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August 8, 2024
Palestine Open Thread 2024-189

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Youssef Fares
“The war produced a class of children, women and men who lost all of their families. They remained alone, without a home, shelter, or family. They slept in any empty space in shelter centers. If stray dogs had not changed their behavior to predatory behavior due to their feeding on corpses, they would have chosen to sleep in the streets. Most of the deceased in the Tabi’in massacre were by missile provided a “reunification” service with their previous relatives.
In the Tabi’in massacre, they killed the worshipers prostrating while the nation was kneeling.”

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 10 2024 13:02 utc | 201

WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?
Posted by: Jane | Aug 10 2024 1:29 utc | 156
“11 carrier groups
5.044 nuclear warheads
14.000 war jets
2.080.000 military
… and all their psycho friends
… Just that I guess.”
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 10 2024 1:32 utc | 158
Actually, the US has only
WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?
Posted by: Jane | Aug 10 2024 1:29 utc | 156
11 carrier groups
5.044 nuclear warheads
14.000 war jets
2.080.000 military
… and all their psycho friends
… Just that I guess.
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 10
Newbie, Newbie US has only 3,708 nukes, not 5,044 (1);and US has approximately 5,217 aircraft not 14,000 and many of those aren’t jets.(2)
1. “Nuclear weapons of the United States
United States
Total tests 1,054 detonations
Peak stockpile 31,255 warheads (1967)
Current stockpile 3,708 (2024)
Maximum missile range ICBM: 15,000 km (9,321 mi) SLBM: 12,000 km (7,456 mi)”
2. “As of late 2021, the United States Air Force (USAF) is composed of 5217 active aircraft, making it the largest, the most technologically advanced, and the most powerful air fleet in the world.”

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 13:10 utc | 202

larry johnson & mohammad marandi
This is the best I’ve seen/heard on Marandi. It’s more a conversation–not exactly an interview– between the two and Larry’s first time with him. highly recommend it, hour long. learned lots about Iran and current actions, probable future actions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9-HrAONvbo&t=1s

Posted by: migueljose | Aug 10 2024 13:16 utc | 203

it’s all a set up by war criminal Netanyahu
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1822258435032789052
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
#Israel attacked #Yemen, #Beirut, #Tehran, #Damascus to force all these countries and non-state actors to retaliate so that the #US and its allies can rush to the ME with large forces (this is exactly what happened). This is a clear indication that @Netanyahu
wants an all-out war with a huge military led by US forces on his side, to fight on his behalf.
As soon as there was talk of negotiations and a possible ceasefire from the US, Qatar and Egypt, Netanyahu blew it up. He prefers to take advantage of the large US forces in the ME and provoke all his enemies into a wider war.
If Netanyahu stops the war, he will fall. If he continues to provoke a wider war, he will survive. The fate of Israel is in the hands of a man fighting for his own survival.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 10 2024 13:19 utc | 204

There is something particularly debauched and disturbing about teaching teen-aged female soldiers to rape prisoners.
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[…] Though it [rape] was rampant, inmates [Palestinian prisoners] rarely spoke about it to each other, he said. It was embarrassing for many to admit, especially when they were raped by female soldiers, who were sometimes in their teens. […]
raped-female-soldiers-palestinian-leaked-sde-teiman-photo-speaks-out
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Posted by: teri | Aug 10 2024 13:23 utc | 205

… not Jews [who] are disgraced by the Zionist behavoiur.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 12:46 utc | 195
I’m saying that imperfect human beings who succumb to blind hatred will not make a distinction between the Good Jew and the Bad.
And, should mankind prevail past the nuclear fireball ‘James Kirk’ alludes to, there will be many who succumb to blind hatred.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 12:52 utc | 197
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In that case it makes sense to have created a social media record of one’s advocacy for Palestinian human and civil right.
Or maybe just a few snapshots of one standing out on a street corner holding an “End the Gaza Genocide” sign.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 10 2024 13:24 utc | 206

“If Netanyahu stops the war, he will fall. If he continues to provoke a wider war, he will survive. The fate of Israel is in the hands of a man fighting for his own survival.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 10 2024 13:19 utc | 204
Netanyahu will destroy himself along with apartheid Israel-I have no doubt-just keep giving him enough rope, he will hang himself along with his shitty country.
In the meantime Putin has assuaged Iran’s wounds and delaying OR EVEN STOPPING their attack on Israel by saying ” Hey, instead of a counter attack on Israel how bout Russia gives you guys s-400’s and other Russian equipment that will defend Israel when they attack again”
Time is on the Axis side-I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel does another attack on Iran because their strategy (provoke Iran so badly that they have a violent attack on Israel that drags the US into the ‘war’..

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 13:27 utc | 207

I’m beginning to thing the EDL is fine with white-skinned refugees, it’s just the darker skinned ones they hate.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 11:58 utc | 193
That’s largely correct Arch although it’s difficult to find logic in knuckleheaded bigotry, most English Defence League supporters could be classified as white supremacists.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 10 2024 13:29 utc | 208

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 12:58 utc | 199
More insults and lies. 8 months is not ‘almost a year’. Bloviating earlier this week you said you worked in Luton for eight months almost ten years ago, which are likely exaggerated anyway. Luton almost ten years ago is not Luton today. You live in some cultural and intellectual wasteland north of the Empire of Lies. I live in London and work with people from Luton regularly, day in day out, now. It’s pretty easy to see which of us has a better understanding about what happens day to day in the UK. And using the Luton vernacular ‘you can shove your Israeli funded Tommy Robinson / EDL propaganda video up your arsehole sideways, guv’. No thinking person would bother to watch that, let alone take it as a reality.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 10 2024 13:36 utc | 209

In the meantime Putin has assuaged Iran’s wounds and delaying OR EVEN STOPPING their attack on Israel by saying ” Hey, instead of a counter attack on Israel how bout Russia gives you guys s-400’s and other Russian equipment that will defend Israel when they attack again”
Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 13:27 utc | 207
I must say, if these “s-400’s and other Russian equipment” work as well as they have in Syria I don’t hold out much hope for Iran stopping their attack no Israhell when the inevitable next Mossad operation takes out a key Iranian leader (perhaps even the Ayatollah himself this time?).

Judging by the Syrian track record I’d advise the Iranians not to put much stock in Russian weapons no matter how qualitatively better they are than American ones.

Russia has (understandably) a kill switch override in every single one of it’s exported or lent out air defence or offence systems – they’re never going to allow Iran to strike Israhell and kill thousands of Russian-origin Zionists.
And, if the use of Russian systems by Iran in pure defence positions it for offence against Israhell, then I’m sure the Russians will disable even the defensive capability if that’s what it takes to defend their cousins in Zionistan.

For some years now I’ve been hoping Iran would buy and modify Chinese equivalents of the s-300/s-400 systems which may actually promise more advanced or at least reliable features. Example, the HQ-19 and HQ-9x series.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 13:43 utc | 210

In that case it makes sense to have created a social media record of one’s advocacy for Palestinian human and civil right.
Posted by: Jane | Aug 10 2024 13:24 utc | 206
A perfect case for public protests if ever there was one.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 13:45 utc | 211

“That’s largely correct Arch although it’s difficult to find logic in knuckleheaded bigotry, most English Defence League supporters could be classified as white supremacists.”
Posted by: Lev Dumbovich | Aug 10 2024 13:29 utc | 208
Many of the ‘English Defense League” are concerned fathers because their under age daughters have been groomed by Muslim fanatics and are now drug addicts and prostitutes.
I guess you never bothered to educate yourself with the below video i sent you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqwtFquM3Ng -that blasts all your ignorant babble.
Further, I guess you have not read the Jay report either by the British government who pointed out that West Asians were grooming underage British girls:
“The 2014 Jay report into Rotherham found that victims described the majority of their perpetrators as Asian, the 2015 Casey Report concluded that most abusers were of Pakistani heritage and the equivalent 2022 inquiry in Telford found most suspects to be of ‘southern Asian heritage’.”
Or I am confident you didn’t read read Baroness Casey reports that illustrates the huge policing failures that led to grooming, drug addiction and prostitutes of underage girls
“BARONESS CASEY REVIEW OF THE METROPOLITAN POLICE: FINAL REPORT
Baroness Louise Casey’s final report into the Metropolitan Police has today found severe
institutional failings across the organisation that will require radical reform to resolve.
The Crossbench Peer was commissioned to review the culture and standards of London’s police
service in the wake of the rape, abduction and murder of Sarah Everard by a serving Met officer, and
a series of other scandals that have shattered public confidence in the force.
Following a year-long investigation, in her final and full report, today Baroness Casey has laid bare
deep and wide shortcomings across the force, including that:
• The Met is failing women and children
• After a decade of austerity, frontline policing has been deprioritised and degraded
• There is institutional racism, sexism and homophobia, inside the organisation in terms of
how officers and staff are treated, and outside the organisation in terms of how
communities are policed
• And it is unable to police itself
Baroness Casey assesses that all of this means that policing by consent in the capital is broken. And
that the biggest single barrier to fixing the force is the Met’s culture of defensiveness and denial
about the scale of its problems.
In response to these challenges, the Review recommends that the Met must:
• Better protect women and children with a dedicated women’s protection service ” (1)
1. https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/met/about-us/baroness-casey-review/update-march-2023/baroness-casey-review-press-notice.pdf

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 13:46 utc | 212

I have read the Casey Report that illustrates the huge policing failures that led to grooming, drug addiction and prostitutes of underage girls.
It says nothing about the this crime being perpetrated predominantly by one particular ethnic or religious group.
That conflation, trying to give the impression that most of this crime is committed by Muslims against white women is a figment of your Israeli funded EDL propaganda video. This propaganda has no basis in reality.
You believe this Israeli funded EDL propaganda because it fits your inherent political views, biases and prejudices. And you live in the middle of nowhere and have no access to the reality of this situation.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 10 2024 13:56 utc | 213

Many of the ‘English Defense League” are concerned fathers because their under age daughters have been groomed by Muslim fanatics and are now drug addicts and prostitutes.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 13:46 utc | 212
I hate to say this but judging by the state of Western youth even 30 years ago, the under-aged daughters of the Anglos (in all their various colonies) were doing well at drug addiction and prostitution long before the Muslims showed up

[Verse 1]
As I walk along these streets
I see a man that walks alone
Distant echo of people’s feet
He has no place to call his own
A shot rings out from a roof overhead
A crackhead asks for change nearby
An old man lies in an alleyway dead
A little girl lost just stands there and cries
[Chorus]
What would you do (What would you do)
If it was you (If it was you)
Would you take everything
For granted like you do
[Verse 2]
A boy just 13 on the corner for sale
Swallows his pride for another hit
Overpopulation there’s no room in jail
And most of you don’t give a shit
That your daughters are porno stars
And your sons sell death to kids
So lost in your little worlds
Your little worlds you’ll never fix

— Staind, “Break the Cycle”
It’s all that ‘freedom’ and ‘democracy’, you see …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 13:57 utc | 214

Many of the ‘English Defense League” are concerned fathers because their under age daughters have been groomed by Muslim fanatics and are now drug addicts and prostitutes.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 13:46 utc | 212
Addendum:

Where were these “concerned fathers” during the era when Jimmy Saville and his massive rape rings bestrode England like a paedophiliac behemoth:


It was reported that Savile had boasted to nurses and other staff that he performed sex acts on the bodies of recently deceased persons in the mortuary of Leeds General Hospital and claimed to have removed glass eyes from corpses and made them into rings. The report says “We have no way of proving Savile’s claims that he interfered with the bodies of the deceased patients in the mortuary in this way” but that Savile did have unsupervised access to the mortuary.[155][156]

Perhaps it’s a “whites only” thing?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 14:04 utc | 215

Canuck 188
Last person who said that to me was a white police officer who I had just told my opinion that the police were only interested in the smooth running of lucrative drug crime for rich politicians.
What I see with my eyes on the street is police working closely, intimately even , with low life Muslim drug dealers and Muslim community spies.
What I hear with my ears is racist white yobs on building sites being told they will lose their jobs if they are racist on site.
Everybody just wants peace and quiet.
The Nazi EDL are sponsored by this new Labour Government to divert attention from the Israeli Genocide.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 10 2024 14:07 utc | 216

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 12:58 utc | 199
And as you seem unaware..Sarah Everard was kidnapped, raped and murdered by Wayne Cozens a (white) London Metropolitan Police Officer. Women held a vigil in south London, under cover of Covid restrictions the Met Police in riot gear forcibly dispersed and arrested the women attending the vigil.
Strangely enough the Israeli funded English Defence League didn’t attend the vigil for the kidnapped, raped and murdered woman. Nor did they make a video protesting the police dysfunction / brutality. You see the Israeli funded English Defence League have no genuine interest in the welfare of young women or men in the UK, they merely tell lies to further their paid for agenda of demonising Muslims and sowing racial hatred in the UK.

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 10 2024 14:17 utc | 217

Lev Davidovich 217
Our friend Canuck sought refuge in Canada from persecution in Europe, only to find that Canada is full of other refugees from persecutions in Europe.
My ancestors fled to Britain from persecution as Protestants in France, only to find that the British like Protestants but hate everything French.
Those of us, maybe including yourself, whose families have fled wars and persecutions are particularly sensitive to Wankers like Netanyahu and his Neocon masters wanting and trying to start WW3.
Ignore his bad mood. Maybe I’m wrong and a Polar Bear has stolen his rifle and shot him in the head. There are adults in the room, as Scott Ritter has discussed, dealing with the Neocons continual warmongering as we speak.
And I don’t mean adults in IOF sense.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 10 2024 14:37 utc | 218

@ 202 “”As of late 2021, the United States Air Force (USAF) is composed of 5217 active aircraft, making it the largest, the most technologically advanced, and the most powerful air fleet in the world.”
As i said in earlier post up to 40%+ of America’s fighter aircraft are not ready for war. Both US Air Force and Navy have a “weak” rating.
I posted The complete PDF US Congressional Report From the Commission of Military Strategy (The Rand Think Tank) in post 159. Yeah its a long read. But the Summary at the top of the report and Chapter 8 should be read.
In it is says the US is not ready for a Peer to Peer conflict and will most likely loose. It projects doubts that the US is ready for even a regional conflict like Iran.
Here is more for your reading pleasure from Heritage Foundation. Which gives the US Military a Weak overall rating.
https://www.heritage.org/press/heritage-foundation-releases-2023-index-us-military-strength-gives-us-military-first-ever
In the above report is the Link to 2023 Index of Military strength. It is a good long read.
They rate the US Air Farce as Very Weak. here is why………..
https://www.heritage.org/military-strength/assessment-us-military-power/us-air-force.
It makes one wonder if America is even capable of launching a Nuclear Attack.
50 year old missile systems. 40 year old leaky subs. and Antique Bombers.
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/01/06/minuteman-iii-missiles-are-too-old-upgrade-anymore-stratcom-chief-says.html
America Biggest, baddest, Most Powerful?

Posted by: golddigger | Aug 10 2024 14:53 utc | 219

In that case it makes sense to have created a social media record of one’s advocacy for Palestinian human and civil right.
Posted by: Jane | Aug 10 2024 13:24 utc | 206
A perfect case for public protests if ever there was one.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 13:45 utc | 211
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I mentioned “social media” with tongue in cheek because that can become ephemeral . … Hence the advice to take a few snapshots!
FWIW, at least half of our Ceasefire group are Jewish. A vigil was held across the street from a Chabad event a few weeks ago and the latter went crazy. There reb (not the local rabbi, a woman, but a new guy imported by Chabad) was quoted in a newspaper story as labeling them all antisemites.
When it was pointed out that most were Jewish, it turned into self-hating Jew. That label is used to neutralize the info that Jewish people are part of the Free Palestine/Stop the Genocide protests.
Another label that was attached to me was Jew-hater—when I wrote a comment presenting a brief sketch of the true history of Zionism in Palestine the responses were something like “Jew-hating history.”
I call out all of those terms as hate speech.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 10 2024 14:58 utc | 220

An urgent question from Yanis Varoufakis:

Dear International Criminal Court judges,
It is now beyond dispute: Israel has set out systematically to eliminate every aspect of Palestinian life in Gaza. It is not just the 186,000 lives that the Lancet estimates to have been lost. It is more than that.
You have already witnessed:
1. The most intensive bombing of any densely populated urban area in living memory
2. The most deliberately targeted starvation of a population in post-WW2 history
3. The greatest number of journalists killed in any war worldwide
4. The largest number of UN staff killed in 10 months.
And that’s not all: Israel attacks schools, universities, libraries, archives, cultural centres, heritage sites, mosques and churches. It assassinates professors and slaughters teachers, along with their students—often their entire families too. When will you act?
If you don’t act now, what is the point of having the ICC?
If you don’t act now, is there a smidgeon of an iota of a possibility that anyone will take the ICC seriously in the future?

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 10 2024 15:02 utc | 221

IOF?

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 10 2024 15:03 utc | 222

Folks who don’t like euphemizing the war department into the department of defense also object to the D in IDF, hence Israel Occupation Forces.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 10 2024 15:10 utc | 223

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 10 2024 15:10 utc | 223
And all this time I thought it was Israeli Offense Forces.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 10 2024 15:24 utc | 224

@ 15:24 utc | 224
But obviously I was wrong as that would imply there
were Israeli Defense Forces.

Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 10 2024 15:39 utc | 225

Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 14:04 utc | 215
*** Where were these “concerned fathers” during the era when Jimmy Saville and his massive rape rings bestrode England like a paedophiliac behemoth:***
To be fair to perhaps most of them, given when Saville (and associates?) was at the height of his operations then they would have been kids — and/or uninformed — themselves.
With regard to Saville and these activities … the establishment mass-media, police forces and the now King Charles — well, they do not have such an excuse. Especially the present PM, Starmer….

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 10 2024 15:44 utc | 226

“Arch Bungle | Aug 10 2024 14:04 utc | 215
*** Where were these “concerned fathers” during the era when Jimmy Saville and his massive rape rings bestrode England like a paedophiliac behemoth:***
To be fair to perhaps most of them, given when Saville (and associates?) was at the height of his operations then they would have been kids — and/or uninformed — themselves.
With regard to Saville and these activities … the establishment mass-media, police forces and the now King Charles — well, they do not have such an excuse. Especially the present PM, Starmer….”
Posted by: Cynic | Aug 10 2024 15:44 utc | 226
Exactly: every ethic or religious group has its psychotic Pedo creatures- whites have as many as any.
There were concerned people during Savile’S 40 year sexually perverted Pedo rampage was called out by Johnny Rotten (Lydon) of the Sex Pistols in 1978 and was banned from the BBC :
“Before he even finished the interview, Lydon seemed to recognise he was casting himself adrift from the BBC. “I bet none of this will be allowed out,” he concludes. Lydon understood better than anyone that the media establishment would do anything to hide the skeletons in its closet, even if that meant keeping information from the public. Lydon, like a lot of people involved with the BBC at that time, knew that Savile was a paedophile. But, despite the fact that this information was common knowledge, it was widely accepted and, as Lydon pointed out, actively hidden from public discourse. According to Lydon, the BBC’s decision to ban him from the airwaves for several years was partly to do with the fact that he knew too much.” (1)
1. https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/john-lydon-jimmy-savile-banned-from-bbc/

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 16:41 utc | 227

After the Israel carnage this morning in Gaza where more that 100 people praying in a school were killed by an enormous Israely bomb, British FM D. Lammy announced that Hamas must stop putting civilians in danger.
“I am shocked by the Israeli military strike on the Al-Tebain school and the tragic loss of life. Hamas must stop putting civilians in danger,” Lammy wrote on his social media page.

Posted by: JB | Aug 10 2024 16:48 utc | 228

@canuck | 227

every ethic[sic] or religious group has its psychotic Pedo creatures- whites have as many as any.

When I was in a small monastery briefly as a gardener, its head told me a little bit about the others there. One of them, he said, had experienced a strange unsettling situation with a girl, after which he decided to become a monk. The penny as to what he meant dropped much later. Still a lot later I realized that I find his decision very respectable.

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 10 2024 17:19 utc | 229

Someone needs to launch a Red Heifer energy drink. With burned cow shit flavour.
Michael A 112

The heffer(s?) sacrifice was made back in April FYI. This is why you see recent presence on the temple mount.
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……the 18th and 19th centuries, centered on his leadership, and his claim to be the reincarnation of the Messiah Sabbatai
helmut 116

Very rarely do I see sabbatai mentioned, and never here in my years at MOA. A first sir. There was a poster earlier this week or last, a shill of the paid variety most likely, baiting and making statements preemptively attempting to shame another poster by dropping the words 911, WW1, JFK, etc, & tossing out how ridiculous it would to for them to associate either those events or current genocide to the rockefellers or zionism. I follow B’s rules, and although he’s become more tolerant of my tangents so long as they circle back to our topic, I don’t reply to shills or trolls, or scum. It would have been an off-topic attack, clearly, and that’s not just bad optics, but against B’s rules and disrespectful. Plus, the argument could have been directed to a poster that made hateful comments about “jews” and I’m not defending the hate of anyone. Anyone human.. But in my mind’s reply, sabbatai and that relationship that to the rockefellers was most certainly present.
The rest here was also just posted as a reply to Alexander Dugin on substack.
It’s 2024, facts are becoming hard to hide and no longer dismissed by fear of the word conspiracy. We have Tucker insinuating demonic or alien subversion of national government. This week alone we have two well-known and respected retired officials on Napolitano discussing Biblical evil. I’m working on others. Just a few hours ago Doug Casey just dropped a vid to youtube speaking on secret societies “horrible people” “just horrible people across the board” “none of the people I want to know better” are a few of the quotes he managed to declare. Doug Casey doesn’t mess around either, he’s one of few at this point that that won’t at least engage in casual conversation and agreement on geopolitical topics, and after tonight I’ll certainly not cease attempts. If people realized how many involved in top-level international relations from every continent, especially those having served usa interests internally, with decades and decades of experience readily agree that the west is controlled by forces of darkness, not resource profit, not just control, but by an actual anti-human evil they not just serve but worship and conduct rituals to, they’d be surprised. Hellbent on a path they will not alter despite the obvious conclusion of the their own demise and loss of power. They’re blind because they are bound. What’s apparent to you and I and humanity can not be understood or seen by their eyes and minds. They’re either successfully deluded or of the fallen bloodline themselves. It doesn’t matter what you believe, ridiculous and offensive to one’s world view and scientific confidences or not, as it becomes undeniable that those in charge of western nations have some very ancient and unscientific beliefs, and act upon them, ritually. It’s going to take more and more mental and linguistic gymnastics to keep the west’s populace from becoming aware of some horrid truths. I urge everyone to accept this now while it’s voluntary, Lot’s wife is pillar that testifies in both muslim, jewish, & Christian faiths that there is a point in which it’s too late.

Posted by: NJH | Aug 10 2024 17:33 utc | 230

Like Ukraine – Israel has the full military backing of the US and the UK.
“US and British warplanes have bombed Yemen’s western coastal province of Hudaydah as part of their bid to stop Yemeni maritime operations against Israeli-affiliated vessels in the Red Sea. The development came two days after US and British forces carried out two airstrikes on Yemen’s southwestern province of Ta’izz.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Aug 10 2024 17:51 utc | 231

The heffer(s?) sacrifice was made back in April FYI. This is why you see recent presence on the temple mount.
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I thought they were still rehearsing it.
Did they sacrifice all four heifers?
Is there any news story on the actual event?
Where is PETA when you need them?
In Zion we are seeing animals and thousands of humans sacrificed at the same time and in the same space, while humans are also tortured to death in that Death Star called Israel.
SICK SICK SICK.
WTF is wrong with us/the West?

Posted by: Jane | Aug 10 2024 17:58 utc | 232

“SICK SICK SICK.
WTF is wrong with us/the West?”
Posted by: Jane | Aug 10 2024 17:58 utc | 232
A better question with a briefer answer, is: “What is right with the West?”

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 18:27 utc | 233

Apologies if this has already been posted.
Israel preventing entry of over one million polio vaccines into Gaza

Posted by: farm ecologist | Aug 10 2024 18:42 utc | 234

Very informative piece about intra-Palestinina relations, especially relevant ahead of the Abbas visit o Moscow next week.
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/can-new-hamas-chief-yahya-sinwar-achieve-palestinian-reconciliation

Posted by: JB | Aug 10 2024 20:13 utc | 235

@228 “Hamas: The British Minister’s demand that the movement stop exposing civilians to danger is an outrageous alignment with the false occupation narrative.”

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 10 2024 20:35 utc | 236

Posted by: Aleph_Null @ 221
I agree 100 percent. The impotence of the ICC makes them irrelevant.
Posted by: Scorpion @ 222
IOF?
IOF is the acronym for Israeli Occupation Force

Posted by: Willow | Aug 10 2024 20:36 utc | 237

From Consortium news, article on concrete steps UN can take to end the genocide
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/08/06/what-the-un-chief-can-do-for-gaza/

Posted by: Willow | Aug 10 2024 20:40 utc | 238

Here in the UK things are very quickly getting under control. And yes this ‘is’ relevent to Palistine. Dispite starmer not becouse of starmer and his lick spittle lackys.
https://www.itv.com/news/2024-08-10/crowds-gather-as-far-right-and-anti-racism-protests-expected-across-uk
Note the Palistine flag you dont see that at a far right march do you ?
Well, do you ? (Taps fingers) i’m waiting.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 10 2024 20:41 utc | 239

truth
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1822327817255747991
Tiberius @ecomarxi
Ambassadors from the US, UK, Canada, Germany, France & Italy refused to attend the Japanese ceremony in remembrance of the atomic bombs being dropped because the Israeli ambassador wasn’t invited. There is a deep sickness in the West, with imperialism and colonialism at its heart

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 10 2024 21:25 utc | 240

@ JB | Aug 10 2024 20:13 utc | 235
Thank you for the link to that article. It is an excellent explainer of the various factions and history of same in Palestine.

Posted by: teri | Aug 10 2024 21:33 utc | 241

“the horror! the horror!” – Joseph Conrad, Heart of Darkness
https://x.com/AbbyMartin/status/1822321683488719285
Abby Martin @AbbyMartin
Israel commits one of its biggest child massacres 300 days after live-streaming genocide, because it knows it can with no consequences. The world will never be able to make up for what it has allowed to the Palestinians
https://x.com/HossamShabat/status/1822278506740416826
حسام شبات @HossamShabat
On these days, I was supposed to be walking the stage, graduating from college. Instead, I’m picking up bags of charred, dismembered bodies of women and children who were killed by Israeli occupation forces.
https://x.com/HalaJaber/status/1822310019045466538
Hala Jaber @HalaJaber
🔴🔴 These are not shopping bags filled with goodies.
These are bags filled with #Palestinian human remains, killed early this morning when the Israeli Genocide Forces (IGF) bombed al-Tabaiin SCHOOL in #Gaza, where thousands of internally displaced families have been sheltering.
These are the human mangles of men, women & children, pulverised into unidentifiable pieces by bombs dropped while they performed the early morning prayers.
Many could not be identified, so hospitals are weighing the remains using a formula where every 70 kg equals a martyr.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 10 2024 21:59 utc | 242

Re: Jane 232
I do not know if all 4 were slaughtered. I don’t know the number of them they claimed to have even. It’s my understanding some confused zionist in texas bred then and also purchased land over there for a ranch or farm for the project.
It was back in March that Larry Hajioff a NY rabbi, let slip during a lecture that the ceremony was a few weeks away. Since April there has then been recorded presences at the location on the mount. He spoke of a ninth, then the tenth being killed by their messiah. I don’t have the stomach to sit through his lectures to catch up. I will link to his original 1 hour lecture as well as an abbreviated vid someone made recording and taking note of what he stated within it. I’d watch the short second link and avoid the rabbi’s content!
Original: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ87Z58jO6s
Captured vid/audio of that portion of his lecture along with an explanation of the whole cow epilogue: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=d_LTxn7xH2U quotes & vid captures begin at 5min mark if you’re not needing the backstory. I am in NO way affiliated with his video, just something that was shared with me this week.
I highly suggest the second link first, then, if you’re able to watch the rabbi’s content if you’re needing to hear more.
I in no way support either linked vid nor their other content, I’m merely answering your question and perhaps the questions of others wondering what the heck all the whack red cow talk is about.

Posted by: NJH | Aug 10 2024 22:04 utc | 243

Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 13:46 utc | 212
“Many of the ‘English Defense League” are concerned fathers because their under age daughters have been groomed by Muslim fanatics and are now drug addicts and prostitutes.”
The vast majority (if not all) of the EDL are far-right Islamaphobic racists.
Tommy Robinson was a co-founder of the EDL. Previously, he was a member of the fascist BNP (British National Party).
In 2017, American far-right billionaire Robert J. Shillman funded Robinson’s fellowship at the right-wing Canadian website Rebel News, with Robinson receiving over $6,000 (£5,000) per month. Shillman sits on the board of ‘The Friends of the Israel Defense Forces’.
In 2018 the American/Israeli Middle East Forum think tank (led by Daniel Pipes and described as “fomenting anti-Muslim sentiment”) said it had been funding rallies in Robinson’s support. He also received funding from the right-wing Yellow Vest Australia group. Robinson has also received support from some far-right pro-Israel organizations. See following link.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-are-us-pro-israel-groups-boosting-a-far-right-anti-muslim-uk-extremist/
Strange company you keep.

Posted by: Siddhartha | Aug 10 2024 22:35 utc | 244

“11 carrier groups
5.044 nuclear warheads
14.000 war jets
2.080.000 military
… and all their psycho friends
… Just that I guess.”
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 10
“2. “As of late 2021, the United States Air Force (USAF) is composed of 5217 active aircraft, making it the largest, the most technologically advanced, and the most powerful air fleet in the world.””
Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 13:10 utc | 202
I think there is some undertandable confusion here. The US Air Force (USAF) is just one branch of the US military. The Navy, Army, and Marines also have thousands of aircraft. The Navy, for example (from Google):
“As of July 18, 2023, the United States Navy had around 4,012 operational aircraft, including fighter jets and strike aircraft. This makes the Navy the second largest air force in the world, after the U.S. Air Force.”

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 10 2024 23:25 utc | 245

Wisco | Aug 10 2024 23:25 utc | 245
*** I think there is some undertandable confusion here. The US Air Force (USAF) is just one branch of the US military. The Navy, Army, and Marines also have thousands of aircraft. The Navy, for example (from Google):
“As of July 18, 2023, the United States Navy had around 4,012 operational aircraft, including fighter jets and strike aircraft. This makes the Navy the second largest air force in the world, after the U.S. Air Force.” ***
All of which must burn a vast amount of fuel.
Odd how the “global warmist” hysterics contrive to ignore that.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 10 2024 23:30 utc | 246

Here in Corvallis, OR USA I went to my support Palestine protest at the county courthouse again this week.
Number of participants is back up into the mid 20’s, mostly older like myself.
Positive response by members of the cars passing on 3 lane one-way street has increased significantly in this past week. Maybe now over 10% positive response of some sort with two middle fingers again like last week. If felt good to see the support but genocide is still happening….sigh

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 11 2024 0:49 utc | 247

Just curious to see the axis iran will take.
Syria/Golam Heights + kurdish US oil fields might be the most interesting (and burn Haifa harbor for good measure)
Yours truly, the regular Newbie you all know

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 11 2024 1:02 utc | 248

@240
It is a quiet justice that “US, UK, Canada, Germany, France & Italy did not attend the Japanese ceremony in remembrance of the atomic bombs being dropped” on Hiroshima/Nagasaki.
These colonizers facilitate Israel’s potential to explode hundreds of atomic weapons that can only recreate Hiroshima style human destruction.
Israel’s A bombs have no use against hard targets like Iran and Hezbollah present!

Posted by: paddy | Aug 11 2024 1:30 utc | 249

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 11 2024 0:49 utc | 247
Thanks for doing what you do and providing on-the-ground updates like that. Good to hear.

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 11 2024 1:44 utc | 250

Strange company you keep.
Posted by: Siddhartha | Aug 10 2024 22:35 utc | 244
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Equating all protest against the migrant inundation does not equate with membership in the EDL.
That is a pure ad hominem logic.
Just as, obviously, not all Muslim residents of the UK are supporters of Palestine, or Hamas.
Labeling large groups of people with these narrow, provocative labels is counterproductive and plays into agendas of decidedly undemocratic elites.

Posted by: Janes | Aug 11 2024 1:56 utc | 251

If felt good to see the support but genocide is still happening….sigh
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 11 2024 0:49 utc | 247
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No one can predict outcomes.
You are doing what is right.
Ilan Pappe says that citizen protest is important, and that’s good enough for me.
Our local standout is Sunday afternoons (so, tomorrow).
Response is almost uniformly positive, even though we are a smallish group.

Posted by: Jane | Aug 11 2024 2:01 utc | 252

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IljCQhUu5RE
Posted by: canuck | Aug 10 2024 12:54 utc | 198
Thanks for sharing that excellent discussion.

Posted by: Wisco | Aug 11 2024 2:07 utc | 253

psychohistorian, please don’t despair because my commendation didn’t include your public/private finance mantra. I somehow missed out on that, which may be read as a sign that you’re so spot on it becomes easy to

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 11 2024 3:03 utc | 254

Israel has chosen Sinwar by eliminating other negotiators.
Sinwar would appear to be a Qatar or Muslim Brotherhood adherent, like our trusty Erdogan who wants to send troops against Israel’s threats against Hezbullah in Lebanon.
Sinwar maybe will try to extract concessions from Netanyahu through the Israeli hostages being released.
The danger is that Netanyahu has 100% support for destroying Palestine as it now is and castrating it completely, because of domestic anger at Hamas taking the hostages.
This imho has the potential for undermining the efforts of the ICC and ICJ to blame Israel both for the violence on Oct 7 and for its genocidal response.
Political Islam believes in negotiating through strength, which of course invites its enemy to respond through strength.
What Islam teaches is for Muslims to arm themselves sufficiently to enable them to overpower their enemy.
It is possibly Russia that is armed with equal military power to USUKIS, but not Palestine or Hamas.
Netanyahu would surely choose to negotiate a totally unjust deal for Palestine with a minutely armed Hamas, than a just deal for Palestine with a nuclear- armed Russia, backed by the ICC and ICJ.
Maybe it was fake news but at the start of this war I read that Muslim Brotherhood was boasting that it would overtake Saudi Arabia in regional importance through this Oct 7 event.
Let’s say that that was a political smear about the motives of the Muslim Brotherhood, from its political enemies, like Israel. Israel has total control over the media.
My point is that Putin has followed the instruction of Islam to match and exceed your enemy’s, USUKIS’, military power.
Hamas has followed the instruction of Islam to match or exceed the IDF’s military power. The IDF are dedeated militarily and are gasping for air.
But Hamas cannot win against USUKIS without Russia. So there must be no divisions or petty political rivalry between Muslim Brotherhood and Russia, which Netanyahu , Blinken , Trump or Starmer can exploit .
Hopefully the Chinese efforts to unite the Palestinian political groups will prevent them being divided by their enemies.
Please my brothers set aside your miserable political rivalries, if you do have any, for the sake of the Palestinians , for the sake of the billions of people who are outraged at this USUKIS genocide.
For the sake of International Law and all the billions of people who purport to believe in International Law , please stand united against the continual , outrageous warmongering and Divide and Ruling of the USUKIS empire.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 11 2024 3:58 utc | 255

Below is a report from Al Manar TV reporting on Hezbollah activities on Saturday

The group’s military media issued a series of statements outlining the attacks and their outcomes:
First Operation
The initial statement declared that on Saturday, August 10, 2024, fighters of the Islamic Resistance targeted espionage equipment at the Ramia Israeli occupation site using a suicide drone, leading to its destruction.
Second Operation
The second statement reported that at 12:50 PM, the group’s fighters targeted the Al-Malkiyeh Israeli site with artillery shells, achieving direct hits.
Third Operation
The third report confirmed that at 12:48 PM on Saturday, Hezbollah fighters targeted and successfully struck a gathering of Zionist soldiers in Tal Shaar with rockets.
Fourth Operation
At 17:05 on Saturday, the group’s fighters successfully targeted and directly hit the spy equipment at the Misgav Am Israeli site, according to the fourth statement.
Fifth Operation
In response to the Israeli attacks on the steadfast southern villages, specifically the towns of Tayr Harfa and Ayta Al-Shaab, Hezbollah’s fighters launched a barrage of Katyusha rockets at the Israeli settlement of Eilon.
Sixth Operation
At 17:30 on the afternoon of Saturday, August 10, 2024, Islamic Resistance fighters precisely struck the Al-Ramtha Israeli occupation site in the Kfar Shuba Hills with rockets, according to the sixth statement.
Seventh Operation
Hezbollah’s seventh operation of the day occurred at 17:35, when fighters launched a rocket assault on the Zibdin site in the occupied Lebanese Shebaa Farms, achieving a direct hit.
Eight Operation
At 8:20 PM, Hezbollah’s valiant fighters struck a technical system on Karantina Hill with guided missiles, achieving a direct hit.
More Precise Strikes: Aerial Attack
Later on Saturday, Hezbollah’s Islamic Resistance fighters responded to the Israeli aggression and assassination in the city of Sidon by launching an aerial attack with swarms of precision drones on the “Michve Alon” Israeli military base. This base, located southwest of Safed, serves as a gathering and mobilization point for Israeli occupation forces and an emergency storage site for the Northern Legion. Hezbollah’s drones precisely targeted the positions of the base’s officers and soldiers, resulting in confirmed casualties.

Thanks for the kind words persiflo
I just try to add topical value to the web site and beat my public finance drum

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 11 2024 4:42 utc | 256

What the middleeastmonitor article shows is that Sami al Arian is the real new qatari-aligned spokeperson of the MB replacing Haniyeh.

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 7:01 utc | 258

Someone here yesterday mentioned an interview with David Hearst where a few surprising statement were made. Also MEM. Qatari hasbara.

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 7:12 utc | 259

……the 18th and 19th centuries, centered on his leadership, and his claim to be the reincarnation of the Messiah Sabbatai
helmut 116
Very rarely do I see sabbatai mentioned, and never here in my years at MOA. A first sir.
239
gordon here talks of it it but the words rarely get through. the heifers are indeed key mosaic Baal baphomet moloch
ritualistic lock step most folks here can only handle knee jerk day to day actions put forward by the Zions
the conspire collusion lock step bigger picture is off the radar
Jacob Frank and avi lockstep collective waste west cern allows the devil to ride out

Posted by: helmut | Aug 11 2024 7:21 utc | 260

Question for Giyane
Since you seem to know the various apocalyptic hadiths, what do you made of the Sinwar/Yahu deadlock? One and the same?

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 7:37 utc | 261

https://x.com/philipgiraldi/status/1822242904938565812
Philip Giraldi @philipgiraldi
Former CIA Operations officer in Europe and Middle East,
Israel is no democracy, no ally, and it is a major league war criminal with possibly hundreds of thousands of dead Palestinians as evidence of its genocidal inclinations. Several hundred Congressmen cheering war criminal Benjamin Netanyahu do not change that.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 11 2024 8:20 utc | 262

The ICC and ICJ are paid with our taxes, just as the EU oligarchy in Brussels.
Time that they realize that the people who clean their offices at 4 AM, those who drive their buses, trams and trains, are all supporting Palestine.
Let them have their pure white great replacement and full integration of Eastern Europe. I’ll invest in (Polish) vodka, sekt and gin shares and I am sure of my bet.
Time for the Middle East to create jobs.

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 8:34 utc | 263

Minaa 261
The whole of the Qur’an can be described as Apocalyptic because every word is a reminder ( Qur’an means reminder ) that our faith guides our actions and our actions guide our end result on the Day of Judgement. And on the Day of Judgement Faith exists as reality and Worldly Atoms have been switched off.
So rivalry for worldly power becomes irrelevant and rivalry for justice is all that matters.
USUKIS is an obsessive worldly cult that views God as like Christ both human , impotent and also apparently dead. So while God’s not looking , or unable to look, we grab as much booty as we like. The Qur’an reminds us in every word that the opposite is the case, God knows everything and is Omnipotent.
Netanyahu ‘s father was a professor of Nazi politics , and Netanyahu is a professor of Conservative , small n , modern nazi politics. He knows nothing whatsoever about Islam’s reminder of spirituality being the real reality.
The Muslim Brothethood was created by the British to lure Islam into small n nazism, smash and grab of military and diplomatic power.
MB and nazism are on the same side, but Netanyahu understands that MB is not the real Islam. He’s been using MB to trash West Asia for six of his seven decades.
Post Christian, post feminist, post Socialist, grannies understand more about justice and righteousness than Muslim Brotherhood and protest on the
streets of Western cities with that clear understanding of injustice in Palestine.
I may be, but maybe not, wrong about this. This is my opinion.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 11 2024 9:10 utc | 264

Aren’t some hadiths talking of prophets and their antagonists? Here we have two maniacs who think they are the hand of god or the messiah. That makes the other… the dajjal, isnt it? But as it is just a mirror of their hubris, they are in deadlock.

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 9:17 utc | 265

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 11 2024 9:10 utc | 264
Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 9:17 utc | 265
Read about the multi-generational effects of pre-conceptional human environmental stress and conditioning.
Perhaps the colonialists were already masters in psychomanipulation way back.
It is not grooming which may have involved a handful. It is graded psychological trauma to the masses that had made it a kind of multi generational low-grade PTSD. A dysfunctionality.

Posted by: joey | Aug 11 2024 10:38 utc | 266

Can you develop for the laymen?

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 11:22 utc | 267

An Israeli hasbara shill who infests this bar and actively subverts threads with off topic nonsense and pro imperialist propaganda has dismissed evidence that the white supremacist English Defence League is funded by the Israeli government propaganda network.
Kit Klarenberg provides the evidence
https://open.substack.com/pub/kitklarenberg/p/zionist-forces-behind-british-race?
Israeli funded English Defence League founder attends pro Israeli rally
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210524-far-right-extremist-tommy-robinson-rallies-in-support-of-israel/amp/
Professor David Millar exposes the Israel / EDL link
https://x.com/Tracking_Power/status/1819696060941627553

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 11 2024 12:12 utc | 268

Can you develop for the laymen?
Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 11:22 utc | 267
It is epigenetics. Parental traumatic or intimidating experiences can be transmitted to offspring over multiple generations.
I don’t believe that the colonialists were any bit smart. However, the intimidated populations, to a great extent, have inherited certain behavioral phenotypes.

Posted by: joey | Aug 11 2024 12:22 utc | 269

Video of Israeli funded English Defence League founder Stephen Yaxley Lennon, fascist criminal aka Tommy Robinson declaring he would fight for Israel “fuck Palestine” he says
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190215-far-right-tommy-robinson-declares-himself-a-zionist-in-leaked-video/

Posted by: Lev Davidovich | Aug 11 2024 12:26 utc | 270

Settlers are urged and paid to procreate, so even the anti Netan crowd has at least one relative in the army. That explains why they cant go themselves to demonstrate in front of the UN building in NY imo.
I disagree with you Joey. Anyone living in an enclave for 17 years is traumatized, full point. No need for epigenetic.
The Sefarads and Misrahim in USrahell have had no ww2 trauma. They were brainwashed by US funded sects where you find ppl from both the J and the white prot lobby. They had campaigns everywhere in the world in the late 80s. Some addressed to Jews ” the messiah is back” and you could pay to visit his place in Brooklyn and the other addressed to jews and Xians “Jews with Jesus”….
Basically, the Sefarads were too close to the Palestinians, and they spoke Arabic. On top of that they were voting Labour coz the Ashkenazim were treating them as “browns”.
Do the maths.

Posted by: Minaa | Aug 11 2024 12:30 utc | 271