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August 16, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-195

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

Of interest:

Posted by b on August 16, 2024 at 09:02 UTC | Permalink
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https://actionabletruth.substack.com/p/blue-shirts-october-7

Posted by: dez | Aug 16 2024 9:07 utc | 1

dez 1
Digital media is as digital media does. Are US actors not on strike because their voices have been synthesised?
Whatever is in this film did not occur on Oct 7. Jesus AS asks why the Jews cannot understand his teachings about the need to Worship of God.
You glance at the sky and you instantly know if it’s going to rain or not.
One glance at this film and you know instantly it’s tripe made in the US.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 16 2024 9:49 utc | 2

sputnik news posted article today….huge huge huge arms sales to Israel…50 planes vehicles shells etc…could be enough to go into Lebanon completely if not a serious dent or confrontation -escalation into Iran? Certainly enough to withstand Lebanon going into Golan then respond??????

Posted by: Jo | Aug 16 2024 9:51 utc | 3

Goooood morning hasbarats where you hidey hidey this Saturday morning?
A day off? packing? Ready to RUUUUNNNNN to your Uncle Sam hidey hole?
Or are you just shiting yourselves in bunkers waiting for it??
Maybe gathering for your share of superstitious innocent burnt fake red heifer ashes?
Never mind enjoy some Bad Actors:
A fake ‘Tommy’
https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2024/august/12/lowkey-exposes-tommy-robinsons-links-to-israel
A fake Donald
https://nitter.poast.org/The_Real_Fly/status/1824230975259414814#m
A fake Doomer
https://nitter.poast.org/LauraLoomer/status/1823836174932156804#m
Ziofascists mass murder of Palestine natives supporters.
From the River to the Sea!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 16 2024 9:56 utc | 4

I have two simple questions for the planners at yesterday and today’s Gaza settlement talks in [Q]atar:
(1) How many planned assassinations are placed on the map at the ‘round’ table?
(2) What level of intelligence would [Q]atar reveal this time on the map at the ‘round’ table?

Posted by: AI | Aug 16 2024 10:19 utc | 5

AI 5
Qatar and Muslim Brotherhood can not be an honest mediator because MI6 has its hand up MB’s arse.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 16 2024 10:29 utc | 6

Jewish psychopaths have no right to rule over anyone, anywhere.
Removing them from power is of the greatest importance.

Posted by: ryanggg | Aug 16 2024 10:35 utc | 7

Behold the tunnels of Hezbollah:
https://youtu.be/im6e5dFn_eg?si=ETUHII47uhwcLJIi
Some say they “hide like rats” but I say they recline like kings in these magnificent subterranean abodes!

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 16 2024 10:36 utc | 8

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 16 2024 10:29 utc | 6
^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^
The killing of the head of Hamas’ political bureau, Ismail Haniyeh ‘a peacemaker’ never made sense. And you know he had a good life in Qatar.

Posted by: AI | Aug 16 2024 10:50 utc | 9

I truly don’t understand why some news sites choose to point out the war crimes of Isreal only. Hezbollah and Hamas have done even worse. Name one war that ever happened where one side was totally humanitarian. The US murdered thousands of innocent people in Hiroshima, Tokyo to but that is not as widely reported. We won WW2 (that needed to be won) but at the cost of innocent civilians. THIS WAR NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE US HAD NOT HAD RIGGED ELECTIONS AND TRUMP WAS STILL AT THE HELM.

Posted by: Fortuna | Aug 16 2024 11:10 utc | 10

Apparently b find Alistair Crooke worth citing.
Thanks, Arch, for the interesting video on Hezbollah’s military preparations. I like the bikes.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2024 11:21 utc | 11

AI 9
And your point?
I am with Vladimir Putin on Hamas.
Kidnapping is terrorism. It’s not allowed in Islam , or anywhere else.
Kidnapping a politician’s or anybody else ‘s whereabouts is State Terrorism. Murder is Paradise.
Let me tell you a fact. There is no Terrorism , except State Terrorism.
So which State do we think initiated the Terrorism of Kidnapping on Oct 7 ? Who armed Hamas to commit these terrorist acts?
Egypt, owned by US?
Iran, closet friend of USUKIS?
Russia, superpower in its own right?
USUKIS, superpower in its own right with its hands up the backsides of every Muslim sect for many centuries?
Do the Muslim sects which are puppets of USUKIS work for Palestine or for USUKIS?
Why do USUKIS want to control West Asia? What gives them the right to control West Asia?
The answer to the last question gives you the answer to all of them.
The first world economies wouldn’t survive for a minute in the state of luxury that exists without Oil and Gas, which they steal from West Asia without metering it and which they distribute to countries that manufacture their goods or harbour their weaponry.
The Gulf States wouldn’t even be States without the money from oil and Gas.
Therefore it’s impossible for USUKIS clients to support Palestine’s rights without losing their own existence.
The only direction that support for Palestine will ever come from is neighbouring South Asia , Palestine’s neighbours to the North, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey and Russia , China and Iran.
But it will take time. The UN has set the legal foundation, one meter of concrete underground. The rest will take time.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 16 2024 11:31 utc | 12

/flies in to tie a kite string to this beer garden’s fence post
^.^
A kite angel radiating love, in case anyone feels low, bitter, unheard, or alone. =) Another leg in the marathon begins! May the kite angel symbol give you hope and strength to be your best and do your best in such trying times.
😀
Now where’s my mini hopscotch play area…
/hop, hop, hop

Posted by: titmouse | Aug 16 2024 11:31 utc | 13

Will someone please tell Bezalel Smotrich that he is NOT the Messiah (Moshiach)
or
Why an apparent Death Wish looks like G-d’s Plan to others.
[August 12, 2024]

«The religious Zionists want a big war, a kind of Armageddon, which for them means a historically unique opportunity: to expel the Palestinians from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and occupy the entire country,» says Eran Etzion, a former high-ranking official in the Israeli Foreign Ministry and a former member of the National Security Council.
«As crazy as it sounds, from the perspective of the religious Zionists, these are wonderful times in Israel,» says Etzion. There should be no illusions about the ideology of politicians like Smotrich and Ben-Gvir, he says. «They are as extreme as their Arab counterparts in the Islamic Jihad or the Islamic State.»

https://www.nzz.ch/english/israels-right-wing-extremists-fuel-tensions-in-the-midst-of-war-ld.1843053
Further reading:

This does not rule out the possibility of Moshiach [Messiah] coming today and now, if we merit it. It should be noted that many Torah authorities are of the opinion that we are in the “epoch of the Moshiach,” and the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, of righteous memory, stated on numerous occasions that the messianic redemption is imminent.
…
Maimonides, a great Jewish philosopher and codifier of the 12th century, rules that if we recognize a human being who possesses the superlative qualities ascribed to Moshiach, we may presume that he is the potential Moshiach. If this individual actually succeeds in rebuilding the Temple and gathering in the exiles, then he is the Moshiach.
Maimonides states in his Mishneh Torah—a compendium of the entire halachic tradition—that Moshiach will first rebuild the Temple and then gather in the exiles. Jerusalem and the Temple will be the focus of divine worship, and “from Zion shall go forth Torah, and the word of the L‑rd from Jerusalem.”
…
The Sanhedrin—the supreme Jewish law court of 71 sages—will be re-established, and will decide on all matters of law.
…
The Talmud describes the period immediately prior to the advent of Moshiach as one of great travail and turmoil. There will be a world recession, and governments will be controlled by despots. It is in this troubled setting that Moshiach will arrive.
There is a tradition that a great war will take place, called the war of Gog and Magog, and there is much speculation as to the precise timing of this war in relation to Moshiach’s arrival.

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/108400/jewish/The-End-of-Days.htm
https://www.timesofisrael.com/how-bezalel-smotrich-rode-unfiltered-radicalism-and-unforgiving-politics-to-power/
Bezalel Smotrich’s manifesto:
https://hashiloach.org.il/israels-decisive-plan/
Never heard of “biblical justice” (Smotrich’s words). Now you have.

Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 11:32 utc | 14

Fortuna 10
Fortune my foe, why dost thou frown on me ? Victim wheedling.
The occupied have a legal right to resist. The occupiers have a duty to protect. Khalas. End of story. Bye.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 16 2024 11:39 utc | 15

librul 14
Smotrich is like a lump of volcanic pumice. You rub your hands on him to clean out the heavy stains.
How much he is full of bullshit, here minds us of deep, spiritual truth.
La ilaha ill(a) Allah .Muhammadu(n) (r)rasulullah.
Allahin dedigi olur

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 16 2024 11:51 utc | 16

Giyane | Aug 16 2024 11:51 utc | 16
He is a pure non-semite claiming to be semitic. Not a child of Abraham. Some othodox parties are claiming they might bring the government down becasue of his temple mount visit.

Posted by: circumspect | Aug 16 2024 11:59 utc | 17

Abier
@abierkhatib
China now has more freedom of expression than the US
What a time to be a live!
https://x.com/abierkhatib/status/1823931783361995106

Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:03 utc | 18

A poem of Bezalel Smotrich
First they came for the Palestinians, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Palestinian
Then they came for the LGBQT, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not LGBQT
Then they came for the secular Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a secular Jew
Then they came for those less perfect in their observance, and I did not speak out —
Because they would have stoned me

Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 12:04 utc | 19

Mmmmmm??
Globe Eye News
@GlobeEyeNews
Saudi Crown Prince informed US Congress members that his life is in danger for working to normalize relations with Israel.
https://x.com/GlobeEyeNews/status/1823764897836228864

Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:05 utc | 20

Australia:
David Shoebridge
@DavidShoebridge
The Albanese Government has just revealed that they have rejected visas for over 7,000 Palestinians from fleeing the genocide in Gaza and only granted visas for 2,900.
More below👇
https://x.com/DavidShoebridge/status/1823632284773442002

Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:06 utc | 21

sarah
@sahouraxo
BREAKING:
Spain’s MEP, Irene Montero:
“Israel is a genocidal and terrorist state. Enough with the complicity with these criminals. Not in our name. Total arms embargo and severing of relations now!”
https://x.com/sahouraxo/status/1824214160428896309

Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:08 utc | 22

Interesting speech by Abbas.
https://www.alquds.com/en/posts/132215

President Mahmoud Abbas said: “I have decided to head with all members of the Palestinian leadership to the Gaza Strip, and we call for securing our arrival there.”
In his important speech delivered at the General Assembly of the Turkish Parliament, held today, Thursday, in the Turkish capital Ankara, in the presence of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, President Abbas called on world leaders and the Secretary-General of the United Nations to visit Gaza.
He stressed that after the Gaza Strip, he will head to the city of Jerusalem, noting that Israel’s real goal from the war of extermination in Gaza, the West Bank and Jerusalem is to uproot the Palestinian presence from our homeland and to forcibly displace the Palestinians again, which will never happen no matter what they do and no matter how hard they try.
He said: “I have come to you carrying the pain and hopes of our Palestinian people, who have been living in great pain and continuous catastrophe since 1948, and are facing the crimes of the occupation and the absence of international justice, clinging to their land, homeland, holy sites and fixed national rights” . . . .

Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2024 12:13 utc | 23

Palestine Festival of Literature
@PalFest
Viet Thanh Nguyen traces American empire from the Vietnam War to the genocide in Gaza and beyond:
“You cannot separate the domestic politics of the United States – its inequities, its contradictions, its oppressions – from what the United States does outside of this country.”
https://x.com/PalFest/status/1824099608349331628

Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:14 utc | 24

President Abbas called on world leaders and the Secretary-General of the United Nations to visit Gaza.
@Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2024 12:13 utc | 23
Have tried to verify the Abbas statement, but all I have found is Abbas’ call for Muslim world leaders
to go to Gaza. Israel would luv that!

Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 12:19 utc | 25

Welcome B
I thought you’d point to the fact that the official numbers (though total ones are probably 4 or 5 times as large ) had passed the 40.000 line.
Get well

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 16 2024 12:22 utc | 26

ZH reports that France is becoming ungovernable – and claims that anti-semitism is becoming open and acceptable. The sands are shifting.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 16 2024 12:26 utc | 27

Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:06 utc | 21
Can’t be true!
The white man tells me he is drowning in waves of brown middle easterners whom his rulers allow in by the millions.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 16 2024 12:35 utc | 28

Then they came for the secular Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a secular Jew
Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 12:04 utc | 19
Secular Jews are the ones doing the worst of the butchery. Don’t be fooled.
Secular Jew. A contradiction in terms.
If they actually did come for the secular Jews I’d say “serves:em right”.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 16 2024 12:39 utc | 29

Saudi Crown Prince informed US Congress members that his life is in danger for working to normalize relations with Israel.
https://x.com/GlobeEyeNews/status/1823764897836228864
Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:05 utc | 20
_____
Best news I’ve heard so far today!

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 16 2024 12:49 utc | 30

@Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:05 utc | 20

Saudi Crown Prince informed US Congress members that his life is in danger for working to normalize relations with Israel.
“>https://x.com/GlobeEyeNews/status/1823764897836228864

Maybe he should talk to the journalist Khashoggi to get some publicity?

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 16 2024 12:59 utc | 31

Hezbollah and Hamas have done even worse.
Posted by: Fortuna | Aug 16 2024 11:10 utc | 10
Really what have they done which is worse? Indeed it’s hard to think of anything at all, apart from the usual rough and tumble of resistance fighting, which is legal.

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 16 2024 13:03 utc | 32

Hezbollah and Hamas have done even worse.
Posted by: Fortuna | Aug 16 2024 11:10 utc | 10
Really what have they done which is worse? Indeed it’s hard to think of anything at all, apart from the usual rough and tumble of resistance fighting, which is legal.
Posted by: laguerre | Aug 16 2024 13:03 utc | 32
Fortuna you are either seriously misinformed or you are a troll:
Kindly please document the claim that Hezbollah and Hamas have done worse.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 16 2024 13:13 utc | 33

“Then they came for the secular Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a secular Jew”
Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 12:04 utc | 19
Hey Einstein: how do you think the Zionists get their financing for the Genocide?
Geez…..

Posted by: canuck | Aug 16 2024 13:16 utc | 34

ZH reports that France is becoming ungovernable – and claims that anti-semitism is becoming open and acceptable.
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 16 2024 12:26 utc | 27
I wouldn’t believe that kind of stuff for a moment. Francophobes like ZH are always raising that kind of issue. Happens every couple of weeks there’s a scandal.

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 16 2024 13:19 utc | 35

Saudi Crown Prince informed US Congress members that his life is in danger for working to normalize relations with Israel.
https://x.com/GlobeEyeNews/status/1823764897836228864
Posted by: Menz | Aug 16 2024 12:05 utc | 20
That’s another vague unsourced item of news. He could only have said it, if he kept it out of the Saudi news cycle, and nobody at home heard about it. Rather a risk, I would say. More probably it was an Israeli news source that invented it (though we’re not told).

Posted by: laguerre | Aug 16 2024 13:24 utc | 36

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 16 2024 12:39 utc | 29
You’re missing the nuanced political gaslighting.
100’s of 1,000’s of ‘economic refugees’ with skills and/or money are fine.
Genuine political refugees, driven by western interventionism, are used as a narrative shield to evoke a false domestic belief in ‘strong borders’.
John Howard, Oz PM from 1996-2007, admitted this strategy in recorded interview.

Posted by: Greg | Aug 16 2024 13:31 utc | 37

I truly don’t understand why some news sites choose to point out the war crimes of Isreal only. Hezbollah and Hamas have done even worse. Name one war that ever happened where one side was totally humanitarian. The US murdered thousands of innocent people in Hiroshima, Tokyo to but that is not as widely reported. We won WW2 (that needed to be won) but at the cost of innocent civilians. THIS WAR NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF THE US HAD NOT HAD RIGGED ELECTIONS AND TRUMP WAS STILL AT THE HELM.
Posted by: Fortuna | Aug 16 2024 11:10 utc | 10
As other have asked, what war crimes have Hamas committed?
Your assertion of Trump being a saviour conveys your delusional belief that the US political duopoly offers a real choice. Accordingly it can be assumed your head is buried tightly up your own arse and its utterings are nothing more than errant flatulence.
Please don’t slam the door on your way out.

Posted by: Greg | Aug 16 2024 13:38 utc | 38

History repeats. It is a Template.
Once again King Herod (aka Benjamin Netanyahu) terrorises Palestine murdering all Palestinian babies in fear that one might claim his throne.
“Bring me the head of John the Baptist”.
They “take the head” of Ismael Haniyeh.

Once again the ‘Rome’ of today presides over the slaughter while their murderous satrap runs rampant.

Once again, the Magi hail from Persia, bringing gifts not of Myrrh, Frankincense and Gold but of Kornet, Yakhont and Mersad.

We await the Palestinian Messiah.
We await the throwing down of the Third Temple: the abomination of ‘Israel’.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 16 2024 13:45 utc | 39

Now for toady’s update
https://tass.com/politics/1830073
“Ukraine’s overall losses in the course of combat operations stand at up to 2,860 troops.” still the 280/day ballpark
“- Russia’s Battlegroup North has repelled an attack toward Russky Porechny and Gordeyevka in the Kursk Region.” from day one (or two) I suggested Gordeyevka as the wedge origin to close the cauldron
“- Ukrainian mobile groups trying to advance deeper inside Russia’s territory were eliminated one kilometer west of Anastasyevka and 1.5 kilometer southeast of Kauchuk.” that’s still 30km from the border crossing, things haven’t changed much
– Ukrainian troops and vehicles were hit near Alexandria, Snagosti, Mirny, Kazachya Loknya, Korenevo, Pleskhovo, and Pushkarny.” Except for a deeper dent by advancing RF by the R200, it seems that elsewhere there is still a strong presence up to 20km radius
” (though a true controlled radius, in this penetration axis, is probably closer to 14 kms)
So adding up both, the original insertion is still underway and we seem to be in a yo-yo between day 5 and day 6… So tandem reinforcements through the original R200 Sudsha axis are still taking plac in spite of logistics bombings in the rear.
New insertions, namely the E38 have are taking place in parallel.
Milites, if you could take a look and add something I’d be grateful.
This is my reading and Tass is as official as you can get short of the ministry.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 16 2024 13:46 utc | 40

Sorry wrong thread /tab

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 16 2024 13:47 utc | 41

“President Abbas called on world leaders and the Secretary-General of the United Nations to visit Gaza.”
@Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2024 12:13 utc | 23
Have tried to verify the Abbas statement, but all I have found is Abbas’ call for Muslim world leaders
to go to Gaza. Israel would luv that!
Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 12:19 utc | 25
==================
Please note that virtually all of my post was a blockquote, aside from my introductory phrase.
I also posted the link to the quoted story, which included large portions of Abbas’s speech.
Here it is again:
https://www.alquds.com/en/posts/132215
I think the whole speech is here, but don’t have time to watch the whole video now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhjuk7YvgUs

Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2024 13:50 utc | 42

ZH reports that France is becoming ungovernable – and claims that anti-semitism is becoming open and acceptable.
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 16 2024 12:26 utc | 27
===============
I also saw the story at ZH.
It looks like with his maneuverings to deny an electoral win to Le Pen’s party (“fascists”), who oppose more immigration, Macron has let a different bad genie out of its lamp on the left.
I don’t think the article states that antisemitism is becoming “acceptable.” Unless one conflates anti-Zionism with anti-semitism.
Which may be happening within France.
If one posits that Macron is still a Rothschild man, does this outcome further a Rothschild agenda? How does this coalition against Le Pen help Israel?

Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2024 13:57 utc | 43

The MIDDLE EAST EYE has an article on how pro-Palestine protests have made Barclays Bank withdraw from Israel bond auctions. That’s good, I guess. Seems like protesters really had a go at Barclays branches across the UK. Maybe some British barfly here knows more?
Having read the article, I tried to find out some more about Israeli government bonds. I learned something really astonishing. One of the largest holders of Israeli bonds is a small US entity: Palm Beach County! Can you believe it? Apparently, they’re now happy to own $700 million of war-crime bonds.
Does anyone know where Mar-a-Lago is situated in Florida?

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 16 2024 14:05 utc | 44

@ Scotch Bingeington | Aug 16 2024 14:05 utc | 44
It’s worth noting that Palm Beach County has a disproportionately large Jewish population (14%, 2021 government estimate), which includes retirees of comfortable means.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 16 2024 14:15 utc | 45

The MIDDLE EAST EYE has an article on how pro-Palestine protests have made Barclays Bank withdraw from Israel bond auctions. That’s good, I guess. Seems like protesters really had a go at Barclays branches across the UK. Maybe some British barfly here knows more?
Having read the article, I tried to find out some more about Israeli government bonds. I learned something really astonishing. One of the largest holders of Israeli bonds is a small US entity: Palm Beach County! Can you believe it? Apparently, they’re now happy to own $700 million of war-crime bonds.
Does anyone know where Mar-a-Lago is situated in Florida?
Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 16 2024 14:05 utc | 44
Significant local population and luxury retirement homes for a lot of the wealthy …
“The population of Palm Beach County is 15.8% Jewish. Boca Raton, with an overall population of 100,000 people, has 16 synagogues.”
Roughly 40% of jews in florida live in Palm Beach, anotheer 40% in Fort Lauderdale, the rest in Miami
Mar-a-Lago is in Palm Beach

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 16 2024 14:19 utc | 46

reply to 32
I’m not into this binary nonsense of choosing a side between two horrid groups. That said, I am appalled by honor killings by Hamas. There was an incident of a young women talking in public to a young male. They killed her and turned out it was a cousin or something. Hamas was all, ‘our bad’.
I would like to see Israel offer advertised sanctuary to young women threatened with murder. Even if it’s rarely taken up, it could still be useful in improving Middle East morality.

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 16 2024 14:20 utc | 47

@ Scotch Bingeington | Aug 16 2024 14:05 utc | 44
It’s worth noting that Palm Beach County has a disproportionately large Jewish population (14%, 2021 government estimate), which includes retirees of comfortable means.
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 16 2024 14:15 utc | 45
Sorry, didn’t update before posting and didn’t see your post.
Interesting that your 2021 estimate is significantly lower than the 2005 percentage I used… Leaving the boat?
Hope what I added was worth the double answering.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 16 2024 14:23 utc | 48

@ Newbie | Aug 16 2024 14:23 utc | 48
Could be any number of explanations for the apparent decline. Most center around the old question of who is (or self-identifies as) Jewish, and whether on ethnic or religious grounds. Or whether “snowbirds” are included. Or maybe it’s the Grim Reaper; after all, a lot of them are retirees.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 16 2024 14:36 utc | 49

reply to 43
“Many French Jews are aghast. Before the elections, Nazi hunter Serge Klarsfeld and the former president Representative Council of French Jewish Institutions, Dr. Richard Prasquier, said that, faced with the rise of Islamic left-wing anti-Semitism, they had decided to vote for the National Rally. In fact, the National Rally throughout this period was the only party to explicitly denounce Islamic left-wing anti-Semitism.
Commenting on the results of the election, the Rabbi Moshe Sebbag, of the Grand Synagogue of Paris, said, “there is no future for Jews in France”. He recommended that Jews who could, should leave France.”
Are you sure you read the article?

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 16 2024 14:38 utc | 50

Hmm…

A poem of Bezalel Smotrich
First they came for the Palestinians, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Palestinian
Then they came for the LGBQT, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not LGBQT
Then they came for the secular Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a secular Jew
Then they came for those less perfect in their observance, and I did not speak out —
Because they would have stoned me
Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 12:04 utc | 19

Barflies are trying to interpret the poem without first understanding who Bezalel Smotrich is.
You need to read:
Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 11:32 utc | 14
Cliff Notes:
Bezalel Smotrich wants to turn Israel into a theocracy. And not just any old theocracy,
a very strict theocracy with absolute “biblical” powers.
This creates a problem for secular Jews, for instance.
They and Smotrich are NOW partners in the ongoing Genocide.
But once Smotrich is done with the Palestinians he is coming for the secular Jews,
and he has said so.
One thing you have to give Smotrich is that he is open and honest. He doesn’t hold back
his inner biblical psychopathic beliefs.

Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 14:39 utc | 51

Latest development shows people are getting fed up with pro-Zionist leadership: “Melbourne orchestra leaders voted out for removing pianist over Gaza tribute” (Middle East Eye)
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/melbourne-orchestra-leaders-voted-out-removing-pianist-over-gaza-tribute

Posted by: nazcalito | Aug 16 2024 14:45 utc | 52

sputnik news posted article today….huge huge huge arms sales to Israel…50 planes vehicles shells etc…could be enough to go into Lebanon completely if not a serious dent or confrontation -escalation into Iran? Certainly enough to withstand Lebanon going into Golan then respond??????
Posted by: Jo | Aug 16 2024 9:51 utc | 3
To have any relevance to the current situation, this would require putting fifty American pilots in the planes.

Posted by: Honzo | Aug 16 2024 14:45 utc | 53

“It looks like with his maneuverings to deny an electoral win to Le Pen’s party (“fascists”), who oppose more immigration, Macron has let a different bad genie out of its lamp on the left.”
Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2024 13:57 utc | 43
You right on the mark with that comment.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 16 2024 15:03 utc | 54

gosh… what happened to my post?

Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 15:05 utc | 55

Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 14:39 utc | 51
The Zionists want to kill their financiers, the secular Jews?
This idea can’t even be called ‘fanciful’; its downright retarded.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 16 2024 15:07 utc | 56

@Posted by: canuck | Aug 16 2024 15:07 utc | 56
Indeed!! Way more than “retarded”, the Religious Zionists are fanatics !!

Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 15:09 utc | 57

@Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 15:09 utc | 57
Oops, you said “kill”. More like “cleansed”.

Posted by: librul | Aug 16 2024 15:10 utc | 58

Commenting on the results of the election, the Rabbi Moshe Sebbag, of the Grand Synagogue of Paris, said, “there is no future for Jews in France”. He recommended that Jews who could, should leave France.”
Are you sure you read the article?
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 16 2024 14:38 utc | 50
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I don’t take such melodramatic statements by Jews as gospel.
When I read that statement my immediate thought was: And go where?

Posted by: Jane | Aug 16 2024 15:18 utc | 59

Eighthman 50 — I agree, why the hostility towards Melanchon? He’s one of the few politicians who attended the ICJ genocide hearings, along with Corbyn.

Posted by: nazcalito | Aug 16 2024 15:22 utc | 60

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