Isn’t a Wiener Schnitzel supposed to be made with veal?

Posted by: Lysias | Aug 4 2024 14:01 utc | 3

Seen the first pics of the Brit stabber, might be fake, might be AI, but if that’s him, definitely a Brit, even has typical Viking curls, can’t see his eyes though, so maybe part Anglo part Saxon……hard to tell these days with so much ethnic identify theft going on.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Aug 4 2024 14:11 utc | 5

Brit stabber is born in Wales to parents from Rwanda

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Aug 4 2024 14:27 utc | 7

Lindsay Graham wants more war… this time with Iran
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/106
>… he’s everything that’s wrong
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tFKq4v8y1kau
Probably the U$ was calculating access to Venezuelan oil as it activates further chaos in the ME.
Lindsay “Ladybugs” Graham.
An unverified and rapidly deleted xtwitterX post ….

Lindsay Graham hired me as a male escort
Philip Huang June 6, 2020

When I came out of the bathroom, he was on the bed, naked, on all fours.
I noted there were dark marks around his anus. I asked if he had showered (he said yes).
I asked if it was OK if I wiped him down (he said sure).
I wet a face towel and wiped and wiped between his buttocks but nothing was coming off. Then I realised that his taint wasn’t dirty, it was full of moles.
Dark moles, in dense clusters up and down the length of his taint.
“Aw,” he said. “Hope you don’t mind. Those are just my little ladybugs.”
I ran out of there.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 4 2024 14:43 utc | 9

Just wanted to share some insightful commentary from journalist/author Patrick Lawrence, an excellent way to define the world’s predicament….and a great read.
The Wreckage Biden Leaves
A lightweight when it came time to prove himself as a statesman and a leader, the White House has simply defeated him.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/07/24/patrick-lawrence-the-wreckage-biden-leaves/

Posted by: PassionateProgressiv | Aug 4 2024 14:55 utc | 11

From a jpost article on Genocide Josh leading the veepstakes:

“Every potential nominee for Vice President is pro-Israel,” tweeted New York Rep. Ritchie Torres, an outspoken pro-Israel Democrat. “Yet only one, Josh Shapiro, has been singled out by a far-left smear campaign calling him ‘Genocide Josh.’ The reason he is treated differently from the rest? Antisemitism.”

https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/article-813012
The glasses (dare I mention the nose-size?) might also have something to do with it. It’s totally antisemitic to see things like physical characteristics, but at some point we’ve got to wonder about the optics of running Woody Allen for vice president of the United States — at this desperate point in world history.
We USAmericans look like pathetic tools to the whole world. The Groucho Marx affect is just icing on the layer-cake of complicity in genocide, in the name of Jewish supremacy. Blinken jets around vaunting his beanie. We’ve given up on refuting the appearance of servility to Jewish fascism.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Aug 4 2024 15:07 utc | 13

unimperator shared this on the open thread earlier and i am putting it here because i think it is important.. professor miller is sharing some details on this tommy robinson fellow that i was personally unaware of prior to roger pointing it out the other day on a palestine open thread… so here is his latest off twitter..
“Tommy Robinson (Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) and the English Defence League (English & Jewish Defence League) are supposedly Israeli state assets in UK, with the purpose of violently countering pro-Palestine rallies in Britain, according to this analyst.
What’s causing the Islamophobic riots across the UK, and why now?
1. The riots have been instigated by the Zionist asset Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (‘Tommy Robinson’), who has been working for the State of Israel since 2009 as part of the so-called ‘counterjihad’ Islamophobia movement established by that state. When his organisation, the English Defence League, was incorporated in 2011, two years after its inception, it was named the English & Jewish Defence League. The Jewish Defence League, a Zionist terrorist organisation, has been a key part of violent Islamophobic street thuggery in the UK over the past decade.
2. Yaxley-Lennon is one of the most high-profile actors in the State of Israel’s Online Influencers Programme in response to Operation Al-Aqsa Storm. He and others, like Oli London, Noa Tishby, Hen Mazzig, Arsen Ostrovsky and Emily Schrader (and many others) are paid to distribute Zionist propaganda, of which pushing back against pro-Palestine protests and sowing Islamophobia are two important and interlinked aims.
3. The recent Islamophobic riots in the UK should be seen as the latest phase of the State of Israel’s war on British Muslims, who it sees as originating the protest movement in the UK. These riots are designed to punish Muslims for their anti-Zionist sentiment after various other methods to suppress opposition to Zionism by the State of Israel have been thwarted. The State of Israel’s attempts to use its assets and operatives in the British political and media class — such as Suella Braverman and Michael Gove — to thwart pro-Palestinian protests have failed. Zionist counter-protests have failed to mobilise significant numbers. Sporadic Zionist thuggery and the use of other assets — such as Iranian secularist extremists — have also failed to intimidate Muslims. So now the State of Israel is weaponising its cannon fodder on the white nationalist far-right, who have greater numbers than either Zionist street thugs or Iranian monarchists and secularist extremists.
4. Finally, there are also questions about which actor authored the idea that Muslims were responsible for the ostensible triggers for these events. MI6 and its assets (eg Paul Mason) are desperately trying to pretend this was a Russian disinfo op. But the original stories did not come from Russia. Where did they come from?
https://x.com/Tracking_Power/status/1819696060941627553
Posted by: unimperator | Aug 4 2024 12:24 utc”

Posted by: james | Aug 4 2024 15:35 utc | 15

LoveDonbass | Aug 4 2024 14:46 utc | 10
*** Pork is haram. It’s not just a Muslim thing, it’s an Abrahamic thing. So-called Christians are not supposed to be eating pork.***
I’m an atheist barbarian and last night had a very nice pork and mushroom curry from the local Chinese takeaway.

Posted by: Cynic | Aug 4 2024 15:41 utc | 17

Schnitzel yet again:
Yes, the classic Schnitzel is made from veal. In Vienna most Schnitzel is “vom Schwein” and is always so indicated on menus. Most Beisel also have veal (at extra cost of course); turkey (Truthahn) is also frequently found.
I haven’t eaten what they call Schnitzel in the Texas Hill Country but imagine it’s just a breaded pork cutlet such as I’ve encountered at German restaurants elsewhere, including in several parts of Germany. That much said, Altstadt in Fredericksburg makes a Weizenbier of world-class quality.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 4 2024 15:55 utc | 19

@ Melaleuca | Aug 4 2024 14:43 utc | 9
Those “little ladybugs” have a name: Condyloma acuminatum. There are available medications to treat them, but in such an advance case cryosurgery would seem to be urgently indicated.
Sounds like Miss Lindsey has been busy — and all the time I’d assumed he was a repressed virgin.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 4 2024 16:05 utc | 21

@17
Poor mushrooms.

Posted by: Ornot | Aug 4 2024 16:11 utc | 23

@ grunzt | Aug 4 2024 15:47 utc | 18
thanks grunzt.. that is a great interview that others here would enjoy listening to..

Posted by: james | Aug 4 2024 16:20 utc | 25

For the record, I like liverwurst and bratwurst. I also have a great recipe for potato salad.

Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 4 2024 16:30 utc | 27

Very violent scenes in England

Posted by: Norwegian | Aug 4 2024 16:45 utc | 29

A comment on Schnitzel by a Texan of Swiss-German heritage.
Posted by: SwissArmyMan | Aug 4 2024 13:52 utc | 2
I see the Schnitzel is the new Aztec in the open thread…
No news on Venezuela, China, etc?
P.S. Best Schnitzel ever is octopus Schnitzel with some vegetables risotto.

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 4 2024 16:59 utc | 31

https://miniszterelnok.hu/en/speech-by-prime-minister-viktor-orban-at-the-33rd-balvanyos-summer-free-university-and-student-camp/
11,000 word transcript of Orban’s lecture. Intro:

Ladies and Gentlemen,
We have not received a démarche from Bucharest, but – to prevent us getting bored – we have received one from Brussels: they have condemned the Hungarian peace mission efforts. I have tried – without success – to explain that there is such a thing as Christian duty. This means that if you see something bad in the world – especially something very bad – and you receive some instrument for its correction, then it is a Christian duty to take action, without undue contemplation or reflection. The Hungarian peace mission is about this duty. I would like to remind all of us that the EU has a founding treaty, which contains these exact words: “The Union’s aim is peace”. Brussels is also offended at our describing what they are doing as a pro-war policy. They say that they are supporting the war in the interest of peace. Central Europeans like us are immediately reminded of Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, who taught that with the advent of communism the state will die, but that the state will die while first constantly strengthening. Brussels is also creating peace by constantly supporting war. Just as we did not understand Lenin’s thesis in our university lectures on the history of the labour movement, I do not understand the Brusseleers in European Council meetings. Perhaps Orwell was right after all when he wrote that in “Newspeak” peace is war and war is peace. Despite all the criticism, let us remind ourselves that since the beginning of our peace mission the US and Russian war ministers have spoken to each other, the Swiss and Russian foreign ministers have held talks, President Zelenskyy has finally called President Trump, and the Ukrainian foreign minister has been to Beijing. So fermentation has begun, and we are slowly but surely moving from a pro-war European policy to a pro-peace policy. This is inevitable, because time is on the side of peace policy. Reality has dawned on the Ukrainians, and now it is up to the Europeans to come to their senses, before it is too late: “Trump ante portas”. If by then Europe does not switch to a policy of peace, then after Trump’s victory it will have to do so while admitting defeat, covered in shame, and admitting sole responsibility for its policy.
But, Ladies and Gentlemen, The subject of today’s presentation is not peace. Please regard what I have said so far as a digression. In fact, for those who are thinking about the future of the world, and of Hungarians within it, there are three big issues on the table today. The first is the war – or more precisely, an unexpected side-effect of the war. This is the fact that the war reveals the reality in which we live. This reality was not visible and could not be described earlier, but it has been illuminated by the blazing light of missiles fired in the war. The second big issue on the table is what will happen after the war. Will a new world come into being, or will the old one continue? And if a new world is coming – and this is our third big issue – how should Hungary prepare for this new world? The fact is that I need to talk about all three, and I need to talk about them here – first of all because these are the big issues that are best discussed in this “free university” format. From another point of view, we need a pan-Hungarian approach, as looking at these issues only from the point of view of a “Little Hungary” would be too constricting; it is therefore justified to talk about these issues in front of Hungarians outside our borders.

A lucid voice of sanity in the heart of old Europe.

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 4 2024 17:07 utc | 33

Georgia Averts Coup by US-Backed War Criminal Group https://activemeasures.substack.com/p/georgia-averts-coup-by-us-backed
Posted by: Dogon Priest | Aug 4 2024 17:03 utc | 32
Now we’re talking!
Now, I didn’t find much on MSM. Do you know if the news you posted concerns the Bidzina Ivanishvili assassination attempt (and coup) of a week ago or if its another try?
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/georgia-accuses-ex-officials-plotting-091717789.html

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 4 2024 17:20 utc | 35

For the record, I like liverwurst and bratwurst. I also have a great recipe for potato salad.
Posted by: Immaculate deception | Aug 4 2024 16:30 utc | 27
I eat it all. If God existed, would he really give a shit? The food restrictions are one aspect of a bunch of arbitrary regulations promulgated in the middle east thousands of years ago with zero relevance to modern life except where the dead hand of the past controls the minds of the local oligarchs.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Aug 4 2024 17:36 utc | 37

I don’t normally suggest such as this, but there is a post at 9 which deserves removal – this may not be a forum for children but it is becoming a place I do not wish to be. I think that is its purpose so won’t say more except to repost a link that was on the previous open thread. And with it, I hope to appeal to everyone to lift the debate because the need is urgent. Here is that link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH7LT1bIdpY

Posted by: juliania | Aug 4 2024 17:49 utc | 39

Pork is haram. It’s not just a Muslim thing, it’s an Abrahamic thing. So-called Christians are not supposed to be eating pork.
Po1sted by: LoveDonbass | Aug 4 2024 14:46 utc | 10
********************
Genesis 1 (paraphrasing) And God saw all HE made was good.
Peter 1(maybe 2, paraphrasing) And Peter had the vision a third time were God gathered up all things created and said eat Peter. And Peter said again Lord I cannot eat all because many are unclean. And this time God replied, “Do not call what I have made good unclean.”
This was the vision that convinced Peter, that Jewish laws and the Old Covenant stipulating only Jews as the chosen people were not to apply to those accepting faith and salvation in Christ.
In many ways it is somewhat self evident that if all God creation was good; then stipulations that certain things would be set apart as unclean, is inconsistent with all creation being good. To my knowledge Christianity is the only religion that does not specify any animals or vegetation or classes/castes of persons as unclean. All people are worthy of full salvation in Christianity.

Posted by: Jerr | Aug 4 2024 17:54 utc | 41

@ Scorpion | Aug 4 2024 17:07 utc | 33
thanks scorpion… i liked what you quoted.. there seems to be a strong reliance on a trump victory that is built into the quoted section…
@ juliania | Aug 4 2024 17:49 utc | 39
thanks juliania.. i share your viewpoint.. thanks again for the link to the choral chant work in a previous thread.. great stuff.. i will look at it…

Posted by: james | Aug 4 2024 18:01 utc | 43

@33 scorpion
Here we are at 1938 again. Orban playing the role of Chamberlain. The rest of the EU bureaucrats probably think he is some kind of appeaser.
But Hitler Putin will take all of Europe! (Leaving our own empire as second fiddle)
I don’t like to belabor this point anymore because many find the idea that Putin has taken over the mantle of Hitler vis-a-vis the liberal world order distasteful and insulting towards Putin.
But where Hitler failed, I think Putin will succeed. (Weathering the lashing-out from the liberal world order for not towing-the-line or giving all of Russia away)

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 4 2024 18:25 utc | 45

am i blocked???

Posted by: ld | Aug 4 2024 18:46 utc | 47

Id @ 47
Apparently not, good thing too, post more your an assit.
———
And speaking of assits is ‘sknitzal’ some kind of code word ? What am i missing here.

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 4 2024 19:08 utc | 49

“Lindsay Graham wants more war… this time with Iran
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/106
>… he’s everything that’s wrong
https://www.bitchute.com/video/tFKq4v8y1kau
Probably the U$ was calculating access to Venezuelan oil as it activates further chaos in the ME.
Lindsay “Ladybugs” Graham.
An unverified and rapidly deleted xtwitterX post ….
Lindsay Graham hired me as a male escort
Philip Huang June 6, 2020
When I came out of the bathroom, he was on the bed, naked, on all fours.
I noted there were dark marks around his anus. I asked if he had showered (he said yes).
I asked if it was OK if I wiped him down (he said sure).
I wet a face towel and wiped and wiped between his buttocks but nothing was coming off. Then I realised that his taint wasn’t dirty, it was full of moles.
Dark moles, in dense clusters up and down the length of his taint.
“Aw,” he said. “Hope you don’t mind. Those are just my little ladybugs.”
I ran out of there.”
Posted by: Melaleuca | Aug 4 2024 14:43 utc |
“I don’t normally suggest such as this, but there is a post at 9 which deserves removal – this may not be a forum for children but it is becoming a place I do not wish to be. ”
Posted by: juliania | Aug 4 2024 17:49 utc | 39
Juliania melaleuca’s post was accurate-it was the truth.
Lindsay Graham is a top neo con and his focus is brining on WW3-hence, as disgusting as the truth was its important when we ahve a possible nuclear war on our hands.
If you find it distasteful because of its abhorrent reality-if you can’t stand the heart get out of the kitchen.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 4 2024 19:19 utc | 51

All this talk of sausages, schnitzel and ladybugs has put me off my breakfast…

Posted by: Patroklos | Aug 4 2024 19:41 utc | 53

Ornot @28: “Managing to get “food” and “circumcision” into the same sentence takes some doing.”
Don’t the Jews do the genital mutilation thing with their teeth? Maybe the two concepts of “food” and “circumcision” are thus related, at least for Jews.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 4 2024 19:55 utc | 55

If god didn’t intend for us to eat pigs, he wouldn’t have made them out of bacon.

Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 4 2024 20:00 utc | 57

Multiple surveys show that only a minority of Hindus are vegetarian — roughly around 40%. You can easily google this. Similarly, despite the teachings of Gautama Buddha, Buddhists in several countries are overwhelmingly carnivorous.
Posted by: malenkov | Aug 4 2024 19:58 utc | 56
Two small corrections:
1. Yes, only around 40% announce they’re (lacto) vegetarian, but many others stick most of the time to the same diet (although they stray and do not consider themselves vegetarian)
2. There is a strong divide between west/central vegetarians and east carnivores
I for one, believe in commutative vegetarianism, I eat plants transformed by an authorized animal 😀

Posted by: Newbie | Aug 4 2024 20:23 utc | 59

“If god didn’t intend for us to eat pigs, he wouldn’t have made them out of bacon.”
Posted by: William Gruff | Aug 4 2024 20:00 utc | 57
Not bad.

Posted by: canuck | Aug 4 2024 20:56 utc | 61

William Gruff | Aug 4 2024 19:55 utc | 55
Trivia – Many oz aboriginals would have a front tooth knocked out – I think that had something to do with lockjaw/tetanus, plus circumcision was widely practice as part of the ceremony of a boy be a man. How far back circumcision goes is difficult to tell but likely originated at the time before modern humans first began spreading around the world and long before the hebrew tribe was even a twinkle in jehovah’s eye. I assume something to do with preventing infection in that area.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 21:08 utc | 63

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 4 2024 19:58 utc | 56
Regarding variations of eating meat among Hindus.
1. Nowadays more and more Hindus everywhere are eating meat. More international is one reason–like my husband who moved to the US. Elders retain the old customs–like his parents
2. The “Southies”, those of South India, were and still are more serious about not eating any kind of
meat. Contrastingly, as you travel north in India, you will see more meat being eaten by Hindus–chicken, and eggs but rarely beef. Why? A shorter growing season, less veggies in some seasons.
3. My husband’s dad ate eggs. His mother does not. Why? His father said the nutrition in eggs was important for a vegetarian…
4. Their two sons came to the US and eat eveything.
5. Lower caste Hindus are generally very poor. They are excused from Hindu eating restrictions as I understand.
Muslims–many more in North India than in the south. They tend to remain just non-pork eaters.

Posted by: HelenB | Aug 4 2024 21:37 utc | 65

Since rank hypocrisy on food seems to be the flavour . I saw a local post relating to a lost puppy in my area. Dog was chased away from Muslim area and picked up by a expat who was asking for someone to adopt. A ghandi quote was spouted ” you can tell a nation by they way they treat their animals” and was reminded how in Indonesia it’s only the Christians and Bataks that BBQ dogs. Best be aware in Bali that food carts sell them.

Posted by: Hankster | Aug 4 2024 21:43 utc | 67

Id @ 47
Apparently not, good thing too, post more your an assit.
———
And speaking of assits is ‘sknitzal’ some kind of code word ? What am i missing here.
Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 4 2024 19:08 utc | 49
______
Honestly, you don’t have to pretend to be stupid.

Posted by: malenkov | Aug 4 2024 21:50 utc | 69

Hydatid not hydrated.
Posted by: Watcher | Aug 4 2024 21:44 utc | 68
‘Hydrated’ did have me a bit stumped. I guess you’re thinking along similar lines to me.
All too often, the keen powers of observation of many early peoples – being able to link effect to cause gets completely overlooked.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 22:08 utc | 71

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 21:52 utc | 70
I read years ago somewhere that pig flesh is so similar to human that our body recognizes it as a cannibal meal essentially, the result of which is a feeling of aggression and rising heat in the body.
Not sure about the former but have definitely noticed the latter. I rarely eat pork generally, and never during hot weather because it tends to make me flushed and sweaty – though, come to think of it, slow-cooked barbecued ribs seem to be an exception, maybe because of the length of time involved in its preparation. (And have yet to find a better breakfast combination than eggs and bacon!)

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 4 2024 22:21 utc | 73

So many typos in that last one. I’ll correct this one though – for every action there is a reaction

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 22:35 utc | 75

despair and outrage from Tiberius in the UK
and he speaks there of Jeremy Corbyn who could have and should have been PM, but the zionists, the media, and The Establishment all conspired together against him, and laid all these antisemitic lies about him on the public etc etc…… And look what a shit show an absolute clown show they ended up with
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1820181110539628779
Tiberius @ecomarxi
Every single day I think about how we could have had a world-renowned peace activist and lifelong advocate of justice as PM right now, but instead we’ve had four lying PMs, two guilty of genocide; human shit still being pumped into our rivers; and racist mobs roaming our streets

Posted by: michaelj72 | Aug 4 2024 22:49 utc | 77

I read years ago somewhere that pig flesh is so similar to human that our body recognizes it as a cannibal meal essentially, the result of which is a feeling of aggression and rising heat in the body.
Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 4 2024 22:21 utc | 73
Pork as a mainstay or big part of China’s protein. Very little in the way of grazing animals – lamb beef ect. Chinese society is about the furthest you can get from an aggressive society such as will be found in many western countries.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 23:00 utc | 79

Nice to have Peter sharing some insights about food and cooking – I have long wondered if you bear the gift, and the answer seems to be a resounding yes. That said, I enjoy others’ contributions, too. Cuisine is as a good topic as any while waiting for Iranian missile strikes, I guess. We’ll be back to disputing God soon enough. /s

Posted by: persiflo | Aug 4 2024 23:32 utc | 81

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 4 2024 14:23 utc | 6
Looks like they’re swingin pretty low for Olympic ‘pole’ vaulters of late.
https://x.com/Glodyswotcher/status/1819673693897031898
Apparently the dude’s package cost him a medal.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Aug 4 2024 23:58 utc | 83

And speaking of chicken: Chickens in Mexico are of the Chinese, not European, variety, part of the evidence for how they ‘discovered’ the Americas long before the Europeans. – by several centuries.
My personal pet theory, or rather suspicion, is that the Mexican taste for spicy foods came from the Chinese immigrants. The rest of South America doesn’t share this proclivity.
@Peter: the Chinese have long martial traditions going back millennia. Yes, they have often been peaceful but not always. Basically, they have been civilized longer than most other peoples and large populations learn how to exist in peace otherwise life becomes unworkable. The Chinese figured that out long ago, but even during Genghis’ time, I believe, they still had considerable standing armies and military culture. They were not all pacifists and there were many periods in their history with wars.
There is also a quantity issue: most Chinese meals featuring meat also include at least that amount in vegetables whereas in the West the vegetable portion is often considerably less than the meat. What’s that dish in Strasbourg they sit down to eat? Like a huge leg of pork with a little sauerkraut on the side? You see lots of red-faced sweaty burger-types labouring over that dish!

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 5 2024 0:03 utc | 85

persiflo | Aug 4 2024 23:32 utc | 81
I guess cuisine has a way of cutting through the bullshit. For me, on my couple of short visits, Certainly the people, but also the food in a way opened my eyes to a larger world. My time with aboriginal Australia preceded that. A window to the past. A window to a much larger world.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 5 2024 0:27 utc | 87

Of interest regarding pork taboo, Marvin Harris Cows, Pigs, Wars and Witches. Harris was an anthropologist who studied foods and culture. He wrote a book Good To Eat also of interest.
A link to an ACP activist: https://x.com/MidwesternMarx/status/1820188974700511289
And on the history of imperialism, this Adam Tooze Chartbook provides information: https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/chartbook-304-hegemonic-malfunction?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=192845&post_id=147338015&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=false&r=2rylou&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Posted by: steven t johnson | Aug 5 2024 0:43 utc | 89

Scorpion
What was your impression of China when you were there. We seem to have gained different impressions.

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 5 2024 0:50 utc | 91

William Gruff @ 55:
I believe the practice you are indirectly referring to is known as Metzitzah B’peh (direct oral suctioning). The practice is known to transmit herpes to babies.
Baby Dies of Herpes in Ritual Circumcision By Orthodox Jews
Scorpion @ 73:
Huevos rancheros and shakshuka are better alternatives to bacon and eggs.
If you want another reason to give up bacon and eggs, you can read how notorious PR maestro Edward Bernays persuaded Americans to eat bacon and eggs through using Freudian psychology to manipulate people’s fears and concerns about their health, and helped his client sell more bacon.
Edward Bernays and Why We Eat Bacon for Breakfast
That’s the same Edward Bernays whose major client in the 1950s was the United Fruit Company, which lobbied the US government to overthrow Jacobo Arbenz’s socialist-oriented government in Guatemala and to install an authoritarian government instead.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Aug 5 2024 1:21 utc | 93

@ Scorpion | Aug 5 2024 1:17 utc | 92
Orban:
“Let us imagine that the worldview of us Central Europeans is based on nation states. Meanwhile the West thinks that nation states no longer exist; this is unimaginable to us, but all the same this is what it thinks.”
Orban makes no sense. European nation states have been replaced by the European Union in 1993. The Union is of course illegal if the United Nations has any value. From the UN Charter: “The Organization is based on the principle of the sovereign equality of all its Members.” That does no apply in Europe.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Aug 5 2024 1:39 utc | 95

Posted by: Peter AU1 | Aug 5 2024 0:50 utc | 91
Scorpion
What was your impression of China when you were there. We seem to have gained different impressions.

Well, we were casually discussing pork and such, which has been eaten by humans for millennia, so am not sure how we can shoehorn it into 20th century only China (!) but since you asked:
I spent a month or so in a farmhouse complex outside of Yangshuo studying Chen-style Tai Chi in a school. The buildings were all brick with ceramic roofs pretty much the same as what you find in Italy and France. The buildings were all made before modern times but were very ordinary. The food was basic and consisted of pretty much the same every meal: a large selection of meats and vegetables along with a basic soup made from bone stock. One thing I noticed is that no matter how much I ate, I never felt bloated or stuffed.
My main impression there, to my surprise, was how spacious the country felt. This was from the first hour when I arrived at the Beijing airport and was delighted by the calm efficiency of how one found a taxi. I barely had to wait a minute and there were literally thousands of us exiting at the same time. The Chinese sure do know how to scale. Many Western airports it’s a chaotic experience; here everything was smoothly organized, crisp and relaxed. I only spent a night in Beijing before continuing my journey to the South but the atmosphere felt open, not intense like London or NYC for example. Then generally in Yangshuo, a small town set up as a bridge between China and the West mainly used by Chinese to get a feel for the West before actually going (I was told), I was impressed with a sense of freedom, that my mind wasn’t being controlled by the State which I often feel in the West. That said, this could have been because I don’t speak a word of Chinese and have no history there apart from having studied a little Chinese philosophy, medicine and martial arts the past few decades; so maybe this sense of freedom came from being disconnected. However, I don’t think so. I think it’s a basic feature of Chinese culture. That said, I doubt it felt that way during the Cultural Revolution or the Civil War so like all nations they go through ups and downs (which is why I think generalizing that they are always peaceful is a tad romantic).
In any case, I was not expecting a country of 1.4 billion to feel that way; I expected something more controlled and controlling. This not for ideological reasons, just logistical – numbers. I know there is a lot of negative press about China in the Western Press but since I don’t read that stuff wasn’t influenced by it. (Same viz Russia and Iran for that matter.)
I think overall I was impressed by how ordinary, relaxed and sane China felt. If it wasn’t for the fact that travel on my sort of budget has become such an unpleasant ordeal, I would gladly return often and indeed considered retiring there but decided against – too far away from home culture. As it is, I don’t expect to visit again. On my bucket list is 3-6 months in Japan, spending part of the time in country village. I like Akira Kurosawa’s Dreams (his favourite), especially the last scene about death and celebration in a traditional country village setting.
(Apologies: went over my word limit but too ‘flu’d out’ to try to cut it back to size.)

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 5 2024 1:42 utc | 97

“They do wish to give that up. I totally get it. Perhaps they should leave the EU and join the multipolarists.”
should read:
“They do NOT wish to give that up. I totally get it. Perhaps they should leave the EU and join the multipolarists.”

Posted by: Scorpion | Aug 5 2024 1:51 utc | 99