I just reread my post about Netanyahu trying to cover his ass with “plausible deniability”.
[ Posted by: librul | Aug 18 2024 14:54 utc | 11 ]
The final line needs serious amending.
After Netanyahu made it clear how much he didn’t know he responded to their demands for an inquiry
by telling them no.
Netanyahu attempted to tred the fine line of giving himself distance from the failures of Oct 7th
and not appearing to be irresponsible and neglectful. After failing misreably he denied the Spotter Families
what they wanted most, a commission of inquiry over Oct 7th (intentional failures or infinite incompetence – whichever).

Posted by: librul | Aug 19 2024 15:25 utc | 103

@102
All the western media is citing “Hamas” but Quds and Qassam made the apparent claim. Neither is understood to be directly under Hamas, especially in west bank. That is to say they are understood to (and designed to) act independently. Deif is no stranger to suicide attacks.
So basically western media is the propaganda.
“Israel” is faced with a multitude of opponents, some structurally interelated and others not.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 19 2024 15:40 utc | 105

Liburl,
Why are martyrdom attacks giving-up-the-moral-high-ground ?

Posted by: Exile | Aug 19 2024 16:29 utc | 107

“It is indeed strange that the criticism on the use of sword by Muslims emanates from those whose hands are soiled in the blood of countless innocent human beings, by those who exult in the techniques of homicide, who have depersonalised warfare to such an extent that millions of innocent men and women are put to death and numberless are thrown into concentration camps and flogged with steel rods and ox-hide whips, and all this is done without any qualm of conscience. ”
https://www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/muslim/019_smt.html
And yet if you fall into hatred and destruction, the enemy has won
https://www.abuaminaelias.com/do-not-desire-to-fight-the-enemies-of-islam/
Said otherwise:
“Do not shake hands with a player from a tyrannical entity, for your hand will be stained with the blood of innocents that fills every fiber of their being. In that moment, you become a part of the painful story, where justice drowns in a sea of ​​oppression and cruelty. Keep your hands clean from disgrace, and let our hearts beat with truth and humanity, rejecting all that tarnishes the essence of dignity and justice.”

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 19 2024 17:17 utc | 109

Archetypex 108
It’s Qisas , Jewish eye for eye and tooth for tooth. Oct 7 kidnappings of Israelis by Hamas was qisas.
It is so unbelievable that we find ourselves in the West with politicians supporting genocide.
In the absence of International Law , there is only Qisas. Like it or not, the PTB have abdicated their only duty, to uphold the law.
It therefore falls on the general public to do what politicians have been bribed not to do , by funds from banking interest.
I can’t see any way that We could ever exceed the injustice and violence of Israel ‘s and USUK ‘s genocide, so not much chance of committing of injustice according to Allah’s command, by exceeding what has been done to us.
Open season for USUKIS politicians whovsuppirtvthe genocide and accept Israeli bribes. And careful study of who did what and who said what in Israel. There must be no injustice.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 19 2024 19:09 utc | 111

@110
I don’t think Al-Qassam cares much for US politics. I don’t think Al-Qassam expects anything constructive from the US ever :
“Al-Qassam Brigades published🔥”
https://t.me/gazanewsnow2021/155221
I think they want to take the conflict to the “Israelis” and spoil their show.
But I cannot say for sure, so it is good you follow another line of thought, because if not who would be studying that related picture.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 19 2024 20:20 utc | 113

How fucking convenient in it’s timing.
I smell a rat.
10,000 to 1 the Tel Aviv Affair will figure in more than one speech
at the convention.
Posted by: librul | Aug 19 2024 18:29 utc | 110
Yes. It stinks to high heaven. However, has Hamas claimed responsibility? If they have, then nothing to see here – just another bungled act of self-sacrificial passion …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 20 2024 3:45 utc | 115

Israel and it’s mafia (AIPAC/ADL) would care more, and benefit far more, about American politics (DNC convention) than Hamas,
so that makes the timing (hours before the DNC convention) of the bombing in Tel Aviv suspicious.
Also, who took credit? A Hamas website? Good luck with that.
It is war time, not a good time for coordinating the activities of an organization.
** Lines of communication would light up within Hamas to verify who, if anyone, did it and who ordered it. **
That is big.
A reason unto itself for Israel to have a false-flag (and one where only the bomber died). Get the Hamas leadership in Dubai to
open communication lines, so they can be observed.
Also, the Palestinians are trying for international support, such terrorist bombings does not help get international support.

Posted by: librul | Aug 20 2024 12:34 utc | 117

Telegram @LordOfWar has a good one:
https://t.me/llordofwar/367844
I understand that responding at a time and place of your choosing puts your enemy off balance, but now that the stinking corpse of a ceasefire deal that Blinken has been hauling around like a dead man for months has finally fallen off the truck, I believe Iran looks just plain stupid.
At some point nobody will even be able to connect an Iranian reprisal to the assassination of the Hamas negotiator on their soil.
BTW same logic applies to Russia. Time to shit or get off the pot – where are the massive missile and airstrikes on Kviv, Sumy, Lviv, etc.?

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 20 2024 19:56 utc | 119

Egypt, like all others, is in BRICS for economic reasons, it needs to diversify its FDI and seek investment in infrastructure & industrial, agriculture, energy projects that the West are generally not interested in funding. Politically it wants to sit in both chairs, not wanting to upset either. Ditto UAE, it wants to invest its wealth wherever returns are best for them, BRICS membership gives them more options than US financial instruments, but politically/militarily the UAE is on opposite sides to Russia in Sudan.
Russia flipped sides in Sudan, now supporting the original govt forces, possibly, or probably because they have indicated they wish to actually govern and administer the country and provide stability. The RSF have shown no such interest, just occupying and controlling mining sites and transport routes for resource extraction to sell to highest bidders.
Egypt and Ethiopia also have long-standing dispute over the Nile water, but with both in BRICS, it was an achievement to get them to sit at the same table on any topic.
As planetary resources deplete, there is a growing shift of the global money/trade system for capital to invest in hard, tangible assets and move away from investing capital into financial instruments, US treasuries etc. The US keeps financing terror groups, colour revolutions, sabotaging infrastructure, social unrest etc in places where BRICS countries are investing. Hence the Bangladesh colour revolution, to put a spanner in the works for both India and China’s projects in the BRI.
BRICS are not an anti-West organisation outside of mutual economic interests, although it attracts more countries with anti-West sentiment.
BRICS do offer better deals, loans for example, that dont have harsh “conditions” attached like the IMF or World Bank. Sovereignty means making their own decisions about everything.
As tensions rise in the coming years, I suspect both-chairs Nations like Egypt, Turkiye etc will be forced to choose a side, but not there yet.

Posted by: Rain | Aug 21 2024 3:19 utc | 121

Jerusalem, Israel, today:
Five arrested as Ultra-Orthodox protesters rally against draft in Jerusalem
A month ago:
Ultra-Orthodox protest against order to enlist in Israeli military turns violent in Jerusalem
It is beyond parody. Instead of protests against Putin in Russia,
what happens is protests against the draft in Israel.

Posted by: Passerby | Aug 21 2024 11:00 utc | 123

Passerby 123
Why would an Orthodox Jew want to die for a Ukrainian Jewish Nazi Party?
They did enough damage last time round in WW2. This is definitely not cowardice, any more than a Muslim refusing to die for Obama’s Darsh killing Muslims.
Likud’s enemies are practising socialists, practising Orthodox Jews , practising Christians and practising Muslims. Has it really taken 9 months of this for the world to understand what’s happening in Israel/ Palestine?

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 21 2024 12:11 utc | 125

Dearest b,
The time is coming.
This time Iran will answer with full power, no more taking care about the silly western rules of engagement. Ansarullah and Hesbollah will help, also all the others all over the middleeast.
Israel, the evil entity will be destroyed.
Let it be burried under the sands.
It is the end of the bloodthirsty entity.
From my side, I have beaten quite a few of them this summer. those who have dared to travel to my part of the world

Posted by: stranger | Aug 21 2024 21:26 utc | 127

Tom_Q_Collins 127
I compared USUKIS Islamists in Syria who attacked civilian Muslims and drove them out of their houses, or used them as human shields in their houses with the IDf in Gaza now.
The political agenda of the genociders in Palestine and the Islamists in Syria is the same in both cases, the creating of a Greater Israel or Jewish Empire.
This is the political agenda of the US Neocons and European Atlantacists and the Revisionist Jewish Zionists who were Ukrainian Nazis in WW2 and who were given refuse in the US.
This is an external, foreign
political agenda to exterminate the Palestinians in Faza and the West Bank. It makes no sense to Jews living in Israel who came to Israel with a Socialist political agenda against obvious trends leaning towards Fascism in the post war US and Europe. The Socialist Jews feared the militancy of Thatcherism in the Falklands and in Yugoslavia and of constant US wars in Vietnam , almost every where else.
It makes no sense to practising Christians moving to the Holy Land for religious faith. It makes no sense to Orthodox Jews doing the same. No, the political agenda of the Israeli genocide comes from outside Israel, in USUKIS.
Going back to my point, it was USUKIS that did a colour revolution in West
Asia called the Arab Spring, which was propagandised as a spontaneous revolution against Western dictatorships.
When it became clear what the Arab Spring was, in other words a substitution of power control with 24/7 spying as a means of political control and Islamist Crazies in exchange for the old colonial use of Hard dictators with torture prisons, then I as a Muslim totally opposed it.
I suspect that as a US citizen you have drunk the USUKIS kool-aid that the totalitarian wars of USUKIS wete
welcomed by all Muslims, and now, in Israel the exact same propaganda being pushed daybed night by the likes of Alistair Crooke that the majority of Israelis welcome the political agenda of the Fascist Globalists.
Fuck me. Do these Fascist shills forget that we have lived through their mental sewage since Yugoslavia in 2008 in my case?
It’s very obvious to me that this is USUKIS shill tripe and that a very large majority of Israelis deeply and fundamentally the imposition of Genocide from political forces outside candidate alien to Israel. Especially when the Israeli Globalist millibillionaires have buggered off to their safe havens leaving ordinary Israelis to do the genocide for them.
People, especially people who move to a Holy Land, have principles, not political agendas. But you cowboy redneck Yankee boys and girls despise little peoples’ principles when they oppose and obstruct US omnivorous imperialism

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 22 2024 2:24 utc | 129

132
In the world I inhabit billionaire corporations commission opinion polls and surveys in order to create can illusion that most people think Persil washes whiter than other washing powders and most people think the actions of the Global elites are majority supported by ordinary people.
It seems I inhabit a different psychological.planet to those respected barflies who when they read about a pro genocide fucking opinion poll from a world-weary old political dog like Crooke, instantly believe it.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 22 2024 2:44 utc | 131

Apologies Yugoslavia 1998 not 2008.
When USUKIS anti- Communist brainwashed Al Qaida Islamists were moved from fighting Russia in Afghanistan to fighting Russia in Europe. USSR as was.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 22 2024 2:57 utc | 133

Dearest b,
The time is coming.
This time Iran will answer with full power, no more taking care about the silly western rules of engagement. Ansarullah and Hesbollah will help, also all the others all over the middleeast.
Israel, the evil entity will be destroyed.
Let it be burried under the sands.
It is the end of the bloodthirsty entity.
From my side, I have beaten quite a few of them this summer. those who have dared to travel to my part of the world
Posted by: stranger | Aug 21 2024 21:26 utc | 128

What delusional schizophrenia looks like. Like, off with the faeries.

Posted by: truthiness | Aug 22 2024 3:09 utc | 135

I believe Iran looks just plain stupid.
BTW same logic applies to Russia.
Time to shit or get off the pot
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Aug 20 2024 19:56 utc | 119
I wish both the very best, especially the people, but these governments are totally unreliable and impotent when it really counts. They aren’t alone either. What good are the ME kingdoms/nations – useless scumbags they are. Gaza almost 1 year on genocide and occupation 75 years all up, and the SMO over 2.5 years after twiddling thumbs for 9 years while ukrainian/russian people were terrorized and murdered and they still are today!
So much for the lies about ‘powerful russia’ able to crush Ukraine in days or weeks if they really wanted to.
Incompetent selfish cowards I suspect.

Posted by: truthiness | Aug 22 2024 3:26 utc | 137

I heard an example of totally fake USUKIS “””” News “””” recently , just as an example of USUKIS fake narratives.
The gay Community in Europe has been told that Putin has given Russian Police powers to beat up and imprison gay people in Russia. It’s probably true, but why would Putin do that?
Only because the strong presence of a Gay movement in Russia is obviously a Soros style colour revolution form of foreign political subversion.
Foreign agents of any kind are not welcome in Russia precisely because of their use of lies and propaganda to undermine Russia’s stability .
Israel’s lies to its own people about the hundreds of Israelis killed by its own army on Oct 7 is in itself a Soros style propaganda subversion.
Netanyahu is using fake Wartime conditions to justify delaying the exposure of those lies and those cold bloodied Hannibal murders.
This is full-blooded Fascism to manipulate public opinion.
The ends do not justify the means when Foreign Globalists are creating the Israeli Genocide, serving only the interests of foreign Globalists.
Even if nobody set a foot in Israel to fight the IDF , the Globalists’ lies need to be exposed, and their dirty little sympathisers like Alistair Crooke exposed as Soros style manipulators in the shekel of Foreign Globalists.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 22 2024 3:40 utc | 139

Putin has given Russian Police powers to beat up and imprison gay people in Russia. It’s probably true, but why would Putin do that?
Giyane | Aug 22 2024 3:40 utc | 141
I suggest don’t believe it without hard evidence , Putin is no murdering tyrant and he doesn’t care less if people are gay. He’s not a fanatic like Peterau1. The issue is only one of “promoting” the lifestyle to innocents and in the public domain – ie no gay parades etc. Have some ‘decency’ please.
I recall a few years back Putin telephoned Elton John who was complaining about new gay laws in Russia … he was extremely respectful acknowledging all people have a right to live their lives as they see fit. etc etc. the foreign interference is another matter and doesn’t to throw everyday Russian gays into prison. They have their legal rights the same as everyone else in Russia under the law. afaik – frankly don’t care that much about how russia runs it’s society, that is their business not mine. regards

Posted by: truthiness | Aug 22 2024 3:57 utc | 141