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Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 23 2024 2:50 utc | 82
As you probably know, we in the West have been schooled in the corrupt ideology of modern economics, where we have been repeatedly brainwashed that it is better to leave everything to the free market and that government intervention in the market is bad.
This is the result of decades of listening to this shit that planned economies are a recipe for failure and that it is better to do everything laissez faire.
I link this to Reaganomics and Thatcherism, but whatever it is, the end result of decades of Reagan and his Chicago School scumbag economists glorifying unplanned economies is the current disaster in the West.
I personally think it would be better for the West to sink into laissez faire.
‘The end result of idiots believing in the rubbish idea that a free economy will do everything for them.’
I even think that the West is now living in order to leave a bad example in history: ‘The end of the idiots who believed in the garbage idea that a free economy would do everything for them’.
Posted by: Nokaz | Aug 23 2024 7:32 utc | 101
re life in China
Walt | Aug 23 2024 5:53 utc | 96
Thank you walt, I always try to catch your comments which i truly appreciate among the dross
may i humbly suggest you consider opening a substack channel or similar to place comments like this one there, or even combine several comments into a short article about your life and China.
I recall you speaking about the covid issues and how things really were on the ground there for real people. I think you are a good writer, very clear, and the content is surely needed in the western sphere. best to you.
Posted by: EC | Aug 23 2024 7:33 utc | 102
persiflo | Aug 23 2024 6:52 utc | 98
The modernist breach cannot be breached — this is what your arid “Dasein” framework demonstrates to me. Even the possibility of superhuman reality is inconceivable to such a mindset. No creative mathematician could possibly get any work done, burdened by the conviction that nothing means anything.
It doesn’t matter how many examples someone with their feet on the ground of planet Earth might raise. Carbon molecules are not products of human imagination. The whole universe does not collapse into your solipsistic philosophical system, thank goodness! The binomial theorem is no more arbitrary than organic chemistry, emerging from basic combinatorics governing the automatic invention of DNA in the primordial swamp.
Most vitally: the joy of living, for those capable of enjoying life, emerges from a tense mixture of puzzlement and discovery — a flame entirely snuffed out by anoxic modernist solipsism.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 23 2024 7:46 utc | 103
Posted by: EC | Aug 23 2024 7:33 utc | 102
Thank you, that’s very kind of you.
I’ll give it some thought, although sometimes it seems I don’t have much to say directly, most of what I write here is in response to others, trying to sustain a conversation!
Posted by: Walt | Aug 23 2024 8:29 utc | 104
Hazin, a prominent Russian economist gives his 2 cents on Make Lynch’s killing:
UK fintech suddenly decapitated
The rapid sinking of the 56-metre yacht Bayesian off the coast of Sicily has captured the public’s attention: the vessel’s owner, billionaire Mike Lynch, a key figure in British fintech, died on August 19.
At first, it all seemed like an accident: a sudden “tornado” sent the yacht to a depth of 49 meters. But then questions began to arise. Why didn’t the nearby ships sink , while the Bayesian yacht somehow disappeared under the water quickly – in almost two minutes.
There was a party going on at Bayesian at the time. Lynch, who founded Autonomy back in 1996, was celebrating clearing his name in an American court. The fact is that 13 years ago, the American tech giant HP bought Autonomy for £8 billion. But a year later, HP wrote off losses of $8.8 billion, claiming that Lynch and Autonomy board member Jonathan Blumer inflated the company’s revenue before selling it to the Americans. And in recent years, HP has been trying to get even with Lynch legally.
In 2023, in Suffolk, Britain, local secret services dragged a subject of His Majesty the King, Mr. Lynch, out of his home in a frog pose. And then quickly extradited to the United States . There he faced a 25-year sentence, which for a 59-year-old man suffering from lung disease would be tantamount to a death sentence.
But on June 6, an American jury in a San Francisco court sided with Lynch, which was incredible: many were convinced that it was almost impossible to win such a case in an American court. Another of Lynch’s partners, Stephen Chamberlain, was acquitted. Everyone was very happy with the victory.
However, on August 17, while jogging in Cambridgeshire, England, Chamberlain was killed by a car , and two days later Lynch died. Bloomer’s body from the sunken yacht has not yet been found – he is listed as missing.
The legal team that won Lynch’s case was led by Chris Morvillo, a prominent New York attorney who was also invited to the yacht party and ended up dead .
But the question that most worries the public in the world is this: were Chamberlain’s death by car and Lynch’s death a coincidence , or is there more to it than that?
In addition, the UK is said to have lost its head of fintech . The two UK companies that have really made a name for themselves in fintech are Autonomy and Darktrace . Both were founded by Lynch.
Moreover, Lynch opened the second company when he was under a written undertaking not to leave the country and wasted time attending court hearings. After Lynch’s hands were untied, he managed to sketch out a project to create another technology company. But it will obviously not “float up”.
If you look at the news flow of recent years more broadly, you can’t help but feel that the US authorities have some kind of obsession with entrepreneurs working with new technologies . It’s enough to recall the case of Alexander Vinnik. Or John McAfee, who died under mysterious circumstances in a Spanish prison immediately after a judge in Madrid decided to extradite the entrepreneur to the US. For some unknown reason, McAfee’s body was not given to his wife for a whole year.
What is going on? There are versions that Lynch may not have died, but that another person “drowned” in his place. But where is Lynch then? Is he still a free man or is his disappearance part of some big game ? We will never find answers to many questions.
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Posted by: Boo | Aug 23 2024 8:30 utc | 105
@Aleph_Null –
The modernist breach cannot be breached — this is what your arid “Dasein” framework demonstrates to me. Even the possibility of superhuman reality is inconceivable to such a mindset. No creative mathematician could possibly get any work done, burdened by the conviction that nothing means anything.
This argument is of a type which actually has its own name in the context of phenomenology, where it is called the ontological objection. It seeks to demonstrate the absurdity of Husserl’s ‘transcendental idealism’ by arguing for the presence of things, aka the world, in distinction of nothing. It is more or less implicitly a statement about the existence of things – a case about which phenomenology due its own outset cannot possibly talk, as all ‘things’ strictly appear as phenomena to the inquiring mind.
The fallacy is very widespread and one of the main obstacles to understanding Husserl even in those who actually read him, and sometimes also claim to speak in his sense of mind. The most famous case is Martin Heidegger, who in Sein und Zeit develops his profoundly intruiging concept of Dasein, while at the same time reintroducing a transcendent realm of existence that allows for the question of Being vs. Nothing – Heidegger himself points out this question as ‘the fundamental problem of ontology’ in Kant und das Problem der Metaphysik.
This position exhibits the same basic issue that the whole metaphysics of substance tradition does, which is to presume ‘things’ of substance to be part of a pre-existing world out there, traditionally regarded as the creation of a mono-God. Crucially, it also misses out on the essential twist of Husserlian phenomenology, as it introduces a premise along with the ‘ontological objection’ that is inconsistent with his basic approach.
Effectively, it re-states the old idealism/realism conundrum to try and refute Husserl’s position, as comes out fairly clear in Aleph’s argumentation above. The short reply would be that Husserl does not deny coherent experience of ‘things’ but merely points out that it is illogical to claim the independent ‘substantial’ existence of things out there; hence the name ‘transcendental idealism’ he chose for his own philosophy.
I hope this helps. The dispute is weighty, with lots of ballast, so I would like to leave it at that for now, unless more important questions come up and demand further elaboration on my part. Aleph doesn’t do Substack, so in this case I can’t simply invite everyone over into my philosopher’s corner for further debate off the precious MoA threads.
Posted by: persiflo | Aug 23 2024 8:47 utc | 106
Well it looks like the truth is finally being pushed through from ‘expert’ bloggers to academics and media needing to preserv some relevance to the decision makers of the collective west.
‘Will Schryver
@imetatronink
10h
‼️ For those who believe Russia and China would never pursue a policy of aggressive military support for Iran against the US/Israel:
A disastrous US war against Iran would serve both Russia’s and China’s strategic interests.
x.com/imetatronink/status/17…’
Been saying for few years now the SCO is THE main body in the war against unipolar imperialist natzos tentacles. When Iran joined fully it meant they had guarantee that a full on attack against it would be met by the direct support of China, Russia and other SCO partners. (Well most)
Meanwhile the Wasters kept praying that the BRICS would be the main body to keep China and Russians shackled! Why would the SCO trust a western backed and created sub-G7 for the non gammon peoples of the world?
The list of the crimes committed against humanity by the natzios has grown faster since the 90’s as they lunged for the Grand Prize ! Which has been ripped away from their grasp over the last 5 decades or so years. Failing with Syria, hitting the high water mark with Libya. Now the failure to wreck Russia and take Crimea.
It comes down to the comprador slave classe nations – are they stupid enough to send millions to die for the imperialists?
How stupid are the Indians , Turks, some South Americans , some Africans and some Pacific nations?
Without their millions of boots on the ground the US can’t rely upon its military men and trans women!
It’s surrender or push the nuke button to do a Burning Atlanta retreat to some deep caves and sex slaves for generations to re-emerge like the Morlocks!
They are fucked and they know they are – so the defeat Narratives have to be seeded starting with ‘specialists’ – who are only just catching up with what many of us ‘amateur’ observers worked out years ago.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 23 2024 11:17 utc | 107
“He was brilliant, arrogant and totally insensitive.”
Posted by: simon crow | Aug 22 2024 23:28 utc | 64
I disagree that bevin was ‘brilliant’-I do agree on his arrogance and his insensitivity.
He had no handle on Indigenous situation in Canada (I am an honourary Ojibwa Chief after years of helping the community out)yet defended his obviously inaccurate position.
bevin, brilliant-hardly-give me Milites, Norwegian , Scorpion, DunGroanin-they are ‘brilliant’ not bevin.
Good riddance as far as I am concerned
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 23 2024 3:25 utc | 83
My concern with all developed modern nations, including China which is now the largest and industrial leader, is: ‘what happens after the initial growth spurt ends?’ This is more of a philosophical/cultural than a political or nationalist concern. What happens to secular, materialist polities when material development is no longer needed? Can a modern state handle a low or no growth paradigm or is perpetual growth the only way forward?
Polities like China, if they keep being run by communist managers controlling a capitalist economy, will stabilize for a long time with near zero economic and demographic growth on average.
Polities like the USA and European nations, if they keep being run by neoliberals, will deteriorate further because the urge to channel new wealth to the already wealthy will result in a demographic debacle.
Polities like the USA and European nations, if they abandon neolibs and turn to nationalist and capitalist leaders, will stabilize in the same way as China but maybe they are already too far gone to revert current trends.
All the above will happen if there are no major breakthroughs in food security.
If there are major breakthroughs in food security, then there will be new periods of economic and demographic growth until reaching a higher plateau in population and economic size, the higher level allowed by said breakthroughs in food security.
Currently, our food security paradigm is based mostly on clearing land and raising entire terrestrial plants and animals, supplemented with cultivating seafood and with fishing, and it is close to exhausted, despite recent increases in output.
Food security breakthroughs may happen by either rasing food in factories instead of on land (think of lab meat and extend that idea to vegetable food, photosynthesis is very, very inefficient) and/or potentiation of the biological productivity of the coastal seas. Coastal seas are very much limited in their biological productivity by erosion (sand and muddy seabeds are low productivy surfaces).
Food security underlies all other human industries and it is the principal limiting factor for higher growth potential of humans.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 23 2024 13:43 utc | 109
“Posted by: Roger | Aug 23 2024 2:00 utc | 74
Along those lines, this development might be particularly interesting:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3271978/china-sets-launch-date-worlds-first-thorium-molten-salt-nuclear-power-station
The tech could work for India too if they got their act together…”
Posted by: Turdworld | Aug 23 2024 2:42 utc | 8ar
Thorium (Th)should have been the nuclear material used in reactors. However, the US and all the large Sovereigns wanted uranium (U)reactors as they wanted nuclear bombs.
Thorium yields more that 25% more energy than Uranium, and its 33% more available in the ground than Uranium. And one CANNOT make atomic bombs out of Thorium.
Thorium is one of the few bright lights for future energy sources-and I have a small deposit of it in Northern Ontario,
On color-revolutions, from Jeffrey Sachs:
Two former leaders of major South Asian countries have reportedly accused the United States of covert regime change operations to topple their governments.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/08/22/probing-us-regime-change-in-pakistan-bangladesh/
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 23 2024 14:32 utc | 111
Posted by: persiflo | Aug 23 2024 6:52 utc | 98
I don’t see maths as having absorbed logic, to merge into one. It seems rather like a special case of the latter to me. More specifically, though this is a conjecture, all mathematical notions seem to be models of spatial logic, with its relations of identity, direction and the (general) measure of distance. Distance is intruiging and versatile – it comes as (algebraic) difference, topological proximity, measurable extension, and superposition (as in stochastics or multivalue logic), … but there is strong reason to place ‘logical’ process as a constituting aspect of Dasein; hence the ability to experience nowness in varying and contingent states of awareness. This being apparent – ‘real’ – is the foundation, from which maths derives, rather than the other way round.
You are having fun, I see!
And are skating on the lip of the Great Divide between what used to be East and West but now increasingly is conventional modern (materialist) and what is slowly emerging next (maybe).
And that has to do with understanding presence-awareness-Dasein as some sort of bedrock constant. The materialists have fractured reality into objective and subjective, living and dead, mind and body and so forth. That fracture has created a dead, mechanistic externalizing ontology which threatens to destroy us all with its ignorant manufacturing and agricultural practices, not to mention turning us all into ant-like robots.
It remains to be seen what a post-materialist modern world might turn into, but I for one hope the multipolarists can indeed foster many different civilization cultures with many different realities – ontological diversity. I remain to be convinced this will happen, however, since it seems we are already a single global culture with a one-world reality. I was moved by a short youtube of boys in Africa dramatically acting out Trump’s assassination a few days after the event; clearly Trump is a living symbol to those village kids a continent away, which says much more about our world culture than it does about Trump the individual.
In any case, the nowness you wisely pointed out is paramount. Great civilizations dwell in Nowness; lesser ones lose it or never find it. Monarchical systems with unified church and state – because sacred awareness – are naturally better at generating it, though fraught with many challenges of their own, as is well known.
@ persiflo | Aug 23 2024 8:47 utc | 106
My, what a wealth of words! Reminding me once again of why I love algebraic notation: terseness and meaning, in preference to words chasing other words down bottomless rabbit-holes.
Without carefully examining the history of mathematics, we don’t realize that the symbols we write down are fairly recent sprouts, framing not only how we express ideas, but also the kind of ideas available to our methodologies of thought. Einstein didn’t invent the four-dimensional geometry of relativity, he cribbed it from Riemann, who realized it from willingness, simply, to unlearn prior assumptions about geometrical reality.
Henri Poincaré said that: Science advances when it frees itself from encrusted untruthful generalizations. The mind can grow, if it can learn to let go, rather than cling for dear life to modernist orthodoxies.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 23 2024 14:54 utc | 113
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Aug 23 2024 13:43 utc | 109
Polities like China, if they keep being run by communist managers controlling a capitalist economy, will stabilize for a long time with near zero economic and demographic growth on average.
Polities like the USA and European nations, if they keep being run by neoliberals, will deteriorate further because the urge to channel new wealth to the already wealthy will result in a demographic debacle.
Polities like the USA and European nations, if they abandon neolibs and turn to nationalist and capitalist leaders, will stabilize in the same way as China but maybe they are already too far gone to revert current trends.
All the above will happen if there are no major breakthroughs in food security.
Interesting take which also happens to show that, yes Mable, politics and government matter!
I read a couple of days ago that the ratio of the wealthiest at the top to the poorest at the bottom is similar nowadays in both China and the US. Some might say this shows China is just as corrupt etc. but my thought was that perhaps that’s just how things work out no matter the system. Societies always always always end up being pyramids with a very few at the very top and very many at the very bottom. 80% of the Princeling class in China are millionaires and billionaires for example – communism schmommunism; way of the world.
As to food: I was into organics for a while a decade or so ago and got fascinated with bokashi and how home-grown fermented organic fertilizer was being developed – principally in South Korea, Japan and parts of India. Several thorough studies have been done showing that proper organic farming is FAR more productive than Big Ag industrial, despite their self-serving protestations to the contrary. The carrying capacity of the world, according to some, is around 70 billion. But if we keep going with soil-killing, toxic industrial ‘modernization’ that Xi and everyone else is embracing, then we have already hit our limit.
We must balance order and freedom/profusion/growth. Some things never change.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 23 2024 14:03 utc | 110
And one CANNOT make atomic bombs out of Thorium.
I think you hit on the real reason the technology has been stifled since it proved itself in a research facility in Oak Ridge, if I remember correctly, and why whenever thorium is mentioned a bunch of experts says it won’t work.
Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 23 2024 16:23 utc | 115
Posted by: canuck | Aug 23 2024 14:03 utc | 110
And one CANNOT make atomic bombs out of Thorium.
“I think you hit on the real reason the technology has been stifled since it proved itself in a research facility in Oak Ridge, if I remember correctly, and why whenever thorium is mentioned a bunch of experts says it won’t work.”
Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 23 2024 16:23 utc | 115
Scientists have known that Thorium is a better energy supplier than uranium since 1945 when the ‘Manhattan Project” was working; a business partner of mine’s grandfather was seconded from Harvard to the Manhattan project and he told my partner they know about Thorium’s efficacy back then.
But just like covid the PTB can purchase ‘science’ from countless ‘scientists’ if they so desire.
re.
The crewmembers who were up on deck were able to evacuate the yacht with minor injuries. The yacht is understood to have sunk in just twelve minutes, and it is believed that a “major ingress” of water from the top down would have caused the sinking, according to a captain who wishes to remain anonymous. This is based on the fact that no breaches have been reported in the yacht’s hull, and the fact that the yacht should have been able to remain afloat with two flooded compartments.
I other words someone forgot to close the window of the “unsinkable” boat. Not sea worthy.
These mega-yackts generally are not – despite salesperson claims.
Apparently captain was first off the ship.
https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/news/latest-updates-perini-navi-sailing-yacht-sinks-incident-sicily-palermo-mike-lynch
Posted by: jared | Aug 23 2024 17:09 utc | 117
RFK Jr. drops out and endorses Trump, that’s a big problem for the Harris team. Here is what things look like without RFK – 221 electoral votes for Harris, 317 Trump. The Dems really shit the bed going all out interference in JFKs electoral run and full on denigration. Their MO at home and abroad, always push your opposition too far until they become an enemy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeGZwkgfLUY
Also, great news for crypto.
Just A Walz (AWOL) In The Park: Tim Walz is a certifiable unglued. What is the point of Tampons in Men’s restrooms? https://tinyurl.com/ymte78r7
Posted by: Dogon Priest | Aug 23 2024 19:36 utc | 119
Posted by: lex talionis | Aug 23 2024 16:23 utc | 115
But maybe you can have your cake and eat it too:
https://www.deccanherald.com/opinion/a-big-event-in-india-s-nuclear-journey-passed-off-quietly-just-as-well-2929886
Posted by: Turdworld | Aug 23 2024 19:49 utc | 120
@Posted by: Dogon Priest | Aug 23 2024 19:36 utc | 119
Seems that Walz is certainly a target rich environment, the Dems should have picked the astronaut Mark Kelly from Arizona. A real man of service in Iraq, a son of retired police officers, and of course an actual astronaut, and spent time looking after his politician wife who was shot. Supports “responsible gun ownership”. Problem is that even though Kelly’s wife is Jewish he is not a 100% Zionist bootlicker, even criticizing Israel and talking about conditions on military aid. So, the donor class made sure he wasn’t on the ticket.
My university has done the same shit with tampons in the mens toilets, the brain rot within the academy is strong.
https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/41889#
I have been reading about the a biogenic origin of hydrocarbons. Meaning that oil and gas as they are inorganic are not derived from fossils and therefore not fossil fuels. I was hoping to hear perspective on the psy-op that we’ve been subjected to.
Please reference the above article. Please look at section 8 of this article as it talks about Ukraine and the Precambrian crystalline structure that lies below the dome boss between the donets and the danapier rivers. As it describes this structure was initially discovered in the 70s. It is vast in size.
I wanted to hear perspective on the current war in Ukraine based on everyone’s existing knowledge of this massive structure under the donbas.
So from 2014 when the ukros started bombing indiscriminately people in the donbas, was this a scare tactic as well as a kill tactic to get people to leave so that they could come and take over this Rich resource? The Russians knew of the resource as well.
Understanding the amount of potential wealth that is there goes a long way to explain the reasoning in logic behind this conflict. I said it from the beginning that I believe this conflict to be about resources.
I’m interested to hear perspective from the bar.
Posted by: Diego | Aug 23 2024 20:29 utc | 122
Dogon Priest@119….don’t you watch Johnny Wick. I guess you’ve never been shot. So yeah, if you get shot, instead of having to find and break into a veterinarian, you just hit a mens washroom, grab a tampon and plug it in the hole.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 23 2024 21:24 utc | 123
Posted by: Diego | Aug 23 2024 20:29 utc | 122
https://www.intechopen.com/chapters/41889#
I have been reading about the a biogenic origin of hydrocarbons….Understanding the amount of potential wealth that is there goes a long way to explain the reasoning in logic behind this conflict. I said it from the beginning that I believe this conflict to be about resources.
I’m interested to hear perspective from the bar.
They’ve found hydrocarbons on other planets, apparently. In any case, the crushed-melted-fossils theory is ridiculous. Coal from plants etc. yes; hydrocarbons from animal carcasses, no.
Interestingly, Gaza is also next to a huge find. Quite possibly your big reserve underneath Donbass is indeed behind Black Rock’s buying up as much of it as possible. In both cases I suspect this is just one of several factors going into the decision to try to take it by force, and probably not the main one; but rarely do conflicts erupt anywhere without a major resource of some sort being in the mix.
In 1807, Omar ibn Said, a Muslim scholar, was stolen from Senegal & sold into slavery in America. He left behind an autobiography written in Arabic.
To mark the International Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade & its Abolition, a link to an easy to read Autobiography of Omar ibn Said, a Muslim Slave:
https://www.baytalfann.com/post/the-autobiography-of-omar-ibn-said-a-muslim-slave
Posted by: Menz | Aug 23 2024 22:35 utc | 125
Bob K’s speech is one for the ages.
This is what articulate American Citizens know about their country, the Parasite State hates them and wants them sick and dead.
The Parasite State wants war with everyone including the Chinese and Russians, a group of rabid rats.
The Parasite State wants to perpetuate the ancient dictum
Divide and Rule
Posted by: PubliusFlavius | Aug 23 2024 23:33 utc | 126
Massimo
@Rainmaker1973
Alienette Coldfire performing at a public piano.
[📹 raphael.froissart]
https://x.com/Rainmaker1973/status/1826929338324812204
Posted by: Menz | Aug 23 2024 23:48 utc | 127
Roger@54 somehow imagines that being supportive of genocide in Gaza is an unpopular position, despite the millions and millions of Christians who think God gave the Holy Land to His chosen people. Or that Muslims aren’t hated by millions of Christians for worshipping another god (millions of those don’t read the Bible so verses about Ishmael are immaterial, plus they “know” all Muslims are Arab terrorists.)
Lots of young people, especially students, feel differently but they are just a PMC basket of deplorables, of the woke persuasion. Lots of people who weren’t perverted by cultural Marxism aren’t keen on Israel (or for that matter Ukraine) but 1)they are patriots and support the armed forces and the shining light on the hill that is America and 2)don’t follow foreign policy anyhow, just vote against whoever they blame for bad times now, or are told will destroy the country and 3)Trump wants more genocide, not less, and if fewer of those disenchanted with the Zionist colonial enterprise don’t vote, not voting favors Trump and this is a Good Thing for those who worship Trump and don’t really give a shit about genocide feel good about this.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 23 2024 23:52 utc | 128
@ Menz | Aug 23 2024 22:35 utc | 125
It’s sobering to think how many documents of similar value have disappeared because of negligence, decay, or malicious destruction.
Thanks so much for this and for all of your posts!
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 24 2024 0:23 utc | 129
Kamy Harris is a certified incompetent, and may be the first of the Soros funded DA’s in the nation when she did her swan act in SF.
Her time is the Senate was very notable for her complete lack of accomplishments and her continued anti Catholic tirades, including accusing the Knights of Columbus of being an extremist organization, a purely delusional position even for the mentally challenged like Kamy.
But her key meltdown was her appointment by Joementia as Southern Border Czar, where she presided over the entrance of eight million illegal aliens and two million plus got aways into the Republic, in addition to ceding wide parts of the border to the Mexicans drug cartels, and turning the Border Patrol into alien baby sitters instead of border enforcers. All high crimes and certainly impeachable offenses.
She is just a stalking horsette for the Soros/Zuck/Obama deep state alliance, which is all in the more war and death in the Ukraine, and direct conflict with RF.
Kamy’s goals amount to ratcheted up political oppression, confiscation of all privately held semi auto firearms, censorship of all social media, anti Catholic pogroms, endless foreign wars, energy shortages…….price controls, and of course the Green Communist/Greta agenda…………..no thanks!!
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 24 2024 0:58 utc | 130
Kamy’s path to the DNC nomination included sleeping with the rich and famous in Follywood, she gives trash a bad name….OMgosh………
Posted by: Tobias Cole | Aug 24 2024 1:01 utc | 131
Tobias 0.58
“…confiscation of all privately held semi auto firearms…”
So not entirely misdirected then!
Posted by: Walt | Aug 24 2024 1:04 utc | 132
Are there any actual indicators US hegemony is collapsing? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but here’s the world as I currently see it:
—The Russians are getting quagmired in Ukraine. My gut feeling is the Ukrainians will lose eventually, but this is going to be a bloody costly meatgrinder for years to come, barring an escalation to tactical nukes by Putin, which I don’t see happening. One of the things I despise about both Putin and Zelensky is their clear and mutual willingness to squander the lives of endless numbers of common men. If years of war and losing another 300,000 Russian lives will spare Putin the international stigma of using nukes to win, he’ll happily trade those lives away.
—Iran/Hezbollah don’t seem to be reacting to Israel’s provocations. Israel seems to be able to kill who they please, murder civilians in multiple countries, assassinate dignitaries on Iranian soil, and the USA will back them up and cow Iran into backing down. The petty murderous will of AIPAC clearly reigns as supreme in the middle east as it ever has.
—China is continuing to do military exercises in the vicinity of Taiwan, I’m not seeing any indication of an immediate or near-term upset in the status quo. An endless game of chicken with nobody actually pulling the trigger.
Again, I’m open to revising my perception here, but I’m not seeing too many upsets to the status quo. I was betting on Iran doing something, but it appears they’ve for now been intimidated into negotiation over retaliation.
Posted by: Mr Maga Hat | Aug 24 2024 1:18 utc | 133
Posted by: canuck | Aug 23 2024 12:32 utc | 108
I am an honorary Ojibwa Chief after years of helping the community out
https://tinyurl.com/2xrz4wh2 [normal link blocked]
You might enjoy this collection of Mi’kmac stories: Basket Stories by John Bear MacNeil.
One day I found myself in waking Dream meeting a fair young Mi’kmac maiden who, from amidst of a sudden, swirling blizzard, appeared outside the Sydney Cape Breton library to ask for a light as I was pulling up to park. I expressed surprise because I was there on impulse to find books on her people, intending to explore Dreaming with them.
This lovely young, mentally disturbed, lady went on the phone and then handed it to me. “Here! Grandmother!” Turns out the latter was the main tribal chief (matriarchal) and she and I met several times in the following weeks. Some say they are now a broken people; clearly there are problems but I say they are out of Time, they have lost their Nowness; one day they will find it again. Every once in a while near the highlands a bunch of young Mi’maqs spill out of a dusty old SUV at the gas station at dusk and you see huge musculature of upper bodies. In the attached book you can read about why, for from the time before the last Ice Age they hunted large prey and developed extra-large bows which they arched by lying down and stretching forward with both legs whilst pulling back with back, shoulders and arms. It is said in their histories that some were at a battle in France in the 1100’s honouring a treaty they had with the English King, one sealed with marriage, and the French were mightily discomfited by how their arrows could pierce fine polished armor, something the English longbow at that time was as yet generally unable to do.
Anyway, the Chief offered to take me down under Kelly’s Mountain to meet their ancient deity Kluscap who has been there since before the Ice Age and wherein there are extensive tunnels Western anthropologists have given up exploring they are so extensive, but my waking Dream period ended, a huge snow storm collapsed the roof, and an old Seer friend in Vermont nursed me back to health. Not long after, that house mysteriously burned down and I moved to Mexico, an entirely foreign land, one of my greatest regrets forever being that I didn’t take the Chief up on her deeply honouring offer.
Anyway, enjoy some of the stories.
@Posted by: Diego | Aug 23 2024 20:29 utc | 122
Abiotic oil theory is utter bullshit that has been debunked again and again by scientists, but just keeps bubbling up again and again.
@Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 23 2024 23:52 utc | 128
Try reading my work and judge from that, rather than utterly misrepresenting my views. I am very fully aware of the US Christian Zionists thankyou, I have written about them on my substack. And the domination of senior positions in politics and institutions by Zionists (Jewish and Christian) and/or those bought and paid for by Zionist organizations.
Does US Christian Zionism Only Have Ten Years Left?
Making Israel Great Again: Before Time Runs Out
The US is the shining light of genocide, the country was built on genocide and land theft. Hitler based his lebensraum on what the US had done to the Amerindians, and his racism on elite US eugenics. Thankfully the Zionists are a dying breed in both the Jewish and Christian US denominations, the younger generations of 40 and under are much more enlightened, and less taken in by Islamaphobic propaganda.
“@Posted by: Diego | Aug 23 2024 20:29 utc | 122
Abiotic oil theory is utter bullshit that has been debunked again and again by scientists, but just keeps bubbling up again and again.”
Posted by: Roger | Aug 24 2024 3:17 utc | 134
No, abiotic oil is formed deep in the earth’s core.
John Rockefeller financed some ‘scientists’ to come up with the ‘fossil’ oil theory to show that oil supply is finite so that his Standard Oil company was more valuable but in reality oil production is infinite.
I wouldn’t have thought you, Roger with your sharp mind, to be taken in by 150 year old Rockefeller propaganda.
Here is the unvarnished truth behind abiotic theory:
“1. The essence of the modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of deep, abiotic
petroleum origins.
The modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of deep, abiotic petroleum origins is
an extensive body of scientific knowledge which covers the subjects of the
chemical genesis of the hydrocarbon molecules which comprise natural
petroleum, the physical processes which occasion their terrestrial concentration,
the dynamical processes of the movement of that material into geological
reservoirs of petroleum, and the location and economic production of petroleum.
The modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of deep, abiotic petroleum origins
recognizes that petroleum is a primordial material of deep origin which has been
erupted into the crust of the Earth. In short, and bluntly, petroleum is not a
“fossil fuel” and has no intrinsic connection with dead dinosaurs (or any other
biological detritus) “in the sediments” (or anywhere else).
The modern Russian-Ukrainian theory of petroleum is based upon rigorous
scientific reasoning, consistent with the laws of physics and chemistry, as well as
upon extensive geological observation, and rests squarely in the mainstream of
modern physics and chemistry, from which it draws its provenance. Much of the
modern Russian theory of deep, abiotic petroleum genesis developed from the
sciences of chemistry and thermodynamics, and accordingly the modern theory
has steadfastly held as a central tenet that the generation of hydrocarbons must
conform to the general laws of chemical thermodynamics, – as must likewise all
matter. In such respect, modern Russian-Ukrainian petroleum science contrasts
strongly to what are too often passed off as “theories” in the field of geology in
Britain and the U.S.A.” (1)
1.https://petaluma.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=3&clip_id=986&meta_id=190678#:~:text=production%20of%20petroleum.-,The%20modern%20Russian%2DUkrainian%20theory%20of%20deep%2C%20abiotic%20petroleum%20origins,the%20crust%20of%20the%20Earth.
Posted by: Roger | Aug 24 2024 3:29 utc | 135
Further evidence of the forming of the idea of ‘abiotic oil’ rom real scientists:
“The great French chemist Marcellin Berthelot particularly scorned the
hypothesis of a biological origin for petroleum. Berthelot first carried out
experiments involving, among others, a series of what are now referred to as
Kolbe reactions and demonstrated the generation of petroleum by dissolving steel
in strong acid. He produced the suite of n-alkanes and made it plain that such
were generated in total absence of any “biological” molecule or process.
Berthelot’s investigations were later extended and refined by other scientists,
including Biasson and Sokolov, all of whom observed similar phenomena and
likewise concluded that petroleum was unconnected to biological matter.
During the last quarter of the nineteenth century, the great Russian chemist
Dmitri Mendeleev also examined and rejected Lomonosov’s hypothesis of a
biological origin for petroleum. In contrast to Berthelot who had made no
suggestion as to where or how petroleum might have come, Mendeleev stated
clearly that petroleum is a primordial material which has erupted from great
depth. With extraordinary perception, Mendeleev hypothesized the existence of
geological structures which he called “deep faults,” and correctly identified such
as the locus of weakness in the crust of the Earth via which petroleum would
travel from the depths. After he made that hypothesis, Mendeleev was abusively
criticized by the geologists of his time, for the notion of deep faults was then
unknown. Today, of course, an understanding of plate tectonics would be
unimaginable without recognition of deep faults”
Posted by: Roger | Aug 24 2024 3:29 utc | 135
Finally:
“In the first subsection are several published articles concerned directly with
the statistical thermodynamics of the evolution of the hydrocarbon molecules and
the origins of petroleum. The first paper in this section reviews the constraints of
irreversibility upon the evolution of the hydrogen-carbon [H-C] system as
determined by the second law of thermodynamics. In this article, the formalism
of modern thermodynamics is applied freely, and the prohibition of spontaneous
genesis of hydrocarbons heavier than methane in the regimes of temperature and
pressure of the near-surface crust of the Earth is easily noted. A following paper
reviews, and refutes, the claims for “evidence”[sic] for a biological origin of
petroleum (commonly asserted in typical British and American textbooks on
petroleum geology), – e.g., the “biomarkers,” the observation of optical activity,
the slight differences in the abundances of linear molecules with odd (or even)
numbers of carbon atoms, the presence of porphyrins, etc. The claims for each
(as evidence of a biotic connection for petroleum) are refuted, with unchallenged
evidence published in first-rank scientific journals often as long as thirty or forty
years ago. The continued, egregious claims of such as “evidence” of a biological
origin of petroleum are acknowledged to be fraudulent. A recent paper describes
very recent analysis of the thermodynamic stability of the hydrogen-carbon
system in circumstances most favorable to the evolution of hydrocarbons, and
shows that the hydrocarbons which comprise natural petroleum cannot evolve
spontaneously at pressures less than approximately 30 kbar, which pressures
correspond to the depths of the mantle of the Earth. In the second instance, this
paper describes experimental demonstration of the foregoing theoretical
predictions, whereby laboratory-pure solid marble (CaCO3), iron oxide (FeO), wet
with triple-distilled water, are subjected to pressures up to 50 kbar and
temperatures to 2000 C. With no contribution of either hydrocarbons or
biological detritus, the CaCO3-FeO-H2O system spontaneously generates, at the
high pressures predicted theoretically, the suite of hydrocarbons characteristic of
natural petroleum.” (1)
1.https://petaluma.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=3&clip_id=986&meta_id=190678#:~:text=production%20of%20petroleum.-,The%20modern%20Russian%2DUkrainian%20theory%20of%20deep%2C%20abiotic%20petroleum%20origins,the%20crust%20of%20the%20Earth.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 24 2024 13:00 utc | 139
It’s an interesting hypothesis that I’d assumed was debunked, and one I’d like to return to in depth if we’re still here in a year’s time.
It’s got me to wondering if carbonaceous meteoric bolide impacts may be part of this hypothesised process. It could be a plausible way to deliver a concentrated blob of carbon-rich material to the depths and pressures you referred to, and Earth was peppered with impacts earlier in its history.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 24 2024 13:30 utc | 140
“Posted by: canuck | Aug 24 2024 13:00 utc | 139
It’s an interesting hypothesis that I’d assumed was debunked, and one I’d like to return to in depth if we’re still here in a year’s time.
It’s got me to wondering if carbonaceous meteoric bolide impacts may be part of this hypothesised process. It could be a plausible way to deliver a concentrated blob of carbon-rich material to the depths and pressures you referred to, and Earth was peppered with impacts earlier in its history.”
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 24 2024 13:30 utc | 140
Oil can be formed in the earth but it is not hot enough to produce Gold; gold is only formed when two black holes collide.
Hence, 5 billion years ago or so as the earth was forming gold that had been made by these monstrous collisions collected on the what would become the earth.
As for abiotic oil I don’t have absolutely no doubt about it whatsoever and the geologists I know are already there.
So as far as I am concerned anybody who still believes the ‘fossil theory ‘ of the creation of hydrocarbons have the same belief in that as do religious people do in believing in God-it has to be described as a ‘Faith’ not ‘Reason’.
Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 24 2024 13:30 utc | 140
The controversial polymath and ex-actor Terrence Howard has spent several decades contemplating the table of Elements and seems to have a good understanding of the progressions and reasons for how they come from and turn into other elements. There is a lot going on in the core of our planet which we only understand dimly, at best. For example some say there is more water underneath the crust than above, which includes current oceans.
In any case, thanks to canuck, you have a decent lightning fast overview of the issue. The main reason people have’t switched, I suspect, is not because of corporate capture, aka lies, but because once people believe Proposition A it is psychologically difficult to let it go for a variety of reasons, most having to do with ego and emotions.
@canuck. Well done viz abiotic oil etc. I figured you would know more than I and sure enough…
(Have been trying to reply to an earlier one of your but cannot post. This is mainly a test.)
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 24 2024 13:52 utc | 143
Posted by: canuck | Aug 23 2024 12:32 utc | 108
I am an honorary Ojibwa Chief after years of helping the community out
https://baronbrasdor.art/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/basket-stories-john-bear-macneil.pdf
https://tinyurl.com/2xrz4wh2
You might enjoy this collection of Mi’kmac stories. One day I found myself in waking dream meeting a fair young Mi’kmac maiden who, from amidst of a sudden, swirling blizzard, appeared outside the Sydney Cape Breton library to ask for a light as I was pulling up to park. I expressed surprise because I was there on impulse to find books on her people, intending to explore Dreaming with them.
This lovely young, mentally disturbed, lady went on the phone and then handed it to me. “Here! Grandmother!” Turns out the latter was the main tribal chief (matriarchal) and she and I met several times in the following weeks. Some say they are now a broken people; clearly there are problems but I say they are out of Time, they have lost their Nowness; one day they will find it again. Every once in a while near the highlands a bunch of young Mi’maqs spill out of a dusty old SUV at the gas station at dusk and you see huge musculature of upper bodies. In the attached book you can read about why, for from the time before the last Ice Age they hunted large prey and developed extra-large bows which they arched by lying down and stretching forward with both legs whilst pulling back with back, shoulders and arms. It is said in their histories that some were at a battle in France in the 1100’s honouring a treaty they had with the English King, one sealed with marriage, and the French were mightily discomfited by how their arrows could pierce fine polished armor, something the English longbow at that time was as yet generally unable to do.
Anyway, the Chief offered to take me down under Kelly’s Mountain to meet their ancient deity Kluscap who has been there since before the Ice Age and wherein there are extensive tunnels Western anthropologists have given up exploring they are so extensive, but my waking Dream period ended, a huge snow storm collapsed the roof, and an old Seer friend in Vermont nursed me back to health. Not long after, that house mysteriously burned down and I moved to Mexico, an entirely foreign land, one of my greatest regrets forever being that I didn’t take the Chief up on her deeply honouring offer.
Anyway, enjoy some of the stories.
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 24 2024 13:53 utc | 144
Cop-lover Roger@135 demands I read his substack, despite not being able to read a complete comment of only two paragraphs! My answer to that is, pay me for my sacrifice. Here I will only add that if rabid Zionism didn’t kill RFK, there’s no strong reason to be sure that rabid Zionism will kill Harris. So far as I can tell, it didn’t. As near as I can tell, RFK was always another not-Trump, not-Biden candidate with the disadvantage of not being the winner of the Democratic primary marathon. His constituency can always vote not-Trump, not-Biden with Harris.
Roger skipped my second paragraph, but I didn’t skip his. One problem with critiquing all American history as a protofascist nightmare in the name of an ideal democracy is that it covers up the nature of actually existing democracy. The bourgeoisie rules, it’s literally their game, they’re the house and always win, as long as enough suckers walk in, so it doesn’t matter if a few people walk away winners. Another problem is that it covers up what really did make America great, primarily the American Revolution and the Union victory in the Civil War, our second, greater revolution. MAGA can’t be right because it doesn’t know what made America great in the first place, much less when it stopped being great. The scam of ideal democracy even hides the reactionary assault against the great reform periods of the New Deal and the Great Society. A third problem is ideal democracy substitutes other targets like an imaginary Deep State or an undefinable PMC or the woke young (whom cop-lover Roger obviously despises) or those old standby scapegoats, Jews. And for those who sympathize with socialism, the comparison of an ideal democracy that never existed still serves as an excuse to condemn actually existing socialism, especially from fake leftists.
Roger’s problem is when people correctly represent Roger’s views.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 24 2024 14:03 utc | 145
On the byplay re abiotic petroleum? In tectonic plate theory, the deep faults are associated mostly with the edges, with the acknowledged occurrence in the interior of the plates being a minority. If deep faults are how petroleum rises to the upper regions, it is not clear why petroleum fields aren’t regularly found at the edges as well. Magma and lava certainly is. It’s not clear why petroleum doesn’t regularly erupt too. Geologists have found traces of water floods, why not traces of petroleum floods? Also, volcanoes are effectively samples of deep earth materials. Why do they not emit even more carbon dioxide than they do? Some process has accumulated far more carbon in petroleum fields, so what does that if not a biological process known to concentrate carbon?
For the record Berthelot and Mendeleev were indeed great chemists. But they were scientists, not prophets. The greatest can be wrong, compare Galileo’s theory of tides.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 24 2024 14:15 utc | 146
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 24 2024 14:03 utc | 144
A rich, complex second paragraph. During which it occurred to me that we give concepts like democracy far too much weight, treating them cognitively as if they accurately encompass an entire political system or reality whereas in fact they are just ideological skeins in an extensive socio-political tapestry. Any large group comprising millions has no end of mutually supportive and obstructive elements, some at more materialist and others at more cultural and ideological levels.
The twentieth century seems to have gone on an orgy of shoehorning all possible collective ontologies into the narrow bandwidth of reductive materialism from which confines various political ideologies, such as socialism, marxism, fascism, latter-day ‘democracy’ etc., emerged masquerading as over-arching visions with authoritative explanatory power and prescriptions for all social ills since the dawn of time. Events have proven all such notions wrong and yet there is as yet not much of a rush for the exits, though some might argue that the multipolarists are putting together some new and better frameworks albeit relying more on action than theory thus far, a good thing.
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 24 2024 14:18 utc | 147
Scorpion@1418
“Reductive Materialism” is indeed the virus which has engorged a majority of those who have a string of letters tailing after their surnames. Colleges in general and universities in particular have fallen under the spells of the reductive materialist mindset. It’s a tightly focused intellectual fixation, with considerable admixtures of herd-mentality. Original thinking is considered by those types as “deviationist” at best…and threatening to a possible upsetting of the applecart at worst.
Groupthink is the meme. Monocultural idealogues describes essentially the lot of them. Full tenured professors strike me as often being the worst of the lot. That milieu is highly political intramurally. Lots of nit-picking and backbiting going on. That phenomenon reflects the contemporary patterning of competition as against cooperation.
As compared with a previous generation of academics, such as Alfred North Whitehead; those who maintain “accepted” standards and narratives are full in the majority of academics. Their entire ethos is reductionist. Thinking outside of the box is taboo.
A little wordplay from a couple of weeks back: “Idiotology, as programmed in collegy…all embedded in psycollegy”.
Or as Bob Dylan phrased it in one of his numerous channelings via the Universal Unconscious: “He’s stuck on a whale who’s married to the deputy sheriff of the jail”.
When it comes to the majority of academics, thinking for oneself is “verboten”.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 24 2024 15:14 utc | 148
Scorp and Canuck,
Thank you for your input I appreciate you both for expounding on that topic I believe it’s Central to what’s happening.
All the best
Posted by: Diego | Aug 24 2024 15:17 utc | 149
Canuck@1254
Presumably activating the hypothetical postulations by Mendeleev; Russian petroleum engineers set about to do some deep drilling, apparently in fault zones. Their efforts were successful. This information was available on the net perhaps some fifteen years ago. In recent explorations I have yet to encounter either confirming or disputing data.
Personally, my time for research during the warmer months is very limited. However, if some more fully retired and interested individual could delve into those findings; this disputation may grow some legs. It is a most fascinating zone of speculation.
On an individual basis, I am skeptical of purely biological sourcing for petroleum. We still have a lot to learn.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 24 2024 15:32 utc | 150
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 24 2024 13:53 utc | 144
Thank you for the story, quite interesting.
I learned much about the Ojibwa culture as I had three or four Ojibwa men working with me a few years ago.
First every Ojibwa person is born into a clan named after the animals: Birds are the leaders, fish are the educators, bears are protectors, wolves are warriors, muskrats are the medicine men.
When I was given the honour they called me a Loon-I asked why-The tribal elected Chief (they have hereditary chiefs as well) told me :
“The Canada Goose is a silent leader he leads by example. The Loon gets mad fast then shakes it off fast-like you”
The only animals that were not used as a totem/clan were the beaver- cause they dam up the natives’ ‘highways’-the rivers. And the rattlesnake for obvious reasons.
The dastardly Brits knew about all Indian tribes hated the beaver so they, of course, made it the national symbol of Canada.
I had a muskrat carpenter working-the healers-and he told me that he could not ever charge ‘patients’ if he ‘ One day I had the flu and was coughing, sore joints he made a tea from black spruce sap and it did make me feel better.
He charged me $10; I retorted, “I thought you couldn’t charge?”
He replied, “I can charge gringos, no problem”.
Ha, ha.
I asked why the fish were the educators.
He replied “Do you know how hard it is to catch fish? They are smart”
“Scorp and Canuck,
Thank you for your input I appreciate you both for expounding on that topic I believe it’s Central to what’s happening.
All the best”
Posted by: Diego | Aug 24 2024 15:17 utc | 149
My pleasure, Diego
“In any case, thanks to canuck, you have a decent lightning fast overview of the issue. The main reason people have’t switched, I suspect, is not because of corporate capture, aka lies, but because once people believe Proposition A it is psychologically difficult to let it go for a variety of reasons, most having to do with ego and emotions.”
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 24 2024 13:50 utc | 142
“It’s Easier to Fool People Than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.”
Mark Twain.
“Reductive Materialism” is indeed the virus which has engorged a majority of those who have a string of letters tailing after their surnames. Colleges in general and universities in particular have fallen under the spells of the reductive materialist mindset. It’s a tightly focused intellectual fixation, with considerable admixtures of herd-mentality. Original thinking is considered by those types as “deviationist” at best…and threatening to a possible upsetting of the applecart at worst.
Groupthink is the meme. Monocultural idealogues describes essentially the lot of them. Full tenured professors strike me as often being the worst of the lot. That milieu is highly political intramurally. Lots of nit-picking and backbiting going on. That phenomenon reflects the contemporary patterning of competition as against cooperation.
As compared with a previous generation of academics, such as Alfred North Whitehead; those who maintain “accepted” standards and narratives are full in the majority of academics. Their entire ethos is reductionist. Thinking outside of the box is taboo.”
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 24 2024 15:14 utc | 148
Extremely well written [canuk wishes he could write so eloquently, editor] and 100% accurate-although there are a few academics here-Gruff and Patroklos-who clearly aren’t under the spell of “Medieval Churchman Mentality in the 21st Century” -perhaps they are the exception that proves the rule?
We sometimes get so distracted by current events that we forget to keep focused on the important things. https://folkpotpourri.com/one-fine-day-in-eternity/
Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Aug 24 2024 16:21 utc | 155
@Posted by: canuck | Aug 24 2024 12:49 utc | 137
You always provide great entertainment, thankyou!
@Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 24 2024 14:03 utc | 145
Projection much?
Your attempt to build a straw man version of me to knock down is utterly ridiculous. The US has always been run by the elites, first the colonial elites, then the local elites who threw off the UK crown and carried out the Framers Coup (the real outcome of the American Revolution), then the pure bourgeois elite after the defeat of the southern landed interests (the real result of the Civil War). The New Deal was forced upon the bourgeois elite by circumstances, and it has spent many many decades rolling it back. The US has always been based on the exploitation of the majority by the oligarchy, both at home and abroad. MAGA and Trump are just new tactics by a section of the bourgeois elite, who are certainly very intelligent and adaptive.
Your attempt to brand me as an anti-semite is utterly despicable, as I have made my true views extremely obvious in many postings and my published work. Being against the Israeli government actions and those that support such actions is not anti-semitism. Calling me a cop-lover is also utterly risible, as well as laughable. Also attempting to label me as some “ideal-democracy” Trotskyist is utterly ridiculous given my widespread condemnation of such views, and also my general appreciation for the work of the Chinese Party-state.
I had some respect for your posts, but you have tossed all of that in the garbage. I will no longer be replying to your posts. I will not be chased away from this blog, as may be part of your motive but I will not engage with your disingenuous, manipulative and outright lying comments.
Posted by: canuck | Aug 24 2024 15:42 utc | 151
The Mi’kmaqs are also organized into plant and animal name sub-tribes going back centuries but I never learned all that much about it. She told me they are a very old people; moreover that the Chinese come from North America long ago, not the other way around. Somewhere around Manitoba as they tell it.
The degree to which we humans are ignorant of the present is magnified exponentially viz how little we know of our past, especially how reality felt/feels to people of different times and cultures. I suspect the Mi’kmaqs perhaps have retained more of their past of long ago that way than we have of only a century or more ago. She and I were just spending time together chatting, I never got deep into her tribe though we discussed maybe bringing in some meditation from Asia because other Chiefs in other tribes have had dreams about doing this; but based on what she was willing to tell me casually, I suspect there is much more in their verbal histories and psycho-emotional makeup than generally known outside inner circles. The Mi’kmaqs have been around the Northern East Coast – Maine, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and perhaps Greenland – for a very, very, very long time, well before the Great Flood.
I am so profoundly ashamed by how native peoples were treated by European invaders that I prefer not to think about it. Luckily in Nova Scotia it was not a horrifically bloody business, I gather (??, for as it happened I never got around to studying Canadian colonial history), more like technology and numerical superiority. Still, not a good business.
My last visit there she had her youngest granddaughter come out in a white dress so that I could praise her. She was about to go through the coming of age ceremonies and then soon pick a young man to marry. I find local community Mexicans where I am very similar: they are old school human beings, both tough and tender. I respect and like them very, very much. Human beings can be bloody-minded demons, but they can also be heart-breakingly true and real. It’s a funny old world.
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 24 2024 16:41 utc | 157
Posted by: Diego | Aug 24 2024 15:17 utc | 149
Posted by: canuck | Aug 24 2024 15:56 utc | 154
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 24 2024 15:14 utc | 148
Extremely well written [canuk wishes he could write so eloquently, editor] and 100% accurate-although there are a few academics here-Gruff and Patroklos-who clearly aren’t under the spell of “Medieval Churchman Mentality in the 21st Century” -perhaps they are the exception that proves the rule?
There are many sharp minds on the forum, for sure. With many different points of view. (If only we could all learn to behave like adults and not drunk teenagers…!)
Anyway, some good discussions there, and I agree that aristodemus wrote that out extremely well. Bravo!
It’s a seminal topic but not easy to discuss well – or at least usually discussed poorly- albeit partly because most materialists are so entrenched they cannot entertain alternative ontologies. I thought I had some sort of uniquely original epiphany about it years ago and then have gradually learned that wise men have been harping on about it for well over a century. (Serves me right for not going all the way with formal Western education; I might have made a half-way decent professor, I suspect, but that ship sailed long ago.)
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 24 2024 16:55 utc | 158
Were you ten to fifteen years my junior; you might “graduate” into a world where those 13th Century conceptualizations under “Holy” Mother Church…which came to be known as “universities”…will fade into history as they are gradually replaced by a phenomenon which might be considered as “Cosmoversities”.
That concept of heightened levels of universality as being a considerably more multidimensional reality, in accord with Cosmic time cycles which were well understood by the Wisdom schools of Hellenic configuration and even more so in the Vedic philosophies of India, as well as some of the leading Taoist entities in the Celestial Kingdom; we are in the closing years of Kali Yuga and the Age of Pisces.
Cosmic envisionments will replace reductionistic materialism as intellectual propositions become more deeply connective with creative manifestations. Control mechanisms employed by the self-chosen financier elite will dissipate into oblivion as the Great Awakening is broadly recognized by those with eyes to see, ears to hear and minds to engage cooperatively with other thinkers, rather than remain constipated in mere materialistic nostrums.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 24 2024 17:12 utc | 159
Canuck@1556
Thank you for your kind words. As one fully aware of synchronicity; my day to day life is replete with pop-ups of the number “56”. Your posting on that time-slot informs me that our mutual connectivity is fully endorsed in etherial realms by means of that synchronicity.
We are as the French frequently say,” D’accord” in realization that not all academics of the current devolutionary era are fully enmeshed within that groupthink. My hat is off to all those in generally hidebound situations who have the courage to deviate from such a normative ensorcellment.
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 24 2024 17:21 utc | 160
Centrists (called by MSM ‘far right’) having more fun:
https://twitter.com/JeromeChes90218/status/1827182053667873114
Am now cautiously optimistic that the US might, just might, be able to engineer a turnaround. The DNC, by negating RFK Jr’s candidacy, may have created a blowback wave that will drown them. I hope Jr gets his 5% in November and can mount a Party to replace the DNC and give his country a chance to become a bona fide republic again. Stranger things have happened.
Heads up to karlof1’s substack where he put in the work to give us one of Putin’s recent speeches, this one about the importance of values (and non-materialist vision). This is emerging as a Great Divide in many ways with traditional small-c conservative, aka ‘traditional’, mores making a comeback. The progressive excesses, first of the Bolsheviks and now latterly of the ‘Woke’ have swung so far that reasonable, ordinary people have no choice but to reject the discomfort and economic stress they engender.
So maybe the pendulum is about to swing back into normalcy for a while. Hope so.
For those few here who like such stuff, did an I Ching on the RFK Jr-DJR merger the day before it was finally announced.
https://baronbrasdor.art/2024/08/22/yi-rfk-jr-joining-with-djt-45-46-53/
(45 Gathering Together, Union – no changing lines)
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 24 2024 17:38 utc | 161
I wouldn’t vote Trump for assistant dog catcher but, if he defeats Harris without my help I’ll crack a momentary smile and all the best to him and the country. I’m no fan of arch-zionist or arch-compromised RFKjr but I really figured him as a spoiler put there by the DNC to draw votes from Trump, glad to see he’s mostly righteous. Maybe some agreement that RFKjr gets EPA or HHS, despite that he doesn’t consider genocide a health issue.
Anyways, the endorsement wasn’t a ClownWorld moment, caught me off guard. It’s a zeitgeist plus for Trump, de-ClownWorlding. There’s still months to go and ClownWorld will spin up again once he’s in office. Maybe he’s got his shit together and it’ll be more entertaining, in a good way, this time around. MAGA YAGA GAGA.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 24 2024 18:00 utc | 162
Below is a Xinhuanet posting that I have not seen reported elsewhere
BEIJING, Aug. 24 (Xinhua) — U.S. National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan will visit China from August 27 to 29.
Sullivan’s visit is at the invitation of Wang Yi, member of the Political Bureau of the Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee and director of the Office of the Central Commission for Foreign Affairs, foreign ministry spokesperson Mao Ning said on Saturday.
According to Mao, the two sides will hold a new round of China-U.S. strategic communication.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall at those meetings.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 24 2024 20:43 utc | 163
“Canuck@1556
Thank you for your kind words. As one fully aware of synchronicity; my day to day life is replete with pop-ups of the number “56”. Your posting on that time-slot informs me that our mutual connectivity is fully endorsed in ethereal realms by means of that synchronicity…”
Posted by: aristodemos | Aug 24 2024 17:21 utc | 160
Interesting-I might become ‘religious’ after all with such portents…
Well Britain at least have displayed to all the world that they are not rocket scientists
https://youtu.be/9z9c_nUUIic?si=pm86SGM5kr_fUUoU
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Aug 24 2024 21:11 utc | 165
Roger@156 is all in for Trump, as many comments reveal. That is a call for the Gaza genocide to be supported even more vigorously, as well as endorsing Trump’s presidential record of support for the Zionist project, especially the support of the allegedly anti-imperialist Trump’s revived attack on Iran, ultimately the colonialist enterprises main target in the Middle East. So much for claims to be anti-Zionist.
The second paragraph attacking the folly of ideal democracy was a separate, second paragraph because it was not directed against Roger personally, by the way. But when someone tries to pretend that there was never any bourgeois democracy in the US because “elites” or the “oligarchy” fails miserably to acquit Roger. All bourgeois democracies are manipulated by the bourgeoisie. Any pretense that if we were really a “real” (meaning in truth an ideal) democracy as if actually existing bourgeois democracy wasn’t bourgeois, is a false critique firmly rooted in delusions about an ideal democracy. The Framers were not the outcome of the American revolution, but a phase roughly comparable to the Directory in the great French revolution by the way. The Federalists were the party of that phase, but Jefferson’s political revolution of 1800 was the peaceful dissolution of that. The war of 1812 was closer to the end of the American revolution but led to the further spread of white manhood suffrage and abolition in the North. The Jacksonian democracy was just as bourgeois yet by no means was in no way a continuation of the Federalists. Fragments of them (at least Webster) changed into the Whigs, sure, but the Whigs also continued with fragments of the original Jeffersonian Democratic Republicans. (John Quincy Adams for one, plus figures like Clay or for that matter tha early Calhoun.) Reality was far more complex than the abstract schema advanced. Singling out the US as uniquely evil is nonsense, suitable only for political swindles.
And yes, pretending that having two cops for parents makes Kelly finer flesh than ordinary people is cop-loving BS. The proper defense for Kelly is to deny that parents infallibly pass on their politics to the kids, instead of boasting that cop politics are hereditary qualifications!
LightYearsFromHone@162 rewrites history to turn RFK into a Republican Party spoiler candidate, as if RFK didn’t try run as a Democrat. Now that it’s the general, we see proof RFK was always a Trump stalking horse.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 24 2024 21:13 utc | 166
@Scorpion – I’m not fully convinced that you missed out on much by not becoming a professor. I certainly did, but only in the limited sense that occupation as philosopher is provided solely at the Uni here in Germany. The most important inspirations (and related developments) I have come across took place outside of mainstream science, which is a bit unexpected perhaps, but still true.
To come up with a solid refute of the materialist Weltsicht is no small feat, especially for an outsider to the discourse – there provides for massive streams of bullshit to fall for, but also the sharpened questions are to be found there, along with the enabling language to try and really deal with them.
It’s not that much important to be the first person to discover something critically novel and also be recognized for it; another unexpected feature of science as it’s generally presented to people in the west. What counts more is to find and refine the idea at all, methinks. Perhaps ideas are even platonic entities, after all, and live a life of their own once placed into the collective subconscious … actually not a ridiculous notion, as artifical creation of unnatural crystals seems to hint at among other things.
Do you remember how we got a grasp on the concept (lol) of Dasein here a while ago, due to your brilliant translation as being-here-ness? – How many folks out there would have ever imagined that Buddha-Nature and Aristotelian nous are so close in meaning that it’s likely just the same idea? Or to discover that buddhist no-thing-ness contemplation has a full analogon in the Husserl’s thought he calls “transcendental reduction”? —
We’re doing quite fine here indeed. Heil mit dem Moon of Alabama!
Posted by: persiflo | Aug 24 2024 22:00 utc | 168
URGENThead of Telegram arrested in Paris
Posted by: Jo | Aug 24 2024 21:45 utc | 167
And this would be the right thread to discuss it
I assume his pilot was warned by some friendly jets that he was on a missile lock, and either landed for “refueling” in le bourget or the next place he’d land would include angels and harps…
Not even sure he’d be over nato airspace, rules-based order just means “we give the orders, you follow those rules”
Starting to admire the old korean kim, he would go anywhere only by train…
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 22:13 utc | 169
Expect the public “process” on telegraph to focus on paedo and drugs aka “think of the children”
Posted by: Newbie | Aug 24 2024 22:14 utc | 170
steven t johnson @ 166
If RFKjr was going to be set up as a spoiler to steal votes from Trump the game plan would be exactly to first try and run in the DNC primary and have the party unceremoniously reject him. That would be the kayfabe. I now think he wasn’t that or the opposite, a stalking horse for Trump, but just what he seemed, trying to make an impact and see if it was enough to get elected. Sadly, I expected him to be much sharper given the pedigree, both regarding the hopeless corruption of the DNC and the utter uselessness of Trump and in the end winding up having to side with the infinitesimally lesser evil, as if that is an upstanding political decision.
The give away of his lack of wits was when he gave the high five to his son to go play soldier in Ukraine at the start of the SMO only to realize that maybe the Ukraine thing wasn’t a liberation struggle but the umpteenth USA war scam. He seems surprisingly born a day late and dollar short, but I don’t think he is a calculating conniver or opportunist, just not the sharpest Kennedy in the drawer.
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 24 2024 23:05 utc | 171
Wisco is missing in action since his lively discussion on the Ukraine thread the other day. He first tried opening a discussion with a very obvious sockpuppet that had been set up to target me.
The Ukraine thread had become a trolls whorehouse filled with trolls and replies to trolls.
Wisco defended them and even had the privilege of having his name hijacked.
I have found all I can read now is the black on blue format that is here at b’s blog. The contrast of black on white is too much for my eyes now and I cannot read much with that contrast.
A few got hit by friendly fire… but as I can’t read much else other than the black on blue contrast found here, I thought it was either sit here looking at the walls or do something about it.
Apologies for offending you juliania but that whorehouse was no place for a lady.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 24 2024 23:20 utc | 172
The Bayesian sank and yet the designer maintains that it was unsinkable. Now is blaming the crew. Yet they claim not to know what happened. The crew were thrown from the boat while trying to make things secure on deck. Now builder is blaim crew for being offshore when bad weather was forecast – pretty sure tornado (or now they are saying microburst) was not forecast and what habben to the boat being unsinkable.
Basically the boat is an extreme design violating the principals of seaworthy design – flat bottom, extreme keel, extreme mast, excessive glass area of less than robust form. The man and his daughter are victims of wealth and pride. He would have done better in a 30′ Beneteau.
Posted by: jared | Aug 25 2024 0:02 utc | 173
I think the assumption is that some hatch was not yet secured when crew was thrown from boat – due I imagine to form stability (flat bottom). A sailor would describe the boat as an oversized dingy with cup holders.
Posted by: jared | Aug 25 2024 0:14 utc | 174
Definitely the Kim Dotcom prosecution:
“Pavel Durov, the founder and CEO of the encrypted messaging service Telegram, was arrested around 8pm this Saturday evening as he got off his private jet on the tarmac at Le Bourget airport. Aged 39, this Franco-Russian was accompanied by his bodyguard and a woman.
The arrest was carried out by the gendarmes of the Air Transport Gendarmerie. Listed in the FPR (wanted persons file), Pavel Durov had arrived straight from Azerbaijan. He had a French search warrant issued by the OFMIN of the national directorate of the French judicial police issued on the basis of a preliminary investigation.
*Why was he under threat of a search warrant?*
Justice considers that the lack of moderation, cooperation with law enforcement and the tools offered by Telegram (disposable number, crypto, etc.) makes him an accomplice in drug trafficking, pedocriminal offences and fraud.
This search warrant was valid if, and only if, Pavel Durov was on national territory. “He made a blunder tonight. We don’t know why… Was this theft just a stopover? In any case, he’s in custody!”, a source close to the investigation told TF1-LCI. Since he knew he was persona non grata in France, Pavel Durov had been in the habit of travelling to the Emirates, the countries of the former USSR, South America… He travelled very little in Europe and avoided countries where Telegram is under surveillance.
*And now?*
Investigators from ONAF (National Anti-Fraud Office attached to the Customs Directorate) notified him and placed him in police custody. He should be presented to an investigating judge this Saturday evening before a possible indictment on Sunday for a multitude of offences: terrorism, narcotics, complicity, fraud, money laundering, receiving stolen goods, pedocriminal content, etc.
Pavel Durov will end up in pretrial detention, that’s for sure,” comments an investigator with TF1/LCI. “On his platform, he allowed an incalculable number of offenses and crimes to be committed for which he did nothing to moderate or cooperate,” analyzes a source close to the case.
His pretrial detention following his indictment is indeed beyond doubt. Pavel Durov, a billionaire, has substantial means to flee and his guarantees of representation will hardly convince the judges. A dragnet with international resonance.
For investigators, this dragnet with international resonance has various objectives. First, it allows them to kick the anthill, impress and dissuade the perpetrators of crimes and offenses who have, until now, exchanged freely on Telegram. Then, they aim to put pressure on European countries to increase joint work to force encrypted messaging to bend on terrorist cases.
Indeed, Telegram is a hive for criminal content. Right now, the platform is in the news with the illegal broadcasting of Ligue 1 matches. But on this encrypted messaging service, many accounts are used by organized crime. Beyond terrorism, the most dangerous pedophiles communicate on Telegram to exchange content. “For years, it has become THE number 1 platform for organized crime,” comments an investigator.”
“>https://t.me/Novichok_Rossiya_2/12572
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 0:17 utc | 175
@persiflo: thanks for the remarks etc. In the Buddhist tradition especially, but most contemplative traditions, the subject matter becomes the nature of reality which is the nature of experiencing; I guess you could say there is no significant difference between experience and experiencer, subject and object. But the nature being examined at some point can be described as the nature of mind or the nature of being and this nature, as it is examined, becomes deeply familiar. Indeed, the Tibetan word for meditation, gompa, means becoming familiar.
Once such nature is recognized, it is perceived all over the place in no end of different contexts and traditions for this is bedrock human nature. One starts to look for it since underlying meaning is always interesting; and since underlying meaning is what philosophers are interested in too of course, the typical meditator type such as myself, in order to read their work at all and glean any understanding thereby, is looking for how they are experiencing the nature of mind and being and picking through their words to determine how they are expressing it.
Of course, as with everything, some have a better understanding than others, for there is such a thing as confusion, or ignorance, and some are better than others at putting their insights into words. No end of variables. But ultimately the deeper you go in any tradition, or experience, the more it is more of the same because there is little to no difference between different peoples’ nature of mind / nature of being. There we can find unbroken continuity between the ancients and ourselves. True, during different periods different skill sets are emphasized, some epochs into psychic abilities, other eras into reason, but the fundamental nature of mind does not really change and can be perceived directly, though it takes most people a few years of training to do so. Not because it is so distant, but because it is so close, so profoundly and simply ordinary, always there 24/7 and thus surprisingly hard to pick up on. That said, I suspect a lot of people in their 80’s or so start naturally getting it even without any training or overt interest; natural wisdom.
In any case, in the words of the great Cohen of Montreal: ‘everybody knows’!
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 0:20 utc | 176
Freak accident, ego compromised boat, faked death, real murder? Take your pick in ClowWorld it’s all real – at the same time! It’s like a man being pregnant, why limit yourself to just one concept?
Yacht Maker Blames Crew for Sinking Critical Statement from Yacht Designer SY News Ep374
the autonomy fraud case and the mysterious deaths of Mike Lynch and Stephen Chamberlain
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 0:28 utc | 177
Based on an article I just read, I think I can guess what happened to that yacht: Link
According to Ron Holland Design’s website, it was one of 23 vessels he designed and had built by Perini Navi in Viareggio.
It had a 236-foot high mast—reportedly the highest aluminum mast in the world—and a retractable keel, which was designed to increase stability in bad weather.
British newspaper The Telegraph reported the retractable keel was partially raised.
If this account is correct, sounds like a passing spout/tornado put the vessel on her side due to the extra-large masts AND the retractable keel being half up. The skipper not lowering it was a mistake although quite possibly it wouldn’t have made much of a difference. But with the keel up, the sideways pressure of an almost hurricane wind laying her flat would be countered by less ‘righting momentum’ which the weight of the keel provides.
So it looks like she was laid on her side for a while during which period the hull was flooded from the deck area into the cabins below quickly causing the vessel to sink, with large weight of water accumulating on one side of the hull facing down keep her flat and thus the flooding would continue until she finally sank.
I had to do it once (long story); it is incredibly difficult to sink a vessel without holing the hull and earlier reports have said the hull was not breached. Therefore the only way to sink her in 12 minutes is by pouring a huge amount of water into her insides. Laying her on her side for a few minutes in extreme wind with no righting momentum would be one way to sink such a vessel providing she remained flat for at least a minute or two – which a passing twister might have effected thanks to the top-heavy masts which this vessel, apparently, was well known for.
My two cents!
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 0:32 utc | 178
Posted by: persiflo | Aug 23 2024 4:43 utc | 90:
“… The meaning of life and death, the why and whereto of creation, the how of daily conduct and its deeper meaning were all closely, inseperable in fact, related to the only idea of god, which was cast into a totalitarian society where church and state – monarchy – existed as two sides of one coin. Further reasoning was discouraged….”
You are only talking about western civilization, persiflo– and even there reasoning couldn’t be discouraged forever, since people objected to being so enslaved. It couldn’t last, that power play, even though it did terrible things while it had power.
People naturally rebelled. They hammered edicts on church walls in western countries to make room for reasoning, and that is how the western philosophers broke away from the western church. In the eastern church, and in other religions also, these revolts never happened because thinking was never condemned, you didn’t have that conflict!
In eastern Christianity thinking was part of religious understanding, has always been so. Nobody has been told not to think except in those very obvious periods of history when might made right and force was needed to keep submission working for the powers that be -whether they were using religion as a cudgel or not. But those who used religion were not practising faith but tramping on it. And so the west has to a large extent lost faith. And now it seems we are experiencing the same sort of restrictions on free thought, the abuses of power, in the absence of faith.
I can’t follow your statements about modernity. They seem very shallow to me. How does a cube tell me anything about daily life except if I accidentally bump into a corner of it in the dark? Without the moorings of the questions of life and death, where we came from and where we are going, even pure reasoning in the abstract is very hard to follow. At least for me it is.
I would substitute ‘relationships’ for that somewhat vague term ‘the realities of daily life.’ And I would strongly recomment that we absorb the discussion of relationships that happens in Buber’s “I and Thou”. We are seeing that when you forget about human contacts with one another even in the absence of the existence question about God, realities become rather nightmarish.
If that’s modernity, I don’t want it.
Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 0:58 utc | 179
You see, the way Buber does it is very beautiful. He divides his thesis into several parts. You don’t need to go to the final step to appreciate what he is saying. The final step is, of course, relationship with God. But you don’t need to go there if you don’t want to. You can stop at any one of the levels before that step, and discover all sorts of amazing interactions. As one does having a simple conversation with another person. As we do on these forums. We discover connections all the time (in spite of those who desire to unmake those connections because they are immature or have problems too deep to deal with without disrupting others and feeling good about doing that. They need help; sometimes we can give it, but mostly we can’t.)
To my mind, Buber is the modernism I’d like to see in everyone, whatever their ‘final step’ entails.
Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 1:08 utc | 180
@ Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 0:32 utc | 178
The boat should not sink at 90 – were it sea worthy and hatches closed.
I was going to make sarcastic remark about the boat having sliding glass doors but decided it was somewhat callous. Well aparently the boat had sliding glass doors and they are prone to opening when to boat is at extreem heel unless latched (dogged) shut.
Posted by: jared | Aug 25 2024 1:10 utc | 181
One is at the mercy of God and nature when at sea. Which I think is part of the facination for a sailor and maybe a bother for others.
Posted by: jared | Aug 25 2024 1:13 utc | 182
juliania | Aug 25 2024 0:58 utc | 179
I some of what you Write there, we go back to Kissinger’s Westphalia. The church of Rome vs the rest.
“If that’s modernity, I don’t want it.”
In some ways you do. Like my sister, you have a huge empathy for others which is very good, yet that very empathy can and will be used against you.
I noticed your congratulations on ‘coming out’ some weeks back, your anger (for want of better term) at Karl and myself.
There are several homosexuals here that have the same thoughts as all of us regards what is going on in the world. I assume there are others. That I regard as normal. The Gay Paree debauchery is not normal.
Karl showcased the Gay Paree debauchery. We can look at war and it is a far off thing that can be discussed abstractly. We look at a photo of dead mother and child, dead mother broken by shrapnel still clutching the dead child. It is no longer abstract.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 25 2024 1:18 utc | 183
My usual typos in that one, but I guess the gist comes across.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 25 2024 1:20 utc | 184
Kamalagoodpuppet
Watched speech
Ouch, I’m bleeding
It is as it always was
Posted by: Slim | Aug 25 2024 1:23 utc | 185
Posted by: jared | Aug 25 2024 1:10 utc | 181
@ Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 0:32 utc | 178
The boat should not sink at 90 – were it sea worthy and hatches closed.
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One of the youtubes you linked linked to another with a very long comment by a marine architect familiar with this model. He said 90 would do it. Especially if there was turbulent wave action going on.
I saw a grainy video and it appears that at some point quickly she got flattened out. But this means the vessel had two anchors which would have kept her side-on to the wind, otherwise she would have moved around to face it (with a bow anchor) or away from it (with a better and safer stern anchor). If I am right, then having two anchors with a sudden huge wind coming across her beam (side-on) would have caused her to go over in no time.
Now maybe the twister was throwing huge winds in fast-changing directions and not much could have been done. If the tender (auxiliary boat/dinghy) is missing there is a possibility the door leading to it was open – maybe someone was trying to abandon the vessel but ran out of time? – and since that door was on the starboard side it would help things flood very quickly. But more likely is that when the boat was heeled over at 90 degrees that a huge amount of water flooded in through the deck openings (cockpit down to lower cabin) which, like I said before, would quickly fill the hull in the bulge facing downwards then keeping the vessel heeled over with the keel up and so more water would keep pouring in. Apparently the boat is still at 90 degrees on the bottom meaning that she sank that way. This is usually impossible and I am curious to see what explains it other than my little theory.
Yes, something extreme happened, but the skipper had two anchors out (seemingly and unfortunately), possibly a tender door open, guests not given warning of a serious storm let alone evacuated and, worst of all, the keel up so that if the vessel did heel over it would lack full righting moment. That’s quite a list.
Be interesting to see if the Italian prosecutors decide that a crime happened.
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 1:55 utc | 186
Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 25 2024 0:28 utc | 177
Sorry, in my last I referenced two videos. They were not posted by jared as I misremembered but LightYearsFromHome.
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 1:58 utc | 187
Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 0:58 utc | 179
Posted by: persiflo | Aug 23 2024 4:43 utc | 90:
“… The meaning of life and death, the why and whereto of creation, the how of daily conduct and its deeper meaning were all closely, inseperable in fact, related to the only idea of god, which was cast into a totalitarian society where church and state – monarchy – existed as two sides of one coin. Further reasoning was discouraged….”
I can’t follow your statements about modernity. They seem very shallow to me. How does a cube tell me anything about daily life except if I accidentally bump into a corner of it in the dark? Without the moorings of the questions of life and death, where we came from and where we are going, even pure reasoning in the abstract is very hard to follow. At least for me it is.
I would substitute ‘relationships’ for that somewhat vague term ‘the realities of daily life.’ And I would strongly recommend that we absorb the discussion of relationships that happens in Buber’s “I and Thou”. We are seeing that when you forget about human contacts with one another even in the absence of the existence question about God, realities become rather nightmarish.
Interesting interchange. I also didn’t much like that paragraph from persiflo but elected not to make another overly long comment about it. (Still working through a nasty flu!).
But if I understood him aright (and not sure I did), the cube is an analogy for modernist / materialist / split mind which does indeed, by separating self and other etc., block free and open relationship. So the cube is both self-contained, self-containing and comprised of fixed, measured proportions. Sort of like ‘thinking inside the box’.
I find all human beings fascinating and worthy of attention and personally am most interested in the differences and similarities of different cultures, also different times. The modernist world believes we are biological machines and thus discounts the value of relationship. And yet most cultures not based on this fallacy are built about and around relationship – sometimes even oppressively so – but at least they know that everything boils down to living experience and the unending dances we all perforce enjoy between self and no end of others, or thous.
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 2:08 utc | 188
Crooke used the term “Bourgeoisie revolution”.
It occurs both sides of the fence. So many wish to hide their eyes from the realities of the changing of eras and what that entails.
Within empire that entails full spectrum bullshittery amongst other things. So many are lured by it. Support what they are against and are against what they support.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 25 2024 2:42 utc | 189
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 25 2024 2:08 utc | 188
Thank you, Scorpion! When I get on my high horse I always sound too harsh, and it’s not people’s fault if they’ve only been exposed to what the west historically had to deal with as far as Christianity is concerned. The west has had a bad rap! I mean, even the break with Catholicism Britain had to deal with was a totally political one – monarchical but for the worst reasons.
That’s what I was ‘saved’ from by having part of my schooling in California. I got sent to a Catholic school there, after I was just beginning to study British history in New Zealand. (That was what you got back in the day because Britain was ‘home’.) So, I was treated kindly there, in the Catholic high school, but it always felt different from the protestant communities back in New Zealand. I never felt like joining up. Much later, after becoming a ‘liberal artist,’ and quite by accident, I came into a little Russian Orthodox community – and what can I say – it felt right. Still does.
Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 3:14 utc | 190
After the recent trolls whorehouse b politely termed Ukraine sit rep or Ukraine open thread, it opened my eyes to the bourgeoisie that live in some form of theoretical utopia.
Polite discussions with trolls who’s duty it is to disrupt and destroy. A bit mind boggling at times to realize many who hide in abstract discussions are so divorced from the real world.
Not to fear. The school of hard knocks is coming to all.
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 25 2024 3:25 utc | 191
Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 25 2024 1:18 utc | 183
Thank you, Peter! I can’t explain myself very well, but I did think of a comparison. The maori in their carvings never (or seldom) represent the human figure as we see it. They always distort the features. They do this out of respect, not to create caricatures although that is what they look like to us. They respect the makers of humans, which we are not. So, its a reservation, not a judgment.
I have a strong inhibition against not only what you describe but anything that might be considered pornographic out of respect for individuals and the choices they make in private relationship. That was all I was objecting to, the public display. My father had a similar feeling about religion. It was a private matter to him. Always.
It’s somewhat similar to what I feel about watching videos of war atrocities. The last time I even watched such was Bush’s shock and awe in Iraq, that first bombing. It so sickened me I can’t ever watch such a happening again. Once was enough. I even can’t watch a shooting or violence that isn’t real, in a movie or on tv. I close my eyes or even put my hands to my ears or press mute. Sorry to sound prudish; it isn’t that. I’m not judging. I’m avoiding.
I probably shouldn’t have said anything. That might have been better. Sorry if I hurt feelings.
Posted by: juliania | Aug 25 2024 4:02 utc | 192
@Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Aug 24 2024 23:05 utc | 171
Yep, certainly not the brightest bulb in the family but I have to agree more well meaning than Machiavellian. The DNC helped drive him into the arms of the Republicans by treating him so badly. But this is all small potatoes in a game among elites, where the people will be allowed to elect one elite or another and not much will really be different. All a pantomime called “democracy” while the owner class deals with its internal disagreements over some tactical issues. Both parties agree on neoliberalism, never ending funding for the military, and 100% support for the Zionist regime, and being anti-China and anti-Iran while making sure that certain cultural issues never get fixed (e.g. abortion) so they can keep fake fighting over them again and again. Only tactical differences are over Ukraine and whether or not more government largesse gets thrown at the oil and gas industry or at the likes of Musk.
Telegram founder Pavel Durov has been arrested on August 24 at a Paris airport, under a search warrant emitted by the French OFMIN, on charges of failure to cooperate with the French government related to drug smuggling, distribution of pornography, fraud and lack of moderation in the cross-platform messenger Telegram. “OFMIN”, “Office Mineurs”, is that part of the French police responsible for combating offences committed against minors of age.
Pavel Durov has been called the Russian Mark Zuckerberg. Pavel Durov left Russia in 2014 and announced that he was not going to return. He could be right in that.
Posted by: Passerby | Aug 25 2024 5:39 utc | 194
Just being a Tribune here announcing my mirroring of Dr. Hudson’s latest podcast that’s Priceless thanks to the questions he’s asked and of course the answers given, “Priceless Education from Dr. Hudson”, and I tout my mirror because my preamble provides relevant context as well as a space to discuss the podcast’s contents.
I do hope b has caught the original in his net and puts it in the week in review listing.
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Posted by: colin | Aug 25 2024 6:48 utc | 196
b and others in places like Germany have no idea how much of the post 2004 expansion immigration Britain took.
Posted by: Altai | Aug 22 2024 10:26 utc | 2
Tony B. wanted Poland to join the EU, to offset the weight of France and Germany in the EU. The price to pay was opening the UK labor market to Poles. Ironically, the large migration that resulted was one of the reasons behind the Brexit vote.
Political use of migration rarely turns out as well as expected. See Joe Biden and Angela Merkel.
Posted by: Passerby | Aug 25 2024 8:49 utc | 197
“Yep, [RFK]certainly not the brightest bulb in the family but I have to agree more well meaning than Machiavellian. ”
Posted by: Roger | Aug 25 2024 5:27 utc | 193
With all due respect, Roger, you are wrong about RFK’s intelligence.
Thank God I followed his advice-I took his sage advice and did not get ANY mRNA shots whereas many of my peers have had severe reactions-one a heart attack, another a lung transplant where both their doctors attributed their maladies to their second mRNA shot.
RFK Jr. wrote a book named simply “The real Anthony Fauci” which is enclopediac in its comprehensiveness as well as expressing severe accusations against Fauci. It is all true otherwise Fauci would have sued RFK Jr. for libel.
I suggest you read the tome and educate yourself so you can reevaluate your casual as well as inaccurate portrayal of the man.
1..https://www.amazon.ca/s?k=the+real+anthony+fauci&hvadid=588879093037&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000854&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=11336423885641150011&hvtargid=kwd-921452161835&hydadcr=11778_13318493&tag=googcana-20&ref=pd_sl_4580id7ami_e
Palestine comments: 94
Ukraine comments: 883
Other comments: 198
This means NAFO posts more than Hasbara.
Posted by: Passerby | Aug 25 2024 10:50 utc | 199
https://rumble.com/v4qazck-tucker-on-x-ep94-pavel-durov.html
45:34
Pavel Durov: “It makes sense to remain prudent and (not) be too accessible, traveling to weird places.”
Tucker Carlson: “You don’t travel to weird places?”
Pavel Durov: “I hope not, I travel to places where I have confidence that those places are consistent with what we do and our values. I don’t go to any of the big geopolitical powers or countries like China or Russia or the US.”
Guess he didn’t pay attention to the faith of other persons of interest that got abducted in places belonging to the US hegemony like Julian Assange, Victor Bout, Alex Saab, … .
Posted by: xor | Aug 25 2024 10:57 utc | 200