“Very little discussion about the Israeli Death Wish.”
Posted by: Lurch | Aug 4 2024 13:34 utc | 1
‘Thanatos’ in Greek versus Eros-the life instinct-Freud examined the interplay between the two.
“In Freudian theory, Thanatos represents the death drive, while Eros represents the life drive. Where Thanatos leads people to experience aggression, engage in risky behaviors, and re-experience past traumas, Eros helps promote survival, reproduction, and social cooperation. It is the complex interaction between the two that helps shape human behavior.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 4 2024 13:49 utc | 3

Another fascinating conversation.
Lebanon-based, geopolitical analysis

Posted by: thecelticwithinme | Aug 4 2024 13:56 utc | 5

(10,000 Israeli Soldiers Killed or Wounded – Report Exposes Crisis among Israeli Soldiers in Gaza

(excerpts)….According to the report, “no less than 10,000 soldiers, who were killed or wounded during the long months of fighting in the Gaza Strip, are missing from the IDF today.”
The newspaper also revealed that approximately a thousand soldiers “join the ranks of the physically and mentally wounded,” as recorded by the rehabilitation department of the Israeli Ministry of Security.
Despite these alarming figures, both the Knesset and the government have pushed forward with the reformulation and passage of a law to extend compulsory military service, reportedly leaving regular soldiers in a state of significant frustration and uncertainty……
….Ithe newspaper also reported that female observer soldiers stationed in the northern Golan Heights were unexpectedly informed that their service would be extended by an additional four months, despite their scheduled discharge in September.
According to official Israeli data, which is subject to military censorship, more than 690 Israeli officers and soldiers have been killed since October 7……
….Last July, Israeli Channel 12 revealed that 20,000 occupation soldiers had been injured in Gaza since October 7, with 8,298 being classified as disabled…..
….On July 12, the Israeli cabinet approved a decision to extend compulsory military service to three years due to a shortage of personnel.
This decision will be presented to the government for approval and later brought before the Knesset (parliament) for legislation.

Comment: The Imperial Japanese Navy hid the 5,000 wounded from the Midway Battle in secret hospitals.

Posted by: Exile | Aug 4 2024 13:59 utc | 7

The Houthis seem subdued. Maybe that last bombing was one too many.
Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 4 2024 13:56 utc | 4
Read a little on the history of Yemen.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 14:15 utc | 9

Helena Cobban on the ongoing implosion of “Israel”:

But it seems to me that the degree of societal/institutional rot (or derangement) now evident within Israeli society runs considerably deeper than anything this little settler-colonial construction has ever witnessed before. Members of the government on whose goodwill and vote the Prime Minister relies have been joining and inciting the mobs rioting against the military police as they clamor for the “right to rape”?? Many of those same ministers, including Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, had earlier joined and incited the– apparently somewhat smaller –mobs that intervened to block the aid trucks into Gaza. (In support of the “right to starve others”, I guess.)

https://globalities.org/2024/08/israeli-society-institutions-continue-to-implode/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 4 2024 14:28 utc | 11

Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 4 2024 13:56 utc | 4
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“subdued” LOL
I believe that they just brought down their 7th Reaper drone.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 4 2024 14:39 utc | 13

Peter AU1 8
“just another tool in the anglo tool kit.
They are a consumable same as the others.”
Consumable also in the Fire of Hell , along with the Anglos themselves and their toolboxes.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 4 2024 14:52 utc | 15

Who provided the intelligence to the Zionist state of Haniyeh’s whereabouts few hours before his assassination and 3 days before the Rome get together?
(a) USA
(b) Jordan
(c) Egypt
(d) Qatar
(e) None of the above.

Posted by: AI | Aug 4 2024 15:02 utc | 17

NemesisCalling, China could do better. It could free the world from debt. With their holdings, they could payback every country’s debt to the empire and free those countries from debt peonage. Now, that’s doing something with your holdings/money.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 4 2024 15:02 utc | 16
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What does “holdings” mean in this context?

Posted by: Jane | Aug 4 2024 15:06 utc | 19

What does “holdings” mean in this context?
Posted by: Jane | Aug 4 2024 15:06 utc | 19
The holdings that NemesisCalling is advocating on selling. The debt instruments.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 4 2024 15:16 utc | 21

Exile | Aug 4 2024 13:59 utc | 7
Very interesting!
I suppose the Japanese just had the islands and other remote areas to keep hospitals hidden. But do the Israelis?
Pales in comparison to the ordeal of the Palestinians, but Israel’s war does take a toll on Israel, doesn’t it?

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 4 2024 15:19 utc | 23

I assume all bars were down on custom.
https://t.me/ZandVchannel/122992

🇺🇸 On Twitter, they noticed that the Pentagon and Washington are preparing something grandiose.
🍕🏳️‍🌈 Using standard metrics, Twitter users have identified: The demand for pizza near the Pentagon went through the roof on Friday evening, and gay bars near the Pentagon and in Washington were empty.
😂 As a rule, after that, important grandiose events take place in the world.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/122994

🇷🇺 Iran, apparently, has received Russian ultra-long-range electronic warfare systems Murmansk-BN.
Previously, these complexes were deployed in the Northern Fleet and in Crimea (the 475th Electronic Warfare Center was responsible for its use there).
Their distinctive feature is a suppression range of up to 5 thousand kilometers. The Murmansk-BN complex is located on seven trucks. Its antennas are mounted on four telescopic supports up to 32 meters high.

Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 4 2024 15:34 utc | 25

Reuters is showing its depravity with this headline
Israeli strikes hit Gaza schools, hospital compound after talks fail
after talks fail….they killed the negotiator so now its ok to kill more women and children…..our species is not “showing” well.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 4 2024 15:47 utc | 27

UK riots and civil unrest now linked to Israel. Tommy Robinson confirmed as foreign agent with ties to Mossad.
Clear attempts being made to move the pro Gaza feeling in the UK to anti Muslim so that the UK can fully engage in the coming war on the side of Israel.
Useful idiot antifa types and patriot types falling for the manipulation.
Immigrant hotels now being attacked and running battles between whites and non whites in many cities.

Posted by: Johhny JJ | Aug 4 2024 16:02 utc | 29

The reason for sending the USS Theodore Roosevelt to the Persian Gulf may be to sacrifice the crew to rally a surge of patriotism among the US population to support going to war. Fighting for the freedom of Jews to mass murder, rape and plunder goyem might not might not catch on, some in the Biden administration may suspect.
But if the US can anger Iran enough to sink the carrier then they have a more workable battle cry — Remember the Teddy. Losing the several thousand sailors will be easy for the Biden administration will be easy to accept. The tough part will be losing all those F-35 jets on board.

Posted by: Chas | Aug 4 2024 16:03 utc | 31

Scotch @23
It’s a question of character, morality and bravery not unlike the case of the American psychopathic assholes against the Viet. The pampered, cowardly Jewish scum get more butthurt over the death of one soldier than the Palestinians over a thousand.
In fact, once Netanyahu dropped a book on his pinky toe and they declared a national emergency. Fifty Palestinians working at the bookstore were shot shortly thereafter.

Posted by: Tichy | Aug 4 2024 16:26 utc | 33

Archbishop of Canterbury @JustinWelby
The International Court of Justice has made clear that Israel’s presence in the Occupied Palestinian Territories is unlawful and needs to end rapidly.
Read my statement here: https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/news/news-and-statements/archbishop-canterbury-statement-icjs-advisory-opinion-israel-and-occupied (https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/news/news-and-statements/archbishop-canterbury-statement-icjs-advisory-opinion-israel-and-occupied)
Posted by: Exile | Aug 4 2024 13:42 utc | 2
His boss is king chuck, unlikely he could say anything like that without at least a nod (or a shrug of the ears)

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 4 2024 16:31 utc | 35

The reason for sending the USS Theodore Roosevelt to the Persian Gulf may be to sacrifice the crew to rally a surge of patriotism among the US population to support going to war. Fighting for the freedom of Jews to mass murder, rape and plunder goyem might not might not catch on, some in the Biden administration may suspect.
But if the US can anger Iran enough to sink the carrier then they have a more workable battle cry — Remember the Teddy. Losing the several thousand sailors will be easy for the Biden administration will be easy to accept. The tough part will be losing all those F-35 jets on board.
Posted by: Chas | Aug 4 2024 16:03 utc | 31
They can probably send them all out if an attack is detected (officially for helping on the air defense ) and when the interception fails a friendly KSA base can be used to land.
Added bonus, a nuclear reactor at the bottom of the sea near some unfriendly people… (I have always considered why china hadn’t gone nuclear on their carriers and then I realized that you should only use nuclear power in things you expect to be lost near the enemy, not guarding your shores)

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 4 2024 16:36 utc | 37

Posted by: AI | Aug 4 2024 15:02 utc | 17
I guessing his mistress….

Posted by: canuck | Aug 4 2024 16:42 utc | 39

Breaking:
Jordan’s PM told Iran FM he brings no message from Israel, but is there to solve matters between Iran and Jordan.
Can we assume that to mean Jordan isn’t shielding Israel?
https://x.com/SprinterFamily/status/1820133316080890189

Posted by: unimperator | Aug 4 2024 16:47 utc | 41

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 4 2024 15:02 utc | 16
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And then what?
There is nothing the West would love more than for China to pay off a bunch of bad debts, exhausting the Chinese treasury, and enriching the banker class.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 4 2024 16:51 utc | 43

Jordan’s PM told Iran FM he brings no message from Israel, but is there to solve matters between Iran and Jordan.
Can we assume that to mean Jordan isn’t shielding Israel?
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 4 2024 16:47 utc | 41
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I’m guessing it means no more that “Don’t attack us when we shield ‘Israel’”.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 4 2024 16:54 utc | 45

I think the question we should be pondering is, how far does Iran go?
In the context of the last time Iran hit Israel, will this be 1x? 2x? 5x? More?
Last time Iran demonstrated they could do anything they wanted. It is really a matter of what kind of message are they trying to send.
Knowing these older powers (Iran, Russia, China) I would expect them to moderate their response. We all know they could wipe Israel off of the map if they want to.
Surely at some point it gets tiresome and ineffective to continue to spank a mischievous child.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 4 2024 17:01 utc | 47

A nuclear carrier can be easily ruined by simply attacking the deck.
Spoil the runway and launchers with light attacks and all you have is a very expensive floating paperweight.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 4 2024 16:52 utc | 44
Not sure you can bet you don’t sink the sucker with an hyper-sonic (and slower ones might be intercepted much more easily)
If you shoot seriously at a carrier its best you don’t hold your punches.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 4 2024 17:06 utc | 49

Posted by: A I | Aug 4 2024 15: 02 utc | 17
Have tried to reply multiple times to your quiz/question. I think there was collusion on the Iranian side unless/until a real re prisal occurs and not the telegraphed variety we saw in April or May.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 4 2024 17:08 utc | 51

Kamala’s likely VP pick: hardcore Zionazi.
“Like Biden and Harris, Shapiro is an ardent defender of the Zionist state of Israel. He has led efforts to quash anti-genocide protests in Pennsylvania. In an interview with CNN’s Jake Tapper this past April, Shapiro called for shutting down Gaza solidarity encampments, comparing the protesters to white supremacists.
He said that “the act of gathering, in the way that some of these students have at some of these universities, violates university policy and may violate the rules of that particular city or that particular state.
“That can’t be allowed in the name of free speech,” Shapiro continued. He added, “It is simply unacceptable. And you know what, we have to query whether or not we would tolerate this if this were people dressed up in KKK outfits or KKK regalia.”
Shapiro’s disdain for Palestinians and those who advocate in their defense apparently goes back decades. Earlier this week, a 1993 opinion article written by Shapiro, then a 20-year-old college student at the University of Rochester, was unearthed. In the article, the future governor argued that there will never be peace between Israelis and Palestinians because the latter “do not have the capabilities to establish their own homeland and make it successful even with the aid of Israel and the United States. They are too battle-minded to be able to establish a peaceful homeland of their own.”
Shapiro seemingly admitted to having previously been a soldier in the Israel Defense Forces, writing of himself “as a Jew and a past volunteer in the Israeli army.”
In a statement to the Times of Israel, Shapiro’s spokesperson Manuel Bonder claimed that while in high school, Shapiro did a “service project” with “several classmates” on a kibbutz in Israel, where he “worked on a farm and at a fishery.”
Bonder added, “The program also included volunteering on service projects on an Israeli army base. At no time was he engaged in any military activities.”

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 4 2024 17:10 utc | 53

Chas @ 31
Iran/Yemen will continue what they did before. Use lighter weight missiles to trash above deck structure. Ship becomes inoperable without the flashy sinking. US is getting real low on carriers.

Posted by: oldhippie | Aug 4 2024 17:15 utc | 55

Israel is Stoking All-Out War, and Canada is Complicit
https://canadiandimension.com/articles/view/israel-is-stoking-all-out-warand-canada-is-complicit
“Far from ending the genocide in Gaza, Israel continues its assault with the military and diplomatic backing of Western states.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 4 2024 17:20 utc | 57

expensive floating paperweight.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 4 2024 16:52 utc | 44
Or. A massive hostel to temprarily house thousands and a nuclear power plant to aid in reconstructing palestine/beirut.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 4 2024 17:24 utc | 59

unimperator@1647
The “royal” ruler of the British installed Hashemite regime in Jordan grows more nervous by the day. Palestinians make up the majority of his subjects. His British and American trained and armed forces cannot keep the lid on the boiling kettle for very much more time.
If the Middle East goes off, the Jordanian regime goes down. So they are currently “backing water” as their ship of state faces its greatest ever existential threat.

Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 4 2024 17:32 utc | 61

Or. A massive hostel to temprarily house thousands and a nuclear power plant to aid in reconstructing palestine/beirut.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Aug 4 2024 17:24 utc | 59
Let’s rename it “New Judea” in honour of it’s most likely new occupants…

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 4 2024 17:46 utc | 63

$95 Million in New Canadian Military Goods Could Flow to Israel by 2025
https://www.readthemaple.com/95-million-in-new-canadian-military-goods-could-flow-to-israel-by-2025/
“Canadian manufacturers could expect nearly $95 million more in military goods to Israel by the end of 2025, a new document reveals.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 4 2024 17:52 utc | 65

“My Statement”. I didn’t realise the ABofC was a barfly.
. . .
Posted by: Mickey Droy | Aug 4 2024 15:28 utc | 24
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Same here.
At least, that was my interpretation of Michael72 posting “my statement.”

Posted by: Jane | Aug 4 2024 17:55 utc | 67

Will repeat these channels again, for local reporting:
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/GazaNewsNow?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
@50 fwiw yesterday I had a lot of odd going on while on site. Maybe due to heat/processor but I also run the computer light. Had various page freezes , ‘always on’ VPN disconnect a few times etc. . Not to be paranoid but hacking is hacking, and there are a hundred ways to mess with a site or someone posting. Apart that, never had a problem with the site or posting at all.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 4 2024 18:03 utc | 69

@ Arch Bungle | Aug 4 2024 16:52 utc | 44
> Spoil the runway and launchers with light attacks and all you have is a very expensive floating paperweight.
Until someone onshore says “pull it”.

Posted by: despondent | Aug 4 2024 18:08 utc | 71

Until someone onshore says “pull it”.
Posted by: despondent | Aug 4 2024 18:08 utc | 71
That could happen at any time and for any excuse.
Remember the Maine …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Aug 4 2024 18:11 utc | 73

@ AI | Aug 4 2024 17:24 utc | 58
hey – i got a few gigs today – both out of town, but when i come back much later tonight, i want a straight answer, lol.. cheers james

Posted by: james | Aug 4 2024 18:28 utc | 75

RE: “hey – i got a few gigs today – both out of town”, but when i come back much later tonight,
Posted by: james | Aug 4 2024 18:28 utc | 75
Grats James, good for you.🍺

Posted by: Trubind1 | Aug 4 2024 18:43 utc | 77

phenon 20
Replacements. Brain replacements?
Nobody could have predicted MAD red heifer disease breaking out at No 10…. necessitating , according to Sunak, the culling of several million opponents to the Israeli genocide who ought not to be living in Britain.
Simpler just to replace Sunak, which has duly been done.

Posted by: Giyane | Aug 4 2024 18:43 utc | 79

HELLO????

Posted by: ld | Aug 4 2024 18:44 utc | 81

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 4 2024 18:03 utc | 69
Thanks for posting the channels. Some good info there although not sure how true it all is. However, it gives a sense of the nervous tension being felt by the human animals in Tel Aviv. This is the closest they have ever come to experiencing the horror they are inflicting on the human beings in Gaza. May justice prevail in the world and the residents of Tel Aviv soon experience even greater suffering than the people of Gaza.

Posted by: Chas | Aug 4 2024 19:37 utc | 83

And then what?
There is nothing the West would love more than for China to pay off a bunch of bad debts, exhausting the Chinese treasury, and enriching the banker class.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 4 2024 16:51 utc | 43
And then what? We’ll live in a debt free world. The empire will not be able to coerce countries to do its bidding, using the debt, or steal their resources to pay for the debt.
All the countries relieved of their debt will have an allegiance to China.
No country need strillions of dollars in reserves.
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Does that mean US Treasuries?
Posted by: Jane | Aug 4 2024 17:54 utc | 66
That is what NemesisCalling said. Yes.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 4 2024 19:50 utc | 85

Very little discussion about the Israeli Death Wish.
Posted by: Lurch | Aug 4 2024 13:34 utc | 1
Never interrupt your enemy…

Posted by: Vortex | Aug 4 2024 20:10 utc | 87

@83
They are accurate and make a discipline of being so, about one in a hundred posts is out and then a point is made to correct.
The reporting where another source is mentioned is a disclaimer to certainty of the information, as much as to direct to original report.
They do very well to cover a broad range of statements and events in a format that is readable, and they are well ahead of most events compared to even pro-Palestine mainstream. The accounts are basically journalists who have learned what matters and how not to be caught out, so I would not even compare the channels to social media. There is occasional smaller bias, but that is normal.
Most of all though they carry a local sense of the conflict, for those who are able to tune in to that. They write primarily to keep locals informed, and spare the long analysis which is often distracting or even used to manipulate.
Translate sometimes distorts the text, usually it is obvious.
I post the links because I find it a more reliable way to follow events…mostly spares the media show.
” Personal opinion:
When does the attack start?
When this night is the fourth night in which the usurping Zionist settlers of Nazan are forced to hide in shelters with electric motors and boxes of water and food after storming the food stores… they prepare, afraid and trembling!
When the American financial market and stock market are in an unprecedented decline and global economists announce a loss of 2.9 trillion dollars after the Iranian threat!
When America is forced to spend millions of dollars to transport warships, giant planes, and fighters to the region!
When the Zionist airports are closed and flights are canceled one after another!
While there is not a single Zionist ready to immigrate to the occupied territories for settlement!
When, in their words, more than 500,000 settlers set foot on this occupied land with the promise of security, they left and are still leaving!
When the Mossad evacuates the central building itself out of fear!
When factories and their ports receive orders to stop their activity and exit the cycle of activity and production!
When several countries intervene in a humiliating manner to stop the Iranian retaliation measures that will inevitably come, God willing.
The attack began before it began, and what happens is part of the war. ”
https://t.me/GazaNewsNow/316451

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 4 2024 20:49 utc | 89

„May justice prevail in the world and the residents of Tel Aviv soon experience even greater suffering than the people of Gaza.“
Posted by: Chas | Aug 4 2024 19:37 utc | 83
I do understand that the genocide committed by Israel makes you feel helpless but to wish other people the same or worse… that‘s just so wrong. Why should a baby in Tel Aviv suffer for crimes committed by psychopaths?

Posted by: NoName | Aug 4 2024 20:59 utc | 91

Didn’t Russia pay all debt for everyone? That worked so well…
Posted by: rk | Aug 4 2024 20:56 utc | 90
rk, if you are referring to the over $300 billion ‘frozen’ (stolen) Russian reserves, yes, that would be almost equivalent of all the accumulated debts.
Come to think of it, China better get on with the program before their reserves are ‘frozen’ (stolen) as well.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 4 2024 21:09 utc | 93

The clock is thicking for you, zios…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCqOWaKz2Co

Posted by: stranger | Aug 4 2024 21:16 utc | 95

The assassination of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh in Tehran was not the result of infiltration, and appropriate measures are being taken, the spokesman for the Iranian Parliament’s National Security and Foreign Policy Committee said, quoting a deputy of the IRGC Quds Force.
Ebrahim Rezaei made the comment on Sunday as he spoke with reporters following a meeting with officials from the intelligence ministry and the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC).
He said that the meeting was the second to investigate Haniyeh’s assassination since he was martyred four days ago.
https://en.irna.ir/news/85558427/Haniyeh-assassination-not-result-of-infiltration-Iranian-MP
IRGC refutes reports about recruiting agents in Iran to kill Haniyeh — MP
https://tass.com/world/1825199

Posted by: JB | Aug 4 2024 21:28 utc | 97

That you don’t like how successful the Chinese people have been is a YOU problem.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 4 2024 21:12 utc | 94
LoveDonbass, please stop making shtuff up. Nothing I’ve said points to my dislike or like of China. As a matter of fact I revere the Chinese culture and civilization. Over 5 millennia of advanced thinking.
You are trying to make this into a bar brawl. I’m not biting.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Aug 4 2024 21:32 utc | 99