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August 8, 2024
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2024-187
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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@ Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 9 2024 4:39 utc | 87 Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 9 2024 9:41 utc | 101 Case Strengthens for a Second Shooter in Butler, PA Posted by: grunzt | Aug 9 2024 9:47 utc | 102
When in the same sentence you use the words “crazed” and “psycho” to describe someone and deny this person any mental health issue, it means you don’t even understand yourself…
First, in the US, everyone, except Native Americans and Afro Americans, comes from the same illegal immigrant background. And barely two and a half centuries of White America won’t change these facts. Same goes for Australia. Whites are as immigrants as it gets. Posted by: xiao pignouf | Aug 9 2024 10:27 utc | 103 This woman is so cute, funny and hep. Posted by: waynorinorway | Aug 9 2024 10:27 utc | 104 Let me also repeat that while my guess of the end of July for a civilization war climax was wrong but I still believe that that some sort of military climax will happen in Ukraine, Occupied Palestine or both before November. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 9 2024 11:07 utc | 105 I don’t know if you’re in Britain, but I was curious about one of the prevailing claims made by-and-about the demonstrations/protests/”race riots” in England. Namely, the complaint that there are two-tiered policing/justice and social service systems and that recent immigrants/refugees are given advantages in both not enjoyed by “white” native Englanders. Posted by: Red Star | Aug 9 2024 11:20 utc | 106 Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has announced a temporary ban on X (formerly Twitter) in the country. The decision followed his war of words with the platform’s CEO, Elon Musk, who has accused Maduro of election fraud. Posted by: Fred | Aug 9 2024 11:37 utc | 107 So having been ruthlessly exploited by the Establishment rich in the days of industrial revolution and empire, the poorer non-establishment citizens of Britain are now being punished *a second time* via destruction of their identity, culture and living areas. Posted by: Red Star | Aug 9 2024 11:43 utc | 108 In case you missed it. Posted by: Red Star | Aug 9 2024 12:06 utc | 109 War on Gaza: Israel has created its own Abu Ghraib – and the world is silent Posted by: Fred | Aug 9 2024 12:12 utc | 110 @xiao pignouf | Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:02:00 GMT | 99
Racism presents in a person due to different underlying motives. Those that you describe, who seek inner homeoastasis by involving/blaming outside factors (call it projection; a bit like a cat chasing its own tail) are primarily psychiatric cases. Posted by: persiflo | Aug 9 2024 12:19 utc | 111 It’s a shame the linked video won’t play without TG login.
Posted by: anon2020 | Aug 9 2024 12:58 utc | 112 I can’t see any future scenario where Ritter is “rehabilitated” and allowed back into the establishment fold. Posted by: Honzo | Aug 9 2024 13:03 utc | 113 Posted by: Honzo | Aug 9 2024 13:03 utc | 113 – The current effort to make the memory of the Trump shooting disappear in public space Posted by: jinn | Aug 9 2024 13:12 utc | 115 I’m wondering what you think of allowing scabs to cross picket lines? Posted by: KMRIA | Aug 9 2024 13:32 utc | 116 Posted by: Michael A | Aug 8 2024 19:26 utc | 31 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Aug 9 2024 13:52 utc | 117 Another tour de force from Bhadrakumar, on southeast Asia.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 9 2024 14:34 utc | 118 Many thanks to karlof1 at Aug 9 2024 1:53 utc | 77, and psychohistorian lower down at 79.
Yesterday I took in the Duran’s discussion with Martin Armstrong – an economist who to me sounds very much as does Michael Hudson at least with respect to what is happening in a totally negative way. Without really knowing, I suspect he is one of those economists who took what Prof. Hudson is saying and used it successfully as a playbook. I think the Duran were taken aback; I certainly was. Posted by: juliania | Aug 9 2024 14:51 utc | 119 What’s up with all the young folks doing the videos on how America deserved 9?11? I’m pretty sure it’s a ploy to cement the narrative that it was done by Islamic terrorists in everyone’s heads – maybe something is brewing that threatens to upset the apple cart: https://folkpotpourri.com/a-new-video-more-9-11-deception/ Posted by: Ozark Grandpa | Aug 9 2024 14:53 utc | 120
Which is what I meant by “utter ignorance”. Ignorance generates fear, fear generates rejection. But since the world is at our doorstep, fear is now artificially induced by the msm and social media. Posted by: xiao pignouf | Aug 9 2024 15:01 utc | 121 Remember McAffee . Adventurous rebel ancap sort of character that not all would relate to, maybe mixed in to a wider story maybe not . British. Sort of drifted off the radar but I would keep up every now and again. As most will not have this is how all went: Posted by: Ornot | Aug 9 2024 15:08 utc | 122 @ Honzo 113 Posted by: JessDTruth | Aug 9 2024 15:15 utc | 123
To me, what makes it look like a secret service plot is the no end of loose ends every which way but loosed. @ psychohistorian | Aug 9 2024 4:30 utc | 86 Posted by: james | Aug 9 2024 15:43 utc | 125 With all respect due to Michael Hudson, I don’t get all this talk of a crash on August 5th. I just threw up a Weekly Chart of the SP500 and it’s in a strong uptrend with what is as yet a minor correction underway already looking like it might go back up to test recent all-time highs made only a month ago. https://www.arktosjournal.com/p/decoupling Ritter4 is not ‘controlled opposition’-that idea is fanciful Posted by: Honzo | Aug 9 2024 16:46 utc | 128 When the 2016 attempted coup occurred against Erdogan, there was (and still is) a question about whether it was real or a staged event by him to seize power. Because he responded exactly like how an autocrat would respond to an assassination attempt, creating a major nationwide crackdown on the Gulen movement and thereby flushing out CIA clandestine operations out of Turkey, I concluded that the assassination attempt was real and not staged. Perhaps that isn’t possible in the US, but I would expect there to be an army of attorneys filing lawsuits against the SS, FBI, and DHS demanding to know why he wasn’t adequately protected, afterall, there is indisputable evidence of incompetence if not a conspiracy to assassinate him. Instead Trump responds to the whole affair by letting the SS off the hook. That is not how someone with his defiant character, power within the Republican party and money should have responded to an actual assasination. Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 9 2024 16:53 utc | 129 As far as his Presidential run, what better way to expose the depravity of the Biden administration and show that he is a fighter. Instead, he rolled over and is now tied with an even worse Presidential Candidate, Harris, than Biden. Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 9 2024 17:00 utc | 130 Just like in 2016, the media is pushing Harris winning in every poll like they did with Hillary. Posted by: RobertJHarsh | Aug 9 2024 17:01 utc | 131 We need to emphasize what canuck 114 wrote: “Ritter is not ‘controlled opposition. Posted by: Honzo | Aug 9 2024 17:04 utc | 132 Posted by: Honzo | Aug 9 2024 17:04 utc | 132 Posted by: Turk 152 | Aug 9 2024 17:26 utc | 133 A Gaza on our urban doorstep Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 9 2024 18:02 utc | 134 over one hundred thousand per room, remodeling hotels in relatively decent condition, as opposed to entire large apartment facilities on the market for a million or two, somehow, those sales are interrupted. Posted by: Not Ewe | Aug 9 2024 18:07 utc | 135 xiao pignouf | Aug 9 2024 15:01 utc | 121 Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 9 2024 18:32 utc | 136 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2024 21:39 utc | 46 Posted by: horseguards | Aug 9 2024 19:06 utc | 137 Posted by: Ornot | Aug 8 2024 22:12 utc | 50 Posted by: horseguards | Aug 9 2024 19:14 utc | 138 Just thinking, which is a bad habit. Who built the pyramids, Machu Pichu, Nan Madol and others? With all of our supposed technology, could we do it today? Probably not with Americans. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 9 2024 21:12 utc | 139 I believe 90% of what Ritter says is the truth which is given with much greater liberty than anyone else, but it is the last 10% that worries me. Posted by: Honzo | Aug 9 2024 21:33 utc | 140
We were talking about a certain kind of racism which is based on a mix between ignorance and propaganda. They fear what they don’t know, they fear because someone tell them to do so. Posted by: xiao pignouf | Aug 9 2024 23:06 utc | 141 I would also like to point out that yes, America was conquered. But it took at least 200 years. We don’t denigrate Ghengis for his exploits, why are we crying about Americans? They’re just doing what they were taught. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 9 2024 23:35 utc | 142 Red Star | Aug 9 2024 11:43 utc | 108 Posted by: Cynic | Aug 9 2024 23:43 utc | 143 I see in Croatia, black shirts marching in large numbers. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 10 2024 0:01 utc | 144 France -25% wheat… wouldn’t it be a pity if nothing came from ukraine? Posted by: Newbie | Aug 10 2024 1:25 utc | 145 I watched an interview with Jeffery Sachs. The amazing thing is that he plainly states what I have suspected is true (and I’m a nobody). Posted by: Eighthman | Aug 10 2024 1:35 utc | 146 This conversation from Ray McGovern is difficult to categorize but so full of interest it deserves to be considered on this forum. Posted by: juliania | Aug 10 2024 1:43 utc | 147 Someone care for a serbia flavored color? Posted by: Newbie | Aug 10 2024 1:45 utc | 148 Newbie | Aug 10 2024 1:45 utc | 148 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 10 2024 2:03 utc | 149 I’m going to Colombia, from Madrid, 12 hours to Bogota. I’m with the cellphone on my own mess. Posted by: Premind | Aug 10 2024 2:14 utc | 150 Color revolutions are ramping up along with everything else. US just had a success in Bangladesh. Idiots there can now likely go in the trashbin of history. Posted by: Newbie | Aug 10 2024 2:32 utc | 151 “assassination attempt on Trump was a secret service failure.” (confusion) Posted by: Fred | Aug 10 2024 2:47 utc | 152 starting just after the trump shooting – Rally body cam footage Posted by: Fred | Aug 10 2024 3:01 utc | 153 On roof with SWAT and local police w dead body views – 17 to 20 minutes Posted by: Fred | Aug 10 2024 3:27 utc | 155 Before and after shooting Posted by: Fred | Aug 10 2024 3:30 utc | 156 This is quite good a montage of multiple videos including the recent ones. Posted by: Fred | Aug 10 2024 3:40 utc | 157 Why do our politicians all sound like Grima Wormtongue? Must be the CO2 in the air. Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 10 2024 3:42 utc | 158 Stand Up To Racism is of course doing nothing of the sort, and Suresh’s source – and there appears to be only one source – is a slightly hysterical unsigned letter from someone pushing their own agenda. Posted by: Suresh | Aug 10 2024 3:55 utc | 159 The red star… so much trash coming out of the woodwork. The western so called ‘liberalism’ so many here support its a bit mind boggling. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 10 2024 4:24 utc | 160 Posted by: horseguards | Aug 9 2024 19:06 utc | 137 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2024 4:50 utc | 161 Stammer
When CIA/MI6 raised hell in HK 2019….. Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2024 4:53 utc | 162 Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 9 2024 4:39 utc | 87 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2024 4:54 utc | 163 Venezuela triggers the algorithim
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2002/04/richard-cummings/i-met-her-in-venezuela/ Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2024 5:11 utc | 164 Venezuela triggers the algorithim Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2024 5:16 utc | 165 Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2024 4:53 utc | 162 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2024 5:19 utc | 166 Violence, looting, burning, mayhem all attributable to USA and UK imperial fascist capitalist dictatorship thugs infiltrating or false-flagging or actually taking part openly in protests: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2024 5:25 utc | 167 Can’t have “the threat of a good example” in Uncle Scam’s backyard, amirite? Least of all when it’s “brown people” succeeding.
Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2024 5:32 utc | 168 And in all cases it’s literally the US fascist thugs infiltrating the demonstrations specifically with the goal of causing violence and rioting.
Purportedly put up by some Muslim immigrants. Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2024 5:44 utc | 169 * Anywhere, anytime that the US capitalist terror state has been “interested” since 1945 Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2024 5:48 utc | 170 Some western propaganda on China banning effeminate men in the awhile back. Any sane country would. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 10 2024 6:46 utc | 171 Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2024 22:56 utc Posted by: Some Random Passerby | Aug 10 2024 7:25 utc | 172
They do have immigration policies but these are not subjected to similar circumstances EU and US have to face and that they’re responsible for : wars, chaos, misery… These circumstances resulted from colonialism, imperialism and atlantism. China and Russia don’t have to bear their consequences. Posted by: xiao pignouf | Aug 10 2024 7:59 utc | 173 Strike2 or Boeing?
https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/29900 Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 10 2024 8:35 utc | 174 B now has the difficult task of deciding the biggest conflict in a generation and creating a multi polar bar as we witness the war of Newbie versus newbie. Posted by: Rhymerez | Aug 10 2024 12:49 utc | 175 /laps up some spilt ‘bar water’ Posted by: titmouse | Aug 10 2024 13:14 utc | 176 Russian Federation is an embarrassing entity. I’m supposed to be happy we are supposedly entering a new multipolar world and THIS is the other pole? Lordy. Funny the RF regime is ashamed of their Soviet past when all they are is a fucking parasite living off of a superstructure built by the Bolsheviks. They should be thanking god almighty everyday the Bolsheviks built up the formerly backwards empire into the superpower that the RF (nominally) exists as today. Posted by: Savant Idiot | Aug 10 2024 13:26 utc | 177 But seriously, how many Venezuelans have you actually met, and where? Did you ask them if they were members of a country club in Caracas suburbs before they “fled”? Posted by: Honzo | Aug 10 2024 15:13 utc | 178 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwD3zn5nA5I Scorpion @ 179 Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 10 2024 16:54 utc | 180 My piece on the Olympic doping issues, that perfectly match the concept of the Western Liberal “Rules Based” International Order. One rule for the West, another rule for the Rest, and no rules for the US. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 8 2024 23:33 utc | 55 Posted by: Blissex | Aug 10 2024 17:59 utc | 182 Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2024 4:53 utc | 162 Posted by: Blissex | Aug 10 2024 18:20 utc | 183 Posted by: jopalolive | Aug 9 2024 0:00 utc | 56 Posted by: Blissex | Aug 10 2024 18:35 utc | 184 Those people in Hong Kong were “brave” “freedom fighters”: 🙂 Posted by: denk | Aug 10 2024 19:11 utc | 185 Elon King of Mars jumps the shark. Posted by: DunGroanin | Aug 10 2024 21:58 utc | 186 Breaking News: The Trump campaign’s emails were “hacked” by “Iran”!!! LMAO, here we go again. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 10 2024 22:20 utc | 187 Ahh! Britain! The nation that leaves passengers stranded on stuck trains for getting on for 6 hours without any water or food: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/ecml-blocked-stevenage-hitchin-09-08-and-10-08.272079/ Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Aug 10 2024 22:24 utc | 188 The psych-ops going on in the UK to ferment ethnic violence is a classic divide and conquer maneuver. Kit Knightly at off-g nailed their agenda right from the get go. Posted by: simon crow | Aug 10 2024 22:38 utc | 189 Posted by: simon crow | Aug 10 2024 22:38 utc | 189 Posted by: Siddhartha | Aug 10 2024 23:04 utc | 190 The RF wouldn’t even be around without the Bolsheviks. Russia would right now be a Balkanized series of statelets speaking German in the west and Japanese in the east without the 1917 revolution. Historical speculation is always perilous: there perhaps wouldn’t have been a third Reich, but the second Reich would have forced a defeat onto Kerensky as his army melted away into the country side in 1917-19. The allied intervention would have taken place anyways, and only the East would have been fortified against German, Czech, etc incursions. Posted by: Chombywombo | Aug 10 2024 23:27 utc | 191 More on the Zionist connection to the riots in Britain. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 11 2024 0:07 utc | 192 Delusional isn’t strong enough to cover it. I despair… Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2024 1:21 utc | 193 xiao pignouf | Aug 10 2024 7:59 utc | 173 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2024 1:36 utc | 194 So when Trump wins in November, if the whole Middle East isn’t already at war, I guess we should expect a full-on war on Iran. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2024 2:11 utc | 195 When I was young, I remember several times hearing on the radio of homosexuals being caught, convicted and sentenced to jail. I though that was wrong and still do. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2024 2:34 utc | 196 “The first two now taken to extremes = extremism. Migration….. unlimited migration in Europe and US. Posted by: Wisco | Aug 11 2024 2:52 utc | 197 Wisco | Aug 11 2024 2:52 utc | 197 Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2024 3:24 utc | 198 “That word ‘sustainability’ – key to everything.” Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2024 3:27 utc | 199 The trash about Scot Ritter recently in one or anther thread. Craig Murray spent most of his life within the establishment. It has taken him far longer to shake off establishment beliefs than has Ritter. Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 11 2024 4:25 utc | 200 |
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