 16:43 utc | 35 “Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma, a specialist and translator in Hebrew media Posted by: Ornot | Aug 29 2024 16:45 utc | 36 I was unable to link to the story, but Middle East Eye has an article up about the EU calling for a Gaza ceasefire to allow Palestinian children to receive polio vaccinations. Palestinians should be leery of this for a couple of reasons: (1) Israel is fanatically determined to murder all Palestinians, especially children, and if Israel is allowed anywhere near the vaccines it will be hard to resist poisoning them in order to kill more kids. And (2) polio vaccination campaigns have been used before by the USA to disguise military operations as with Osama Bin Ladin and a few months ago Israel used a food aid truck to hide a military operation in Gaza. Posted by: Chas | Aug 29 2024 16:49 utc | 37 @Posted by: Chas | Aug 29 2024 16:49 utc | 37 Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 16:52 utc | 38 Here is Chris Hedges recent interview with a top historian on WW1 and the fall of the multiethnic Empire and its roots of the current Middle East conflict: https://youtu.be/f9SPEbIcK2c?si=JS-XzSPcAFMku9Bj. Despite his 1/2 hour of obfuscating Hedges 2 questions on Zionism’s role I found it interesting. Nationalisn, an ideas espoused by the Young Turks, was clearly a European concept by the cabal of dubious origins. Ii must say, it is quite reminiscent of various the hodge podge of color revolutions In recent history., in fact the esteemed historian even cites an inexplicable uprising in Adana. I would also like to point out the famously isolationist US did not enter the War until 2 years after the genocide which as saving the Armenians was a cause Nellie of the shift in American sentiment in that era. Does any of this seem like an all to familiar pattern to anyone or is it just me? Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 29 2024 16:54 utc | 39 Newbie 25 – having recently visited Ireland, both in the Republic and the occupied six counties, I can attest to the numerous Palestinian flags flying from homes and businesses and farms. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 29 2024 17:10 utc | 40 Eddie Jaku was a good man. Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 17:18 utc | 41 The attack on the USS Liberty by the IDF in 1967 was an intended false flag gone array…….dozens of USN sailors and support personnel were murdered and wounded in the attacks. Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 29 2024 17:19 utc | 42 Catching up with: Posted by: Ornot | Aug 29 2024 17:23 utc | 43 From live feed; Posted by: Exile | Aug 29 2024 17:24 utc | 44 @Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 17:18 utc | 41
https://sydneyjewishmuseum.com.au/exhibition/into-the-heartless-light-of-darkness/ Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 17:25 utc | 45 @Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 29 2024 17:19 utc | 42
https://stationhypo.com/2016/06/08/remembering-the-crew-of-the-uss-liberty-agtr-5/ Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 17:35 utc | 46 @ librul #41 Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 17:54 utc | 47 @ Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2024 11:37 utc | 8 Posted by: Cabe | Aug 29 2024 18:02 utc | 48 I like your last paragraph cabe, too many people forget that. Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 18:28 utc | 49 Posted by: Cabe | Aug 29 2024 18:02 utc | 48 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2024 18:32 utc | 50 “to Canuck. Every time I begin to think that your knowledge on some subjects might make your presence worthwhile, you spout out some vulgar vicious hate speech. If you cannot show respect for your fellow flies, maybe you could think about showing some respect for your host who goes to great lengths to make this forum available.” Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 12:38 utc | 14 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 29 2024 18:56 utc | 53 “Dear Mr Lacy, I hereby inform you that canuk is known for spouting quite vitriolic noises (if one so desires they can be called speech) Can we get back to this being the Palestine thread? Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 29 2024 19:24 utc | 55 Posted by: Cabe | Aug 29 2024 18:02 utc | 48 Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 29 2024 19:24 utc | 56 The United States and the Ottoman Empire were never at war during World War One. The Ottoman Empire broke off diplomatic relations with the US when the US declared war on Germany in the spring of 1917, but war between the two countries did not result. Posted by: Lysias | Aug 29 2024 19:31 utc | 57 @ canuck re; profanity Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 19:34 utc | 58 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 29 2024 18:32 utc | 50 Posted by: simon crow | Aug 29 2024 19:41 utc | 59 @ turk152 #56 Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 19:47 utc | 60 @ Turk 152 | Aug 29 2024 19:24 utc | 56 Posted by: Cabe | Aug 29 2024 19:47 utc | 61 RE: LIHOP on 10/7 or “failure of imagination/intelligence” – https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/12/02/klox-d02.html
A rather big piece of information, but not sourced. Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 20:04 utc | 62 Posted by: Lysias | Aug 29 2024 19:31 utc | 57 Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 29 2024 20:04 utc | 63 A rather big piece of information, but not sourced. Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 20:10 utc | 64 @Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 20:10 utc | 64
Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 20:12 utc | 65 Posted by: Cabe | Aug 29 2024 19:47 utc | 61 Posted by: simon crow | Aug 29 2024 20:46 utc | 66 Posted by: Cabe | Aug 29 2024 19:47 utc | 61 Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 29 2024 20:51 utc | 67 heads up Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 29 2024 21:06 utc | 68 Not just UK, happens in Aussieland too: Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 21:13 utc | 69 michaelj72 @ 68 Posted by: simon crow | Aug 29 2024 21:29 utc | 70 “alleged israeli strike” Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 29 2024 21:29 utc | 71 “The compulsion to lie when literally everyone knows you are lying is the defining political pathology of our time…” Posted by: motorslug | Aug 29 2024 21:43 utc | 72 Well, shit. The PA (the governing body of the West Bank) is arresting Palestinians it accuses of being “fighters” and spreading rumors or making accusations about other Palestinian people on behalf of the Israelis. The PA is rightly hated; they have worked in tandem with the Israeli military for decades. Posted by: teri | Aug 29 2024 22:06 utc | 73 Today’s article from PCR references b many times: Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 29 2024 22:36 utc | 74 Polio vaccines for kids, imagine if they are actually for birth sterilization. No one would see the evidence for years Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 22:47 utc | 75 @Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 29 2024 22:36 utc | 74 Posted by: librul | Aug 29 2024 22:50 utc | 76 michaelj72 | Aug 29 2024 21:06 utc | 68 …. Posted by: Cynic | Aug 29 2024 23:09 utc | 77 After Richard Medhirst, now a second British journalist has been arrested for protesting the Gaza genocide: Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 29 2024 23:17 utc | 78 Hi calling British bobbys (police). Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 29 2024 23:26 utc | 79 Since andy on a previous thread made this nice AI song from my poem “Gaza’s not a bug but a feature” Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 29 2024 23:33 utc | 80 The polio circulating in Gaza is a vaccine-induced wild type2 virus that was caused because of mistakes the WHO made when it chose its vaccine guidelines in 2016. By 2020, cases of polio were happening in many countries in Africa, as well as Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran. These cases are exactly the same type as is now in Gaza. The WHO, under a Bill Gates initiative (anyone surprised to see that name?), chose to leave the Type 2 virus out of its vaccine – thus leaving the recipients of the vaccine unprotected from that strain – and now the type 2 has mutated and spread on its own. Posted by: teri | Aug 29 2024 23:38 utc | 81 https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/29/israel-airstrike-aid-convoy-gaza Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 30 2024 0:22 utc | 82 Chain of strikes on southern Lebanon, low flights over Beirut. West bank series of raids. Posted by: Ornot | Aug 30 2024 0:27 utc | 83 the Western powers have lost control of the narrative; now trying to suppress the pro-Palestinian movements and the anti-war movements against their illegal and immoral support of israel’s continued and increasing genocide, ethnic cleansing, and crimes against humanity….. Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 30 2024 1:03 utc | 84 Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 29 2024 23:17 utc | 78 Posted by: JAB | Aug 30 2024 1:07 utc | 85 There goes your faith in crypto along with your ‘Western Values’: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 30 2024 1:13 utc | 86 @231, @248. Posted by: paddy | Aug 30 2024 1:52 utc | 87 what a pathetic and vile nation israel is Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 30 2024 2:10 utc | 88 If Obama has got dirt on Joe Biden to force him to pursue a genocidal war against Europe in Ukraine and a genocidal war against Islam in West Asia, how much more leverage will Obama have to harrass Harris the slave trader? Unlimited, I would think. Posted by: Giyane | Aug 30 2024 2:11 utc | 89 Expanding the Battlefield – Resistance Roundup – Day 328< Posted by: Exile | Aug 30 2024 3:31 utc | 91 Teri@2206 Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 30 2024 4:25 utc | 92 Canuck@54, in Britain in the gang culture a cunt is a familiar term. It means several things. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 30 2024 5:05 utc | 93 Re: Quislings
Posted by: Exile | Aug 30 2024 8:56 utc | 94 So the (dis)information, even the alternative pro-Palestinian one (which continues to talk about 40 thousand victims) unwittingly betrays itself. If there were previously over 2 million (N.B. 2.2) inhabitants and now they have all crowded into an area of 41 km2 and there are 30-34 thousand per km2, as The United Nation warn, then in total they are 30,000 x 41 = 1,230,000 to 34,000 x 41 = 1,394,000. That is, 800 thousand to 1 million are missing, which are (subtracted the 200/300 thousand remained in the North) the exterminated ones estimated by me. Posted by: Cumino | Aug 30 2024 9:18 utc | 95 Cumino 95 Posted by: Giyane | Aug 30 2024 10:00 utc | 96 Cumino, Posted by: Exile | Aug 30 2024 11:11 utc | 97 Posted by: canuck | Aug 29 2024 19:15 utc | 54 Posted by: AI | Aug 30 2024 12:04 utc | 98 to Canuck. Post # 9. top “librul”. Ditto buddy. I think you missed the point. to aristodemos, Arch Bungle, Jane, Miguel72, and especially the Miffedmicrobiologist, thanks for the laughs. Vulgarity is not the same as logical or factual argument. Sayonara. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Aug 30 2024 12:57 utc | 99 The west must realize that’s jews completely run and control it. Posted by: ryanggg | Aug 30 2024 13:13 utc | 100 |
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